Everything Wrong With Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire in 27 Minutes or Less

[@Gldtr39]

Kong using suko as nunchucks is the best thing about this movie 😂

[@DarthSnugglePuss]

That one is tied with Godzilla supplexing Kong for me.

[@Zongleflork]

Yep it’s definitely the most memorable

[@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb]

Oh, and don’t forget Godzilla going all John Cena on Kong in Egypt by suplexing him.

[@Gldtr39]

@@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb can’t forget that either. Honorable mention: pocket sand

[@BassLineProductionsI]

​@@Gldtr39 nah pocket sand ftw, I actually said that one aloud when it happened!

[@rexlumontad5644]

Godzilla: *"PREPARE FOR TROUBLE!"* King Kong: *"AND MAKE IT DOUBLE!"*

[@dellytancyl524]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I could absolutely hear Team rocket.

[@air03man]

Baby Kong "Meowth That's right!" oh crap now you got me doing it!

[@mrwerewolfvampire]

​@@air03man replace Meowth with Mothra and you've got it.

[@air03man]

@@mrwerewolfvampire Meowth's part of team rocket Bro!

[@MogtheMad0422]

Mothra: MEOWTHRA THAT'S RIGHT!

[@touremuhammad5983]

5:22 “I… have come… to receive… DENTAL CAAAAAARRRRRRREEE!!!!” 😂😂

[@thatryanguy]

It's like the joke they made in the video!

[@SageWon-1aussie]

I could imagine hearing Jeremy say that in the cinema, and improving the movie by 1000%.

[@kahnfatman]

Did Kong vote for Obama -- (or FJB) to get ObamaCare?!

[@phoenixdzk]

The extra 30000 sins for the product placement had me chortling

[@jeredwenderoth1072]

I had 100% the some lol reaction to that shot. So embarrassing!

[@menzoom]

Ahhh, but was it anger, or did they do a product placement of their own with adding the number of sins that equals the MSRP of the vehicle? Did they get their own VW's for that bit?

[@menzoom]

@TheWiseWaddleD 🤣

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

Of course, it does make the whole sins system utterly meaningless.

[@CinemaSins]

@@menzoom You listening VW? You owe us cars now. The comment section said so.

[@fredsalter1915]

Kong's yellow power gauntlet should have "Caterpillar" written on it

[@Zyroes]

Now _that_ would have been good product placement!

[@GeryonM]

But they wouldn't pony up the dough.

[@SteampunkHorse]

Or “CAT”

[@rexlumontad5644]

SSJ Rose Godzilla: "You see, you're not dealing with the average Godzilla anymore." Shimo: "I feel like I've been here before. Have we been here before?"

[@kalel2780]

SSJ Rose Godzilla: I have finally become a Super Titan! Shimo: OMG

[@mattdragon333]

I wish they got Bruning godzilla back, the coolest

[@Freirelucass1]

"If he's a Super Duper Kaiju, then i'm gonna become a Super Dee Duper Kaiju!"

[@5ftOfRage]

They confirmed that form of Godzilla it's just temporary and it's compared to Goku's Kaioken

[@Me0wish]

@@5ftOfRage Kaio-what?

[@samuellee257]

Seeing 30000 extra sins at 3:53 for the VW product is a true cinemasins moment!

[@aquila4142]

Even better, it wasn't 30,000, it was 39,735, the exact price of the VW being product-placed.

[@josephgavlek3419]

@@aquila4142 Plus whatever the count was originally I add 100 sins to my comment just on the fact that you already knew that fact already 😁😁

[@frdyfzbrvids1896]

Good to see an Elden Ring Reference in a CinemaSins video... 13:50 Astel, Naturalborne of the Void got me 😂😂😂

[@thalastianjorus]

I'm sorry, but I admittedly absolutely love the idea of Godzilla turning the Colosseum into his "house." Only because it makes Godzilla seem as if it has the personality of a cat.

[@Jesse-df9fz]

100% it was so funny and cute. I like that the monster verse really gives them personalities and quirks

[@danilutka]

I saw a post that the person who designed that scene was in fact inspired by the way his own cat was curled up in it's bed. It's my favorite part of the movie.

