Everything I LIKE and DISLIKE about the 2025 Toyota Crown Signia

[@stevennevins6643]

I paid $51,800 for an Oxygen White Limited with the tech package, and every accessory listed at the Toyota website. ( dash cam, all season mats, illuminated door sills, mud flaps, door cup/door edge protectors, wheel locks, and paint protection package). That price also included full window tinting. Don’t miss a HUD or dimming side view mirrors. Do miss not having a motorized steering column. Gas mileage is exceeding the EPA estimates. After 1800 miles, averaging 39.4 mpg with 60-70% of those miles on the highway at 70+ mph.

[@michaelhoapili4688]

That's my problem have a hard time spending 50k for a Toyota

[@chinnana583]

IMHO, Spending this much and not having basic auto dimming mirror on at least driver side is ridiculous. Toyota is charging for it badge here.

[@mrbob9556]

@@chinnana583 Not having a rear power outlet in a 50k car is insulting when even the basic cars have one. I think this is nothing more than a glorified Camry.

[@justincook54]

Thanks for detailing all the lighting. I'm not aware that anyone else has done so on KZbin.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

It's all about the details which impact your daily drive! Thanks for watching 👋

[@DomCampbellonline]

I 100% agree - this car at this price point should have privacy glass. I'm also very disappointment about that.

[@billyrock8305]

Makes grandpas old Avalon look like a Lada. Stunning. Incredible. Modern. 😮 “ State or Province “ 🇺🇸 🇨🇦

[@E_Rice]

I LOVE that they didn't tint it. I hate the dealership tint. I'll have my own specialist tint the vehicle with superior tint. I think because it's not a "real" SUV but a station wagon so they don't have to tint.

[@bill7481]

I really like this vehicle. Dimming mirrors and rear sunshades would be great; however, the dealbreaker for me is the non-opening sunroof. Toyota came really close to my ideal road tripping vehicle.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

Considering the fuel range, this would make for an excellent long haul road trip vehicle! It's not too often you'll find 500+ miles on a tank anymore given tank sizes are typically smaller on hybrid vehicles.

[@bill7481]

@@CarsMadeSimple Absolutely!

[@NV-xd5ui]

Long trip without spare tire - no , thank you

[@justincook54]

Open sun roof for a road trip? Driving down the highway at 80 mph with the sun roof open sounds pretty unpleasant to me.

[@batmama4242]

Do share. What is your ideal road tripping vehicle? Am in the process of deciding what to buy. I might be overlooking or forgetting to think about some thing when narrowing down my choices.

[@JimWilliams-y6r]

The Crown Signia also lacks the heads-up display that is available on the Crown.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

Yes, I did mention this in my driving review coming up. I think it would be nice to see a Platinum trim become available with features missing and the TurboMax powertrain.

[@sophaman9193]

My venza hybrid i think better because the venza have head up display

[@springertube]

Nice overview, but surprised no mention of: - No proper opening sunroof, carry-over miss from the outgoing Venza, hoping no one would notice? Even the Venza's "lowly(er)" RAV4 cousin has this feature at least on some trims. - Absent spare tire, another major miss. (I was fully expecting a mention when back there talking about no rear outlets). And, no, the answer is not run-flats. There are so many conditions/circumstances those will leave you stranded. I understand that more and more vehicles are sold without spares these days; doesn't make it right. I get that it's a hybrid and the battery has to go somewhere.. So, if that's the reason, figure a different configuration for the battery. Or, Toyota: weight savings for CAFE mpg? So, offer a big enough well for it and sell the wheel/tire as an accessory. Other bugaboo: enough with the big wheel/low profile tires on these family haulers (among others, looking at you Chevy with the Suburban's ghetto 24s (?@!#?) now on some trims). If the lesser Signia trim has a smaller wheel (more sidewall) I'd have that swapped out on the upper trim day one. I get that these are not real off roaders, and barely "soft roaders" (such as regularly graded Forest Service roads) but I'm not sure these would pass muster (for long) on the proverbial weekend "cottage road" or even some of our poorly maintained paved roads.

[@badkid73]

Nobody who wants to keep a vehicle long term wants to deal with an opening moonroof or panoramic roof when you see the crazy repair prices. It is fantastic if you plan on keeping it for 5 to 7 years only. An opening roof almost contradicts Toyota’s long term reliability philosophy.

