Everything Wrong With GTA's Mercenaries DLC - GTA 5 Discussion №82

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First Video Detailing Removed Cars: • Removing Content Is No...
The Insane Scale Of GTA's Removed Cars: • The Insane Scale Of GT...
Mercenaries DLC Drip-Feed Cars: • GTA Mercenaries DLC Dr...
Mercenaries DLC Testing Video: • Fastest Mercenaries DL...
Mercenaries DLC Showcase: • Mercenaries DLC Showca...
HSW Off-Road Oversight: • Rockstar's Outstanding...
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Quick Note On Bugs/Annoyances
It seems like there's a new bug to report which I only became aware of after the video - reward cars don't spawn and so you simply don't get given the cars after the phone calls suggestion they should be available. Avoid finishing the relevant missions until this is fixed. This affects the Armored Paragon from Casino missions, Dave's Weevil from Cayo missions, and the Virtue from the most recent Last Dose missions. A bug also existed that spawned you with no weapons if you died during the Cayo Perico heist (forgot to include but has since been fixed) and the cooldown I mentioned for payphone hits used to work, but has also been "fixed" so you're stuck with the 48 minutes. No fun allowed.
Quick Note On Jobs
As I said at the start I oversimplified the issues relating to the creator for the sake of brevity - there are certainly more nuances to the fact that Rockstar have broken their own jobs (not just Stunt - Forest) and it has also been a recurring thing for updates over the years. Nevertheless the key takeaway from that part of the video, beyond the "extra" props being removed, is that a number of regular "legitimate" props have also been removed (or not remembered to be included in the new allow list) and this has broken many community tracks that haven't even used any of the arbitrarily disallowed props (such as the original versions of some community series jobs).
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Make Your Voices Heard (Cars)
1) Go here: www.rockstargames.com/gta-onl...
2) Log in via Social Club in the top right
3) Copy/Paste the following message and click "Submit": Please improve the browsing experience of in-game websites by adding an A-Z sorting option and most importantly adding back all the cars that were removed with the San Andreas Mercenaries update. Optionally also add the ability to sort by vehicle class.
Make Your Voices Heard (Jobs)
Mere hours after this video went live, Rockstar reverted the change they made to prop allow and block lists. I don't believe that timing is conincidence - you made your voices heard on this and it worked! Keep it up! Keep in mind though that this may be a temporary fix to restore tracks that were also broken despite only using "legitimate" props, and tracks with hidden props will be "re-broken" in future. Nevertheless for now blue fences have been reverted back to their original intended prop, with some added caveats that are explained here: i.gyazo.com/2e25ac8350aa7f821...
Make Your Voices Heard (Other)
- Add more to the above messages if you wish, for example how you feel about these issues.
- Retweet this tweet: / 1668627224889790465
- Tweet at them in general. By all means feel free to link this video to sum things up.
- Show your thoughts on the game by leaving a review that reflects your current feelings.
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00:00 - Intro
00:29 - Cars
04:39 - Jobs
10:21 - Bugs
12:39 - Annoyances
15:55 - Worst DLC Ever?
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[@broughy1322]

*Make Your Voices Heard (Cars)* 1) Go here: www.rockstargames.com/gta-online/feedback?step=98444462 2) Log in via Social Club in the top right 3) Copy/Paste the following message and click "Submit": Please improve the browsing experience of in-game websites by adding an A-Z sorting option and most importantly adding back all the cars that were removed with the San Andreas Mercenaries update. Optionally also add the ability to sort by vehicle class. *Make Your Voices Heard (Jobs)* Mere hours after this video went live, Rockstar reverted the change they made to prop allow and block lists. I don't believe that timing is conincidence - you made your voices heard on this and it worked! Keep it up! Keep in mind though that this may be a temporary fix to restore tracks that were also broken despite only using "legitimate" props, and tracks with hidden props will be "re-broken" in future. Nevertheless for now blue fences have been reverted back to their original intended prop, with some added caveats that are explained here: i.gyazo.com/2e25ac8350aa7f8218ee9303cef56151.png *Make Your Voices Heard (Other)* - Add more to the above messages if you wish, for example how you feel about these issues. - Retweet this tweet: twitter.com/broughy1322/status/1668627224889790465 - Tweet at them in general. By all means feel free to link this video to sum things up. - Show your thoughts on the game by leaving a review that reflects your current feelings. *Quick Note On Bugs/Annoyances* It seems like there's a new bug to report which I only became aware of after the video - reward cars don't spawn and so you simply don't get given the cars after the phone calls suggestion they should be available. Avoid finishing the relevant missions until this is fixed. This affects the Armored Paragon from Casino missions, Dave's Weevil from Cayo missions, and the Virtue from the most recent Last Dose missions. A bug also existed that spawned you with no weapons if you died during the Cayo Perico heist (forgot to include but has since been fixed) and the cooldown I mentioned for payphone hits used to work, but has also been "fixed" so you're stuck with the 48 minutes. No fun allowed. *Quick Note On Jobs* As I said at the start I oversimplified the issues relating to the creator for the sake of brevity - there are certainly more nuances to the fact that Rockstar have broken their own jobs (not just Stunt - Forest) and it has also been a recurring thing for updates over the years. Nevertheless the key takeaway from that part of the video, beyond the "extra" props being removed, is that a number of regular "legitimate" props have also been removed (or not remembered to be included in the new allow list) and this has broken many community tracks that haven't even used any of the arbitrarily disallowed props (such as the original versions of some community series jobs). *Relevant Links* First Video Detailing Removed Cars: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6TXmomtataUrcU The Insane Scale Of GTA's Removed Cars: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3jFf6Nufrqdm5Y Mercenaries DLC Drip-Feed Cars: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ-wfYqXnN2crbc Mercenaries DLC Testing Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYHXl6CuZayqbNk Mercenaries DLC Showcase: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZOUiaSMrd9lb5o HSW Off-Road Oversight: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3LTZ62cjM6UjMk

[@bigchuck333]

I appreciate what you do, but sorry, the only language rockstar understands is money. And the only way our voices will be heard is if we stop playing.

