Everything Dragon Ball DIDN'T Show You!

All the moments Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, & Dragon Ball Super didn't show you!
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Time skips are a trope in Battle Shonen, but most only have one notable timeskip if any at all. However, the grandfather of modern Battle Shonen - Dragon Ball - has a ton of time skips and some very important events happen in them. Time Skips are in every series, from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z and even Dragon Ball Super. Not mention most arcs like the Saiyan Saga, Cell Saga, Buu Saga.
Like the very first time skip which is often overlooked. In the second arc of the entire series we have an 8 month time skip. This time skip contains Goku and Krillin doing the training regimen provided by Master Roshi. They focus on increasing their muscles and endurance since Roshi thinks the two will find their own unique fighting styles. Meanwhile, Yamcha is training in West City in preparation for the Strongest Under the Heavens Tournament as well, and he even gets a haircut! These time skips only get longer from here though.
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[@CarthusDojo]

Leave a like and a comment if you're here early! Thanks!

[@YxngCC]

I am as well

[@undeadkai9909]

Yo

[@MuichiroIsVeryHotNgl]

YES I AM.

[@velezbros_1]

well indeed we are

[@itsbrotherhoodkingc8329]

I am

[@UltraGman]

Vegeta's home for most of the time skip training for the Androids was a cliff where he stood and begged the universe to make him a Super Saiyan.

[@slacksviii9824]

Cried to the universe and banged his fist on the ground*

[@williamgolston5399]

😂😂😂😂

[@harleygunn4783]

If it works it works

[@slacksviii9824]

"I WANNA BE A SUPA SAIYAN, I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA"

[@Blackmello]

And all it took was a lot of push ups, a lot of sit ups, and plenty of juice

[@aaroncrawford7884]

I would love to see an "if Vegeta trained Gohan after the Cell Saga". Wonder what impact it would've had later on?

[@noobtuber7499]

Wasn’t Gohan stronger at that time though?

[@sclarvs8631]

@@noobtuber7499 he was but that doesn’t mean Vegeta couldn’t have helped Gohan keep up on his training

[@K1ngFreeza.]

@@sclarvs8631 it would change nothing since he made an what if gohan always trained

[@_WiZ420]

@@K1ngFreeza. I don't remember what happened with Vegeta in particular in that what if, but I think Gohan's kind nature would help his progression earlier and he wouldn't go Majin, thus ending the Buu saga before it starts. The one way it could happen is if a trained Gohan's energy would be enough to revive Buu on the spot. Remember it was the time he spent with Piccolo that turned Piccolo into a good person, which is a year at best, half a year realistically.

[@Kevinix-cf4tj]

@@noobtuber7499 yes gohan was stronger but vegeta had more combat experience

[@15mcollins]

Homeless Vegeta >>>>

[@NoodleGodGaming]

You forgot that the mystic water was actually just tap water and getting it from korin was the training that makes you stronger.

[@lazyliongames6660]

Yeah but then like right after there was the “super mystic water” which is just the trope the normal mystic water was making fun of but played seriously

[@Vulpixelchu]

What @lazyliongames6660 said. The Mystic Water is the regular water used for training in the Red Ribbon Army arc. The Ultra Divine Water, on the other hand, is an incredibly toxic liquid of which around 20 people had drank the liquid before Goku did (according to the anime), and no one survived. In the King Piccolo arc, Goku drinks it anyway and survives, possibly due to his amazing immune system he has as a Saiyan, although Toriyama likely did not have his Saiyan heritage in mind this early on in the story.

[@lazyliongames6660]

@@Vulpixelchu but it made him stronger

[@Vulpixelchu]

@@lazyliongames6660 That it did, yes. Survive the Ultra Divine Water and get a big boost in power, that's the concept.

[@jbasher94]

What if the Ultra Divine water gave him the heart virus? 😂 I’m kidding, but it does make just about as much since as getting it on Yardrat. You’re right about UDW, it just made me think of the above. 😂

[@MagicCardboardBox]

It'd be amazing if we just cut to tenshinhan's house one day and launch was there, and they'd been secretly married this entire time

[@GoofyKamiDeez]

Yes!

[@daelnelbel]

It’s been a while, did both sides of Launch like Tien?

[@liquidsleepgames3661]

​@@daelnelbelthe blond side did and the blue side didn't hate anyone and was happy enough to live in roshis house

[@daelnelbel]

@@liquidsleepgames3661 NEAT! :)

[@kaynines5996]

Akira Toriyama made so many time-skips in Dragon Ball he is making Hit blush.

[@taylorsgamersall2834]

LMAO IM DYING

[@oshkeet]

It's funny to think back when DB was actually being published in the 80s, shounen manga editors tended to be really ADVERSE to timeskips; supposedly some rationale it'd alienate viewers if the main character (esp one around the same age as the reader) was suddenly much older. Toriyama big skips in DB were handwaved as Goku's body needing to be taller and longer since the fighting because such a big part of the comic. But apparently Z made em really nervous until it proved itself.

