Everyone Said I'd HATE A DCT Motorcycle...

[@spitescorner]

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[@bishopmabry2054]

My only concern is that lowering the barrier to entry on high performance bikes by adding DCT will enable those who literally do not know how to ride a motorcycle to start rolling down the road faster. Having to learn a clutch is a barrier that I think filters out the most low-effort would-be squids who will never get an endorsement

[@andres_pz]

@@bishopmabry2054 I'm not entirely sure it really applies here. Many modern bikes have quickshifters, so you don't really have to use the clutch, but it allows you to be quicker, and I don't see people complaining about qs's.

[@mindofmonster]

@@andres_pz Even with a quick shifter you still have to use the clutch to initially take off in first.

[@lstavenhagen]

I have a '21 africa twin DCT and my list of dont likes is far shorter than the list of likes. The main problem with the DCT is you can't disengage the engine from the driveline once it hooks up. That makes low speed maneuvers a bit of a lurch fest. You can't feather the clutch or just plain pull it in and coast to a stop, etc. I think that's the only thing I don't like about it. Everything else is a plus over a manual in my experience....

[@RedLine0069]

I own a DCT africa twin from 2020 , about the engine braking situation, one thing, there is a option to increase or decrease the engine braking and probably you have the less braking engine option, that is why you have the user 1 or user 2, you can select how much power, engine brake, wheelie control on the menu to suit your own taste.

[@eulogiomaldonado5698]

This bike is perfect for riders such as myself since I’m a left leg amputee.

[@noahpetroff9737]

I was thinking that the DCT is truly remarkable in terms of accessibility. It might not be for everyone but it serves an amazing purpose for a great number of people

[@SilverPaladin]

I guess a hand lever system to operate the kickstand?

[@waynebernitt2806]

So happy you can still enjoy the thrill that is motorcycling. Love and respect from Australia Bro

[@yuriabmxr]

Actually the only respectable use-case

[@some_guy441]

@@SilverPaladin I have an Airbag system that lowers the bike onto the ground or if you want the system can be linked up to a switch that lowers a center stand instead of the left side kickstand. it's pretty neat.

[@oldtimer7979]

I'm 71 and only got back into riding 3 years ago. I love the DCT on my Rebel 1100 with the African Twin engine. The bike is light, easy to handle, and in city traffic, the DCT is great. On the highway, cruising at the speed limit with cruise control for long rides is also a huge plus. Although I am only 5'7" I found I had to put on control extenders to stretch out a bit. I also have added a Puig windscreen which works really well at highway speeds. For additional comfort, I added an Airhawk inflatable cushion to the seat. To make a long story short, for senior riders like me, the DCT turns the bike into an "old man's scooter":-)

[@victorsturdivant4731]

I've owned a Africa DCT for awhile. Greatest road bike I've ridden for onroad/light offroad touring. Glad you finally tried one. Can't imagine a better "Adventure" touring bike and I've ridden most everything out there.

[@matthutson880]

I’m a “purist” love shifting. Wanted one of these. My riding buddy got the dct. Rode it and said I need manual. Then he had me borrow it for a weekend, showed me how to adjust settings for power, engine break exc. I was sold after that weekend. Over 13k miles later still love it ride it all over Colorado, ohv, highway. Great bikes. I am lucky enough to still have a grom and yz250x to shift. Don’t think I could do dct for an only bike but they are more capable than most riders and can be adjusted to most preferences.

[@jonlough3074]

Have you figured out a good setup to tackle wind noise? I love mine but am thinking selling it because I cherish my hearing. Crazy loud even with plugs and a shoei rf1400.

[@nogerboher5266]

Yeah but if you ever need to off-road (which if you do adventure runs you will need to) manual just allows you to have way more control over your bike. I would much prefer if they put a quickshift for manual models.

[@matthutson880]

@@nogerboher5266 I did the CO and WY BDRs no issues. Just put in manual mode. I had a lot of similar thoughts til I rode one. I ride it off road regularly. There’s a learning curve just like on any bike, but there’s no loss of control you can hold gears, go to neutral or use a controlled amount of rear brake under power to get the same effect of feathering the clutch. I would also make the point that using the paddle shifter in manual is fast and can be easier on difficult terrain. I’m not saying it’s better, just different and as with all bikes the rider is the limiting factor.

[@Alexanderpaal67]

Seems you are overthinking the brilliant DCT system. Just put it into Sport3 if You wanna Go full blast. Relax & enjoy the ride… The Power Of Dreams ❤

[@janeelp]

In my NC750, if I engage the DCT sport mode by holding down the drive button, the transmission holds revs much better and does downshift at the right times automatically. I found sport mode 2 to be perfect for aggressive canyon riding. Sport mode 3 would never go into 6th which I found a bit more aggressive than I needed.

[@bmp72]

agree, I think Spike was in normal D mode in the twisties at the 11 minute mark.