[@Marquee_Gaming88]

Its not even working

[@thedivide9559]

2:48 at least they added the backrooms

[@Onerva_official]

These cunts will never listen to your voice, they'll only listen to your wallets. Stop playing this shite.

[@hspank]

this DLC is a huge invite for modders to come up with a 3rd party car catalogue order service using available external mod menues and make them user friendly as well as "lucrative" with scripting and discord / patreon authentication. only then r* will clean up the mess and come up with a proper quality of life update for car collectors only. including auto-generated movies of gallery tours, extended car modding workshop. R* seriously has a software project management issue to produce these fundamentally stupid updates.

[@ProcyonDei]

It's odd how two bugs that can potentially delete cars occur exactly after they remove a huge chunk of cars from being purchasable; not saying it's on purpose, but that's one hell of a coincidence...

[@GrySgtBubba]

😂😂😂 Yup, I concur. Rather interesting it is...

[@AscheWholeProductions]

It might not have been on purpose, but it sure as hell looks like it was on purpose.

[@DedAlexFive]

Makes you think, doesnt it?

[@mumbikyleshamutete4829]

It’s on purpose. No need to sugar coat or walk on eggshells. Rockstar have become crooked and greedy. Point blank.

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

Its that their code is messier that fucking java minecraft. Grantee all the shit that broke is because this was a fucking xbox 360 game.

[@davyrando1203]

This is - without hyperbole - literally the worst GTA update ever released.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

nah them starting GTA Online altogether was

[@reenokop]

Apart from after hours because of the oppressor mk2.

[@dantedetsu7781]

Yeah and every dlc the last few years has been getting worse and worse

[@thisfeatureisstupidxo]

A huge fk you to such a loyal community . Gta+ and their greed has ruined this game , unbelievably quickly

[@dantedetsu7781]

@J and since it's this bad now imagine gta 6 with gta online 2 or whatever they're gonna call it no matter how good the gameplay is if the missions and payouts and prices of everything is trash and the game is broken that's going to start another decline

[@DylanQuint]

It's as if they're actively TRYING to ruin the game. This was an absolute horrific update for the community.

[@sebastiangrebe8276]

Trying, i think they are actively sabotaging themselves.

[@hspank]

seems GTA6 hype related, transition time of preparing the GTAO community to subsume to accept that we have entered a post-late game phase, pissing off the community deeply in order to get ready to migrate. or just a change in project management, quality control is abyssmal.

[@tiggs03]

@@sebastiangrebe8276Did the same thing with RDR2 online,I seriously cannot fathom why they treat their playerbase and games like they do. It’s atrocious.

[@vinesauceobscurities]

​@@hspank All that says to us is if these psychological tactics work you can bet your dollar that R* will do it again for the online component of 6, making the experience there just as unpleasant since they have over a decade of experience to show mismanaging multiplayer. Makes GTA6 look less attractive, even if its single player may be infinitely better. I still hadn't bought RDR2 as R* had zero interest porting RDR1 to PC, and knowing what they did for Definitive Edition, they'll probably screw that up too if plans for it did go ahead. Hard to believe that we're at a point in the 2020s when we have even less praises to sing about R* than when GTA5 came out, yet GTA6 will probably still sell like crazy because mainstream gamers are none the wiser. R* under T2 is truly up there in the pantheon of dodgy game companies among the likes of EA, Blizzard-Activision, Microsoft and Ubisoft.

[@miztahrayeproductions2942]

R* is joining the woke bandwagon, it would seem. Bud Light, Target, Jack Daniels, NFL, MLB and now the video game sector. Wokeness is straight up destroying the very fabric of society and the proper ways in which it is meant to function.

[@Miltypooh2001]

As a car collector i love collecting cars that have a long history in the gta series and seeing cars like infernus,comet, cheetah and other classic cars removed from the website it's utterly disgusting that rockstar removed them.

[@savagegoose6018]

Have all the old classics and now I'm worried if I take them out I will lose them

[@deadmanwalking5576]

At least,,, actually no it's all terrible 🤣

[@Miltypooh2001]

@@savagegoose6018 make sure they have insurance otherwise if they get destroyed by a random then it's gone for good.

[@savagegoose6018]

@@Miltypooh2001 just steering c;ear

[@XX-_-XX420]

​@@savagegoose6018they took a bunch of my cars out. Logged back on and I had like 4 cars left.

[@jbtwofour]

I have created around 120 races over the years. I cannot explain how disheartening it is to see my creations destroyed for no reason. To have to go in and try to fix every race.... I don't even want to turn the game anymore. It will take weeks to fix them all! Edit: I am happy to report it seems as though the fix has indeed fixed my tracks! 😆 ... well the ones I attempted, anyway. Now the only person I can blame for their poor construction is me! 😅

[@zali9657]

How did it get destroyed?

[@rpgspyware9560]

​@@zali9657Watch the video and you'll learn.

[@ReiCaixa]

@@zali9657 How about viewing the video before the comments section? 4:40

[@zali9657]

I'm at work I'll watch it later when I get home

[@BigMobe]

I wouldnt bother. This is Rockstars fault so they should be the ones to fix it.

[@ollie5927]

the fact they managed to make a dlc worse than arena war is baffling

[@BigMobe]

The are limits to genius but no limit to stupidity. Never underestimate the power of greed to screw people over. Everything about this DLC, including the bugs, points to GTA+

[@illpunchyouintheface9094]

I thought arena war was great besides everything being so fucking expensive

[@pedinhu18]

​@@TranceportationXthis shitshow requires far more than patience though, it requires extreme measures. Quitting the game altogether would be such a measures, Broughy, Ghillie, The Professional and other KZbinrs quitting the game would be sending a very loud message to them.

[@kapioskapiopoylos7338]

@@illpunchyouintheface9094 I agree, the shit is expensive even with current gta economy terms. Back then it was totaly outlandish. Appart from that and the the matchmaker getting stuck on clouds, it would be a verry fun dlc to me.

