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[@1205shinky]

Recently purchased a Kia Niro. So far we have 150 miles averaging 51 MPG. Not bad! Lots of cargo space, good looks, great gas mileage.

[@lucyalexander3607]

I have the touring and I average about 39MPG and I've been getting about 480 to 490 miles to the tank here in the NOVA area. It's been a little cold here so I think that could be affecting the MPG. The engine starts over the battery when it's cold and when the car is warmed up the EV mode kicks in. When it's warmer, the EV mode automatically kicks in. I'll take it over the 300 miles to the tank I was getting with my 2009 Ford Escape Limited. I LOVE this hybrid!

[@schmo7777]

mogelijk1 so in Canada at -20--30 that's 10 mpg lower? seems about right. went from 35 mpg to 25

[@douglassalley9117]

There"s a video on you tube of a man in the NE shows how to keep the engine/motor warm, during the cold days/nights in that part of the country doing a DIY of covering part of the front grill. It keeps cold air out. Less cold air the better the millage.

[@christopherwgee]

i've had my LX for about a month now and driving from Thousand Oaks to Burbank( a mix of highway and local with traffic) i'm getting about 50mpg over four fill-ups so far. lowest is 49, highest is 52. ride is pleasant, there is some sensitivity to cross-winds.

[@TheChrismaster619]

christopherwgee how many times you fill up a month?

[@tofuyam7361]

I moved to LA from a small city w a gas hungry sports car. I have no idea after paying so much for gas why any local non-rich person not buy a efficent hybrid

[@BetoTheButcher]

Thanks for this post. I live in the West San Fernando Valley and will be commuting to Norwalk daily, im wondering how your Kia Niro is doing 3 years after this post. Also if I may, how tall are you? Im 5'11 and wondering if its ok for my height and a few extra lbs. Im really considering one.

[@nickeskridge_]

Recently bought the LX trim, best car I have invested in by far. I have averaged 49 mpg thus far with 1500 miles on it. Our household now has a Nissan Leaf and a Niro and I must say, our pockets are INSANELY happy.

[@mbarneskar]

Hey, pocket still happy? ☺️

[@kmo1200]

As always, Well done Dave! Kia did a great job on this thing

[@Xsoul1000]

I was sad for a second: under the impression you were ending your blogs. Thanks Dave.

[@Phrancis5]

Everyone reviews the nicer looking, but pricey lower mpg Touring version. I'm interested in the 52mpg "FE" version and I would think many others who are looking to buy a hybrid would be too.

[@TheGerm24]

I think they review the version given to them by Kia. I think I saw a Consumer Reports quick review yesterday that used a lower trim. Try searching for that.

[@Phrancis5]

Thanks. Yeah I saw the CR one, but Im trying to get a wider consensus from multiple reviewers.

[@AlmirOsmanovic]

from what I understand the FE... the only difference is the tires, that's why the fuel efficiency difference. No real diff in weight or engine (other than the available options of course)

[@Phrancis5]

Yeah smaller cheaper looking rims and skinny low rolling resistance tire - also no roof rails and lighter because less luxury powered stuff. The FE was supposedly quicker to 60 because of the weight but I'm concerned with the handling with those tires, since I live in a rainy place. I'm probably goin for the new Impreza Sport hatch, but 52mpg is hard to ignore for the same general size and price.

[@Phrancis5]

ugh - that's what I would be afraid of. Do you have a link to that review?

[@GaryKetchum808]

If you can fit a bicycle in a vehicle, then you can pretty much know that it has some good cargo space.

[@everymandriver]

Teighlour Swyftte true that!

[@manthony225]

I hate how the gas gauge curves upward toward E and downward toward F. Nitpicking, I know but it's not logical.

[@Mayhellitac]

Hey Dave, now that we are in 2019 how's the Niro performing? I know for the 2017 models there were some recalls. Would you recommend buying a used model of this car, under 50k miles? What's the life expectancy of the Electric motor? Thanks :)

[@AlmirOsmanovic]

if you go under options, you can actually turn off the driver comfort option,which would not move the seat back when the car is off.

[@frameshade]

Kia: We include a proper AC socket to the car. Everyman: Pff, would have been nice to see a usb here.

[@carfanfan]

Its still a nice car. I like Kia's styling and upmarket feel. Even been looking at one for the shortlist of SUV's for my next car.