[@BLUECIVIC07]

On my nc750, I have P 4 EB 2 Trac 2 dct 4. I found it great for twisty roads. When I watch reviews on Honda dct and when reviewer carry on that it doesn’t engine brake or shift to early its a little disappointing because it’s a great system if you know how to set it up.

[@TacticalHamsterDance]

I had a similar problem on slow turns in S2 and to an extent, S3 as well. On an AT. It would hold 2nd gear even when it was clear it's not going to work, and then downshift while I was already leaning. If I had a manual and made a similar error, I'd let the clutch slip a bit instead but DCT doesn't like that.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

Looking to start on the NC750X DCT. Guy at the dealer calls it an "old man's bike" or a "glorified scooter". I don't care, for people who want a more casual experience or have some mobility issues in their left hand or foot - DCT is amazing. To each their own, DCTs make a ton of sense for a huge market.

[@AyaWetts]

A lot of people aren't very smart... they get some kind of identity out of being able to pull and push levers. Just smile and nod, and do what you want.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

@@AyaWetts yeah I just categorise it with guys who call it pointless to start on anything smaller than 1000cc. No point arguing, just do what makes sense to you.

[@captainjim605]

I would be looking for another dealer; someplace that understands what advantages technology can bring to the riding experience. Realistically, I don't find anything casual about riding my DCT equipped bike - it is every bit *involved* as any of the many manual transmission equipped bikes I've owned over the years. The NC750X DCT is a nice bike. Before getting that bike, I'd suggest you take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation new rider course - you will learn a lot about how to handle a bike and be safer as you start this riding journey.

[@multi21racing]

@@captainjim605 I'D second that. A dealer with that attitude doesn't really care in general and probably more specifically about this bike and doesn't even care about potentially insulting his customer. Don't give people iike that money.

[@vleessjuu]

Joke's on him: there's nothing wrong with scooters! If you want excitement, get a motorbike. If you want practicality, get a scooter. The fact that the NC750 gets called a scooter is simply a testament to its practicality.

[@HikerDave57]

I love the convenience of my 2019 Honda NC750X DCT. On twisty mountain roads I take over the decision making and shift with the pushbuttons so I get engine braking before corners instead of unwanted downshifts in the middle of corners. Sport 3 comes pretty close to what I want in the mountains though. In city traffic I’ll punch the downshift button for engine braking or positioning in traffic but mostly let the machine save energy with its early shifting in drive mode. I get about 75 mpg (US gallons) that way. Have taken one long tour and will do more. I would definitely get another DCT bike if it was the right one but I also ride a Harley Dyna Lowrider so I’m not adverse to shifting and don’t absolutely require the convenience. Just nice to have.

[@gordfreeborn286]

Why do guys who have never ridden a DCT do reviews- I have had 2 Goldwings with DCT’s have ridden everything from small dirt bikes to Harley’s and the DCT is so great on highways including twisties- you can override the auto scenario and down shift - up shift whenever you want or put it into full manual and you paddle shift at will - no different than what quickshifters are trying to accomplish. The only scenario I have no idea about the DCT’s application is on aggressive dirt riding, no clutch to slip in those certain situations. As well it does add weight which on a gravel road ok but not desirable on single track. The DCT is the future for most applications no doubt- unless you are set in your ways and want a manual transmission- clutch

[@ChadWinters]

Highways is where DCT (never having ridden one) seems less useful as you rarely downshift

[@connor3288]

Well now they have the Honda E Clutch in Europe, that will be something to watch. Only available on the 650's at the moment i believe though. Basically an auto clutch and quickshifter, many benefits of dct but you still use foot shifter

[@cubeover]

@@connor3288 that thing should judder the bike and make yours and pillion's helmets clank, like the "real thing" . Nah

[@ChadWinters]

I think this would be nice in city street light to street light traffic. I get annoyed at constantly running up and down the gears every block

[@spitescorner]

It's PERFECT for that

[@Hihellohihellogoodbye]

You can put it into sport, it'll hold the gears longer

[@garrettbrown3126]

As silly as it sounds, high power sport bikes are nice for street light to light traffic too, never have to leave first 😂

[@Jeffyinthehills]

Running through the gears as part of the fun

[@molino121]

Get a fucking moped? 🙄

[@prat8529]

I have a 2017 AT (DCT)….The way to get the most out of it in the twisties is to have it in “sport 111” but use the paddle shifters to override the computer… It’s simple really… works a treat and I have no problem keeping up with my mates… cheers Dude..

[@jimgordon3468]

I have 2 DCT. 2021 goldwing tour. 2023 rebel 1100. Greatest thing ever. It's so convenient and fun. And these bikes absolutely fly. I mean RIP, The young man in me raced Corvette, Maserati, Camaro and smoked them all. The goldwing is a rocket ship. Especially in sport mode. I mean full 125 hp non stop pulling. I will never go back to a regular clutch bike. Ps, I ride about 40,000 miles a year.