[@Onerva_official]

The fact that people still play this piece of shit is even more baffling.

[@bespokeaeronautics4454]

Rockstar: 1 step forward 186 steps back

[@maniacsangel9046]

I always think of that one Song on K-Dst (Gta San Andreas) I think when I read Messages like yours lol.

[@footballhead6077]

nobody gets too far like that. (Any OG San Andreas players?) x)

[@mr.razington7881]

​@@footballhead6077 this kinda dance can NEVER LAAAAST

[@HesNeon]

Rockstar’s respect to the community is so bad that it’s not even funny anymore

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

they never respected the community to begin with lol

[@MaxwellTornado]

Respect? From a company? What?

[@Marquee_Gaming88]

Respect? From cockstargames? Are you high?

[@DubberRucks]

R*: What is this "respect" you speak of? 🤔

[@devinmccanna645]

They straight-up hate fans of the franchise. I think a lot of this is explained by Kotaku article about how the company culture has changed. They probably think the average GTA player is racist, sexist, etc, and therefore deserves to be treated like garbage. It’s not just greed anymore. Breaking people’s custom races doesn’t make them money, and it wasn’t an accident. They did it because they hate the people who play the game.

[@RockandRail]

You're absolutely right! I don't blame the small team that's behind and overworked. I blame the suits for these decisions. Those "lesser used" cars are more fun to use because 1. They are cheaper to buy 2. They are charismatic in their own way. 3. Speed is not everything in gta online.

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

Yeah. The pokemon community has made it pretty clear. All pokemons can be used. But you can't stick fucking mewtwo against a fucking caterpie. It just don't work! But of course players don't see it this way. They want to run around in god mode in their truck that has the AA cannon trailer. And anything less than that is "haha you suck" followed by a breakup kick. God. Players really will just minmax the fun out of the fun....

[@DanniV8]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Very fitting in the case of GTA V. It's been a good decade, but now it's time for something else.

[@gundamkid2002]

If recent Events are a sign of things to come , I’ll pass on the “ something else “ . 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@flik.]

They were never the hero. Suits gonna suit

[@TofuBurrito]

It's been time for something else for quite sometime now lol

[@mechanomics2649]

They reached that point years ago.

[@StuartLugsden]

*online

[@racermigs1]

My expectations for this DLC were rock-bottom, but R* still found a way to surprise me (and not in a good way).

[@DubberRucks]

Yep, they made it look like the bottom was just the top of the basement levels. 😂

[@888PsyMike888]

Those expectations just went through bedrock.

[@Marquee_Gaming88]

@@888PsyMike888 that's not low enough it goes thru the core of the earth

[@XX-_-XX420]

​@@Marquee_Gaming88that's still to high

[@_Devil]

This singular update should be setting off every single red flag, alarm bell, nuclear/tornado siren, and every other audible warning system inside of your head for how GTA 6 Online is going to be like. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that the singleplayer is going to be absolutely Ballin' six ways till Sunday, but how bad GTA 5 Online is now is going to be how GTA 6 Online will be at launch. So yes folks, despite this being the worst update for GTA 5 Online to date, Rockstar _can_ go lower, and they absolutely will in GTA 6 Online.

[@user-lr5jr9jt5o]

Or they will fuck up the story mode too this time with GTA Plus

[@pedinhu18]

​​@@user-lr5jr9jt5o fear that this will be a reality too. I have no hopes on these devs running the show whatsoever.

[@F3cast]

@@user-lr5jr9jt5o Don't need gta+ for that. The big names from the old writers are gone for years now. I don't even have hope for the storyline at this point.

[@DutyStalker357]

Many of the old faces, especially in the writing team have moved on to other things. I’m not confident whoever is in charge now is capable of writing something as nuanced or funny as GTA SA, IV, or RDR2. V’s story was pretty mid, but at least it was fun.

[@professionalinsultant3206]

@@F3cast remember kdj sessanta? This will be the level of writing for gta 6 story mode.

[@aboomer420]

Rockstar and their publisher are a blight on the industry. It's hard to watch one of my favourite game devs be completely destroyed like this. Absolutely disgusting.

[@lobotomyscam1051]

I blame the Boomers. They ruined the entire planet and everything on it, so...

[@theexplodedguys264]

For real

[@Goatcha_M]

The worst part of the lie. We removed them to streamline the websites buying experience, while vastly complicating the actual buying experience for anything removed.

[@Scourge77]

When Broughy rants, you listen, because when he does, he makes you see all the shit that's wrong with R* and all the crap they've been doing to rip everyone off.

[@broughy1322]

Honestly I was pretty pleased with the way this video turned out, as a whole across audio with the points I was wanting to make and video with the examples I was wanting to show. Hopefully it resonates with people.

[@Scourge77]

@@broughy1322 I honestly think it will, because you very professionally articulated every point, as well as showed what was broken and taken away. The lining up of the cars at the airport was brilliant. That imagery alone will catch many people's eyeballs and attention to what R* is doing. We've given them the benefit of the doubt, so many times, no more.

[@MJY5drives]

In one update, I've gone from playing this game 24/7 to not wanting to touch it and considering uninstalling it altogether. I'm not gonna give these clowns at Rock* the satisfaction of me playing their game, and I know I'm not the only one feeling this way.

[@Britt4ny]

seeing the background footage, 32 people racing, makes me want to install it right now... but then i remember how shit this game altogether is, not to mention eating 100+gb of my HDD. so sick of Rockstar.

[@afxtwinreverb]

Same, but I uninstalled just after drug wars dlc. This company doesnt deserve our attention and time anymore. Sometimes Id like to get in but fuck them. The gta trilogy, gta plus, uninspiring and extremely expensive new content, pc security issues… They are the perfect representation of minimum effort, maximum profit.

[@Rickyfffff]

I’m right there with you. Absolutely considering uninstalling especially after the account migration bs

[@CaptainVideoBlaster]

Can't even imagine how scumbaggy Rockstar's nickel and diming will be with GTA 6's online.

