Everything Wrong with Command and Conquer Generals' Vehicle Design

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Spookston

Spookston

Күн бұрын

Command and Conquer Generals (2003) is a great game. A lot of people have asked me to talk about it as part of the "Everything Wrong with" series, but with how low the detail is on the vehicle models, and how they're based off of real tanks, I didn't have a whole lot to say. I hope the video is good regardless. I talk about tanks from each faction (USA, China, GLA).
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Command & Conquer Generals Soundtrack all USA / WA themes 01 - 11
Halo 3: ODST - Rain (Deference for Darkness)
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Пікірлер: 946
@saidag
@saidag 4 жыл бұрын
US Dozer: "I can build anywhere" Also US Dozer: "Sorry, I can't build there"
@jacksonyesjustjackson6957
@jacksonyesjustjackson6957 4 жыл бұрын
we've been there
@zdn12327
@zdn12327 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@murpi338
@murpi338 4 жыл бұрын
Ooo... can't do that
@n0denz
@n0denz 4 жыл бұрын
Damn unions...
@nakajimastriker62
@nakajimastriker62 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@reaperox_
@reaperox_ 4 жыл бұрын
The insides of most tractors, especially of that size, have enough room for two
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 жыл бұрын
that's what she said -_-
@anatolydyatlov6182
@anatolydyatlov6182 4 жыл бұрын
@@whoelsebutmeofcoursei your mom?
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@@anatolydyatlov6182 ye
@AlexWithington
@AlexWithington 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would be possible
@killian9314
@killian9314 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but, Fucking.
@captinobvious4705
@captinobvious4705 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the GLA's Scorpion Tank is pretty much an Italian P26/40 heavy.
@lol500000
@lol500000 4 жыл бұрын
"Heavy"
@panzerforelle126
@panzerforelle126 4 жыл бұрын
2and900 - War Thunder Weekly technically, it was designed to be as powerful as the Tiger I and enough armoured to withstand the T-34
@nahuelleandroarroyo
@nahuelleandroarroyo 4 жыл бұрын
The P is from heavy in italian, Pesado
@emperorkane317
@emperorkane317 4 жыл бұрын
With a 30mm chaingun
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 4 жыл бұрын
@@panzerforelle126 It was designed to be an early 1940s heavy, and compared to say a B1 Bis it was an heavy even weight wise. But since Italian classification was based on role and not weight, and after discovering the wonders of sloped armour with the T-34, the Italians delayed production to completely remake the design, it was kind of outdated role wise. And by saying they remade the design I mean that the earlier P40s looked nothing like the late ones. The earliest was planned to weight 25 tons have flat 50 mm thick armour and a 47/32 gun with a 20/65 coaxial, but afterwards they wanted to mount a 6 pounder (Italy was retiring the naval version of that gun and wanted to recycle it on tanks); then they remade it into a 30 ton multi turreted design with 40 mm of slightly sloped armour, a 75/18 in the main turret and a 20/65 in a smaller turret; until finally they settled on the P26 design.
@fetusdeletus9266
@fetusdeletus9266 4 жыл бұрын
We all know that these aren’t tanks These are armored lunch boxes with guns
@whatthefuckisthis7
@whatthefuckisthis7 4 жыл бұрын
Fetus deletus that’s called an fmg-9
@WindiChilliwack
@WindiChilliwack 4 жыл бұрын
@@whatthefuckisthis7 *Looks at old Scorpion tank*
@deinekes9
@deinekes9 4 жыл бұрын
And I guess they maneuver by having the commander stick his hand out of the hatch?
@vindirect
@vindirect 4 жыл бұрын
with tubes*
@xsonohx7961
@xsonohx7961 4 жыл бұрын
"lunch boxes with guns" roblox tank
@FirehawkSHD
@FirehawkSHD 4 жыл бұрын
"Preserving Freedom" - Paladin Tank
@NTAD
@NTAD 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a mod that would change it to "Dispensing Freedom" :
@Starfleet8555
@Starfleet8555 4 жыл бұрын
"Enemies of the Free World"
@PaiSAMSEN
@PaiSAMSEN 4 жыл бұрын
"Paladin Tank in the field"
@Fish-kz8xw
@Fish-kz8xw 4 жыл бұрын
Scorpion Tank: scorpion ready to sting!
@frankgraham4382
@frankgraham4382 4 жыл бұрын
@Lucas Worden Actually i am pretty sure he says buckle up.
@talonharibon8577
@talonharibon8577 4 жыл бұрын
No love for the Battlemaster makes me sad. Then again it's just a straight up T-55/62/69 w/e design so yeah.
@vaelophisnyx9873
@vaelophisnyx9873 4 жыл бұрын
the expansion's models might be a better topic to cover. more content and mods with new, improved models.
@drthrax78
@drthrax78 4 жыл бұрын
We have China's blessing!
@brianlance8263
@brianlance8263 4 жыл бұрын
He also missed the Gattling Tank even though it is just a Gattling Gun on a flat tank base
@LazyAndFabulous
@LazyAndFabulous 4 жыл бұрын
But it looks outdated compare to US tanks. and if this is used in the modern era, those tanks wouldn't survive RPGs or any equipment that can give problems to any armored vehicles.
