Lots of vernier caliper experts in the comments! "Jason, you don't know what you're doing away from a whiteboard!" While partially true, whiteboards are my safe space, I know how to use a caliper haha. The reason I'm not using the other end of the caliper (as demonstrated at 10:48, when measuring a glass gap) is because even though it's plastic, it'd be enough to scratch the paint if I wasn't super careful with it. Easier to hover over it, get it as close as possible (with my eyes, not the camera you're watching from), and not worry about scratching the areas I'm measuring. That cool? Find your next ride here! www.autotempest.com/
@andrewdc16 жыл бұрын
You're doing an incredible job 👌love your videos
@robwhiff34116 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained Wow that’s crazy , well good thing they got you covered .. hope you have a safe and wonderful Christmas holiday 🙂 much blessings for you and your love ones .. even though I don’t work on cars my main hobby is collecting fragrances as I have my own channel on here KZbin I just enjoy watching your videos because I learn a lot and have a heavy love cars and I and also DIY guy .. cheers
@DantesDentist6 жыл бұрын
I don't care who you are, if you're spending good money on a new car from ANY manufacturer this kind of quality is unacceptable.
@trbjrnjnssn6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained I saw no problem with the measuring, obvious to most thinking people. But if you are worried about scratching, might not wanna do what you did when you showed the different in bumper vs hood. Because your nails, how smoothed they may be, will make scratches. To small to see easy, but they are there. And that paint job is so beyond unacceptable. All the scratches you showed was all of them way beyond ok. As someone who often put ceramic coating on new cars, I would say the orange peel is the norm now a days. But those canyons through the paint thankfully is not.
@tonyeclau6 жыл бұрын
Good job Jason. I certainly think that the paint and gap quality are not acceptable. Nothing compared to Toyota and Honda cars I owned in the past.
@alanhassall6 жыл бұрын
It is actually very considerate of Tesla to put the first scratches on the car so that you don't have to. That first scratch can really ruin your day.
@EngineeringExplained6 жыл бұрын
Haha, so true, first scratch is THE WORST!
@VampirusX6 жыл бұрын
Soooo... congrats. One fear prevented 😂😂
@yourtechstation6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Tesla has a rock chip option for the front bumper/frunk? The first one on my new car sucked. But seriously get a clear bra after paint correction lol
@LuckRenewal6 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@roco95046 жыл бұрын
You know... you got a point there lol xD
@fahimmosharrof72096 жыл бұрын
Don't worry the paint will be fixed in a software update
@PaddyMcQueen6 жыл бұрын
Fahim Mosharrof Ratul big lol
@AM-sx7zi6 жыл бұрын
U can buy a bicycle and stfu.
@whorutothink6 жыл бұрын
@@AM-sx7zi You can cry a little harder.
@Cerberus9846 жыл бұрын
@@Grunchy005 It was an enclosed trailer nice try deflecting flaws from the factory. Also, orange peel is impossible to cause post production.
@dudtspeed6 жыл бұрын
@@AM-sx7zi no sense of humor at all huh, moron.
@chrisfix6 жыл бұрын
Soapy Wooder fixes everything! Knees hurt, soapy wooder. Tesla with scratches, soapy wooder. Engine not running, soapy wooder.
@EngineeringExplained6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, wooder wooder wooder!!
@luismontoya59736 жыл бұрын
Another amazing cross over :)
@AkainekoRdm6 жыл бұрын
We would say the same thing about drinking water in the Army. This cracked me up :D (Stay Hydrated!)
@moldoveanu86 жыл бұрын
Hey, you got some awesome helpful videos on your channel btw, 😉 keep it up.
@saddestchord76226 жыл бұрын
Glad you are still with us, Chris Fix.
@Apopjak5 жыл бұрын
Hey man im working in manufactury, we re assembling audi q8/q7 touareg and believe me if some car go out of factory like your one, lot of bosses would be fired
@Shithead634 жыл бұрын
Best regards from Wolfsburg to Bratislava. 👍
@JB-np9vr4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Audi Neckarsulm
@Aikaramba124 жыл бұрын
Andrew Popdžek my 2017 Audi A6 was full of paint defects, and horrible panel gaps brand new from factory. My Model 3 had noe issues at all. Checked the paint thickness, and it was okay. 2019 Model 3. I believe the earlier ones had som issues
@Bonswally4 жыл бұрын
@@Aikaramba12 I don't believe you...
@Aikaramba124 жыл бұрын
Bonswally it’s not 100% perfect, but better than the A6 i had.
@electronicsNmore5 жыл бұрын
You have every right to complain when you spend a lot of money on something.
@directorbeau5 жыл бұрын
Tesla should repaint the vehicle at no cost.
@13thbiosphere5 жыл бұрын
3 weeks ago you were raving how great your new model 3 is
@electronicsNmore5 жыл бұрын
@@13thbiosphere Me? I don't own one!
@yoyodynepropulsion.systems5 жыл бұрын
I know there are a lot of complaints with regards to these things with Tesla's, but I am curious to see what other $50K cars are like now. Much like the Ford Pinto of the 70s, turns out, statiscally they were no worse for exploding than any other car on he road...are other $50K cars as scratched up and screwed together the same or is this average for a $50k car?
@LeDuckDuckGoose5 жыл бұрын
@@yoyodynepropulsion.systems Yup because everything gets rushed to make and save a few bucks.
@sports4eva1156 жыл бұрын
huge Tesla fan here with a RWD LR 3. Completely unacceptable on Tesla's part to deliver cars like this. A lot of people say that caring about these blemishes is petty and that we should just enjoy the car. If Apple were to sell you a phone with scratches on the glass and body, would you accept it or ask Apple for another new phone? That's a ~$1000 purchase. A Model 3 is >$45000.
@simonj486 жыл бұрын
likewise, if you sent your car into a bodyshop to get a car *repaired* with new paint you'd not find this workmanship acceptable either, and this car is supposed to be new not a repair job.
@EngineeringExplained6 жыл бұрын
I think that's a fair point!
@MrMW2nd6 жыл бұрын
Apple is worth way way more as a company than tesla. They have more resources for qc
@miawgogo6 жыл бұрын
@@MrMW2nd and apple dont seem to be using those resources, the new ipad being one big example, putting a hole in the metal of a large device tends to weaken it
@georgecupac12026 жыл бұрын
I like your logic
@wever50775 жыл бұрын
If I'm paying $45-50k for a new car it had better be constructed to at the very least the standard of a Subaru Crosstrek ($21k).
@twoeightythreez4 жыл бұрын
Or even a Nissan Versa. My 1994 Caprice Classic wagon has better panel fitment and the original paint has less scratches in it.
@KrazyKrzysztof4 жыл бұрын
nah bro if you're paying 50k for a new car, it better have the quality of a toyota or honda
@A.Clifton4 жыл бұрын
I spent half that and got a used Challenger R/T. Half the price, twice the fun.
@KrazyKrzysztof4 жыл бұрын
@Gus Goose ok bro name brands better than Toyota and honda
@theangrygamer8954 жыл бұрын
@@KrazyKrzysztof your all wrong 50k here will get you a nissan gtr. Which is a far superior vehicle to this.
@libengazi4 жыл бұрын
All these flaws are not acceptable to my standards, so you are doing a pretty good job pointing them out.
@greatmaster99996 жыл бұрын
Completely unacceptable, no whiteboard in the video.
@Sekushiwolf6 жыл бұрын
I feel like he should just have an obligatory small white board with something witty on it in every video no matter now insignificant it may be.
@snazzy6 жыл бұрын
Tesla fan and a Tesla owner. Completely unacceptable. I have the Multi-Coat Pearl White on my Model 3 Performance. Paint job is nowhere near as bad as yours, but it still sucks and the paint is soft. It’s their biggest problem right now. They need to get it fixed ASAP. Unacceptable in any new vehicle-especially not one that has a $2,500 paint job.
@EngineeringExplained6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@nic.d75396 жыл бұрын
as a qualified autobody tech, the panel gaps, roof glass gaps and paint are totally unacceptable! I would expect to lose my job over quality like this Jason. Tesla need to rectify this asap.
@Jasona19766 жыл бұрын
Shoulda bought CHEVY!!
@AakeTraak6 жыл бұрын
@@Jasona1976 Chevy? You have a low bar.
@alfredoibarra98256 жыл бұрын
blame it on new EPA resticions on chemicals allowed in painting.
@paostrowski6 жыл бұрын
The paint flaws are unacceptable, especially the trapped debris under finished paint and the scratches thought the clearcoat into the paint.
@CloitSirron6 жыл бұрын
Thats more common than you might think. ;) But most people just don't look for it or simply don't care. We had two on our VW Passat and one on our Audi A4. I worked in the quality control department for a huge steel company a few years ago and debris can also be fragments from the steel plate manufacturing process. As an automotive supplier, the company actually had different quality specs for different automotive companies while Toyotas requirements were the strictest. We had to destroy/recycle several coils because of minimal flaws within the steel plates.
@westjeffshipping75686 жыл бұрын
Yeah vehicles need to go through routine inspections throughout the manufacturing process, nobody saw the blemishes after applying the paint or while applying the clearcoat? Ridiculous. It could be because Tesla has been known to treat workers poorly and most auto manufacturers are only concerned with saving manufacturing costs and getting cars built as quickly as possible, so instead of that worker lowering his average time to complete his work he just didn't mention it.
