Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Spider-Man: Across The Spider Verse

[@Th3Birdman]

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[@JJ_R]

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[@glitchhoffe1293]

Happy holidays to you 2

[@123RADIOactive]

Merry Christmas buddy 😅

[@Flareguy]

Happy st Patrick’s day

[@TheLowlyyouarenice]

Happy (insert random holiday here!)

[@FirethornYT]

With the "why are both his uncle and dad supposed to die?" thing, it's quite obvious. Aaron was the close family member dying canon event , and his dad dying is a police captain dies canon event

[@andrewdunn8778]

Yep Aaron is Uncle Ben and his dad is Captain Stacy

[@barisbal7782]

that... also there is no such rule that says one tragedy per life.

[@HEAVENSMUS3]

and that was literally explained IN THAT SCENE. Like why did he sin that when they explained it to him????

[@mackenziehunter4593]

@@HEAVENSMUS3 Because he's Jeremy and he doesn't know shit about movies.

[@tomatosoup1304]

Yeah, Spider-man is always having people die around him

[@ApexGale]

Captain Stacy isn't mad because Peter was Gwen's friend. He was mad because Peter was like a son to him. Literally in the span of the opening we see that their families were close enough to have dinner together - Gwen, her father, Peter, May, and Ben are all giving grace around the table. And the fact that he is so upset over Peter's death that he tries to arrest Gwen NOT for what happened in the museum, but for his death, shows that. It's called subtext. Also, real Spidey heads know that Spider-Man is notorious for being difficult to work with. He has worked alone so often that he tends to actually get in the way of teamwork - as shown during his collab with the Fantastic 4. So having hundreds of solo fliers trying to chase one guy naturally made it *easier* for him to escape, because they were constantly getting in each other's way. Note that when the herd is thinned out, Miles actually *is* struggling to escape. When it's just him and Miguel, Miguel has him on the ropes constantly.

[@dakotaskyes]

Everyone says where's Birdman but never how's Birdman.

[@MarvMay]

So, we're just gonna skip over when and what to go directly to the drax joke?

[@jhonyjoestar1302]

Or who's birdman

[@AttemptedVoices]

I'll do you one better, WHO''S Birdman? I'll do YOU one better, WHY'S Birdman?

[@Ohmydayz9]

yes

[@Mr_universal286]

What’s birdman?

[@tanaka173]

25:15 The thing is even without cultural context it still works. Moments before this Miguel had crashed through the window acting so aggressively that two other spiders were telling him to take a breath. It doesn't take much in that scenario to think 'I shouldn't stop him from going home.'

[@ljeans531]

Spider-byte in that scene is also one of the spider people at the end of the movie to join up with Gwen. She saw something in Miles and wanted to give him a chance. And just like Gwen many in the spider society may not totally agree with what 2099 is doing. They may be unsure of how to approach ending the universe. Its a difficult decision to make tbh.

[@usarhabilidade2697]

Yeah, seeing 2099 face while trying to break miles scape route, my first thought would be also something like: "My dude, he's gonna kill the kid!"

[@llama6394]

It's literally just because she can see that the "multiverse elite squad" thing is bad

[@Rozzachu]

I didn't realise this cultural context existed, I read it as Spider-Byte was inspired by Miles' mission and hesitated to reboot the Go Home Machine because she believed in him

[@artsycandy9183]

Yeah as a person who was supposed to understand the cultultural context, it wasn't my first thought regarding her specifically. I feel like Miles' plight is reasonable enough to have people on his side without having interracted with him a lot. It seems like most spider people follow Miguel reluctantly, using his spider society as a way to feel community and connection. Their cultural connection is another good interpretation and it can be both.

[@darththeo]

The fact that CinemaSins writers didn't pick up that the entire point of this story is to have us question whether or not the canon events need to happen is sad. Like that's the point, we know Gwen knows her father is supposed to die and at the end because he leaves the force that future now won't happen. There is another reason why the universes are destroyed. Like seriously, I do not get how CinemaSins and those people who write the sins fail to pick up something so obvious in the movie.

[@ohilevoeauca789]

All we're shown is ONE universe being destroyed, and we only know that Miguel is the one who thinks breaking a "canon" did it. He's not even a "canon" Spider-man by his own rules. He wasn't bit by a radioactive spider, he doesn't have a Gwen, he doesn't have a police captain, he doesn't even have a dead uncle. HE is the outsider, not Miles.

