Dead By Daylight All 8.3.0 Survivor Perk Changes

[@HeSpeaksFluentJapanese]

What would be a huge improvement in this game is fixing the matchmaking system for starters. Solo queue is so unbalanced that it breaks the game, no matter what build you use.

[@ThePotchili]

I lack faith in BHVR’s ability to balance anything properly

[@dark_familiarity]

if everything is op, it's balanced.

[@v1lIo]

I second what first dude said, they have previously been nerfing everything to the ground, which is the reason some perks were drastically better since bhvr didnt touch them. But now they are starting to do the opposite and buff everything and in this case, the worst that could happen is some perks will be weaker than the majority. Still, a massive success compared to what we had all this time

[@ElConio]

​​@@dark_familiarityWhat a braindead take. If everything is op, it just means there's unbalanced bs on both sides, and now you're hoping your perks will be more op than the perks of the other side.

[@P.a.r.a.d.o.x]

It's easier said than done in a game like this though, they are not aiming to do it imo rather rotating buffs and nerfs to keep different groups of player base interested.

[@Benjinator-y6z]

😂 how behaviour would respond: I find your lack of faith disturbing. (Deep breath)

[@dmitry8676]

It would be better if you add perk icon before description👌

[@hagadizle]

I do love that distortion will only work for people in chases

[@SkyBlitz64]

or against the new Predator, most likely.

[@supercalifragilistaphobic2146]

Getting tunneled entirely defeats the purpose of an anti tunnel perk killer main. Most tunnel now.

[@chriswalker810]

Yeah and Gear Head chews through old Distortion like it was nothing. So why did Distortion need to be changed and not Gear Head?

[@hagadizle]

@@chriswalker810 I didn't expect it to bet 30 seconds now 15 second chase for tge token. When my comment was posted. Just heard when you're in chase and the killer drops chase you get the token.

[@archangelvalentine]

I'm glad to learn these updates with your visuals tbh, makes it easier to understand even if I don't know when these reworks come to mobile if ever

[@wallacewells2822]

The Corrective Action change is the only broken one, everything else is at least decent.

[@KRONOS115]

Quick gambit is free value and doesnt notify the killer

[@fishmaster_dbd]

Predator and Zenshin are stupidly op too.

[@KRONOS115]

@@fishmaster_dbd what does pred do? Zenshin is only really strong on pyramid head

[@wallacewells2822]

@@KRONOS115 Quick Gambit is another one I'm not completely sure of, however, the speed boost is not even that much

[@wallacewells2822]

@@fishmaster_dbd I was talking about survivor perks

[@Kenny_ATMOZ]

I do like the Distortion change. Having one perk being able to counter like 15 other perks is not good design. Neither is that distortion might also be completely useless against stealth killers. Making it so that you can't hide all game without interacting with the killer at all while also making sure that its viability is the same against every killer is just fair in my opinion.

[@Supboi]

Love these videos! I'm so glad you take the time to set up and test these things!

[@Intensity764]

I like poised because this allow me to take the first chase with quick gambit 🔥

[@ashmo_]

Distortion nerf was not a fix. Now were going to have teammates blessing totems all match for shadow step...

[@BubbaJoey01]

The Distortion changes make me so happy

[@artrite9267]

Overall I feel like this patch is decent, even when you see the few bad things like the mori offerings removal, afk gens or the zanshin tactics change there was at least an attempt to improve things. They also did a decent distortion rework, even though I think it would have been better doing otz's suggestion with the twist of showing the entire team which perk burned a token. Don't get fooled by the rats, distortion's real value was never the stealth, it was always the info and how it only requires a single dude using it for the entire team to benefit and play around the killer's aura reading. The live version has 2 problems, 1 is not being as useful when playing solo and the other is making so much easier to rat the entire match. Some people that contribute to nothing for the team end up staying alive more frequently than what they deserve, usually at the sacrifice of the players that actually try to loop and take the killer away from gens. The devs only tried to address one of these 2 which is my only problem with the rework. Even though, distortion or not, there will still be people ratting, at the very least this rework will help mitigate it considering how stronger distortion makes ratting.

[@ElConio]

Decent? There's like 10+ poorly thought out changes, this is literally one of the worst patches in recent times.

[@artrite9267]

@@ElConio Are you saying they introduced lots of glitches, made twins overkill and also broke the entire game like the 7.7.0 or worse? All I see are some buffs to underused perks with a few of them becoming obviously overtuned so no way they are going live, a flawed mori rework, small nerfs to killers they deemed overtuned and dms, big nerfs to 2 problematic things: distortion's parasitical playstyle and skull merchant's anti loop that's more annoying than clown's, worse than any other killer power for new players to learn and also never had the reception they expected. The balance is definitely in the positive.