@sic22l6 жыл бұрын
Inspections? No, they're too expensive. Cars go straight from the drawing board to the factory and then straight to the customer. No expenses inbetween.
@iu26 жыл бұрын
@@CloitSirron You're comparing Tesla's quality with another carmaker that is just as bad. Doesn't help your argument.
@djkonflikt7136 жыл бұрын
Some of it could have been during loading or unloading on the truck or during transport. They always move your car if they need to unload something else.
@MoonLiteNite5 жыл бұрын
if i was buying a used car and saw panel gaps like that, i would think the car was involved in a crash and was repaired...
@dustinpdx5 жыл бұрын
Chris Banana My truck was involved in a big crash and repaired and it’s not that bad.
@dw28435 жыл бұрын
lmao my dad was a panel beater and would wince if he saw this video
@nickkrikorian57804 жыл бұрын
Dodge has the worst
@putonewhiskey4 жыл бұрын
You can see how bad they are built when they drive by...
@Zirion1234 жыл бұрын
@@putonewhiskey ye here in norway there are tons of them and they basically lose theire paint in 1 winter
@JesseArt6 жыл бұрын
I worked on a Honda assembly line for a few years on the first section of the trim line, meaning we received the vehicle bodies right after the paint section. These scratches are absolutely unacceptable and should have been EASILY caught either by employees down line or by QA employees at the end of the line. At Honda, we wore uniforms and boots without any exposed metal pieces and were required to cover all panels with large protective covers immediately after receiving the bodies from paint. These covers remain on the body throughout the rest of the manufacturing process. Having seen video footage of Tesla's factories, I know they also use these coverings, so I wonder WHEN these scratches might have occurred. It's clear that their paint application is definitely sub par quality out of the gate in this case, especially with that captured dust particle. But those scratches, I would assume, must have come later perhaps in storage or even in transit to you, the customer. Perhaps, that's why you received it so quickly even. Maybe it was in storage waiting for a buyer in unsatisfactory conditions? I don't know though. Those driver side scratches look like they could have been caused by someone getting in and out of the cab with metal on their person or maybe rubbing from a pneumatic drill hose or something on the assembly line. OnTrim line 1 (Honda), we removed the doors and sent them off to a separate line so that it was easier to enter and exit the vehicle body without scratching it. I wonder if Tesla has a similar manufacturing process.
@lawrencey0y6 жыл бұрын
I would return the car back with that many defects. With 22 miles, I would think it might be returned by another customer previously therefore the quick delivery.
@Poker-is8dt6 жыл бұрын
Did you work at Honda in anna or Marysville,oh?
@JesseArt6 жыл бұрын
@@Poker-is8dt I actually worked at the East Liberty Plant right down the road from the Marysville plant on 33. When I was there, we assembled the CRVs, RDXs, and those horrible Accord Crosstours. I left to go back to school and finish my BA around the time they started production on the NSXs in another building onsite. I would have loved to have been a part of that team, but the application process required like 20+ years of experience with the company to even be considered, and I was one of those lowly temps making half as much money doing the same exact work as the full-timers. I thought about going back now that I have my degree in Japanese, Spanish and Linguistics, but the work culture was pretty toxic on the ground level when I was there. I don't really want to work for a corporation that doesn't seem to care about its employees. I do miss those shutdowns though, even though we didn't get paid.
@HaloHamstur6 жыл бұрын
I'm willing to bet all the scratches are from the shipment of the vehicle.
@irsansaputraris6 жыл бұрын
@rasterops1083 same with my thought
@BigBawMcGraw6 жыл бұрын
You're right to complain otherwise Tesla will think that it's owners will think it's an acceptable compromise for driving an EV. It's an expensive car, it should look and feel like one.
@Zankaroo6 жыл бұрын
When your average truck in America cost $30,000-$60,000 new a $46,000 car is not expensive specially when the higher luxury brands are $40,000-$80,000. the average new car price in the US is $36,000, expensive would be $60,000 plus, cheap would be $25,000 or less. And is coming from a person who payed $40 for a truck that got me through high school and a few years after before being sold for $400 and then bought a car for $1,400. That being said, the gapping should be better though gap quality can be considered nitpicking, but the paint has zero excuses for that even leaving the factory. The one dust particle I can see being left in but all those scratched are horrid and should have been repainted. But Tesla is handling it.
@MattGarcyaDC6 жыл бұрын
It's not worth the price imo.
@Zankaroo6 жыл бұрын
@@MattGarcyaDC This is fine, I like Tesla but I wouldn't buy any but the roaster. Though personally I would rather just buy another Fiero or an MX-5 or MR2 and convert them to electric.
@GOAE77776 жыл бұрын
A very large majority of people are still accepting delivery though. Pointing out the defects may not necessarily make Tesla focus on them, as the vehicles are still selling, but one can hope.
@abioqaas6 жыл бұрын
Awful paint quality. Some scratches on clear coat are ”normal” due to transportation and dealership wash and such things. But scrathes going through clearcoat and even down to base paint is not acceptable.
@chlehqls6 жыл бұрын
Aslan Abioqa That and that huge dust bubble painted over with the clear coat is a huge red flag.
@miyabe_k1956 жыл бұрын
USA standard ^^ Thank god ttip didn't get through or we'd be on the same low standards
@atourdeforce6 жыл бұрын
Scratches are normal but 90% of cars delivered are unscratched. That being said what's not normal is for a dealer not to check the car or for a dealer not to bother repair the damages and imperfections, once it gets delivered to them to give to the customer. Once its at the dealer they should be reparing them or sending them back, not giving them out to their customers in this state. As I promise you this damage wasn't done on the journey from the dealers to the buyer.
@abioqaas6 жыл бұрын
atourdeforce exactly. I took delivery of a new Seat Leon this year and the dealer proactively found a scratch and repainted one panel before I even saw the car.
@CagriAkpak6 жыл бұрын
@@abioqaas Wouldn't that make it look like that panel had an accident and repaired? Because of the difference in the thickness of the paint.
@sirraymondluxuryyacht81315 жыл бұрын
I'd love a Tesla but I'd feel sick if I paid that much for a car and it arrived from the factory with such a terrible paint job
@CroIntr00X5 жыл бұрын
could he reject car upon delivery and personal inspections? does he have a right to complain to Tesla so they could fix (eventually repaint problematic panels)?
@matthewnorris60825 жыл бұрын
@@CroIntr00X Yes, and he should have.
@ErikHarris5 жыл бұрын
The scratches were probably from mishandling during transportation, as opposed to factory errors, but overall, I agree that this is an especially poor example of Model 3 build quality. I might have declined to take delivery on this vehicle until they either addressed all of the issues or delivered a different one to me. My slightly older Model 3 is in much better shape than this.
@Thomeeno5 жыл бұрын
@SUPERBOOM777 Lets say, why not, if it is electric and working... But what's wrong with Tesla's is the basic thing - about it is huge high powered luxury sedans working as first battery cars. I dont want 2 tons heavy piece of poorly painted battery rack. It's not usefull - why we through dawn of the battery age are doing this heavy crap? I like the way BMW or VW does the electricity as VW e-golf is small hatchback with range about 300 km but half capacity of batteries. I already read complains on Tesla's from others EV owners about Tesla's with their huge batteries are blocking charging terminals for too long, while BMW's and VW's are charged in 10 - 15 min's etc.... I like electric vehicles, but sadly it is not just about electricity - electrification goes through lowering of weight and changing our habits....
@mikeworkman35935 жыл бұрын
You'd feel sick? You clearly have your priorities out of whack.
@DarrenBoxhall5 жыл бұрын
Im a tradesman Automotive Painter. That paint finish is what I would expect from a quick in and out respray for a car yard. I would be sick trying to sleep at night if I knew I had painted that and it went to the customer.
@eternaldamnation21795 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your ethic.
@wildkatsailing5 жыл бұрын
your not a production line painter.
@graphguy5 жыл бұрын
and for a $2000 premium charge making this a $70k car (with autopilot)...yikes.. crap QA
@silverp85plus775 жыл бұрын
@@graphguy its a 60k car when loaded.. schmuck!
@amisgohome5 жыл бұрын
yes and as a customer I would be furious and sleepless
@WarpedYT6 жыл бұрын
Tesla's quality Control department is the consumer....lol
@chevyfan0296 жыл бұрын
Warped Perception consumers are the beta testers
@WarpedYT6 жыл бұрын
@@chevyfan029 very true!!. a friend of mine recently waited a year for a model 3, she just received it about a week ago, it's the all-wheel drive version. She's only had the car for about 1 week and the headlights and taillights are condensing and puddling water... I felt bad for her, I told her "oh my God look at all this water inside the tail lights", she had no clue until I told her. It kind of ruined the new car experience for her, she paid $55,000.
@jaydumon27846 жыл бұрын
@@WarpedYT she probably just needs to top off her blinker fluid.
@Bad_handle6 жыл бұрын
@@jaydumon2784 lol
@jakes_on_a_plane6 жыл бұрын
Like something you'd buy from a furniture clearance warehouse... what happened to your quality parameters tesla?