[@darththeo]

@@ohilevoeauca789 Yeah, there is tons of evidence to support the idea that the required "canon" isn't what maintains the universes and that it is just what Miguel thinks does. He is responding out of grief for the harm he feels he caused and wishes to prevent further harm. But, the fact CinemaSins writers didn't pick up the extremely obvious hints is sad. Like it isn't even neon sign pointing to it level of hints, it is more obvious than that.

[@christopherbowers7236]

yeah by thre end of the movie we basically know that miguel is incorrect, just HOW incorrect we dont know. but his assumptions and the actions he takes based on them are proven wrong.

[@finnsword8286]

Mayday is another clear example of why Miguel is wrong. She wouldn't exist if not for Peter B's experience with Miles. Which....according to Miguel shouldn't have happened. So, Peter B's world should have been destroyed because he wasn't SUPPOSED to have a daughter. And yet it's going fine. Gwen's world is still fine. The movie so clearly shows that Miguel is wrong.

[@matth2283]

yeah, we see 2 universes being destroyed. 1 that Miguel went to to be with his fake daughter and the other that Spot went to. They look nowhere similar to how they are being destroyed. Miguel's was a wall of force deleting everything, while the one Spot goes to end up with something akin to a blackhole, which I my opinion is clearly tied to Spot

[@MichaelDavis2754]

I gotta say this is definitely one of your most creative EWW videos The different numbers on a sin counter being references to the different dimensions each Spider-Man is from Even some comic references The M in CinemaSins having the spider verse style colors The different Birdmen from alternate dimensions sinning Jeremy 10/10 video Birdman 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@LFPman]

I know Birdman’s very familiar with the Spiderman franchise WAAAAY outside of just the MCU, but that’s probably why he referenced each dimensional spiderman

[@MichaelDavis2754]

@@LFPman yeah I also know that as well I'm just pointing out how great it is that he references the comics It even ties into his main argument against CinemaSins "the books do matter"

[@keimasilver]

To add to the bit where Jeremy pretends he's never heard of hammerspace before and tries to sarcastically say the heroes won't use it, they already did. Spider-Ham used it in the last movie and even gave Miles his hammer while saying "it'll fit in your pocket". So Jeremy feigns ignorance.

[@Zimmy_1981]

Where does it leave Peter? Not being a dick, genuinely curious

[@Chuck_EL]

I'm so excited movie studios have openly called out CinemaSins and won't acknowledge them

[@matth2283]

@@Chuck_EL I'd be even more excited if the openly ridiculed them for their media illiteracy

[@Mrawesome-of1ze]

Idk how he can even sin this movie lol

[@gggaribaldi1]

For 20 minutes at that...smh

[@MichaelDavis2754]

Just like life CinemaSins finds a way Even if it's a stupid one

[@aDragonsTail]

By telling corny jokes and nitpicking

[@Sillge0]

how much money do you think he got for the video

[@Eleyrica]

​@@Sillge0Count his sheeps then you'll know lol

[@Sydberry]

It's frustrating how many of CinemaSins' sins are answered by the movie that he's apparently watched to make his video! He questions too many things that the movie answers

[@UltimateDespairado]

Cinemasins logic: *character explains or does something in a clear and understandable way Cinemasins: What the -- just happened?!

[@matth2283]

Watching recent Cinemasins content just makes my brain rot. I feel like he just sins stuff to rage bait and boost his video by people raging in the comments

[@jse_illustrations]

movie: makes sense cinemasins: grrrr i don't like that😡😡

[@MeemahSN]

@chaosleviatho879 Then he's succeeded at making himself look like a complete idiot.

[@josiahtheawkward6008]

Miles Morales is Spider-Man. I dressed up as him at my job because I look a lot like him. And every child who recognized me screamed “IT’S SPIDER-MAN!” not “Miles Morales”. I can’t believe there are some adults that don’t understand a simple concept that even kids understand clearly. Edit: Hell, even some adults called me Spider-Man. That’s how I know the people online are doing this shit for attention.

[@gwit4051]

fr it's like saying that wally west and barry allen aren't the flash. i swear some people do not grasp the idea of shared mantles. or maybe they do and just single out miles for reasons they'd probably deny.

[@TheKueiJin]

​@@gwit4051while i agree, it does sometimes create issues that i'd wish were better shed light upon. I.E. OG Teen Titans Robin, and who he actually he is, because he as Robin had a thing with Star Fire, which was beautiful. And Damien Robin had a thing with Raven.

