Everything Wrong with Dead by Daylight (Why I Quit)

I recently decided that I won't be playing Dead by Daylight anymore, and wanted to discuss the reasons why. Keep in mind that this is from the point of view of someone who at point played a lot of DBD but now plays very sporadically. Some of my issues consist of matchmaking, SBMM, lack of ranked mode, no significant gameplay alterations, toxic community.
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[@Spinnin_Em]

What 1 match of singularity does to a person:

[@cderzy]

@@Spinnin_Em more like one match of skull merchant 😂

[@izsoraa]

damn what’s wrong with hux 😭

[@ShallowYoru]

​@@izsoraahe wrecks solo queue survivor.

[@izsoraa]

@@ShallowYoru i mean true but that’s how many games go for solo q not just against singularity

[@rickyspanish8956]

The answer for you is Superfast Quickmode in Deadbydayligth Mobile, which limits match to 7min and only 3 gen needs to be done, however survivors immediately travel to Entity on 2-nd hook 😂 yes, I am playing on mobile also.

[@EmilicoYamigos]

no ranked mode? dude, there is, its what you have been playing all the time, there is NO CASUAL mode on the other hand, where you can play without worrying about MMR, DBD is the only game I know that has no Casual mode, only Ranked mode, and the only game with only Ranked mode that doesnt shows MMR and at the same time isnt built or designed to be Ranked.

[@cderzy]

it's so backwards 😂

[@TGMS77]

A casual mode isn't mutually exclusive with MMR tracking. In fact, I cannot think of a single game that has casual without it counting towards your MMR. Moreover, DBD's rank system is so bad that I agree with the video creator by not even counting it as ranked. Rank means nothing in DBD. I remember being a Rank 1 killer main for like 5 years and besides people who played with full squads, most survivors fucking sucked SMELLY ass bro. Rank in DBD means nothing, it's not even proper ranking.

[@EmilicoYamigos]

@@TGMS77 thing is, it feels like there is a Ranked system with the sole purpose of existing just because, to prevent casual gameplay but at the same time, not being functional as any other Ranked game, it fails to perform in every single aspect, because Ranked doesnt exist to match the same skill of people but at the same time it forces you to play a game that is not casual, underperforming in both. But still, just because the Ranked Mode is bad, doesnt mean we can say there is none of them, to te contrary, we should aknowledge it as it is and demand to propperly function as any Ranked system. We cant pull out the "if its bad ranked system then its not ranked" no, the game itself says it, Ranked.

[@TGMS77]

@@EmilicoYamigos yes, but what the game says doesn't mean anything if it doesn't function as such. No one cares about DBD rank, so no one plays the game trying to rank up, because you know that if you're even decently good, you'll reach max rank. A rank system isn't a rank system just because there's ranks in it, I would argue. If the game doesn't give a ranked system's importamce to its ranked system, it doesn't have a ranked system.

[@EmilicoYamigos]

@@TGMS77 then they should research and search what "Ranked" means, because they are using it very loosely and just lying to everyone, you cant just trick a community like that, saying that it isnt Ranked feels like we are contributing with BH to not fixing it, and leave it as it is because people say "ranked" its just like some sort of ceremonial title

[@Lpettro]

Community has the most demons per square inch.

[@hassanberg]

Add a casual mode with no skill based match making. All im asking for.

[@ryder_4435]

the problem isn't the MMR system or the matchmaking, it's the players over time multiplayer gaming has stopped being about having fun and enjoying yourself, everyone just wants to win at all costs and to even play with/against these people you gotta take the game seriously, which in the process makes the game less fun since you're playing with one goal and one goal only: winning combine that with how the dbd community is always divided and seems to think the other side should be put on the cross, and you get a very toxic environment for both gameplay and player-to-player interaction the only solution to having fun in most multiplayer games these days is to not play at all, try something else

[@jame8618]

@@ryder_4435 this, this is why people say the miss the old dbd but in all reality the players used to be so much more chill and the games used to be so so fun no matter the result. Its like what happened to cod and other games, players get sweaty and only use meta and boom thats the end of the games fun

[@Bryan_S]

@@jame8618 very true. Everybody tries to bring up old DBD saying it was not balanced more sweaty and that modern players wouldn’t stand a chance back then, for example, mori right away 1st down, old ruin/undying, old dying light, nurse with more blinks then you can count. You never ran into it that often these things to ruin your experience. If you had old DBDs perks/gameplay with the 2024 (DBD community) multiplayer playerbase win optimal competitive mindset, the game would’ve been absolutely unbearable to the point the game wouldn’t even been popular and got traction. I still blame the 2017 Fortnite boom for the sweaty multiplayer mindset now. There’s a reason on TikTok you see always those jokes, this is why I quit “put example here” too many sweats. You even see more videos the last two years “why esports/streamers, ruin gaming.” We’re just in a time now we’re winning is all that matters in multiplayer games. Black ops 6 beta looks dreadful, with this mentality, if you don’t like it, well sadly then you have to just play offline, singleplayer or co-op games. It’s sad, but that’s the direction it’s going.

[@christiancorley4309]

@@Bryan_Syou must not have been playing games before 2017. Multiplayer games where you’re playing against somebody has always been competitive, and the big games have always had sweats. The only thing to blame here is more people playing the game, and people getting better at the game.

[@Bryan_S]

@@christiancorley4309nope, I played Halo 3, COD4, World at War, MW2, Battlefield 1, SW Battlefront and yeah, you might have some sweaty matches, but it wasn’t to the sheer level of what it is now. It wasn’t an objective ruin or tamper your experience. I remember back in 2010 a person in my high school is a backup player to a halo three competitive team. We ended up doing a 1v1 and I only managed to get one kill. I was more relaxing and chilling while he was so upset that he died one time. I just avoid the competitive scenes as much as I can, and the only reason I got into DBD comp was because nothing was established in the game and it was way more casual/fun. Glad I left that environment last year.

[@capnorange8400]

Honestly listening to the conversation you gave here it just comes down to the player base. Behavior could do better and actually play their game, but it comes down to a toxic player base. People ruin good games.

[@cake94309]

That's my issue with dbd. Too many people screaming at bhvr to make changes, some unnecessary, hate for no reason, and just extremely unfun gameplay from other players I'm matched with

[@deivisnx]

That goes for any multiplayer game stfu please.

[@gasto64]

It's a game that encourages toxic behaviour, they never fixed it, that's it, if you know people are going to be toxic doing X thing, why promote it buffing those things, it's not the pig, the it's the owner

[@Josh-we9xv]

You literally pointed out everything that I have issues with in dbd. And the reasons I struggle to have any fun.

[@cderzy]

glad we're not alone on this

[@akeelyaqub2538]

I dont find the game fun either, not because of a skill or balancing issue but because I really wanted this game to feel like being in a horror slasher. It's too fortnite-y to deliver on anything scary. The casting of frank stone made me sad because it made the dbd universe feel terrifying which is what dbd itself should do. Friday the 13th ALWAYS feels like being in a horror movie as you play and it has tension throughout the whole match so its not an impossible thing to pull off in an asym game. Hell dbd itself had a scary feel to it just a few years ago. Until they replaced all the creepy aspects with "updated" graphics which just made everything look bland. I only really have fun playing jumpscare myers/ghostface but I want to feel that horror from a survivor perspective but 99.99% of killers never play like that.

