Everything we Know about the Joker's History With The Batman

[@cadeshanley218]

Remember: Joker doesn't care who Batman really is under the cowl. To him, it will ruin the mystery and "magic" of their relationship. He even tells Harley in Arkham City: "No one’s who you think they are, my dear. Why spoil the fun?" He thought the truth would be a total letdown.

[@vikalptrivedi6730]

I'd love to see a scene in future Batman film where some villains try to unmask Batman and Joker saves him. Just for the sake of mystery.

[@remc0s]

Same goes for the Riddler. He would never reveal Batman's identity, because a riddle every knows the answer to, is no fun.

[@Dhampire1976]

To add onto the riddler bit,there's several stories where once Bruce's identity was revealed,he either went silent,became more unhinged,or was in such disbelief that he never figured it out that he was in denial. Just interesting all around

[@cadeshanley218]

@Dhampire1976 Indeed.

[@breach005]

"but you're just so much more FUN!" lol, I considered myself on the side of Joker burnout but I could see some more of this

[@mougabo]

i like this version a lot, he seems extremely violent, intelligent, cruel, sadistic, and above all he seems obsessed rewarding Batman, all good ingredients for fun

[@solarflareb2379]

Its hard to notice but when Joker hands back the files, there is 1 less paperclip

[@sethrobinson28]

No there isn’t I fell for that shyt too fool lol

[@AlineDog5678]

I slowed it down and also noticed it, there’s four and only three left

[@Phantomiam]

Rookie Batman mistake but after this I bet he won’t make that mistake again

[@BeztYT]

Buddies gonna get his ass beat for taking that paper clip

[@sloanlove1994]

What would he do with it? Cell doors are electric, you couldn’t open one with a paperclip

[@flavioalbatrozz2557]

He's gonna be the "Hannibal" of this universe.

[@shartmonkey4382]

I didn’t even think of this wow just wow

[@RebornRider03]

Yh he has to be. Like if penguin is that bad imagine how this joker will be. He be the joker from the comics : pure evil coz of boredom

[@Brickerbrack]

I was thinking the same thing, and Bruce is his Clarice.

[@Mr.HA20]

@@BrickerbrackBatman is more of a Will Graham to me

[@kennethabbott8777]

That's the first thing I thought of. ​@@shartmonkey4382

[@dylanstack8710]

I know the idea that the Joker is done to death is popular right now but I really liked this interpretation of the Joker. The way he has a psychological edge on Batman and makes Batman seem like the desperate prisoner in that deleted scene was brilliant writing,

[@Andy-ru3ce]

His skin being actually burned by the chemicals is just unique. Hope he appears again.

[@breach005]

Its a very grounded version of Batman 1989 it seems, which has a similar origin of Jack Napier just falling into a literal open vat of chemicals that burns in the gouache appearance. He was already a "bad seed" before that and killed Bruce's parents in that version. This version seems to be Joker was deformed from birth and was a chemical terrorist, which after running into Batman got splashed with his own product deforming him even more. He's not reached The Penguin version of Joker yet, I think.

[@nitewing1898]

Of course he will bruv really?

[@jaychulo.F]

He’s getting a show so we will see

[@nitewing1898]

@@jaychulo.F he's not. That was debunked.

[@jaychulo.F]

@ debunked by who u get paid by hbo max ?

[@jeosenigelson4684]

They literally gave the youngest Batman on film the most terrifying depictions of his rogues gallery 😭 Joker is a serial killer/cannibal, Ozwald is a psychopathic gang warlord who will kill ANYONE to get his way, and the Riddler is literally a combination of the Zodiac killer and the Unibomber. I can’t wait to see just how demented and horrific Twoface is going to be.

[@jeosenigelson4684]

@humminahumminabewbz it’s referred to as

[@jeosenigelson4684]

@humminahumminabewbz no, we are shown cases for it and the director confirmed it, making it referred.

[@Open-MindedSkeptic]

I think James Gunn is gonna dead this Batman for his own Batman. He doesn't want two competing Batman versions.

[@4Lwatxbmyback]

That deleted joker scene is better than the entire joker 2 movie

[@bc2130]

😂

[@Sebass1999]

The Batman (2022) is mostly based off of "The Long Halloween" with how it starts with a death on Halloween night and the series of murders that occur after. If Riddler was Holiday, Joker would have been Julian Day.

