Everything Wrong With Hereditary In 13 Minutes Or Less

[@brodypenn]

Yes the 1.5 minutes of crying was a lot but you should have played the sounds Toni Collette was making. She sounded legitimately heartbroken and it made me feel awful inside. She truly nailed it with that scene and I can’t believe you sinned it. *reverse ding*

[@haleymichelle4919]

Saturn crying hysterically after seeing your beheaded daughter in your car is overreacting?

[@headtopprotector7521]

Saturn you are a dumbass

[@saltshaker2861]

Saturn wow ur so edgy for calling the screams of a heartbroken, grieving mother an overreaction. so badass, dude. also the “hurr durr it’s fiction” excuse doesn’t really work here because, believe it or not, fiction reflects parts of reality! so aside from the demon parts of this film, the dysfunctional family losing a beloved member probably warrants a reaction similar to this.

[@emilyroberts4128]

@@saturn469 watch out dude might cut yourself on all that edge

[@Kammsammich]

Saturn get a new shtick lol You weirdos don’t get bored of being anonymously douchey online?

[@TjPhysicist]

5:30 no mention of that "next morning" scene, that scene turned my stomach in so many ways...the way it was done, the acting from the son, realising what he's done and just waiting in horror for the moment when his actions are discovered, that absolutely raw emotion of the mom screaming/crying...just...DAMN!

[@janellejulianajoy]

Exactly. The dread and shock on Peter's face after "it" happens was crazy. When he tries to make himself look in the rearview mirror but couldn't.

[@mochabearry]

TheDRMISTERY Yeah, I think the commenter meant that it should have just been noted or even had a sin removed.

[@TjPhysicist]

@@mochabearry yeeap. I mean he DID remove a sin earlier for the moms acting but god damn, that scene and the acting of everyone in it (even the father tbh) just COMPLETELY sold it, 100 sins removed worthy for sure.

[@samuellinares2001]

this movie was too perfect

[@calebshoemaker]

Stopped watching after that.

[@elizabethlehuta]

I'm just realizing now that the person who was putting the ridiculous amount of nuts in the cake was probably someone in the cult....

[@dr4g0nitedive29]

Wow you could be right.

[@rihno798]

Interesting

[@prestons4988]

Everything was planned by the cult. The party was set by the cult, the cake, everything

[@quannguyenle9775]

​@@prestons4988 "the cake is a lie" some AI warned us long ago

[@dirtnasty27]

Joy Montgomery how’d you find that out?

[@davidanderson4543]

Just watched this movie and I'm so glad you pointed out the epipen sin. Like what family NEVER carries an epipen?

[@krustykrab34]

A family that doesn't have any deadly allergies?

[@squarish1414]

@@krustykrab34 Except they did lol.

[@lucycortis8334]

@@hehno4226 but did u see their house ???

[@ProfessorPerhaps]

Right? Like you’d think they’d make her carry one with her at all times (especially before sending her to a party with her older brother) or at least they’d have 1 or 2 stashed in the cars glovebox for emergencies or whatever

[@kentuckykid231]

I have an epipen and I can confirm we never brought it anywhere I haven’t seen one in 5+ years

[@Volgher]

7:12 I actually like Peter's cry on this scene. It reminds me of how children cry and to see a teenager in such shock and go through such trauma that he would regress to a child's mental state, I think that, if it was the actor's choice, it was brilliant

[@JonYodice]

MAKE IT FUCKIN STOP

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

100%

[@narcleptik]

Yeah so true

[@Silentbob1494]

Dude, i've cried as a teenager, i've even straight up openly wept much like Peter was doing, but that's definitely awkward enough and weird enough of a cry that it's worth a sin. Hell, it SOUNDED fake as hell even without the overdramatic way he buried his face in Steve's chest. If i were directing this i'd have felt the need to do another.

[@Schnappss]

@@Silentbob1494 nah I cry exactly spot on to that man lmao.

[@allyr4270]

biggest sin is toni collette not getting nominated for an oscar

[@jbvader721]

That was one of the biggest snubs of this year.

[@laughsngasps]

Ally R fact

[@AdamqK]

I can watch her in about anything, and consider her one of the finest actresses going, but the constant screaming and scenery-chewing here is not her finest hour.

[@brodyschum]

@@AdamqK you really wouldn't scream and cry if you saw a child's (and in this case, her daughter's) decapitated head on the ground? You wouldn't go crazy in those situations. She did a very nice job, but of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and I respect yours. Have a wonderful day!

[@AdamqK]

@@brodyschum There are five stages of grief. She did one. Throughout the entire film. Surprising for an actress capable of such subtlety, but when you're in a film in which everything comes to screaming (quite literally) halt for a shouting, yelling family therapy session (just when I kept thinking, "Ah, NOW things will start getting interesting") that, I guess, the timbre of things. Have a marvellous day!

[@TheKingDagon108]

you didnt even take a sin of for the amazing acting when Peter just realized he accidently got his sister killed *ding*

[@mikolaj9867]

Viewers are never right though **Ding**

[@Dancerama6]

Did we watch the same performance from the former Naked Brother? An Oscar is not in his future.

[@terrycrews6179]

He just sat there? How is that good acting LMAOOOOO

[@lakeitron]

@@terrycrews6179 Thats realism. He was in complete shock. How would you react?

[@holly2011]

Terry Crews that’s how real people act. At least most people. It’s unbelievably common to be pretty much paralyzed in fear after something traumatic.

[@rghmf]

they not having a epipen every second of the day is the biggest sin of the movie everyone with severe allergy carries one

[@yourname7176]

i dont :/ havent taken it out of the house in months

[@stinkynorsk5883]

@@yourname7176 I get that you're suicidal but damn

[@flyguy8814]

It’s feasible, I once misplaced my epipen and it took months for me to notice it was missing. Luckily I noticed when looking for something else, not when having a reaction.

[@flyguy8814]

I thought Charlie not asking absolutely everyone “does this have nuts” was strange, though. She’s 13, I knew to do that when I was 7.

[@charlieschurk]

I have a peanut allergy and I’ve never carried one with me, most people are smart enough to check before they eat

[@RockinThaSoLows]

I’m taking away the sin for the 1.5 minutes of crying. That was actually heartbreaking and made my cold dead heart feel something.

[@madelyntillman439]

It was so unsettling. A lot of this movie was actually super disturbing and it shook me.

[@brennaw.3345]

The first time I saw this the scene felt like it lasted forever. I’m usually not bothered by horror movies, but this almost made me leave the theater. So good, but so hard to watch.

[@saturn469]

it’s not even heartbreaking, it’s funny

[@cl0wnc0rps34]

@@saturn469 Careful you might cut yourself on that edge

[@30secondstomarslyric]

I cried so much :(

[@raptorsquad3081]

You didn’t remove a sin for the camera’s zoom in on Peter’s gut wrenching expression after Charlie is decapitated. That was a brilliant scene

[@sparkonyx1075]

People really look and act like that in real life after they witness something mind breaking like that, iv seen it happen, its quite horrible and i think thats why that scene was so powerful, its just feels real.