[@cderzy]

yeah it would be amazing to get back to those vibes

[@NNNateMMMate]

As a killer main it’s impossible to jump scare and play character anymore. Gens pop off crazy fast so we have to speed run everything. Making it look like we’re sweating and playing hard but we have to play as fast as possible now and one mistake can cost us the game. Friday the 13th was awesome because it was so chill and there was enough time in the matches for everyone to play the way they want to play.

[@akeelyaqub2538]

@@NNNateMMMate yea it does feel like a race against the clock sometimes. When I do jumpscare games though i dont really go for kills so its not that much of a concern and some survivors do take their time when they realise im not trying to kill them.

[@JusticeTDK]

I'm a jumpscare Ghostface and i hope someday we will meet each other in a game so i can get you in a scary mood👻. But yeah i feel your problem. I want this game to be scary as well

[@akeelyaqub2538]

@@JusticeTDK I hope so! I never get to experience in this game lol

[@spaghettproductions4989]

7:05 to answer your question, Yes. DBDs MMR never resets automatically. You could have max MMR, be an absolute god at the game then quit for years and come back playing like absolute cheeks but the game will still be putting you up against Max players no matter how many games you lose because once you've reached the top band of MMR there's no coming down even if you lost 100 games in a row. The whole system was explained in a vid by Choy, tbh the vid is like a year old so some of the info in it might be a bit outdated but I'd recommend giving it a watch if you're curious about learning how this ass backward system works

[@cderzy]

Wow I didn't know that at all, I'll check it out

[@soundrogue4472]

WTF

[@dozzy9984]

That should be unacceptable. Any mmr should have default value it tries to put players back to if they are inactive. There's also the case of people carrying others, which often is a reason for soft and ocassionally hard resets of mmr. Also losing should put you back down, with a losing streak it should be even faster. But considering how easy it would be in this game for players to just drop by either "dcing" on hooks or killers refusing to move, it would be a nightmare. Man, the more I play this game and observe how it "evolves", the more I realize how incompetent these devs are in game creation. And I know this argument is heavily overused when talking about these or any devs,. But for BHVR you could make a small list of things they screw up because of their lack of, I don't know, competence, basic understanding how their game works, goodwill, car?

[@soundrogue4472]

@@dozzy9984 A lot of devs like with the Overwatch 2 devs only got their success thanks to luck and not because of hard work. BHVR is only lucky with the fact their competitors kept nuking themselves/ shooting themselves in the foot. Also people dcing would be EASY problem to solve for the MMR issue! Just put the people who DC a lot WITH OTHERS WHO DC A LOT!

[@jame8618]

wtf, this makes sense now??? ive been getting smashed after a year away that makes so much sense, no wonder its unplayable

[@TomFoolery870]

It feels like increasingly with more killers and survivors and perks, there are so many strong builds that spec into different aspects of the game like totem/anti-totem builds, healing/anti-heal builds,and more for slugging, tunneling, and gen progression. These builds have become increasingly stronger with more perk synergies that it feels pretty rng at high mmr wether you get matched with a killer or survivor team, that suffers massively from your build or completely counters it, I’ve had games where I get stomped with a totem build then throw on anti-totem perks because “not letting that happen again” only to then run into an anti-heal build and have no useful perks to work through it, you just can’t counter every strong build at once so it feels random if you win or lose based on your perks being good against your opponent or useless

[@TomFoolery870]

And before anyone says anything, I’m not saying you can’t win against strong builds that you don’t directly counter, but it turns what should be a casual experience into a competitive sweat fest to make up for the power imbalance of the match

[@cderzy]

really good point and i feel like this somewhat connects to what I was saying about the perk bloat in the game

[@angeloalvarez5520]

I use sloppy butcher + Coulrophobia sometimes

[@SPLATMUSIC-]

I resonate with a lot of points in this! I've played this game for a good bit, hard to pin point when I started, but I have like 4,500 hours. I think a big thing that tainted the game may have been MMR imo. At least with the classic ranking system I could tell where I was skill wise, and see my progression. Now it feels like the cycle is lose 2, win 1 over and over again, with the win being an absolute stomping (survivor side). The point about playing with friends is also something I agree with a lot. Even if I end up losing with friends I still find it fun just because my friends are there. Overall, really good video going over some core problems!

[@cderzy]

appreciate you hearing me out ✊

[@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEE]

i've played since 2016.. and the game is nothing more than a hollow version of what it once was. The devs keep bringing in these interesting licenses while constantly costing hte core gameplay of what made the game fun. The peak of the game was the introduction of the emblem based matchmaking for me - get gold, silver etc and pip up, the requirements getting higher the higher your rank was. this truly was the peak of fun for me cause i could play my characters in the role they were and still rank up, happy i acomplsihed it. Play Bill as a sacrificial survivor, dedicated to getting his team out..? die and then still pip up? it makes the game more intense, icentivized me to do better. but now i cant. cause that'd count as a "loss" and my MMR would drop cause "hockey." The wave of zoomers coming into the game doesnt help too. not playing the game, memeing around and the ones that do play focused on massive disrespect to the killer for tiktok clout. its embarassing. Gone are the days of people sharing a funny little party game for what it was.. cosplaying as characters they were fans of, doing meme builds... BHVR cant even keep tehir own game together anymore as perks are broken for months on end. at this rate, i'm just playing the game to 100% the archives for competion sake, collect the lore and move on until the next licensed chapter facinates me for a few weeks. It sucks man.

[@deeds8777]

Vaulting 8feet away from the killer and still get hit is crazy

[@Galves-non]

Not sure if you know I'm not saying every killer or that this is what's happening everytime but when in chase killer can get a same sprint boost

[@Galves-non]

Small sprint boost *

[@diotubgamer544]

It call blood lust but still killers should not be able to hit 8 feet away​@@Galves-non

[@Galves-non]

@diotubgamer544 ya thats true I only play a few killers so I can't speak for most but the ones I play I've never had that happen

[@xaniel6639]

Check for medium vaults?

[@neurosisatriox1782]

The one thing I have noticed from playing Dead By Daylight for years is the grind got worse. The skill level gets to a point where it isn't fun anymore. Not to mention some of the toxicity in this game is miserable. Also some of the limited time modes are just mods that people made in the past when the game was easy to mod. Some buffs and nerfs in DBD don't make sense or some nerfs done to killers can just ruin the killer completely. I have also noticed that this game gets super boring after playing for awhile. I remember how you only had to prestige your characters 3 times to get them all bloody now you have to prestige a single character 6 times just to get their outfit bloody.

[@cderzy]

feel you 100%

[@arthurkirkland1419]

As someone whos played since the game came out i 1,000 percent agree with everything you said. These days killers have like 4 different powers/things you gotta keep track of and its just like why? But i could forgive all that if it wasnt for (as you said) the community being so dang toxic. One of their favorite quotes in my experience has been "well your fun isnt my responsibility." I truly dont see how its fun for them though. Like its fun to afk while 4 people bleed out on the ground? A lot of the community is just toxic to be toxic which is the biggest problem with the game in my opinion. (Dont even get me started on their lack of banning problem people).