[@Jaydub07]

It is not idk where you people get this idea the long Halloween starts with veteran Batman the Batman movie starts with sophomore more year Batman Matt reeves never had the idea of making some type of long Halloween trilogy it’s literally just Batman if anything it’ll have to with is the court of owls which even then that’s far into the future

[@Jaydub07]

You sound even more uneducated after reading this have you read the long Halloween do you even know its plot or how it goes noting like the movie at all

[@Sebass1999]

You have seem to have made a number of mistakes which I shall now correct. 1) You didn't put a form of punctuation between "veteran Batman" and "the Batman", thus making a run on sentence. 2) "the" in "the Batman" needs to be capitalized. 3) You do the same thing with in both of your replies to my comment and I won't tell you where because you should know basic English by now. 4) At no point did I say "The Batman(2022)" was based entirely off of "The Long Halloween". I was making a conclusion based off of my own knowledge of the character. That is your own assumption that you have projected onto me as a form of false rhetoric. 5) At no point did I mention the word "trilogy". Stop making assumptions you sound like a damn chat bot autogenerating argumentative points. 6) I would like to hear your theory about The Court of Owls but instead of elaborating on that theory you instead mention it only once and act upon the assumption that I should already know. Get pǝʞɔnɟ sideways you worthless whiny ʇunɔ, and have a good day.

[@Sebass1999]

@@Jaydub07 Learn how to use proper punctuation, I almost had a stroke reading this run-on sentence.

[@Kasigi03]

@@Jaydub07 Someone doesn't understand INSPIRED from and yeah, reading your paragraph was like listening to a three year old explain anything.

[@winterclown6359]

I love this design of Joker. This version actually scared tf out of me, unlike any other adaptation

[@breach005]

Leaned hard into what seems to be a from-birth deformed man, poor, abandoned (probably a ward like Riddler too) with no help or hope in the shithole that is Gotham, getting in a fight with an acid vat and losing. Its almost like Reeves saw the Leto version and went "fuck that"

[@numberonedad]

oh thank goodness the post-credits scene was cut bc it was one of the worst jokers ever

[@franknstein96]

@@numberonedadfor real☠️☠️☠️

[@leviathan9865]

@@numberonedad nice rage bait, try harder

[@numberonedad]

@@leviathan9865 i understand it's difficult that not everyone has the same opinions as you

[@TheJFrost1117]

If they’re going for a trilogy or more, I would want them to build him up a little more in the 2nd movie, and then have him escape Arkham in full chaos. Give other rogues a chance before going back to what everyone knows. Have him profile the Court of Owls or Pyg.

[@kursedmilk]

Reeves stated that he has a congenital condition that causes him to always be “smiling” and those scars are self inflicted

[@captainhooknose6330]

Having an emotionally intelligent joker like this has so much potential, it makes more sense as to how a psychologist like Harleen Quinzel would become enamoured with someone like him

[@deadpilled2942]

Joker pays his thugs a lot of money, he's a charismatic leader, and nobody really knows that Joker randomly kills his own men. Most think that's too unbelievable

[@breach005]

Joker is a reader of people and a profiler just like Penguin (and Penguin also just pumps you full of lead for the smallest slight). Taps into insecurity and turns it into loyalty. Joker wants chaos. Riddler wanted anarchy (yes, totally different word than chaos). Pengiun wants control.

[@felldoh9271]

for me Barry’s Joker quickly caught up to Heath’s Joker just from that short scene

[@NoahFan114]

it's PROFESSOR Pyg, not Mr. Pig, dude.

[@daevld]

John Pork❤

[@xnzians]

It’s fine dude, He hasn’t gotten his medical license yet lol

[@Hylian_Glitchmobber]

​@@xnzians aw yes. Pyg before he got his PHD

[@AlbertoLezamaGarcia]

comic book fans when you call it goobalonks, and not dabbywabblys 😭

[@JurisDoctorDoom]

He didn't spend 7 years in evil college to be called "MISTER", thank you very much.

[@anubusx]

This whole scene is like Silence Of The Lambs.