[@springertube]

@badkid73 I (and immediate family) have had no fewer than seven regular sunroof cars, Hondas, Acuras and Toyotas. In my nearly 55 years of driving, and others', no problems except a lube issue on one and mechanism other (at high mileage). And, yes, I am a multi-year, "long term type" owner--75k+ on all, 125k+ on 4, including one 160k. While I/we do not have experience with pano roofs, I prefer the regular anyway.... no (compelling enough) need for the larger and, yes, potential problems, liabilities that might accompany some of them. Still, with the Asian brands especially, I'd prefer to have an opening pano to a non-opening or none at all, and hope for the best! I'd vote that manufacturers provide an option of a regular (smaller) roof...but once the pano genie is out of the bottle and that Kool aid ingested, might be a tough sell for a lot of folks if the only option.

[@JohnSandovalesq]

I'm sorry, but "uneven armrests" as one of your dislikes is comical. It must be a pretty damn good car if that was one of the few dislikes you could come up with. I don't know that I've ever owned a car that had the door armrest and center console armrest at exactly the same height. As for the window tint, in some states they may consider this a wagon instead of an SUV, and in some states you can have privacy glass on the rear of an SUV but not on a sedan or wagon. Last comment, I have a 2023 Forester Wilderness with auto dimming mirrors at all positions. When I got the windows tinted, it severely reduced the effectiveness of the mirror dimming at night. If you live in a southern tier state that is window tint friendly then the auto dimming mirrors are not that big of a deal. I would like to have the option, as I live in New York where it takes an act of congress and a doctors note to have tint on your car. But, as a Gen Xer whose first car was a '69 VW Bug, this would not be a deal breaker at all for me as the rest of the car is seriously well equipped and well made. I'm considering getting one of these next year.

[@laurieritchie7998]

It’s a Lexus in Toyota name! Beautiful Vehicle! The Crown name was the first name of the vehicle Toyota first made in 1955!

[@ryanzeid146]

I think a Hybrid Max version of this vehicle would be another $8000 more than this Limited trim. I’m sure it would be fun to drive, but a $60,000 Toyota wagon would be a hard sell.

[@StationDOOD]

I'm surprised nobody mentions that it lacks fog lights. Seems like something any 4/AWD should have. Are the LED headlights just really good?

[@CarsMadeSimple]

Fog lights are not necessary, especially when the lights are mounted lower on the fog end. The headlights are good on this vehicle but not the best from Toyota/Lexus. Much better than any halogen in the past.

[@bapakbob3897]

I read the Signia was comfortable. Gonna upgrade from a Corolla hybrid. $52k with the technology package, over TWICE as much as my LE cost!!! SUV looks, same as every other SUV out there. But the Signia killer was Toyota itself. For about the same price i got one of the best Toyotas they ever made, and now don't for 2025, the 2024 4Runner Limited: Tinted passenger glass, full opening hatch with rear opening hatch window, 20" wheels, Leather seating for seven, front two seats heated and cooled. More chrome (not plastic patches) on the outside than a 59 Cadillac, opening, vented, inside covering sunroof, available dash cam, very nicely finished faux wood trim. JBL 15 speaker tunemaster. Several power outlets, one which can run 120v! A powerful naturally aspirated 4 liter V6 motor deemed the most reliable motor toyota ever made by none other than the Car Care Nut on youtube. A Real 5 spd transmission. In Navy Blue, redwood leather, with the chrome trim it looks like an upscale (but ultra reliable) Range Rover. For pennies compared to the price of the RR! 4Runner Limited or Signia? Tough choice? not.

[@markhu7454]

old hybrid system. avg driving dynamics. over priced?

[@judithhermann1354]

What about a missing space saver spare tire!

[@delbardell607]

Your review was excellent. Noting the outside mirrors not being dimming and the connectivity issues are deal killers for me. I love the style of the Signia also, however, there are several additional items that prevent me from buying one. I must have HUD which is only offered on the Crown Platinum. Also I would want the new Camry hybrid system for the better MPG. Correct those four items and a Signia will be in my garage immediately. 🤞

[@scottab36]

As for the connectivity, maybe delete all of the unused phones from the list. My Android Auto experience is exactly opposite of yours. Holding down the power button of the head unit for about 5 seconds resets it. The official body type for the Crown Signia is "Wagon". 😉 Thank you for the informative review. I love my Crown Signia Limited.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

Many of the devices are used weekly by the transport drivers. It's weird that some Toyota/Lexus vehicles are dead reliable and a couple have been totally unreliable. The RX I have this week is perfect. This Crown Signia was not 😕.

[@WatchTheJoeChannel]

I would love it if they would stiffen the suspension in a sport mode. I have the XLE and maybe it’s because the dealer put in 40psi. I haven’t had a chance to let out the air while tires are cool. Maybe that will make a difference.

