I Investigated How The WORST Player Threw My Game

[@Yami_Soryu]

Do not throw in this mans lobbies he'll make a 20 minute essay on you 😭 Love it

[@PawWolf]

I'd cry if I saw myself 💀💀💀

[@Jake-kc6js]

You should do the opposite of this and see who carried games

[@Bad3abdul]

i think carry is a harder one to make a vid on since a lot of times many people can be involved in a play

[@krunshii2468]

@@Bad3abdulthe same can be said for a throw

[@LibreWolfUser]

​@krunshii2468 No, because mistakes are more easily identifiable than good plays. It's hard and rare to find games where both teams were equally good, but someone was just a bit better. Usually it's who got the less worse teammates

[@krunshii2468]

@@LibreWolfUser i said that many people are still involved in a play that goes wrong, didn’t say anything about mistakes being more easily identifiable

[@LibreWolfUser]

@@krunshii2468 You were trying to justify OP's point tho. And I pointed out how actually telling is a good play is, very hard since most of the time its just punishing another players mistakes.

[@astrophel5737]

Imagine playing comp and seeing yourself in a video essay

[@reverendnon5959]

It would be a good surprise

[@TheBoiMario]

Ashe should have used the ability that plugs in the monitor tbh

[@error404webpagenotfound]

I fear it was on cooldown.

[@simbadg13]

8:30 masters all roles here. thats not a point for your ana. She is a bit too close but has the cart as cover and youre there too. It is a point for ashe. Even if your ana was further back she doesnt have the best los on ashe to keep her up. Also ana needs to focus more on healing you and looking for potential nades/sleeps as its more important. Ashe has an amazing angle but since her aim and reactions are shite it doesnt matter. She easily had a chance to get an elim on soj or drop down to get healed after wiffing 4 shots. A better ashe would take that angle and get the soj or at the very least damage her enough to have soj retreat and not just jump up to her to duel her and win

[@Ross516]

Yeah, while supports need to be aware of their team, I equally think the team needs to be aware of their support and *how* they heal.

[@simbadg13]

@Ross516 exactly once ashe started taking damage she should've realized she probably won't win and needs to drop to get heals so even if sojourn pushes she can be potentially helped or in a safer spot instead of ego dueling and losing

[@Cozyfox_66-db6fv]

More of these videos pls, it’s fun to watch people in high ranks forget to play the game.

[@TheWatchOverOW]

True it's just for fun. I'm glad you liked it.

[@liminalcriminal_]

@@TheWatchOverOW For real. I’d watch this avidly if you made it a series.

[@diemrcupcake]

I wouldn't call plat a high rank

[@Bad3abdul]

@@TheWatchOverOW very fun man would love to see more videos like this

[@Bad3abdul]

@@diemrcupcake ok bro

[@melsmadnesss]

Honestly gotta give some props to your kiri for being sentient.

[@cloudstrife9188]

God I could feel the tilt from the Mercy/Kiri when people were dying from spawn by the widow. People need more brains, but also widow sucks to play against with Sombra in the state she's in currently.

[@Bad3abdul]

lol can relate

[@marsoulini]

Lol I could just feel the frustration when she was hiding in that room trying to heal people who were dead like 1 second after.

[@FrootLoopsChemist]

You needed way more points. And this video is just blaming everyone else and not yourself.

[@i_rezz5354]

8:36 saying that this ashe's death is on the ana is a little ridiculous the ashe is completely los'ing heals for an angle that is barely better than the one below her.

[@saiko5996]

Your positioning and the fights you took should have netted you an incredible amount of points, too. Many many times did you simply walk in by yourself and expect your team to be with you/follow you only for them to get out of position to do so and die

[@Drizzydiddler]

On jah that was annoying me. He kept admitting he did but would cousin it by saying “but I went into a good position” like tf does that matter you’re in early end of

[@bruhmoment1247]

Well his team should be helping their tank right? Idk why so many teams just sit in choke while their tank is trying to take space

[@Drizzydiddler]

@ if you’re in metal ranks or any ranks really you can’t expect everyone to play how you want or to be on their best game take the initiative and look out for where your team is if they don’t go with you then you simply go with them you’ll have a better chance of winning from a bad position with support than praying they’ll come their senses (they won’t)

[@Seven-vn6qi]

he absolutely inted that first point contest for no reason, its baffling how he didnt think so. no one should ever push a fight like that with a dead mercy and a illari as ur backline

[@brandoncole5533]

13:30 i would lowkey give you a point only because you couldve used defense matrix to at least let them get out of the room.

[@Bad3abdul]

true tbf but i think that wouldv'e cost a dm and basically start a fight not needed

[@NotMikey437]

thats exactly what I was thinking

[@oystersock]

it's not a waste of dm if his teammates can walk out of spawn and they can take a real team fight imo. instead of standing around and waiting to regroup doing literally nothing he could've turned around to make sure his teammates at least had an opportunity to walk out in the first place

[@GuidedByCompassion]

I like how the Mercy/Ana/Kiriko player doesn't have a censored name because he knows no one will get mad at them. 13:10 in this section of the video you can see the frustration in her movements as she is healing teammates while waiting out the Widowmaker ult, all while watching people wander out of the room and get picked.