[@carfanfan]

Currently, Range Rover Evoque, Kia Sportage, Audi Q2, Jeep Renegade. That's the shortlist. The Hyundai didn't make it due to several factors, where the Kia shines - mainly looks.

[@AlmirOsmanovic]

We were looking at almost the same as yours (left RR & Jeep off the list because of reliability). Hyundai didn't make it because of interior feel, Audi for the price.. We are currently 3 months into a 2017 Sorento ownership. For 38k we got all the options that a 60K+ Audi had...so KIA was our go to, and will probably be again later this year when our VW Rabbit gets replaced.

[@carfanfan]

Almir Osmanović I tend to agree with you. After doing more research this week, just about everything on the premium cars is optional. I'm surprised they come standard with a steering wheel. Now the shortlist is Evoque (cos it doesn't have that terrible air suspension that keeps failing), Mazda CX3, Kia Sportage (Sorento is beautiful, but too big for me) and Kia Soul (I like that new 201 bph one) and both Kia's are fully loaded. You made good choice with your Sorento.

[@AlmirOsmanovic]

We were leaning towards the Sportage SXT, but once we figured out that we'll need a family crossover, we went up to the Sorento. Fully loaded for 31k... you can't go wrong..

[@ravenjames3873]

it is nice

[@igorflorez4838]

I´d just buy one today thanks to you. Monday I´ll be driving.

[@680ecks]

Im getting 36-38 in my 05 prius its cold and i live on a mountain. It is also much uglier and smaller inside. I like the look although in person it looks more like a small wagon than suv.seems like a good value at mid 20s. Im going to look at one to see how i fit.

[@nicksmith1363]

Thanks for tossing the bike in! I am looking at new cars and fitting my bike is a big deal. This car is on the list.

[@jeffmorse645]

Great review - thanks Dave. Will absolutely put this on my shopping list. I would never consider a Prius, but this looks like a normal, handsome hatchback.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

agreed. I'm surprised it's not more popular. Kia needs to market it better.

[@sj892]

I own a 2016 Prius Two. I get about 61.5 mpg average commuting 80 miles a day on I-5 in stop & go traffic and 80mph sprints in the PNW. We have lots of hills here and cold/rainy weather. I expected better fuel economy from the Hyundai/kia "Prius killer". The Niro definitely looks better that's for sure. I do like my Prius interior better though.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

thanks for the info. for your next car are you considering the Kia?

[@dougn2350]

This is a super smart vehicle for Kia/Hyundai to put in the market. Along with the sister vehicle Ioniq, its a perfect Prius challenger but without the GeeWiz appearance. I would definately buy one of these.

[@bcwest619]

You get a lot more responsiveness from the torque if you put it in sport mode. The standard Eco mode is designed to ease in for efficiency, while the Sport mode is programmed to jump that high torque electric motor right in.

[@acb5531]

I LOVE this car. Just leased the EX with the sunroof and technology package. The gas mileage is insane and the comfort top notch. LOVE all the features that it has as well. WELL DONE KIA!!

[@JamesVanAlstine]

As usual, a great video. Thanks for posting.

[@maeguk1]

I bough the top trim, which is called Business Luxury in our country and the quality is pretty damn amazing. The technology stuff into the car is just impressive. Noticed today while backing up that if you press any of the mirror buttons then both mirrors will tilt fully down to further aid the parking. Awesome!

[@dougn2350]

Maeguk ... what's your fuel economy?

[@maeguk1]

D N .... in autumn time when the temperature was still around 10 Celsius in town I usually got 5.1 liters. Did a 500 km trip when visiting relatives in December, when temperature was around 2-3°C got 4,1. These are all calculated figures. Of course this requires that your foot is not rock heavy. There is no engine brake in the traditional sense, when you release the gas pedal the car will roll for a massive distance while recharging the batteries. If you read the traffic well then this saves you a significant amount of fuel.

[@twinklesunrise]

got worried at 2:49 bc of where your hand was when closing the door!! love all your reviews they're the perfect balance between thorough and concise. :)

[@jeffreysegal2065]

I had a Lincoln that had an exit seat that crushed passengers. It could be turned off in settings. Kia really does the upscale features, tho.

[@sportsMike87]

actual looks pretty good for a hydride

[@ikephipps2696]

oh I love the Niro also, don't see how anyone can pick the Prius over this

[@justgivemethetruth]

maybe because when Toyota says the mileage is over 50 it really is. My GF has a Prius and the mileage is between 45 and 50 consistently.