@69drummerdude6 жыл бұрын
As a former painter of the (then) Volvo carplant in Holland I have to say that that paintjob is unacceptable, if it is not a transport damage isue. The spec of dust should have been noticed and fixed and the orangeskin should have been rejected. Full stop. As for the panelgaps, they are the canary in the coal mine: it is not the gap perse, it's the inconsistency. Those panels were put on the car by different people (mostly) or at least on different workstations. How well they align shows how well the whole system is calibrated. If the panels don't align who is to say that the wheels, axles, brakes, seats and every other part aligns with the rest of the car. This shows VERY poor building quality.
@alladin13146 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Arby6316 жыл бұрын
69drummerdude Mmm Volvos. Loved my white 02 S60.
@vomdeich10116 жыл бұрын
Agreed - this is not industry standard of today. Looks like Tasla praxis the same level of professionalism Italian an British car manufactures had in back the 70's
@testusername30005 жыл бұрын
I visited the toyota factory in japan - that car would never have made it out of the factory in that condition - I bet it wouldn't have even been assembled with panels that poorly painted!
@Coffmanantics4 жыл бұрын
Toyota has insane quality controls
@Fitness1955 жыл бұрын
The paint quality is 100% unacceptable. That car is the same money as a Lexus and let me tell you Lexus would not let that kind of stuff leave the delivery truck
@teej56195 жыл бұрын
True that
@seeno15 жыл бұрын
Delivery truck? That Lexus wouldn’t leave the paint booth period.
@highrollaXRS5 жыл бұрын
it wouldnt even get on the delivery truck
@DIsmayedConfuse5 жыл бұрын
I paid $595 for the metallic paint option for my Audi, and it's flawless. So, no, I would not accept this.
@Fantasticxbox5 жыл бұрын
They would let it in the delivery truck but sell it with a reduced price.
@JohnmillerPowerlifting6 жыл бұрын
I have to say that If I i bought a brand new car at any cost I would not accept that car if it had the paint damage that your car has.
@Tony-nl6pf6 жыл бұрын
Preach, leave that for me to scratch up after a month of being extra careful then saying what the hell.
@DerpypawsProductions6 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's just unacceptable. Kind of amazed.
@DILINGER06 жыл бұрын
But any other car hasn't the fanatic factor that most of Tesla buyers have.
@dannydaw596 жыл бұрын
It makes me wonder why Jason even signed the delivery slip to begin with. Don't accept a car with scratches.
@ar053x6 жыл бұрын
@@dannydaw59 it's paint......... lol, not a deal-breaker.....
@Owen19046 жыл бұрын
I’m a Tesla fan but that paint job is just unacceptable.
@jounivalkonen6 жыл бұрын
any car will get scratched if a youtuber scratches it to make a hate-video. And earn sizeable clickbait revenue. Of course, you make more money by scratching Tesla than scratching any other car out there.
@revup856 жыл бұрын
@@jounivalkonen oh did he put dust in the paint as well....
@Juntasification6 жыл бұрын
@@jounivalkonenTesla's quality problems are well known . Älä Tesla fanipoika puhu paskaa!
@jounivalkonen6 жыл бұрын
probably. it is rather easy to fake it out. Especially if Autotempest is one of his main sponsors and they for sure have knowhow how to fake paint defect. You cannot buy Tesla cars via Autotempest.
@ackables6 жыл бұрын
@@jounivalkonen the world isn't a big conspiracy
@ChadHaviland5 жыл бұрын
Those are just burns from re-entering the earth's atmosphere.
@coolfred90835 жыл бұрын
Imagine they somehow managed to get the roadster out of space and sold it, it would be most expensive car every! (Except for it wouldn't be possible to do so)
@coolfred90835 жыл бұрын
@Tom Reed How? Please don't tell me you're a flat earther! Like, evidence?
@coolfred90835 жыл бұрын
@Tom Reed So you are a flat earther. Seriously?
@ricktaylor140015 жыл бұрын
LMFAO!! Well done!🤣
@taiundoo84355 жыл бұрын
@Tom Reed shrooms obviously
@johnmoon38486 жыл бұрын
Jason, In my opinion, I'd agree that it's unacceptable. I look forward to hear how Tesla resolves the issues and how satisfied you may be. Please do a follow up. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a great New Year! 🎄
@dannyjohnsonsgarage6 жыл бұрын
You are not over-reacting. You paid for a new car. With Tesla’s policy to send cars out this way and save on dealerships, this is part of their problem to solve. I would refuse to pay full price for a product that is not 100% complete. You are paying for a new car, not a used one with wear and tear
@Killerpixel116 жыл бұрын
Good thing for them the truck is built the way it is, so you can't get a proper look at the car. I would've denied to accept the delivery before they even offloaded it if it looked like this.
@AscendedSaiyan36 жыл бұрын
The key is that it will be fixed, just as any dealership would. So, please don't try to use the dealership defense. NO ONE in their right mind LIKES what dealerships are and have been for decades!
@t.k.morris6 жыл бұрын
I would certainly return the car to them if you spent your own money to buy it. I ordered two new Chev Caprice SS back in 1996 and both came in to the dealership with several defects. I only ordered one at a time but refused acceptance of the first one due to several defects and then ordered the second one in a different color and the dealership called me and told me that I wouldn't be happy with the way it arrived either so I bought a different brand car that year. Chevrolet has always been a lower quality brand car but compared to other brands usually a less expensive brand to buy. Tesla not being a cheap brand should be expected to have a better quality about them. We all need to cast votes with the money we spend with car manufacturers and not accept less than standard quality for expensive autos.
@austinflavio34576 жыл бұрын
Seriously I bought some mid range washer/dryer set from Samsung. They where delivered in cardboard boxes, and inside the boxes they had that blue protective film on all the stainless steel panels. How come mundane appliances have plastic film to protect from damage and up market cars don't?
@AscendedSaiyan36 жыл бұрын
@@t.k.morris Are you forgetting that his Tesla will be fixed? Are you also forgetting that he will have an upgraded Tesla for the ENTIRE time the vehicle will be gone? Remember, no mass automakers is perfect. What matters MOST is how yhese things are handled. I think it is being handled better than MOST, if not all, dealerships networks.
@BaguetteHD6 жыл бұрын
Orange peel left on an entire panel with factory paint job? Dust speck under paint in the middle of a panel gone unnoticed? Scratches on multiple panels that look like they've happened before the panels were even mounted onto the frame? Yikes. You wouldn't even accept that from an aftermarket paint job.
@dasppg97376 жыл бұрын
Just had my car painted in a shop and it looked better than this. I’d expect much more out of a factory paint job
@BaguetteHD6 жыл бұрын
@rasterops1083 I bet the majority of units go out with 0 paint defects, but to suggest that this one popular KZbinr happens to have gotten the only bad example to leave the factory is absurd. The dust particle is arguably excusable, clean rooms can only be so clean and if you're spending all day looking at painted panels as your job i can understand you might accidentally glaze over an imperfection on 1 piece, but those scratches are a joke. See how the scratches on the bumper follow round the curve? They were there before it was put on the car, that's been knocked over or stacked stupidly or some such - this means that not only does the person that caused it not care enough to get it sent back to have it prepped and repainted, but whoever mounted it onto the car didn't care either, and let's not even consider whether a pre delivery inspection was conducted on it. This is a failure at multiple links in the chain. Either a lot of people hate their jobs, or internal standards are low. Both are concerning.
@BaguetteHD6 жыл бұрын
@お前はもう死んでいる Je m'appelle pain au chocolat
@BaguetteHD6 жыл бұрын
@@dasppg9737 I just spent 6 months in a bus painting workshop and on non-white jobs you needing to "flatten" EVERY reachable flat and convex surface or the orange peel sticks out like a sore thumb. It's shocking that they'd cut corners here despite clearly having machinery capable of making light work of it.
@GGP396 жыл бұрын
@@BaguetteHD I am an engineer at Tesla. People do hate their jobs. Shitty pay, low morale...
@jean-phil5 жыл бұрын
maybe Elon should watch KZbin instead of Twitter ;)
@FeartheFester5 жыл бұрын
if he did he would suddenly come up with a revolutionary idea of hypertubex a new video streaming platform
5 жыл бұрын
@@FeartheFester It'd never line up with anything though.
@piotrnapora58104 жыл бұрын
If he could stop being high for long enough
@asdfghjqwertyu18583 жыл бұрын
New Honda's have trash fit and finish. My dad's 2010 Civic has less rattles, more even panels, and the gaps are more narrow versus my 2020 Civic. I have also seen new Acura RDX and TLX with very similar fit and finish issues on the exterior like my car. I really hope Honda cars do not end up like Tesla, because if they do, I will definitely look at another car brand when I trade in my Civic.
@ChavezDIY6 жыл бұрын
Definitely fair to bring up these issues. Helps them make a better car.
@The_Totorus6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact... they can't!