[@Yuggdrasil]

That whole "it's his dream, not Chichi's" thing; the kid is 4 years old, his "dream" is what his mother has been drilling into his head since he was born.

[@user-om8dc5ne4u]

5:00 It’s wrong to compare Whis to the others, since his students didn’t surpass him, while Muten Roshi’s, Korin’s and Kami’s did.

[@fkjl4717]

Actually, Kami did not teach them anything, they just used Lookout and cloth made by Kami to improve their training. So it makes no sense for Kami to sent z-fighters away, as there is no conditions on Earth like at Kamis lookout (outside from Everest mountain), also there was the room of time and spirit, that could be used in preparation against Saiyans. So humans could be much stronger during Vegeta and Nappa attack.

[@andrewjackson9948]

That...and training basics will always be different than training masters

[@user-om8dc5ne4u]

@@fkjl4717 They learned how to sense Ki and control their own level. That's not something what could be learnt from just exercising.

[@fkjl4717]

@@user-om8dc5ne4u Goku learnt this from Popo, Vegeta learned this after battle on Earth, so it COULD be learned.

[@Leon_Ratty]

goku learned from popo and he didn't surpass popo's power yet

[@bootybandit9245]

It’s so odd hearing someone use “the strongest under the Heaven” instead of “the world martial arts tournament” but my god is it such a BADASS NAME

[@Firethorn.gaming]

Or just the Tenkaichi Budokai.

[@deaththekid5445]

fr never heard dat before

[@tayhonorable7421]

…please read vagabond (genuinely)

[@playeryale]

天下第一 literally means "under heaven number one", in both chinese and japanese

[@VolticWind]

8:53 Vegeta may be living in the gravity room full time during the this timeskip. It is modeled after the ship Goku used to travel to Namek. This is funny because he was effectively living in a space ready RV.

[@taylormademyself89]

I know few things dbz didn't show that would've been awesome to see 1.goku achieving ss2 , 2. Vegeta achieving ss2 , 3. Goku achieving ss3 , 4. Vegeta achieving ssg , we saw them in these forms but never got to see how they got them each happening in time skips 😎🤟

[@alexzero3736]

Goku ss2 was in the filler, after life tournament

[@MereMere]

@@alexzero3736 Goku never used SS2 against Pikkon.

[@user-fk5fp3xz7t]

And ssjb also

[@taylormademyself89]

@@user-fk5fp3xz7t true we only saw ssb after they learned it not when they did while training except thier fists that time they clashed while training lol

[@metalmorticia1]

We saw Vegeta achieving ss2 when babidi took over his mind

[@arforg]

its funny how Dragon Ball Z starts with Raditz then Dragon Ball Super starting with goku as a radish farmer

[@kennyinsignares8078]

underrated comment

[@maxohara6684]

Yamcha fell on a sharp rock when falling off a cliff

[@dreamcream3738]

4:55 The way I see it, Carthu, Kami and Roshi both had the mindset that their guided training only worked so far in a controlled environment. Having Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu wander the world was intended to put them in positions where they could not only broaden their horizons by meeting other people, but as some filler show, actually honing their training in practical situations. Iirc, there was a filler episode where Krillin, Yamcha and Tenshinhan used their training to save a village from a volcanic eruption. Something along those lines. Whis even touches upon this when he explains to Goku that he needs to "find his own Ultra Instinct", Whis's training can only do so much if Goku is specifically emulating him.

[@fkjl4717]

In Kamis case that makes no sense, since there was the room of time and spirit at Lookout.

[@dreamcream3738]

@@fkjl4717 the ROSAT is still a controlled environment, albeit in the sense that it is effectively solitary confinement and total isolation; the opposite of what wandering the world achieves

[@Fireball006]

0:30 Roshi thinks that they will find their own unique fighting styles on their own *Goku stealing every technique possible*

[@phoenixfirebird4221]

Something weird I realized was that Pan during resurrection F could barely move around much as she was born shortly before, yet in Goku Black arc, she can seemingly move around a lot, especially fly. She looks the same after the one year time skip in the ToP arc as well.

[@colbywolfe2826]

In the new movie dbs super hero they say pan learns to fly even tho she already did when she was bady

[@loooongneck]

DBS totally fucked up the children character designs. Goten and Trunks not looking any older doesn’t make any sense either

[@kokkouu]

@@loooongneck yeah I’m the movie they’re older like the end of z

[@UnwantedGhost1]

That's the writers & animators not putting forth much effort with the in universe age design.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

@@loooongneck Not only that. But also the clothes everyone besides Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo are wearing in every screen time they're in. They're all the same. But that's just my opinion.

[@Exro.]

The "Yo Son Goku" Special is definetly canon. The 1st time Tarble (Vegeta's Brother) becomes animated and seen on screen. Later to be mentioned in DB (Super) Battle of God's & The Broly Movie.