[@hellfish2309]

You think cannibal joker would go too far? 🤔

[@kd7100]

I think that was actually the intention/ or inspiration

[@frost7962]

Faxxxxx

[@frost7962]

Ge reminds me of hannibal

[@skxlter5747]

​@@hellfish2309he has eaten people in the comics so

[@Abzy467]

I can’t wait to see more of this universe

[@gatorcroc7212]

If we get a Joker Show? I think a "Joker in Arkham" where it covers the flashback "Origins" of the joker would be interesting. -The series is seen from the POV of Jokers Psych doctor, and Jokers narration. Very similar to a Silence of the Lambs! -We'd get viewpoint of a year one Gotham from the citizens, criminals, and Bruce Wayne. -We'd get to see the initial conflicts of Pre Joker and Batman (vat of chemicals) -To actual Joker conflicts with Batman -Apprehending of Joker by Batman -To the ending where Joker escapes Arkham, with his psychiatrists help. So the opposite of Silence of the Lamb, this time the bad guy fully manipulates the person studying him.

[@AAPJE389]

I'm busy writing something like this :). Nice to know there's more people like me who like to see this :)

[@shhh5743]

Bro, stupendous, I’m sitting here watching like why tf is this voice so damn familiar 😭😭don’t know bro did content outside of Star Wars. Might have to put the weed down

[@RexPopulis]

😆😆

[@bink542]

Facts my same experience💀💯

[@screenheads3812]

He looks like the Mad magazine character dressed as the joker

[@Brannicc9]

The back of the jokers head is to show he took someone else’s face and botched surgery it onto his own face. Which is why it looks like it does in the face. It is still fresh and swollen. But like all plastic surgery. He will eventually look like the true joker.

[@breach005]

I think I've read that this version is supposed to be deformed like that from birth, and then gets Batman'd with a chemical shower.

[@abdoulaziz3468]

Love the vids

[@hogberg2001]

One thing I love about this version and the final version of the Joker from the Gotham series is that they have really visible damage from the chemical accident. I don't think someone who falls into chemicals just ends up getting makeup on their face, so this recent realistic approach is really refreshing!

[@Jaydub07]

No their skin would melt if they wouldn’t even have skin left idk what you mean it’s a realistic representation of what happens and no way shape or form it is even with protective gel you wouldn’t even have a good looking face like his it would be all gone bro most likely got that face because of young Bruce and his brutality

[@Silas_Kow]

Bro, he going to ask the Joker makes me remember Mindhunter, an old noir film in my opinion one of the best. For anyone that doesn't know is one of the adaptations of the Hanibal books

[@halloweenfriday]

Manhunter is what you’re thinking of. Mindhunter is a Netflix series.

[@chadfox6030]

I like this version of the joker more

[@albertoalfredo1564]

I think this version of the joker always grew up in Arkham, maybe he was born there

[@breach005]

More likely another failed product of the Reconstruction orphanage system, just like Riddler

[@juliojuarez4033]

Uea the joker should be built up slowly hopefully matt reeves doesn't introduce him right away

[@retzhbb]

He’s not gonna do him for a while he doesn’t want to have the joker be a main villian in his trilogy

[@juliojuarez4033]

@ that's good

[@Logan-yt1lj]

Matt Reeves Joker reminds me of something that would be in a Analog Horror

[@danielwofford275]

trying to avoid spoilers here! thanks!

[@jakecoss7153]

I hope when the eventually show him it’s a shock like I don’t wanna see any leaked footage or him in a trailer or nothing I just want to go into the Batman movie and he just be in it have him shock the audience kind of like nick cage in long legs

[@mason_6478]

that thumbnail nearly shit my pants holy

[@daevld]

penguin finale

[@MediumChain]

Really hope they up the creep factor with this Joker make him real difficult to look at.

[@BigD307]

What if joker “took over” the riddlers gang form the 2022 movie and converted them into the red hoods. It would also make sense as to why they would add him in befriending riddler

[@starchildandthenewromantic]

well done! Reeves said the first film was Detective Batman in a Noir Thriller genre wise, i hope the sequel is a Political thriller like The Untouchables or JFK with all the city council/bela real/penguin & haney/harvey dent/bruce wayne. Even Network or Soylent Green with a Mr Freeze angle esp after the flood and Crown Point explosion.

