Everyone on Reverb Wanted THIS Guitar... Here's How I Got It | TradeTuesday Ep 14

[@michaelancell6606]

You do know the Custom Shops were all made on the Komo 4 headed CNC mill with 4 auxiliary heads mounted on the 4 main heads. That was a brand new machine in November 93 that was brought to Nashville. Only 1 man ran that machine, the fretboards, and most of the necks from November 93 thru 94. That man was me. I was a CNC machinist and hired by Henry J at a Blues Show Gibson sponsored in Printers Alley in early November 93. It was a chance meeting. We sat next to each other in the balcony area. He heard me and my friend talking shop. He gave me his card and the rest is history. I programmed the machine and built all the original fixtures. Custom shop got credit for my attention to detail and truth be known all the guitars of that time period came off the machine within one hair width or .002 of an inch of each other. They were, in my opinion, the best guitars Gibson ever produced and I made 100,000 of them in that period. Later...

[@mccheezegrader7072]

Hook me up with one man lol but no really that's awesome and amazing seems like it would have been a cool job

[@gsxerwhite]

Do you have any of the guitars you machined or other "souvenirs"?

[@michaelancell6606]

@@gsxerwhite I have 2 LPs, a Dobro, and a BKE30 I built. Some of the first. I had an SG and a Nighthawk but they were stolen years ago by an ex GF...

[@gsxerwhite]

michael ancell damn that's awesome! except for the stolen ones. I've had drums stolen before, even my snare. It's crushing. I worked briefly for PRS back in the mid 90's. I was just a lowly neck sander, but my bench was right across from the custom inlay and a custom body guy so I got to see some really cool stuff created. As a drummer though, it was kind of hard to really love the job so I left because I figured some guitar player would appreciate the job way more than I and my band started gigging more.

[@michaelancell6606]

@@gsxerwhite did you work at the Stevensville plant on Kent Island? I went to HS there from 77-80. I moved away in 85. Just when the plant opened I think. I bought a Harley and decided to see the country for the next 5 years before I ended up in Tennessee...

[@tball5677]

Could you do a video on your personal "never sell" guitars?

[@ttdmcneal]

I know for a fact that the Old Glory LP that was gifted to Trogly by Jared James Nichols himself would definitely be in that video. Also if Trogly was able to get a hold on a Basalt Blue LP Deluxe and a LP Spotlight Special without monetary troubles you would certainly see those in the video as well.

[@qwertpoiuy430]

DJ North Korea I’m sure he has a couple of spotlight specials that he won’t sell

[@qwertpoiuy430]

Bobo Swagginz if I recall, he still has the one with the willie Nelson wear on the top. He always calls it his number one, I’ll be weird if he sold it

[@carmineredd1198]

he would sell his own mother

[@MrUltracoin]

Nice try burglar boii.

[@Trog]

Reverb Listing: reverb.com/item/29270104-video-1987-gibson-les-paul-prehistoric-reissue-gold-top?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly Trade Offers to: [e-mail]

[@14Maxmom]

I had no idea the early custom shops were so valuable. I have a cs Les Paul dated September 1, 1993.

[@wiseguy9202]

That thing is still beautiful regardless the repair.

[@monstrok]

The aged lacquer really compliments the gold top color! I remember seeing '80's gold tops new in stores and the color was closer to a brass Zildjian cymbal. But she's a hefty girl at 10+ pounds. Thanks for the find and the coverage!

[@andrewfrench9554]

I just bought a 2011 Les Paul Goldtop with P90’s from a gentlemen in Mexia, Texas about a month ago. It’s an incredible guitar. I’m not a massive Les Paul guy, but this one will definitely stay in my collection. Love it.

[@bipbipletucha]

Reminds me of Duane Allman's golftop. Love the character that it comes with!

[@craigusselman546]

That 1987 Goldtop is a cutie even with the headstock repair and wear take it home in a heartbeat.

[@danharris7685]

I was given a 1979 epiphone genesis for my 17th birthday in 1981, my friend leaned the guitar instead of returning it to the stand. The guitar fell moments later and broke the neck completely off. I had the neck glued back on and to this day it plays like it never happened , however the repair crack was noticable but smooth. So don't be afraid to buy the gold top.

[@avivpinto4013]

No shaws pickups after 1984!!!!!Tim Shaw said it himself in an interview.

[@markjamesmeli2520]

Bloody gorgeous guitar, you got there. There's something about the gold with the creamy binding and pick up rings that gives it a really classy look.