[@tullimonstrum52]

​@@danilutkayeah, it was based off director Adam Wingard's cat, mischief. The in-universe reason is that the architecture of the colloseum reminds godzilla of his ancient underwater temple people built him that was destroyed in Godzilla king of the monstersa

[@ClanImprobable]

I would watch an entire movie of cat Godzilla.

[@Zeraora_Lightnin]

A theory is because it looked like his cave he thinks it's his house

[@golinvox15]

Did anyone else just hear Kratos going "boy" every scene of kong and the little baby together

[@dubbingsync]

I definitely did in the scene where they’re eating together.

[@CrimsonCharan]

He even has an axe that glows blue!

[@SteampunkHorse]

YES

[@Memelord2020]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time a monster roars

[@DrKuryakin]

a better one would be everytime there s a pastel colour on the screen (i refuse to be responsible for any alcohol poisoning that might occur)

[@mjps1212]

@@DrKuryakinor take a shot every time a human character explains what’s going on just so the viewers can understand it

[@thePFG13]

"They look like big, good, strong hands don't they?" Made me spit out my drink! Lol

[@Yurinkin]

😂😅😊

[@awholelotofgeek]

I think I almost died of laughter at the ad car sin. 😂

[@Lane.Kiffin]

bruhh 😂😂😂

[@MrThecrazyzombie]

Deserved. That shot took me out of the movie so much

[@xaviereaster1198]

😂😂😂

[@daynekayle5719]

Worth 30k😂

[@Flash-FireCC]

I can't lie, it deserved the sins. It was the most car commercial I've ever seen in a movie.

[@jeremiah1293]

I love that the bonus round basically just showed the plot of the movie

[@KittMouri]

I had looked away from the screen for a few minutes and when I looked back, the counter was over 30,000! I had to run back to see what was the capital sin and nearly choked on my laughter! 😂😂

[@SigmentKurosai]

"The crowd is dead" had me laughing way too hard.

[@Prettorian]

27:43 that cute Mothra "roar" 😂

[@CinemaSins]

Totally Ad-rawr-able.

[@gypsyjackson]

Loved it! And on repeated listening the Scar King’s roar sounded like he’d inhaled a helicopter.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Imagine a crossover between Godzilla and Pacific Rim where the Jaegers have an epic team up with the King of Monsters to kick butt of the Blue Kaiju invading from another world.

[@rexysgamingbro]

I’m pretty sure Godzilla would deal with both parties.

[@outrider425]

meh Godzilla would just spawn camp those Kaijus

[@Arcanis_07]

It’d be great until they cut from the action to show the reactions from the humans for the entire fight instead of actually showing the fight.

[@26th_Primarch]

If you paid closer attention, you'd have noticed that the arm schematics for the Beast Glove Kong got was actually Gypsy Danger's arm.

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

That would be nice.

[@michaelfetter4541]

That little Mothra roar in the bonus round had me dying. Hahahaha.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Skar King just wanted to go for a walk and ask the humans if their health plans were apparently great.

[@thecrimsondragonslayer6533]

Wonder if he planned on meeting the Dandy Man

[@white.rabbit1871]

Right? Who doesn't like enthusiastic walks through the woods?

[@olleselin]

🙉🙉🙉🙉🙉

[@KaijuRails54_Official]

As long as he doesn’t go to America he should find good results

[@Dragginaxe]

"Why does this place look like I'm about to fight Astel, Naturalborn of the Void?" Was not expecting an Elden Ring reference but it made me smile.

[@zeobide]

Same here. Completely took me out. Hope hes knee deep in the DLC now.