@The_Totorus6 жыл бұрын
Do you really think TSLA is disrupting the automobile industry by producing high quality cars in a tent? I'd spent considerable time in researching this stock and its products and I would be more than glad to share my findings with you via email or your preferred choice of communication @@SolRC
@The_Totorus6 жыл бұрын
We'll then enlighten me on the productions problems. Why would a company infamously known for bad quality cars, a company with the highest rework rate in the auto-industry be capable of improving if they haven't been able by now? Or is this also jibberish because it goes against the cult of Elon Musk? I'll invite you to read the Tesla Motors Club forum and search Twitter and Facebook and you'll see the myriad of customers complaining about problems like the ones in this video and other even bigger technical and safety issues. @@SolRC
@The_Totorus6 жыл бұрын
You started by calling my comments jibberish and saying that my grasp of facts is poor, but never mind. I'm talking about the quality of Model 3's and you say I'm saying nothing. Do you not understand the meaning of cars having rework after leaving the main production line? You may claim you know about engineering and manufacturing but I'm still waiting to see an actual argument defending your stance. @@SolRC
@TechInspected6 жыл бұрын
That paint quality is atrocious.
@TheFPSPower6 жыл бұрын
the clear coat is basically non-existent
@kakashi999086 жыл бұрын
You can tell how shallow the scratches are yet it gets to bare metal. Wax/seal or ceramic coat this paint frequently if you want it to last
@Mr.Lambert7776 жыл бұрын
I work at a car manufacturing facility, and I work with engineering and maintenance in the paint department. That said , our goal is to send out good quality. We’ve had issues with dirt in the paint, metal birds , clear paint sags, e-coat primesand spits, Our department has shut down other departments such at trim and chassis to fix some quality issues. Looking at your video it appears to me that this paint mutilation with all the fine scratches and deep cuts probably came from the next department called trim and chassis. You also have some fitting issues with the body. Teslas’ stamping and body department engineering needs to either check quality a bit more before shipping it to the next department, because I’ve seen offset gaps in the body in my department before the car is actually painted. My team calls out the Bodyshop department and we perform a trace back procedure to find out how many units have those offset gaps , and also they need to check with their suppliers who makes the doors if they don’t make their own doors ,and other parts to see if they’re manufacturing defects. These inexcusable defects you’ve pointed out should’ve been VES calls all V1! Sorry for using manufacturing technical terms.
@rangegod986 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you should be telling all these people about VES and telling them you've shut down T+C because of your quality concerns. Especially as you have a Nissan as you profile pic..
@emjoneshouseDIY6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's not just Nissan. All manufacturers go through this continuous "find and fix" management. It is very normal for manufacturing and never stops. Just as soon as you "tune" a process another process shows itself and your on to the next problem. The end goal is to make sure a product can go from one end of the assembly line to the other and out the door without ever moving backwards. Its difficult for any manufacturer. And just because he has a Nissan in his pic does not mean he works at a Nissan plant. ;)
@Juxen40216 жыл бұрын
I was a corporate auditor at Mitsubishi, and the dirt in the paint at 5:55 would have gotten a call to the paint department. The scuffs would have been marked up to probably trim. The amount of stuff they let through on this car is staggering.
@sebastiansaxon6 жыл бұрын
Reading your comment was super interesting.
@C0mmander6 жыл бұрын
I am an engineer working for a large german premium manufacturer. Normally I would be very skeptical seeing all these flaws in a brand new car straight from factory, but since I saw similar and worse problems with my own eyes in case of a Model S with a listed price > 170K, the claims made in the video appear to be plausible. For a car with so many defects to leave the factory their QC processes have to be utter trash or non existent. Not to mention that many of the issues shown would never even occur in our plant as processes have been setup in preventive ways. Even if so, a car like this would never leave the factory. And with this staggering amount of defects, heads would roll for sure. As for the panel gaps, I have personally seen Tesla's that are even worse, but this one is bad enough already. We have very narrow tolerances for gap offsets and use the latest measuring and production technologies available. It's still not an easy task, but in Tesla's case the entire manufacturing process has to be flawed, not just some sections. Measuring another car will result in vastly different offsets, still way out of their supposed tolerances. It's not just a specific part that is out of spec or a machine that isn't calibrated. There is a randomness at play that - if I had to guess - stems from a mixture of human error and poor structural body design with regard to best assembly practices and an overall rushed or non existent QC.
@TheCyternitas5 жыл бұрын
if you told me this was a used car, i would say it had crash at some point
@steelwarrior1055 жыл бұрын
Same
@putonewhiskey4 жыл бұрын
Totally Agree
@appa6094 жыл бұрын
That's not what a crash looks like though
@chillidog87264 жыл бұрын
He means crashed and fixed up but still some internal bending left over so the outside pannels dont sit as flush as with a new car (no ida if that would be realistic)
@piotrnapora58104 жыл бұрын
I have a car that was in a crash (rear ended someone at 30 kph, my fault) and I can confirm
@sbomorse5 жыл бұрын
Your paintwork is totally unacceptable! I'm collecting my own brand new car tomorrow, if it had any paint defects like yours I'd reject it immediately.
@king_dyl5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Bomorse verdict?
@dan4285 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, I wouldn’t accept the car in that condition.. there’s used cars in better shape
@movement2contact5 жыл бұрын
So, how was your paintwork?
@PH-VG5 жыл бұрын
Check out 13:52
@burt5915 жыл бұрын
Don't let us hanging dude how was your car?
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS6 жыл бұрын
That quality from a 50,000 dollar car is unacceptable. I would be PISSED if I had 11:17 on mine.
@larryspiller156 жыл бұрын
His was 46500
@larryspiller156 жыл бұрын
@Anton Zuykov ya but it will get fixed. Corollas have been mass produced for 52 years. They have some slack to pickup but what they are doing is still impressive
@teilzeitteemo61906 жыл бұрын
@@larryspiller15 no. Just no. It doesn't matter if it get fixed some time after you have your car. It's unacceptable at that price point.
@snviper6 жыл бұрын
@@teilzeitteemo6190 I agree. Still gonna buy one. There are no alternatives. Gonna get the black one and a wrap though.
@teilzeitteemo61906 жыл бұрын
@@snviper there are enough alternatives. Just not electric. Electric cars themselves have a hard time getting sold much, it won't be helpful to produce expensive but cheaply made ones. The demand won't be there.
@badpizzadays6 жыл бұрын
You need to relax, the scratches, blemishes and panel gaps are your assurance that your model 3 is indeed a genuine Tesla product.
@EngineeringExplained6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@remytv6 жыл бұрын
It's the "Harley is leaking oil brand new" thing about Tesla
@mobgma6 жыл бұрын
that was a good comment
@ScottHardester6 жыл бұрын
Sort of like the "how do you know your BMW is out of oil? It stopped leaking"
@badpizzadays6 жыл бұрын
Scott H if it ain't leaking it ain't got any!
@glorious_help5 жыл бұрын
If my Mercedes or Audi was delivered in this condition, I would be seriously pissed off..... UNACCEPTABLE PAINT JOB
@brandon65413 жыл бұрын
Frr
@massimo72196 жыл бұрын
Unacceptable in my opinion. I love the car and the tech, but the quality at time of delivery is downright disrespectful.
@brentboswell12946 жыл бұрын
I'd never buy a Model 3, not because of build quality issues, but because Tesla sees it fit to not put a speedometer and charge meter in front of the driver's face (where it belongs), and not being able to adjust the radio/sound/etc and the climate control without going through menus.
@JimNortonsAlcoholism6 жыл бұрын
Elon Musk is a con man
@alatus72426 жыл бұрын
DeLorean comes to mind.
@AscendedSaiyan36 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget this DOES happen with ALL car makers (as any quick KZbin video search will show you). The difference is that the complaints are usually dealt with at a lower level (dealer).
@fatboy198316 жыл бұрын
Brent Boswell you will have many other options in 2020. If what every other manufacturer comes through with their promises.
@blarkdexture88996 жыл бұрын
Big panel gaps are good. No need to open the door for entrance.
@patrickchubey31276 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable, my 1965 Pontiac Strato Chief was put together better than this, and it was the cheapest crappiest model that year. Seriously, looking back, body panel fit was good, no visible problems, and the paint was good too. So, after over 50 years of practice, we can't do as good now?? Boy, sucks to be buying a car in 2018.
@tnutss5 жыл бұрын
who assembled the tesla 3? edward Scissorhand?!
@alfredlyon275 жыл бұрын
Tsung Hung Shen 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@SaschaRissling5 жыл бұрын
they all have to wear wolverine claws at work. including elon. it's what makes working at tesla fun.
@sinephase5 жыл бұрын
probably someone who doesn't work there anymore :P
@tomruth94875 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it happened in shipping, wouldn't think they would let it out of the factory looking like that.
@NOTALIVESTILL5 жыл бұрын
@@tomruth9487 Cars are suppose to be shipped with a manufacturer protective film or cover over it, this is how I took all my Audi deliveries and there is never ever a scratch on any of my cars when delivered. The speck under the clear coat is obviously terrible quality control department from Tesla Factory. I would return that car and ask for a new one.
@261ziggy5 жыл бұрын
You should have refused delivery/possession of the car.
@RAKITHA94 жыл бұрын
261ziggy all cars come with free scratches and panel gaps
@waynenathan26084 жыл бұрын
@@RAKITHA9 its part of personalized package!
@doc.voltold42326 жыл бұрын
Well for starter it has no fuel cap. Big issue.
@sumansamhalder69096 жыл бұрын
Best comment off the lot.