[@jbcatz5]

Or how Westley inherited the title of Dread Pirate Roberts in Princess Bride, passing it on to Inigo Montoya at the end of the film. In superhero narratives legacy characters have been a thing for decades, look how many Earth born Green Lanterns there are or how many people have worn the cowl as Batman. Batman has had multiple Robins.

[@olela6018]

what are you guys talking about? the internet virgin adults don't think miles is spider-man..?

[@paulheap1982]

​@@olela6018no, they absolutely do.

[@AychSkwaird]

Birdman trying to say Earth-1999999 is the modern version of sisyphus's boulder

[@Th3Birdman]

😂

[@robynhood3983]

6:33 hammerspace was also alluded to in ITSV, tho indirectly. Spider ham give miles a fairly sizable wooden mallet and says (paraphrasing) "you can keep it in your pocket". the indirectness definitely flew over CinemaSIns' writers' heads.

[@SceneWins]

Doesn’t he also pull it out of nowhere? I didn’t know it was was called “hammer space” but still figured it out

[@Emmanuel-ig5iy]

I think the first thing he pulled out was a hammer too

[@3173_Delta]

I wonder if he *was* able to keep it Since the scene with the footnote implied hammerspace is an ability of the character, not the item Meaning it's spider-ham who "can keep" the mallet in his pocket, not the mallet that "can be kept" in a pocket

[@bigiron1311]

@@3173_DeltaI dunno, but it was a really cartoonish looking hammer so it might be a property of the world? Like when you watch a cartoon and some object is in a different style to the background so you know it’s about to be moved? The hammer space property isn’t character specific, it’s world specific. So any object from that world has that property? Like the colour on the Rubik’s cube in noirs world? His world doesn’t have colour, but the object from a world with colour does. So the hammer, being from a world with hammer space has it? I think? Yeah I’m probably right.

[@jaydrianpieters7718]

​@@bigiron1311I HOPE you're right,I want miles to bonk Spot on the head with that cartoon hammer and then spider-ham saying "hey,he kept it in his pocket!" Greatest callback ever!

[@isaboll1]

Jeremy questioning why Mile's dad is expected to die just continues to show his lack of paying attention. That came as soon as Miguel mentioned the "police captain" cannon even, meaning Mile's dad is equivalent to Captain Stacy dying, rather than the Uncle Ben situation which was fulfilled by Uncle Aaron dying

[@Chuck_EL]

Remember when Jeremy really said Spiderman using web cartridges wasn't in the comics then when he was called out he blamed his writers?

[@bradwhite5884]

​@@Chuck_EL His writers aka him, yet he treats himself and the writers as separate entities and yet they are the same person, lol

[@Chance57]

Shameik Moore's line delivery as Miles is too fucking good. That last part where he talks to "his" Mom was crazy.

[@Little1Cave]

Him and Hailee Steinfeld have been up for all kinds of voice-acting awards for this movie, and goddamn do they both deserve them. ❤️❤️

[@MichaelDavis2754]

His acting throughout the entire Train Chase scene is probably my favorite The fear and anger of being chased/pinned down with nowhere to go by Miguel The betrayal of when he finds out Gwen and Peter knew about his dad's fate He Hailee and Oscar Issac deserve awards in my opinion

[@one-onessadhalf3393]

My personal favorite was when he had his talk with Peter when he was escaping

[@thepip3599]

Another explanation for how Miles was able to escape from so many other spider people is that his spidey sense helped him sense what they were going to do since they were trying to capture him and were thus a threat, but their spidey senses didn’t help them sense what he was going to do since he was just trying to run away from them and thus wasn’t a threat. I’m pretty sure that spidey sense is somehow able to detect the abstract concept of a threat.

[@IchiGurou]

This also probably plays in to how Peter B caught him immediately since he wasn't actively going at him (if you noticed he was able to immediately snag Miles)

[@chunkymonkey7983]

Plus, the only one that would really see miles escaping as a threat would be Miguel, but he doesn't have spider sense.

[@spinylizardz]

Sometimes I'm convinced your intro disclaimers are just there to prevent getting attacked by Cinemasins fans because 12:33 was way too brutal to be just poking fun LMAO 💀

[@blackmage665]

That is what it is, in one sense. it serves multiple purposes if you think on it.

[@Yumi_Jay]

There are some sins that is bad and some sins that good/funny. It depends. Early CS good. Current CS meh.

[@mrcheesemunch]

I can still never tell if it's some playful ribbing or if he does actually hate them because damn the amount of hospital visits from some of the burns....