[@ravenjames3873]

me neither

[@nofurtherwest3474]

Kia needs to educate consumer more on this. I didn't even know this existed until recently from my own research. The Prius is engrained into the mainstream minds as the only hyrbrid around.

[@BTC909]

Avoid the Touring trim if you want better MPG's.

[@JD-yx7be]

Ivan Vojt you would never notice maybe $5 a month

[@JoeCnNd]

Sounds like 8 grand more and 5 dollars a month.

[@ravenjames3873]

Ivan Vojt: i don't know what it is about Hyundai and Kia. first it was Hyundai, now it's Kia that's off about there mpg number. that being said, 36 mpg for the fully loaded version of the Niro is still better than any crossover with a naturally aspirated engine. plus if you wanted to get close to 30 mpg with a rav4 or crv you have to buy a lower trim level, like the SE in the RAV4 or the LX in the CRV. not only that but it has to be the front wheel version, but most families buy the AWD version for a better ride and better traction. so basically if you skip the loaded version of the Niro and step down to the LX you could get close to 40 mpg. i had a feeling that when Kia advertised the car, i knew it was gonna be off of the 45mpg number. it's interesting that my Volkswagon Jetta TDI gets close to 40 mpg and that's with a diesel engine, and i barely drive that car on the highway i mostly use it in the city, and in the city i get about 33 in the city. on the highway i can get up to 45 if im driving conservatively, but most of the time it's 43. in mixed driving i get 39 mpg combined.

[@IEZ69]

Raven James I'm getting 40 -42 mixed driving in my touring launch edition

[@thelordcares]

i get 51 mpg in my touring

[@mrnobody4662]

I'M excited to watch your video of that grand Cherokee

[@DiwaGalvez]

Mr Nobody me too! Do a, "my car review" Dave!

[@ClarkS963]

Looking at this for my next car. Great to know my Felt will fit in the back! You should test the tri bike fit in all of your reviews!

[@InvestBetter.]

The Mets are beating some Cardinal ass! It's only 12-1 in the 3rd.....

[@doreenmarzolf4753]

Nissan TitanWarrior K

[@gjm8220]

Leased a Niro a week ago, we love it,

[@bradhaines3142]

lease?! so youre paying for it, then handing it back? and you like that idea?

[@adastraperaspera99]

Brad Haines, its a good idea for people who like having a new car or brand every two to three years. Verses keeping a car for more like 8 years, which is average for most people.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

I'm thinking of leasing one when my leased Honda CR-V expires this year. I want either an EV or hybrid but I need some cargo space. This looks like a very good option for the money. Impressive

[@mrmaramind]

Your reviews are always fantastic. How were the driving dynamics? Want to mention about the 36 mpg. I believe you live up in altitude. Wouldn't that lower the mpg?

[@TheJackEbrown]

the easy access seat on/off mode is in the vehicle settings in the dash screen. I use mine on my optima on and off at times. depending on how hard it is to get out of the car!LOL

[@Barobran92]

You can turn off the auto sliding driver seat, my parents did in their Santa Fe.

[@parsley0120]

Barobran92 It's in the settings on the info screen in between the gauges. I can shut it off on my '16 Forte5 SX.

[@cadsux]

Hershey seems to like the Niro, what about Melissa?

[@RyanDoonan]

I have had my 2019 Kia Niro EX premium a week now I traded my sonic for my Niro and I love it so much

[@kyleskitco7235]

Ryan Doonan Nice! I’m very interested too in getting one of these. Trying to decide the color...

[@michaelanderson8514]

very well done review i just subscribed

[@everymandriver]

Michael Anderson thanks a ton!

[@johnennis7349]

Dave love your show however most folks can not afford top of line models. Please review lower trim lines cost less and possibly explain which options they can purchase and which ones they can not . thanks again .

[@everymandriver]

john ennis I wish it was that easy but I don't choose the vehicles and I'm lucky enough to get these in the first place. Sometimes it's good to know all the options aso you can choose a less expensive version if you're interested.

[@johnennis7349]

Thanks for your reply if i may question what are you hearing about the reliability of the civic, i believe CR and edmunds both say below average .