[@samuelleescott6959]

It's such a shame as me and a close friend of mine where looking forward to it 😢

[@theonlyMoancore]

I already know it's gonna lose its humor. Instead of making fun of everyone it'll be "inclusive". Like instead of a billboard saying "Hey Fatass" it'll be "Love yourself" or something.

[@ahvike124]

I'm part of crews where we frequently host all kinds of events with themed playlists and other activities. Since most C* created jobs don't fit enough players needed for us, we have to rely a lot on the community created jobs. Unfortunately now most of the jobs we've often played are broken and unplayable. I honestly wish this update never happened. Seeing the panic in the creator Discord in the morning of the DLC release felt like a nightmare. Instead of excitedly checking out all the new vehicles and missions, I and other creators had to witness with horror the sea of blue fences in our jobs and hundreds of hours gone to waste. Yes, some creators even used mods but nothing harmful came of using them. On the contrary, their works expanded the gaming experience a lot and the whole community got to enjoy those wonderful creations from slippery ice tracks to crazy alien maps, custom sumo modes and so on. Alas, C* fun police once again had to intervene.

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

Live service games are cancer. Brother. Go to your people. Tell them its time for all of us to create a priavte community run version of GTA online. The RP community already basically does this. Its peer to peer! We can steward our hobby better than some suit can.

[@beelzebuth2479]

At least you can somewhat confort yourself in the fact that you got to experience it. I wish I had

[@AeonPhoenix]

​@@Moe_Posting_Chad Which will be taken down by R* unfortunately.

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

@@AeonPhoenix No. It won't. They can try. But torrents are forever. Burner accounts are free. Only a moron would try to profit off of making video game mods. Hell dude. *THE ROLE PLAY GTA COMMUNITY ALREADY RUNS PRIVATE SERVERS!*

[@AeonPhoenix]

@@Moe_Posting_Chad It would be the smart idea to avoid taking down private servers and mods that don't undercut the company itself, but no, Rockstar took down several dozen mods for their older GTA titles just so they can release the Definitive Edition. In fact, Nintendo and Activision-Blizzard took down other non-profit fan games and mods for seemingly no reason at all. If it's possible to do so, then Rockstar will lock those servers behind the GTA Online Plus paywall or erase those servers from existence entirely, because they solely serve the shareholders and most players wouldn't care about quality because they pay for shark cards and keep Rockstar rich.

[@schwierigerhase8822]

It is just hilarious that pc never got expanded and enhanced

[@Umber1911]

A 'bug' that really annoys me is how some clothing items now have clipping issues. A long time favorite outfit of mine now has a clipping issue where the tank top will poke through the denim jacket I'm wearing over it, making it look weird. I noticed the patch notes stated they fixed a clipping issue with some clothing items, but of course in usual Rockstar fashion, they didn't test any of the other clothing items before finalizing everything. Truly a garbage, low effort update.

[@Miltypooh2001]

Same here I'm wearing one of the car meet hoodies and my female character's hair is clipped with the hoodie

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

I would have paid money to play on the previous patch.

[@llolinlaik]

@@Moe_Posting_Chad don't give em ideas

[@Kasper-qr3in]

Thank you broughy for putting time in making content like this and showing rockstars true colours!

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

That moment when a GTA youtuber knows more about a game then it's developers 🤬💀

[@saturn580]

Despite GTA Online being a 10-year-old game, Rockstar seem to be paying lots of attention to it recently. Unfortunately, all their efforts are directed at shamelessly exploiting the player base, rather than improving their experience.

[@popeo1973]

wtf it not been 10 year yet it like 9 years 10 mouth 👿

[@aku_]

"We found a number of issues causing the game to have specific bugs when these props were used so we had remove them. We are sorry to all the creators that have done such amazing jobs over the years but we could not figure out another way." - Rockstar Games Im pretty sure if R* was explaining just 10% of their actions like this then the community would understand. But we're left in the dark for absolutely 0 reason.

[@treebeard840]

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

When you have to choose between assuming stupidity or malice. *IT'S MALICE EVERY TIME. THEY HATE YOU. THEY THINK ITS FUNNY.*

[@chaosmagican]

@@Moe_Posting_Chad Heh, we should coin it Rockstar's Razor

[@MattJames2211]

Love this new "piss everyone in the GTA community off" update Also about the new jet you are incorrect, that also has nerfed explosive guns. The Lazer and Hydra nerf was a good thing.

[@jaumegenaro7673]

No it wasn't, they were completely fine how they were, but of course they had to tone it down in order to make the new jet look better. Now they're just as bad as the B-11, worse even, since the B-11 has proper rockets and bombs, not even direct hits from the cannon kills a target on foot. Absolute dog shit, the only vehicle left with the death cannon is the Savage chopper.

[@MattJames2211]

@@jaumegenaro7673 yeah totally fine before where you could just spray vaguely close to someone and kill them requiring very little skill, no issues whatsoever the new jet isn't even better its the same

[@connorpallister4804]

​@@MattJames2211yeah but the lazar and hydra now struggle with A.I. I thought they would just nerf the splash damage, so you would still have to aim, but you can still do straifing runs. They've made the hydra and lazar obsolete. I think they should boost all cannon rates to the normal rate, and also slightly increasing the B-11 and raiju since they have the best handling, while also reducing the blast damage on all of them

[@MattJames2211]

@@connorpallister4804 raiju seems pretty decent against enemy AI, if you use the hover mode that is I haven't tried the lazer or hydra but I was never very good with those anyway

[@connorpallister4804]

@@MattJames2211 yeah the raiju can stop pretty much instantly whereas the hydra it'll take 10 seconds to stop continuously going forward before you can hit your target

[@eduardomartins467]

Another bug that wasn't mentioned but it's affecting other players (including me) is regarding the vehicle rewards by completing final missions like getting Agatha's Paragon R, Dave's Weevil and recently Friedlander's Virtue. Yesterday i finished the Last Dose missions and got the call from Dax to pick up the Virtue but didn't spawn in the map (even though going to its spawn location it was still not there). Restarted the game and still didn't spawn. I'm not even mad at this point, many people wrote to R* support regarding this bug where some got the money to buy the Virtue but many got those stupid automated answers where some ahole tried to get on our nerves stating that it was a limited time event in march that's now expired and that the car can't be redeemed, like bro... At this point i don't even care anymore nor i will waste my time writing to R* support about the Virtue bug, me just seeing from multiple sources, youtubers, etc, stating the problems, laziness and greed that this "DownGradeableContent" (DLC) is, just makes me even more to stop playing this game completely (the reason why i finished the Last Dose missions only now).