[@That_Son_Ofa_Itch]

It’s sad that vegeta never learned which planet he was on and where his family was. “He’s on some distant planet doing god knows what, and even if I wanted him to join the T.o.p I wouldn’t even know where to start looking.” -Vegeta dbz pre tournament of power selection

[@Exro.]

@@That_Son_Ofa_Itch Tarble was and is still too weak to compete there. He's not a fighter, just has royal blood.

[@That_Son_Ofa_Itch]

@@Exro. yeah, saddly. He’s a pure hearted sayain by nature though like goku. They should give him more screen time. His potential with S cells (yes I know we all hate the retcons for super sayain) would allow him to easily unlock ssj and it’s other forms. They could of also used him in the Ssgss ritual but vegeta screwed the pooch on that one. By not having shenron bring him there to begin with

[@kokirimido3924]

@@That_Son_Ofa_Itch He could use the dragon balls, but Vegeta knew that he wasn't worth it.

[@GodOfSpeed2099]

Tarble was mentioned in BoG and Broly ? When ?

[@SomeoneWhoLikesGeography]

6:02 I was not expecting him to use history there haha

[@D1gi4rs]

4:54 maybe the whole "explore the world" thing is more about learning to grow strong on their own and the lack of things to teach, since guided training from people like Kami or Roshi could only in theory make you reach their powers, from that point you would need to learn about your power and grow on your own. And maybe Whis' training's power growth could also be because Whis is so powerful that there is technically no limit to how much you can grow.

[@jackgoodman6484]

Exactly my thoughts when he talked about guided training versus "wandering" in the series! Goku became on-par with or stronger than Roshi, Korin, Kami, and King Kai when training with them. The other characters surpassed their instructors too. Whis is fundamentally different than all of those instructors because surpassing him would require attaining power in an entirely different realm of existence. The reason Goku and Vegeta haven't stopped training with him is because they haven't even come close to his level of power or ability.

[@priestesslucy3299]

*@Carthu:* Regarding the 'Wandering the World' bit, it comes from Dragonball's Wuxia and Daoist origins. Whenever a Martial Artist reaches their limits, they would go on a journey of self discovery to discover a stroke of enlightenment, to Break their Limits as it were, so they can continue their training to new heights. Whis is a transcendent being who seems to understand how to break those limits for his pupils directly under his guidance.

[@CarthusDojo]

My brother in Christ I know it was just a joke lol

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@CarthusDojo it's an element of Dragonball a lot of people don't understand, but those roots are so fascinating to me 😋

[@Animaster89]

@@CarthusDojo did not sound like a joke^^

[@croc_cove_craze]

@@SomeBody-_-Yt Agreed

[@croc_cove_craze]

@@SomeBody-_-Yt Agreed

[@BirdieSenpai]

Just a quick clarification: Indeed, in the anime adaptation, Vegeta goes off to train with Whis without Goku, but, according to Toriyama, Goku asked Whis to train him and Vegeta tagged along, refusing to be left behind. Fantastic video as always, Carthu! Been super busy with life, so it's been a long time, so coming back to your channel and watching your groovy videos feels great!

[@yamahakid450f]

Toriyama didn't write the super manga, Toyotaro pretty much had free reign. Toriyama had more involvement in the Anime than the actual manga in Super.

[@BirdieSenpai]

@@yamahakid450f Commom misconception, actually. Toriyama was more involved with the manga, collaborating directly with Toyotaro and often correcting panels and story beat, whereas it is much more difficult to influence an entire staff of writers, storyboarders, animators, directors, and producers working on each anime episode. The manga is also much more consistent with Toriyama's original manga...well, before the Moro and Granolla arcs, that is.

[@MereMere]

Yeah, Toriyama said that Goku trained with Whis before Vegeta. That was for Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F'. Dragon Ball Super just retconned that and flipped who trains with Whis first.

[@ultraplayer7436]

Request: "The entire story of DBZ, I guess."

[@ieatrats8224]

Regarding the King Kai part with the weighted clothing thing, I'm pretty sure he also only struggles with the clothes in the anime.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I remember it in the manga, and I haven’t seen the anime, but I could be forgetting

[@Midnight_Master-1]

This is gonna be pretty awesome to hear how you think or prove what things happened between Time Skips and things hidden.

[@goku1249]

Technically they haven't surpassed whis so he wouldn't tell them to train themselves because he has more to teach

[@charlir2954]

I was remembering some TFS stuff when Carthus said Goku was growing raddishes. "Raditz was so weak, you can practically grow him". So....Goku was a brother farmer LOL

[@press8704]

8:53 I did an actual, real-life spit take lmaoooo

[@Trap5656]

Huh? 🤔 I learned two new things from this video that Goku and Krillin trained under Master Roshi for 8 months, and Yamaha got his scars off-screen. Anyways another great video man. 👍

[@godzilla4189]

Since you said it was a missed oppurtunity...What if Krillin, Tien and Yamcha drank the Ultra Divine water during their training with Korin? Would make a big difference during the early parts of Z?