[@Mikol_Billy]

Wow birdman straight up just made me switch the perspective with Gwen’s dad still insisting to arrest her with the “I don’t like the idea of cops letting their relatives get away with crimes” Like that’s half the reason we don’t usually like cops cuz they feel they and their family is above the law a lot Neat

[@ratbaby3107]

"how could we forget his family loves him when the movie has been beating us over the head with feelings and parents?" Uh, idk, maybe the fact that up until now most of those feelings have been things like "disappointment" and "frustration" as miles misses important events and the like, and can't explain why? And this moment is the touching resolution of that as his mom tells him that no matter how frustrated they are with him, he's still loved?

[@xxbanditoxxdito6318]

That joke about not answering your wife's phone was so true lmao 😂

[@Zimmy_1981]

Facts!

[@cringeboy8864]

Universe 🎼 is the most underrated universe. Thanks for showing us the Birdman from that universe

[@eatatjoes6751]

I wonder if that Birdman always talks like he’s computer singing.

[@exileisland2675]

The scene of Spiderbyte letting Miles go has such immense weight. So much was said by saying nothing at all.

[@adfdasdfadfadsfareae]

3:30 Not only do most people not know that you can open a drum, the people that do know it, also know that doing so ruins the tuning. Those same people would also know that people frequently put pillows/towels/blankets inside drums to change or mute the sound. Basically, seeing a kick drum with something inside it would arouse suspicion from absolutely no one.

[@tomatosoup1304]

8:06 I actually love this point. So many people in fan spaces are horrified that her father was willing to shoot Gwen but he clearly didn't want to but also knew that (in his perspective) she was a criminal who killed someone. It was refreshing to see her dad took his job seriously and had good morals

[@firepuppies4086]

25:32 let's also not forget... A spider person would want to save their relative and knows how hard it is to let go of it. pretty sure that is one reason Miles even got away. Keep in mind, Peter B narrowly kept Miles from getting caught...by Insomniac Spider-Man specifically.. the one who most recently had to let go of his aunt for the greater good AND, well would you look at that has a Miles who lost his father

[@brendenhawley2225]

Yep I always assumed the other spider man heart was not in it.

[@SpiderMan13447]

Imagine sinning this movie and the previous one. These movies were both awesome, and had great animation and great writing. Edit: Thanks for all the likes I will not laser u!

[@magicjohnson5733]

The animation made it really difficult to watch this movie. For me at least, it hurt my eyes lmao

[@Eleyrica]

@@magicjohnson5733 Boy you really posted 3 comments to just hate on the movie 💀💀

[@SpiderMan13447]

@@magicjohnson5733 well, I could kind of see that as the animation in this movie it’s kinda all over the place

[@danavixen6274]

DEFINITELY an Oscar worthy animated EPIC! ❤🕷️

[@Dragonflee100]

@@magicjohnson5733you need a doctor

[@kenedwards3408]

I think the 616/199999 thing is one of Paradoxes of hubris. I think every universe refers to itself as 616 initially. Then, when they're opened up to the real extra dimensional beings they give them their real designation

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

If that's the case, shouldn't they all internally refer to themselves as Earth-1? what's so special about the number 616?

[@PhantomMiria22]

@@joshuasgameplays9850 they probably guess if we found the multiverse someone else probably already did so before them.

[@barisbal7782]

it was more of a ''books named the prominent universe as 616 and for that reason we named our prominent universe after it'' type of situation. kind of like how there are 2 gwens(gwen of this movie and gwen of comic book) and both of their universes designated as earth-65. because earth-65 now considered as the universe that is prominent with spider-woman

[@JustinVanTrump]

You should've sinned Jeremy for not removing a sin because of Ganke playing Marvel's Spider-Man 2 as a reference to the upcoming game and then not removing another for having Yuri voice the Insomniac Spider-Man in the later sin

[@ThaMxUp]

omg so he was playing an insomniac spider-man game? I remember squinting omega hard at the screen when I was watching this on dvd at a family gathering recently and I thought I was crazy

[@ASx2608]

@@ThaMxUpInsomniac Spider-Man 2

[@3s_muycar0]

It’s still so crazy how so many British actors can mimick an American accent well, I didn’t know Daniel Kaluuya is British 😭

[@Chuck_EL]

Yup Idris Elba, John Boyega , Kate Beckinsale, Michael Sheen and Christian Bale all do great American accents Bale even did all of his batman interviews in his Bruce Wayne voice

[@thegreatherox]

Full respect for always calling Miles Spider-Man on the subtitles.