[@cderzy]

The toxicity might be the biggest problem but I can avoid it most of the time since I mostly play with friends. Solo players gotta have it the worst. Appreciate you watching

[@khvoya2584]

Oh wow. The very first thing a survivor main crying about is of course how it's hard to cope with slugging when it's the only strategy left against 4k swf, exactly after those exact survivors baby-cried their eyes out about every power killers had in the game, resulting devs to nerf every gen regression perk and 80% of killers, turning their power into a joke. Never in all these years I saw survivors struggling in a game. Press "w", press "shift", press "rmb", repeat, and yet they cry more and more, becoming more toxic every freaking day, bringing anti-hook, anti-aura, anti-everything in the game and then acting like nothing ever happened and they played it shines and rainbows. I'll consider it my duty to slug every last one of you bozos just to make sure something is left within killer's might. edit: A cherry on top - "Lights out" event popped out just about the right time to show us the true "power" of survivors. When they lost all of their second/third chance perks their "SkilL" (there is no skill btw) actually started to show out. Truly a bruh moment.

[@arthurkirkland1419]

@khvoya2584 cool story bro, could've used a dragon.

[@khvoya2584]

​@@arthurkirkland1419 Cool story indeed. Y'all immediately start acting sweet and eventually shut up when facts are being shoved to your face. Just as intended.

[@arthurkirkland1419]

@@khvoya2584 cool story bro, could've used a dragon.

[@soulindenial5001]

Especially since they added that you get an automatic mori for the last survivor, i notice some killers sweat to slug and for a 4K

[@KeVRocK668]

My "theory" about MMR... They don't show it to us because it doesn't matter in the way we think it would, it doesn't feel like we're matched with teammates/kilIers/opponents that are "Skill Matched" the MMR feels like they track how good we are and queue us in matches that are predictable to their algorithm, survival/mortality rate has been steady at 40/60 killer sided, and that's what BHVR wants, so they almost at a WWE level predetermine our matches, so rather than balance the gameplay... They balance the matchmaking and when we're due for a win, we get matched with competent teammates and queue up a baby K or a trapper main trying out spirit for the first time...I'd love to play with people on my level, but that's rare,your absolutely right it's either stomp or be stomp...but I think that's the plan

[@AllWeNeededWas]

MMMMMMM yes yes I think you're onto something.

[@BingChiller227]

bro the one thing that did it for me were the RAMPANT bugs... still after all these years either a perk, map, or an entire character is just broken/disabled

[@Isaac7even]

I suggest playing when a new chapter comes out for a week then wait until the next

[@ryder_4435]

I stopped playing DbD back in march of this year and while I do still remember the fun times and how awesome it would feel every now and then, it was one of the best decisions I made in my gaming "career". I already said this in a different comment, but multiplayer games have just gotten less casual with time, it's really hard to have simple fun these days because everyone is trying to win like their life depends on it, and that goes for ANY multiplayer game with PvP. You either stay chill and hope you meet other people that aren't trying as hard or you lock in and try to compete with the "must win" type players, now of course I like winning but I find the process to be a lot more enjoyable, what's the fun of winning if there was no battle, if you just stomped the entire team or got stomped so hard you could barely play the game. I feel like that is what the "must win always" mindset causes and I'm tired of every single PvP game being exactly that. There's no room for experimenting or trying fun stuff, it's just meta, meta, meta and if you go outside of it, boom you just got destroyed in 5 minutes, have fun waiting 10 in queue till the next game. It feels limiting to put my few hours of fun at the mercy of complete strangers that have about a 50/50 chance of being totally chill or the worst people I've ever met (and since we're talking about DbD, it's more like 75% worst time ever and 25% potentially fun game) btw, I'm still shocked they haven't done anything to adress the imbalance of fun this game has. Like, most actions that are beneficial to one side almost always screw with the other side (like how a killer's best strategy is to get one survivor out ASAP but that is obviously not fun for the survivor that got taken out), and while that may be true for most PvP games it's especially true for an assymetrical game like DbD where each side can screw the other more than they can themselves with their bad decision making and all that I personally find it funny that players could actually make some meaningful difference for the good of the game if they stopped arguing with eachother, the survivor vs killer debate if just pure brainrot, you totally have the power to push behaviour into making a better game, if only you'd stop hating on eachother for 10 minutes to end on a positive note, I really feel like coop games are the future, deep rock and helldivers seem to have been able to detox a lot of the bad stuff we've gone through in the last years, if anyone's ever interested in leaving any PvP game at all, don't fall into the trap of jumping from toxic community to toxic community, try something new instead rant over :D

[@cderzy]

"what's the fun of winning if there was no battle, if you just stomped the entire team or got stomped so hard you could barely play the game" I love that 🙌

[@ashley-bd5ik]

Dude this video is spot on. I have 2k hours and have been playing since 2019. I went from playing almost daily to only every now and then, just kind of naturally starting playing other things. And going from a hardcore player to one that only pops in now and again, I definitely realized how frustrating it is to be a casual player. Having to learn all the perks, the current meta, how to play against the different killers, it’s just too much and I feel overwhelmed when I try to pick up the game for the first time in a couple months. I think the beginning of the end was boons. When it came out I just thought it was just another element to over complicate the game. Now you have things like scourge hooks, incantations, weird gameplay elements like built in borrowed time, and it just feels so clunky and awkward to play. This is a simple game through and through, and that’s what I liked about it. Now they’re trying to cram so much into a 15-minute match that it’s too much. Like I just want to loop a killer, I don’t want to deal with all this extra stuff AND on top of that have to learn how all the new changes and additions work.

[@cderzy]

completely agree with your whole comment 🙌

[@ericpratt984]

Yeah, them adding a whole bunch of perks into the game is what really turns me off. 'Cause not only do you have to grind like crazy to get them all, but it also turns the game into an unbalanced mess. Which is why you get a ton of one-sided matches.

[@luisfernandolt]

This is so accurate i have fun trolling people and being a hero😭😂

[@HamSolo916]

Because the community is trash...the game community use to be so wholesome. Now everyone plays like their sadomasachists...if only these people could be banned. And we all can just have fun like we use to

[@gamermonci]

Could be because I’m on console and a survivor main but i honestly don’t think the community is that bad i have never gotten trash talked before the worst that’s happened in 3k hours of me playing is getting accused of being part of a SWF and I’ve had way more wholesome memorable moments with randoms

[@cderzy]

deadass people like to ruin other peoples experiences

[@alexasalas6189]

It’s okay to take a time if it’s necessary. I used to play a lot in 2021 when I genuinely enjoyed DBD, after two years and a half, I returned to the game in 2024’s summer and even though I don’t feel the same excitement as I felt the first months of ever playing this, I did enjoy it. Right now, after like four months I’ve got bored again lmao. I just feel like this is a game that’s not meant to be a "forever" to a lot of people, so it’s better to find other games to rotate it with. Right now I’m going to try BG3

[@VeyVox]

Dead By Daylight is for me what is called "Sunk Cost Fallacy" because it literally is. Once you start wasting money on dlc's because you're simply underpowered, and the whole game's fundament is based upon p2w, you feel like you have the NEED to continue to grind, and grind, and grind, with no real outcome. This game isn't fun, it's an unbalanced, pay to win mess. And I have 6k hours in this, if any pencilnecks want to debate in the comments

[@AverageGamerNub-qf6sp]

Finally a guy with an american accent

[@maxsiqueira666]

When I stopped playing DBD I had over 3 thousand (started in 2021 stopped 2023). hours and I considered myself an average to bad player (which doesn't mean I didn't have fun, I had fun even though I wasn't an expert). I'm still amazed at how some people play this game for two months and know how to do everything. I stopped playing because I thought the game had become repetitive. They bring so much content every year that for me it ended up becoming boring to keep up with the changes. But I understand that if they don't bring new content (especially licensed content) the game dies because it's repetitive.