[@flyonthewall2333]

Im so happy you noticed that random ad placement. That had me laughing

[@subaruundertale5228]

"Godzilla Twitter Kong"

[@qarabagh8756]

How did you not remove all sins for kong using suko as a weapon

[@tmac731]

Because he sucks

[@how8132]

"Holy testicle Tuesday!" I love Ace, that's exactly what I thought when I saw Dan😆

[@JasonScotchmer]

Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end: 1 (28:25): The Sixth Sense (Hollywood Pictures, 1999) 2 (28:30): Sneakers (Universal Pictures, 1992) 3 (28:38): Contact (Warner Bros., 1997) 4 (28:41): 2001: A Space Odyssey (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, 1968) 5 (28:47): Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (20th Century Studios, 2014) 6 (28:54): Tommy Boy (Paramount Pictures, 1995) 7 (28:59): Finding Nemo (Walt Disney Pictures, 2003) 8 (29:08): Star Trek, "Amok Time" (season 2, episode 1; NBC, 15th September 1967) 9 (29:17): The Wizard of Oz (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, 1939) 10 (29:21): The Simpsons, "Bart the General" (season 1, episode 5; Fox, 4th February 1990) 11 (29:24): Batman & Robin (Warner Bros., 1997) 12 (29:32): Pulp Fiction (Miramax, 1994) 13 (29:36): E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (Universal Pictures, 1982) 14 (29:39): The Ren & Stimpy Show, "Stimpy's Big Day" (season 1, episode 1; Nickelodeon, 11th August 1991) 15 (29:43): The NeverEnding Story (Warner Bros., 1984) 16 (29:50): The Simpsons, "The Springfield Files" (season 8, episode 10; Fox, 12th January 1997)

[@JasonScotchmer]

Finally, CinemaSins made this comment open to everyone! Now, the same please be done for your videos about The Running Man, Kung Fu Panda 4, The Hurricane Heist and everyone of your videos I have left comments on?

[@Voidmercenary]

3:56 I looked away and zoned out for *2 SECONDS*

[@SteampunkHorse]

Real

[@yungbala3031]

Unpopular opinion: Godzilla did not need help frfr

[@Manboy_692]

I agreed

[@tmac731]

He actually did. Scar was controlling Shimo who Is 1/3 larger than him and stronger. Godzilla can’t fight her try to destroy the Crystal and fight off scar

[@MrAce2000]

Cap Godzilla had it n the bag​@@tmac731

[@jka1277]

Extra: Iwi Tribe, MMM YES TRIBE TRIBE (the word iwi means tribe in a few polynesian languages )

[@datsapaddlin]

The Humans in these movies could get stepped on by Kong or Godzilla and no one would care 😂

[@chasehedges6775]

Kaylee Hottle as Jia is the only good/likeable human character and actress and I agree

[@chasehedges6775]

The actors do their best but the writing sucks.

[@Bodharas]

Have to get Titan insurance.

[@exodiaexodus]

CINEMASINS CARES motha*****s

[@Wright805]

FALSE! I absolutely love Jia. I mainly watched this movie for her.

[@ryanmason2502]

Bio-augments for monsters, sure! Special hearing aid for the deaf? Nah. Let's just have everyone repeat the dialogue twice.

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

Just because you can make an armor it doesn't mean you can cure deafness.

[@biomike01]

@@matteomastrodomenico1231not like Motzart found a way to keep making music after he went deaf

[@kinggeorge90]

@@biomike01 Beethoven went deaf. Not Mozart.

[@pennywaldrip3774]

The best part of this movie is the "Godzilla is a cat and the coliseum is a cat bed."

[@ClanImprobable]

Agreed.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Definitely not the best part but it is adorable

[@xxtigersharkxx0203]

Been waiting for this for a long time.

[@LegionIscariot]

As a Godzilla fan im glad we live in a time where we can have Godzilla movies like Shin and Minus One. But also King of the Monsters and G X Kong.

[@ascensionindustries9631]

It is a great time for Godzilla fans. Its the most fun one can have at the movies now.

[@jasonblalock4429]

Yeah, exactly. Best of both worlds.

[@jailcatjones3250]

As a lifelong fan myself I agree

[@Xenosaurian]

Nope, we need to ERASE the Monsterverse, that shit should never exist!

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

​@@Xenosaurian Dude, you've been saying this under every comment section, just let it go.

[@Gamer3427]

13:50 I certainly applaud the Elden Ring reference here, but Xenojiiva would have worked as well, and feels more fitting considering the movie is about giant monsters. **Ding**

[@slayercat456]

This.

[@cameronjr8]

10:20 Suko looks cute. All we need is Little Godzilla and we have the duo of mini Kaijus.