[@ghostontwowheels]

For my "fun" bike on the road, I'd opt for a traditional manual, but for commuting to work in stop and go traffic I would LOVE a DCT. That NC750X is amazing for that. I actually enjoyed the DCT in the twisties, I didn't have to worry about what gear, shifting in a turn, feathering the clutch... it was weird to get used to though, but ultimately this removes a big barrier of entry into motorcycling for some. And if it's not for you, that's fine, at least we got options! The only thing I hate about DCT is it causes all these gatekeeping types to come out and say it's not a real bike, or you're not a real motorcyclist if you don't learn how to shift, or shifting is the real experience, blah blah blah. I say we need the innovation to keep motorcycling relevant and attract new riders, or our kind will get fewer and fewer. More options is just better for everyone, so don't hate on anyone who likes something different. Props to Honda for continuing to provide innovation and options to us! Great video Spite.

[@ctrlaltowned5223]

Hey, I know you! 👀

[@firefighter1c57]

20 years ago, Ridley made an Automatic transmission motorcycle in Oklahoma. Called it the auto glide. Harley sued them out of business...

[@Smallbore2wheels]

I think about automatic transmissions every time I drive the fiesta st to the office lol Houston traffic is a nightmare

[@greatbigeye2506]

I’m on my second DCT bike, a Rebel 1100, it rips and although I enjoyed clutching and shifting bikes in the past I now prefer to not, it’s The Good Life especially now that my hand and wrist can not tolerate even a moderately heavy clutch pull. I did look into the Africa Twin but the Rebel ergonomics are closer to my liking even though they are bizarre but I’m working on that.

[@joshlambert1247]

I put 3 inch risers on my 1100T DCT, made a huge difference in ergonomics for me. I love the DCT as well. Small learning curve, as you mentioned, but such a payoff longterm.

[@doughoffman9463]

Many new bikes have "slipper assist" clutches which also have weaker clutch springs and so a noticeably lighter clutch lever pull. Much easier on the left hand and wrist.

[@greatbigeye2506]

@@joshlambert1247 I installed Rox 4”, helps a ton. Also got a Corbin seat. Next is forward foot controls or lowing the pegs an inch. Waiting on Madstad’s windshield.

[@greatbigeye2506]

@@doughoffman9463 Yes it definitely helps. I think I’m full auto for life now though.

[@Neketre]

Taller seat helps, I put on a Mustang seat and two gel pads on mine to give it 3-or-so inch lift over stock, and it feels way better. Risers seem to help, but it's a more involved process.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Looking good Spite! Can definitely see you’ve lost a substantial amount of weight. Much cheaper than shedding weight from your bike and healthier to boot.

[@ewganhoff]

I didn't hear you mention the various modes of the DCT. There are sport modes (plural) for getting down in the twisties.

[@getty6974]

Like you said. More choices more better. Motorcycl industry is dying allready without gatekeeping. If this would be the accessory that gets somebody into motorcycling so be it. More the merrier

[@wardo2503]

There's 4 different engine brake settings should probably try a more aggressive setting

[@veiledallegory]

I’m not sure you’re in the right mode because if you were there’s absolutely no way a manual can even come close to keeping up with the DCT. Watch some drag race videos and you’ll see. The Goldwing DCT runs off and leaves the manual in a drag race with both in sport mode! It’s like you didn’t even research the bike before getting on it. Engine braking is adjustable.

[@multi21racing]

To be fair, it's still a legit review, because not everybody wants to get nerdy about these things... or is capable of getting nerdy. So this is probably the experience these persons will have.

[@TimothyEllis-fv6ny]

It's brilliant, I have a 2016 w/DCT. And yes I ride is in heavy off-road, I'm not racing supercross or hard enduro. Lived in downtown Dallas not tap dancing the shifter was nice in traffic, have ridden it over 1000 miles in a day several times, again beauty, and now dual sporting in Michigan's Upper Peninsula perfect (okay I don't hit swamps in the spring melt or go ice racing). My other bikes (6) have manuals their great also. But, I've been riding over 50 years and its perfectly engineered for the new day and wracking up miles

[@joemamma9642]

i support anything to get more people on 2 wheels!

[@mikescombatgames]

I like that folks are developing technology. That’s not going to do anything except to help riding overall. (A rising tide raises all ships, after all.) That said, this seems like yet another excuse for people to pay extra money to say, “I’m not actually riding a scooter!” In the US we have weird hang ups about scooters. “I want more control,” folks say, and there’s a seemingly intentional inability for naked/adv/cruiser bikers to remember that there IS, in fact, a difference between mopeds and scooters. …but after processing superiority, folks will go out and prove their superiority by buying a fancy clutch like this, all the while pretending that a CVT on a scoot doesn’t also have a fancy clutch. We all ride the same wind, whether we’re members of the “fancy clutch club” or not. Just saying.