[@repeatingimp7229]

I feel you on these issues. I'm just over the 1000 hour mark myself as well and have been playing since January 2018 and been watching streamers play it since release. Its definitely not the same game as it used to be. The things that made old DBD special no longer exist. When they did the movement rework, graphics overhauls and HUD rework is when the game really went downhill especially.

[@Stranzua]

I have about 800 hours strictly solo q and my major problem with this game comes down to 3 things. 1. I honestly feel like the developers have no idea what they are doing. 2. Players ruin the game by killing themselves on hook WAY TOO OFTEN! 3. I agree with everything you say about players deliberately ruining the game for everyone else at the 10:00 minute mark. 1. In my opinion, the developers continue to just ruin their own games mechanics. For example, look at Dracula. If you gain distance on him in any way, he just transforms into the bat/wolf and instantly catches up. Then he instantly transforms and/or instantly attacks while having the ability to counter everything. He's basically Pyramid Head, Wesker, and Chucky in 1 with the ability to teleport. If you go to a pallet, vault, or any obstacle that's not a wall, he can just use Hellfire. If you try to unhook someone, he can just use Hellfire to hit both of you. If you try to loop anything, he can just turn into the wolf and disappear behind obstacles like Chucky. Lately, I've been having a lot of games where there are no chases because killers like Dracula, Blight, Billy, Nurse, Wesker, and Spirit(Etc.) just down everyone instantly. 3. Unfortunately, players are allowed to deliberately ruin the game for everyone because that's how the game is designed. It's designed to reward toxic players. Killer's camping hooks? Bubba camping basement? Killers camping hook/basement with Insidious? Killers being able to body block the basement stairs so you can't even get out? Tunneling? Face-camping? Slugging? You can't tell me that there aren't ways too effectively counter these things because there are. The problem is that the developers haven't addressed these things because this is why this game is still popular. People LOVE BEING TOXIC! Go watch the video 'Winning DBD without hooks' by Atomic Turtle. He is a pure example of the people ruining this game.

[@cderzy]

800 hours of solo q i cant even imagine 😭 i like what you said "this is why this game is still popular. People LOVE BEING TOXIC!" so fking true

[@EasyMoney_SniperR]

I watched this video, it was a cool little challenge and the guy was pretty funny. If Otz would make a video "I won 50 games in a row without hooking" you probably wouldn't complain and you'd say that it's a fun idea for a video.

[@Stranzua]

@@EasyMoney_SniperR I've watched Otz only a few times, but he genuinely feels like a nice person. Even if he did this challenge, he doesn't give me the impression that he would continuously try to ruin the game for everyone. That guy seemed like he loved it. Was it a challenge or was that how he always acts?

[@EasyMoney_SniperR]

​@@Stranzua If he loved it, it's even better, if he has fun playing this way, who are you to tell him to play otherwise? And don't blame the player, blame the game. I never understood people that gate keep certain playstyles, like camping in fps or all these playstyles in DBD.

[@Stranzua]

@@EasyMoney_SniperR Ok, so miserable LOVE to make other people miserable and you're ok with that? Here's what I think. I think you're a moron.

[@deepfake4021]

I have 7k hours on the game and agree with most of what you said. Only thing I disagree with is MMR. They should have left the old ranking system and created a casual mode. Iridescent ranking has nothing to do with skill anymore, much more about time spent playing during any season. I think because the game has been around for so long it’s created divisions in the community. Sweats, casual, toxic, cheaters, etc. I whole heartedly agree that behavior needs to pump the breaks on perks, survivors and killers and focus more on new maps. If they would quit messing with the mechanics it would stay fresh. 90% of perks go without being utilized. I feel bad for new players. Just too much going on to be enjoyable. You almost need an experienced player to learn basic gameplay enough to enjoy yourself.

[@ToanIV]

Heard from somewhere else so correct me if they’re wrong. They stated when you reach a certain ranking in your MMR, you cannot drop out of the MMR bracket to a lower MMR bracket. I could say this is true comparing it to my own testing and playing with friends not intending to win and our random survivors and killers didn’t change much 😭

[@Adept_Outlaw]

Can completely agree with you on the majority of these takes. I started playing dbd in early 2018 and the game was really fun despite how broken it was back in the day. People back then played for fun most of the time and the community back then was a lot more wholesome then it is nowadays. Dbd nowadays is a complete sweat fest and a literal daycare job. People going for win streaks on killer / escape streaks on survivor running the most broken meta things possible just ruining the casual experience. The community is completely entitled and toxic as hell. The us vs them mentality will forever plauge this game because you are not forced to learn/play both roles on this game, people have 5k+ hrs on this game playing only half the experience. This community is soo petty that they will be completely negative with just the slightest inconvenience. The amount of harassment, ddosing, complaining , and ego checking that I’ve seen on this game is beyond any other game I’ve played. I agree with you that dbd nowadays must be completely hell for new players. Soo many perks and different killers to have to learn, along with not being able to understand how to play against each/ play as different killers that efficiently because there is no in game tutorials for this aside from private match lobbies with bots. Also the fact that the iridescent shard grind still takes forever to grind for original characters and the fact that a great amount of the games content is locked behind a paywall, despite this game not being free. This is only getting worse with the more chapters they add. Also about the mmr system, it definitely feels unnecessary in this game because this game is supposed to be a party game. The 1v4 mode is treated as ranked mode with you either dominating the other role or you getting dominated. The elements of rng on the game can also make this experience feel worse when you can take into consideration that majority of dbd’s maps are horribly designed. The devs have a clear favoritism when it comes to the balance of the game. There are things that have been unchanged in the meta for both roles for a long time that just makes the game soo stale to play when you encounter the same things over and over again on either role. Don’t even get me started on solo q survivor either. The incentive to play just isn’t there anymore aside from playing with friends and seeing the new content drops/ grinding the battle pass rifts. Prestige 100 doesn’t mean anything more and caused toxic playstyles to the point where the devs had to remove prestiges from the pregame lobby for survivor. Getting all the perks is pointless when only 12 from each role are all that you’re ever going to see ever being used. There is no reward for playing the game consistently, no milestones, just nothing. Win or lose, the game feels like shit to play. Words from a 5k hr player

[@HiddenConspiracy276]

Honestly,You hit the nail on the head with this

[@cderzy]

a lot of good points here - appreciate you watching and brining your perspective!

[@minervas.owl.]

The only thing wrong about this game is the community. I've deleted this game from my steam account and asked support to delete if fully so it cannot restore it later (because deleting a game from steam account with standart protocol is just basically hiding it). I have aprox. 600 hours, not too much, I do not live by playing dbd, and I'm not into challenging myself into getting all characters into P100. Saying that, I'm tired of reading how should I "git gud", how trash I am, how bad I am at life e.t.c.. And it really hurts me every time to the bottom of my soul, that I do not even try to compete, but get bmed and shittalked in post-game chat every time, with "recomendations" starting as playing with bots, and ending with wishes I would end killing myself. I just see every time how this game basically raises all the shit up from people, who just enjoy humiliating folks, savouring the worst words humanity has ever invented. I'd just forget about this game, but then I see another video of otz or jrm, or any other folks, and see how engaged they are and what emotions they have, and cannot hold myself, every 2-3 months. And ye, everyone just keep repeating words about "not taking it seriously", but it's kinda stupid to treat a system problem with individual recommendations. I honestly wish this game never existed, so I've never saw and read the words I've seen.