[@justinh2448]

I could see this joker becoming a character like Hannibal lector from Silence of the Lambs. Throughout the movie Batman can go ask him for his thoughts on certain villains

[@BBathSalts]

Honestly I think it’d be much more interesting if the did a trilogy and had the joker be a back ground character, helping Batman, and being obsessed with him. then have the joker break out at the end of the third, then go back in time to year 1 when he puts the joker away for the 4th. Then cut to the 5th movie with and interpretation of Batman the killing joke. Because don’t forget they have stated they want this to be a Batman franchise

[@madcatter427]

My Brother told me they possibly took inspiration from Hannibal with joker being pulling strings from arkham or batman going to him to help solve crimes 🤔

[@PedroAlves-o6m]

Let's not forget about the Riddler and Joker being a duo.... I think Joker will use Riddler's planning abbilitie to escape arkham in a full Chaos (Maybe a post credits scene in movie 2), and in movie 3... Holy shit... The Killing Joke, showing that Joker now on will be in a forever relationship with this Batman that we are already used to in the comics.

[@JacobMichaelDavidBenson]

He is 90% Hannibal Lector with Batman being Clarice.

[@palefacejack]

Interviews of Reeves state this version has a genetic disease that warped his appearance and ate away at his flesh.

[@TommyGunz_da_Billy9treyG]

I just watched this deleted scene for the first time. After 1 watch I feel like they may be talking about Azreal maybe my reasons would be.. 1.Azreal knows of batman and is a vigilantly as well u could even say hes a fan of batman... 2.Azreal also fights evil but is wayyyy more brutal and even kills the villans . 3.In a lot of itterations where batman struggles with the idea of if by not killing them he is letting the villains more people will get hurt because they just keep getting back on the streets. I could be way off but that's just what I felt after watching literally 1 time. So I just wanted to see what people think

[@brockweaver346]

I really didn't like this movie the first watch through, but the more I reflect on it the more and more I like it and appreciate it, The Penguin hasn't hurt at all either

[@pdcdesign9632]

The Penguin series is much superior to the goofy batman movie.

[@brockweaver346]

@@pdcdesign9632 definitely agree it's better but I wouldn't go as far as calling it goofy

[@TheMarksman0415]

​@@pdcdesign9632The Batman is actually really good in my opinion. One fact for sure is that it has the best Gotham of all the movies.

[@jacobadams6748]

@@pdcdesign9632dumbass

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

​​@@pdcdesign9632AGREED 👍 but it's not goofy.

[@Crowlay69]

The Joker as a former psychologist? Now THAT would be a interesting twist (sorry, Harley :)

[@DylanCoad]

I can honestly see this Joker being the Calendar Man to Riddler’s Holiday. Maybe the Joker was an infamous serial killer who has now been overshadowed by the Riddler’s killings, and thus holds a bit of a grudge. Perhaps he’s manipulating him so he can eventually kill him at the right time. Plus, Joker & Riddler’s cells in Arkham are right next to each other, just like Calendar Man & Holiday’s were. Also, this might just be me but does anyone else see this Joker as a cannibal?

[@Jaydub07]

All jokers are terrifying their whole point is they are unpredictable they are a walking ball of chaos Matt will never show us who joker is as even joker himself doesn’t know that’s what makes Batman and joker relationship interesting real Batman fans know their relationship goes deeper then just villain and superhero and joker most definitely got his scars and facial features from young Bruce brutality when it came to crime fighting we don’t know what Matt will do with joker Matt is taking a new but old take on Batman it’s lot gonna be like the long Halloween or anything else it might take something’s from those sources but will not be like it penguin just proved it

[@nofillergamingknight7319]

I Always Hate when people say the Jokers Origins are Ambiguous. Most Media Blatantly Chooses "The Killing Joke" as his Origin.

[@MadMax-de5uh]

Apparently he went after Gordon’s kids

[@crsmyth4428]

I love your breakdown of the Joker based on this one cut scene from the film. I sort of understand why they might have wanted to cut it. But did they cut it because the movie was already getting too bloated or because in their writing brainstorms for the future installments this scene somehow conflicted? Either way, I have to agree with what you drew from this scene. It leads me to suspect a few possibilities. Was Joker an agent of some kind, who may have even been investigating his own crimes? Was Joker a genius chemist? A psychologist? Does Gotham even know who he is? I could see the reason they might have Joker locked up, aside from his obvious demented state, could also be because he refuses to reveal his identity. I would prefer if his original identity was never revealed. Maybe do conflicting flash backs in an unreliable narrator style. Though I think that overly muddies the waters. The Joker is a force of nature and part of that is due to never knowing where he originated. He is just suddenly there like a sudden gust of hurricane winds. I like the idea of seeing him not yet fully formed, in a transformational stage, but not preceding that at all. Give out little clues to chew on but never fully say what is true. The Joker is a genius and a liar. He will do anything to amuse himself and stave off boredom. Sort of like a demented form of Sherlock Holmes.