[@Ahsan_31]

there is Doug in the movie

[@Jeffmetal42]

Please don't inspire anyone to bring back Godzooky. We have moved on as a society and are better for it.

[@maximusmeridus4607]

He doesn't look cute he looks ugly

[@simmy0019]

@@Jeffmetal42 what about Minilla then?

[@Streetcleanergaming]

​@simmy0019 if somebody could lobby for Minilla being brought into the modern day and get results I would singlehandedly fund the movie

[@PilotPhteven]

this movie is 10 people standing in front of a green screen, looking up, expositioning on what the director said the cgi monsters would be doing for 2 hrs...

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

They mostly used sets though

[@evilzombie]

Am i the only one who actually loved this movie as the giant kaiju brawler it is? Loved the video, great job as always!

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

Nah, plenty of people did

[@strikerfc-gv7pc]

@@matteomastrodomenico1231 wayy to many actually

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

@@strikerfc-gv7pc What does that even mean?

[@btipton6899]

This movie sucks. G fan since '73.

[@SandraPhillips-cb5og]

You've got a knack for this, loving your content!

[@ashinwill]

Are we not gonna talk about the Kong sized elephant in the room? "Baby Kong" is roughly the same size as Kong was in Skull Island, but has proportionally giant baby features.

[@crumblyburgers]

The tiny mothra roar was my favorite part by far.

[@keltikglider9188]

“I have come to receive DENTAL CARE!!” Got me rolling 😂😂😂

[@michaelotero]

Im a simple male specimen i see a cinema sins notification. I click. I watch

[@geardog24]

“If this guy isn’t voiced by Jeremy Irons, I will be terribly disappointed.” *_Be prepared_* to be disappointed.

[@markrlondon]

I’ll laughed so hard when listening to him singing “Message in a Bottle”, that I regurgitated my whole lunch.

[@PhinnyVFX]

FINALLY, ON A 10 HOUR RIDE HOME TOO.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Okay...so what are you going to do with the other 9.5hrs?

[@PhinnyVFX]

@@Blasted2Oblivion fuck…

[@microbuilder]

@@PhinnyVFX Thats a good way to pass the time...depending on who your co-driver is...

[@PhinnyVFX]

@@Blasted2Oblivion ig im binge watching cinema sins videos

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

@@PhinnyVFX That works.

[@chasetemple1518]

"Godzilla Twitter Kong", like "Spy Twitter Family" or "Hunter Twitter Hunter".

[@gid519]

I remember when this channel used to do this in 4-10 min. Now each one is an anime episode.

[@jamesliggins891]

goes better with my meals!

[@gid519]

@@jamesliggins891 Ya got a point der. ngl.

[@BwalyaHiggins-es3cw]

Shows how the movies are getting worse

[@GoldSayaProductions]

​@@BwalyaHiggins-es3cwLonger engagement is better for algorithm

[@nonexistant4260]

11:30 It's implied that Godzilla had to charge with other power sources before confronting Tiamat because she was so difficult to fight. Basically, he had to level up for a boss battle before unlocking an Ult.

[@Zyroes]

Unfortunately, he overleveled. Which, while smart and safe, led to a less interesting viewing experience.

[@jakushkadarkstalker6278]

Even if he went in without being powered up I wouldn't have felt any tension in the confrontation at all. Godzilla is King of the Monsters now, the alpha of all kaiju. The only ones Godzilla was challenged by was Kong and King Ghidorah. Tiamat was never a threat to him.

[@Mister_Cool]

Aww, they didn't show the part where King Kong knocked Godzilla out. That was pretty funny. King Kong really didn't want to do it to him but knew he had to give Godzilla that five-knuckle chill pill. HAHA

[@HazmatValdez]

Aww ikr he also didn't show the part we're godzilla was about to kill kong😢

[@Thefrayenters]

16:31 😂 - Like how!?

[@0wonder]

She was already down there

[@SageWon-1aussie]

​@@0wonderThe title of my... sex tape?

[@premiumheadpats4150]

Christ, this one has A LOT of roars in it.