[@Warchief13-qr6er]

@@minervas.owl. Jesus change your tampon.

[@AJCross-ub1sk]

Tbh I felt similar a couple years ago, but I still love playing DBD it's not for everyone and honestly I only play it because of how much time I've put into it. I only used real money to buy 3 characters (ash, Nicholas, and Chucky) so I'm not motivated by how much I've spent on the game because I got it for free from PlayStation years ago and take breaks all the time. I still watch content creators on my breaks tho because I don't want to be surprised when new perks/killers drop. I understand everything you said and I agree permanent new game modes would help, but also making the game more balanced than either side dominating would be great. I miss when red rank meant you were going against the best players and getting that was never easy, but getting ranked up now just for blood points every month is so dumb.

[@AJCross-ub1sk]

I've got about the same amount of hours as you and I get paired with either the most brutal killers or ones that are still learning. Believe me you can tell the difference in a skilled killer or a new one with only 500hrs of play time

[@Joemp3]

I've not played in almost 2 years, I have a similar hour count and I was thinking of coming back but these reasons are pretty valid. For me it comes down to two things. 1. It's kind of stale just doing the same thing over and over and I find myself having to play in slightly unusual ways which is often fun but often unfun too as it usually results in more games being lost due to survivors/killers being on their game. 2. I don't really want to play Survivor unless I have a 4man swf and we do dumb stuff which is only fun for so long. Killer is fine but there are times where I wanted to rip my hair out, it wasn't even anyone's fault it was just a bunch of unfortuntate things; ain't no good putting it down to the survivor's being "cringe" as some people do.

[@cderzy]

sounds like we feel pretty similarly

[@kennethuselton788]

I agree with you with everything you said... I wish they bring back the 2 on 8 again I had so much fun playing that way but not now

[@theravenman]

They have a very large player base but seemingly unable to add a permanent unranked mode, ranked mode, and modifier game modes. I wouldn’t mind longer queues if everyone got to play what they wanted.

[@SarahLuvs2game]

As someone who recently joined, I can confirm DBD is not very fun! It's just very sweaty, and I now see why some people try to farm lower mmr, I don't play games to play serious, I play games to destress after cheerleading and my other responsibilities! I personally lost interest after watching a DBD documentary, and how is this game 7 years old and the game just now started adding new modes... I actually started playing around the era where hackers were having 2 killers in a lobby and it was some of the most fun I ever had in this game, I'm proud to admit I played both sides 50/50 but it's insane just how bland this game gets when you quickly find out how sweaty the game is, and that every game you play in DBD is just the same thing with some variation in sweat. And the microtransactions don't get me started with the microtransactions they are so predatory to new people, thankfully my friends recommended me a unlocker on DBD that allows me to unlock all new dlc chapters and cosmetics for free so I no longer have to spend the equivalent of a ps5 just to maybe have half of the killers/survivors, thank you for making this video it's amazing to know I'm not alone in this mindset that DBD just isn't a game worth investing into!

[@Only-_-1Shotta]

I respect bro cause he didn’t even Mention tunneling not one time . Yet that’s the biggest issue I have as a solo queue player . Idk killers just see my name , since I play console it’s a bit annoying PC has the advantage to become anonymous. This has been a big issue . I’ve also been playing dbd since 2016 , the game is in a stale state .

[@Ghostman128x]

Fully agree with everything said

[@cderzy]

thank you 🙌

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

See you in a few months champ... I am at about 5k hours now and I have quit for nearly a year and probably play for 6 months out of every year, sometimes more, sometimes less. However I gave up saying I quit, as I always end up coming back as there is nothing else quite like this game. So I just say I am on a break and perhaps one day the break will be permanent but I just can never say. One thing that helped me enjoy it was stopping trying to win or doing things I don't enjoy - I don't play killer anymore as I don't enjoy it. I run builds like Flashbang, Head On, Red Herring and Diversion just because I enjoy the meme value over the winning aspect. I do get it tough, MMR did change the game from being as casual as it was and matches are a lot more sweaty these days, it's why I take breaks a lot more than I did too.

[@johnwickfromfortnite9506]

Ill say this as a person who just started the game a week ago because my friends wanted me to play it. The game is extremely overwhealming and it feels like that kind of game that you needed to be there since day one to just know pretty much everything. The game is extremely grindy and if you even want to stand a chance in higher MMR lobbies you need to have grinded a lot because not having certain perks does make playing om either side impossible There's so many perks and killer abilities and a lot of advanced tech that you simply "just need to know" in order to play this game casually. Ive tried both killer and survivor and I agree with your statement that games are always stomps from one side since I had 3 games in a row as killer that was so easy that I wanted to stop playing thinking the game was already getting boring and the next game I get a full stack of people and I got bullied for 30 minutes simply for being new and even got told I was a noob killer even doe those people had over 2k hours and I just started playing 1 week ago. The lack of a rank and casual mode has made it so I have to either sweat my balls off to play casually or get bullied or sweating every game instead of just playing casually for fun which is what I and most people want to do after a long day of work. I already got to deal with toxic and annoying people at work as a chef, I dont need to go back home, log into DBD and find more toxic and annoying people.

[@Wizardbeard91]

If you like the idea of the game and it's kinda fun to you then I suggest you play only killer for a while you're gunna lose alot but you'll get the hang of it within a couple of days of playing nothing but killer tye reason I suggest this is because playing killer incidentally teaches you how to play survivor I played only killer for like 2 years when I finally decided to give survivor another try I just knew what to do Ps. You do not need to grind killer for 2 years

[@johnwickfromfortnite9506]

@@Wizardbeard91 i did play both sides. I dont mainly play one i swap between them and I still feel that way. I feel like im a severe disadvantage the whole time just for being new and not having access to most perks or add ons and also perks being locked behind dlc which is already bs by itself and then I have to grind that dlc character to have the ability to grind even more to put that perk on another character. I like the game still. I love the chaotic fun that can happen on it since theres nothing like dbd out there but i do have those games where i just go "man f this shit, im jerking off"

[@semplar2007]

i meeeean they're high mmr lobbies for a reason. i guess you've played with your high mmr friends in party (makes sense!) and was getting strong killers as a result. this is so unfun to just die to a much stronger killer, i feel you. and yes, dbd community is one of the most prominent sore winners i've ever seen

[@johnwickfromfortnite9506]

@@semplar2007 that explains a lot. i thought it was like most games in which the lobby's mmr is based on the host and since I was hosting I was under the impression we were gonna get newer players.I was not aware I screwed my own mmr so now I have to deal with really good killers while being in a huge perk and knowledge and experience disadvantage.