[@thisispartaa]

I was looking for this bug in the video thanks for pointing it out. I wasn't sure if it was a bug or a limited time event. If it is happening with other reward cars then for sure it's a bug. I remember getting Agatha's Paragon R on PS4.

[@sharp340]

I knew I wasn't going crazy I did all the casino missions and the car never spawn at the port I guess I know why now ...

[@beelzebuth2479]

A thing about the virtue that went unnoticed, aside from the fact that you still can't use sticky in them, you now can't shoot at all in remote control car mode, which was possible before.

[@siegfreid3623]

Here at C*nt star, we hear your complaints, so we updated our props to be all blue fences We'll aslo re-add the removed vehicles as blue fences And for the Gta+ menbership we'll add exclusive new blue fences Enjoy the blue fence DLC!

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Cockstar is more appropriate

[@seccosec]

No need for the misogynistic name calling.

[@jmillz8049]

​@@seccosecthat's the problem everyone is too soft so what if he said the c word its not the end of the world.

[@BigMobe]

Many years ago, on PS3, I lost the first car I got in GTA Online due to an insurance bug. It was a Dominator I grabbed off the street that Simeon covered for me. I also had the original Dukes car disappear as returning player award on PS4 for disconnecting my account from the social club. I do that because sometimes it helps resolve odd bugs. In both cases, Rockstar gave me money for the value of the lost vehicles but could or would not restore them. I bet the insurance and MOC delete bugs have something to due with R* trying to stop car duplication glitchers.

[@afxtwinreverb]

GTA VI: Ability to walk 5$ Ability to run 10$ Ability to shoot 20$

[@Mara_thorn]

Don't forget the 7$ for respawn

[@ph1lh0ff]

I remember when Rockstar made great games and cared about the gamers. I'm just sick of the mess they have created and I'm looking forward to watching you play something else.

[@SabNik]

This update really has now finally pushed it over the line for me and I have now quit this game. I feel ashamed for having hope in this company. It is a disgrace to the gaming industry and really highlights so many things wrong with the gaming industry. The problem is they will get away with it because the majority of the people/community just don’t give enough of a f*ck to actually notice what is going on or even more, then actually care to do anything against it and stand up for themselves… This update really has just made me sad…

[@mickporter1488]

You are lucky they didn't charge you for every DLC update. One bad update n everyone has a bitch fit...get a grip

[@blizzaricity7521]

Yeah mate good on ya. Quit this game long ago and it is the best thing I could’ve done. The game used to be so much fun, but the cancerous community + the relentless grind and overall exploitative business practices from Rockstar Has genuinely made it a chore to play. You are right too: the majority will keep playing which will tell Rockstar they can treat their fans like trash and they’ll come back for seconds. Really disappointing, however it can’t be helped.

[@AxlePineapple]

perfectly named DLC though. R* are being rather mercenary.

[@andyukmonkey]

The time to stop caring has long passed anyway

[@rixbyte7438]

You know, it's crazy how this managed to beat Arena Wars and LSDW as the worst DLC's, truly impressive.

[@alphakevin3153]

The fact that he mention the Expanded and Enhanced really put a smile in my face. So many ppl forget about PC and Im sick of it. I also want those speedy cars and stuff. The customizations and all. The graphic overhauls. But no..after years, still nothing. I really hope at THE VERY LEAST that it drops either this or middle of next year. If not, Idk if Imma be playing GTA much longer. Its getting boring at this point.

[@KRT392]

Before you even spoke I said to myself after looking at the title your head is done in over the cars, good vid and valid points.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

I think, they´re trying to figure out, how much they can push, before the community will push back. Another possibility is testing content and psychological systems for GTA6. Also, there is high possibility, the game content is now made by novice programmers (widespread issue throughout the industry nowadays), who lack understanding, how the game is coded, which leads to appearances of those game-breaking bugs.

[@ODean-qi5xt]

Or the online component for GTA VI is being designed to be a lot more reliant on grinding pay-to-win machanics from the get-go, so by watering down GTA Online new players won't know that it used to be better. Same thing happened with the multiplayer part of GTA IV, it was a LOT more fun simply because you could just log on and have fun without any paywalls.

[@InvisibleHotdog]

GTAO had BS grinding for years too, still kinda does for new players

[@ThePwebb]

I wouldn't be surprised if a large majority of the best programers left after the 2+ years of "crunch time" work scheduling for Red Dead 2. Last quarter, or even last 2 quarters crunch has been a thing for a long time, but R* took it to a new level with over 8 quarters of 80+ hours a week on salary pay.

[@chrisbrooke540]

Calling it now: They're gonna make a GTA+ version of the creator with all of the props available, and only those who are GTA+ subscribers will be able to see those props and race on those tracks.

[@DubberRucks]

What about a GTA+ tier for online next game around, 6, where you can get more than you can in the free version? 🤔

[@InvisibleHotdog]

​@@DubberRucks it ain't free if you gotta buy the damn game to get it

[@Good_Horsey]

Knowing Rockstar you won't be able to shoot more than 100 rounds per day in the online of VI, unless you have that sweet GTA+

[@Skirakzalus]

Their lies about streamlining the websites become even more obvious when you take into account that they didn't even remove the topless versions of the Coquette Classic and Banshee on legendary, which are of course the exact same cars as the regular versions. Adding/removing the roof is a tuning option. Also of course it was crucial to remove the Comet from Benny's as that wasn't already one of the sites with the least amount of stock.