[@InfiniteFury2K]

Agreed.

[@apollojustice9401]

For Sin 96, I like your read but my interpretation was that it was a "Hero" Scene. She saw the look of fear in Miles eyes, the desperation to go home, and it resonated with her. She's a hero, a Spider-Man, and at that moment she saw just someone who needed help, and she didn't go through with it. It is not unlike someone like Peter, for example, to let someone he knows is dangerous go because they need to help someone. Very Spider-Man, so to speak. And I am fine with either read.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

The vocoded voice at 19:45 has me in tears. Well done, Th3Birdman. 👏 😂

[@chiffaonosu]

I fking died on the haaaaaaaair

[@abthedragon4921]

Same 😂

[@Chuck_EL]

He sounds like Madam Web when she goes beast mode

[@Paper_Jam200]

While your explanation at about here 24:00 is good, you forgot to mention that it's also partially Miles's fault that his version of Peter Parker died, because "Ken Doll" Parker was trying to protect Miles instead of trying to protect himself.

[@Ahill57]

Literal definition of 'Help a brother out' going WAY over his head.

[@benjaminwellington8297]

Spider-verse was incredible. Glad you made this video.

[@JJCastaway]

As someone who used to hate your take on the first venom and even argued with you on it. I really have done a 360 and wholeheartedly enjoy your venom 1 lovers references, jabs and jokes at people like me. Its entertaining and funny af. Keep it up 👏

[@Th3Birdman]

Glad you're finding it funny now

[@hedgehoundable]

4:45 I'm guessing this Birdman hasn't obtain the power of "You sinned that movie so the answer is obviously NO" gag yet. Present Birdman's got so much to teach him.

[@nvcomics]

Miles Morales IS Spider-Man If anyone says otherwise you just either don't know or actively hate Spider-Man

[@animeguy10000000]

Or are racist.

[@bye1551]

Or are racist

[@firepuppies4086]

It's like saying that there is only one Thor... When Beta Ray Bill has BEEN around since... 83? Yeah older than plenty of the people who would say that crap.

[@jlev1028]

​@firepuppies4086 Thor is a name, not a mantle. Notice that every succeeding holder of the hammer before Jane Foster didn't name themselves after the god of thunder, they either called themselves "God of Thunder" or a similar name that relates to their weapon and powers.

[@nvcomics]

@@jlev1028 Eric Masterson was called Thor until Odinson came back where he changed to ThunderStrike. Also Beta Ray Bill literally went by Beta Ray Thor for a while along with Jane Foster being referred to as "Mighty Thor". Its a Mantle, marvel says so, move on

[@ITrySometimes]

13:16 A 14 year old worked on this, thats certainly more talent than you have, Jeremy.

[@OmegaBlackHeart]

Glad to be here to check this out. And always good to see you back, B-Man 👍🏼😎 Edit: 16:40- I see what you did there 😅

[@4c3fr3h1y]

Also, on the subject of when the girl lets miles go through the portal, it doesnt help that miguel was losing his shit and acting like a maniac. One person was clearly in the wrong in that situation and it wasn't miles.

[@Abyss_Princess]

12:13 I noticed that was Miles 42 the second time I watched. Also, personally, while it doesn't work for Spot, I do believe that Jeremy explained why I don't like Miguel. He blames Miles for things like "If you hadn't been bit *your* Peter Parker would've lived" like Miles told the spider to bite him. And Miguel acting like Miles is a bigger threat than Spot

[@MichaelDavis2754]

Thing is though is Spot is going to cause one of the canon events to happen (Jeff's death) meanwhile Miles is trying to stop it and Miguel is only prioritizing Miles because he's threatening the canon and the potential of if Jeff lives then the entire multiverse collapses meanwhile Spot while still a threat isn't the priority target as he's not really threatening the canon if anything he was causing them to happen (like with Captain Singh) and Miles was preventing them And Miguel saying if he hadn't been bit Peter would've lived isn't entirely false either Miles was supposed to write an essay chose not to hung out with Aaron got bit went back to the Spider that bit him and wound up in Peter's way so Peter had to balance fighting everyone and making sure Miles (who just got Spider powers that Peter could sense) is safe

[@Zebo12345678]

Miguel isn't trying to blame Miles for being bit and getting Peter Parker killed. He's trying to explain to Miles why it's so important for him to cooperate with Spider Society. Miles is an anomaly. He's a problem, and he has to accept it. That's Miguel's stance, and he's trying to scare Miles into giving up or seeing things his way. Miguel lacks the delicacy to handle interacting with a teenager like Miles, hence everyone else telling him to "go easy on Miles." The more Miles pushes back against Miguel, the angrier Miguel gets, which ends in him yelling at Miles for not respecting the danger he poses on his entire universe by being an anomaly.