[@alexzero3736]

Ye, i love the idea. Imagine another close fight between Tienshinhan and Goku , they did fight like child vs adult previously, but now it s adult vs adult, master vs master...it should be beautiful. Also Piccolo would be really shocked by humans power in his fight against Krillin, and whitnessing other performances.

[@AceMaster078]

yamcha dies a bit earlier™

[@unepomme1375]

Its actually just water.

[@godzilla4189]

@@unepomme1375 Thts the Super Divine Water. Not the Ultra Divine Water

[@unepomme1375]

@@godzilla4189 Looked it up, my bad.

[@grom8cs]

Dude I love your channel, as a laymen when it comes to lore it's awesome that there's a channel out there that is so fantastic at weaving what's happening/happened while being entertaining and interesting. Amazing.

[@jordanglasper1064]

This was beyond epic, thanks for the amazing recap. And accurate time specifications.

[@genostellar]

Just a note on the 10x weighted apple. Goku was also lifting the equivalent of 10 of his own arms with only the strength of two arms, and he was wearing his weights on his wrists, which were also 10x their weight. If it was just the weight of 10 apples, there's no way he'd struggle with it at all, but that's not all it was. As for the 10 year time skip to the fight with Uub, I think we can consider that no longer fully canon, though not off the books either. We'll call it soft canon. It may still happen, but not in the same time frame as we were given the first time. After all, when we were given it the first time, the characters didn't have any god ki at all as it hadn't been thought of yet, so things are going to be different if they choose to include it again.

[@titasjankunas.3685]

It's big brain time.

[@genostellar]

@@titasjankunas.3685 I'm not even taking into consideration that those "apples" are probably denser than earth apples and might even weigh more than they normally would.

[@LupinticDream]

Nothing in End of Z really contradicts Super besides Bulma saying she hadn't seen Goku in years. Just because Goku didn't explicitly use God ki or Ultra Instinct against Uub, doesn't mean he didn't have them, as there was no reason for him to go all out against a kid with barely any training. If Super ever covers End of Z, I doubt anything will be changed. Recapped, perhaps, sure, but not changed.

[@genostellar]

@@LupinticDream I never said that one contradicted the other, I just said that things would be done a little different and pointed to god ki as an example of things not being thought of at the time that the Uub fight happened. Having said that, it is a little contradicted by the fact of Bulma saying how long it's been since she's seen Goku, especially since Super is still going in the manga. Add on top of that the fact that when Battle of Gods and Resurrection F were remade into episodes for Super, they had no reason to alter them at all, but they still did. Things will be changed no matter what.

[@LupinticDream]

@@genostellar I'm aware. That's where I disagreed with you; I don't believe they're going to change anything. When it comes to the Super manga and anime, they've never outright altered details from the original run of the manga before. Maybe they've recontextualized past events, sure, like with Potara Fusion and the time limit, but that's different from outright changing details. And since there's not a reason they 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘰 for End of Z, I don't believe they're going to start doing so now. In fact, something I've noticed with Toyotaro in particular is that he's very hyper fixated on making sure the Super manga lines up with Toriyama's original DB manga, going off of interviews with Toyotaro and just the content itself. Almost to a frustrating degree, actually, as it seems like he's being limited on what he can and can't do. But that's a whole 'nother topic entirely, so I'll bite my tongue on that. If they do change anything about End of Z in Super, it would only be if Toriyama directly requested them to. They're too adherent to the original work on their own.

[@jamainegardner4193]

2 months timeskip in the Moro arc, 6 in the Granolah arc, 5 years from EOZ-GT, a few months between Luud and M2, a few more months between M2 and Goku returning to Earth, a year between Goku's loss to Baby and Baby vs Uub, 1 year between Baby and S17, and finally, 100 years between Goku leaving and the last scene of GT.

[@xKilonova]

GT isn't even remotely canon. Get that knockoff shit out of here.

[@dawnkist1456]

@@xKilonova It's a separate canon to super. And canon or not, it's still official DB anime

[@xKilonova]

@@dawnkist1456 what? "Separate canon" is not a thing. Dragon ball's overall story from DB through DB super does not include that abomination known as GT. Akira Toriyama didn't write GT. IE, not canon.

[@nailclippers7409]

@@xKilonova Toriyama had a strong influence in gt and it’s in a separate continuity. It’s not canon to super but it’s essentially more of a what if. It’s canon in another thing

[@xKilonova]

@@nailclippers7409 If the main story line is Super, then it's not "canon" by any stretch of the imagination. You literally just said it's a "what if". Why do you nerds argue this? IT'S NOT CANON. "Toriyama reportedly enjoyed watching the series himself and would later refer to DBGT as more of 'a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball.'" Side. Story. Not canon, similar to most of the original DBZ movies. Side stories, not canon.

[@markwiedeman7271]

I dont remember the hyperbolic time chamber having a huge difference in gravity, just that as a realm to exist in it was very different

[@Mak10z]

Ah yes.. Gohan got the bardok gene. following in his grandfather's path of the great scientist!