[@justsomeguy9555]

😂😂 "Ok, you're just gonna walk away without explaining anything further? That's cool. That's cool." - LOVE THIS!!! 90% of cinematic misunderstanding scenes rely on someone walking away from obvious follow-up questions, comments, or declarations. Real life doesn't cut to commercials or have scene-breaks... right?

[@andrewg7576]

10:23 - Using finger-biter as a weapon needs to REMOVE a sin, not add one.

[@aidanosaurusrex1120]

Godzilla not in the thumbnail? [phone] sins

[@dubal5005]

Jokes aside, Godzilla using the coliseum as a "bed" makes more sense than you think. He has been around long enough, destroying this and that without care, but keep in mind a dangerous creature doesnt live without thought. Sum it up, buddy laying his head like a baby in the womb ready for the fade. Equivalent to when Kong homed a cave

[@JackHobson]

You forgot to do the other 2024 movie that has the word “Empire” in it.

[@moshuhnanren5845]

3:49 I was about to press skip thinking it was an ad 😂

[@DailyBasicG]

Imagine the world governments just coming out one day with "Giant Monsters and Hollow earth is real" and everybody is just like "oh, ok"

[@solvseus]

Like it would even faze most of us these days. A presidential candidate was shot at, and a few days later no one seemed to care anymore, even him.

[@MinMin4theWinWin]

Mothras roar being counted caught me off so off-guard because that was a soft gentle sound compared to the rest xD

[@DevilFan669]

I saw this movie on my birthday back in April 18 and I really did loved this film and I saw it in 3D with my mom and my nephew and we had a good time watching it too and it was so epic and amazing in 3D too CinemaSins bro 😎 and glad to own it on 4K

[@strikerfc-gv7pc]

I wish I could’ve enjoyed it

[@strikerfc-gv7pc]

I wish I could’ve enjoyed it

[@yianmartinez7799]

If it weren’t for the exposition cave, I firmly believe this movie would have more roars than lines of dialogue.

[@Daniel-oy6xq]

That mention of Astel gave me PTSD...

[@EdHadder]

I Love CinemaSins Videos 💖

[@PR1ME98]

22:29 as someone who literally studies audio engineering…THANK YOU!!!!! By the time that sound would’ve hit Godzilla, it would be so dissipated that he would’ve thought that was a minor echo from the environment or something. I told my friends this and they looked at me like i was some weirdo. I KNOW MY SHIT!!!!!!

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

Except that Godzilla DOES sense other monsters. Its an explicit power he has so that doesn't mean shit.

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

I hope Kaylee Hottle makes more movies. She's great.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯. Definitely

[@TSM_Danny]

Haahhahahaha the Volkswagen production placement 😂😂

[@Kitishere12]

king dong measuring contest has me dead... lmfao now thats funny

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Using a child as a weapon non-metaphorically and the Donkey Kong references were the best.

[@derrickjonesii8463]

So I live in Nashville and went to Michigan State. The East Lansing comment makes me feel like we're best friends.

[@channelsofash]

At least the movie answered the question of where school cafeterias get all their frozen monkey meat.

[@samu166]

Anyone else want to say "I have come to receive dental care!" Before checking in at next appointment? No?! Just me...

[@NoirSkillz]

A truly amazing video that we needed

[@keantehardimon175]

I’m weak ASF😂😂😂Bruh said I just saw a carbonite monkey shatter into a million pieces. Give me a second to give af about who’s home is home😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m hollering rn

[@hailectric77310]

Putting this thirty seconds after the video released. I refuse to believe the sins for this can go above 100

[@Maswartz226]

And they added 30000 sins for product placement...

[@YummyCracker]

Now I’m no mathematician, but I think 40023 _might_ just be a little over 100…

[@BassLineProductionsI]

​@YummyCracker I'm no physician but you may be correct

[@roguishpaladin]

Found the Volkswagen marketing/product placement VP.

[@SageWon-1aussie]

4 minutes in. "Damn you! Damn you all to hell Volkswagen!"