[@Abyss_Princess]

​@@MichaelDavis2754I hear that, and I understand, counterpoint, Earth 1048 (Insomniac Spider-Man). If all police captains are supposed to die, then Yuri shouldn't be Wraith

[@Abyss_Princess]

​@@MichaelDavis2754Yeah i know that, but Miguel is saying it like Miles knew his actions would make him Spider-Man, and all of this would happen

[@MichaelDavis2754]

@@Abyss_Princess yeah but it's not Yuri as a police captain that dies It's usually Captain Stacy who dies Yuri is wraith in the comics and the game Same way Captain Stacy dies in the comics and TASM 1

[@zacharybosley1935]

I just want to offer my sincerest gratitude for one editing decision you've made. Thank you for, in the face of a truly obnoxious wave of outrage following Spider-Man 2 Discourse, making a point to call Spider-Man Spider-Man in the subtitles. It's deeply comforting to know that there's a reasonable population of Spider-Man fans who know that Spider-Man is Spider-Man.

[@Chubby_Runs]

21:44 this sin is especially stupid because they’re separate fucking events, losing a close friend or relative to inspire a spider person to become Spider-Man and losing a captain close to them are separate events

[@superkid3188]

Ned from the MCU is just Ganke, but for Peter. In the comics Ned and Peter met at work, they were close enough that he went to Ned's wedding, but beyond that they weren't really friends outside of work, Ned was also a domestic abuser, which was later retconned to be the result of hypnosis, alongside his time as the Hobgoblin. (Which is the most BS cop-out way to absolve Edward.)

[@v.v365]

14:44 I didn’t know that about spiders or Spider-Man, that’s super cool! That’s something I gotta work into my Spidersona stuff

[@dkpent]

I still hate the fact that no one states how Peter b CHOOSES NOT TO FIGHT MILES by breaking off and gets ahead of everyone. If Peter was in on the chase? Miles is caught

[@indifference1015]

Jeremy really is a glutton for punishment at this point.

[@FatedHandJonathon]

10:40 Also, this isn't a random reference to a popular movie, it has context. They're poking fun at the fact that "Home Trilogy" Ned is explicitly inspired by Ganke from the comics. Comic Ganke is literally the original "guy in the chair".

[@zach1997ism]

21:30 Jeremy making fun of the fact that the spot is lame is literally the whole reason that spot went through the whole upgrade with this powers. Because he wanted to be taken seriously by miles

[@Nickyc997]

2:35 this is exactly my argument for keeping everything they were gonna do for kang exactly the same with a new actor if they have to fire him for the assault shit theres no reason they cant say "this one just looks different" if there can be a female loki there can be a different looking kang

[@sly_cat]

22:40 there’s also the fact most of them are still fucking around, one was still mid therapy visit and a couple of them just kept eating and working out.

[@RenjiAbarai777]

With all the insane and faulty sins they did, how could they not do "The portrayal of Miguel O'Hara in this film is problematic as casual fans will come to believe that he is always portrayed like this." Seriously Miguel was worthy to wield Mjolnir. 'Nuff Said.

[@maefromnitw]

not really the movie's fault that some people are going to wrongly assume something

[@thesaltdragon]

23:30 another point is that while yes, Miles's actions somewhat caused him to become Spiderman, something CS misses is that while it might not be Miles's fault, Miguel doesn't see it that way. He lost everything to the continuity, and openly seeing Miles straight up deny to follow the canon events is like an insult to him. It feels like Miles is putting down Miguel's trauma as nothing because*he* can do it where Miguel couldn't. Miguel is furious at this point, and probably even blames Miles for his continuity event a bit. Even if someone placed the spider on top of Miles for it to bite him Miguel would still hate him. (Also, as a side note, he's clearly projecting his self hatred at Miles in this scene)

[@cosmo8720]

It is here!!! Thanks for the video Birdman!

[@arinwolfe4853]

20:33 Something rather neat I want to point out about this scene is that it's most likely that this version of the prowler is from earth 199999. (Or adjacent earth but I personally hope not.) Which I think is awesome considering we haven't yet gotten to see that in any movies take place in that universe so this makes for some awesome foreshadowing. Which could also mean that the MCU is going to have a version of Miles Morales, potentially one that also becomes a spider man.