[@r.9006]

8:40 that was not ana’s fault, she was opening an angle to use an agressive nade which is not a wrong play, ashe died because he went foward into a kind of open space without full hp against a charged soj, when she should have just dropped for the same angle on lowground but with supports LOS.

[@Bad3abdul]

i think the problem was the angle ana decided to go aggressive with at that angles she's open to a lot like a headshoot or a hook but i see your point

[@r.9006]

@@Bad3abdul I agree that the angle that she took was kinda risky but in the way he says on the video, looks like he is blaming ana for the ashe death when its not really her fault

[@Bad3abdul]

@r.9006 I agree on what you said here

[@hopscotch5872]

I don't understand why Ana has to be so close to land the nade though. As she is a sniper, I don't think her being right next to the tank makes sense.

[@LibreWolfUser]

​@@r.9006​No that was a bad play by Ana. Ashe went high ground assuming she was gonna get healing from the Ana cause she was in the LoS. Ana didn't look up and could have thrown nade to heal the Ashe or even kill the Soj that pushed up. Keeping the other Dps's off angle is better than what you were saying. This the problem with supports that don't look around.

[@UmadImUp]

This guy just ignoring all his own mistakes 😂😂😂😂

[@Frallicus]

I gotta say one of the biggest issues I noticed for round one that wasnt player wise is your team comp, the team goes from being in the middle of wanting to either be a brawl or poke comp, to the moment you swap to doom there is no synergy, your supports look more poke forward, youre playing a dive tank, and your dps are looking more for a brawl Now as for round 2, the team looks a lot more balanced with equal commitment to poke as much as a brawl so it works out a lot more compared to the first, and despite the swaps the comp seems to have a 2 battle focused comp so it works slightly better (despite the fact your teammates forgot widow was in play)

[@LazerDisk]

I don’t think an entire team should have to play around a widow. Bad game design.

[@octomarette]

Ts so petty bruh😭😭😭

[@olix182]

too be honest you should get more points your positioning wasnt really that good

[@idkaname7406]

Meh you could have bad positioning and still win I have bad positioning but I still win because my team is competent

[@rhiisnow]

​@@idkaname7406 are you plat?

[@Felipe-qb4px]

ikr? he started the fight with one less teammate so many times it’s outrageous

[@Bad3abdul]

hmmm if he tried to position well a lot of time he wouldv'e lost support los because his team couldn't follow up on his play Like emongg says positioning is key but identifying how your teammates play is another

[@xdidact6911]

His positioning and timing are ok for the rank he is currently. My advice would be don't take a fight when one down. Try and have Los to min 1 Support. And hug corners more espacially when against Zen. If he puts discord on you wait behind the corner, you cannot be pushing into the enemy team while discorded it's too costly for your team and they cannot sustain you.

[@mexicocitytexas409]

I don’t get this idea. It’s always “someone threw” never “the enemy team out played us and got the advantage.” It’s a Competitive game, someone HAS to lose.

[@CarltonBank]

You needed way more points

[@Helmut_Kohl]

A dead tank should be more points thoug since a tank is way more important in a team fight than a random dps. Throwing this game was definitely a team effort

[@19rena]

11:31 Honestly, i wouldn't give Ana a point for swapping off with nano. Realistically, who was she going to give nano here? When nobody else has ult to follow up with nano and i just know the dps still wouldn't get anything done with it. Swapping to Kiriko to be able to help Dva more was way better than staying on Ana with no useful nano targets.

[@Ross516]

Agreed. Plus, if she stayed on Ana to find a good place to ult, that would be probably around 30 seconds to upward a minute and a half wasted. Sometimes you need to just lose the ult and swap for value

[@dasan664]

I personally think that nano is kind of well versed that she could've used it to keep him up longer maybe, but you are right she most likely wouldn't have gotten value.

[@lazarus3100]

I can't help but feel this is exceptionally biased and salt-based. For example, At 14:14, you say the Ashe forgets the Widow exists, but they were far more likely seeing you and Kiriko diving the Widow and assuming you'd finish the job.

[@ss-nu3qf]

Sure, but the killfeed never confirmed her death, so Ashe should've known better

[@warmwatertastesround9171]

@@ss-nu3qf tbh you would assume that two heroes who eat widow for breakfast could kill her when shes exposed alone

[@toast1019]

@@ss-nu3qf didnt the ashe forget that the widow died on 1st point atk and keep scoping up on the high ground though...ashe probably wasnt the brightest

[@honeycrispsnail4032]

not only that but not giving himself a point on the very first round, first point recontest despite literally just feeding them 600 HP because they’re 1) down a support and 2) the entirety of the enemy team has all of their cooldowns ready for the singular orisa that’s charging in like an idiot. his team played back and were “slow to follow” because they were waiting to group up. no wonder they got steam-rolled.

[@oponentgull186others4]

First off, the widow moved back to the middle of ashe’s sights, and second off, earlier in the game they didn’t notice that widow had already died and kept looking for them.