@evan8tor216 жыл бұрын
And an oil fill cap. Smh
@granadakimj6 жыл бұрын
Actually it does. It's just called a chargeport, as far as I know... ;-)
@sumansamhalder69096 жыл бұрын
@@granadakimj So, not a fuel or oil cap. 😆
@granadakimj6 жыл бұрын
@@sumansamhalder6909 So yeah xD
@Pookgai4206 жыл бұрын
The major problem is that Tesla doesn’t do a inspection at the shipping port. For example, BMW has multiple delivery/shipping centers located by major ports in the east and west coast US. Every car that BMW builds wether from Germany or South Carolina goes thru those centers before being train or trucked to your local dealership. Even though BMW does an inspection at the factory they still do a thorough inspection at the delivery center here in the States to catch anything that the factory didn’t catch. Tesla doesn’t do this crucial step. During my tour of bmw’s delivery center, it’s surprising how much repairs are done at there. Paint defects, scratches during shipping, fitment issues, etc.
@alexwoof62706 жыл бұрын
Tesla does have a panel gap and flush control station. The fact that they still ship vehicles in this condition though is unacceptable.
@classikz6 жыл бұрын
Well, if they did that second inspection, they'd have to send back most of the cars back to factory.
@dinobot_maximize6 жыл бұрын
thats nice but BMWs and al lgerman cars dont last mechanically lol so youll have a paper weight with nice paint i guess
@Pookgai4206 жыл бұрын
shin888 that does not happen. If it came to the port with major issues, the car gets scrapped. This was actually one of the questions asked during my tour. BMW says it’s not with the shipping and import fees for the car to go back to Germany.
@jonchen40846 жыл бұрын
@@Pookgai420 shin was replying to alex in reference to the tesla, not the bmw.
@doyle71745 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you accepted that vehicle, terrible quality
@dunuth5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I never left a dealership with something like that, including pre-owned
@machinesandthings71214 жыл бұрын
No dealership with Tesla.
@diesel78064 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even bother to take it for a test drive, I like my cars to be close to perfect it not perfect.
@shanagant4 жыл бұрын
He had to wasit another month if he dont
@georgeswanson6974 жыл бұрын
Machines and Things I’ve seen a dealership in Kopenhagen, Denmark back in 2017
@BehemothsMargarita5 жыл бұрын
Ahaha I worked for them as a Delivery Experience Specialist in '13 and all we did was distract people from the scratched paint job, shoddy finish and missing charging equipment. The kicker was - most people swallowed it without a peep, only the occasional car nut asked if we were crazy. The company consciously exploits the enthusiasm of their fans. Shame to see that that hasn't changed and people like you still have to deal with crap like this. Good luck.
@itsthatbeeguy5 жыл бұрын
I used to work at Toyota. The detail department wouldn't be allowed to send car out like that.
5 жыл бұрын
What about those gold toyotas with different color pannels.
@cytrynowy_melon66045 жыл бұрын
Where you also worked? Probably also your dads works at Tesla and you know they will be bankrupt soon? Because that's how every second hater comment on Tesla is like
@ToWi19895 жыл бұрын
@ that has something to do with the way the metallic particles act on a metal vs plastic part.
@ilovekfc25 жыл бұрын
vtra85 righttt
@camjo_io5 жыл бұрын
it's almost like they haven't been doing this for 80 years
@IIGrayfoxII6 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't see these kinds of issues on a $10,000 car And I love tesla but facts are facts.
@Beowulf956 жыл бұрын
You mean 100,000 $?
@IIGrayfoxII6 жыл бұрын
@@Beowulf95 No. You wouldn't see this on a Mirage which is the cheapest new car to buy. The Tesla Model 3 is around 40k
@DENicholsAutoBravado6 жыл бұрын
Nah, he really means a $10,000 car. I've worked on countless cheap cars which were painted better than this...and I'm talking years later used and maybe abused. @@Beowulf95
@crunch98766 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about... this is the electric equivalent of a 20k car. Which is kinda the lowest priced car.
@IIGrayfoxII6 жыл бұрын
@@crunch9876 Talking about cars in general. The cheapest car you can buy on sale now will have a better paint job.
@greg.anywhere4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw a tesla I was like "damnnn that looks so cool I want one of those, thats clean asf😱😎". When I visited the small showroom, and sat in the interior of the Model S I was severly disappointed. I don't like portrait style screens for 1, and two the material quality and feel was mediocre for a car at an 80K dollar price point. I especially care about what the door clunk sounds and feels like when you close it, and when I closed the door on the model S it felt and sounded tinny and cheap. You don't get a second chance at first impressions. I was completely uninterested when I discovered the reliability and build quality issues as well. Overall they were way to expensive and gimmicky, at that point I'd rather an audi a7, lexus LS, or even 2021 Genesis G80
@Channel8eight6 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to send that car back ASAP. Absolutely unacceptable.
@derek85646 жыл бұрын
I wonder what else is low quality on things he can't initially see like welds and wiring etc.
@sagesends6 жыл бұрын
watch till the end, he says that tesla is taking the car back and giving him a loaner for now.
@Knights2theEnd6 жыл бұрын
This is extremely common with Teslas believe it or not.
@nickb39686 жыл бұрын
@@sagesends I wonder what the odds are that someone who wasn't as prominent on the internet suffering the same fate would get the same level of service.
@tren1336 жыл бұрын
@Error Loading just be glad your Tesla is not like the guy who was driving it home (brand new 3), it started raining, then the rain somehow started leaking into and filling the bumper, then the whole damn bumper cover just fell off!
@ratchet99096 жыл бұрын
1.Well, on the plus side: you dont have to open that left rear door, you can get in through that gap. 2. As we all know, fart mode is available on Teslas. Maybe next year, thanks to a new, updated software , the car will also emit some smell besides the sound. The gaps are there to greatly improve the ventillation of the cabin.
@splay19536 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@andymccabe67126 жыл бұрын
Someone on KZbin with an actual sense of humour......
@midnightmekanik5 жыл бұрын
For a $2500 option, that paint is unacceptable. The orange peel would be an 8-10 (as a comparison, I worked in a place as a QC inspector that painted replacement parts for the big 3, and we could not pass anything more than a 4 for highly visible parts to 6 for less visible). Scale going from 1-15, 1 being the best.
@lilleBoyy5 жыл бұрын
This is unacceptable in any way not just because it's a 2.5k option.
@wildkatsailing5 жыл бұрын
you just like talking about yourself, its obviously not acceptable.
@midnightmekanik5 жыл бұрын
@@wildkatsailing I do, and you read it. Thanks for boosting my ego.
@anthonycasa6945 жыл бұрын
Chrysler's paint is worse... noticeable Orange peel at 10ft... but a 2500 paint job, is exactly that, a 2500 paint job...
@Vizeroy95 жыл бұрын
@@anthonycasa694 Don't buy a Crysler then... this kind of paint job or even assembly quality is completely unacceptable...
@facetiouslyinsolent83132 жыл бұрын
My friend worked for Tesla at the factory in California. On his first actual day of work after spending the first few hours watching videos and getting things set up he was put on the "quality control" line. He was an employee with no experience what-so-ever and he was checking paint for blemishes on the assembly line. He told me he had never been so overwhelmed in his life. He was sweating profusely and he said he couldn't keep up with the line. He asked two people around him what he should be doing and they shot him dirty looks and said nothing. He was worried he was going to ruin someone's future car and being a decent human he quit. It took him years to even tell the story he felt so ashamed.
@Oneness100 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm wondering how good their lighting was too. They need to hire people that have proper training and experience. Especially with a high speed production line.
@superchargedsteve34116 жыл бұрын
Really sad that such an expensive car you have to order online, sight unseen, has so many issues upon delivery. They need better quality control and the owners need to demand it! Thank you Jason for sharing your honest, unbiased experience with a car you purchased!
@joshoa902106 жыл бұрын
Gamer Dad if you order sight unseen you actually have a 3 day return policy. This in no way excuses quality control but if you’re unhappy that option is there. I worked at a multi brand dealership for 4 years as a detailer and I can confidently say no matter the price of the price of the vehicle or the brand defects happen and no car is flawless from the factory.
@superchargedsteve34116 жыл бұрын
@@joshoa90210 the problem with Tesla is that there are so few physical dealerships you can go to for test drives or service. It's a luxury priced brand without any luxury quality or build. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
@joshoa902106 жыл бұрын
Definitely don’t disagree. But they do compensate you quite well if you don’t get a test drive. A 3 day return period on a new car is unheard of.
@raine20056 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Ford, GM, Toyota Dealers receive cars in similar conditions from the factory. They just send them to their detailers to wax out/buff out all the paint defects to the point costumers don't notice it
@sic22l6 жыл бұрын
Expensive? It's actually pretty cheap. It's drivetrain is so ridiculously expensive that they needed to radically cut costs everywhere else, quality included.
@MrSamdabeast6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't care too much for the scratches but for a 2500 dollar paint option I would be pissed. Why 2500? Its not even a nice red
@prabh156 жыл бұрын
sam jam ham mammogram yeah it’s weird. It’s a three stage and it’s so muted. Plus it’s a pain to color match during repairs
@TheBycara6 жыл бұрын
Not only paint, after seeing this fit and finish, I would consider looking Kona and other upcoming options.
6 жыл бұрын
Paint, mainly house paint, has names for all the colors and tints. I agree with you about the red tone. If auto body paint had the same references I previously mentioned, I'd call it hard-on (erection) red.