@PaiSAMSEN
@PaiSAMSEN 4 жыл бұрын
True, and I'm sure devs know about the Type-96 at the time. However, from gameplay point of view, they probably need a tank that is visually unique enough, and the Type-59 et.al. provide a more unique look than Type-96 did. (Remember that this game was made in 2003, back when 800 x 600 monitor are still pretty common) In any cases, the Battlemaster have several different from Type-59 family that it could have its own entry here. - Its frontal armor is much steeper than Type-59, or any MBT for that matter, and The turret is much further to the front. It look like this is a normal Type-59 hull with shortened front armor...for whatever reasons. In any case, an armor that steep without clear sign of composite armor is a big vulnerable spot for modern MBT. - They are also a big black thingy on top of the turret, above gunner's position. Infrared search light? Remote MG turret? Rocket launcher? I can't tell what it is since it's not detailed enough. - Autoloader is an optional upgrade...which make the gun fire 3-round burst somehow.
@shaftoe195
@shaftoe195 4 жыл бұрын
Spookston: berates poor vehicle design Also Spookston: places all his generators as close to each other as possible. _Well engineered, sir._
@ponyfucker3427
@ponyfucker3427 4 жыл бұрын
I always loved about gla how their vechicles have some variety to them so they look like they are improvised and made out of scrap. -technicals, quad cannons, i think scorpions and maybe marauders too but not sure.
@katier9725
@katier9725 2 жыл бұрын
Also the Scud Launcher and, in ZH, the Battle Bus. And nearly all GLA vehicles in ZH could upgrade with salvage to bolt on bigger guns or additional armour plates.
@coneinggaming6285
@coneinggaming6285 2 жыл бұрын
Man I also Loved that the toxin tractor is a mobile war crime enjoyer and caused
@nailedthepotato1941
@nailedthepotato1941 Жыл бұрын
@@coneinggaming6285 you also have the mail guy and the crowd lover
@pougetguillaume4632
@pougetguillaume4632 4 жыл бұрын
Mammoth tank: *exists* Spookston: "oi, i'm stopping you right here"
@shaftoe195
@shaftoe195 4 жыл бұрын
Spookston: *gets rolled over by said Overlord/Mammoth tank*
@pougetguillaume4632
@pougetguillaume4632 4 жыл бұрын
Spookston: *while reenacting the tank man in tian'anmen* noooooo you can't make a game entirely out of memes C&C: ahah balloon waifu goes kirov reporting
@NexusWarior211
@NexusWarior211 4 жыл бұрын
Maurader*
@lordhamster9452
@lordhamster9452 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaftoe195 “unstoppable!” “Role over them!” [Mammoth]
@lordhamster9452
@lordhamster9452 4 жыл бұрын
@@pougetguillaume4632 and comrade dreadnought “serves Soviet Union” While in the middle east, chemistry became highly developed science.
@tramachi7027
@tramachi7027 4 жыл бұрын
Ah. The nonspacing of the reactors makes me go apeshit here :D Also I have to digress with the Scorpion. It always reminded me of the Italian WW2 tanks. Like the P40, P26, etc. Especially since they saw extensive use in desert conditions and the GLA is supposedly from more arid, arabian/North African-ish desert regions
@aegeanharrier6648
@aegeanharrier6648 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah.Never thought about that.It really reminds me of a P40
@thedarkzibba7059
@thedarkzibba7059 4 жыл бұрын
P26s never saw combat in North Africa
@yeefoongphoon8505
@yeefoongphoon8505 4 жыл бұрын
For me, it reminds me of a Ha-Go tank to a certain degree.
@FelixUmbra
@FelixUmbra 4 жыл бұрын
Don't need to space the reactors if you have enough AA and keep popping their Nuke. Lol. "Aurora in flight."x4
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 4 жыл бұрын
@@aegeanharrier6648 looks even more like this proposed upgrade to the M14/M15 to me: pl.pinterest.com/pin/550705860656459370/
@NTAD
@NTAD 4 жыл бұрын
Putting a Speakuh Towuh on an Overlord automatically negates anything wrong with it.
@evanbasham4875
@evanbasham4875 4 жыл бұрын
Iiiiiiiii don't know man, the bunker was pretty good. Have 2 overlords with bunkers filled with "Foah China!" rifleman and rocket launchers was fun.
@plainlake
@plainlake 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that
@PaiSAMSEN
@PaiSAMSEN 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, Gatling Overlord is da best. You can never have enough dakka.
@LtCWest
@LtCWest 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaiSAMSEN And it com's out red frum da factory, so its fasta too! Ya jus need git that glowy thing in da engine, the one tha makes gretchin grow 3 times bigga!