[@fewry-_-7394]

I'll note out your biggest mistakes. Biggest one is not swapping off Orisa with an Illari Mercy support comp. Before I continue tho I want to emphasize this is moreso not to say you threw the game, but how you could have made a big difference despite your team also clearly feeding XD. 2:15 you at least recognize that you go deep but there are multiple things you didn't account for, and you went too deep regardless. You pathed to the opposite end of the cart so even if you had an Ana or a Bap, they would have a very hard time keeping you up as you completely LOS them if they followed you in. Considering you had Illari, who is a close range healer, you should also recognize that Pylon would not be a reliable source of healing for you and in order for Illari to heal you, she would have to go in much deeper than she would be safe to do so when the enemy team has an Ashe, Sojourn and Sigma. She would get blown up near instantly trying to get to you. As far as I'm concerned, with Mercy down and your team unable to take a proper off-angle to re-contest and support you, trying to touch here was guaranteed suicide and should've never been considered. 3:45 Your mercy here is throwing by not going onto your cass for his off angle. Him being down there is lowkey fine as long as he has mercy with him and you can push up while he's taking some heat. After he dies though the team should just push back and reset. Illari Mercy with no Sigma is eating through resources and you guys are getting demolished by poke. Unless you can be prepared with your team to push out and aggressively take space (a lot of coordination, which you acknowledge that your team didn't have), its gonna be a losing fight nearly every fight. Doom swap is decent here but its yet another tank that is going to struggle at getting support from an Illari Mercy support comp. 5:00 You do recognize everything in this but this also further supports why doom is only a decent pick with an Illari Mercy comp. Against their comp, it would be great if you had an Ana or even a Juno so you could get some ranged healing, but given your own support lineup, you cant survive after you get that level of value and your team doesn't get a chance to follow up with it. You likely would have survived and would have been a great play otherwise, just not the right comp to do it with. 7:25 Not a mistake, but just giving props, this comp is significantly better compared to the entire first half, however Moira swapped out with either a Mercy or Zen would've been even better. 8:00 not exactly a mistake on either player's part, just pointing out when against a hog with a double sniper comp you are gonna have to keep an eye on him and deny majority of his hook attempts. Snipers on havana get a lot of value but they still need to push into decently vulnerable positions vs. a hog, and if they don't get you to deny them, they are significantly easier to hook due to them usually being scoped. Widow could have been more aware yes, but you also could have prevented it too. 8:15 I'd like to note the enemy team and your team at this point in general. Hog is going to be playing fairly similarly to how Orisa should have been played on defense first point. Hog recognized that his resources were getting low and that your team had gotten a few picks, and was retreating. Normal retreat path is going to be to car first, and he pathed there because he had no resources and was able to get cover from your snipers while still getting healed long range from his supports (that are also long range, not an illari mercy), so he can replenish his take a breather and get a bit more health so he can survive the cross. Because of that, your team did play as well as they could've and forced them back successfully, but the hog also survived and managed to get back into a position to be able to take another fight. Hog wasn't moving to car to hold the position, but moreso to buy more time for his team to back up and also to buy himself time to get more resources to survive. 8:35 This is why mercy or zen would've been much better than a Moira. Ana's positioning isn't great no especially since your Ashe had control of high ground so she really didn't have much to fear from an off-angle, but she also would've struggled to heal the Ashe anyway. After Ashe dies, you really should have been trying to poke out the Soj as soon as you got a pick on the hog. Sig spheres go far and have a lot more explosion damage, Soj is in much the same situation your Ashe was in where she is up on high ground without LoS of a support that can heal her, you would force her out in seconds and she likely never would have gotten a pick onto your reaper. In cases like that you can either choose to throw a shield in front of her and then continue forcing back their frontline, or you throw a shield in front of their frontline and poke out the Soj. You can handle both while still contesting cart, its why Sig is such a powerful pick on havana. 9:15 From this point all the way up until widow pops walls, you were playing great. Reaper getting picked off is unfortunate but it is what it is, and pushing up where you did to lock them down was also great, you even stayed in LoS of your supports so you could sufficiently lock it down as best as you could. You are correct as well that your Ashe should have tried to back off after Widow popped walls before any of you could get info on where she is, however after Ashe got picked, you should have dedicated to a regroup. Both dps down with a widow running free and away from your attention on Havana is going to be brutal to take a fight into. Remember, getting out is better than dying if you can, as the enemy team will get less ult charge. Sig can also poke at them and farm ult while they try to chase him down. 10:50 Start using your shield more offensively especially against widow. If you can see her and poke her out, an even better way to force her to reposition is an annoying barrier right in front of her face that she can't reliably break. It will also prevent your Ana from getting one-tapped. Past that you did what you could. 12:00 You actually don't deserve a point here if I'm gonna be honest. Yes you can get more value but you still forced pretty much every escape cooldown on their team with that ultimate. That bare minimum means their backline has to play defensively and if you were able to catch a glimpse of the Dva boosting into your team, you probably could've secured a kill on her especially since the Bob is now there denying them from getting LoS on their Dva. I think you could work on giving attention to the enemy tank a bit more often. The thing with Poke is knowing when to push aggressively. Dva gets out and all of their resources are burned, but the team doesn't push in after the fact to secure anything. You guys are HEAVILY up on resources and they're running on fumes, but you give them the opportunity to recover all of that and still be alive enough to do an ultimate recontest of their own. 12:40 Swapping to Dva here isn't really the play unless your team swaps to a dive comp. Sigma is the best tank you could pick with your current comp, you could maybe dive with your moira if she knew what she was doing but you know she doesn't at this point in the game. I think a winston would've been a better alternative as you can at least dive the Widow care-free while also providing a bubble at her position to ensure she can't stay there. Your team getting spawncamped is kind of a result of this decision. Sure, they can 100% have more brains and take the other door, but you know they don't and Sigma is excellent for ensuring a safe push through a lane. He has a shield he can move forward for the push, and he has grasp that can eat all poke damage as long as they follow you like ducklings. 14:45 Your dps should've swapped to dive, but if the team coordination wasnt there in the first place, your team should still be running the sig comp with double sniper. It sucks but its better than leaving your dps behind to be easy pickings vs. a Dva when your tank and supports dive without them. That places too much pressure on them playing well, which they can't do. Great play attempt and good job on getting out after the fact when you recognized you couldn't stay. Overall, I would say you don't perform poorly, but you aren't recognizing why we play certain comps, and how to actually rank up. Your team 100% did not do great and even if you were sticking with Sig the whole time, I think there's a solid chance you still would have lost after watching the enemy team. But I think that match could have been MUCH closer, and if you can pull that off, you would win significantly more games overall and you would get less of those bad teammates. When picking a tank, keep in mind your comp unless you feel you HAVE to make a play otherwise you can't win the game, because running a solid comp minimizes how well your teammates have to play in return. If your dps are running double sniper and you decide to swap to dive, and they refuse to swap to dive characters, yes it is their fault and they threw the match, but think of it like this. If they dont swap, your dps have to now play significantly better to get the same value they could brainlessly get if they were on a dive dps in a dive comp, and if they aren't capable of doing so, they get extraordinarily low value. In solo queue, being able to ensure your team gets value wherever they can is how you can ensure more wins. Overall funny vid tho, teammates are rough man