[@captainjim605]

Thanks for the chuckle, Mike. One of my bikes is a DCT equipped CTX - there have been two occasions since I've owned this bike that someone has said, "Like a big scooter." I have to laugh at their ignorance. I have been riding for 56 years, so, yes, I know how to use a clutch and manual transmission... but, for me, the DCT is a smart step up in the riding experience. And, for full disclosure, I also own a CVT equipped scooter. Over the years, I've owned over 30 bikes, including 9 Harleys, 4 Goldwings, 2 BMWs, and others; I don't see than any new bike purchase in the future would be a manual transmission... and that's not based on being a geezer (which I certainly am), but on understanding what DCT brings to the ride.

[@nephilymbass1]

Most common motorcycle injuries are foot and ankle injuries. Dct lets a lot of riders keep riding without having to switch to a cvt scooter or trike, or an electric. For daily commuting it also makes a lot of sense. Say you want to ride to work but like me you work long hours and are on your feet the entire time. Dct means you can ride it kind of like a scooter mainly using your hands. As you really don’t need the rear brake if you are taking it easy.

[@JohnnoandGuyTheDirectors]

S1 or S2 is the way to go. Let the bike do its thing. 20000kms on mine.

[@MikeTheRebel]

Africa Wing, Gold Twin, etc. I like ‘em all

[@Skiamakhos]

OK well, you did yourself a disservice by not learning the controls before you got on the bike. I see you were looking for sport mode within the different presets, shifting through urban, gravel, etc, while in Drive mode. Sport mode is if you press the D button twice, three times, four times. There's 3 sport modes. Everyone seems to hate D which is Dullsville mode for ekeing out the gas. What you wanted was Sport 2 or 3, which you would have got. Little matter: you took charge and used it like a manual - though, there is a manual mode that won't shift out of the gear you select.

[@spitescorner]

I figured out the different modes. I tested S1-3, D, and full manual. It was nice but still not 100% my bag.

[@dylancrow7919]

0:07 I was only watching out of the corner of my eye. I swore it looked like he just picked that bike up with one arm.

[@spitescorner]

I wish I was that strong.

[@captainjim605]

I saw that, too... some of these KZbin folks like to squat down by the bike to use it as a background. Thanks for the laugh!

[@thomasdoe6768]

This video is a good example of a relatively big influencer with absolutely no idea what he is talking about and how this can influence the audience with false information. Engine brake is what you can adjust, if you happen to know what you are doing and read the manual for example or just pay attention during the explanation.

[@razorwired130]

Agreed - a lot of misinformation in this “review”

[@robertfrank886]

Completely different transmission type (CVT) on my 03 Silverwing (600 cc twin), but the only reason for this comment is that sometimes, a twist and go bike can make for a very nice ride (I have 2 Honda ST1100s which are regular manual bikes, so it’s nice to switch off between the 3 bikes). I call the Silverwing the 2 wheeled office chair. Very nice for a long cruise.

[@Fireball1800]

Put it in manual and shift with paddle just as u would with foot shifter... when in twisties.

[@jeffjohnon4223]

I think if you had a DCT for a year of riding you would find more benefits and shifting style changes, it is a whole new style of riding so it's unfamiliar as a regular clutch is to a new rider. Over time you would maximize the benefits of it and might be surprised at how much better it actually might be.

[@jimgordon3468]

I agree. The DCT is perfect.

[@nexoron5396]

Im sorry but the 24' AT adventure sports looks like a cow...

[@spitescorner]

The Suzuki Pstrom looks like a highlighter bionical 😉

[@jag1963]

I've come from a 2022 and 2023 Goldwing DCT tours and while DCT is clever and takes the work outta the job it also takes some fun out of it too. I recently bought a 2024 Africa Twin Adventure sport with a manual gearbox and the fun is back in motorcycling. More to do, more to focus on but also more engagment and more fun. I ride bikes for fun. Not because I need to get somewhere or to work. If you want fun go with a manual if you want a utilitarian manchine go with the DCT. Hondas DCT is very good and reliable.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Another type of automatic clutch systems are the recluse ones that differ from a DCT and are more like an eclutch. Huskvarna offers these as an example.

[@KurtisIsley]

I've had my my DCT Goldwing for a year and the only thing I miss about a manual transmission is extending the fingers of my left hand and resting them on the clutch lever while stopped at a red light. I rode my bike on the Tail of the Dragon and had no issues with the DCT. My Dragon run was fine and I had no problems at all.

[@SpydermanSam]

Hey Spite, thanks for the review! Being a fellow tall lad (I'm 6'4) how comfortable did you find the ride?

[@thehoelzels6316]

You can bolt on a shift lever and use it in manual or automatic to override the current gear. Some people are also putting a "hand operated" rear brake where the clutch lever usually sits

[@chrisstaats6915]

I have DCT in both a gold wing and AT. I love it. I also have many bikes without DCT. My preference is to use the sport 2 mode, manually down shift into corners to get the level of engine braking I want, and let the computer upshift. A very comfortable way to ride. When it is time to get sporty, or anything technical, just use manual mode.