[@semplar2007]

@@johnwickfromfortnite9506 i've heard it starts somewhere in the middle when you start playing dbd, and depends whether you win or lose, it quickly drops or raises, then kinda stays there. no worries it will drop down after you lose dozen times. i think killer is matched to average survivor mmr in lobby, so whenever you invite any high-mmr friend to play swf, be ready to face a stronger killer

[@sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003]

MMR in this game the only reason why i avoid trying to win at all also the grind as a person dont spend money just insane

[@DeadEyesLoner]

I'm quitting DbD because behavior just doesnt seem to care very much. They take FOREVER to change/fix anything and when they do most of the time its garbage. They lack direction and creativity as well. I cant justify playing this game anymore and i have 4k hours. (I just enjoy horror and thats my biggest lure into DbD in the first place)

[@angrymoogle8591]

"Skill issue" is such a universal arrogant come back in a game with so many oppressive killer powers, add-ons, swf strategies, and just so many ways you can make the other sides chances of a counter play near void. XD

[@mantastyle9078]

Same. the game is only enjoyable if you are a 4 SWF group, otherwise if you are an average or soloQ player the game is in a horrific state. But devs keep going in "balancing" the game for the pro wannabe player so we are left over. Its ok I will just stop playing, I know lot of other players are quitting too and every day it passes more and more players do. The shop its been in constant price increase since months ago which clearly shows this fact

[@fearfusion1728]

Would be cool to have a party mode or casual mode I enjoyed 2v8. Please just remove MMR/PIP

[@HaKaii7]

Shuffle made come back to play for like 4 days after like 6 months and it feel so good to not play tha same perks and plays style again, once they remove that game mode not going to play until they added again I guess

[@dozzy9984]

It's not even the perks that are broken that make one side snowball and win. Because it still happens all the time on Chaos Shuffle, which basically gives people randomized perks. It's just game design at this point. Games that are even basically don't happen (maybe like 1 in 20 games). It's either killers dominating and survivors struggling to get on track or survivors dominating because killer struggles with chase.

[@christiancorley4309]

That’s how asymmetrical horror is supposed to be. If the survivors can’t get stuff done quickly, it goes down hill very fast. If the killer isn’t that good at looping, the survivors use that to their advantage.

[@ChungMyers]

I dislike commenting under any video but fully agree with you on mmr. I don't know how the mobile version of the game has a casual and ranked mode but the original PC version has a forced MMR single mode that offers no quickmatch/casual mode. It's so stupid, and I 100% believe adding a separate casual/quickmatch mode wouldn't make queues unbearable or one mode or the other unplayable. I played before MMR got introduced and dbd was arguably much more fun and consistent with the people you had in your lobby.

[@ChungMyers]

Quick thing I wanted to also add is that mobile has a ton of cool QoL stuff too I feel like should've been on PC for the longest time. ie. Post match if you haven't gone against a specific killer perk or addon as survivor, the game gives you a tooltip teaching you what it does plus giving you bloodpoints.

[@cderzy]

@@ChungMyers it's insane all the improvements they make only to the mobile version 😭thanks for commenting!

[@ChungMyers]

@@cderzy Yea fr, thanks for taking time to read my essay lol great video man :)

[@worgenlord3424]

Yeah i feel that too. Sometimes i stomp sometimes they stomp me no inbetween

[@charmbracelet20]

everything is spot on thats exactly how i feel the only reason i still play is bc they added lara

[@loganvokral9328]

I agree with everything said, something needs to change it’s the same note over and over with boring content and boring killers and survivors maps that are cluttered and hard to navigate, they have there focuses on creating other games and trashing what they already have, they only want licensing for chapters and they don’t do anything to help balance unfair playing styles and they always changing perks and killers and there are so many powers and abilities that’s way to overstimulating for survivor mains. It’s wayyyy too much content and it’s rushed and they should retire older content that’s not as popular. It’s changed so much in the past 5 months. Something needs to change

[@secretlydadumbest7427]

I've been playing DBD since the release on Nemesis, and I have just over 1600 hours.

[@Gragel_Fragel]

dbd needs to reduce the amount of chapters a year, to 2-3 it really needs to happen the bloat is to much, we also need to stop releasing perks every chapter, but then again people probably wouldnt buy the chapter if the killer sucks and the survivor is just a skin

[@TreRiot]

I feel like you took the word out of my mouth as someone who used to love this game and would come back from time to time and get frustrated at the new things all the changes and the new killers and survivor perks just make it terrible to play for me I stopped buying the dlc after wesker came out I had cells so I bought alien and I stopped playing a week after he came out I'm just now getting into the game again and there's this perk that slows me down if I get blinded as killer like wth is that why and as survivor there are perks that read your aura if you're by a chest if you're by a dropped item if you walk and people cry and moan about distortion like yeah I don't want to be seen every second of every game geez.

[@shawnpretzel6182]

Behaviors balancing has forced the game into a state of only winning or losing. It needs to be unbalanced so people can have fun. Swf should not be what survivor balancing is based on.

[@dennisweiss6621]

I got over 3k hours in the game and I would say its my favorite game to play, but at times it can be rough, man, no denying that. I think it has been shown time and time again by different content creators, that the game declined with the introduction of MMR. While in theory the MMR system sounds like a good idea, ie "you will always play with people in your skill range, thus making every match fun and interesting", what it also means is that the sweat never stops. People claim that "this is completely on your hands, just don't play to win", and that is true to an extend, but lets face it, most of the time we play to win and not just for the experience. I think this problem is much more punctuated when playing killer: as the survivor you have many moments of calm and quiet, like when you are sitting on a gen or literally chilling on a hook or slugged on the ground (as unfun as that inability to do anything can be), where as the killer you are constantly on edge, never have a really relaxed or slow moment and always need look around and juggle 4 survivors in your mind at once. It really is stressful - and that stress isn't helped by the fact that you face the survivors alone, ie if you win but used one skully tactic along the way, the other side will led you know what a horrible person you are - and if you purposefully let a survivor go and this contributes to you losing, well 9/10 survivor groups will have at least one players who will let you know what a sorry loser you are, too. The amount of times that a clearly winning group of survivors just took their W and left, without waiting for twerk show or rubbing it in at the end is less then 5 times, and I am not exaggerating. The need to BM is just that ingrained in the games DNA. And killers are of course doing some of this, too, like hitting someone on the hook, slugging and purposefully bleeding survivors out, so both sides have ample opportuninty and tools at their hand to make the other side feel bad and miserable and to rub in that they are the best. Since the introduction of MMR I had streaks were it felt like I played the DBD worldchampionship finals, but that was just a casual Tuesday evening match. The MMR started the trend of burnign out any playfullness and casualness out of the game, but what solidified it was update 6.1 Before, there was a time where playing killer felt like its objectively worst and I still stuck with it because I was a killer main. But at times I questions why I was still doing it, because survivors had so many safety nets and often felt completely safe (and basically were) and thus danced around you and basically on your nose. Then 6.1 massively leveled the playing field and pulled the rug under many survivors, who had clutched so hard under many of their perks, that they had to reevaluate the way they play. This wasn't helped by killer players who now mercilessly jumped at the opportunity to "pay the survivors back". This breed efficiency in both sides and rendered out all the fat. What was left in the aftermath was a lean, mean killing/surviving machine with barely room for playfullness. Now survivors know how to efficiently do gens and priorize gens before friends and killers how they need to tunnel and make the game 3v1 asap, or they stand no chance. Both sides play like they are backed against the wall from the get go and it shows: killers tunnel at 4 gens, because if they don't - oh no, three gens popped after the first chase that took a little bit too long. The proverbial genie is out of the bottel and we will never make the community unlearn this tactics and thus DBD lost its innocence. Its still my favorite game - kinda - but it changed, and most fail to admit to why it changed. Nowadays the DBD forums are mostly accusations from one side to the other and "us vs them" one after the other. What really helps a lot is playing both sides, there are way to many players who are playing just one side, but walking a while in the others shoes opens your mind up to their plight and how its not just "them who get all the buffs", but that their complaints most often hold some truth.