[@mobgabriel1767]

Its confirmed that It is prowler 199999

[@wingblade6023]

2:05 Thank you, I am so glad I'm not the only one that does this. I literally have a second bowl that I dump all of the pretzels into while I eat Munchies.

[@Extreme2566]

19:33 I like the multiverse birdmen especially the music one😂😂😂😂

[@dbzfan6900]

7:08 the fact that I like both venom movies and corn on pizza is making me feel kinda bad about myself 😂😂😂😭😂

[@Chaos0310]

Never had corn on pizza before but both venom movies are really fun. Probably not good comic adaptations but just good fun in my opinion. Sometimes it’s ok to say the books don’t matter.

[@redacted4182]

22:35 Also, fact check me on this if I'm wrong, if i remember throughout the whole chase. All the other spider-people were on the offense while Miles was on the defense so his spider sense was playing a key factor in him being able to escape.

[@kenji6492]

I knew about the spit valve in saxophones because I grew up playing brass instruments. Also there would have already been a Spider-Totem in 1610-B because it already had a Spider-Man when Miles was bitten. 42 is a world with a Spider-Totem but no Spider-Man, hence its chaotic breakdown in the year and a half since the spider vanished.

[@dragoniccrab]

I love the alternate universes of the Birdman bit you did. Can't wait to see Th3Birdman15 Multiverse

[@RevengeoftheBallen831]

Birdman has finally accepted the fact that Morbius truly was one of, if not *the* movie of all time, after his initial review.

[@Darxxxide]

"If you know you know, and if you don't you'll complain in my comment section." Real talk. That's worth at least a fiver. Merry Christmas.

[@sunnydsyoutube]

Th3Birdpeak my favorite youtuber finally covering my favorite movie fr

[@otr23kb]

Your ITSV video was how i found out about your channel and subsequently became my favouite video of yours. glad this one lived up to it 🔥

[@snbks4ever]

great video!!! loved the creativity, the editing. I remember half way through just checking the time and thinking awesome this is a longer video. Loved Across the Spider-verse and that ending there telling Mel to shut up b*tch via the Rock was icing on the cake. Can't wait for the next one

[@LightingbladeShen]

Miguel: "the Canon Event has to happen. You HAVE to fail saving your parent cop captain, Miles. So instead I'm going to prevent you from following the canon (IE attempt to save the captain figure) like a proper canon breaking vampire spiderman" Spectacular: "I can't ever look the other way..oh schnikt, wrong universe, I mean, "'its the truth miles" Also, nah Jeremy, ya didn't just sin anything involving the best character in the movie, Hobie Brown who I knew off , but this movie absolutely made me fall in love with the character.

[@Evanz111]

Damn! I only just watched this for the first time, so incredible timing! I watched it with my mum who has no knowledge of Marvel/Sony or animated stuff and even she loved it!

[@jackofalltraits2145]

24:09 As a Spider-Man junkie myself, I’m not part of half the audience you lost. I hear “Spider-Totem” and I’m immediately invested. I’m assuming it’s from the Spider-Verse comic run, along with the “Web of Destiny”.

[@firepuppies4086]

And I'm pretty sure the Web of Life and Destiny has BEEN a thing for... Yeah I believe Madame Webb mentioned it in the 90s cartoon

[@zacharybosley1935]

I hope that the Web of Destiny gets properly invoked at some point, but given the nature of this trilogy's direction, I'm thinking that's a far shot in Beyond. That said, what we've gotten instead is way better than I expected.

[@turbkeysamdwich1880]

4:33 ALSO (I’m pretty sure) the Spider-Society didn’t exist during the first movie.

[@ParisianPrince02]

I think my favorite part of this vid is seeing your process and setup… dunno if you’ve done it yet but if you could share what your setup is and what tech you’re using… greatly appreciated… now I gotta press play! Lol

[@Th3Birdman]

Equipment used (along with links to purchase every single item I use) is in the description! Also, the live voiceover is available for Channel Members. It's been up for two days already. Join and you can access the vid!

[@mrstabtoxic]

This intro to your video is such a good way to show what your channel is like vs the haters

[@SalemWolf]

There was also one additional reason the Spider-people had trouble catching Miles: they weren't used to working as a team, at least not many of them. For the majority of them they're a solo act, most of them got in each other's way, giving Miles the chance to escape.