@Sandwich4206 жыл бұрын
That comment doesn't make sense. You wouldn't care unless you payed extra for the special version? So you would care if you rims were bent unless you got the premium ones? I don't get it..
@krpajda6 жыл бұрын
@@Sandwich420 oh yes because bent rims and tiny scuffs in paint are comparable issues
@Al13n1nV8D3R6 жыл бұрын
A car that is brand new should arrive brand new. This is unacceptable for a brand new Tesla. Doesn't matter if its a Kia Rio or a Rolls Royce. If its new, it should never arrive with scratches. As for panel gap differences, to the untrained eye those panel are not noticable for the average person. But Tesla does need to work on that issue. I own a 2016 Lexus LS460L built in Japan and the panel gaps between left and right is nearly perfect only, .2 mm to .5 mm difference. But my wife's 2018 RX 450H built in Canada is not as good between .7 mm to 2 mm difference.
@Oddman19805 жыл бұрын
I bought a new car in 2017 that cost about 1/3 what this car did... and the paint and panel gaps looked much better.
@jaysmith64665 жыл бұрын
i agree!!! and for the cost of this car the comparison should b between a 3series or a4 or something not a subaru lol im sure that model 3 cost a lot more than a crostrek .. can u even get a $2500 paint option @ subaru????? heh
@Kavi4GP5 жыл бұрын
Al13n1nV8D3R walk around any dealer , you will see flaws
@thebeezlie12425 жыл бұрын
Kavi4 yeah but not scratches or insane panel gaps. Tesla just doesn’t know what they’re doing yet.
@Thiterest15 жыл бұрын
I work for Honda and paint/finish issues are graded by areas. I can say that all of these scratches should've been seen at the factory. It really shocks me to see these kind of errors making it to masspro.
@TheVeljam5 жыл бұрын
5:46 That's not dust Jason, that's a piece of grit or grain. On top of the scratches and overall paint job that is appalling.
@bosevertjan5986 Жыл бұрын
you are right, how could it be dust, it is more substantial
@CMOVlogs6 жыл бұрын
Those scratches are actually pretty atrocious, I would contact Tesla to ensure you get value for money concerning paint work.
@CMOVlogs6 жыл бұрын
Ah! I commented before watching the end of the video, glad you did get in touch with Tesla!
@frothuk6 жыл бұрын
@@CMOVlogs Agree. Those scratches should not be seen by any customer.
@PeytonB6 жыл бұрын
I bought a used car with 15k miles on it, and your car probably has more scratches on it than mine. I don't blame your for complaining about it
@tn15_6 жыл бұрын
No joke my 13 year old Z has fewer scratches than that brand new Model 3
@JimmysTractor5 жыл бұрын
It's a brand new $50,000+ car withan ADDITIONAL $2500 added to an already premium($50,000 car better have a perfect paint job) paint job. It should be 100% perfect.
@brianlee67095 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'd be pissed with all of these scratches.
@chillstar5 жыл бұрын
I bought a 20 year old Mercedes with > 100k miles on the clock for a fraction of what this car cost and the paint was way better than this.
@o0Donuts0o5 жыл бұрын
Were the scratches from the factory or from the delivery chain? Nice of Tesla to handle getting them repaired.
@davidmhh99775 жыл бұрын
I'd personally be pissed if I bought a 10 grand mirage brand new and it had scratches
@devenr62135 жыл бұрын
the rear bumper looked like it was during shipping
@stefanofarnedi56493 жыл бұрын
My respect for automotive engineerings has gine through the roof since seeing this. For such bulk products and such large products a tolerance of 0.75 to 1mm on PANEL gaps is a wonder of modern engineering
@bigkev78 Жыл бұрын
Except for Tesla that is…😉🤣
@swanblake6 жыл бұрын
The funniest problem I heard with Tesla build quality was on the Smoking Tire Podcast where the car had 3 18 inch wheels and 1 19 inch wheel. I'm guessing there is another Tesla 3 out there then with 1 18 inch and 3 19 inch wheels. Yikes
@oddixgames67046 жыл бұрын
it could be any amount of teslas with this 3-1 setup out there :)
@user-os8sq3uh4n6 жыл бұрын
The 4th guy can't lift as much
@manuelcarmo226 жыл бұрын
B.S.!!!
@GrayRaceCat6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear that episode! Have you got the link available to share?
@GrayRaceCat6 жыл бұрын
@@ssflipallday or read the tire size from the sidewall!
@peterpabian6 жыл бұрын
If they end up legitimately addressing all these paint and manufacturing defects then fine but it is alarming that a 50 K car came like this delivered from the factory. The only reason you're getting it repaired is because you are an enthusiast and you took the time to go over the car and note everything down. Most other people would just be excited about getting their new Tesla and just proceed to put miles on it. This should be a lesson to everyone about the importance of inspecting your vehicle upon purchase/delivery.
@kevinloving31416 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately yes people are excited by new technology and yes Henry Ford had production problems with the first Model Ts which was new tech for it's time and yes Ford Motor company sent mechanics everywhere a person bought a model T. But come on it's been ten years, Tesla should of had these production problems solved. I think Musk is spreading himself WAAAAAY too thin. Which hurts the BEV market. Because people will say if I have to spend $100,00+ to get a decent BEV then forget it. People do judge the mechanics of a car especially if it's new tech by the paint job and body panels.
@ABH3136 жыл бұрын
less than 5 minutes into this video and the quality is unacceptable...I would not stand for that...
@isaacsrandomvideos6676 жыл бұрын
Alan Hale on the car or the vid???
@ShanieMyrsTear6 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't have to; Tesla is fixing it. Like all new cars, you are the last stage of QC. Always verify!
@Maples016 жыл бұрын
@@ShanieMyrsTear Yet to deliver a $48,000 car in such condition says a lot now doesn't it, so how many suckers, I mean customers have accepted such poor quality?
@antonzz77275 жыл бұрын
Tesla charges premium money for their cars even tough It's not a premium brand
@hothotheat30004 жыл бұрын
Tesla is all hype. People will pay anything to look “cool”.
@antonzz77274 жыл бұрын
hothotheat3000 exactly
@piotrnapora58104 жыл бұрын
What do you think Teslas should cost? Because, given the quality control (or rather lack thereof) I wouldn't pay more than the price of a decked out Prius Plug-In
@antonzz77274 жыл бұрын
Piotr Napora I would also say that thats a fair price point
@1hard2findbro6 жыл бұрын
*sending your paint and gap fixes over the air* - Elon 😁
@ipdjbt6 жыл бұрын
Your Tesla was definitely built on a Monday.
@mcearl80736 жыл бұрын
Maxey Probably the monday after thanksgiving weekend too. Everyone was fat and tired from the 4 day weekend.
@HaradaTaro16 жыл бұрын
All tesla are built on a monday mood and quality.... just garbage bin on wheels
@fancyIOP6 жыл бұрын
😅😂😅😂🔥😂🔥😂
@gkozak4306 жыл бұрын
And a Friday, when everyone wants to be off lol.
@vripiatbuzoi91886 жыл бұрын
They are all like this. Every day of the week is a Monday for Tesla.
@jindle996 жыл бұрын
I can’t understand how people don’t see a problem here. It’s a brand new vehicle and it’s covered in scratches and imperfections that even my 14 year old Cooper S hasn’t got. That black dot is just awful, it’s as if they don’t even look at them as they send them out, I’d be furious
@pn80246 жыл бұрын
But it's made by Elon Musk! Those scratches are supposed to be there!
@pn80246 жыл бұрын
@ZappoTan how dare you say such wretched things about our Lord and Savior?! Burn!
@iu26 жыл бұрын
It's the same people who gives excuses for Apple's mishaps: Antennagate, Bendgate, and the new iPad Bendgate.
@johngannon6 жыл бұрын
This is unacceptable, but the majority don't have these problems. Mine (and most of the Tesla forums) came with literally none of these issues, I was going to pay to have the paint corrected before wrapping it in PPF but my paint guy said it wasn't needed.
@ralphthemagician6 жыл бұрын
Because there is no problem. This is somewhat normal for cars when they get delivered to the dealership. They often have to detail or repaint entire panels due to transportation damage. His damage is a little more severe, but not crazy. In this case there is no dealership to fix it, but he even said that Tesla was going to take care of it so it really isn’t a problem. The difference is that if you buy a new BMW and you see a scratch you just tell the dealership to fix it. When you get a Tesla you make a KZbin video about it. I bought a brand new Car a few months ago and it had a scratch in the door panel so deep they had to take the whole panel off and repaint it. It’s really not that uncommon.
@KMPvideography5 жыл бұрын
I've learned from your experience and have decided not to buy a Tesla.
@nelson15255 жыл бұрын
Im with ya. Id like to see if quality has lmproved in the last 8 months.
@sviatoslavnovosiadlyi6114 жыл бұрын
nelson I can ensure you it did . He got his car during that insane volume rump up so not it’s way better
@piotrnapora58104 жыл бұрын
@@sviatoslavnovosiadlyi611 No, it hasn't. They still have issues, especially the Model Why
@ReCodeDetro5 жыл бұрын
That 6.8mm gap. Gross. You could fit a smartphone without a case in there.