[@notster7114]

good comment, read it all

[@dasan664]

This was Amazing

[@iStorm-my5fp]

You could be biased. You might have made more errors than you're accounting for

[@NotMikey437]

Yea for example not saving the teammates from Widow with defense matrix when they were getting sniped out of spawn

[@immortaldev1489]

@@NotMikey437 no point in camping with your squishes and dm'ing just the widow, massive waste of resources angles you're giving up with zero pressure on the widow (his team doesn't shoot at the widow 80% of the time even if he was dm'ing his team). Waiting for your tank to pressure your widow out to get access to more angles/swing is a much better plan

[@oponentgull186others4]

@@NotMikey437the best that would have done is wasted a bit of time. Also it’s kinda hard to save a teammate from a one shot when you don’t know where it’s coming from.

[@NotMikey437]

@@oponentgull186others4 there's literally only one opening from that spawn what do you mean where it's coming from. He clearly knew where the widow was.

[@Ahmad-pd7fq]

Man this video was fun, maybe you could make more of the "who threw" videos, it is also a great learning opportunity!

[@Cleanpup108]

Very good concept of video, keep up this series. However my main criticism is that with you also being platinum, your judgement to attribute mistakes isnt fully accurate. Personally I noticed missed points and even points that were given to the wrong player I would look into having a higher ranked player analyze the game themselves, then contrast your findings to your own. Some good content there

[@dlanor15]

Well, you are on orisa _on havana_ while your teammates are on double sniper, so I'll give you 10 points for that.

[@saikowife]

when you're the worst player throwing your own game but you're too biased to even realize so much of what happened in this game was in direct coorelation to your decisions... you needed to give yourself so many more points. self aware enough to know you're not a good player, but not enough to take accountability or understand your mistakes.

[@oponentgull186others4]

He wasn’t even close to the worst one there. He had some bad plays, but most of the game, 1 or more teamate was off in narnia getting themselves killed. Almost every single fight.

[@Seven-vn6qi]

@@oponentgull186others4he should have gotten off sig, he complains widow is farming but takes too long to get off sig to contest her

[@camerondean5087]

While I do agree that the dps sold very hard I would like to see another one of these but instead of just focusing on what people do wrong also counting what that did do right and arguably more importantly what they could have done right. We can all recognize the mistakes missed but I personally feel like opportunities missed can decide the outcome of games much more.

[@Lunasinclair92]

One thing I really dislike about Havana is that people don't know how to properly position on this map. Most of the time the attacking team can just walk the payload uncontested because people don't understand chokes.

[@lilm0nix3]

there's legit no doing anything about widow. either you ignore her yourself and let the rest of your team get picked off, or go and deal with her yourself and your team dies as soon as you stop holding their hand.

[@Freaky..]