[@johncorman8715]

You weren't disappointed by the lack of a spare tire?

[@CarsMadeSimple]

No, I generally don't mind whatever is included with the vehicle (spare vs tire mobility kit). I have had to use a spare tire once but with new vehicles, typically they include road side assistance for a period of time that would assist in getting the car to a local dealer.

[@springertube]

​@@CarsMadeSimple You obviously haven't been on US 50 in the middle of Nevada or backroad camping? Honestly not trying to be snide here, but there are so many circumstances where some service plan or 800# just doesn't cut it. And you don't have to be Rubicon off-roading for it to be an issue. I was with a friend who got sidewall damage on one of his BMW's 3 Series' run flats. AAA towing to the nearest town 50 mi's, sole service station / tire store didn't have the size. Unplanned overnighting in a remote motel and six hour wait the next day all for lack of a decent spare. Neither BMW nor the tire manufacturers service plans could be of help.

[@AlmaZazz_accordion]

A spare tire is an important issue. Read reports about folks’ experience with tire kits. Terrible. If Rav4 can incorporate a spare, there’s no reason to me why other vehicles, including this one, can’t be engineered to include a spare. This is a deal-breaker for me.

[@Escanor990]

I love everything about the car. I saw it in person as well but dealership window sticker says $59,910k. Left the dealership and went to see Teslas as a Camry owner🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Mirror1973]

Eww Teslas are gross pieces of cr*p awful ride, cheap plastics inside, obnoxious interior rad noise, but you do you

[@Escanor990]

@@Mirror1973 You have a point but Toyota needs to sell cars online as well. I don't want to get ripped off.

[@talldave7799]

Is this the replacement for Venza? It appears like it has the idential size and chassis as Venza.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

Technically speaking, yes.

[@batmama4242]

@@CarsMadeSimple people might think it’s crazy you mentioning the drivers arm door rest and the center consul. I noticed that immediately on my test drive. I wasn’t quite sure where to put my arm.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

@@batmama4242 Exactly! Depending on the vehicle you're coming out of or used to, you notice it immediately.

[@batmama4242]

@@CarsMadeSimple yeah it’s super crazy. And I’ve listened to so so many reviews about so many different vehicles trying to decide. I just wanted to say to you the reviewer, please don’t ever doubt yourself with pointing out something that might seem superficial or insignificant. You never know what listener is out here wondering about that very specific thing. Or worse yet, wish they had heard somebody say something about a weird quirky thing. When you’re paying almost 50 grand for a vehicle these days, you kind of expect a little bit more drive free worry free experience.

[@batmama4242]

@@CarsMadeSimple and since I have your attention, I would like your thoughts: I have test drove and researched the following SUV hybrids. (I have a family of four often we have five passengers and a dog or two. Looking for an SUV. Coming out of two used Toyota over the past 14 years .) Mazda CX 90 -too many serious problems RAV4 hybrid -loud and over priced Honda CRX -loud and overpriced Subaru -overpriced, no hybrid Kia- bad reviews Hyundai- bad reviews/recalls Venza -nice, quiet on my list Outlander PHEV- I like it many little things people don’t like about it that I’m concerned about. I might be signing on the data line soon, seems more reliable than the other options, minus Toyota, and Honda, of course, but some of the minor complaints should not exist on a vehicle at this price point. Do you have any thoughts on any of these vehicles that I should be aware of most especially the Mitsubishi outlander?

[@silentpriority]

Ask for a premium but don't delivery full luxury/performance. The Crown ride quality is better/quieter than Crown Signia. Using older hybrid system. Waiting for 2-3 year refresh or face-lift, then this car will be on my shortlist. it's essentially a parts bin car made by Toyota, ridiculously good build quality but with some pretty old but very reliable parts for a luxury price. I think the length also makes it difficult for a lot of buyers. Tried to put the car seat in, rear facing, no problem. Try to put my kid in said seat.... much harder really bad spacing to place a child, my older wagons were better. I disagree with the value offering, when the prime xse is in same range and has some better utility while still have some similar quality. In regards to styling I love the Signia, waiting for refresh or crown sport.

[@michaelhughett8396]

Two things I disliked when I looked at this. One is that I preferred the 19 inch wheels to the 21 inch to get a better ride. But I also wanted the limited trim I had to get a 21 inch wheels. secondly, I thought the cargo capacity behind the second row was very small. After I put my golf clubs in. There is very little space for suitcases and other baggage. Cargo capacity is about 30% smaller than a Subaru outback.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

I would have to compare both side by side but on paper the Crown Signia is about 28% smaller. I believe much of that is lost in vertical height as the Signia slopes more aggressively than the Outback.