[@davidboughton3129]

Tough look on the glare in the Reverb photo. You can see it but especially when you know it's there. Sellers can be crafty with angles and light and claim they did provide a photo. I bought an old Ovation Magnum bass that came with a cracked head thru the G peg which, if you knew it was there, could be seen in the angled photo. His ad said "No cracks, No breaks, No monkey business". He tried to blame me but in the end allowed my return. I trust Reverb's backing more the Ebay gotta say. Bought a different one in awesome shape.

[@jzarfos]

First timer to your channel. Great guitar, great review, great concept, great playing, great video/audio quality, great editing... etc.

[@wesleyAlan9179]

Welcome brother! Trogg is really interesting and entertaining, and he really knows his stuff! I have been following him ,idk how long ..probably going on 3 years or so! Hope you enjoy these,they're really good!🤘

[@clutch1141]

I like old broken guitars. I have a "67 SG I got for 800 with a headstock repair. I've replaced pretty much everything and re-fretted it. it plays and sounds so good. I would never dream of modifying it if it wasn't repaired.

[@chrisgrabowski2678]

Hi Trogly, have you done or would you do a video on shipping combo amps? That would be great and informative to see. If that's not your forte, I understand. Thanks! - Chris G

[@toddflowers8052]

Hey man ! :-)

[@aboutthemetal8783]

My 74 Yr old uncle passed away and he left me his Gibson les Paul in its case, I didn't even know he still had it, I haven't seen it since I was about 6/7 and years old, There are photos of my uncle playing the guitar in 1972 and from what family have told me we think he had it from 1969, where do I go to get a genuine valuation (I don't trust the local music shops) I don't know much about guitars but I do know its worth a couple of thousand at least, as far as condition goes it's a 8/10 to my untrained eye.

[@nolanmacdougall1154]

If you email trog himself I’m sure he would hook you up I think his info is in the description

[@maziu27]

@@nolanmacdougall1154 never sell that. My dad sold his 70's telecaster and he regrets it everyday

[@Scrimbus_McBimbus]

Your playing on the demo sounded great

[@olsonsam4]

Hey Trog, you sound a little down. You feeling sick?

[@Spartanm333]

Sounds like a bad cold, time of year. Keep well mate.

[@Djarra]

Good players guitar. I can tell you exactly what happened to the top, it was a cheap D'Addario (as soon as you see D'Addario you know it going to be shite) A stand, one with out a neck cradle, and fell forward being caught by the bits sticking up in the stand. You used to see that a lot before people stopped using them.

[@brokeboypokemon7077]

You sound like you have a cold fam. Hope all is well

[@hkguitar1984]

Great Score Austin. Also great playing and a nice demo. Amazing you could start this trade series with nothing and end up with this Gem, congrats Sir.

[@b.rodclark7349]

Repaired headstocks would bug me as much as you've mentioned it!

[@corneliuscrewe8165]

There is a line of thought from some fairly knowledgeable luthiers that Les Pauls with a properly repaired headstock sound better after the repair.

[@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer]

Cornelius Crewe I don’t get why they go for less than non broken ones unless they’re much much weaker

[@corneliuscrewe8165]

I don’t know exactly why, but there has always been a stigma surrounding guitars that have had headstock repairs, which in many cases is ridiculous. A properly repaired headstock break should be stronger than any undamaged mahogany Gibson neck ever was. Part of it, i’m sure, stems from the collector’s market. A pristine example of anything almost always goes for more than one with wear/damage. Part of it stems from the guitars that have had really poorly repaired headstock breaks, and I’ve seen some doozies. However, I’ve seen some amazing repairs on guitars you would swear were ruined forever. It all depends on the skill of the repairman. Put it this way, would you say no to Jimmy Page’s Number 1? It’s headstock has definitely repaired.

[@b.rodclark7349]

Michael Schenker's Flying V comes to mind.

[@beefnacos6258]

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer lol because that's the way things work. If it has had major damage or repair it value drops... Would you pay full asking price for a used car that had flood damage? Or a cracked frame? No, you wouldn't.

[@barryengle12666]

omg..... I'm in love with this guitar. Gorgeous all the way. Repair or not, doesn't matter. There is quite a lot of documented proof that the repaired headstock Gibson actually sound so darn good, better than the guitar did prior to the break. This is an absolute dream of a guitar, at least for a professional player. If I had the money we'd be talking serious about it, but I'm one of those professional players therefore my cash flow is not as great as I'd like it. Props to you on acquiring this beauty

[@guitarzan73]

I wouldnt be able to sleep at night knowing there's a glued together,broken head stock guitar in my home.