[@kilgoretrout413]

The jokester is literally me 🫠🫠🫠

[@cursedtuna7369]

i am by no means an expert on matt reeve's batman lore, however, i still like to theorize about the characters. in this universe i could see the joker starting as a serial killer dubbed by gotham as "the red hood" and as for his methodology, he uses his job at ace chemicals to steal chemicals and weaponize a concoction against his victims to disfigure them much like how he is disfigured. for a week straight, gotham could have been plagued by "the red hood killings" which would eventually lead the batman to discovering the red hood's hideout within ace chemicals. the red hood's reign of terror ends with him falling into a vat of his own chemical concoction while trying to escape the batman which in turn gives him the iconic white skin and green hair alongside the grotesque chemical burns we see on his body!

[@northphillyp]

.....If Matt Reeves and Warner Bros.Animation could give us a short of Batman's and Jokers first encounter it would be greatly appreciated

[@YomamaYodaddyYobjtchassGranny]

All I’m saying is penguin is str8 evil so I can’t imagine how extreme joker will be not to mention the other villains reaction to him stepping into the spotlight in reeves universe

[@jcdenton9844]

why delete it ? they should make a directors cut

[@N3da87]

jokers profile: "Some men just want to watch the wotld burn"

[@johnfalco4169]

It would be really cool to see the joker at use the joker gas in live film.

[@Broadkill54]

I’m calling it now: the Batman part 3 will be somewhat inspired by the riddler joker war.

[@benjaminrickdonaldson]

0:36 James gunn isnt the director of the batman universe lil bro.

[@NUCLEARDASH]

But he is the boss of the director lil nigga

[@SomeGuyWhoWorksAtPizza]

Yea but James is close with Matt Reeves and has debunked false information for the upcoming battinson movies before

[@davidjones8043]

Calling people lil bro is so cringe

[@seanmalloy0528]

Gunn is still head of all DC movies

[@marcopineda7504]

Right. He is the director of DC “lil bro.” Seriously, Gunn’s claims should not be taken lightly, his statements are as if not more important than Matt Reeves’.

[@kylewassink221]

I'd love to see this dynamic continue in the other movies, Joker is a bit over saturated so keep him on the sidelines for now. Use him as a profiler here and there to help with cases, but his motives are to get all of Gotham's weirdos in one place, Arkham. Sequels have a problem of trying to keep upping the escalation until its a bit ridiculous, Id want to see a 2 part finale where joker has taken over Arkham, unleased all the inmates and trapped bats inside. make it a mix between the Arkham games and Scott Snyder's new 52 run where Joker see's batman as King and himself as court Jester who deeply loves him. Each inmate controls a certain area of the asylum while Bats makes his way through to the middle. Also, Nicholas Hoult should be HUSH

[@seanmalloy0528]

Hush would be too much like Riddler

[@caseypearce9078]

Getting Hannibal Lecter vibes from this iteration. And I am here for it.

[@TheKingThewidowandRick777]

Barry Keoghan's Joker needs to come back for The Batman - Part II (2026) or The Batman - Part III you can even bring back Paul Dano as The Riddler aka Hush.

[@robertrouse8945]

I love there dark dynamic is on 💯 miles hour 💣💣💣💣💣💣

[@roddyvision3977]

In the first movie Batman the whole plot was chemical attacks

[@Biggarou]

they did a profile of the Joker back in the 80's and they all agreed he doesent know his origin other then he went through something tramatic that broke and shattered him mind. in some passages said he leaves no DNA, no prints. is never seen unless he want to on film. trhey are theories that he was a very very learned man with his levels of skills in different fields. His only weakness is concentrating on dragging batman down to his level or, possibly make him a frend and understand his world. No one knows including the Joker.

[@adamdizzy6052]

I thought they'd use the dance with devil.under a pale moon night.