[@brianhoward9217]

IDK if it was the odd camera on a stick angles but you looked particularly 'strained' or awkward in those twisty corners. Further, I think you need to play more with the various modes as I think you may have been in one that didn't match with you. The DCT bike is infinitely variable in its ability to adapt to a rider. You just need more time with the DCT and its modes. Are you usually a sports bike rider by default?

[@matt8530]

It has been mentioned in the comments already, but ride modes are more important with a DCT than they are with a manual. A lot of his complaints are based off presets and likely incorrect settings for what he's asking. I have a Rebel 1100 DCT and its a completely different bike depending on the settings. I use custom mode 2/3/3/1 for daily commuting and it's an easy-going cruiser with plenty of power for highway passing but not so snappy that's hard to ride very slowly in parking lots or heavy traffic (also gets 50mpg at this setting). Now change that to "Sport Mode" or 3/1/2/3 and the bike turns into a snappy (somewhat heavy) naked bike that is constantly trying to stay in the high-rev range. The two settings are so different that the bike doesn't even sound like the same bike between them... He spoke of it not engine braking when it wanted it to. This can be adjusted by changing the third setting or "EB" and the fourth setting or "D". Something like 3/1/3/3 would keep the RPM up and increase the engine braking to its most aggressive. There is no stock setting like this, you would need to use the custom setting.

[@NRALifeMbr]

I currently ride a 2019 Goldwing Tour DCT and it has been awesome. I just turned 100,000 miles on it this week. Maybe the Goldwing is programmed differently but my Sport mode is aggressive and very responsive. It holds gears both up and down to give you max acceleration and good engine braking. Tour Mode of course relaxes that a bit. I think if you had time to tune the User Modes more on the press bike you were riding, you would be amazed at how competent the system is. I'm 66 years old and have been riding since I was 14 so of course all my previous bikes have been manual transmissions. My adaptation to the new DCT from my previous Goldwing (288,000+ miles) took about 2 weeks and then I never thought about it again.

[@razorwired130]

Hmmm - you’re the only “reviewer” that has the opinion that the standard model is more “flickable” than the ATAS.

[@jackmaddox4960]

When I rode a DCT Honda for a couple days, I stayed mostly in manual mode, and loved it. It's great eliminating several semi-complex physical actions needed every few seconds (depending on where and how you're riding, of course), and made riding considerably more fun. Now, I'm not saying I would want DCT on EVERY bike I own, not at all; but as a technology, I really like it, and I'm really looking forward to Handa's new 'E'-Clutch. Kudos to Honda for daring to try something new..! Also, it's worth remembering, when DCT transmissions first showed up in cars, everybody said 'oh, it's just something for really hi-performance sports cars, a really specialized set-up, certainly not beyond that, it's practically Formula 1 technology!' Now, of course, the vast majority of cars that are automatic use DCT's, and there's a LOT more automatics being sold than manuals. So I say, best not to be too quick to judge, one day not too long from now motorcycles might be using DCT's at the same proportion as cars right now..!

[@cubeover]

I very much prefer CVT because it is stepless. On a 60hp engine like the BMW C650 it shines, AND allows you to tweak transmission (!) to your liking - something "real" bikers can't do. I have done maybe 300000 miles in my life, and only about 50000 on a 6-speed manuals, big engines like Triumph 1200 and Victory Freedom 106. These "big" bikes are darn slow and too much hassle to shift, especially in the mountain passes. Everybody gushing about good quickshifters, well mine's ideal...a CVT. I wrote to CFMOTO hoping they have the balls to release something that Victory would not - I mean the Vision 800 concept (a mean-looking CVT bike that solves many typical issues). Keep my fingers crossed, I would buy in a snap. I pity those who do not know how much freedom and unrelentless acceleration a proper CVT paired with a mid-sized para-twin 270 deg can do . Yamaha should also design and release MT-Max 700 based on their CP2... The future is exciting, once they figure out how to explain it to the market. Now it is like "symbian smartphone era" in the 00's before iPhone, I feel...Perhaps some innovations in CVT would further make the point. For now we have the genius of J.Costa.

[@Sheepleton]

I want an NC750X DCT just to ride to work. I think it'd be great when I'm all tired and beat up from a long day to just cruise home without shifting. I've driven over 1.5 million miles in manual transmission tractor trailers and let me tell you I love the new automatic trucks. I'm completely over shifting ANY gears...

[@sunrisejak2709]

I've got the NT1100 sport/tourer with DCT. It's a very competent and satisfying bike to well,,,,, sport tour. It's odd for me having a motorcycle that looks so far to be a "keeper". Before the NT1100 I had the XADV 750 with DCT. Needless to say I'll be a DCT fan as long as I'm on 2 wheels. It's that good.

[@northadventuressouth]

I had a Honda Talon UTV for a while, which utilizes the AT DTC trans / motor. HATED it. But, admittedly that might have been more related to the suspension being really stiff, and the traditional cable operated throttle. bouncing around on the trail caused the buggy to be real choppy, jerky, and gross. DCT searching for gears in automatic mode made it miserable. Can find used DCT ATs in my area EVERYWHERE. Was pretty telling IMO. Glad you did the ride Spite! I still think the base '16-19 AT w/ a built suspension would be a hard bike to beat--even today, but my Vstrom 800de is good'nuff! Go ride a Vstrom and tell me what you think Spite!