[@CarthusDojo]

aight this one made me laugh LOL

[@Sheogoratful]

Ah yes r/dragonbqllsuper agenda lol

[@pancake9652]

Great video carthu really enjoyed it!

[@hoshiryu]

Don't mind me, just here to remind people that the Basic Galick Gun was Stronger than a Super Kamehameha Vegeta at a Power Level of 18.000 Goku at a Power Level of 24.000, with Kaio-Ken x3 Vegeta used a Galick Gun (Earth Splitting Galick-Gun, Max Charged, still just a Basic version) vs Goku's Kaio-Ken x3 Super Kame-Hame-Ha (Max Charged) and they were Equal, until Goku pushed to Kaio-Ken x4 ..... Yeah shocking

[@alexzero3736]

Another example of Toriayma sloppiness. During fight against Raditz Kamehameha was more powerful, giving 2.5x multiplayer.

[@ChrisAtheist]

@@alexzero3736 wasn't it 3x ? I'm pretty sure goku had about 3xx against Raditz and with Kamehameha over 1000

[@deconso11]

My guess for goku struggling at king kais after going through the time chamber is the difference in time between the events and lack of gravity Chambers to accustom himself to the change on a permanent scale. Plus he's taller when he goes to kais which means the gravity increase would affect him even more than as a child due to the change

[@dan_aca]

12:48 raditz farmer

[@JonesDylan874]

A well-edited video on some things we didn't know about Dragon Ball. Good work, Carthu!

[@CyanicCore]

This format doesn't completely mesh with this level of detail or speed, but the info's as clear as ever! Thanks for another video clearing up the timeline.

[@Fireball006]

Vegeta 100% lived in the gravity room during that whole time skip where Bulma said they didn’t live together

[@Saimeren]

I think Dragon Ball Super retcons the end of Z. I think the new official end of Z is the end of the battle with Buu. And then Super erases all of the stuff after that 10 year time skip. It's pretty obvious that when they decided to end Z they never had another series in mind, so they wrapped it up. But with the introduction of Super, they kind of retcon the end of Z to now be Super's canon, and the time skip stuff isn't canon anymore.

[@xxblank_0574]

12:55 I think it’s canon because in super when beerus was looking for the ssg, Bulma said to Vegeta “don’t have a nice younger brother you could call” and Vegeta says “he live in unknown planet in some part of the galaxy” and this why I think it might be canon, I could be wrong

[@TaeSunWoo]

Loving your new edit style. Thank you History of Dragon Ball, I guess

[@Historicutuber]

This was such a great video man!

[@ninosplace881]

Gotta say these videos are always super enjoyable

[@thatmexicandude4278]

I always thought that the heart virus that Goku had managed to kill him because becoming a Super Saiyan lowered his heart condition/health due to him having to get angry accelerating his heart not being able to fully control it without some training

[@ChargeQM]

Then why do no other Super Saiyans get the virus?

[@hachi7692]

@@ChargeQM what he means is that the heart virus was aggravated by being a Super Saiyan and pumping his heart way faster due to the anger

[@BLABLABLA-kl8eq]

@@ChargeQM because kakarot was send to earth as low quality sayan :)

[@jeffstump7601]

It was likely caused by all that pocket bacon.

[@carlosmoret2675]

Its was clearly started by future trunks that 2 years from then à New Hearst virus would show up and kill tons of ppl on earth. I dont get why ppl make stuff up it was in universe explained

[@Fatalzyntax]

Wow. I'm well versed in the DBZ anime but I knew nothing about the manga. Being able to see all of the differences of even minor details is quite the treat. Thank you.

[@TechnoL33T]

Your editing is really nice!

[@gspar116]

Great video as usual I didn’t even know I needed this until I saw it

[@zachnotzack4890]

I just thought of this while watching your "What If VEGITO BLUE fought JIREN?", and immediately went to your channel and hastily tried to find your newest video XD. So the idea is: "What if Goku stayed longer on Yardrat?". I thought of this when I heard about Vegito being able to use Instant Transmission.

[@ojpickle5923]

Frieza kills everyone and blows up earth before Goku gets there. Goku would eventually have a rematch with Frieza but since At this point in the series the namekian dragon can only revive people one at a time that means earth is gone. No time travel, no revival, Goku is just alone.

[@meta4240]

@@ojpickle5923 Goku could probably just instant transmission to Earth from Yardrat when Frieza arrives. The extra year (or however long it took to get to Earth from Yardrat) would probably make it possible.

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

@@ojpickle5923 Are you talking about the Timeline where Trunks doesn’t come back…? Because Trunks took care of the Colds, then waited hours for Goku.

[@zachnotzack4890]

@@ojpickle5923 Trunks, and also the heart medicine doesn't really matter cuz Goku forgor.