[@g355150]

@@sparkonyx1075 very real. Great acting throughout this movie.

[@bakoe7604]

RuleofVicus Can you please go ahead and give examples?

[@bakoe7604]

RuleofVicus This movie was incredible.

[@sparkonyx1075]

@RuleofVicus I mean at least that scene in particular was unique i dont think i can name another movie that portrayed traumatic shock like that, otherwise 90 % of people in the comments wouldnt be mentioning that scene.

[@LioF20]

That mother’s scream when she found dead Charlie was 100000000 times scarier than the rest of the exorcist crap

[@TheCrazyfighter19]

Nigel Fletcher bull. Fucking. SHIIIIT

[@colinloughran4148]

Nigel Fletcher beautiful acting bro, also the mom in the top corner or the ant was the scariest part for me

[@vladimirhorowitz]

Not a chance.

[@thatgirl0303]

Hard disagree. I didn't have to cover my face with a pillow when she screamed. The other stuff, however...

[@dylr6752]

Agreed. That was borderline traumatic she sounded so excruciating

[@ashleyplace7395]

It broke my heart when Peter was screaming “Please Mommy!” Over and over.

[@lenore_evermore]

it's almost like all of us can relate to him in that moment. It feels too real

[@demonicoymonstruoso]

I laughed my ass off

[@yagirl177]

@@demonicoymonstruoso wow so edgy and cool

[@samcolton943]

@@yagirl177 It blows my mind how people can find that scene funny. Peter has literally been through the most ungodly emotional shit after Charlie dying, seeing his dad's burnt corpse, and his possessed mother chasing him. No wonder his mind was fucked and for a moment it was that of a child's calling for his mother as a last resort.

[@finnkanatzar8664]

I can see it but he went through the worst shit he could’ve so not funny just sad

[@MeredithHagan]

Paimon had been in Charlie since she was a baby nursed nursed by her grandmother, which is why she had the “cluck” compulsion and was always building her “toys” with empty pill bottles and bird heads (because putting a head on a new body is basically what Paimon does - like the mannequin with Charlie’s head in the treehouse). Before Charlie, the grandmother had tried to put Paimon into her own son, Annie’s brother Charles, but he mistook the voice of Paimon as schizophrenia and killed himself. After Charlie’s death, Paimon sort of hangs out haunting Peter, but Peter’s too strong for a direct possession (“Peter! GET OUT!”) , so he arranges for the dad to die in front of Annie so that she is finally weak enough to possess. It is seeing his father burned and his mother decapitate herself that traumatized him enough to throw himself from the attic window, and as his soul leaves his body Paimon is finally able to take it for himself.

[@ara-pf5zx]

Meredith Hagan I totally agree for the most part, but one pedantic thing I’d say is that Annie’s brother was definitely aware of what his mum was doing, explaining the “putting people inside of him” group therapy comment, but was perhaps recognised as being schizophrenic, thus dismissed by other people when in reality he was begging for help.

[@swachchhandadahal260]

Good. But is there a reason why you commented this? You wanted people to know how well you've understood the movie or something?

[@Eliasysidroramirezjr]

Going into depth like this makes me want a prequel

[@sirprize275]

Swachchhanda Dahal It’s called “expressing your opinion” which is kinda the purpose behind the KZbin comment section

[@swachchhandadahal260]

My apologies.. I didn't realize she is actually expressing her opinion about the flaws in the movie..

[@rentonlast]

The moment when he was driving fast and his little sisters head got knocked off by the pole,and he’s just sittin there wanting to look but NOT WANTING TO at the same time is one of the most chilling moments in movies of 2018 hands down👏🏾👏🏾

[@katwebbxo]

Definitely. I felt like my breathing and my heart stopped at that moment waiting to see what he would do.

[@dinimueter9961]

I think i was never shocked more by a movie😱

[@Bloodhurl67]

@chrissy christoff Cause maybe "liveleak" stuff is real shit and this is just fiction and not real. Ever think of that?

[@kellyalves756]

I totally would have taken a sin off for that.

[@shespartan]

@chrissy christoff because is fiction? come on in other times it was a show to go see real people kill each other, being decapitated, hung, etc. Those were some more violent times, nothing compared with these actual days

[@isolatedalien5696]

I think I was actually red faced pissed when I first watched the movie and she sent her young daughter with her high school son to a high school party. I blame her really.

[@kylebreedlove1360]

Same, at least partially. That's why at the dinner scene she gets up to leave when Peter mentions that. She knows she was at fault too.

[@Andrea1542]

I cant imagine a teen boy not arguing really against taking his 13 year old sister to a party where he wanted to hook up and get high. If they were closer in age, maybe. Charlie was so so young and backwards. Any teen boy would argue, and I think even Charlie would fight harder to not go.

[@tristezzalamentoluciano265]

I'm a huge fan of this film and I know that Peter told Annie he was going to a BBQ get together for school kids. So...idk.

[@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333]

Well, it’s likely that the demon forced her to do that.

[@anna8328]

SAME!

[@tayla4605]

I’m watching this because I’m too scared to watch the actual movie

[@she-hulkSMASHES]

Tayla good call. This movie gave me a couple of sleepless nights.

[@Garry_Gary]

Adriana Ramirez Davila same

[@rpsyco]

It's really not that scary. The movie's boring mostly for the first hour and a half, and the last 30 minutes are laughably dumb.

[@t.e.m.p4786]

It’s fucked up, watched it today and nearly died

[@detenatron.3608]

@@rpsyco I agree.

[@ryanmuller1994]

Charlie's Head: Aight, imma head out

[@kaitlynlozano5104]

pun intended?

[@kaitlynlozano5104]

“Head out” HAH

[@ryanmuller1994]

@@kaitlynlozano5104 didn't even realize there was an subtle pun there, yes now that is le pun

[@theokay1]

Saw that scene coming from miles away

[@ryanmuller1994]

Curtis Kumfer Obvislee Charlie dod not see that pole from miles away

[@grayson7677]

The actors in this movie did great tho u got to admit it

[@lisatrappedmeinygsbasement848]

No just no....😠😠

[@mendallion967]

@@lisatrappedmeinygsbasement848 lmao it was some of the best acting of 2018 which other movie had better acting?

[@LucasR013]

XXX the only bad acting if you could call it “bad” was Peter’s crying in some scenes that’s it

[@xplosives1752]

Fat Pie Wolff was great when he realized he killed his sister

[@nen_gravestnes6445]

He literally did

[@soibhan7766]

Sister? Dead Cult? Controlling Friends? Fake god?in need of vessel Son?Possessed Hotel?Trivago

[@nashs.4206]

Lmfaoo nice XD

[@amandagardner2695]

💀🤣🤣🤣

[@saml815]

Dick? Out

[@tarannumferdous5100]

Grape?Surgery

[@RegularBlank]

Movie?Sinned

[@AlexPerez-tv1zg]

Everything wrong with hereditary: *The fact that Toni Colette didn’t get an Oscar*

[@alvexok5523]

Toni Colette was great in this movie. She was also good in "In her shoes" and "Little miss sunshine", she's very convincing actress.