If I ever see a video essay about how I sold in a match I would actually cry

[@yorutashukini]

i thought everyone threw because they installed overwatch

[@GodlyDiamonds]

*FACT*

[@therebelfrogy9287]

Indeed

[@mrhalp2073]

Great video, but I disagree with two of the assessments. At 5:23, Bastion was trying to take the initiative, but you drew all the attention from both healers. Bastion took damage during the attack, and if he hadn't played passively, he would have been eliminated immediately. At 10:22, you played very deep in a less-than-ideal position. This gave D.Va the opportunity to execute a flank attack. When the enemy tank attacked from behind, you decided to push forward even further. Not only did this increase the risk of dying, but you also didn’t address what was happening behind you.

[@ever611]

The Bastion part made me laugh, what was he supposed to do there? The tank immediately dived before he could enter the fight lol

[@someguy4611]

Even though I do not play overwatch in the slightest, it’s fun to watch people. It’s a very watchable game.

[@TheWatchOverOW]

I agree. I think each game of Overwatch actually contains a pretty interesting story that I would like to tell. People aren't clicking on this video as often because I think it's hard to explain what it is but when you start watching, I think it's really entertaining.

[@cw8ho]

I know this video is just for fun but i think a lot of people noticed that you concluided that "yea i threw, everybody threw, but they threw more than me". And really when we watch your plays, you made a lot of tank mistakes that deserves a point. Like a lot of time you are fighting and ignoring discord orb and then you die, that's your fault bc as a tank, as soon as you get discorded you should take cover and wait, then you have like 8 seconds free when you can push without worring about zen, supports can't heal you enough to surpass discord. Crazy that we both play in plat. I'm not gonna do a full review bc you made clear that you aren't interested into ranking up and that's fine, but i tell you this bc sometimes we are kinda selfish and can't accept the full shame. Great video, earned a new sub.

[@Jagora_]

This just looks like a low elo team trying to replicate high ranked and not understanding how to play it. For example on the Orisa poke the whole point as tank is to not take resources from your dps, because you have Mercy/ Illari and double hitscan. All pressure is from your dps with a mercy pocket and Illari creating a killbox where the Orisa is setup, but all 4 were on the same angle and you on Orisa were trying to make plays when you dont have the resources to do so making your mercy leave the dps to try and help you. How it would be played in masters would be the widow rotating the windows, and pillars at the bottom, The Ashe with a mercy pocket controlling green building/ left side and Illari on the box near the Orisa with pylon set up on widow (or the ashe if the mercy is with the widow). It also never worked when you swapped comps because a similar thing was happening, like on doom you didnt play in the sightlines of your dps and even though he is a dive tank, you still need to make sure your team can apply pressure and give resources to you, because you just get discorded and fall over That is the most blatent mistake you made every time on defence, you get discorded and stay there just getting busted down for the whole fight not getting any value because your using all your cooldowns to survive the discord.

[@seuu.]

"this is a plat lobby" I SPILLED MY TEA WYM "plat" ???

[@faxmine]

This looks like my lobbies and I'm a silver.

[@Seven-vn6qi]

idk that checks out i think

[@annabelle629]

you feed a lot of damage

[@rage5239]

now this is interesting overwatch content keep up bro

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Will do!

[@agroteraaaa]

just re: all the comments saying OP is biased; i think this kind of self-examination is very prone to bias. you typically have an idea of your internal logic, whereas with other people, you can only guess. that's not to say that OP's team wasn't making bad plays, just to say why i think a third-party looking at a replay/VOD is more effective. i still liked the video overall!

[@saiko5996]

thats why you over-criticise yourself when you vod review. especially in a situation like this, your bad actions should be weighed a lot more heavily than others'

[@ccsam1516]

2:12 you go in way too deep. You should've used your cooldowns to push sigma away from the corner he was positioned at. Take control of that corner and push him in front of the garage door by using javelin, spear spin or both before hunkering down right in front of cart. You went in into a 1v4 while the Sig and his shield completely blocked you off. That is entirely on you that fight. You could have died doing what I explained right then, but if you really took control over the Sig and pushed him out of the way to give your teammates room to support you, then you would have done what you could in this fight to win it and wouldn't get a point. Unfortunately, you completely fumbled in by running in and going after squishies straight into their strong defensive position whilst your team couldn't support you due to you ignoring the enemy tank who was in a perfect position to deny Illiary to follow you and support you. I was only listening to the video up to that point, but after hearing you describe the fight, I couldn't imagine that you played it all that well. Now I took a look and saw that this was entirely your fault for going in in such a manner and expecting anything different to happen. I'm not going to blindly listen to you talking about the game and trust your judgment after seeing this.

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Please don't watch my content. You have completely and utterly missed the point of this video. Thanks!

[@OfficialPanamaYoutubeChannel]

@@TheWatchOverOW You needed way more points. And this video is just blaming everyone else and not yourself.