[@willvaldez2801]

I just bought a 2017 Kia Niro Hybrid and I love it

[@martinmartin5904]

11:26 '' pretty big bike .. ? I doubt that my custom Marinoni ( 65cm ) could do the same without removing the seat post and the front wheel . My driver seat on any car I purchase is always modified too with rearward custom bracket .

[@Corrocon]

I've driven my just over 600 miles and im averaging just under 50mpg's mixed driving. Mine is the LX version.

[@BetoTheButcher]

Android Auto/Apple Carplay is a must for me in my next vehicle. Do the older models like 2018 and 2019 come with it? Thanks.

[@NoteAndroid]

Had both Prius and Prius V, and I'm looking forward for my 3rd hybrid. Niro maybe the next. But again, MPG is always on my mind, oh no not because the money saving. It's the technology that fascinates me on how much higher MPG can a regular consumer can get these days on a mass market offered vehicle. (Did somebody said Tesla~? No I can't afford that~! Tesla is not mass market "yet". I'm waiting for T3) ) My 2008 Prius=37-39ish MPH on a good day and 2013 Prius V 33-35ish MPG on a great day. Niro looks a bit smaller than Prius V (not the 5th package, it's the "Veee" for Versatile station wagon). But the good thing is Niro is a bit taller, and I can see further forward, which I like especially I live in one of the most aggressive and dangerous driving metro.

[@ratukamina]

I too am in the market for a hybrid and really wanted something like the niro or the now discontinued Prius v. The only thing preventing me from getting the niro is the DST that transmission design is notorious for having issues especially in European cars and thats where toyota's eCVT is super reliable and efficient. I might have to wait for next gen Rav4 hybrid.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

I'm looking around and want a Tesla, but even the M3, which just came out at the $35k range, is still very expensive, and I want either a hatchback or SUV for the cargo. The M3 with some basic mods (paint for ex) ends up close to $40k. The Kia Niro is $23k or so. So it's a big difference.

[@azera55555]

Fantastic car!

[@Bawdale]

I understand 1 Imperial (UK) gallon is equal to 1.2 US gallons. Is the KIA in this article use US gallons in the USA and UK gallons in the UK?

[@Flyingbikes748]

Hey Dave, will you be getting your hands on the new 2017 Mazda CX-5 anytime soon?

[@LADJROBLEE]

0-60 IN JUST 12 SECONDS. YIPPEEEE.

[@joshuar4535]

Motor Trend did 0-60 in 8.7 seconds.

[@RandallChase1]

Does it have a 360 camera view like the Cadenza or the Sedona? Or the auto hold like the Cadenza and the K900?

[@douglassalley9117]

Does the front seats sit higher then the ionoqic That's the biggest complaint my wife has. That's why she wants to take her Tucson when we take a road trip . Does the kona have the same spects.?

[@RALPHD57]

Lower MPG at 33F I lost apx the same in cold weather in my touring...

[@Briancollison]

I'm getting 66 mpg overall, and my last journey I got 67 mpg, same car a Kia Niro hybrid 2, new in 2020.

[@thetravelingkites]

Do the side mirrors automatically retract on the FE model too?

[@blkm4n11]

Perfect man and dog car for drives lol. Would definetly love that car.show link for canadians.

[@cantinerosvp]

Beautiful car... I have the 2015 Hybrid Kia Optima and I am also averaging the same mpg as you are. I was truley hoping to get what the sticker said as far as mpg goes considering I drive 132 miles round trip to and from work. Had the car for 1 year and 10 months and never had any issues, only worries on longevity of the hybrid battery. My cas is a lease so I'm still debating if I should get a new lease or just purchase what I am already leasing. 😞

[@goldenretriever6261]

The bike test sold me. Where do I get one?

[@radeonati5177]

Nice Dave.

[@johnlamphier]

do you have to plug it in to charge it

[@Pravda62]

I don't understand? Why is a last review? And why it is been returned? It was nothing bad was said about a car. Reasons?

[@adrianciobotaru9595]

what do you mean by goodbye ?? why goodbye??

[@alexiswinter7056]

Tell us how to fit in a spare tire.

[@chachee15]

so it charges itself while you drive?

[@boozer74]

OMG. I thought he was saying goodbye.

[@JazzTheDogOfWar]

Nice technology inside the car but to be honest the quality looks cheap, compared to a cx 5... Maybe I should go and see one in person.

[@Peizxcv]

No right side blind spot warning?

[@lammyxchops]

Review of the 2018 Kia Niro EX please!!!