[@JohnMarston1900]

Or at least get nominated

[@AlexPerez-tv1zg]

@@JohnMarston1900 yeah

[@sup4777]

Oscars are bs tho

[@emiliebrooklyn3963]

the oscar don't like horror movies

[@HeyCarson]

Everybody is saying that Charlie should have known better to ask about nuts. The girl did not say a total of 20 words in the whole movie and probably had terrible social anxiety; I highly doubt she would have asked. And it is also clearly set up that she loves chocolate so much that she often forgets to even check if there is nuts in her chocolate bars.

[@ara-pf5zx]

Carson Wilson also since she’d basically BEEN the spirit of Paimon since birth, charlie has no real identity. why would she stop herself from what Paimon and the cult had been planning all along? sure she was struggling when she was choking but that’s pretty much a human instinct- but I don’t think she had a soul so could not protect herself from danger in that way

[@random_meta]

@Frisbee 'n' Cookies In a different comment section someone explained that Paimon can possess others when they are about to die, or when they are mentally broken. For instance, the mother in the film claims she gave Charlie when she was a baby to the grandma, so she would feed her. The grandmother, had already tried putting Paimons spirit in her son and husband, so she starved baby Charlie to the point of almost dying, so that Paimon could take over. Charlie was long dead.. Its just that the demon prefers a male body (god, knows why) that this whole movie took place

[@matthewgriffith6257]

Carson Wilson and she was possessed by a demon

[@hashmash12]

She didnt have an allergy u see her eat nuts. It was just a device to kill the girl

[@Joe-ey3qt]

She was eating Penut M&M's when she was busy building her creepy toys in the bedroom

[@christianzimm7597]

Reverse sins should've been given with Peter's scenes in the classroom. Seeing his reflection smiling at him evily, and especially the possession scene were both fucking terrifying!

[@pshceluver2899]

And the fact that the actor for Peter actually slammed his head on that desk! Amazing dedication should of been recognized 😩

[@ohohvalerie]

A lot of cheap sins here. You know this movie was legendary

[@diogocosta238]

@@billie3752 name a better horror movie from the last 20 years. No bullshit

[@diogocosta238]

@@billie3752 Yeah, I knew you were delusional

[@billie3752]

@@diogocosta238 the American funny games, saw, Frankensteins army was fun Horror movies have been on the decline tho And hereditary is evidence of that; it's a good horror movie(6.5/10 I'd say) but everyone's praising it bc there hasnt really been anything amazing recently

[@diogocosta238]

@@billie3752 I don't agree. I think Hereditary is so good that it could stand as a normal movie (no horror) on it's own because of its acting

[@billie3752]

@@diogocosta238 yeah Toni's acting was phenomenal

[@Penguinz072]

Ok so my theory for 10:38 is that earlier when Annie tried to burn the book it set her in fire so that it would make her think that it would burn her. And Paimon knew that she would get her husband and stuff to thrown it in so she could try and sacrifice herself. But that was a trick to get rid of the STRONGEST person in the family so that it would be easier to get to Annie then to Peter because Paimon wants a male vessel.

[@thanos-themadtitan6277]

"GEEET OOUUUT!" Wrong horror movie. *ding

[@cosmicwishbone]

9:34 Awesome touch of detail with the kid filming in the background while Peter has his freak out in class!

[@maxmagana6268]

my man couldn't find actual sins

[@billyholmesiii5403]

max magana FACTS

[@alannawolf]

Exactly what I was thinking...

[@cbb3480]

But they did

[@yeehawjigsaw6579]

@@cbb3480 I- 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@yeehawjigsaw6579]

@@cbb3480 Now you sound even more stupid. HE MEANT GENUINE SINS!

[@amnahalmohtadi6116]

!!! something I only just noticed the 4th time round watching this film. She doesn't read out the words from the paper because she has already read them out before waking up steve and Peter! After the dream fight scene between Annie and Peter and she wakes up in bed gasping, it cuts to a pan of her bedroom and steve is asleep in bed. If you turn up the volume to the loudest setting and press your ear up against the speaker, you can hear in the background of the scene Annie reading out the names written on the paper! and you can see there is a light shining out from underneath the bathroom?/closet door? not sure what that room is but yeah she's in there with the candle lit and she reads out the words Satony, Paimon, something pandemonium and another word I've forgotten. But yeah super cool never noticed it before and always wondered why and how she was able to conduct the seance without getting things started like Joan said she needed to do. but pause the film right after you listen because you don't want your ear up against the speaker listening to her whisper to Peter in the next shot.

[@flutterg1035]

Thank you for pointing that out!

[@oliverbridges875]

I've also noticed that the word Pandemonium was written on a wall in the house at some point! Perhaps this is to prove that whatever these forces are have been present throughout the entire period that the family has lived in the house?

[@jordyn2632]

some of these sins were just straight up dumb. like the minute of Annie crying was raw emotion, i thought it was the perfect mix of guilt, anxiety, and fear.

[@gonzacollao]

This channel is satire

[@unblorbosyourshows9635]

@@gonzacollao It being satire doesn't negate every criticism.

[@gonzacollao]

@@unblorbosyourshows9635 no, but it explains why some sins (if not every one of them) are so dumb. Like if extreme realism and verisimilitude were absolutely mandatory in a work of fiction...

[@johnfritz2310]

Alot of the sins are just bs. If you watch the videos some sins will deadass be "scene dose not contain a lap dance". Although some sins have to do with plot holes of the movie (like how did Annie's body phase into the attic at the end), most of them are just goofs.

[@johns3937]

@@gonzacollao since when did it switch to satire? it's always been serious. but now he tries to find things that arent wrong wrong

[@CHIOTIS1821]

9:16 there are some theories that the whole movie takes place in one of Annie's miniatures, and that could be the glare from the magnifying class she has.

[@BradySchall]

Yeah that’s one of the worst theories for this movie

[@azurdlywisterious]

@@BradySchall then name a better one

[@WalrusTash]

@@azurdlywisterious My opinion is the whole film is shown as a dollhouse because it's clear that Annie uses the doll houses as a way to "take control" of situations in her life, just like how the cult and King Paimon is constantly taking control of their lives. It wouldn't be surprising if the magnifying glass motif is used but instead of Annie's magnifying glass it's King Paimons as he moves the chess pieces to enact his plan to get put into Peter's body.

[@johnfritz2310]

i think the doll house serves more like a symbolism of how the whole family is just a pawn of Paimon

[@kekkadakeda9468]

@@azurdlywisterious there are several grounded theories about the light being a symbol for paimon guiding people to where he wants them

[@Choteron3]

Not removing a sin for the decapitation scene is a sin

[@LordHoward]

Ikr

[@randomfools808]

I think a sin should have been removed for Peters reaction. That was the most grueling part.

[@MidconStudios]

EddieWilliamBrooks I mean it was an amazing performance by Toni Collette, but my god it was super dragged out.

[@Deviant69]

TRIS *sin

[@IDewWork]

@@MidconStudios Was not dragged out lol.