[@KagedWhizDumb]

Thanks for all the coverage Broughy! I imagine the discussion in chat was intense and it's a relief to have this interaction if we can't catch the live streams. Here's to hoping that GTA 6 is the pinnacle of Rockstar professionalism 😂

[@RackTheMilesWelding]

Rockstar has been this way for a long ass time and yet the people who are still giving them money years later are finally catching on.

[@Halixar]

Another (but minor) grievance I have with the MonstroCiti is that you can't change the license plates on it.

[@broughy1322]

I did actually mention that. I don't consider it a minor grievance tbh, it's annoying it was overlooked. Speak to the lack of quality control.

[@pedinhu18]

​@@broughy1322also it has no reinforced armor option...But it does have BP windows. That car is just so weird, it's a ImaniTech car that can also have HSW mods, it comes with BP windows as standard but somehow it doesn't have a dedicated map blip like all the other ImaniTech vehicles with BP windows have, also no reinforced armor which means that it blows up with one RPG or Grenade...

[@Halixar]

@@pedinhu18 honestly I feel like they just copy-pasted the characteristics of the MonstroCiti from another vehicle. Similar to with what happened with the Virtue.

[@broughy1322]

Like I said in the video, the reinforced armour is associated with the roll cage modification. It’s there but not in its own category. It’s a mess of a car tbh

[@luislongoria6621]

It's a 2 door version of the Rumpo Custom like all of the other vehicles with bullet-resistant windows that were added with the Gun Running dlc where the armor is more of a visual effect like the Arena vehicles and the Paragon R. I've had zero issues running the Armored Tampa whose dual driver operated mini guns make short work of NPCs despite being vulnerable to a single rocket

[@bagginzhd1715]

Been waiting for this. Thank you 👏

[@deandavies1462]

Nail hit on the head, fell 100% with everything in this video. Good work

[@Allanmjj]

U know when broughy cusses it litterally tells u that this game not only has pissed him off but pissed the whole community off.

[@VlaunBurtlecraft]

This update by itself has killed all my interest in the game. Finally, to be honest - it has been a long run. I'm a solo player mostly because I liked gta online for the collector aspect. It was fun for me to role play a criminal with too much money at their disposal and so was also as an exotic car collector. It was why I subscribed to your channel: for the information on car performances before I purchased them. So, the removal of so many cars at one go from being purchased (with the obvious intention of introducing FOMO) has stripped what I enjoyed about GTA Online from the game. Plus, I liked to use the jets pre-update, both Lazer and Hydra, not to grief other players, but for goofing off with cops in freemode. Picking off their cruisers and keeping 5 stars for as long as possible. It reminded me of the old rampaging I used to do on III era gta games. That too is more or less gone with the update.

[@3eezy]

Sucks that the jet cannons all suck now because people were griefing hard after the oppressor nerf 🤦🏾‍♂️. I'm kinda getting over always online games because your fun is always dictated by people who are dicks if you think about it.

[@Britt4ny]

i know everyone says this all the time.. but omg i can't believe we've let it get to this point. wtf are we doing to prevent this?!

[@rpgspyware9560]

Not much really. Afaik the last major scream for help from the community to the devs was about the account deletion exploit caused by mod menus on the PC version. Despite the gravity of the situation it still took them atleast 2 weeks to fix the issue. I doubt they will respond in a helpful manner in this case.

[@Gta4isgarbage]

Simple, don't buy anything from them

[@brutace9219]

The craziest thing is the best part of this update was a hot fix that's years past date (the cannon nerf). This update shows that Rockstar has fully clocked out, or redirected all their recourses to GTA 6, but that's no excuse.

[@shadowmaster452]

Thought it was known at this point that Rockstar assigned a small team for GTA Online whereas the rest is working on GTA VI. I think this was confirmed years ago by someone on GTAForums, but basically that's the reason why the small GTAO team sucks lol

[@PhillyReese215]

That's a shame at this point the quality of life updates are more important than the content updated.

[@Ed_Assyrian]

How is making a cannon weaker a good thing? Do you hate fun? Get a life u nerd

[@brutace9219]

@@PhillyReese215 True, but to be honest the most important update they could release is a massive mod/glitch purge... Or any update that doesn't break half the game.

[@pedinhu18]

If they truly clocked out on this game then they should grow a fucking spine and come out to say that they're ending DLC support for this game and now are all hands on deck with VI. But not before fixing the shitshow that they caused with this DLC.

[@JakeP2013]

the prop thing is maddening, but I almost don't feel bad for the creator community with how hard they gatekept how to get access to the hidden props.

[@Unchainedful]

I agree, every time you ask them how they did it, they want you to join discord select a role and do this and then this. MF just tell how you did it, we don’t need Discord.

[@BlewGhost]

Preach Broughy, keep fighting the good fight! 🧡

[@GaffaTV]

Excellent video.

[@callumjones9664]

my biggest annoyance with this mission is the third angels mission where you dogfight a bunch of jets, helicopters and 2 avengers, everything else isn't that bad but the FUCKING AVENGERS have for some reason what feels like a million health, 2 rockets from the jet doing bugger all damage to it and they also have the explosive cannons that basically one shot you

[@AvalansaOG]

Heya B! Nice clip. Thx for explaining all this to us! Very helpfull! I also started the switch to 5m or RageMP and i think it fits me better than GTA V Online!

[@EyeDuDab]

i love watching you race, its so elegant and refined for perfection

[@Frenegres]

Oh mate u summed it all up very accurately and i couldnt agree with you more. I cant imagine how bad R* communicates with eachother (suits and devs) its an absolute shit show and I wish this whole update could get reverted

[@tunespt]

Rockstar just paving the way to what GTA6 is going to be, an online subscription based game with paywalls everywhere, in fact where most games are going this days, and this won't be any exception.

[@DubberRucks]

That's what 6 is starting to smell like. Sure you can play campaign for the base price, but online? GTA+ thank you please bye bye

[@BigMobe]

Pretty much. I doubt I will bother with GTA 6 online since it will start with all the worst monetization this game ends with.