@dharmdevil
@dharmdevil 4 жыл бұрын
@@LtCWest jusy get tank general and get both
@azure2621
@azure2621 4 жыл бұрын
The overlord is just a modern vt1-2
@aegeanharrier6648
@aegeanharrier6648 4 жыл бұрын
AT least VT1-2 is fast.Overlord is really weak against Aırplane.Its more of a Modern Maus but even an easier target
@tntproductions1996
@tntproductions1996 4 жыл бұрын
@@aegeanharrier6648 The Overlord tank can mount a gatling gun on top of the turret to kill aircraft and infantry, but it would still be very slow and a big target, so it just gets killed by artillery.
@glacier4286
@glacier4286 4 жыл бұрын
@@tntproductions1996 Raptors can snipe it before its gatlings had a chance to spool up.
@kayagorzan
@kayagorzan 4 жыл бұрын
Hanz gott drunk in ze Panzer azembling faktori
@tntproductions1996
@tntproductions1996 4 жыл бұрын
@@glacier4286 The F-22 Raptor is an Air Superiority fighter, and while it can do air to ground missions, other aircraft are much more likely to do air to ground attacks. The A-10 would do just fine as long as there are no SAMs in the area. I think the gatling gun can also act as a point defense weapon to shoot down missiles but not bombs or tank shells, kind of like a CIWS on land.
@fatpython8920
@fatpython8920 4 жыл бұрын
America during lockdown:ak 47’s for everyone
@seanwaddell2659
@seanwaddell2659 4 жыл бұрын
Michigan: *visible sweating*
@haryharyono2949
@haryharyono2949 4 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaeeehhhhh........!!!!
@tylerchiu7065
@tylerchiu7065 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, they would probably hand out ar-15s to everyone, because it's more american than the russian assult rifle
@youroverlord6937
@youroverlord6937 4 жыл бұрын
COUNTER STRIKE FOR KIDS! *insert victory sound from fnaf
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerchiu7065 brooo....it has nothing to do with patriotism, people buy all sorts of gun there, but... youre half-right, huh. that is the most sold gun over there
@EvoSwatch
@EvoSwatch 4 жыл бұрын
"Battlemaster Tank reporting!" -China's Battlemaster "Let's give em an air show." -US Raptor "Aw, okay okay i will work." -GLA Slave Memorable one: "Can i have some shoes?"
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
"Thank you for the new shoes!"
@jerrell1169
@jerrell1169 4 жыл бұрын
“OUR WAY IS TRUE” and “HURRIYAH!” For the rebel And “A new hood ornament” for the techie.
@StarReveurMA
@StarReveurMA 4 жыл бұрын
"Thank you for the new shoes~"
@redalertiscool5172
@redalertiscool5172 4 жыл бұрын
one sentence: shuld i push the button
@bighaley6882
@bighaley6882 4 жыл бұрын
"I WILL SUCK THE INTERNET DRY" - The Chinese hacker
@Tienhamir100
@Tienhamir100 4 жыл бұрын
Chinese Dragon tank. "I don't see much wrong with this one" ~looks up at the tank~ *God damn, you're tall!*
@MortarGuyX
@MortarGuyX 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, I don't remember the marauder tank every having a rotating turret.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
It's more of a self-propelled gun than a tank.
@thirstyserpent1079
@thirstyserpent1079 4 жыл бұрын
The gla commander ability tank didn't have a rotating turret, the scorpion did but not the marauder.
@bushmonsterwilhelm6716
@bushmonsterwilhelm6716 4 жыл бұрын
In Rise of the Reds. It can. Vanilla? Nope
@kirra9152
@kirra9152 4 жыл бұрын
The marauder tank upgrade remind me of soviet spg from ww2. Forgot the type though.
@MortarGuyX
@MortarGuyX 4 жыл бұрын
@@kirra9152 Su 85?
@StorMRagE4EVA
@StorMRagE4EVA 3 жыл бұрын
Also the paladin is a real tank, it's mobile field artillery, that was meant to help replace the old howitzers in heavy field combat
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 4 жыл бұрын
3:54 To me it looks like an M2 medium tank missing its 9 machine guns.
@dasillosa
@dasillosa 4 жыл бұрын
I think it resembles more the M13/40.
@SuomenJaakaripataljoona
@SuomenJaakaripataljoona 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Rise of the Reds tanks? (Mod for Generals: Zero Hour) some are redesigned and even more units Especially the addition of European and Russian factions Edit: There’s also Wiki for the mod which also gives lore of each unit. To make it easier
@admiraledward5557
@admiraledward5557 4 жыл бұрын
The Marauder looks like the TOG 2
@the_corvid97
@the_corvid97 4 жыл бұрын
When the GLA try to cover both naval and armoured warfare at once.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
It's Centurion hull and tracks.
@WorldofTanks48
@WorldofTanks48 4 жыл бұрын
Although TOG 2 is a lot longer and narrower
@paveantelic7876
@paveantelic7876 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like a shorter and wider tog 2. There was actually a concept for the tog 3 that looks similar
@PerfectJayDread
@PerfectJayDread 4 жыл бұрын
Spooks you should look at Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak you won’t be disappointed!