[@lemon9974]

@@TheWatchOverOWdamn, it's the passive aggressive attitude for me dude 😂

[@imaseal]

@@TheWatchOverOWso you made a video blaming your teammates. But can’t take it when some criticizes your gameplay? The irony is insane

[@dinguspingus8248]

2:39 you should’ve gotten a point for going in alone

[@skellyjohn6917]

He had to touch point

[@Seven-vn6qi]

@@skellyjohn6917no he didnt, he fed for no reason. if he backed off they would have regrouped

[@1l_Alex]

You are just as bad as your team mates lol, you were harsh on them and not yourself

[@Venant91182]

Enemy tank being 37-1 would suggest a tank gap

[@jsrhedgehog9981]

Sure... but there's also a difference between Tank diff and a team not enabling their tank/taking space that the tank creates

[@shesholdingcorn]

​@@jsrhedgehog9981 so true

[@honeycrispsnail4032]

@@jsrhedgehog9981 he didn’t create any space, like 50% of this video is backing up while being critical health on orisa and standing in front of 5 enemies on doomfist. and that’s awful because 50% of this video is on defense…

[@pegaducktopus5878]

found the Ashe

[@Luci-pz8xx]

The entire premise is flawed when you're looking at it from a plat perspective. You picking Doomfist against a Sigma/ Zen should be worth 10 points by itself.

[@sirduckknight7404]

Dude you were a horrible tank. You left your team open so many times.

[@BigPro1123]

When you said it was the worst match ever on this map I thought of my match where the other team only pushed the point to here 1:33

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Oh no I'm giving you PTSD flashbacks!

[@BigPro1123]

@@TheWatchOverOWI still have the code for it as it was only last week of you want to see what happens in the placement matches. (This is my second time playing comp in OW2 since season 1)

[@fathersun5765]

This is a perfect representation of what an average ranked game looks like below Diamond. And what 80% of quickplay games feels like

[@absoluteunit582]

You play 2-6 in first round and make long ass vid about your teammates' poor performance. GJ king, keep it up

[@whalewolf7477]

He made great points and all you can think about is because he made a video about this he is automatically the worst player and threw and that hes the problem. Bro literally pointed out everything. You want such vanilla content. You prolly watch no commentary bastion gameplays

[@absoluteunit582]

@whalewolf7477 i watch only top 500 hitscan gameplay. Everyone absolutely must focus on thing they can control - their gameplay! How are you supposed to become better if you only count your teammates missteps? Who knows why are your teammates are playing like this, maybe they are rusty or distracted by something more important than the game. 6 deaths is an atrocious amount especially for a tank. A chance to win after being steamrolled in the first round is below 30%.

[@epyons8411]

⁠@@absoluteunit582^^^^^^^^ this is the best comment I’ve read so far in these comments. PLEASE FOCUS ON YOURSELF FIRST

[@flxckos]

@@whalewolf7477He didn’t point out everything he pointed out things low rank players think matter lmao. He never comments on his presence as a tank

[@sea509]

Many people have already said it but this game is also completely your fault, you are constantly pulling the “tbf I made a small mistake” card when really youve been ignoring your large mistakes 1. You seem to have no regard to when you are discorded and rush regardless of the fact that when you are discorded not even both of your healers would be able to save you 2. You are not “making space” if the enemy tank is literally rushing your team. Look at that sigma play on stairs for example, the dva is literally on your team, you are not making any space. 3. You have no regard for peeling at all, if dva is rushing your teammates so easily then you need to do something about it.

[@carlyfrombly5370]

These kind of videos make me feel less bad when I constantly make mistakes all game

[@TheWatchOverOW]

True! If we all looked at our games we'd see we're all making a ton of mistakes lol game is hard

[@arxamis_]

Honestly, the Doom on first round was kinda a bad decision, I believe a shield would have been better!

[@igeomagician]

I genuinley feel like every egregious illari pylon placement should be a point. Very easy to put them in half decent spots.

[@miikkamk3149]

7:26 the face of ball juggling when they are hitting with perfect geometry

[@ApeEscapeLover]

How bad did this guy flame you that you decided to make a whole video explaining how bad he sucks? Also why bother with the stats if you analyze every fight and point out every mistake? It also didn't help that some of the heroes chosen by your whole team had some anti-synergy going on.

[@bofinq4839]

Swapping to doomfist instead of zarya was a counterwatch fumble on your end

[@Blacksatanangel]

i think you need to give youre self an extra point you made a bad decision ad you saved it so so you didnt instantly feel tha consequences but later you're going to lose becouse you think you are mad a good decision when you jud made a neutral decision

[@yoav1847]

this was honestly a refreshing ow video. a new idea, actually a fun watch. its nice that youre not t500 and everyone plays near perfect. would be nice if you could do one of these where the game was a little closer (this was a little bit of a steam roll)

[@lukeg503]

8:40 is just ashe being bad, ana nading hog is game changer.

[@andrewkeith80]

Your DPS are trying their best but are outclassed because the matchmaker boosts them to gain engagement. The issue is that the matchmaker tries to enforce a win rate, rather than just match based on skill and ping. If the matchmaker matched based on skill, the queue times will be longer.

[@xdtyfails6497]

people call me crazy for knowing this btw. it’s pretty obvious that when the game wants you to win it’ll do everything in it’s power to force it until it’s time for loser’s queue again. and when the winner’s and loser’s queue bs ends it’s back to regular w/w/l/w/l/l matchmaking

[@lawro2876]

This exactly. The ELO matchmaking is vastly different from the old days' OW1 MMR mechanics. To rank up, even if you're incredibly good, you still need to sift through hundreds of games with a 55%-65% average winrate most of the time to rank up (unless you're actually T500 or pro or hacking then maybe you can stomp every game). Even the game balancing downplays individual carry potential like the 200 -> 250 health changes increasing TTK.