[@jayymack1993]

Guys, guys, remember in that "cinema sins on cinema sins video", they talked about how they sometimes sin films they really like. I'm sure this is one 🤞🏾

[@Arickdesu]

10:38 , when Annie threw the book into the fire the first time, King Paimon wanted to make her think that she is bound to that book. Therefor making her think that the book will only burn her. But quite the opposite. I believe that it doesn't matter who threw the book, King Paimon can burn anyone he wants. Only if the Book is burned, he can cast the fire onto anyone else in the room.

[@danwilliams2551]

King Paimon enters a host when they are vulnerable is what the book in the workshop states, so I think letting the mom think she will burn to death and then her husband burning in front of her caused her so much shock and horror that THAT was the moment she could be possessed...plus Steve was about to get the police involved in the situation. Double whammy.

[@vitordias4700]

There are a lot of sins in this that are just "I didn't get the hints the movie was giving me". For example: The random words written all over the house, are the phonetic pronunciation of the chant that the cultist gives to the mom, hinting that the Granma had chanted that to Charlie so many times that it was somewhere inside her mind... You can hear the lady shout them from across the road before Paimon tries to take Peter's body at school. Granma had no actual milk, Paimon takes over people who are very near death, she let Charlie starve to almost death so Paimon could enter her as a newborn. Afterwards she fed her from a bottle, as shown in the pictures. There are hints that she also starved her own husband trying to do the same. The random shit over the table scene is there to show that the cultists used dioramas of situations as ritual focus, and was why Charlie had learned from her granma to make that kind of effigy (her creepy toys), and that might be why Toni Collete learned to make miniatures in the first place. Paimon tricks Toni Collete with the book to completely break her mind so he can possess her, first making her think that somehow the book is important (it's not), that if she tries to burn it, she will burn with it (because she was the one who made the pact by reciting the chant, she believes they are connected, but can't bring herself to commit suicide in order to burn the book), so she tries to get help from the husband, effectively asking him to kill her, thinking that doing so will save Peter, but when instead the husband burns, she breaks and paimon takes over.

[@arinsabrina]

That's very interesting, but I'm still confused about what causes the husband to burn when she tossed the journal to the fireplace

[@IlSH2]

damn, i didn't catched that tony collecte's job of making miniature might be inspired by his mother making those creepy dolls. Kind of obvious if you think abou it

[@kellyalves756]

arinarryn Random demon nastiness.

[@zephaniahgrey8760]

I didn't catch any of that, but then again, maybe that's because it just wasn't done very well, and I don't care to watch this movie 50 times to try to dissect it's hidden meaning, because while technically capable as far as film making goes, it just wasn't that fun to watch.

[@adamloudermilk2919]

arinarryn pretty much because - as a demon king - Paimon just wants to cause suffering. He deceived Annie by making her BELIEVE she was tied to the book when in reality Paimon was just controlling everything the entire time. He burned her husband immediately to cause that emotional suffering to make her break.

[@adrianvalido2070]

Liftoach Pandemonium means “Open up Hell”. Liftoach means “to open up” Pandemonium is Latin for “many demons” and is the namesake for the capital of Hell in John Milton’s “Paradise Lost”. That’s the beauty of Ari Asters writing and direction, he doesn’t give you all of the answers because he wants you to dive deeper, and create curiosity around his films.

[@gabriellaberman]

It works, too! I saw Hereditary for the first time about a year ago and still think about it about once a week. I feel like I’ve watched every single video about it on KZbin and STILL find new things I didn’t know before. He’s a genius

[@kingvamp.]

@@gabriellaberman im doing that rn :D

[@safsren]

what I liked about this movie is that for most of it, you as the audience aren't sure if Annie is crazy or if it's actual demonic possession which is why I believe they don't show you Annie's first attempt at the seance

[@tone1245]

Peter didn’t get possessed cause the mom didn’t let the grandma in his early life smh y’all pay attention

[@kingayy9267]

True but, with the far reach of the cult, it's strange it took thirteen years to get back to Peter

[@Spaceysgurl]

@@kingayy9267 they all tried. Joan's son AND grandson DIED too 😉😉

[@Mardigraz718]

And that actually works for you?! It's a spirit for God's sake!

[@evarobson2973]

@@Spaceysgurl no paimon needs the human host to be someone in leigh's bloodline aka annie charlie or peter (with peter being ideal bc he's male) so the cult wouldn't have used any other members families. i'd assume joan was most likely lying about her son and grandson just to get annie to do the seance - in the scene just before it when annie runs into her in the car park you can see in her car boot she's just bought a chalk board like the one the grandson writes on, suggesting the seance was fake

[@b-65jimenamariarosalessali50]

@@kingayy9267 since I saw the movie, I investigated more about Paimond, his favorite hosts are teenage males, but he takes females when he's in a really weak state. And Paimond didn't get inside Peter directly when Charlie died 'cause he needs a Queen to guide him to male bodies. So, Ellen get possessed by Paimond and transfered to Charlie (feeding her) but when Charlie died he stayed like in a "Limbo", so when Annie was her weakest mentally point she get possessed, so Annie could torment her own child, so he can go really mentally insane and get possessed by Paimond. That's what actually Ellen did with Annie's brother, she tormented him enough to get possessed but she went too far and he committed suicide. I wish I explained it clear, sorry my English

[@ScarlettJ1221]

Do everything wrong with Bird Box

[@ლ.ლ-ნ7ძ]

ScarlettP Netflix will probably strike it down within minutes, BUT FUCK EM

[@gamerboy_ytboss1384]

good idea

[@ryancollins6839]

@@ლ.ლ-ნ7ძ Netflix will welcome it. More people talking about Birdbox is a good thing for Netflix.

[@nailsarelife]

I don't think he even does EWW videos on Netflix movies.

[@yagirl177]

It was shown in theaters though

[@looney1023]

I wanted 5 sins removed for the decapitation scene. 1 for Alex Wolff's ptsd, 1 for Toni Collette's shrieking, 1 for Gabriel Byrne's silent coping while trying to help his wife, and 2 for Ari Aster's balls for killing Charlie so horrifically and then showing her MANGLED, DECAPITATED HEAD crawling with ants.

[@beatrice0610]

Fucking awesome film.

[@ZR38315]

Fuckin 20 should’ve been taken off for her crying after the death. That was some of the best acting of the year

[@brendenbaughman662]

No you If you didn’t think The Witch or Heredetary were top tier modern horror movies, what DO you consider to be good examples of modern horror?

[@ZR38315]

Brenden A. Baughman I really like hereditary but wasn’t a huge fan of the witch. Idk if you’d quite consider it “horror” per se but I think Us was a damn near perfect movie

[@ZR38315]

No you if you enjoyed get out you’ll probably have a good time with Us

[@Hraesvelgr44]

This movie is the kind that makes you sprint up the stairs when you turn off the lights

[@yorshka6955]

Uhm, no

[@8Tproducer]

@@yorshka6955 um yes, nigga.