[@Galves-non]

I agree with you 100% up until about 6 mins i do get your point on new players not getting the perks and that is a problem and the dnd and Dracula killer are lame asf to me as well

[@Garry_TheExecutioner]

I suggest you play Secret Neighbor, it's kinda like DBD but without grinding (you can grind for skins but that's it) the only problem is that it has a lot of hackers and a lot of bugs. You can defeat hackers sometimes and if you play with your friends you gonna have the best experience.

[@lukadremsak4417]

only problem i have with this game is the survivors t bagging me for every pallet they drop 😂

[@objection2602]

All of these sweaty players who take DBD too seriously and competitively should just migrate to Identity V. It literally is DBD but with a more competitive and fast-paced structure and much more depth to the environment and character abilities. Also the community is not as toxic, so maybe they will get educated on basic manners after being in that community for a while.

[@osi3718]

Ah boy oh boy, so i watched this twice and i think its pretty nice, gives you an idea of bow the otherside feels and well veiws from more cadual based players or atleast those who play rarely, tho i did agree and disagree with a few stuff but I'll share my thoughts on em. I still to this day dont see the issue with sweaty people or tryhards especially when it just means they are trying their best to win or are playing the way that is ghe most ideal to them, especially when its probably what they are used to. If im playing vs players who play good and run strong perks then its hard to assume my next game or that the players im gonna go vs are worse and are chill, so you cant really expect people to play worse just cause it suits others. I do agree that its weird that you can have this happen evey single game but thats just sbmm. Concerning them adding perks and killers so often, thats just a product of live service games, only thing they could do is have perk rotations for ranked mode but they would also have to adjust some things as well. Popular Limited modes never stay because they can negatively impact the main game, longer queues mainly. So they swap em in and out, some lt modes will be fun, some boring, its to make sure that their main mode doesnt get hurt. However dbds main issue is really survivor default gen speed and to some extent map design. Killers and perks can be annoying and obnoxious because they are designed to deal with the issue that is present that behavior doesnt wanna fix. Default genspeed is fast that 1 good survivor chase can make 3 gens pop early. So killers are designed to have faster chases or have map pressure, some killers have both, vecna was probably the most blatant showcase of that and now look at dracula. Then we also have gen regressiom perks or get stopping perks like DMS and such. Now killer designs, hate or love them. I love them. They are kinda needed to be complex and so obnoxious because from a killer side it determines to an extent how free you are to run different builds. Even if they have a simple power and it being strong or having a variety and being mediocre or just being weak, it does determines alot. Look at nurse, you can legit run anything on her cause her power is strong, blight and hillbilly too. Then look at trapper, u think u can run trapper with no gen regress perks and expect to win? Yes? No? The answer is both. Why? Cause this is determined on your mmr. U can have the most fun at low mmrs but at high or even mid, that gets thrown out the door half the times. Same thing with survivors, how do they fix the issues survivors face? They give them perks that give second chances, or buffs to their goal, or buffs to movement speed etc. its just a bunch of work arounds. Ao regarldess of it all, i think the main cause of all these issues is just behavior not wanting to target the main issue directly of the game and doing a bunch of workarounds to see how they go. Perks are gonna get more annoying from both sides and killers are gonna come with even nore annoying powers.

[@cderzy]

thanks for watching, I appreciate your perspective as well. I don't have a huge issue with people tryharding. It just sucks for me as i seem to be stuck at a highish MMR yet I am a pretty casual player who would love to have some more chill games 😅Never understood that argument with the queues for different modes as i play games with much smaller player bases than DBD that can accommodate different modes without issue. Gen speed has always been the main issue, like I mentioned I made a video back in 2020 talking about that and its still the main issue!

[@Devious_Chaos]

I quit dbd all the time but always come back. Dbd is like the gf you can't get rid of lol.😂😂😂

[@nibu8743]

Dead by daylight 2 needs to happen to de bloat.

[@Stranzua]

Go watch the video 'Winning DBD without hooks' by Atomic Turtle. He's a pure example of the people who are ruining this game.

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

2v8 was amazing!! The reason why Behavior refuses to make modes permanent is due to Lobby load in times. When a mode comes out, the load in time for the regular game is MUCH longer. Causing DBD fanbase to send thousands of complaints to Behavior.

[@Renaissance464]

Nicolas Cage is know for horror, now. He practically only plays in horror movies now. Willy's Wonderland, Mandy, Color Out of Space, Longlegs, etc...

[@cderzy]

@@Renaissance464 sure he’s expanded into horror but he has a massive filmography which are mostly action/thriller movies, which is what made him famous. The other licenses in the game are horror icons, he is not.

[@Renaissance464]

@@cderzy He's definitely not a "killer/antagonist horror icon" but he is an horror icon, now. In the horror community, he's probably the most revered actor. Vincent Price and Bruce Campbell take the cake but Nicolas Cage is very very known for horror by horror fans. He is definitely a horror icon, now.

[@resik7253]

I started playing in November 2020 and have 3500 hours and yes i think i haven’t had a break from the game for over a week unless I went on a holiday over thew Atlantic but I completely agree with you especially with this hidden bullshit ranking system they have now. We used to be able to grind for the red ranks and losing pips was so easy it hurt. I’m only playing survivor so would say I’m pretty good just as anybody would be after 3k hours but still miraculously I get into one or two games every day when the killer has yellow one perk and is as baby as possible so I think this mmr is just a delusion just to get away with it

[@deeds8777]

Every time I vault and get away I get hit 8feet away from the killer it's wild to me vaulting seems useless

[@Warchief13-qr6er]

My guy all talk no cap 😂

[@cderzy]

I haven't played since i made this and dont plan to but okay lmao

[@sky.island]

not only is the community hella toxic, but they make it a PERSONAL vendetta with you. I'm typically a chill survivor/killer, but there are almost way too many times that survivors hold the game hostage whether they're winning or losing. I had 2 survivors hold the game hostage for atleast 15 minutes just bc they got 3 gen'd. I eventually found them & returned the favor by letting them bleed out. I ended up picking up the last survivor 1 tick before they bled out, let them break out, had them run laps around the whole map looking for the hatch, then downed them last minute. yeah I was toxic at the end, but that's what you get for wasting peoples time

[@MenmaKazama]

ever since they took off 2V8 I immediately unstall

[@GorryX3]

The problem is that you are playing on controller...

[@cderzy]

no its not lmao

[@babymatrix559]

I think it’s time for a newer game. I’ve seen so many people upset about the possibility of that due to licensing and having to “grind” again but the whole thing is outdated. I rather a whole new game, one where they have the resources to actually improve things rather than just piling up on an old system. Better graphics and gameplay with new game modes etc. People complain about all the money they spent on it but that’s all games in general. I don’t wanna hear crying about that. They’ve made CoD for years and fans spend money and still buy the newer ones, so I hate that argument.

[@ghost_face-bz7pr]

That's why I picked a killer like trickster I love throwing the knifes 😊

[@cderzy]

as long as you having fun that's all that matters 💪

[@cleit1802]

Yeah the game has a huge snowball problem.