[@zacarriomcbride972]

Nice

[@VersusArdua]

God a solid Joker series is just what everyone needs after that recent sequel to get the stank off the character

[@matthewmartin4394]

Guys, do your research. Matt Reeves has made it CRYSTAL CLEAR what the origin of his Joker's physical appearance IS. He said specifically that there is no vat of acid. His Joker has a degenerative disease which causes the decay (along w/likely self inflicted damage), & he's suffered from it most his life.

[@ВалерийНикулин-л3и]

White skin and green hairs man

[@RedHood8181]

I've been waiting for something with the red hood gang to show up, something I wanted for a while now since I've created this channel. I based this channel off of the inspiration of it, personal head cannon I guess. But I would love a live action of the red hood gang

[@icecream3281]

In the Gothamseries they appear?

[@SlamsNYC]

This Joker will just be a nightmare of a serial killer High IQ deformed sadist that genuinely loves causing pain and agony The red hoods can be easy, just have them rock full red stockings, balaclavas and ski masks and go for that “Hoods” gang look in the PS2 game Manhunt I think his crew could of gave him a Glasgow smile after over analyzing some for fun in the crew for fun and they threw into some chemicals

[@bigtmac23]

Sooo nobody even the guy in the video miss ONE BIG THING. Joker said to batman " you came to see me, before our anniversary of those killing spree" Soooo it look like maybe batman since robert, the year one raw batman, I think he did that to the joker when he want on his serial killing spree also Joker say to batman " this guy(riddler) doesn't look like he's the only one that got something against you" Joker looked at him real hateful when he said that last part. Look how batman caught the penguin the car chase. Sooo it look like batman have already want against Joker and another villain, then riddler, now Mr. Freeze, which hint how all the arkum's prisoners are gonna get out, when Mr freeze comes to town in Batman 2, he freezes the city and that's somehow those criminals gonna get out or to distract batman, He would literally break arkham prisoners out, by him time to freeze the city

[@all-s0rts]

I'd like for it to be eventually revealed that he could come and go from Arkham anytime he wanted a la El Chapo and he just went in there because he wanted to shoot the shit with Bats.

[@theinterstellarcast9734]

So basically there isn’t much more lore we know about Matt Reeves’ Batman and Joker relationship, but more or less this was just another video essay on what the two characters are and have always been to each other; opposites. Just say that in the title bro

[@kd7100]

Uh… Batman ‘89? The Joker does exactly this (“the chemical warfare” aspect). At the end the Joker gassed and killed everyone at the parade 🤨….

[@Robdawg-w8l]

I'm looking forward 2 this adaptation of the joker. I find your narrative of chemical warfare discerning you act like the joker didn't do this in 1989

[@brandona230]

4:30

[@angryakh]

Batman 89 Joker was using chemicals

[@adaptivelearner6162]

I Hope the joker does not look like this its not comic accurate and, just a complete betrayal of his origins. Just make the Joker interesting and good.

[@TrueAmericanNative]

I just don’t know how this joker is workable. He’s so deformed it kinda takes you out of it. I wonder if they’ll do some debulking of his design. Like maybe in the deleted scene he’s still recovering from a beating and he’s swollen still idk.

[@davidamaro1394]

🫥

[@geordiemc4571]

I think you just don’t understand joker. He’s not a regular guy who puts face paint on like Nolan’s and Todd Phillips. He’s supposed to be chemically scarred. The guy in the video explains this with the chemicals bleaching his skin

[@vanguardian2864]

More excited about this iteration after they ruined Joker 2 out of spite for the fans.

[@dova3282]

Wait I thought in this version he has Birth Deformities or is it just speculation?

[@TheMarksman0415]

No you are right, I think it's confirmed that this Joker has a disease of some sort.

[@HenzoW-cf3mh]

Is the Joker going to have Harley Quinn with him? I could see the both of them controlling the Red Hoods and wrecking havoc. Maybe they do 2 movies with the first ending in Harley being done for and Joker continues his reign after her departure. I would love for Matt Reeves to slowly dissect each villain of Batman. Maybe not all of them but the main ones like Bane and Two face. He done an incredible job with Penguin. I liked the Riddler and Catwoman’s roles as well.

[@novachikun]

If they bring back this version of Joker, the actor better do a better job at his performance. We don't need to see another Heath Ledger imitator/wannabe.