[@yorshka6955]

@@8Tproducer i watched it and it was boring and made no sense

[@z_.v]

@@yorshka6955 Low IQ

[@8Tproducer]

@@yorshka6955 ok allow me to explain. You wake up at midnight, and you get the munchies, so so go downstairs to your kitchen and grab a snack or two. And then you walk up the stairs and for SOME REASON, you feel as if there was a demon breathing on your back, so what does any human do, fuckin run.

[@B3RyL]

The reason why it took so long for Paimon to posses Peter is because clearly this was the best opportunity for that to happen. Paimon is described in various grimoires as having the ability to see all of the events in the world, answer any question the summoner asks, and even see into the past and the future. With that in mind, we can stipulate that when the cultists asked Paimon how they could assist him in acquiring a male body, he simply told them the exact series of future events that will lead to Paimon possessing Peter. It's a shame the movie doesn't make this a little bit more clear.

[@altgirlpapi]

I think that's the best part of the movie- it's not clear about it and everything's subtle, like the writing on the walls are inscriptions which can be found in the Goetia. I didn't watch Hereditary until a few years after it came out. My buddy who knew me very well and the things I was into said I should watch it, and he said "although a lot of people love this movie and although you're a horror fan, YOU specifically will enjoy this movie out of all of them." I didn't understand what he meant, didn't watch any trailers, just jumped into it. Once I started seeing the symbology, the inscriptions, everything started making sense, and I applaud A24 for doing their research and not spelling everything out for the audience.

[@MrJessekramer]

7:08 i thought it was pretty obvious they didn't show the first try because you could interpret this movie as her going crazy, yaknow due to her heritage

[@MrJessekramer]

@Paul Turnbloom ikr!

[@shimsham8887]

I guess you could say it's...hereditary

[@lulumnguni9616]

​@@shimsham8887I see what you did there

[@HTPCYMC]

That nut allergy is absolutely nuts

[@danielsappel9552]

You tried, buddy.....you tried

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

Seeing you 4 times

[@vAqeii]

@@danielsappel9552 No, you tried

[@danielsappel9552]

@@vAqeii holy shit

[@marcoferreira3832]

Leave

[@Whoa_Oasis]

I love reading all the comments that are angry people who think this is a legitimate film review channel and not satire

[@grumpy_roo]

Fr tho. This channel isn't meant to be taken like that. It's all for shits n' giggles and it's really hilarious people think they're legit criticizing lmao. The dude's got some funny commentary like c'mon

[@katlyn6928]

Last Gen Richtofen see but it used to be more real. Don’t get me wrong I still love the channel but three or four years ago the sins actually made since. It was a genuine look at the movies and removing a sin was a big deal and he actually went in to special things the movie did. NOW it’s satire and for shits and giggles but it wasn’t always like that

[@Whoa_Oasis]

@@katlyn6928 I've been watching this channel since around 2012. This page has always been about satire. Of course there are some legitimate sins here and there but for almost every video, its all for good fun.

[@katlyn6928]

@@Whoa_Oasis the jokes aren’t much different, I agree. I think it’s the ratio that’s different now. Before the amount of genuine sins were more noticeable but now they’re drowned out by the jokes. And it definitely was never like an in depth movie channel that really talked about the movie but there are some videos where most of this sins are sex or poop jokes. Childish jokes like that weren’t as common a couple years ago. And it’s definitely worse in some videos than others, yk? Again, I think the channel is still great tho lol

[@Whoa_Oasis]

@@katlyn6928 What?

[@bangtanlove6811]

The scene when she bangs her head against the attic door is super super SUPER creepy 😰

[@Bloodhurl67]

It is very fucking creepy.

[@deathbystars4999]

I had nightmares for days after seeing that

[@bangtanlove6811]

@@deathbystars4999 yeah... and The sound starts before you know what it is .. I thought she was hitting the door with something..but not her freaking head😆

[@Bloodhurl67]

@@bangtanlove6811 What I didn't understand was why did the possessed mom just go and close the damn attic door?

[@deathbystars4999]

cyber girl 83 same! How inhumanly fast she does it is so terrifying

[@lucadorsay242]

Toni Collette's extraordinary performance makes up for at least 80 sins

[@saijay8309]

@@Mo-wi8go Dude what?

[@leeh3568]

@Muhammad. Idiot

[@ChrisMiller-ix3kh]

@MadelineTopper That's a stretch

[@toffee2415]

Cam defiantly deserves a nomination.

[@chudifrank6493]

5:58 that sound still shocks me

[@Batannn]

What is it with this sound? Had it got a special meaning?

[@Kingslayer116]

@@Batannn its how paimon communicates

[@bangtanlove6811]

Then watch it during the day not night it takes away the scare atmosphere .. it's amazing don't miss it

[@jynxycats]

@@Batannn Watch the movie, it's actually legit good, don't ruin it anymore from comments here :P

[@Yamifira]

i half expected at that moment to hear ugandan knuckles ask if she knew da wae

[@Mariamango700]

This honestly was one of the most deeply scarring movies I've ever watched, I watched it in cinema when it came out and it still haunts me to this day. It was fking brilliant but so terrifying, one of the best horror movies I've ever seen

[@faceripper77]

So good but so fked up im extremely reluctant to ever watch it again and im a grown ass man

[@squarepants848]

@@faceripper77 me 2

[@atharputra538]

@@faceripper77 this movie is awesome, but its just so stressful i cant watch it a second time

[@two2truths]

@@faceripper77 me 3

[@famco_inc737]

Tony Collette and Alex Wolf deserved an oscar nom for this movie. They both blew me away!

[@mynameissarah5117]

Agreed they were amazing!

[@allismiff]

He did take 3 sleeping pills so, that’s probably why he didn’t wake up.

[@danwilliams2551]

It's frustrating watching these vids and seeing something clocked just because the viewer didn't understand. But like, the clip of him downing 3 pills even plays in this vid, they're asking things and also playing the answer for it XD

[@allismiff]

Dan Williams yes it’s concluded in this video but he adds a sin for him not waking up during the scene where he’s sleeping. It’s not unreasonable that someone wouldn’t wake up from noise after taking three sleeping pills.

[@treehavn]

@@allismiff whyd you type that? you are saying the same thing he just did

[@jcloud96]

ytu

[@Tartharus]

I'm not familiar with the "child in a horror film that has an allergy that will factor in the plot later" cliche.

[@kingayy9267]

The Culkin kid in _Signs_ has asthma and the little sister has OCD. That's just one movie I can recall though

[@flyguy8814]

Yeah, it stood out as unique to me. I’ve never seen realistic deathly allergies in another movie, now that I think about it.

[@JustKelso1993]

There are quite a few.

[@Tartharus]

@@JustKelso1993 Yes! Even I can remember watching at least 2 horror films that have kids with allergies, but I barely remember what they are. That's why I'm unsure if it can be classified as cliche, or just a plot device.

[@JustKelso1993]

@@Tartharus Fair. Probably more of a plot device but a very cliche one lol

[@UserInterface00]

1. Toni Collette appearing in Peter’s room on the corner ceiling 2. Toni Collette had the most freakishly scary float scene across the ceiling 3. Toni Collette banging her head upside down on the ceiling But the scariest of them all is the Academy not even acknowledging her performance in the movie with an Oscar nom.