[@georgeh.5480]

what a great looking Africa Twin Gold Wing Edition, I really like it, I wonder if the local Gold Wing "Wing Ding" Group will let me attend the monthly meeting with my new Africa Twin Gold Wing Edition.

[@enixsound7620]

I have a Rebel 1100 DCT. My commute to work has a couple of slow speed tight turns (practically, U-turns). The DCT sometimes shifts mid turn and it's very unsettling. Honda should have a steering angle sensor on the frame's steering stem to prevent up-shifting after a certain angle (not lean angle) and less than a certain speed. i.e. >±30°@

[@richardcerritelli9657]

Why can't they make a super bike High horsepower high torque in a DCT automatic I hate standards but I want a Superbike automatic my dream bike Hayabusa or zx1400 in an automatic I'm sick and tired of people criticizing automatics in motorcycles I'm a powerlifter in the gym I'm too beat up to shift gears I want to relax with an automatic.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I think a DCT option suits certain motorcycles better than others. Goldwing is an excellent application for it. Rebel 1100 also a suitable place. Maybe the NC750X is also acceptable place. Africa Twin? Eh..

[@Tetz95]

I see DCT working for proper applications. Every day bikes like the NC750, Rebel 1100, and Goldwing are fine and would probably be nice (TBH, I've not tried it yet). But the Africa Twin? I intend to use mine in the dirt and have one of the apparently rare '22 non-DCT Adventure Sports, and I find the clutch to be a critical traction aid when off-roading. With that being said, I've heard that the traction control is good enough to set it where you want and pin the throttle and the bike will make it happen. Full disclosure: I'm not a fan of automatic transmissions in cars, either.

[@hughmac7423]

The Africa Twin is unfortunately a very ugly bike in my mind, like most ADV, they all look the same and just ugly. The exceptions are the Pan Am, new R1350GS and the new Himalayan.

[@neonsamurai1348]

Only thing I don't like about DCT (aside that I enjoy shifting gears, blipping/rev matching, etc., otherwise I may as well ride a large cc scooter), is that DCT is horrid at slow speed maneuvering, and they have a reputation of burning out the clutch if you practice a lot of slow speed exercises.

[@Skiamakhos]

Back brake makes the clutch disengage in slow speed manœuvers, see Bret Tkacs' video on it.

[@timlubbers2884]

Yup, my dct AT ran 78,000 miles when I sold it and there was absolutely no problems…

[@davidburns585]

Not many scooters can go 0-60 in under 5 seconds.

[@AyaWetts]

You have to learn how to do it... its only "horrid" as much as anyone thinks anything they don't know how to do is hard. I find it quite easy after a bit of practice. The clutch doesn't burn out easy... it does burn out when people like that one instructor used it for weeks on end for hours upon hours every day on a very heavy Goldwing. I've done many hours of slow speed practice on my Rebel with no issues, I just don't do it non stop for 6 hours straight... and ignore temp warning lights... people can burn out manual control clutches like that too.

[@VRRonny]

My nearest Honda dealer didn't have a Rebel 1100 to test without DCT, because 87% of these bikes bought in 2023 where DCT's... so I guess Honda have a marked for them here in Belgium.

[@jpc2528]

I have the AT 1000. When I was thinking about buying I took the DCT version out for a ride. Its great insofar as it worked really well. But and the big, but for me. Why do I want an automatic bike and the extra weight and complexity associated It's a solution to a problem I and most people here don't have. Maybe for a big tourer Its a good idea. And it's an option on the nx 750s and the Rebel 1100. Just my 10 cents worth on the subject.

[@torbenjensen6236]

You should do some home work before riding one and I disagree with about everything you said. I ride my AT 2017 DCT to the limit sometimes, manual in the mountains most of the time and I love it. Sports mode2 90% of the time, D drive on town. Boys and girls want a bike to cruise on LOL? Sorry dude I can't take you serious. Thumps down and never watch anything from you again, ever.

[@hughmac7423]

Interesting, but not for me, then I don't like automatics in cars either. I'm 61, been riding since I was a kid. I like changing gears, blipping the throttle on an aggressive down change, I won't even have a quick shifter on my bike. I only have one modern bike, a 2022 Pan Am, the army green version, and my other bike is an 1988 Low Rider Sport, hotted up these days and with a sidecar most of the time, I still love to ride it because it is very raw, no ABS or TCS. I love the Pan Am, I use it as a sports tourer and commuter in the city, I have taken it off road, but it is a bit heavy for off road.