[@michaelvella8511]

I don't think it comes with sunglasses holder. Which is a nuisanse thing to ignore this simple add on that's so useful. Also that round foam insert in the back. What is the purpose of it? It's much too shallow to replace with a spare tire.

[@mikejones-rc4lv]

Correct. No sunglass holder. Limited junk space .

[@mikejones-rc4lv]

Can setup an auto lock function on this Toyota. I picked 30 seconds

[@michaelvella8511]

@@mikejones-rc4lv ???????????

[@E_Rice]

First time seeing the Crown Signia's lights at night. Based on your footage, I love the LED lighting at night. Very nice. Do those accent lights light up the ground when once approaches the vehicle?

[@jeffreyerickson6766]

Nice looking guy

[@seacoastlife]

Looks like an expensive station wagon to me...

[@loski1955]

Love the lifted wagon description....

[@sophaman9193]

My 2022 venza hybrid have stargaze roof i can press the button clear or frost plus the shade

[@Mirror1973]

Over $50k plus for a Toyota?! If someone is willing and able to spend past that threshold, why not just go to a Lexus or any other Luxury brand out there?!

[@brandonyen7837]

Nothing is perfect it’s always this and that everyone dislikes 😂

[@springertube]

@@brandonyen7837 The difference is, you are paying the price for perfection. It's understandable that people have gripes about missing features.

[@raymondswenson1268]

I cannot buy the Signia because there is no 12 volt plug for the portable oxygen generator she needs to live. Better research during the design phase would have told them that many people in their target mature demographic have medical devices or spouses with them. Otherwise it would be perfect, but I cannot buy it for that one reason.

[@jsundberg5542]

I like this vehicle but come on people this looks like an updated of the old venza with the new camry front end and the back of the corolla cross😅

[@bwest-yq3uc]

We need to forget the Performance Version. I happy with the XLE and NO sunroof. Why in the Hell no spare tire, how cheap and unsafe is that? Where can one buy a spare tire to fit this vehicle? Thanks Yes on the auto dimming mirrors. The Steering Wheel Does Not raise up high enough to get into easily. Unlike my other vehicles, I own. And the Hood should have shocks to raise it up. The Console with all the apps and having to have a phone in order to drive it. Just trash that garbage and give me knobs and buttons. Yes on the tinted windows.

[@DennisSingleton-vv5el]

My question no Signia review I have read has answered, is the round shaped indention in the back big enough for a donut spare?

[@mostlygibberish]

@@DennisSingleton-vv5el No, the hole is about 4" deep, spare tire usually 5-6" wide. Just tie one to the side of the trunk if you are going on a long trip, I guess.

[@drewVL1]

For Android auto. You must update the app. This will resolve the issue you're experiencing.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

Everything is up to date. I have a Pixel 9 Pro. It's something on the vehicle side.

[@amitahuja7673]

Checkout Nissan Murano 2025 I am baffled by this vehicle

[@michaelhoapili4688]

Nobody wants to spend 65000 for a toyota bigger engine.

[@CarsMadeSimple]

This vehicle is $51,000

[@Escanor990]

Went to see at dealership window sticker says $59,910k. Toyota dealerships are scammer. They added options/packages, fees etc..

[@michaelhoapili4688]

Yeah some still think COVID exists Toyota has gone off the deep end

[@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings-m6x]

@@CarsMadeSimpleonce you add tax, title, destination and dealer fee it’s nearly a $65k 4 cylinder car. No thanks.

[@jsfbay1]

I was extremely disappointed when Toyota said the Hybrid Max wasn’t going to be available. Enough that I won’t buy it. I am hoping that a platinum trim will bring the hybrid max in those other options that are missing that you pointed out. And thank you for pointing those out because nobody else has pointed them out. I subscribed because of it.

[@amitahuja7673]

Boring colors Noisy engine No out of box features 😂

[@lylehaas7768]

It's a piece of crap compared to the Avalon

[@coreanstacker5427]

I test drove Crown Signia. Then, I said good-bye and thanks to the salesperson. I ended up choosing a different vehicle.😀

[@treyjohnson3230]

Lol😂 well damn

[@treyjohnson3230]

​@coreanstacker5427 😂😂 damn it's that bad

[@coreanstacker5427]

@@treyjohnson3230 Yep. It was disappointing. It's still better than VW though.😀

[@batmama4242]

@@coreanstacker5427what did you choose⁉️

[@jaywho476]

The is usually pronounced Thuh, not Thee.