[@douglasmcdonald6967]

If everyone asks for Bird Box to be sinned, he will do it. I kinda wanna see that sinned, how about you?

[@Mo-wi8go]

I want to sin in a camel's butt

[@douglasmcdonald6967]

@@Mo-wi8go do you believe in and support Sharia Law? or are you intelligent?

[@Mo-wi8go]

@@douglasmcdonald6967 I just like to throw rocks

[@whatjake7898]

Overrated movie, it doesnt need any more attention so I hope they never do it.

[@kareemsc9913]

I’d like to see birdboxed sinned. Overrated as hell

[@dan2002df]

3:04 Jeremy refers to peter as ‘charlie’ Cinema sins sin counter: 1

[@storijoelle9905]

its intentional and essential to the plot lol

[@NoahKnudson]

@@storijoelle9905 a fuck up that makes sense

[@officersully2740]

@@storijoelle9905 it's cuz he becomes paiman and he is foreshadowing and shit

[@alexisrose71]

"In Abramelin, Paimon's powers include knowledge of past and future events, clearing up doubts, making spirits appear, creating visions, acquiring and dismissing servant spirits, reanimating the dead for several years and flight." His powers clear up a lot of questions.

[@aquicha8168]

That actually does clear up a lot of things, thanks.

[@LC05]

So if part of his power is knowledge of the past, why did they need to explain to him where he was and that they had to correct the previous female body at the end?

[@PanPhobicProdigy]

Which power allows him to light anybody on fire?

[@thegirlinquestion]

@@PanPhobicProdigy he is a demon known as the king of mischief, so you could see it as paimon fucking with annie and burning steve her husband, instead of her. dude's just messing around

[@paulabagur2856]

Has anyone noticed that Jeremy calls Peter Charlie TWICE? "Mom goes to incredible lengths to make sure Charlie doesn't drink by making him take his WAY younger sister to a high school party" (Charlie IS the sister!) Also, when Jeremy mentions that "Annie tried to set Charlie on fire once" (referring to Peter). *DOUBLE DING!*

[@chantalelliott8732]

Dammit lol...I shouldve known someone else caught that haha! I commented before reading the comments.

[@lady_stog]

I noticed that too!

[@absynthe7904]

Incorrect. 7:52 he says "Annie nearly set HE and Charlie on fire..." So your second ding is invalid. The first one, though, I noticed that when I watched the video the first time through, too lol

[@Andrea1542]

@@absynthe7904 exactly, she had tried to burn both peter and charlie, who at the time were sharing a room.

[@officersully2740]

He's part of the cult that's why

[@aAryan0309]

I literally just watched this video to make sure they removed a sin for Toni Collettes FANTASTIC performance at the dinner scene and since they did I’m satisfied

[@NewMessage]

Creepy people staring at you across the street of the schoolyard is the most realistic part in the movie.

[@myburn6733]

childhood much?

[@raydromeda3777]

I feel like essential in horror films to show the premeditation of what's going to happen

[@melodyconte]

As someone with a nut allergy, this is the biggest sin. When I was as young as ten, I didn't even bother asking. I just avoided dessert like the plague.

[@willthomas2310]

Melody Conte I hear u but i was younger then u and the girl in the movie, and it was a few times i didn't ask. Thankfully those allergic reactions weren't anything severe.

[@LC05]

Paul Turnbloom Which only adds to "why the fuck would her mom want her to go to the party?"

[@celi132]

ElsaLovesNailPolish her mom wanted her dead

[@anthonyebony3464]

Were you a centuries old demon at birth hell bent on taking over your brothers body too?

[@baronterror]

@@LC05 right. Biggest sin in the movie

[@genibeanie]

petition to change “movie sim timer” to “movie timer” because we know how long the video is but i wanna know what time in the movie we’re at

[@mcfrickenwatcher195]

yeah

[@GageB10100]

That is actually very true

[@chee5o]

*signs petition*

[@camryneicher564]

You had a sin that asked why it took 13 years to get Peter for King Paimon and then your next sin was literally talking about how impossible it would've have been to execute that plan because all of the details it involved..

[@Nakna_ankaN]

"What made the ball fall from the wall?" Maybe the bell that fell into the well? The man who ran into a van? The fox that locks the box? The cat that sat in a hat? The kid that hid the lid? The twins that wins at cinemasins?

[@greenleaf6218]

Saw this movie a while back but that "cluck scare" bit still made me jump and pause the vid for at least 10 minutes before I could continue watching.

[@akirastcroix]

i literally paused the movie and collected myself

[@erinpicken6435]

I like that they still used a few jump scares, but they were still emotionally charged rather than plain old ones.

[@jeffboyd8139]

Seriously? Jump scare sounds are the lamest shit and shouldn't ever be in horror movies.

[@deadshot0908]

@@jeffboyd8139 ok ceo of horror movies

[@Jessica-kv2ob]

Same

[@wisegirlandseaweedbrain250]

That crying scene should NOT be a sin...! It was such a terrific acting and absolutely depicts pain of a mother who's daughter dies in such a horrific way.

[@duval1441]

These sins were pretty lame. I thought the minute of Collette crying was very brutal and contributed greatly to her loss of Charlie. I feel like this channel is just making up sin factors on trending movies for views. Doesn’t seem genuine anymore.

[@meganhale5258]

Duval Diamandis The crying was the most disturbing part of the movie, at least for me. I know it's a bit over the top but it felt so familiar. After my sister died very unexpectedly I remember my mom breaking down like Annie. It's one of the few times I had to turn off a movie. I watched the entire film a few days later but skipped that part because it seriously hurts my heart. What even is my comment? I need to go back to sleep so I can wake up and feel embarrassed for commenting.

[@blackrosebuttler037]

Exactly what I was thinking, that scene was amazing and heartbreaking, I also thought they where neit picking every single little thing they could from this movie, it didn't even make sense, it seems to forced or to try hard tbh.

[@purpledeadguy666]

Or like fact that he didn’t understand why Joan called Peter ‘Charlie’ at the end so he gave it a sin. Best part is he says it’s not explained and then it’s literally explained in the next clip he plays.

[@66billygunn]

The show is catching up with itself.

[@user-yj5bj8ke6c]

It's for comedy. The show is not to be taken seriously.

[@pdxlockpicker7796]

Steve combusted because Annie drenched the book in paint thinner.

[@CloudMountainJuror]

Damn. That makes perfect sense.

[@aashiv93]

I knew that paint thinner would be involved but why did his entire body catch fire suddenly?

[@h0lodm0966]

yeah thats why he got combusted as a whole.. but why him?

[@myrongaines6022]

@@aashiv93 The first time Annie tried burning the book, she didn't use paint thinner or throw it directly in the flame so it caught fire and started burning from the edges. The second time, she covered it in paint thinner and threw it directly in the flames so the entire thing was engulfed immediately. The way Annie and Steve catch fire mirror the way the book did.

[@stompchunkman4248]

"Gabriel Burn" Goddamn, that caught me off-guard. Made me giggle quite a bit.