[@sinnamortai]

I have a Rebel 1100 DCT. One thing I don't like about it is how jerky the throttle can be at low speeds. It's either closed, or trying to haul ass. Is the Africa Twin kinda the same? Wondering if it's a DCT thing, or just their tuning of the engine. Also, for the DCT being a thing in general, I think it's great for people who can't/don't want to have to manually shift. I've seen a few people get the Rebel 1100 because they have injuries or disabilities that would stop them from being able to easily ride a traditional bike. It's good to have as an option for people who want it. The E-Clutch is definitely gonna be interesting. I wanna test ride a bike that has it. I'm currently selling my bike so that I can get a manual bike and get that engagement from manually shifting again.

[@Geshmaal]

Let's keep breaking down barriers, Spite you need to try a scooter. What's the matter, afraid you'll like it?

[@spitescorner]

I know I'd love it. I'm gonna get one from AF1 for a video

[@Geshmaal]

​​@@spitescorner I went from a Royal Enfield Himalayan to a Honda ADV350 recently, it's pretty novel reducing your ccs and going from a bike to a scooter and ending up with a lighter, faster vehicle! You guys don't get the ADV350 sadly, a Yamaha Xmax 300 is similar but is missing the mild off-road features of the ADV. A video on a Vespa would be cool too since they're so iconic.

[@phantom_10792]

​@@spitescornerSo gonna get a Vespa SuperSport 300?

[@LowkeyAnnie]

I'd prefer a clutch, I like the control of my gears, bikes and cars. Good review, Spite.✌🏽 Annie, Australia 🇦🇺 🪃 😎

[@TacticalHamsterDance]

I rode AT with DCT and did have the same problem with it. As I was going to a turn, it would regularly be in too high of a gear and low RPM. Now if this happened with a manual, I'd put a lower gear before the turn or ride the clutch a bit until I start accelerating from the turn. DCT does not do either, instead option to put lower gear when you're already leaning, upsetting the bike and also changing the power of the engine due to different RPMs. Even in S2 it was not exactly eager to downshift, especially to 1st. Now maybe I shouldn't have taken it to a really technical road (

[@guerriosPG]

I think you missed one big audience : Europeans who commute in the city. We have a shit load of red lights here. And from my point of view this is why Honda created the DCT, for people who want to use their big bikes to commute. The Africa Twin with the right add ons could be the do it all bike. Sporty enough, off road, cruiser AND commuter thanks to DCT. DCT was always targeted for Japanese and European markets where people shift more often due to smaller busier streets and numerous red lights.

[@armored-clown]

If I was only riding on pavement I would get a DCT bike for sure no question. But I ride 90% off road trails, single track, and enduro. DCT definitely only belongs on pavement.

[@JamesExcell-InterJex]

DCT is JUST for traffic. Imo. Maybe off roading. But ecerything else. Nah.

[@Brad-RB]

Well done. I'm no expert on the Africa Twin, but I'm pretty sure the engine braking can be adjusted in one of the many menus.

[@jdjohnson4058]

When you say the word “Africa” Twin.. why does the word “Africa” sound broken up?, or “edited” after filming?

[@portapawl5396]

I dont even use the quickshifter I had. For me, part of the joys of riding is the manual transmission. Nothing against people who enjoy the DCT though.

[@AyaWetts]

I love the DCT... have many many miles on my Rebel 1100 DCT, but I don't like automatic mode really... I only ride in manual mode.

[@Masse24796]

I was looking for a used Africa Twin, a lot of the offerings here in germany are DCT, probably like 50% of them. I guess it's because there aren't as many offroad tracks around here and most of the AT buyers use them for long distance touring. Also, they are probably on the older side of the spectrum, so I guess thats why you would choose the DCT. Still want a non DCT, and it is a bit annoying if they only write DCT in the description of the bike, but not on the title of the listing 😂

[@flysurfer108]

Please learn the system before doing a review, the dct has a mode for every situation S1 S2 S3 full manual, D and can be manual over ride in any mode!

[@deandaniel6504]

I've only used the DCT on a short test ride. I didn't think I'd like it but I was wrong. In the twisties I would just switch to manual mode and shift using the paddle shifters to keep it from changing gears mid corner.

[@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII]

I think they should have programmable modes where for example custom sport mode where you can choose at what rpms it shifts up, same for all other modes That's the only way your bike would really feel like your bike imo. an adjustable delay should be there too, less delay if you want 'less control', more delay before auto shift kicks in if you wanna maybe manually shift up

[@haneymoto]

I’m old school. Give me a clutch and a shifter. Heck I don’t even use the QS on my MT-09SP.

[@whammo11224]

I'm really tired of reviewers that always talk about the paddles on the DCT bikes, like you have to justify riding one! The whole idea is NOT to have a clutch, the idea is to let the bike change the gears. If you need that much control, just get a regular bike!

[@jonlough3074]

Absolutely love my africa twin dct but i am thinking of selling it because of the wind noise. I always wear plugs and have a shoei rf1400 helmet. I ride with the winsdcreen off. That seems to be the quitest I have found. Please give suggestions on setups if you have them. Mind bendingly loud even with plugs which makes me think something else is going on.