[@zawarudo4007]

Astel reference is crazy. CinemaSins you my goat ❤

[@ZekeStaright]

The Mothra squeak Bonus was peak

[@luvvsushi6581]

Kong and Suko having a full on God of War adventure and Godzilla going on a rampage are my favorite scenes of the movie

[@chasehedges6775]

YEP💯

[@rileywatson1118]

"Kongs constantly searching for a family he'll never find" A few minutes later kongs using a child as a weapon

[@Kidkinsey]

13:51 elden ring reference!!!!! I didn't know you were in the soulsborne family

[@aliensomniac3842]

Giving the same number of sins as the price of the product placement is gold

[@ethandollarhide7943]

The monsters show more expression than the Humans in this movie do.

[@therisingsith2985]

I have never laughed so hard when I hear you screaming I have come to receive dental care😂

[@Darkmatter833]

That jump from 34 to 39000 sins is wild 😂😂

[@ItsZorroDood]

It's nonsense that Godzilla can climb into the Colosseum without is getting completely destroyed.

[@joshchavez8190]

Pretty sure the first Godzilla movie got a sin removed for the roar from Godzilla and this movie had a bonus round of sins for the roars

[@strikerfc-gv7pc]

Because they used it sparingly, this movie just spammed them

[@NATUREBOYP]

Ikr double standard BS

[@The-spider-fan]

Because it was an ACTUAL cool ass scene with no music to cover with his roar NOW they roar every 5 mins and it gets tiring somtimes

[@The-spider-fan]

Still atleast a sin off for SSJ godzilla's roar

[@annemariewindhorst6308]

I know there's supposed to be some sort of silly lore reason why Godzilla is now sleeping in the Colosseum, but I could care less. All I care is finding a 3D print large enough to make little colosseums for my geckos to nap in. Because there was nothing cuter to me than the giant radioactive lizard curled up and napping in there.

[@Hackstock_Playzz]

You have to do the sins - 39734 so you get a fair score. Just a reminder for me later, don’t mind me.

[@varlnova1103]

"I have come...... To recieve..... DENTAL CAAAARE" - Sin's Kong 2024

[@fregoso31rain]

4:37 had me wheezing idk why but I found it hilarious 20:32- 21:01 had me cracking up fr

[@Vahlee-A]

Sin 2 THANK YOU! I'm so SICK of slow-motion!

[@vashm87]

legit cackled at the astel sin, well played :D

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

The main reason Godzilla upgraded was to survive Shimo's ice attack. That's it, that's all it is about.

[@jedimasters1462]

You should have removed a sin for everyone else flaying around without gravity while Godzilla was like "Hell yeah!" I love that part.😂

[@simmy0019]

it's probably because he's the only one there who is used to swimming

[@riemaennchen]

Imagine being responsible for animating all the spit when the different Monsters roar.

[@chasehedges6775]

😂

[@grapeshot]

Yep I like this movie quite a bit straight popcorn entertainment .That didn't stop people from comparing it to Godzilla minus one a completely different animal considering it's about post war Japan.

[@metaloverlord7465]

There's always going to be two flavors of Godzilla. Godzilla as a serious no nonsense terrifying embodiment of nuclear annihilation, And Godzilla the giant lizard who can perform a flying drop kick completely parallel to the ground and does a little jumping victory dance after all is said and done.

[@jamesmitchell6925]

22:28 they would have “felt each other” at roughly the same time as hearing each other. The speed of sound in the air and vibrations in the ground are similar enough to be 700 mph and 3 hours between interactions from Gibraltar to the pyramids On a separate note, light (in a vacuum) and gravity travel at the same speed too. So if the sun suddenly disappeared, it would take 8 minutes for us to see it vanish and we would still be rotating around its position in space for that entire time without it being there. Then after 8 minutes we would stop going in a circle and continue in a straight line until experiencing the curvature of space from some other massive object… A girl can dream…

[@davidbegbie]

The fact the monsterverse movies keep getting thousands if not millions of sins leaves me wondering if this guy's a little biased. I mean, somehow Kung Fu Panda 4 got away with under 200... just saying

[@FazeChildKidnapper]

If you would have read the comics you would understand why Scylla did that. Sin 16 is your lack of context

[@OrinMcDonald]

I'm giving CinemaSins a sin for constantly referring to Shimo has a HE when Shimo is a girl. Yeah I know it's petty but it annoys me