[@spiderman0863]

I totally agree.

[@taylor-vl1re]

If that is a clean break you would normally just use titebond glue and clamp it. The glue will be stronger than the original wood.

[@michigangreen1915]

I would actually prefer to get one that has been repaired to save money. As long as it is a pro repair job. Even Rabea Massaad bought an old 70’s LP from Norman’s in LA that had a headstock repair.

[@clarkbabin9799]

The blacklight gives off a color that I've never seen but I think would look awsome in regular light

[@jamesblackledge1004]

Trogly your playing in this vid is great!

[@macmuggo5459]

You put it under black light and see a bloody splatter

[@natepiraccini2900]

Youre like the Mr. Rogers/bob ross of guitars. I can watch your videos and just be completley mesmerized by what your doing and saying next thing i know its 5 hours later and my day is gone....good day though haha

[@OtaconNachos]

Feel better Trogly!

[@wetwillyridgewood]

I was about to but that one! I clicked on the seller page and when I clicked back, it sold

[@ziggylayneable]

As soon as I saw that headstock I knew it was late 80s. But 10 lb 8 oz is a heavy as hell;!

[@adriyanmusic]

Great guitar bro , the very comfortable and the sound is special... Congratulations

[@clarkbabin9799]

Have you ever seen a Les Paul in same finish but a midnight blue from around 75 to about 81. If I remember right the neck was painted the same color. Cant remember if it were a limited, custom, studio or what model. Dont recal it having binding. Also what's the deal with the 335 337 and 339 series having green tuners?

[@Trog]

There is Bahama Blue in the early 80s. Flying Vs, LP Standards and Customs

[@brutus6328]

KILLER Gold Top!!! Anyone know what kind of price range we're talking to have an entire LP refinished....ie Heritage Cherry changed to Lemon....THANKS

[@jclev99]

1987 is vintage?! That means I'm officially vintage too... doubt my value is going up though

[@johnhenfrey5936]

Another great vlog, and once more I have learned some useful stuff.

[@jasona.shaffer6348]

Nice score Trog! Love the show!

[@memorylane7068]

Dan Erlewine states to remove the tuners for oiling, and the reinstall after the excess lubricant has been wiped away.

[@joethebassplayer]

I am looking for a ES-349 in that type of shape... Great videos, I am a bass player but I still like to learn and who doesn't love Les Pauls...?

[@yadakc]

A shop that puts a bridge on backwards, and a DIY headstock repair? I wouldn't pay more than $800 for any Gibson with a break like that unless it belonged to a famous guitarist, or was a rare guitar. Being a recent subscriber, I love your channel, but can't figure out how you've built such a collection, and know so much history, but not able to intonate a tune-o-matic bridge? Anyway, keep it up, I love seeing the guitars!

[@guitarhiker4449]

That gold top is still beautiful!! I have always wanted to own a pre historic! They came with the tim shaws correct? Bet it plays amazingly! Good luck with it!

[@nobodyspecial6881]

Could you do a video on the different headstock angles of Gibsons over the years if you haven't already, and your thoughts on them. Just curious. Have a good day.

[@yeahh8402]

17 degrees

[@nobodyspecial6881]

@@yeahh8402 I think they have had different angles over the years from time to time on different models. I know about the 17 degree, but I am not sure about any other angles they have used. Thanks for the reply though.

[@allthings1150]

Also they used 14 when they started making this body shape again after the SG shaped ones. Any LP that has that big heel where the head meets the neck on the back with the slightly larger headstock is 14.

[@nobodyspecial6881]

@@allthings1150 thanks for the reply.

[@31186dan]

Sounds good and has character 👍

[@triplesevensix291]

A shark guitar eh Trog? Yer gonna need a bigger boat! ;) And authentic too? Agnesi is gonna love you man! Haaa!

[@thesoulshakers]

How much do Tim Shaw pickups add to resale value vs. non-Tim Shaw pickups for 80s era LPs?

[@kcb9455]

Great review and great playing!

[@emcg.9655]

Hey trogly love your show, you are literally the gospel on gibson guitars. Have you ever seen a Neil Young sig reissue? They seem mega rare.

[@MrKaywsly]

Hey there, nice Les Paul. You got the Serial Number and year wrong. What you've got there is a 57 Gold Top reissue made in 2000 and it's the 202 Instrument of this type produced in 2000. Heeres what Gibson says. Gibson Custom 1952-1960 Les Paul, Explorer, Flying V, and Futura reissues (since late 1992): M YRRR or MYRRRR M is the model year being reissued Y is the production year RRR(R) indicates the guitar's place production for that year. NOTE: This number includes all models for a particular reissue year - so, for example, a 1958 Reissue serial number may include '58 Reissue LP Standard and '58 Explorer production. Example: 7 5123 is the 123rd 1957 reissue model produced in 2005.