[@dystopiaseven]

AMAZING DUDE

[@paranomsun]

GREAT VIDEO! Subbed

[@barondavisiscool]

I LOVE vids like this 😁👍🏾

[@AwkwardPain]

Overall a good video. Though, I am not sure you can classify something that they said when they were 4 (and probably before they really knew what being a scholar was) is a life long dream. Motives change and Chi Chi always seemed more interested in his academics than he was. He honestly is depicted more often than not as miserable or bored every scene he is shown to be studying. I believe from talking with people who live/d in japan is that is a cultural thing where all children were taught to want to impress their parents and need to strive for greatness in the classroom. Which could make sense. Nothing to say that his dream was for sure not their true dream and aspiration, or that he didn't want to eventually have a career in academics, but this is not confirmation by any means.

[@AspiePilo82]

Exactly. Hate how this youtuber keeps trying to correct us that it was all Gohan and not Chichi like if we are some sort of dummies or something. Infact hes the dummy here. Haha

[@rynobehnke8289]

I suppose its worth noting that every single instance of Gohan being bored with his school work is actually anime filler.

[@ParadiseDB7]

Do... do you not know what lifelong means 😶

[@dewrito2325]

Great video! Learned a bit

[@LetsPlayNintendoITA2023]

very nice video and well explained. bravo

[@andylojik-harvey6806]

I feel like the masters have their pupils wonder the world to gain wisdom, as most of them were still younger and I think that’s important. That being said they could also run into anything imaginable throughout their journey

[@DynastyZwarrior90]

There's another small timeskip (about 1.5 month) between the fight with Vegeta and the arrival on Namek. During that time Bulma's father visitied Goku who asked him to built a spaceship (didn't make sense as they didn't even know that Gohan and the others would have trouble on Namek). Also the timeskip after Namek was a bit longer it was about 1 year and 9 months. I wish those timeskipes will be explored someday, the 10 year timeskip before the end of Z has been milked to death...

[@priestesslucy3299]

Remember Dragonball Part 1? Goku likes adventure. You think he's going to skip out on Namek if he can help it? Check out a new world, eat some of their food, maybe find a few new strong guys to fight. Sounds like a great time to Goku

[@DynastyZwarrior90]

@@priestesslucy3299 Maybe but the thing is that Gohan and the others should have finished their adventure by the time Goku gets there.

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@DynastyZwarrior90 You're assuming the Dragon Radar works for Namekian Dragon Balls. There's a very real possibility it could take Bulma up to a month of tinkering to get it to work (probably a lot less if they found a ball to use as a radiation reference, but they had no way of knowing the balls would be conveniently stored in the villages)

[@CJsPlaygroundRHE]

Awesome video!

[@user-rr7bu9fe3k]

This is honestly an episode I never knew I needed

[@AVII_-qc6bu]

CONGRATS FOR 400K CARTHU

[@Riley_187]

Goku said the time chamber almost killed him when he was a kid, and maybe he stayed close to the steps so it wasn't so strong lol

[@DrMcMoist]

Outstanding presentation.

[@N9Entertainment_]

"Threw new infront of the name and called it a day"😂. I like this guy

[@tiller0623]

I thought in the anime Vegeta said he was much stronger than Gohan before the "Majin boost". At which point he had to have reached Super Saiyan 2 before receiving the "majin boost".

[@Whoopingcoughalig]

Iirc Vegeta was almost as strong as Goku SSJ2 with his SSJ2 Form. The Majin boost left Vegeta *dead even* with Goku SSJ2 on their fight.

[@jimjoebob12]

you are correct. the video made a lil mistake

[@furiousgamerxz5141]

shouldn't King Kai have been brought back to life when the Z-Fighters made the wish to bring everyone killed by Cell back to life?? It never made sense to me why he wasn't unless I am remembering things incorrectly.

[@CarthusDojo]

King Kai chose to stay dead to keep Goku company in heaven!

[@ogeidnomar4601]

There seems to be difference whether he's alive or dead.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

@@CarthusDojo Seriously? That's pretty dumb since there was an entire episode of him complaining about not being revived. Hopefully they brought him back during the time skip between Super Broly & Superheroes. Before he's completely forgotten altogether in the future like Launch.

[@SlimeBlueMS]

What's dumb is they wrote that episode after the manga chapter explaining Kai didn't want to be alive. Stupid writing in the anime contradicts the source material

[@typicalrandomgod8188]

Thanks Man, I realy appreciate.

[@susheelchoragudi766]

I love db so much but everytime I watch this dude I realise why it is so close to my heart and it is so amazing seeing someone so nice yet on this planet

[@buckassnerd1906]

I'd love it if it was revealed that Yamcha had a run in with Piccolo jr & that's how he got the scars, but I'm sure he would have mentioned that at some point.

[@cameronstewart6662]

gravity training was too much for him at the time when he first went into the chamber and then when he went through it again on King Kai's planet he didn't have any experience using that kind of training in between that time

[@25mrkeys]

This explained so much 🙏🏽

[@Rotationoftheballs]

“Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!” Isn’t canon because there is Gregory in it

[@onorebakasama]

14:22 ffs Goku. You weren't there for Chi-Chi's pregnancy with Goten, but you were there for Gohan. You also knew that Videl was pregnant with Pan and should've seen her when she was late term, being your daughter-in-law and all. How in the hell do you take a look at Bulma and thinks she's eating too much?