[@ElConio]

@@artrite9267 One of the worst recent patches, never said THE worst. Like I said, still pretty bad: 1 - Mori offering changes 2 - The feature that removes nearby objects during moris not functioning properly 3 - Skull Merchant rework 4 - Distortion nerf, they literally could have lowered it's tokens to 2, or increased the time it takes to recharge a token to nerf it more healthily 5 - Zanshin Tactics going from a niche interesting perk to a braindead aura perk 6 - Predator rework also being a braindead aura perk that punishes survivors for winning a chase 7 - Teamwork: Power of Two removing all conditions except the distance one, not a problem in solo q, but it definitely can be in a swf. Distance buff would have been reasonable 8 - Teamwork: Collective Stealth has the same issue as Power of Two 9 - Corrective Action change is just dumb 10 - We're Gonna Live Forever insane buff. Like it totally won't be busted because of a 30 seconds cooldown, real great thinking bhvr This is just off the top of my head. Also previous patches had some bad decisions like sabo buffs, 70 seconds hook stages, Knight rework, etc... The game is definitely piling up the bad changes with each recent update.

[@artrite9267]

@@ElConio 1 - It could have been better. 2 - Same as 1. 3 - Better than live even though it's at the cost of gutting her, which for quite a lot of people is still a win since they want her completely gone. 4 - Bullshit, the way it works live makes it a great tool for people that want to do nothing the entire match while the teammates get sacrificed. The reworked version is a good counter to chase aura reading, still gives info on the killer's build and doesn't directly reward people for playing like parasites. 5 - Depends on the killer, but still bad changes that they need to revert or tweak. 6 - You have a problem with predator... 7 - The silly perk will encourage 2 dumbasses to goof around the killer instead of splitting up so 1 can work on gens. Fun for survivors and the killer gets 2 guys out of gens. Literally no problem for both sides. 8 - And also a problem with collective stealth... 9 - No way this will go live considering how unintended the effects with hf seem + the reactions to it. 10 - Maybe it would be fine to increase the cooldown by like 15 seconds? I guess? This isn't buckle up ftp so no way there will be insta pick ups happening before the killers can finish the hit animation, it won't really work that differently from how it does live. Sabo changes did not change how to react to a sabo play, the extra seconds aren't really that impactful for most people and the knight got a nice quality of life buff.

[@ElConio]

​@@artrite9267 Predator is getting reworked. Now, if you lose a chase you see the survivors aura, so yeah, I have a problem with an aura read perk that rewards you for losing the chase, it's quite dumb actually, not sure why you are acting puzzled about it. Also, calling Power of Two a "silly goofy" perk, when it gives you 5% haste, allowing you to loop the killer for much longer, while the other 2 survivors do gens, feels like a very disingenuous argument, or shows you don't really understand this game all that much. What can I say, but that we don't agree. You have a very optimistic outlook on some pretty dumb/busted changes, so there's no point in discussing further.

[@neco_arc14]

Does this update have a date to be released?

[@cheesesteak2795]

Since distortion will be nerfed soon, Are there any other survivor perks that can hide your aura from the killer?

[@nutragxxx7082]

Off the record, shadow step

[@randomguy6695]

Also Sole Survivor once it gains tokens.

[@sixthaxis5236]

Wait so does Blood Rush still have the self heal? If so thats pretty powerful tbh. Get unhooked and sprint burst away from the killer if they're nearby, then blood rush for more speed and a built-in syringe. And even if the killer wants to tunnel you, you still have endurance from the unhook and it becomes almost guaranteed to be full health.

[@usahknights]

It no longer damages or heals you, it's just essentially an OTR sidegrade with an exhaustion cleanse instead of endurance

[@supercalifragilistaphobic2146]

@@usahknights since 6.1 nearly all chases not counting huge skill disparity end w surv caught thx to vehavior even if they ran until the gates were fkn open from the first 20 sec or so into the game. Exhaustion might let u flee and force a tunnel of a diff laborer. Beats a heal and still tunneled at 10k chase cap no chance to do anything. Think its called Oversomething use that , blood rush , sprint or lithe and iron will or calm spirit now on or play only kills if ur solo I suggest. Gamde wasnt meant forso much sweat.

[@thatfishguy4991]

Does distortion stay active while in chase?

[@NotAnElf]

Would Power of Two stack with Blood pact, Cheryl's perk (i think its called)? Also, Lucky star got a dang glow up.