[@Trog]

And this is why you can’t just go by serial number... you have to look at specs too. A 2000 would have a long neck tenon and not have this style logo. I am correct with 1987

[@MrKaywsly]

The Trogly's Guitar Show. Ok. Don’t get me wrong. No offence. I‘m not sure.I had a 1987 Gold Top. And there are many differences to yours. For example 6-8 Digit Serial Number, wrong Case, 30th Aniversary Inlay 12 Fret etc. Your Serialnumber didn‘t exists in 1987. But whatever. It doesn‘t matter at all. If it‘s a good sounding and playing Guitar it just doesn‘t matter. Have fun with it. Greets

[@Trog]

@@MrKaywsly 30th anniversary inlay on a goldtop was 1982. That was a limited run. It sounds like you're not familiar with prehistorics - these used ink stamped serial numbers that the "regular" guitars of the time did not. They ranked higher. I've documented many of these on my channel for your reference.

[@MrKaywsly]

Yep you are right. Ist was long ago but now that you‘ve mentioned it. It was a 1982 30th Anniversary. Cheers Kay

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Yes when are you gonna review the Mark Knopfler signature les paul ? ☺

[@Buddydegroot]

What does the black test show? You kind of run through it.. but i dont really understand :)

[@Trog]

an old video... but you'll get the idea kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXUhWiXnZ6pgdE

[@sugarkitty4777]

87 at $1250 would be great for a good guitar, even if with that big ding on the top. But a broken neck? That's its money. No bargain. I'd like to own it too, but wouldn't pay more than that for it. You got it because it wasn't really all that great.

[@allthings1150]

Sugar Kitty your not factoring in that it’s a 57 RI not just an 87 standard. He tells you what they are selling for without the repair (on the low end twice as much as he paid) so not too bad. It’s a 57 RI for $1300, look around and you will see what they’re going for.

[@mongonius]

I like the look gold tops. Old school. Thanks for posting. -Mongo

[@tavicotavio]

You dont need to sign your comments you know that right

[@Howlinblind]

Nice GoldTop

[@7387470]

How do I get a picture of a Mexican Fender stratocaster 50's surf green to you. Really would like to trade it for a Gibson Les Paul

[@aaronsilverio2636]

I was so close to buying this!

[@veergujral6517]

PLS DO A VIDEO SHOWING YOUR LES PAUL COLLECTION OR YOUR GUITAR COLLECTION AS A WHOLE!

[@emilehobo]

I think you may need to check the history of Gibson Les Pauls. I remember hearing something about the 80s and headstocks, so maybe it isn’t a repair. You can and should contact Gibson.

[@emilehobo]

I think I’m wrong. Or half-wrong half-right?

[@Trog]

It’s a repair.

[@emilehobo]

@@Trog Do you happen to know what they changed temporarily about the headstock during the 80s to change it back to before 80s style headstock after that? I heard something somewhere sometime and I think you’re a bit more knowledgeable.

[@manueliglesias1871]

Hey man, would you say 3,200 is a good deal for a 1993 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top, quite clean?

[@l.cressey6806]

Manuel Iglesias is it a standard?

[@manueliglesias1871]

@@l.cressey6806 It is. But the dealer upped the price to 5k

[@sassycat]

... authentically relic'd? 😏

[@remb9614]

How do so many guitars get broken?

[@erikflaspohler1279]

What amp/pedals are you using?

[@kidglove100]

The cracked neck means UPS was the shipping company

[@MindsetMastery75]

Please. What is this "long neck tenon" he speaks about all the time? I've never heard this before.

[@nickdryad]

Space Alien long neck-tenon is where the tenon joint extends further than usual into the body mortise. Pick up routing then ‘eats’ into the tenon. You can see A good example of this can be seen if you look at a Brian May red special neck join.

[@MindsetMastery75]

@@nickdryad Ahh yes. I don't have one but i now know what you mean by neck tenin. Thank you.

[@progessionsessions1791]

If you sell this guitar I will purchase ;). Diggin it. Thanks

[@visje1996]

Get better soon dude!

[@mourningleaves]

Great playing!

[@jamespollock11]

Gut jangly Trogluh.

[@electroKrunch]

Thanks for the vid, bud! Informative....

[@Lonewhitewolf1]

sounds great!!