[@Tubs2]

those illari pillons are actually the worst stops I could come up with it hurts to see

[@KunaiCat]

Video title is me every time I'm playing anything but healer

[@dharakcolossus981]

I would use a slightly more complex points system to gauge who threw: +2 if you die early or waste an ult +1 if you were out-of-position, spend a moderate amount of time not generating value (can get more than 1 point for this in a single fight) or do a play that SHOULD'VE gotten you killed

[@kanekianti-sora1666]

My one question is: Where any of your team in Voice chat? Because from my experience XD when no one is talking or communicating, the game turns into a Physics class where you have to read all 9 players thoughts and plays making it a nightmare in competitive team games

[@notsosaltygator]

Illari probably just dcing badly at 2:56

[@THE_INFECTED]

DPS was bad but I think this wasn’t all their fault, even if they changed to anything they would have died due to the supports only looking at you for the attack, (they did bad plays and got one shot by widow but when that wasn’t happening it didn’t look like they were getting healed much by the Moira while kiri had to stick to you even though it had to be the opposite. Defense, that illari has to play illari in QP before trying it in comp 😂 While I think as a DVA you also should mark the widow as soon as you see her so that the dos can know where she is to not get picked

[@Bad3abdul]

i think that kiri made the right play tbh keeping him up helped i think the moira shouldv'e identified that and helped the others

[@THE_INFECTED]

@ yep but it was Moira’s fault Kiri had to heal bot tank

[@dread3165]

im a dps main and this is 100% on the dps theres a lof times the dps should’ve focused/pushed with tank but stood still

[@THE_INFECTED]

I play all three and I agree and disagree, one the dps were getting diffed quite a lot of the time however with Kiriko needing to stick to tank and Moira needing to heal the dps there is a problem that forms because of how the team is spread out, you can’t expect a Moira to go heal a hitscan in the back and another dps in the front The dps that was not Ashe kept swapping and none of them worked because of it. Now if you look at the scoreboard Kiri going 700dmg is quite bad even if the stats for healing are good heal boting was just a bad idea especially when Kiriko could actually go kill a widow easily. But yes they got hella diffed as at second point. If I were dps I would have gone Genji to go for widow or if I were healer I would swap Juno instead of Kiri to give that tank some speed and better heal bot when low and aggressive dmg dealer. Especially cause Kiri was kinda mid until the recent patch where Mauga was buffed. Tank was not too bad in this but I think what could have helped find the widow so the dps could dive her or not get killed by her. But yes I agree with the dps diff but I think the supports were a bit too panicked the whole time. Oh and they couldn’t really push with the tank cause that would just give the widow free space to go on a kill spree. This is why Ashe had to try and keep an eye on her but obviously when it’s widow vs ash, 90% of the time Widow wins so if the tank kept an eye and pinged cause they can be in the front lines there was a chance for the Ashe to make sure she doesn’t get spotted first

[@voxsq]

haven't even watched but it is not that serious my guy

[@spectator6233]

The supports should get a point each for the team comp in defense, mercy illiari is a terrible combination

[@Bad3abdul]

very true

[@therebelfrogy9287]

Mercy Illari is the best combo for any mid to long range dps players but this Illari can't hit for sh*t and her pylon placing is somewhere between wood and bronze 5😂. The dps didn't competent enough to deal any significant influence so Mercy is useless Great game go next

[@apple-de8tx]

Mercy mains who play only mercy moira are inevitable in plat

[@blue_692]

So is orisa in havana???

[@immortaldev1489]

@@therebelfrogy9287 a mercy illari backline literally implodes if a coordinated dive/rush happens. What are they gonna do, sleep the enemy? lamp themselves? suzu themselves? whipshot to deny the dive and build inspire? speed ring/speed amp entire team to kite the push? they can't do any of that, mercy just sucks and illari doesn't output enough pressure for it to workout.

[@biglittlegiraffe]

These videos are very funny and well done. They really are informative (despite being for fun). I really did like this video!

[@vietnamgamer9490]

I really like this in depth analysis with replay commentary. Anyone know other good channels I can find that do it as well?

[@NotRealyInterested]

moira ulting without ball deserved another point

[@Bad3abdul]

i think you can let that one slide tbf not a lot of people know that

[@therealw04]

​@@Bad3abdulwhat is the Moira ult ball tech?

[@Bad3abdul]

@therealw04 you throw a ball before you ult basically

[@ordinarylittlebastard3248]

Moira ulting with almost no hp in the middle of the enemy team with like no hp deserves two points

[@joaquinleyva6869]

@@therealw04it’s not a tech. It’s literally just using an orb before you start coalescence

[@BreadOW]

i feel like itd be interesting getting someone to review you in this game

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Maybe, but I just don't care about getting better at Overwatch. I dont have the time.