[@reknak8081]

yes they stack, use boon dark theory as well and you have a fun build

[@Freaky3384]

tbh i love the new distortion as a distortion player , i never use it as a stealth perk neither when playing solo , i use it when im playing swf to get information of the killer's perks i dont mind getting chased

[@Lior1055]

Not every survivor wants to try to loop the killer for 5 gens. There are matches where there is so much aura reading that the only reason a gen gets completed is because someone had distortion. Stealth is a playstyle that's constantly getting butchered. Survivors need multiple playstyles that speak to multiple people. Bringing up a distortion player that's hiding all game is silly. I use it to reliably focus on objectives or to even have the chance to make it to the hatch. The latest chapter just came out with ANOTHER aura reading perk for Killer and they're nerfing the only counter to this aura spam. It gives important information that you'll never get without it. People assume hacks when it's just more and more and more aura reading. Just look at Zanshin Tactics. Whatever.

[@watashinoweakness]

Not every killer wants to try to regress all 5 gens to 0. There are matches where there is so much gen regression that the only reason a gen gets completed is because I ran out of Pain Res stacks. Aura reading is a playstyle that's constantly getting butchered. Killers need multiple playstyles that speak to multiple people. Bringing up a nurse player that's using I'm All Ears is silly. I use aura reading to reliably focus on getting from 1 chase to another or to even have the chance to chase someone. The latest chapter just came out with ANOTHER gen slowdown perk for killer and I don't even want to run that many. It creates an unhealthy meta for both sides that you'll never get without it. People assume merciless storm is bugged when it's just more and more and more gen regression. Just look at Pain Res. Whatever.

[@GoldenKirby]

Sounds like we should just play different games

[@unmurcal]

What's the point of playing the game if you only hide and watch progress bars slowly fill up?? Why don't you go in a custom game with a friend and tell him to stay afk so you can do your gens in peace?

[@strangeone7198]

Because stealth makes the game boring as fuck. Why even play dbd if you aren't willing to actually play the meat of the game. Chasing is where the main focus is because it's engaging. Nothing fun about a 20 min game of playing hide and seek.

[@salinaember9527]

no one wants to hide in a locker anymore? pfft

[@supercalifragilistaphobic2146]

Once again they buff swf the same move they spit in soloQ face knowing killer gonna b at least 5 minute q as it is now u face nothing but swf or claim disk storage back for other games finally.

[@rebel-act]

If corrective action and hyperfocus goes live like it works in PTB, I will slug. Already have a good slug build ready with my Singularity. Bring it...

[@thatfishguy4991]

I stg I wanna go back to the gen regression meta bc all these aura perks are so exhausting and they just keep buffing survivor gen perks

[@usahknights]

Hm, yes, intentionally aim to create a miserable experience for the other side despite not knowing what the other side brings out of spite for a change you don't like and the players have no control over, truly a course of action any well-adjusted adult would take By the way, pretty sure they've confirmed Corrective Action won't make it to live like this, mind you I don't have a clue how this flew past initial testing without adding an additional condition like a cooldown on the great skill checks and/or needing the perk carrier to hit Greats themselves

[@rebel-act]

@@usahknights Read what I wrote...if they can pop a gen within 27 seconds.. well then BHVR want us to slug... What the hell do you want killers to do then? Lol. Get real would you please. QQ

[@3ngan498]

Distortion change was bs

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

Not ganna sugar coat it, these (survivor) perks are garbage.

[@clarkgriffin7436]

The distortion nerf is so unnecessary

[@AstrakRed]

Unnecessary? It was fking disgusting not able to find that last survivor because he was hiding all the fucking game

[@unknown_bot4199]

Ik dramaturgy build won’t be the same but there are other perks people can use

[@doomslayer8025]

and so was the mori change

[@unknown_bot4199]

@@doomslayer8025 Onb nobody needs a mori change

[@wallacewells2822]

R u fr?

[@jeremysaynomore7175]

I hope we are gonna live forever don't go live

[@UwULilyKitsune]

??? i like that change its literally jsut better than it used to be

[@adellia-h]

Why?

[@supercalifragilistaphobic2146]

@@adellia-h only buffs swf while solo nerfs make killer Q longer just to face way more swf when ur only willing to ever play killer until solo can do more than work unpaid for behavior and their customer 3 n 4 man groups

[@WulfricPendragon]

@@supercalifragilistaphobic2146 WGLF buffs solo too, not just swf. Also, its not a problem for killer if they don't slug.

[@DGCR0]

@@WulfricPendragon wglf is actually unsable if it dosen't get buffed EVEN the endurance is bugged it dosen't proc endurance sometimes

[@Isaac_646]

So they changed a bunch of survivor perks to be better, and nerfed a bunch of killers? Oh yeah thats fair.

[@blueboy1958]

They also buffed alot of killer perks. Read the patch notes fully bud, don't just cherry pick

[@DGCR0]

@@blueboy1958i think this patch was more like a....variety patch for us to be able to use perks just that they mean buffed more survivor perks dosen't they are going to be bad for killers

[@HeliosEffect]

9:09 what my teammates do instead of doing generators

[@atomic3968]

Protecting themselves?