[@chancegoondavis3986]

Bruh you should keep trading up to a '59 les paul like slash's or Jimmy page's

[@yaboy4028]

Great video man

[@trajtemberg]

Sounds sweet.

[@michaeljordan6008]

Sounds like it looks, beat

[@alabamahebrew]

Now call me silly but it doesn't make much sense to me to buy something, make a video about it then resell it on the same platform you bought it at and ask for $500 more than what you paid lol. But you know what you're doing Austin, no there is no sarcasm meant in that statement, you seem to really have a good business mind and obviously you feel comfortable doing it this way. Is it just me or does this one seem to be more yellow than gold? It's more along the lines of a lemon yellow than a gold top , to me anyway.

[@jamesthe-doctor8981]

Trogly: Do we ever click on the Make an Offer Button?? Troglodytes: NO, SENSEI !!! Trogly: The Make an Offer Button does not exist in this dojo, does it?? Troglodytes: NO, SENSEI !!! Trogly: Lowballing does not exist in this dojo, does it?? Troglodytes: NO, SENSEI !!! Trogly: Defeat does not exist in this EBay, does it?? Troglodytes: NO, SENSEI !!! Trogly: Prepare!! What do we study here?? Troglodytes: THE WAY OF THE SNIPE, SIR!!! Trogly: And what is that way? Troglodytes: BUY FIRST, BUY HARD, NO MERCY, SIR!!! Trogly: I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!! Troglodytes: BUY FIRST, BUY HARD, NO MERCY, SIR!!! Trogly: We do not train to be merciful here. Mercy is for the weak! Here, on EBay, in a bidding war, A man confronts you, he is the enemy!! An enemy deserves no mercy!!!

[@dylanzrim1011]

Doug Aldrich will likely buy it

[@dylanzrim1011]

Give it a black pick guard and his pickups. I’d buy the crap outta that if I was living in america

[@maxpuppy96]

some of those 80's Les Paul's were heavy, I have an 89 it's like a boat anchor.

[@sneifert1968]

Good job. Nice deal.

[@clarkbabin9799]

I'd like to see a video on reputable dealers and ones to stay away from.

[@im__sam]

Been watching for a few months now, just letting you know you've been measuring with the calipers wrong, you're getting a higher reading due to not using the 'sharpened edge'. Also you sound a bit off, hope all is well :)

[@Riverdeepnwide]

Measuring across concave surfaces with the wider "flats" of a caliper can cause an increasing read error proportional to the decrease in the radius of concavity. The top and bottom surfaces of a guitar neck being convex however present no difference in reading between wider or thinner caliper surfaces. The upper and lower planes of the neck being angled do require the user to be aware of the actively measuring caliper edge position but again no difference between wider and thinner surfaces. This is splitting hairs of course where I think Trogly's intention is to simply give us a pretty good idea of the neck size. Ahhhh good tools are a wonderful thing to work with.

[@strat0871]

Trog, maybe this one is older than you think..bargain !

[@BobABooey.]

If I ever sell a guitar on line, I'll gizz all over it before I ship it, what a black light surprise that will be for the buyer.

[@toddflowers8052]

I like it and would rock it for sure !

[@ludoludo4334]

Pooooor guitar she had a difficult life

[@tolvajakos]

Sounds like a guitar should. Awesome. If I had 1800USD, I would no longer have 1800USD...

[@aschule5684]

I could never pay that much money for a guitar with a fixed broken head stock regardless of the year.....

[@johnnyinterval]

Why do people give a crap about these guitars////?? drives me nuts, but nice video \

[@smokesgtp]

That would be a great player.

[@whoismichaelmoschos]

If I had the money I would buy this beauty, do a better repair and paint a stinger on the back of the headstock!

[@darrylcole5575]

Stingers look the best !!!

[@Dutcharmytent]

Great video have subscribed

[@jeffbeck6501]

It sounds decent.

[@jppagetoo]

10 1/2 pounds... makes my back ache just listening to it. At least it sounds great, sombody will play this one for sure.

[@revelry1969]

Seems to be sort of a lot of money for broken headstock

[@oldmanfunky4909]

I wouldn't want to own that guitar. Its been through the wringer. For that kind of money I'd have built a custom Warmouth.

[@TempoDrift1480]

Selling?

[@andrebenoit404]

Yikes its in rough condition

[@chrishenderson9130]

Hey

[@bipbipletucha]

Let's go

[@benasslick67]

Damn i want this guitar too bad i got way too many bills :(

[@Les537]

I wouldn't pay $200 for it, but what do I know.