@SiK_TxBomber875 жыл бұрын
That's what I said about your wife's gap.....
@ReCodeDetro5 жыл бұрын
@@SiK_TxBomber87 Good post buddy. Did it take you the whole week to come up with that one?
@ReCodeDetro5 жыл бұрын
@@SiK_TxBomber87 Whats with you and my non existent wife? lmao
@SiK_TxBomber875 жыл бұрын
@@ReCodeDetro IDK I'm just kidding. Hopefully I got a laugh out of you, at the very least. Have a good day!! Nice to know some people can still take jokes.
@teej56195 жыл бұрын
k then😂..... Soooo that happened^^^....u two alright?
@highrollaXRS6 жыл бұрын
damn your car has more scratches than my 2010 corolla
@jakegarrett81096 жыл бұрын
More than my 05 RX-8 driven by ex-racers and me (I don't know which is worse, haha!)
@dan4285 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just started watching the video but seeing the condition of the paint.. I would return the car. It’s a NEW car the paint should be in new condition. It’s all scratched up?? That isn’t acceptable.. if they discounted the price and made a deal after noting the defects sure but not retail price.
@RiddleTime5 жыл бұрын
He is trolling...
@LGKvideos5 жыл бұрын
The paint with all the orange peel and scratches looks like something I could do in my garage with some spraypaint.
@jeremywright50365 жыл бұрын
You can avoid all these paint issues with the Cyber Truck :D
@SnoqualmieShredder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks but I'd rather not drive an extruded triangle
@jamdc20006 жыл бұрын
You forgot to give it a dougscore
@tips4truckers2526 жыл бұрын
Winner Thissssss is Jason's tesla model 3
@granadakimj6 жыл бұрын
Wrong channel for that, I guess...
@razcue16 жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@Alex6326 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo
@ianferreiraian6 жыл бұрын
Starting with the weekend categories and styling?
@SNESmapper6 жыл бұрын
Good thing you paid a premium of $2.5K for this paint. Can you imagine if it was the free option? haha
@EngineeringExplained6 жыл бұрын
Haha, sand paper special!
@svetarocks6 жыл бұрын
SNESmapper we got black ! It's awesome 👏 no paint chips at all! That's the default!
@artsmith1036 жыл бұрын
@@svetarocks you can have any color you want as long as it's black
@pizzablender6 жыл бұрын
@@artsmith103 You can have any color as long as it's scratch.
@CarlLaberfeld6 жыл бұрын
its called " *used look* ", you just dont get it, its fashion...
@lylestavast76526 жыл бұрын
sort of like torn jeans ? ;)
@OmarTorres6 жыл бұрын
Stone washed
@USARAY19476 жыл бұрын
Soon Tesla will be offering their "Patina" paint option for $3000.
@zorrothebug6 жыл бұрын
👍😂🤣
@Alex6326 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo
@xtheory5 жыл бұрын
Jesus...my Model 3 manufactured in April '19 wasn't anywhere as bad as yours. 3-3.5mm gaps and no paint defects or scuffs. Good to see that Tesla has improved their QC since December '18.
@getl0st5 жыл бұрын
Um, the reason you probably got it so fast is because someone else probably sent it back....
@teej56195 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@JayMaverick5 жыл бұрын
Ouch, savage.
@neilhuband9955 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was being returned to Tesla from the first buyer, and got diverted to EngineeringExplained. Shocking quality control. Makes you wonder about the bits that you can't see, if they can't even get the bits that you can see correct..
@azurplex5 жыл бұрын
Probably rejected at the last delivery.
@Ajandrew1005 жыл бұрын
@@neilhuband995 wise words
@ewenchan12395 жыл бұрын
I work at one of the automotive OEMs in the Southeast Michigan area and these scratches would have never made it through final inspect and would have been sent back for rework. And you can also tell that Tesla (with the differences in their gaps) is struggling with stamping out the various panels and getting all of the GD&T set up properly so that everything would line up properly. We would see this level of dimensional instability/out-of-spec tolerances during our prototyping phase, NOT when the vehicle is delivered to the customer after it's been in production for about a year-and-a-half. These issues would never fly where I work. You might see some of this kind of stuff during the early build phases and ramp-up of production, but after a year and a half, you should be hitting and BEATING your dimensional tolerancing and stability. Can't wait for all the Tesla fanbois who know nothing about working in the auto industry to chime in.
@UIMcocodog5 жыл бұрын
thats interesting that you say it looks like a problem with stamping out the panels. i was just thinking it would be an interesting thing to take one like this and try to adjust everything to make it even. with the goal of seeing if its a assembly problem or a manufacturing problem =]
@SeaJay_Oceans5 жыл бұрын
A Dealership would have rejected it, it would have never made the lot, and never reached a customer. Dealerships ARE their reputation - and a good reputation is worth gold. Selling new cars covered in paint defects and scratches is a No No !
@nickkrikorian57804 жыл бұрын
Those scratches are probably from transit to dealer
@salami994 жыл бұрын
tesla makes great electric motors but yeah, I don't think in 2020 they have fixed this issue. Maybe 2 more years.
@Tony291034 жыл бұрын
@@SeaJay_Oceans Yup, we wonder why Tesla doesn't deal with dealerships.
@Republic3D5 жыл бұрын
Would you accept this on a brand new BMW M3 or an Audi S4? No. So don't accept it on the similar priced Tesla Model 3.
@jubuttib5 жыл бұрын
Not a good comparison, the MSRP of the base M3 is almost double the starting price of the Model 3, and from what I can gather the Model 3 Jason bought was still about 70% of cost of an M3. S4 is a closer comparison. But that paint job is indeed horrid. Panel gaps I can understand, it's hard to get the consistency without years and years of fine tuning the process, but paint is well understood, there's no excuse for what Tesla has done to this example.
@AG.Floats5 жыл бұрын
Similar priced? What you smoking
@Republic3D5 жыл бұрын
Nitpicking. Would you accept this on a brand new (insert similarly priced BMW or Audi here)? No. So don't accept it on the similar priced Tesla Model 3. I'm not smoking. I'm vaping.
@setsunaes5 жыл бұрын
I would not accept this on a toyota...
@MrSpuzzz5 жыл бұрын
R3D the paint blemishes are unacceptable and I’m sure tesla fixed them. But I’ve never taken a micrometer to any car I’ve ever bought. So yeah i guess I would accept the “panel gaps”
@StrongEnough783 жыл бұрын
$2,500 extra for that paint job, it should be FLAWLESS!!! You handled it far better than I would have. I would have been LIVID!
@CashedOutCars6 жыл бұрын
That quality is appalling! I wouldn’t be happy with it at all, especially with the paint option. A new car shouldn’t look like that in my opinion!
@Coty00106 жыл бұрын
CashedOutCars the panels don’t bother me, but the paint really does. I would like a car that isn’t rusting by the time a pay it off. I’d rather just buy it with basic paint and take my $2500 to a paint shop.
@DragoonWarrior7906 жыл бұрын
I agree. Straight off the production line with not even 1 mile driven by the owner. Especially since he put an extra 2.5k for the paint job. The amount of restraint he is showing to stay professional and objective is impressive. I'd be on the phone demanding to speak with the incompetent douche to get this fixed.
@MzClementine6 жыл бұрын
Coty0010 I would hope the company repaints his car for him. Seriously paying for an upgrade paint job and receiving this would be very irritating. My X was into auto body repair. He was amazing. I remember him taking a special glove and giving the whole care a wipe down, the fuzzies in the gloves would grab at anything that wasn’t flush and smooth. He is soooo good at what he does he is booked out months a head, sometimes 6-8 months. He is amazing at his trade. Details is his thing. I can only imagine what he would say about this paint job. The panels would bother me. They should be within decimals of each other as his Subaru had provided proper measurements. That would really irritate me. This is a 50K vehicle, seriously, there should not be such an off measurement.
@MrIzzy54666 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you guys watched the very end but Tesla is going to fix his paint. Other than that, the Panel gaps have a difference of less than 3mm. Is that so bad? My toyota has bigger gaps than that. It sounds like y'all are just looking for things to complain about. Also, super tiny scratches aren't gonna make your car rust any faster coming from a guy that lives in Newfoundland. There is so much salt on our roads during the winter and the bodywork on my Old 2002 Corolla is with tons of scratches on it is still rust free. Underneath is a different story though.
@Mike_Davidson6 жыл бұрын
That chunk of dirt in the paint is huge. 😂😂😂
@proffmongo6 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you didn't spend $2500.00 for the "Yugo" Edition?
@matajsenPL6 жыл бұрын
The scratches are for me totally unacceptable! Gaps between panels hmm not good but doesn't matter. Gap between glass panels not acceptable. You should return that car or not even sign the papers after it arrived in that condition...
@AussieZeKieL6 жыл бұрын
I agree, tesla have good tech, but they are still learning how to put a car together.
@ПрикладнаЕкономіка6 жыл бұрын
@@AussieZeKieL I heard that tesla electric motor start to sing annoying sounds after some use... Old electric motors work for 40-50 years without any issues.
@Baerchenization5 жыл бұрын
@@ПрикладнаЕкономіка I think this is what the analysts meant when they said that Tesla has the build quality of a Korean car from the 90s...