[@pudgebl67]

Yeah... it was a good Byrne

[@mackielunkey2205]

The “United States Of Annie” joke was actually great. Nice job.

[@brodyschum]

No, no. That’s just realistic crying. You guys are so sensitive with acting. Tsk, tsk, tsk. I thought it was extremely real and added onto the grief of his character. I thought he did a phenomenal job. Anyone else in the world who has positivity? (Sorry, I had to edit this comment. It was redundant and that got on my nerves.)

[@beatrice0610]

Especially a scared teen; returning to their childhood state in a moment of fear. I'm sure lots of teens cry like this when confronted with the unknown.

[@Coco-hq8vt]

@@beatrice0610 I was just about to make the same point. The regression in his behavior is what strikes you the most. It's complete and raw fear, sadness, and confusion. I think it was a nice touch

[@DeclanCorey]

I've certainly cried a lot like Peter in real life situations that I couldn't handle, so I find it absolutely ridiculous that people harp on Alex's acting. It was phenomenal.

[@beatrice0610]

Declan Corey - I as well, and I'm about 19.

[@CrodolookslikeFrody]

I’m sorry, but the crying is 60% unrealistic and 40% realistic.

[@user-up8jj4wj4i]

The funny thing is, if they took all these sins into account and remade the movie it wouldn't be half as scary lmao

[@MaddieNiec]

But it's not scary though...

[@user-up8jj4wj4i]

@@MaddieNiec that's your opinion

[@MaddieNiec]

@@user-up8jj4wj4i 'Tis

[@YellawayHD]

Madcatter not immediately scary, no, more a psychological thriller. That said I was *very* wary of what was lurking in the corners of my room after watching it.

[@lautarofm1]

@@MaddieNiec it's more like the genre of Silent Hill 2 it's not scary, is worse, is like "Your Fucking Nightmares Comes True And You Cant Do Nothing About It"

[@danielfelix3927]

To be fair, Hereditary is one of the best horror movies around and the best in 2018, in my opinion. It has some brilliant suspense and psychological scenes and the entire movies has a creepy, unconfortable vibe about it. Plus, the plot depth and easter eggs are fantastic.

[@raidendudething6377]

Daniel Felix HAHAHAHA NO ITS NOT HAHAHA ITS TERRIBLE ITS A TERRIBLE MOVIE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@Alexa-pc6ux]

Whoever liked or defend this movie doesn't understand the meaning of "Horror". I almost shat in my pants due to laughing instead of being scared. Especially when the mom just flew into the tree house, yet Peter followed her to see himself getting worshipped for no fucking reason. People need to actually wake up. This isn't near to a good horror movie.

[@BubbleChicken3350]

Alexa lmao same I watched this with my mom and we couldn’t stop laughing through half of the scenes.

[@Alexa-pc6ux]

Grand Master Exactly. The only thing I kept watching this garbage because I wanted to know what happened at the end, and it turns out I wasted 2 hours just to see a boy getting worshipped. Such a joke!

[@jacobstaten2366]

Good one.

[@dannib.3348]

I see a lot of people pointing out Peter's scenes so can I just say I love Alex Wolff in anything that he does, and he's amazing in this movie. His crying is so full of trauma and fear and just like Annie he cries and screams like he's been through so much. His facial expressions in every scene is just amazing, and not to forget the desk scene where I think it was reported that he actually hurt himself (obviously he didn't actually slam his head and break his nose but i think he bruised something while filming that scene). He's honestly a very underrated actor.

[@VTPPGLVR]

Spider Annie. Spider Annie. Does whatever a spider canny.

[@phillyhippie]

Nooooo

[@wolfie1703]

Deborah L. IM CRYING THIS IS GOLD

[@bigtcastro104]

THE SCARIEST PART OF THE MOVIE-THE NAKED CULT MEMBERS

[@Nicole-jh9hr]

Fully agree!! They are the reason i had to stop watching the movie in the middle of the night & turn it back on in the day time in a well lit room lol

[@LorenzotheGreatt]

Those old naked people gave me a few sleepless nights lol

[@alexsobanko414]

Lmao that was like the least scariest part for me lol

[@alexsobanko414]

@Dylan Bundren yea maybe

[@yorshka6955]

It was the funniest part of the Movie in my opinion. When the Mother elevated slowly into the Treehouse i couldn't stop laughing. It was just silly

[@encrium6790]

The cluck sound gives me ptsd, thanks hereditary

[@MidconStudios]

I don’t know how peeps find that shit scary I think of Ugandan knuckles

[@iwassarcastic5282]

@@MidconStudios fr😂😂

[@vikkidonn]

My sister started doing that noise for like a week after I saw this and I immediately got anger Everytime. My mom was so confused

[@TwilitLugia]

Even before this movie that sound has always angered me, because I just hate that sound, so this movie was terrible and didn't scare me at all more than anger me.

[@ErebosGR]

You must have never been near kids before... Kids make that sound all the time.

[@Hannah-gc4cy]

Toni Collette's scream when she found her in the car and when she was wailing on the floor after DESTROYED me. I cried so hard I had to rewind it to watch it again and then pause it. It was amazing! She's a killer actress.

[@kellysnyder1405]

Annie rocking on the bedroom floor, screaming praying for death, that hit an emotional nerve. I did the very same many times after my mother died from a tragic accident

[@imhaiden8464]

This KZbin channel has ruined me, I was watching aquaman and all i could think about was what would cinema sins say about this and when i watched bird box all i was doing the entire moving was pointing out cliches and mistakes

[@g355150]

Bro. You aren't the only one. It's annoying, but I can't stop.

[@bachi5826]

I did one on of birdbox on my channel!! Check it out! 😂

[@landonle3308]

It hasn’t ruined you it made you a smarter person watching movies

[@mattfisher2428]

Im the same too, only i keep thinking of how each shot was filmed

[@raedwulf61]

You have stepped into the light.

[@Beetrice]

For me, because the movie doesn't show Annie's seance attempt, we're allowed to think that Annie is crazy. And it just leads us to not think this movie really is about a cult summoning a demon king.

[@haydencalhoun4869]

Stef I think that’s part of the genius of the movie, they set it up so that you could believe either one.

[@arianam6430]

@@haydencalhoun4869 I agree. I enjoy that nothing in this film makes sense. Its just pure madness- is the cult real or isnt it? Who knows. Is annie crazy or isnt she? Who knows. Is Charlie haunting them? Is the grandma? Is Paimon? It's like as soon as you start trying to figure out one thing, the film turns it on its head. Added with the pure horror of the family tragedies and how visceral their family drama was on top of that, it had me fucked up for a little bit afterward.

[@haydencalhoun4869]

Ariana M definitely feel the same. I always enjoy when horror movies make me feel the need to look things up afterwards. I think one of the things that enforces this is that when the dad dies (the only sane one in the family) is when everything truly spirals out of control.