@LtCWest
@LtCWest 4 жыл бұрын
Id bet a 10er hes going to completely ignore the fact that the planet has lower gravity then Earth. Not that it matters though, those "cruisers" are ridiculously huge ^^
@vaelophisnyx9873
@vaelophisnyx9873 4 жыл бұрын
@@LtCWest low gravity does not excuse bad design. that said, given the situation on Kharak, some of the vehicles do make sense in the context given.
@cyroostetherington3335
@cyroostetherington3335 4 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMYYYYYY GOOOOOOD. No one ever talks about CCG. It’s the best CC game imo. Thanks so much for making it
@The_Crimson_Fucker
@The_Crimson_Fucker 4 жыл бұрын
The Scorpion looks like some of the Czech tanks of WW2, maybe even Italian? I believe the Marauder is basically a kustom' T-54/55 or maybe an M26?
@ANDREALEONE95
@ANDREALEONE95 4 жыл бұрын
Scorpion looks like a WW2 Italian tank.
@miloskaluznik48
@miloskaluznik48 4 жыл бұрын
That's either LT vz. 35 or, which is more likeky, M/15/42.
@The_Crimson_Fucker
@The_Crimson_Fucker 4 жыл бұрын
@@miloskaluznik48 I was actually thinking more along the lines of the P40, the P40 looks almost exactly dead on. The M15/42 would make more sense(being that they could be salvage from the North Africa campaign) but the P40 _looks_ almost exactly like it. Maybe a P40 with na M15/42 turret? Edit: but then again, that armor looks bolted on so it could be a salvaged M15/42 with aplique armor that makes it look more like a P40. It would actually make a lot of sense...minus the fact that T-54s would probably be more available.
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 4 жыл бұрын
To me it looks like an M2 of all things, just missing the trillion machine guns. Mostly because of the turret shape. I don't really see how it would look like an Italian tank, except maybe for the P26/40, but that's based on the T-34 anyway.
@Lorohn
@Lorohn 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they're supposed to be real-life tanks. My best guess is that they're made in workshops with whatever is available.
@NorthKoreaUncovered
@NorthKoreaUncovered 4 жыл бұрын
“Everything wrong with North Korean tanks” 🙂
@yuligamein5502
@yuligamein5502 4 жыл бұрын
dude that whould be a 9 second video...he whould just post pcitures on screen of them..if there are any..and say "..everything"..then videos ends
@jerrell1169
@jerrell1169 4 жыл бұрын
No fuel can’t drive
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, i don't get none of you... NK literally uses cold war Soviet tanks, nothing special to see, move along
@NorthKoreaUncovered
@NorthKoreaUncovered 4 жыл бұрын
Akimbo Madman you couldn’t possibly be more incorrect. North Korea uses several indigenous designs based on the T-62 Chassis. The Chonma-Ho (which is the most similar to a T-62), the Pokpung-Ho with it’s smaller, T-90 esque turret, and the Songun-Ho with it’s pronounced hemishpherical turret to help it cope with NK’s mountainous terrain in lieu of hydraulic suspension. The latter two are drastic departures from their soviet origins, and are worthy of discussion. I’m not trying to be mean, but at least try to have some general knowledge about a topic before making assumptions. Otherwise you just look stupid.
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 жыл бұрын
@@NorthKoreaUncovered Yes you be mean :(
@desertfox2403
@desertfox2403 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 - 0:03 Messing up a historical fact point in a public facing KZbin video
@proselyteethan
@proselyteethan 4 жыл бұрын
I know you don't typically do mod vehicle analysis, but the Contra mod for Generals redesigned all of the vehicles and has quite a few interesting ones such as super units for each faction, anyways, fantastic video.
@brothercharanus1927
@brothercharanus1927 3 жыл бұрын
"Its very hot in here." -Dragon tank
@park3973
@park3973 4 жыл бұрын
Spookston : Ah Overlord, Another quad track! Apocalypse tank : There is ANOTHER
@someguy4425
@someguy4425 4 жыл бұрын
"Guns are too far apart" Cries in VT1-2
@kennethflores9657
@kennethflores9657 4 жыл бұрын
"How about a show of force" - Crusader tank
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 жыл бұрын
The twin-gun design is from the Marksman, an anti-air gun vehicle. In that, spacing the guns makes sense since it relies on fast firing and shrapnel to hit fast moving low armored targets. It also does look badass.
@ADRIAAN1007
@ADRIAAN1007 4 жыл бұрын
Muzzle breaks have another purpose beyond recoil reduction. The main purpose is to redirect gasses to the sides of the barrel to stop it kicking up too much dust infront of the tank as to not block gunner vision for quick followup shots.
@sharcruiserw3733
@sharcruiserw3733 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Clansy’s: Endwar tanks next? Upgraded and stock, they offer weird tactics unlike what the real countries used #4
@mandalorian_guy
@mandalorian_guy 3 жыл бұрын
Also the American Tank is called the Schwarzkopf, which is what I think the next US design should be called if it's ever made.