[@Knuffy025]

I Have the Toring in the Same Colour

[@justgivemethetruth]

that is very low mileage ... could it be because you are in TX and it is hot and you are using the A/C a lot?

[@jakee.consig8788]

I don't think it's possible to trust a review posted by a guy who owns a (newer) Jeep Grand Cherokee :-)

[@everymandriver]

Jake E.Consig I like to think anything is possible :-)

[@turtle207]

Does it fit's the radiation norms???

[@runforit420]

I wish Kia would give us rain-sensing wipers on the Niro in North America! Come on, Kia!

[@dbdigital57]

Kia GT2 top end has it

[@SirGeneTX]

Did you say "Trash Control"????

[@juanrivas33]

I bought Kia niro plug in hybrid new 2019. I am at 124,000 miles mint kept up also hybrid system keeps popping up shut off and car restart car also will leave u and family on side of road DO NOT BUY

[@myanh6571]

cold temps

[@agaad22]

That mpg is disappointing, but maybe it's the combo of winter fuel and cold weather. Our local news had one for a week and they were exceeding the EPA numbers.

[@helvihautala9267]

Where is it built? I understand that Kia has a plant in Alabama.

[@banantwon]

Helvi Hautala nope (: Kia plant is in Georgia. I'm doing my 3rd internship there as an engineer. We make the Optima, Sorento, and the higher trim Santa Fe (5 passenger only). The Hyundai plant is in Alabama and they make the Sonata, Elantra, and lower trim Santa Fe's. More than likely, the Niro is built in South Korea. Hope that helps!

[@helvihautala9267]

Antwon Powell The Kia is in my price range. With the miles I do I would need parts that would come from the factory. Coming from a new plant might mean better quality. For example GM still uses the Lordstown plant, home of the Shovette and Vega. I also want to give work to US workers.

[@IrisMG]

I wonder how the February car was red, and this car is white?

[@arnewhouse]

i get over 50 touring model 2018 model

[@ikephipps2696]

wazzzzzzzzzup Dave, I just wanted to say that lol

[@jedidan045]

1.5L or 1.6L???

[@JD-yx7be]

Dan Claire 1.6l

[@sirot5561]

MELISSA MCCARTHY!!!!!

[@levieux]

Nice job, Dave. I have one too. Regarding the low mileage you show, it's one thing that intrigued me in this car. Everytime you fill the tank, the mileage is rset, to a low of almost 25 mpg, and then gradually goes up as you drive, si you might have been in that stage. I contacted the Kia dealer to find out how I could read my total mpg (i.e. since i purchased the car), irrespective of refills. that info is not available. I love this car, but there was another feature that was strange. in my previous cars, I would start the engine, and the music will by default pick up where I last left it, usually Meida music coming from my iPhone. In this Kia, the default is always Radio, which means that everytime I go into my car and start the engine, I have to bypass the Radio default and press the Media button, silly waste of time. I was thinking of maybe locking the Media button down with some tape, so as it becomes the default, but that would look nasty..

[@everymandriver]

Thank you for your taking the time to leave a comment - Dave

[@talesoftwobros]

The sucking of the teeth is quite distracting. Other than that, great video

[@gsxellence]

What's the name of your dog Dave :) Cute

[@2004cyrus]

gsxellence He said her name was Hershey

[@gsxellence]

sorry I missed that thanks for the catch JR :)

[@2004cyrus]

gsxellence she was a cutie for sure

[@yorkiem0m]

man, I like everything about this vehicle EXCEPT I drive 70 miles daily, when it 'says' 50mpg, I need 50, 35 is not cool. Sadly, I think I'll have to stick with Prius, reliably 50-50+/mpg

[@saillensdumay6261]

1.6 GDI motor.

[@robs426]

Nice Bike!!!

[@Truthhurts808]

What stupid review, no engine…

[@everymandriver]

What stupid comment, no brain...

[@xuimod]

This dude needs to drop the infomercial, salesman voice. It's very annoying. No one talks like that naturally.

[@ravenjames3873]

that's how he talks. if you don't like it, go watch something dipshit. Dave is a cool guy and he doesn't annoying people like you.

[@dougn2350]

Dave enunciates his words. He was a television anchor years ago but has retired from that. Now he does these car reviews because he's still interested in keeping up on media trends and he makes a few bucks from YT. And he likes cars.

[@TheChrismaster619]

don't be jealous my friend