[@yosefortez4009]

My man 👏 This video is fire

[@meme-ge8tq]

I was expecting a longer video

[@phillipramz8882]

Imagine the bitter irony if this was the dlc that allowed the ardent to be in races, yet removed it at the same time.

[@bobsmith12345]

absolutely unbelievable update, this is a great summary

[@__Crysis]

Dont forget about the Cayo Perico weapon loadouts being completely broken

[@vladvorobev7064]

hi from viper rambles :D

[@Masgel_]

In the Experience Improvements newswire article, they said that the prop limit on PC is gonna get raised to 300. Well, unfortunately, this change has not been made, but what's disappointed me the most is that line in the article was deleted! A last-minute decision reversal on something that would've been quite significant for creators...

[@mayorwest8679]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 summed up perfectly

[@philly7857]

Broughy goin in today 💪🏻 no sugar coating.

[@redzeppelin7728]

Wow. The final nail in the coffin came years ago for me, but this is just laughably absurd! How did Rockstar end up like this? I never could have predicted this, as someone who used to play their games obsessively. They were so reliable. GTA 4 Online was the best online experience I've ever had. I feel that the majority of game design decisions in GTA 5 Online make no sense whatsoever XD ... and have made it unplayable for me, personally.

[@Fouromaly]

Oh nah if Broughy has to say somethings it's a problem💯💯

[@stevecroll1002]

Preach it Broughy!!

[@forehand101]

I love that the ad I got for this video was the GTAO Mercenaries ad lol

[@ptrcrispy]

They honestly could've ended with the Criminal Enterprise DLC. But then nobody would have a reason to buy GTA+ anymore if there's no content to spend money into.

[@driftinziggygaming7395]

I'm glad I deleted the game.. ill still support your channel and all of your hard work.

[@allanmhanson]

GTA V is getting in line with the GTA Trilogy to give us a consistent experience. Great work.

[@DVNGXR]

One thing to add is that about a year ago they buffed the nightclub, making it generate money faster and increased the safe capacity. And they added 2 very quick and easy mini missions to gain popularity. With this update they've put some kind of cooldown on the mini missions. Idk exactly how long, but you used to be able to do them over and over repeatedly and now you cant. Its very annoying anytime they make positive changes and add missions, businesses or activities that actually give you enough money to be worth doing, they end up quietly nerfing them. Like changing the payphone hit cooldown from 15 to 45 minutes.

[@daviderk9556]

I am a Huge fan of both Broughy1322 & Failrace, have seen Incredible Races & Minigames done by both. But to see T2 Interactive destroy a community this big to the point of it being on life support is just sad. Not looking forward to GTA 6 Online, hoping it won't become a paid subscription game.

[@weedsoldier.]

Wouldn't be surprised if next week all our money will be "randomly" deleted

[@st_jimmy_crimson_xii]

My issue is the left both the banshee and topless versions on the website. Surely only required one version as lsc offers a chance to add or remove the roof. But they removed both voltic and rapid gt versions.

[@FBI.sMostUnwanted]

We are few but, we also want a feature to remove clothing items we don't want/need from our character's wardrobe. I've been asking this for years.

[@koolaid33]

Not sure if anyone said this yet (aside from DarkViperAU of all people): Rockstar silently removed over 200 Adversary Mode jobs in the last few hours, & they are completely inaccessible, because they also removed the ability to play delisted jobs via old playlists, which means delisted contact missions, delisted races, etc. are completely inaccessible. They somehow made an update so bad, it's attracted the attention of news outlets who have never even played GTAO before, & yet their commenting on the massive outrage that Rockstar is getting.

[@GreenSharkMedia]

Darkviper does play online lol.

[@koolaid33]

@@GreenSharkMedia ?

[@GreenSharkMedia]

@koolaid2216 sorry misread. I thought you were aluding to the fact, matto, doesn't play GTA Online lol.

[@koolaid33]

@@GreenSharkMedia lol that's fine it happens

[@GreenSharkMedia]

@@koolaid33 all the best. Have a great day.

[@dansmith6909]

Said it before: Been buying GTA since GTA 1. GTA V is my last. Playing it was already psychological warfare, trying to have some fun against the weight of push to buy a shark card... then this.

[@Johnny362000]

Psychological warfare is such a good way to describe it, I'm gonna use that one from now on

[@lutt6796]

9:47 this aged nice. also the one rockstar created race you showed was already broken before the update but got fixed in the revert

[@drmangler6475]

I did notice that during the doomsday heist and the cayo perico heist some things were missing. The first doomsday heist where you're talking to the agent on his phone, he's gone and doesn't show up anymore.

[@jotsoneq_]

I think these changes to the creator might have been (at least temporarily) reverted on PC. I've heard from PC creators today that their tracks with dev accessed props are working for the time being. I hope this will stay and is a tiny light in the tunnel, but knowing r*, they will probably find a way to make it even worse. Oh, and by the way this wasn't mentioned in the video, but PC was supposed to get in the creator 300 props and 30 removals (instead of 200+20) as stated in the newswire post, but they deleted that part from it and we still haven't got it. By far the worst GTA DLC released, I'm switching to sim and real life racing and definitely not coming back. Maybe in GTA 6

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

Dont forget to get the drugs and murder mod for sims!

[@SimplestUsername]

I suppose there's someone at Rockstar whos entire job is to make everyone "play by the rules" by deleting restricted props. In a game about breaking the rules.

[@DubberRucks]

All the while stealing cars from you that you, the player, are supposed to be stealing.

[@Johnny362000]

thanks for making it clear who the bad guy is here! It's so frustrating seeing people both attacking and defending the game making it all about the devs and not the people actually making the important (or controversial) decisions Also it was funny seeing my Ratel clip make an appearance. If you'd told me you were gonna use it I would've given you a higher quality version instead of the compressed 720p clip I made for discord lol

[@broughy1322]

To be honest I was just grabbing everything I saw over the last week in anticipation of this video, not knowing if I'd use it or not. Some stuff didn't even make it in. It's been quite a week!