@Grasyl
@Grasyl 4 жыл бұрын
3:58 I think the Scorpion tank is some kind of inspired by the Great War FT-17
@fangabxyfangabxy8563
@fangabxyfangabxy8563 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I can anticipate some problems you might have with RA3’s vehicle design (tsunami and paladin tank suffer from tri-tracks, wave force artillery is a half-track, mecha, mecha, mecha but with tank tracks so that it has no mecha or tank advantages, assault destroyer is a boat with quad-tracks, etc) but it would be nice to see you do one. Also it would be cool to see you talk about the Landmaster from Starfox even though it’s just one vehicle and inconsistently portrayed... and probably more akin to a meme in terms of tank design.
@adnanadil4498
@adnanadil4498 4 жыл бұрын
Very detailed video! Well done! :)
@prestongarvey4396
@prestongarvey4396 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I loved this game! If only they would remaster it with updated graphics.
@amongous6913
@amongous6913 Жыл бұрын
Try general evolution
@archvilethe87th60
@archvilethe87th60 4 жыл бұрын
The Chinese gatling tank looks like a T249 Vigilante.
@MrRed_2205
@MrRed_2205 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see love for this game! Great video
@_mvn
@_mvn 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the new shoes!
@leonpeters-malone3054
@leonpeters-malone3054 4 жыл бұрын
If you've taking suggestions, I'd like to see the tanks from Ground Control 1, well, the whole series really. Ground Control 1 might have a bit of an issue on the polygon count. There's some pretty good design in there and some..... well, not so good.
@colcheeky
@colcheeky 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out, that point-defence laser technology does currently exist. One of the biggest applications of laser weaponry, is on the USS Ponce, with a weapon designed to combat weak smaller targets. So it’s certainly plausible in the near future for tanks to be equipped with anti-missile lasers. Also, Command & Conquer Generals is set in a universe with fusion power (Which we currently haven’t been able to effectively utilise yet), fully optimised laser tanks (Laser General), and microwave tanks (Microwave weapons exist, but aren’t used much, and are still a relatively new concept). So it’s reasonable to assume that Generals could be set in the near future. Ironically, this makes the tank design flaws worse. Anyway, nice video, just wanted to mention these quick facts.
@ANDREALEONE95
@ANDREALEONE95 4 жыл бұрын
The in-game chronology set in 2010s .
@ndclub67
@ndclub67 4 жыл бұрын
I clicked on expecting a visual course on video game imagery (how to spot unique units at a glance and make them memorable etc) but I stayed and learned something.
@JazzJaRa
@JazzJaRa 4 жыл бұрын
1:08 looks more like the front of an PzKpfw IV to me, especially with the two hatches there for the transmission. But well it is hard to make high polycount models for a game like that, and even more so back when the game was created. So you just do things like optics or scopes as a texture and have to size tem up so that they are visible.
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 4 жыл бұрын
can you do the "Rise of the Reds" mod's tanks too?
@jackmarshallD9525
@jackmarshallD9525 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Spooks. Thank you for doing this. ❤️
@harrygrant4122
@harrygrant4122 4 жыл бұрын
Man am i glad you did this, this game made so much of my childhood
@Abdukctkaz
@Abdukctkaz 4 жыл бұрын
The vehicles from Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak could be nice.
@CharcharoExplorer
@CharcharoExplorer 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Battlemaster ;d ? Its boring I know. A type 69/59 wannabe. I still have hope for War Front's vehicles. I refreshed the Wikia with 5K screenshots of its vehicles.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
I think he didn't do that one because it's a solid design? Then again, he didn't mention the Gattling Tank either...
@emperorkane317
@emperorkane317 4 жыл бұрын
It`s just a Type 69/59 with a nuclear engine. He would just need a picture of a real one and analyse that
@yashkasheriff9325
@yashkasheriff9325 4 жыл бұрын
I just noticed, the Crusader tank has the hatches of a Panzer III on it's front hull. One appears to be a split-hatch design taken straight from the Pz. III's turret, and the other hatch on the tank's left seems to be an emergency escape hatch that was in the side hull of the Pz. III under the tracks.
@ryanvanwyk4020
@ryanvanwyk4020 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Spookston i love your videos and i just wanted to give a suggestion for some video game tanks/vehicles to review. I thought it could be cool to look at the vehicles in Unreal Tournament 3, there is a main battle tank (Goliath) and some other combat vehicles like the Scorpion, Hellbender and Paladin as well as the Leviathan which is a bit crazy and not really a tank but still a cool design.
@tssteelx
@tssteelx 4 жыл бұрын
"Can I have some shoes?"
@ANDREALEONE95
@ANDREALEONE95 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm hungry"
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, lemme just research them at the Black Market...