6:13 When Hammerspace showed up when I watched ATSV in the cinema, I was thinking that Jeremy would've *removed* a sin for it, so this CS sin was really satisfying.

[@DiamondBatToons]

Words can't describe how hyped I've been for this video! It's finally here!! Also, major respect for that "Earth-1218" edit, why you don't have more subs, is a complete mystery.

[@XxShadow101xX]

15:00, JEREMY MISSED THE ENTIRE MORAL OF THE STORY. Miles fights to show Miguel that NOT ALL "CANON EVENTS" HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE!! What the actual hell, does this guy take stupid pills?

[@Stardust_Lei978]

3:25 Ay, drummer here! The real sin is that Gwen only has a single wingnut holding the rim of her bass drum there, as opposed to all 8 or no rim at all. Uneven tension like that will cause the bass drum to warp over time.

[@thatguyfromA6915]

as someone who likes venom 1 and 2 i can say that i hate corn but i do love me a good pizza also 25:25 i never thought of that but it make so much sense

[@ShadowStylez]

I actually like the pretzels in Munchies for the added texture and as for flavor, I consider them the base since they're the blandest thing in the bag. As for pretzels by themselves, fuhgeddaboutit.

[@razorshark9702]

2:08 I just grab some mustard and eat all the pretzels out the bag first😭

[@Th3Birdman]

Ayyyy

[@Moonlord2193]

Been waiting for this ever since I finished the movie

[@DarkestSquall]

The perfect distraction while waiting for my dmc5 video to upload!! 💚

[@kgmotte2363]

I Opened this Vid Thinking "The Balls they have of even THINKING about Sinning this Movie" and Th3Birdman did not disappoint with his First 15 Sins! Perfection!

[@RaikanaAF]

“Miles morales issssss Mil- SHUT BIT-” is the best thing ever

[@OrgXIII_]

8:20 “Gonna Cry”? 😂😂

[@alexspace9878]

Love the callout on why Margo would help Miles out in the go home machine.

[@Vegitodraws]

16:59 moreover, if Jeremy bothered to read the fucking books or even a wiki page for that matter, Spider sense only works when the person or situation around them poses a potential threat. That's why once the venom symbiote detached itself from Peter, that Spider-Man can't sense Eddie (because his Spider-sense no longer detects the symbiote as a danger). Oh, random fact, this also makes Spider-Man criminally good at poker because his semse sees the loss of money as a threat.

[@ruthiewitter569]

1:11 seconds of *gorgeous* logos, ahem.

[@SSL_2004]

20:06 The one bus that's in danger Jeremy?? The ONE bus Jeremy?? A BUILDING IS FALLING FROM THE SKY JEREMY

[@jomiis.]

I’ve been waiting on this one

[@omarimus2260]

10:56 Jeremy fails to take into account that clocks can be wrong, every clock in my school has the wrong time due to my school being broke

[@platypusplayer_0630]

I've been waiting for this!

[@OmnicidalClown1992]

10:13 "A moment of silence for Jeremy's last brain cell." *Me bowing my head in silence. Seconds later; That was fun.

[@GobblyGook]

I am genuinely confused on why Jeremy is sinning the fact that the first half of the movie is more family drama then Spiderman. Both me and everyone I've asked really enjoys that part, and my dad especially really felt for the parents 😅

[@finnsword8286]

His short attention span.

[@Chuck_EL]

​​​@@finnsword8286 @ 10:21 Shows Jeremy never had a relationship or a mutual crush as a teenager Especially for artistic teenagers that's very common

[@ReikoWrld]

I’m so glad this channel exist, you point out so much that I can catch details I haven’t on the first or second watch

[@phantomthedragoness]

10:58 that clock thing I will never hold against Spiderverse. It actually feels more realistic. Every day in high school, at least one clock was broken, not on time, etc. The teachers just didn't care to fix them and students didn't ask as we checked the correct time in our laptops, tablets and/or phones.

[@jrios29]

When I think I can't love The Birdman any more that I already do, he includes Kurt Angle in his video! 20:30

[@Chuck_EL]

Oh it's true , it's damn true!!! Wooo tap!!!

[@HornAndHaloWrestling]

​@@Chuck_EL He won a medal with a broken freakin neck you know!

[@maefromnitw]

sinning daniel kaluuya for his accent is interesting

[@DurtyDan]

I find it funny you used Melony Macs' clip for your little ending gag as opposed to someone more relevant to the discussion of Miles as Spider-Man. Which, yes, i know he's A Spider-Man.