[@cuvip2007]

Would be stoked when the Honda e-clutch system got into your hand. I'd love to see you do a video of that :D. People who's already tried it said it's very similar to DCT with the upside of being hell lot cheaper

[@darius0lupus]

your main complaints are resolved by the bike you just were unfortunately uninformed "doesnt know how sporty I want to ride" it learns from you sounds like it never had its DCT reset "how to doesnt engine brake when you normally would" there are user settings you want that will change how it rides.

[@corujariousa]

Thanks for the video! This is great engineering that makes some happy and some traditionalists less welcoming. It seems the overall reception was positive, since other manufacturers are following Honda's path. I just all manufacturers will be able to make it smaller and lighter.

[@kevindarkstar]

3:32 no they don't.... Or at least if you own an apple or Samsung but other than that you are stuffed, so while it's good it's very limited in which cases you can get 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@glennwr450]

I like using a clutch and changing gears with my foot- if I want a boring drive I’ll jump in my automatic ute- pickup if you prefer

[@mattc2817]

Hey! That's @Adventure Daily in the background. Yall should collaborate.

[@trilla_vortex2550]

Hey what do you actually think of the svartpilen 401 want to buy a 2024? Honest thoughts and opinions? 🐐🐐

[@Phuc_Socialist_You_Tube]

What bothers me most is the complexity. What are the long term maintenance costs? Will parts still be available 10+ years down the road? I can't imagine working on this transition because I can hardly grasp what all the components are supposed to do.

[@Love4boost]

If it gets more people on 2 wheels that’s good. I’d rather a maxi scooter. But then again I’ve had a M8 Softail sitting in the back of my garage for almost 3 years now that I’d rather have a maxi scooter than

[@ktkace]

Its uber ex to fix if the DCT motor overheats and dies... 900 euro part, good luck with resale value lol.

[@3DKiwi]

I'm riding a Honda NT1100 DCT. With regards to downshifting when riding twisties. I find you have to help the engine by changing down with the paddle shifter. That then gives plenty of engine braking.

[@Dadzone2000]

Think the dct takes some tuning into. In its stock mode it’s not hugely inspiring to a sporty rider. Also all Hondas power settings are back to front so 1 power bar is full power and 4 bars is the lowest power. It looks like you spent a lot of the video in low power on the highest engine braking. It’s so much better after you’ve lived with it a while. I like that you’ve ridden it and done a video I just wish you had more time or instruction on it to get the most out of it

[@Alekth85]

I cannot buy a manual car where i live anymore because of the obsession with words "easy" and "comfort". Screw easy. I dont want easy, i want fun.

[@sgtace]

9:13 if you drive it long enough it kind of learns your habits and switches gears faster, ie. I often drive in 6 gear on DCT in city, but if I want to overtake it knows to drop it instantly to 3rd and go full power

[@tjey379]

Just give me a good old fashioned clutch. I don't need to be having any debates with the machine I just want it to obey me.

[@Coldgecko]

Ok, I'm looking to take the bike from Miami to Ushuaia, Argentina... I have lots of experience in long world travel. Last trip was 17 countries, 6 months, Miami to Thailand through the shittiest places on earth.... I think this bike might be the one... One thing for sure, I am not looking to attack anything -- I want to live...

[@Coldgecko]

BTW: My current bikes are a R1250GSA and a F850GSA both battle proven around the world... But pigs. DCT is my next long hauler -- even if I go back to Kazakhstan and Laos or wherever -- No need for a clutch on dirt tracks (not single track -- would not trust it on that), gravel, shitty rocks and water. This gizmo will be just fine from my experience.

[@bigwu100]

You should try an autos history semi. They are differant but it's good and not so good. Give and take.

[@stevo8629]

Not sure your riding this bike right. I can sling this thing around, but I use countersteering instead of riding like I'm on a 500 cc machine

[@vonnied2094]

I have the Rebel 1100 dct. I'm spoiled now so I won't go back to straight manual.😅

[@micgp4844]

I own an NC 750 DCT for a couple of years. Nobody seems to know that there is an accessory to add a foot lever for shifting. For me that lever, even if its still electronic makes all the difference. In the city i go full DCT and when want a more sportier ride i go full manual shifting with my foot. Man i love that option. I think the AT also have the foot lever accessory and i don't understan why honda does not advertising it more. It was real diffucult for me to find a shop to buy it. And it is an original Honda part!. You can install it yourself in half an hour.

[@kenlindsey5196]

There is also the foot shifter option for the AT.

[@punchbuggyyellow7097]

Alan Kempster would probably loved a setup like this on his race bike. If you don't know the name just search it here on KZbin. While I have absolutely no interest in it personally, DCT's & anything else that makes the joy of motorcycling accessible to more people is OK by me.

[@marekzacek5400]

I think its awesome this option exists. The E-Clutch sounds like the next step in quickshifter technology. I would definitely get it if presented with that option.

[@stevie9361]

Think auto bikes will be great. More peoppe will be riding, and people with arthritis with an medical problems can ride