@nichsulol4844
@nichsulol4844 3 жыл бұрын
extra armor basically shoe on trackwheel
@Epicredeemer
@Epicredeemer 4 жыл бұрын
this game was my childhood. thank you so much for covering it
@Morgomir09
@Morgomir09 4 жыл бұрын
The Marauder tank is not any actual real world vehicle, its a build your own tank out of various parts, a set of dozer treads, some howitzer barrels (lorewise 155mm) and slapping some very basic plating onto the vehicle, once it gets some salvage it gets a little better armor, but mostly improves in the speed department, its fairly fragile as a result of it being a scratch built vehicle but packs a punch, in combat it is basically a tank destroyer
@Commanderhurtz1
@Commanderhurtz1 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Spooks! I have a request, could you take a look at the vehicles from Homeworld : Deserts of Kharak? The Coalition in the game have all wheeled units, while the Gaalsiens have all hovercrafs. Since it's a desert, I want to know your take on that.
@MrJeanBeam
@MrJeanBeam 4 жыл бұрын
How about you Cover Supreme Commander forged alliance Vehicles
@bificommander
@bificommander 4 жыл бұрын
"Now, as for the Megalith's ground pressure: AAAAARGHHH, MY EYES, IT BURNS!"
@Sudsram
@Sudsram 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao brining back memories from 2003 😭
@Seeras
@Seeras 4 жыл бұрын
The first stage of the Marauder Tank looks a bit like a TOG II Would be cool if you also talk about the other C&C universes.
@gunkyh5557
@gunkyh5557 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, the models design' issues were always an interesting topic, and for me as well. I'm glad someone made a video about this!
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of it is because the SAGE engine was top of the line for an RTS game... back in 2003. It aged REAL poorly in that regard. Due to all the stuff they had to make it do, the engine had a lot of problems like having a good six Comanches doing a rocket barrage would cause the engine to bug out for those Comanches for the duration of the barrage (rockets disappearing, trails disappearing, that sort of thing). The engine would also start becoming problematic if you have too many units on the field as well. You can get mods with that engine rather easily, the problem is that it is pretty restrictive on how you can do things. Tiberium Wars' version of SAGE was far better but still had some problems. The less to say of RA3's engine, the better. I've been forum-mates of one of the Paradox Mod developers and the horror stories of what they had to do to make the mod work are scary. Even then they would get solutions that don't work half the time at best (the tales of trying to get the Confederates SSG to work is particularly horrifying).
@jordan115v4
@jordan115v4 4 жыл бұрын
Hey nice vid, also can you do a everything wrong with the mechanic from halo like the mantis or grunt goblin
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
4:25 The Panther's turret was actually kind of an issue as it was pretty small for the size gun that was in it. That made handling the big heavy rounds really awkward and really cut into it's sustained rate of fire.
@TheJasonDonald
@TheJasonDonald 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! Keep up the great videos!! Wanted to ask will you ever create a video talking or ripping on the tanks from Call of Duty Advanced Warfare? Just thought I ask :b
@naibakie8519
@naibakie8519 4 жыл бұрын
Muzzle breaks are fit to large calibre cannons all the time to stop them blowing a big cloud of smoke out the front and blinding themselves.
@NevaranUniverse
@NevaranUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
The muzzel break is not used for recoil but to hide tanks better by distributing the smoke that gets pushed out to the side instead of forward (though I know that this was used for AAA, and am unsure about tanks)
@Farrell461
@Farrell461 4 жыл бұрын
Could you discuss the practicality of drop troopers? Like ODST's or Starship Troopers. Maybe also discuss the practicality of metal armor for foot soldiers, such as the armor the marines wear in Halo.
@vaelophisnyx9873
@vaelophisnyx9873 4 жыл бұрын
iirc the armor marines wear in halo is designed to not instantly burst into flames on contact with plasma from covenant weapons. Thus the obvious, cheap option: metal and metalized ceramics.
@DavidBarkland
@DavidBarkland 4 жыл бұрын
The practicality of drop troops depend 100% on what technology is available. If we assume basically just improved engines and materials compared to what we have today, there would only be two differences between a troop shuttle and a troop pod carrying the same number of troops and materiel: the shuttle would be a much larger and slower target*, and the shuttle can take of again if you have captured sufficient launch facilities. A shuttle would probably be more expensive to build and maintain, but that depends on what type of automation and production technologies exist, and you'll need one pod for every single deployment while a shuttle can be used again and again, so the cost could very much be either way. With some improved engine technologies, like fusion or metallic hydrogen, the shuttle can likely carry enough fuel to not just land and then fly of again, but also move significant distances in the atmosphere (allowing you to drop them far from the warzone and just fly in under jet power) and provide close air support to it's troops, while a pod can't. On the other hand, such technologies allows a pod to be made heavier, so it can carry dedicated atmospheric support craft and be armored enough to act as an impromptu stronghold. Fancier space opera technologies, like gravity manipulation, faster-than-light travel, mass manipulation, inertial damperners, etc, could further change the playing field. If inertial compensation or similar allow your troops to survive _any_ kind of deceleration and acceleration forces, then a drop "pod" could be made to essentially be an orbit-to-ground bunker-piercing artillery shell that you've crammed a few soldiers into: pretty hard to beat in terms of getting boots on the ground, and if proper warships and carriers can land on planets there's no need to have shuttles to retrieve them, and the carrier itself can provide close air support (depending on specifics and doctrine, fighters and interceptors might still be needed to establish air superiority). In Titanfall, drop pods are fired from geosynchronous orbit, then make an FTL jump to just high enough that they can decelerate, largely eliminating the risk of being shot down, while dropships act gunship and evac. If Star-Trek-style beaming or Stargate-style ring platforms become a thing, then both shuttles and drop pods are impractical since you can just teleport your troops and all their vehicles from the ship and back. And regardless of what technologies are on the table, there will likely be many different roles that need to be fulfilled, which will necessitate either specialized platforms that can do their job really well, or multi-purpose platforms that are mediocre at everything. *because the shuttle has to survive the descent - a pod doesn't because it's single-use, only the soldiers inside need to survive.