@grodius5 жыл бұрын
gaps maybe, but uneven hood where its flush on one side and not on the other?? very bad, very very bad
@pacojr75072 жыл бұрын
Bought a new Model 3. 1. Paint scratched from transport = Tesla tried to polish it w/o success, had to paint it. 2. Rattles from the rear door = 2 days w/o the car, two faulty locks 3. Rattles from a front door = under evaluation… Great iPad Pro Max with 4 wheels though.
@atourdeforce6 жыл бұрын
That to me is shocking for a new car to have such horrible quality control. The scratches are shocking but the actual clear coat finish is inexcusable. You wouldn't get that bad of a spray job from the Gypsys.
@BobbyDazzler8886 жыл бұрын
made in usa < made in china
@jimmyaber59206 жыл бұрын
A curse on you atourdeforce!
@mattlane22826 жыл бұрын
the company almost went under... lol its shocking to you? They are just trying to stay afloat...
@huehuehue-x3c6 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyDazzler888 please show me which modern cars are painted in china?
@BobbyDazzler8886 жыл бұрын
Ethan Noel bmw, mercedes assemble there, tesla will be in the future. Look it up yourself, please.
@aelaan126 жыл бұрын
The dust speck and the orange peel is clearly a rush job. The scratches are obviously from parking and driving too tight either in the delivery truck or on the temp storage in the factory. Especially the rear bumper shows that the person parking the car was very careless. Back with that thing, it is not something you, as a customer, should have to worry about.
@MuraKun6 жыл бұрын
@Josep Monclús except you... unless your friend is you
@poisonouspython14105 жыл бұрын
I'm not a paint expert, but having owned vehicles of varying quality levels that optional upgraded paint job on the tesla looks thinner and more hastily applied than the worst factory paint jobs I've seen before. Hell, my 21 year old lexus has thicker original paint and clear coat by a significant margin
@psfanboy792 жыл бұрын
LS400?
@kmeccat5 жыл бұрын
OMG very shoddy workmanship all around. I'll pass.
@WarpedYT6 жыл бұрын
The paint on the Subaru looks beautiful, no orange peel there.
@scottreams56206 жыл бұрын
Definitely orange peel on the Subaru. Just quite a bit less. Even brand new Ferraris have orange peel. It's usually in the color (not the clear), so buffing/polishing can will never fix it, unfortunately.
@petertoft706 жыл бұрын
All cars have orange peel.
@jmayor886 жыл бұрын
The only cars that don't have orange peel are Lambos, Aston Martins and other hand-made cars. Their paint department blocks all their cars to get them to glass smoothness. This car is ridiculous, especially for a 'technology company' that should be eliminating all these errors. For a company that employs so many robots and has been producing cars well over $100,000 for a decade now, this is a BS oversight.
@MrChurchh6 жыл бұрын
Subaru's are renowned for having terrible paint and orange peel from factory lmao
@austinshoupe15066 жыл бұрын
@@MrChurchh Subarus are also subjected to a lot of pointless whining. I'm on my third subi and the paint has been awesome on all three.
@jacobross28956 жыл бұрын
Comes with a rebuilt title straight from the factory!
@DENicholsAutoBravado6 жыл бұрын
Ouch! I had some issues with my brand new 2017 Yamaha WR250R and I lost my (*&( so I couldn't make a video on it. The fact he's kept his cool and made a video on this is super cool of him.
@DENicholsAutoBravado6 жыл бұрын
1st ride into the dessert, brakes fail off. Neither the Japanese factory nor the guy who "built" the bike in the U.S. did what he said he did on delivery where he signed that he torqued that and other things down.
@alexandrubogdan9176 жыл бұрын
Jacob Ross :)))))))
@Marco-fi6gv6 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@JEFulp6 жыл бұрын
I work in a paint shop for a Japanese auto maker in USA. These scratches would be WILDLY unacceptable, especially for the higher end paint job. Also, $2500 is more than twice as expensive as our luxury pain. The orange peel is almost impossible to get rid of in mass production. The spec of dust should have been noticed and fixed before leaving the paint shop. It makes me happy that they are fixing the issues. I work in a paint shop, I don’t know anything about panel gaps.
@SamGamgee80126 жыл бұрын
I've worked with car painters. Here it's part of their job to fix minor damages, removing panels or doors before painting and put them back on (because its faster and cheaper than wrapping the whole car) ... they have to care about and adjust the gaps. Do you paint everything on the car?
Honestly on a brand new car absolutely not acceptable! I mean for most of us it's alot of money and getting a brand new car is a big thing you want it immaculate. If it was 2y old with 20k on the clock Yeah maybe acceptable but not on a new car
@DENicholsAutoBravado6 жыл бұрын
You know ericthecarguy's concept of the reliable POS? Hey, nothing gets you there faster with a new car then one that wasn't built right in the first place.
@Bobbysmitreshop6 жыл бұрын
There isn't a single production car that has this bad of a fit and finish.
@dchawk816 жыл бұрын
Honestly it looks like a rental.
@PatrickMcNelis6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the reason for the 2-day turnaround on a vehicle people are otherwise waiting months for is that your Model 3 was actually someone else's Model 3 but that person declined delivery because of the glaring issues with the paint (and maybe even the gaps). You were just the lucky guy who ordered the exact same thing, and they happened to have one lying around...
@somervillearron6 жыл бұрын
happened to me with a vauxhall
@dlamardeyoutoube6 жыл бұрын
The 489k pre-order list is cleared that why you can have your car pretty quickly. Nobody is waiting for month for a Model 3 anymore.
@bobbywoods6846 жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@dlamardeyoutoube6 жыл бұрын
@James Sempy They have to be quite prudent. Because their worker won't wait for the cars to be sold to be paid. So unsold inventory is basically debt. With their already high debt load they have to cut production asap if they have a downturn. Doing a liquidation with their fragile finance would be catastrophic. But who know how many car they have to produce. With their ceo i'm not convince of them being prudent..
@dlamardeyoutoube6 жыл бұрын
@James Sempy They will need to tap the capital market one way or another. There is rumour that underwriter were feed up with their capital raise and asked them profitables quarters in order to not risk reputation. The next quarter is pretty important for them. Most likely will need to pay around 300M on march first to creditor. I think that the most valuable asset that Tesla has is not their technology but the Brand Tesla itself. They could try to monetize it without diluting it. But i can't give you a clear example on that matter. Now dealership could be a way to save money because their sale cost is extreme. But Tesla was built around that ''boutique'' image that dealership don't offer. The auto market as a whole is entering a very difficult time. Doing prediction is extreme sport. I could say Tesla should do a deal and avoid problem by selling is battery/motor to let say Toyota to create a Toyota with power by Tesla but would the actors be ready to strike a deal...not sure at all
@duanekimball6 жыл бұрын
I think that huge pimple is a deal killer. That means no one did any QC
@The.Sky.Driver6 жыл бұрын
I agree, I've seen quite a few cars on lots recently. Seeing scuffs and little scratches are pretty par for the coarse since not every car can be transported in a ISO 9001 container. But a pain blemish that bad is easily a deal breaker.
@ChrisHeiligers876 жыл бұрын
Ik don't think there is a Quality Control at Tesla. I took delivery of 15 Tesla's in total. These quality issues seem very familiar. The later the delivery, the more problems...
@alex0711a5 жыл бұрын
They have to make their numbers. So they are not allowed to delay deliveries because of something minor like quality problems in paint. Can fix it afterwards once revenue is recognized and the car appeared in the statistic as "delivered"
@nikosv81665 жыл бұрын
In all fairness a lot of that damage could have been caused in transport
@aarondewoskin74695 жыл бұрын
I love Elon, but this how employees rebel when you make them work 80 hour weeks.
@carlos3125 жыл бұрын
I would be livid if I paid that kind of money for a Tesla and it arrived in that condition. I'd probably call them to come pick it up. Unbelievable.
@dave1w416 жыл бұрын
Appears to be assembled at gunpoint.
@collintheviking20826 жыл бұрын
@@redrider7730 If it was not for the tent, then the company might've gone under. That tent produced about half the Model 3's produced this year, so it was pretty smart thinking to build it so that Tesla wouldn't fail.
@TheFirBall6 жыл бұрын
Many former employees will say they that.
@garydunken79346 жыл бұрын
Haha. Come on, faster faster faster guys. Ship them ship them...
@ohmy75545 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched many of your videos. From how you break down the mechanics of a vehicle to a quality issue with Tesla like this. You are VERY informative and don’t worry about the haters.
@greggv86 жыл бұрын
For the cost of a Tesla the panel gaps and levels should at least be as good as your Subaru. For $2500 extra on the paint is should be flawless and dead flat with no orange peel.
@mdbrenna6 жыл бұрын
greggv8 Without a Dealer to fix the issues at their JPH rate not possible. Mercedes is 42 JPH for a reason
@Erik207666 жыл бұрын
greggv8 why? Isn't not like the cars are otherwise equal. One is fitted with a lot more modern technology and an expensive battery. That said obviously there shouldn't be any scratches on the paint
6 жыл бұрын
This golf cart company knows how to turn out expensive high quality junk. They have no clue what they're doing as none of this relates to the power train of the vehicle.
@craditya4 жыл бұрын
NOT ACCEPTABLE. As a new car/Tesla owner, I would've been pissed.