[@Sidney_Gaming]

Super goku = dumb Z goku = smart

[@SeboHyatt]

Holy crap this video was great!

[@kdub8337]

Congrats on 4k

[@aRaskyl]

Video suggestion: I'm rewatching the saiyan arc right now and upon going back I'm noticing a lot of things that have been retconned about the saiyans. I was wondering if you could do an videos on these and show what is completely overwritten and what could be reconciled. Particularly episode 20 Goku's Ancestors has a full flashback that's been largely broken by Frieza and later story changes.

[@LapisAndroid17ParkRanger]

True. That stuff is only in the anime doh, not in the manga.

[@aRaskyl]

@@LapisAndroid17ParkRanger I'm aware, it doesn't affect my suggestion.

[@alexzero3736]

Most fillers from DBZ are respected by DBS, so sayians vs tuffles war happened, and murder of king Vegeta by Freezer too.

[@Scorpionspear77]

I actually didn’t mind the filler in the original DB and DBZ anime’s because they filled in some of these time skips- the stuff between Baba and the 22nd tournament being a personal favorite.

[@SlimeBlueMS]

I like filler because it gives us more scenes that flesh out the humanity and daily lives of the characters I love, like spending a day at an amusement park with friends

[@jorgesebastiansilvaorellan1159]

great video!!!!!!

[@essiiiiii]

You are good with the numbers, Did you know that Freeza 4th form (in the days) had a power of 1.000.000. Now a days They say alot of differerent things. But back in the days. 1.000.000 Frieza vs. Goku @ 800.000. Those were the numbers in the early 90s

[@essiiiiii]

And the Gohan and Piccolo story... The star was Gohan after the Frieza saga. In the Buu saga it is shown, but Akira changed his mind. Gohan was the treu hero then. A kid with a power who can take down someone with a power of 1.000.000 and he is not even there..... What do you see????

[@essiiiiii]

DBZ, Gohan shows us his power. With the Saiyins, Freeza, Cell and Biu

[@essiiiiii]

Goku and Piccolo are the main cast for Dragon ball. Dragonball Z shows THAT fusion! Super... you see Gohan go back to his strenght

[@essiiiiii]

Ow and btw..... Dragon bal GT is not canon!!!! Akira Toriyama did NOT MAKE THIS

[@NWG_DASH]

To me the most Dangerous thing about Gohan, isn't his Potential or New Beast Form. It's the fact that he is extremely intelligent on top of all that. Power, Technique, and BRAINS!? Dude is an ANIMAL. Same for Future Trunks. Rage form, Spirit swords now? Hybrids are limitless lol.

[@wiztansupercell2512]

the amount of likes compared to the views is sad... it's a really professional and fun video... literally less than one in twenty people liked the video

[@koko_1989]

WTF?? How did I not hear about this channel before?? This is amazing stuff!! ❤❤

[@CarthusDojo]

Thank you!

[@JasonJordan198]

Another thing about Goku in the ROSAT is that the effects of the ROSAT doesn't take place until you step off the steps into the actual room.

[@weuepa]

2:18 it wouldve been interesting if both Yamcha and Tien drank the water and unlocked their potentials, but Krillin didnt because he had already died before and couldnt be revived again by the dragon balls, so he would have to try keeping on the same level as Tien and Yamcha with his training only Kinda wish these parts had been better detailed and we saw everyone training on their own

[@UnwantedGhost1]

I like to theorize that Mercenary Tao Pai Pai as a cyborg cut Yamcha while hiding his face off screen before reuniting with the gang. Because he's the only being capable of leaving permanent scars as it was shown with Tien. If I were Toriyama, I would have confirmed that. And try my best not to forget a lot of things before reconning them.

[@alexzero3736]

It's more believable that some wolves made it while Yamcha learned his new style.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

@@alexzero3736 Did Yamcha learned to sense chi in Dragonball before Z?

[@alexzero3736]

@@UnwantedGhost1 I dont think so. We saw that all z-fighters are sensed chi after trainining with Kami. But in 23 rd tournament only Goku had this ability, Yamcha did not sense anything from Hero (Kami in disguise) , also Tenshihan used his eyes to follow Gokus movement not chi-sense.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

Tao Pai Pai was another wasted opportunity. I wish Hercule Satan got revenge by defeating him once & for all. The cybernetic assassin is likely still killing people off screen for decades after his last appearance on page/screen.