@Farrell461
@Farrell461 4 жыл бұрын
Vaelophis Nyx That’s true, however the marines were shown to have been fitted with metal plates during the war of insurrection, before the covenant attacked. They would have been fighting other humans using kinetics and bullets, yet they still had metal plate armor. Somehow that made it lighter and stronger
@groucho1080p
@groucho1080p 4 жыл бұрын
love you spookston from italy 🤗
@mammothmk3355
@mammothmk3355 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this bring back so much memories. Many memories. And talking about the Crusader tank: A while ago I and my friend was talking about the *Tiger Terror* ( I think?) suffer by Allied Tank Crew while roaming around in WT. Especially about the Tiger encounter in Fury, which he told me that why it's unrealistic in a way of common sense, it somewhat capture the horror and desperation aspect of Allied tank whenever they ecounter one of those big cat. So I'm currious about this: *What are the reaction of Allied tank crew when they first encounter those Tiger, Panther, etc...? Suprise? Horrify? Or both?* ;)
@drachenkeks42
@drachenkeks42 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks KZbin for not showing me the content from this creator for A FRICKIN MONTH
@jonathany1240
@jonathany1240 Жыл бұрын
the concept art for the scorpion tank, the name makes so much more sense…
@PaiSAMSEN
@PaiSAMSEN 4 жыл бұрын
"The commander's cupola is also a very large issue - it's less of a cupola and more of a giant box" How could I missed this detail for so long. lol
@berzerk-_-fury5470
@berzerk-_-fury5470 4 жыл бұрын
From Gundam the Type 61 tank? It's originally from a 40 year old show. But has had some alterations and fixes with reworks throughout it's history. The version we've been using/on the wiki is the version from the mid 90's and early 2000's. The wiki is quite humble and even goes on about it's major flaws as a tank. Hell, there's also a decent amount of refrence art and source material (even some games) so you can get a good look at it.
@SteelRaven11
@SteelRaven11 4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny the vehicles in C&C seem to get more cartoonist as the game series went on. Makes the tanks easier to identify when they are so small on screen but it still feels like something I would draw in grade school note book.
@jacplac97
@jacplac97 3 жыл бұрын
From what I know, Crusader and Paladin were supposed to be so automated, they'd be operated by a single pilot. This doesn't explain the abysmal amount of hatches tho
@saidag
@saidag 4 жыл бұрын
"I. AM. *B I G* "
@profsrlojohn635
@profsrlojohn635 4 жыл бұрын
According to the booklet that came with the game, the GLA scorpion tank is a repurposed and repaired WW1 tank. Which particular one I can't say, but it is very reminiscent of a Renault F1. However, as other people have said, it could be a P-40. The Marauder tank isn't based off of any tank. It's supposed to be built entirely from the ground up out of scrap metal. Hence why the driver is so obsessed with collecting scrap. A fact accentuated by the note that there was supposed to be a third upgrade, but it didn't make it in. Also, if you notice, the Marauder never rotates it's "turret", and it's upgrades make the turret so massive, it wouldn't be able to move anyway. It's not a tank, it's an assault gun.
@LaguzzA
@LaguzzA 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video, fun to see a more serious take on a game that sadly still have a secret addiction to. One question; The Marauder tank's turret doesn't rotate, rather the entire vehicle is used to aim the gun. (ThAt MaKeS iT A tAnK DeStrOyEr) Does that make any changes to the downsides you mentioned in this video?
@JurasJankauskas
@JurasJankauskas 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Now I know this might be an odd request, but are you planning on doing Emperor: Battle for Dune? Or any of the Dune series for that matter?
@R17inator
@R17inator 5 ай бұрын
5:00 "Unless they can fit a second guy in there somehow" Every single vehicle in Generals is crewed by only one person, since a single infantryman is enough to operate an unmanned vehicle, ranked up US vehicles always spawn only one pilot each, Jarmen Kell can instantly snipe the operator of any ground vehicle, and Hijackers can instantly take over them.
@rogerhoffmire7352
@rogerhoffmire7352 4 жыл бұрын
muzzle break isn't just to handle the recoil. it causes the gases to go to the side and leave a open view. instead of waiting for the smoke to clear.
@NetizenNo
@NetizenNo 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. You should check out Rise of the reds mod for Generals too.