[@Johnny362000]

@@broughy1322 I figured as much, just thought I'd put it out there if you ever wanna use one of my clips again lol. As it is I got a good bit of amusement out of seeing my clip featuring my friend's discord name "Shiteater9000 (Dumbo)" for a few moments in one of your videos

[@enterchannelname90]

Fixing the browsing experience would've been as simple as implementing a search bar. But no, im now not allowed to buy cars that I actually want now. Hats off to this woeful update

[@DeadEye0767]

Honestly at this point im looking forward less and less to GTA 6 because im totally expecting the Single player to be cut back with alot of focus being on Online so they can cash cow it from release and harder than it currently is.

[@alexg91_ssr5]

I'm just speechless... This gaame isn't going downhill, it's in free fall

[@jolisan3920]

Caida libre

[@NatureXwars]

One very personal thing that this update did for me is being able to access GTA Online again. In one of the tickets I submitted back in early April, R* somehow bricked my profile & I was unable to load into Online until it fixed itself with this update, absolutely none of the troubleshooting fixed the issue in the 2 months between then & the update.... I'm just glad to be back playing with all my stuff & with my friends. Even though the update broke countless stuff, it is ironically the one that fixed my issue that overshadows it all.

[@internetkumquat4542]

I remember the chaos GTA V was in the transitional period between 360 and Xbox One round 2014-2016. The updates functioned and gave new content; modded goofy missions worked well with legit ones and it made for endless ridiculous hours bouncing between a race then a modded deathmatch that could break your game. I ultimately retired my GTA Online account in 2018-'19 when just about everyone I knew had parted ways, and I saw that the "golden age" of Online was coming to an end ,as prices were skyrocketing, players became bigger griefers, and the grinds went from: fun to we were nearly melting down in pure fury when even a slight bad judgement call happened. I don't regret not looking back on it and I will just embrace what I had done in it. I had a modest account, and I mainly just helped friends, who spent a lot more time grinding than I choose to, which I was fine with. I began playing Online in 2013 and it feels unbelievable it's been a decade since and Online did not age well and it's frustrating to see a company collapse in just one development cycle of one of their games.

[@pedinhu18]

And I thought that things couldn't get any worst than the Drug Wars DLC...This is easily the worst update in all of the 10 years of this game's life, I'm not even joking. Even the jet nerf couldn't salvage this shit.

[@kieroncraig3594]

if this goes unnoticed for another few weeks, i think it's time some of the big names in the gta community got together and organised a gta-online blackout. a total boycott would be the best way to get a response honestly i think a lot of us are subconciously boycotting anyway. i've got no drive to play knowing i can't get any of the cars i want

[@X.Draxius]

If this channel plus GhillieMaster, TGG, HarmNone all decided to do that and enough fans follow them, that would be significant. I'm already staying off the game until I can go one week without there being a glitch that deletes something forever

[@jaketinsley1987]

A boycott blackout of gta 5 online is exactly what we need.

[@13devilz]

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but I've noticed that the Stirling GT has a much darker wheel and tire on the passenger side front. The Hotring Everon also suffers from this but it's on the driver side rear. Noticeably darker. The new Monstrociti's fifth wheel, if it's anything other than the factory cover, the wheel and cover disappear when looking from the inside out. You can look straight through! The Granger 3600LX I purchased in the game a while back had body panels to show that it was armored. The armor panels are gone from every door now except for the driver door. Also, the trim piece between the hood and grille has magically disappeared. fails on fails.

[@MrMuziekman]

the ammounth off vihicle deletion related bugs this dlc is insane and to conincedental with the car removel and the vinewood carclub you make solid points here i do also expect these cheap cars to come back more expensive

[@Icefly-Lena]

I started playing GTA online on PS5 recently with my partner. We enjoyed what GTA online has been. Nightclub popularity money was increased on next gen, the Agency was a great way to make money occasionally and everything was going fine. We actually had a blast playing even if it was just freemode. When I noticed they removed almost 200 cars to "improve the browsing experience" (Sorry, I meant "to make yet another cash grab"), I said I don't want to play this game anymore. I uninstalled it from my console immediately, being super upset with what was going on. Later my partner asked if we could do our daily spin one last time to set an end to our daily spin tradition. Tears fell when I said I had already uninstalled it and that I'm done with the game. A longer while ago, my partner wanted me to get a certain dress from the Casino. I said I'm not much into dresses but eventually bought it just from the chips I gathered through our daily spins and said I will eventually create a nice outfit with it, which never happened until this DLC dropped. I installed it again on the same day the update launched after feeling extremely bad and guilty. I told my partner to wait at the Casino, I need to do something. Right before I came back, I said that I had a promise to keep and fulfil. We started crying and gave the game and Rockstar our final minutes of playtime. Anyway, GTA 5 online has been fun. Over 2500hrs combined, a million laughed out tears.. and two (probably hundreds of thousands) broken hearted players at the end. Sad to see you go like this, Rockstar.

[@BrownsFanInCincy]

The love the DLC for one thing… the hangar changes… I love that you can do it by land now

[@GZF4]

Anyone remember when this game was good and it felt like gaming could get better

[@juniorjones9719]

Well said

[@evinco6954]

I think snow was available right away, it was just that you needed to restart the game or that some got it later than others or something. I’m not sure, but I’m pretty sure I played a job with snow on either day 1 or day 2

[@Halc]

As someone that hosts frequently (from an open since they switched crew session to private after launch), an extra issue is the joining bug. If people try to join between screens you get stuck for ages at a time. I played 2 jobs of a 16 job PL last week, it took 1 hour to play these jobs and only 15 minutes of this time was gameplay, constantly stuck between screens. Launching jobs taking 6 or 7 mins to load through while people try to connect. I know there are work arounds, invite only etc but then people cannot join later on, it's not fair to many players that maybe cannot get on at launch time, different time zones and all that. If I went to the cinema and 1 hr in I'd watched 15 mins of a movie and 45 mins freeze frame I'd leave. No wonder people have had enough.

[@bubbles8302]

What does he mean by the monstrociti having imani armour under the roll cage option? I don’t see a roll cage option in the customisation menu