[@TotallyBolero]

play texas chainsaw, new gamemode coming soon. and give the game some love and be honest they have better quality in textures and stuff and gameplay variety, its a new refreshing experience i only have 900 or something hours on dbd but and hooked on tcm with 300 so far

[@MacronLacrom]

i have 44 hours and quit. It really sucks. My KZbin has a reason for it.

[@lewa2k772]

Idk why people still play and defens this game At the state that the game is, if u don't spend money into this game u whon't have fun. And i say that because the game is not rewarding at all, even if u win or lose u just get some bloodpoints that later whon't help u lv up at all. And those purple shards(i forgot their name) u only get some while leveling up, i farmed just to get some pants unironicly almost 2 months, and the full set is way expensive. That's why i am saying that the game is not funny if u don't spend money, becaus it's not rewarding at all This game has almost a decade and it looks like it is in open beta. I played games in early acces that had more content that this game has. The only reason i say this game is still alive is because of the license. Why do u think they made now almost every month a license? Because they whant money, thats all and they don't care about the comunity and the game, because if they will rly play their game, it whon't look like now

[@DHKrieg]

To be fair, the issue with 2v8 is that it wasn't healthy for the game. Killer wait times were around 20-30 minutes, they only had the original killers and it also affected the normal mode's wait times and player pool (aka you'd go against the same few teams over and over) And on survivor, going against Nurses and Huntresses every single match got boring really fast. I enjoyed it for the first half week, got bored of it and I dropped the game until the mode was out.

[@cderzy]

yeah making it only original killers was such a bad choice imo

[@pabel9863]

I personally hate that devs just dont really care, the mmr is trash, I am playing on high mmr killer (comp team players etc) while my teammates are p100s that just leave when they hear nurse blink, they dont get any punishment, they will be toxic and will destroy the whole game, waitout 1/5minutes and play again, devs should really work on mmr and they should focus on balancing the gameplay itself, if they have added longer penalties for disconnecting mid game, it would surely make the game a bit better

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

There ya go. You played too much survivor. Mastering a couple killers is what makes the game super fun

[@JCMooney]

What other games do you enjoy playing right now? I also find myself playing dead by daylight on and off and want to branch out and explore other things.

[@cderzy]

I play some different kinds of games. DBD is so unique i don't really have anything similar. Always liked shooters so rn playing Fortnite and The Finals. Also playing through Witcher 3 so i have a single player option. And i like basketball a lot so NBA 2k25 too lol

[@immortal_SO]

I respect your decision to stop playing. Good video. 2k Is worse kept though. Coming from someone who plays a lot of DBD. But I was always a 2k player before DBD existed. 2k14-17 was peak. I play DBD and smite that’s basically it now. Dropped 2k and madden long ago because sports games are that shite. I really only play fifas

[@wolk6129]

as a new player this game feels like LeagueOfLegends there is just too much to learn and the core aspects of the game always promoting a more competitive enviroment leaves little to no room for learning as you play naturally since 90% of games are stomps on either sides PLUS more often than not you're playing agaisn't veterans since the game isn't newbie friendly at all making new players quit really fast its a very miserable experience playing this thing and its not simply a player-base thing either,for example i bought Hunt Showdown recently (along with this game actually) and even tho i suck at FPS games and that thing is fairly hard-core in its gameplay-style the game just keeps me going because of how it is ballanced all throughout and there is enough space between matches to learn the game,there's never a full-blown stomp situation so the window for you to learn the game as you play is plenty,such scenario is completely lacking in DBD and League for example

[@cderzy]

I cant even imagine trying to get into dbd as a new player nowadays

[@jR0xas]

Started playing in beta and the game lost me somewhere around Clown's release. Feels like a different game now without all its charm. It doesn't help that the gameplay fundamentally hasn't changed at all. We've been watching progression bars go up for years. The game is definitely impossible to find fun while playing alone now. Back in 2016 I'd grind this game for hours on my own. I never play current day DbD by myself. DbD is actually the only pvp game where winning or the strategy to winning is the single most boring aspect of the game. If you wanna have fun you have to go out of your way to throw games for it. I'd describe modern DbD as watered down but also bloated at the same time. The game is less unique while having way too much stuff. Feels like a mobile game version of 2016 DbD where everything is just made by a company trying to make the maximum amount of profit instead of being made with passion. People who didn't play DbD when it was still an indie game don't understand when I say this and blame it all on nostalgia. Old DbD players will understand what I mean. Yeah old DbD might have been broken but we loved it for what it was and it's not like modern DbD isn't broken. 😂

[@NNNateMMMate]

It's so stressful playing killer

[@theravenman]

Can’t handle the heat, go back to playing survivor

[@NNNateMMMate]

@@theravenman Killer more fun though. Survivor is chill but boring.

[@noizusagi6901]

stressful playing survivor too. solo que.

[@Solt-e8k]

I agree with the mmr thing

[@95PercentHelium]

he got that MorePegasus thumbnail 😭

[@cderzy]

😂😂😂

[@n0tce228]

ranked mode is no different than casual mode

[@Chqred]

I play mobile and there's a ranked and unranked mode. There's still people sweating in quick play

[@Kevinperes333]

Like yess, inclusive with the "chill mode" they still swfs and tryhard people like that don t gonna change nothing lmfao

[@worgenlord3424]

I really dont like that there are 40 maps with variants so ppl need like 2khrs at least to be decent on every map. I just want like 10 maps that are good and i can master that faster beacuse now its too much.

[@drs4983]

The problem with 2v8 was the massively bloated killer queue times in either mode

[@B3ARTHEDAD]

Only 1k hours since 2016???? Kind of hard to trust the source when you’ve put such a little amount of hours in for as long as you’ve been playing

[@B3ARTHEDAD]

I do agree with you tho on how stressful this game can be

[@cderzy]

I play a lot of other games but like I said there were periods of times where this was my main game. Also I've always watched a lot of DBD content and always kept up with what was happening

[@leonardofontes7007]

I feel like they turned off mmr

[@owencooper6277]

i started playing over a year ago, 2000 hours ;-;

[@SullyDad]

Definitely haven’t played league 😂 everything you said x10 it and that’s league of legends.

[@cderzy]

nah I'm not a league guy🤣

[@SullyDad]

@@cderzy don’t ever do it 🤣

[@odinulveson9101]

Agree 100% I dont get why theres this stale 1 mode with gens, insanity really. But...WHAT? There was 2 v 8??? When? I though I was one of few who wanted such.. I would gladly jump back in. As long as the devs dont get spinless and ditch it again becsuse some unhinged &€÷×&# send threats or whatnot. And lights out mode? Sounds intriguing, Im sure they could improve it? So close to finally expand DbD potentiale and then crack😂 Heck. 2 vs 8 good start, permanent! Also how about 1 vs 1 killer duels, 6 vs 1 vs 1. Where the killers compete and can kill each other over killing the surviviors. Aaand 4 vs 4 survivors only for some non murderous competition😁 And modes shouldnt replace older ones if a decent chunk of players are at it! Say the standard generators with 4 vs 1 shouldnt be replaced by 2 vs 8, 4 vs 4, 1 vs 1 or 6 vs 1 vs 1. Again the base mode should neither content gate the aforementioned ones. So many years so much potentiale untapped! DONT let it be squandered!