[@knight1fox253]

What an amazing piece of works

[@trainwithrhettkind1165]

Very good video

[@city7486]

There is absolutely no way that Yamcha actually cheated on Bulma. Future Trunks would have gotten his information from Bulma and is thus an unreliable source. In the past, Bulma has thought that Yamcha was cheating, but in actuality, Bulma had misread the situation and assumed the worst. Just look at what happened with Hasky. I am sure without a doubt that Bulma had once again misread a situation and assumed Yamcha was cheating, but the reality was something else.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

My guess is BULMA told Trunks that Yamcha cheated on her, and we know Bulma is not a reliable narrator, she's not about to tell Trunks it was her fault. Dragonball constantly showed HER to be the flirtatious one, not Yamcha, he spent a good chunk of Dragonball being terrified of women.

[@city7486]

@@PlanetZoidstar I'm glad some else gets it.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@city7486 Yeah, alot of people are too quick to write off the "Yardrat Heart Virus" theory as pure fanon...Really there IS no explanation where the Heart Virus comes form as it was purely a plot device to remove Goku from the bulk of the Android Saga and I doubt Toriyama put any thought into where it came from or why ONLY Goku is infected by it. Yardrat just makes the most sense as no one else in the cast goes there (until Super) and diseases don't always kick in immediately. Hell you can contract a cold and not know it until the next week. Kuru Disease can take a whole decade or more to manifest symptoms. You can go 20 years before you realise you have Leprosy. Far more time than the Heart Virus' 2-3 years.

[@city7486]

@@PlanetZoidstar There is only one issue with the Yardrat theory, the cure. For the cure to exist, there would have to have been an outbreak on Earth. If only Goku was affected, no one would make a cure, except Bulma. However, Bulma's expertise is engineering, not medicine. Of course, every heart virus theory has flaws, so I don't understand people who discount the Yardrat theory out of hand, when their preferred theory is also flawed. Regardless, as someone who has dabbled in comic making, all that matters to me is the narrative. I think leaving it vague in canon was the right move, as an unneeded exposition always hurts the narrative.

[@alexzero3736]

Actually their relations were cold since the first DBZ chapter. So why not to cheat? There are other girls in the world. BTW Yamcha did leave Bulma alone for about 3 years doing preparations to the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.

[@chaosfire321]

2:14 sounds like its worthy of a What If. I mean hell, that's Namek Saga power levels at least. What if Yamcha, Tien and Krillen drank the Ultra Divine Water training with Korrin?

[@priestesslucy3299]

Especially if that leads to all three of them getting their potential unlocked by Saichoro. It's so sad how hard Tenshinhan works but the plateaus slow him down so much

[@alexzero3736]

Most probably they gonna kill Nappa, but Vegeta would kill Yamcha and Tien, Chaoutzu anyway. Although Piccolo would survive and murder Vegeta in the end. And Trunks would be a son of Yamcha.

[@teamsolidgaming629]

This is a great video good information never knew this.

[@Greatscottwii2]

I was sitting there minding my own buisness when I hear a voice start talking, and I am like, is that Carthu? Interesting that KZbin felt I needed to see this, glad it did ^-^

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

the possibility of having Broli and Uub added to the Z-Fighters lineup... got the feeling that they will make SSJ4 canon as Broli's new form and just call it something else.

[@KingNae]

Broly's Oozaru without transform into ape + Super Saiyan God = Bingo

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

LSSJ God

[@Alovon]

TBH at this rate End of Z is likely relegated into it's own cannon as "What if Super didn't happen" or something. Super already eating into that 5-year absense already does some damage to it's reliability, and Superhero seems to be doing even more damage with it happening at most a year before end of z, if not only a few months based on Pan's age and look.

[@alexzero3736]

Why there so much attention to the "end of Z"? Like something important. They show some characters, how they would look like being old and their adult kids. Then Goku fights that reincarnation of kid Buu, and takes him away for training... that is all.

[@Alovon]

@@alexzero3736 it's more like the clarifing context behind End of Z as originally presented is completely contradictory to what DB Super shows

[@alexzero3736]

@@Alovon compilation of fake history? Well, ok.

[@andyghkfilm2287]

8:35 “tons” isn’t an exaggeration. The math is that you’d weigh 18,000 kilograms, which is nearly 40,000 pounds, in case anyone else was wondering.

[@SelfConsciousAiResistance]

Chichi brainwashed gohan to say he wants to become a scholar.

[@socialaccount0000]

Speaking of the heart virus, what I never see online is what if *someone else* got the heart virus, its always Goku this goku that, but other characters were in the wilderness for quite some time, most notably Piccolo and Gohan. Piccolo, probably has foreign enough biology where the heart virus wouldnt work, but Gohan? Imagine Gohan gets the heart virus in the future, AND Goku dies fighting the Androids, we'd be even more fucked than in canon

[@masculinerevamp144]

The heart virus thing is a plot hole, because why does no one else get it? Where'd he get it from? What kind of virus could effect a super saiyan? Etc. The heart virus is never really explained at all.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@masculinerevamp144 I still think Goku contracted the heart virus on Yardrat, it just took 2 years to start showing the symptoms. Diseases can take years to start affecting you after the point of exposure.

[@alexzero3736]

Actually Yamcha did take some pills too.