[@JasonHollis-hg6vg]

Do we really need another joker movie! Can they not just use enough a villain 🤷 oh wait. No they can't! Because majority of them are mystical And this universe has to be 100% grounded 🤷

[@Shads302]

In the first joker movie they were playing around with the fact that joker might be Bruce Wayne seniors illegitimate child so that would have made joker Batman’s half brother. Same father different mothers. After getting punched by Wayne senior my theory was joker goes fully mad and everything in the Batman universe is just in jokers imagination. Basically Batman being a figment of his warped mind, going up against his sibling who he is jealous of because his father left everything to his baby brother. My mate said it was a shit theory.

[@DBProds96]

your mate was right

[@vincentlee376]

i really don’t want joker in the Batman universe

[@diggestbik3238]

Hes gonna do some fucked up shit

[@John-X]

Bruh two mins of this video is actual info, the rest is just this guy's fanfiction. lol most of this video is just "duhhhh wut if dis happened, haha, haha, and then, and then wut if DIS happened! haha dat wud be so cool haha duhhhh 🤤🤤🤤"

[@bensadfleck9972]

Only to be debunked by james gunn in one post, this whole video is just yapping

[@Zig-Zag-Eyes]

Welcome to the dark side of fan theories’ posts bro..

[@wingedferret5713]

Bro reeves already confirmed joker was born with this disfiguration. U shouldve done a bit more research

[@YouTubeaccount4me]

Born as joker. Lol. Jk. But what if that’s the plot twist and mislead

[@wingedferret5713]

​@@KZbinaccount4me nah matt reeves was very specific abt the origin story. Its a really cool on actually.

[@scaredydog33]

11:11

[@hinkhall8451]

Keoghan was a complete miscast. I don't understand how people think he was good. His performance was literally "I'm the jokah baby" levels of cringe

[@NUCLEARDASH]

Guys, stop comenting the awful ideia of three jokers, lets forget that,huh? Shall we? It might go away if we do

[@zuccsucc476]

i think the joker would be a waste of time in this universe. I think the best villains they could go with are hush and the court of owls, Zsasz perhaps as a side plot.

[@retzhbb]

Yeah but hush and court of owls would be to similar to the themes of the Batman , it’s pointless

[@LongShlongJohnson]

honestly, you can't have Batman without his #1 enemy. I just hope they save him for the end and maybe have him and Oz both being major villains in 3

[@zuccsucc476]

@@retzhbb what? Yeah that's the whole point. The movie is a detective thriller and those are the best villains to help keep that theme.

[@zuccsucc476]

@@LongShlongJohnson I just don't think he'd fit well unless they made him different and the joker needs to be the same.

[@marekboldin4386]

@@zuccsucc476nobody wants to see hush and court of owls that’s boring 😂..give us man bat penguin Solomon Grundy joker two face scarecrow ..we need better villains not boring villains

[@scrapanimation3813]

Hopefully he is actually funny

[@Fckituppp]

He looks British

[@seanmalloy0528]

How does a person look British?

[@Fckituppp]

@ like him

[@FOXYCPF]

I love and hate this design

[@VolcanoMilk]

Pro tip: If you want your Joker to work, he has to be funny. Along side all his creepy and intellectual qualities, the jokes need to land.

[@Mr.HA20]

I really don’t remember Heath Ledger or Joaquin Phoenix’s Jokers being funny but yet they had the best performances and are considered the definitive Jokers

[@leviathan9865]

they need to keep matts version locked up bruh LMAOOO

[@GrayRivers-q1i]

Matt Reeves already said this joker didn't fall into chemicals. Please do your research before spewing misinformation. Ts is just embarrassing

[@Kasigi03]

Reeves has already stated this Joker DID NOT become disfigured from a chemical accident. He has a genetic condition that causes a rotting like situation for his face. However, that doesn't really explain the red lips or green hair. Hopefully there will be NO inspiration from Three Jokers. One of the worst conceived ideas ever. The Joker movie made the Joker mystique lame and boring. He's a loser who wears makeup, not a criminal mastermind.

[@chrisdee1583]

Aye ,DEI garbage like Mr Mumbles with the stutt tut terr.This Batman garbage will never touch TDK trilogy it's simply box ticking shite.

[@Kasigi03]

@@chrisdee1583 ,"DEI garbage like Mr Mumbles with the stutt tut terr." LOL Oh boy, hahahahaha.