@TheWolfyHuN
@TheWolfyHuN 4 жыл бұрын
great video! not sure where to request a vehicle design review so I'll just do it here can you review S.W.I.N.E.'s vehicles design? it 'recently' (like a year ago) had a HD remaster, but was originally released in 2001 by a Hungarian developer (StormRegion) It sits really close to my heart because I played it a lot in my early childhood
@SantosOverlord
@SantosOverlord Жыл бұрын
one extra weakness on the tractor is how easy the tyres are to take out
@thirstyserpent1079
@thirstyserpent1079 4 жыл бұрын
It was always fascinating seeing/playing matches in Zero Hour because for the USA it was Humvees with tow upgrade, garrisoned full of missile defenders and eventually 1 pathfinder in a couple humvees with ambo's and the avenger to heal and intercept missles and rockets and all upgraded with drones. They out shot everything else and danced around the map.
@RoadKamelot2nd
@RoadKamelot2nd 4 жыл бұрын
That's the meta for you. Where meta begins, the fun ends. If you want an actual strategic experience, the mod Rise of the Reds for C&C Generals Zero Hour offers that.
@sumtingwong8230
@sumtingwong8230 3 жыл бұрын
muzzle breaks on tanks aren't just to reduce recoil, they serve to disperse smoke to the sides of the tank which in certain conditions would make the tank harder to locate, though since it's not an artillery piece it doesn't make sense since it would most likely use sabot rounds (APFSDS or HEATFS) in which case the muzzle-break may interfere with the discarding of the sabot
@spicyainsley9635
@spicyainsley9635 4 жыл бұрын
i'm just glad this game still is relevant to this day wherein there are tons of video games from pc to mobile.
@jackhandsome1160
@jackhandsome1160 3 жыл бұрын
Muzzle brake can be used to get smoke out of gunner's sight view . Soviet 2A66 cannon have it for exact same reason
@McSkumm
@McSkumm 4 жыл бұрын
If I remember right, the Marauder's turret didn't even rotate, it was fixed in place, at least after the upgrades.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
It never rotated. It was a self-propelled gun
@ryokajimosensei2780
@ryokajimosensei2780 4 жыл бұрын
4:28 That hull looks like a T110e3, the shape that is.
@_Morph1ne_
@_Morph1ne_ 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would here the words “it’s a parody of the war on terror” but here I am
@Fudgeoff6628
@Fudgeoff6628 Жыл бұрын
You did good given what you had to work with, im not knowledgeable about tanks at all, so hearing such details about them is rather fascinating to me. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos, your passion towards this topic is what made me subscribe and come around often. Keep up the great work man. 💪🏽
@emperorkane317
@emperorkane317 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going do a video about the practicality of rocket-assisted tank ammunition? Or atleast go more indepth about what that would look like? I assume it would be a cross between tank-fired ATGMs and tradition tank shells
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 4 жыл бұрын
3:49 It looks like an Italian Carro Armato P-40 from WW-2. And no, it doesn't look like a T-34. Not only it has a different cannon to the kind used in the T-34 (and different turret as well), but also the transmission system and the armor placement are different).
@camhedmr_5593
@camhedmr_5593 4 жыл бұрын
You should take a look on the metal slug series vehicles, and it's probably worthy for multiple videos. They've got a LOT of weird designs.
@legodude9
@legodude9 4 жыл бұрын
Bit of an odd request for tank...Review? Have you thought about looking Generally at the tanks (With or without upgrades) from Valkeria Chronicles? They have real world inspiration but still keep a unique style to a degree. Your Opinon on the Gallian and Empire tanks would probably be intresting. VC1 and 4 are on PC but sadly 2 & 3 are on PSP.
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 жыл бұрын
I love this series, you nitpick small details from games that really doesn't matter, because: 1- it's a game; 2- it probably makes sense in-universe; 3- Because of '1' it doesn't need to comply with armor/ballistic/mechanical/physical rules; And it's really fun, you're not like an total asshole saying everything is wrong and everything sucks and you're basically a perfect god, very cool series! please make more!
@arsmariastarlight3567
@arsmariastarlight3567 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do M61A2 EFGF MBT from Mobile Suit Gundam IGLOO 2: Gravity of Battlefront episode 2? It's a very interesting concept, in a single episode dedicated entirely from tank crew's PoV in a world where giant robots brawling around is the norm, complete with detailed feature and specifications of the vehicle itself, so its should be easy for you to make an explanation for its design
@the_burger
@the_burger 4 жыл бұрын
OH BOY HERE IT IS
@sebastianpost7237
@sebastianpost7237 4 жыл бұрын
Have you done the vehicles from Command and conquer: Tiberium sun? You mentioned somewhere in your hover tank video that a hovering rocket artillery vehicle could be plausible, and the GDI in that game have something called a hover MLRS.
@godalmighty83
@godalmighty83 4 жыл бұрын
Muzzle brakes weren't just for recoil, they channeled smoke, debris and hot gasses away from the tanks scopes. Even the massive WW2 Churchills had them on some guns.
@samg.5165
@samg.5165 4 жыл бұрын
The Scorpion tank is supposed to be a T-34. If I remember correctly, it is referred as such in the game files.
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