[@BreadOW]

@@TheWatchOverOW sounds hypocritical when u make a whole vid analysing ur teammates for losing ur own game tho

[@Manicboy8]

​@BreadOW except he states in the video multiple times this is for fun, he isnt actually blaming people, nothing is hypocritical abput this

[@BreadOW]

@@Manicboy8 i just think itd be worth have a spectator's opinion, since i think most of us would think we're playing properly

[@Bad3abdul]

@@BreadOW well he identified a lot of his bad plays sooo I'd like you to timestamp a bad play he made and didn't point out

[@scumknight6074]

People holding ult for no reason, Reaper swaps for no reason even though he could’ve played with Ashe to pressure Widow alone, bad positioning, having a Moira is hinderance to your team, Orisa into a poke comp, poke DPS are losing to 1 Widow.

[@Bad3abdul]

orisa isn't that bad into poke she can poke herself as well

[@SecureBirch410]

this is plat, having moira is not a hinderance. In masters+? yes. You're saying that out of principle alone as if you are a high rank player but you probably don't even understand why that would be. And again this is plat, i wouldn't worry too much about composition, people stressing about that kind of thing in platinum are just going to stress themselves out, stress the team out and ruin their own morale thinking the game is unwinnable before it even starts. Even in top 500 you can win with unconventional comps, that kind of thing is not particularly important unless you're actually co-ordinated.

[@tagthatangryguy6798]

Why does he keep saying “Iliari” bruh😭🙏

[@cartyramsay5845]

I actually really liked this type of content, helps me to look for things not to do

[@yourlocalbryan6079]

Being honest, I thought that Ashe was me. Then I heard this was competitive.

[@jerod256]

It's the tanks job to ping the widow. If your widow was unaware of the location of the enemy widow, that's also on you because you're the only one who can't be one shot. Also your job to stuff the enemy into corners, so its actually a point against you that your reaper dies on first point attack. It's your job to set him up.

[@Bad3abdul]

set him up how if i may ask setting up the reaper would be leaving your support LOS in that situation yes he couldv'e helped but the risk was too high although he helped with shield

[@anarchistmaverick9507]

You are using that ow1 mentality, in ow2 tank’s main responsibility is to stay alive and force enemy cooldowns. Setting up and positioning is completely up to the dps and supports because they are not something you will need to worry about.

[@kisskkiiss]

I just know the enemy team had like 35 eliminations

[@Az00069]

I love content like this! Subbed!

[@skykreepers]

I love how this was formatted; I did something similar for one of my terribly played games. I'd love to see your opinions on it, even though it's a quickplay match. 57FCCA is the code, it was truly so painful to play through (I was the Rammatra most of the game)

[@bigmike7385]

You had me going till you swapped to DF and I realized you’re the problem 😂

[@overratedfool6900]

For a lot of this video, I was expecting it to be about proving a point that the guy with terrible stats wasn't actually the one that threw. I think it's a shame that you didn't go down that route, but this was still a really interesting concept and watch. Your Moira and Ashe looked like they belong in bronze lobbies, but we all get those team mates sometimes.

[@Mrtn.97]

you sold 70% of the fights coz of ur horrid positioning and cd management lad. most plat video i have ever seen

[@helltopey]

this is great content keep it up!

[@enricoairesgomez2769]

Yes massive dps diff but you threw. You keep advancing with teammates dead is crazy you don’t even mention it. 10:20 you said it yourself both your dps died. Why would push the most contested position in this point. Your kiri was actually really decent.

[@NeonTiger229]

New fear unlocked

[@maandelbrot]

more of this please! i clicked on this out of curiosity and it was really fun to watch keep it up

[@GenuineRage]

5:18 bro you didn't gain any space lol YOU ARE GETTING PUSHED WAY BY A SIG AND A ZEN HAHAHAHA

[@flxckos]

You played orisa and did nothing then switched doom into sigma Im watching the first round But this is all your fault so far.

[@_Maio_]

Had this game with this Hanzo/Widow and Mercy duo. My three stack were the other two people on my team. I'd just like to see if I was actually throwing in this game. I know I wasn't playing the best, but I feel like I couldn't have done more with the team comp we were running. It's a short game too, they just started throwing and didn't even come out the second round. NYKXGC

[@JesManVP]

It was a team diff

[@swimm3rcity]

I subbed bc i heard runescape music while u asked no lie. Love the video dawg.

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Yo let's go! I actually just started a osrs channel

[@sirduckknight7404]

Cool I made it on a video finally!!

[@wusaint]

Immediately groaned when I saw the support comp. But hey we make due with what we have. Then once the round started I said to myself, "This has to be Plat." 😂Oh boy was I right. See Plat is this special place where you have a butt load of people that climbed there because their mechanical ability allowed them to act like complete tools and get away with it Bronze-Gold. I swear I see people in Plat make more questionable decisions than any other rank. This match shows that.

[@DarkCassoulet]

Imagine being so annoying that because you lost a game, you make a 17 minutes video of you crying, and blaming anyone except yourself. Some people do have too much free time.

[@otto7588]

Its just a video bro

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Bro has never had fun in his life

[@LgcyOW]

Damn I be seeing this and going through this on a daily haha ,if only more people in team chat

[@diogosousa7698]

5:24 Well with ilari + mercy a bastion cannot live especially with a enemy zen and a signa to absorve his damage and mercy was around the clock after you to heal so the bastion only had illari to heal he would have died fast