[@arianam6430]

@@haydencalhoun4869 Same here! I love how even through the seance, you still couldn't trust Annie...until the dad burst into flames. So spooky. There's a documentary called Unseen about the recent Cleveland serial killer and a victim spoke about how she was attacked by the man in his home and, while trying to stay calm and figure out a way to escape, she walks by a bedroom and sees a beheaded, rotting corpse on the floor. When she described that, I could only think about Annie's mother rotting in the attic. 😳

[@haydencalhoun4869]

Ariana M I don’t know, I feel as if they set it up so that you could believe that she set him on fire

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Gmail totally gives you reply all even when one recipient

[@Bumblebee-hd6oi]

I'd to go and check but yeah, you're right. 😋

[@WordUnheard]

@@JulianFernandez Whoa! Bad ass alert! Calm down, kid, before someone reports you to your mommy.

[@christalcavanaugh]

Word Unheard what is wrong with you?

[@WordUnheard]

@@christalcavanaugh Some kid calls the starter of this thread a motherfucker for no reason, and you're asking what's wrong with ME? You need to get yourself some glasses.

[@christalcavanaugh]

Word Unheard uh huh uh huh I have glasses and you’re acting like a child

[@samthehypotheticaldad]

As someone who has spent their entire life with a family member who has a severe peanut AND tree nut allergy, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that there’s NO WAY that they wouldn’t leave anywhere without AT LEAST 2 Epi Pens. My sister to this day ALWAYS has two with her as well as a bottle of Benadryl, and my father always carries around an extra two in his backpack just in case.

[@paulderouen3997]

Great video byt some of these can be explained away by 1. Annie didn't really love Charlie 2. The cult was manipulating them (probably for at least the last 13 years) 3. Annie and Peter were both pretty much at psychotic break status when Paimon entered, that may be the "vulnerability" that was required. 4. Charlie is Paimon. Paimon is Charlie. No difference. As far as Paimon is concerned, it is a developmentally disabled 13 year old that is now in the body of her brother.

[@blairassani7595]

This movie was so set apart from any horror movies I’ve seen😭I wasn’t ready

[@breejames6323]

Blair Assani I had never heard of it or seen a trailer before seeing it , I had only seen the clip at the dinner table that’s all, so when watching the film I had no idea wth was happening

[@chantalelliott8732]

Agreed 100%

[@dixiiid3842]

it’s a masterpiece isn’t it! No relying on jump scares, the insanely good acting that seems to capture grief at its ugliest, the hints and Easter eggs, aw man it’s the movie I’m going to use as a reference for horror from now on

[@mcfrickenwatcher195]

yeah, no doubt the scariest movie ive seen

[@faceripper77]

Its tuff

[@mickmaxtube]

"What language is even that?" Best. Line. Ever. To be even handed, this is the poorest CinemaSIns clip I've seen.

[@roses1]

I fucking lost it the first time I heard that line😭do you have the time stamp for when it comes up in this vid?

[@Raven_Nivhaar]

@@roses1 I know this is late but 6:34

[@roses1]

Raven Nivhaar thanks u made my day lol

[@pig_cakes1368]

Woah I read that word for word as I heard it in the video

[@charlieschurk]

Agreed he gave the movie random sins that weren’t deserved

[@ItsRoronoaZoro]

The decapitation scene still gives me the chills no matter how many times I've seen it

[@itsbekasaur]

YUP

[@epilefissar]

Which one? The mother’s or the daughter’s?

[@faceripper77]

For me it was when he’s in the attic and the moms knocking non stop and the camera goes down and shows shes actually fking head butting the ceiling .... this move scarred me for life lol

[@ItsRoronoaZoro]

@@epilefissar the daughters

[@ItsRoronoaZoro]

@@faceripper77 ohh shit yeah that was creepy af

[@kumaola8877]

When did a child with food allergy become a cliché? And also the creep at the funeral shouldn’t count as a sin, it’s an important element to the plot. There’s plenty of more stuff you got wrong in this video, I just don’t got time to point them all out.

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

A 'child with a severe allergy that plays an important part in future drama' thing has been done a fair bit. It's usually set up innocuously like it was in this movie, with either someone shown/mentioning the double-checking of ingredients, or a warning given to someone regarding it. The dramatic portion involving the cliche is almost always it's a bit stupid, since anyone with a known history of severe allergies would have an epipen or they (or those around them) would know better than to eat food of questionable origin. Sometimes it's an incompetent/ignorant/unprepared caregiver (formerly absentee parent, overworked parent, sibling, or friend of some sort). It's usually played to make the one they're with 'realize what is really important' or something similar, as they panic about it. It's a subset to the general trope of 'irresponsible person's charge dies or nearly dies due to ignorance of risk, or neglect'; a rather broad trope in storytelling in general. In this case it's kind of a double-layer, since both the brother (who just wanted her out of the way and carelessly told her to eat some random treat), and the mother (who suspected the party wasn't going to be entirely aboveboard to begin with, but basically forced her son to take his little sister anyway) fit the end result; kid suffers allergic reaction, then actually dies, though the death wasn't directly the result of the first incident. It's a bit different in that respect.

[@kumaola8877]

So give me an example of any type of film or literature that has the use of allergies to set up in important turning point in the movie. BTW, thanks for the reply to my opinion, it was very in depth and thought out.

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

I've seen it a few times, but the only one I can recall offhand is 'The Game Plan'. (the movie with Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson) I thought of going into detail about it in my previous post, but it's not exactly a popular film and I didn't want to spoil an important plot point in it regardless. You asked though, so I'm mentioning it now. As I said, it's really more that it's a specific subset of a trope, a version of it that has been done enough times now that in some people's minds anyway, like myself and CinemaSins, think of it as a cliche. Any time I hear about a character (esp. a child) having an allergy or some other health issue that can lead to a dramatic result if something goes wrong due to ineptitude, ignorance or carelessness, I pretty much expect it to happen later on in the story. It's blatant foreshadowing. Most just can't/don't set it up with enough subtlety to slip by without people going "well that came out of nowhere'. Something like a split-second view of an epipen in a drawer, or a medical alert bracelet that isn't focused on, or maybe the character(s) paying a bit of extra attention to nutrition information or ingredients list without explaining it aloud. Things that someone might spot if they're looking for it, but could easily be passed off as unimportant props or filler actions to pad out scenes and make them more natural. Thing is, the trope calls for the minder of the person with the medical concern to be made aware of the issue in no uncertain terms (I.E. "They must never come in contact with X"), and the minder just not paying attention at a critical moment due to other priorities. It's a bit of a catch-22 situation from a storytelling point of view. In order for it to work as a device in the story, the relevant people (including the viewers incidentally) must be clearly informed of the possible danger, but in so doing largely spoils the drama and surprise of the now inevitable (from the audience's perspective) event. It's dramatic to the characters on screen, but we see it coming a mile away, since it's generally bad form to make a big deal about something only to have it come to nothing, and being subtle about it just doesn't work in the context of how it's to be used. That doesn't mean it can't be an effective tool when used correctly, with the right setting and characters, but it's a pretty obvious and blunt-force method (like a sledgehammer) regardless of how well it works. And thank *you* for a civil response to an opinion that appears to run counter to your PoV XD

[@edvartsen1685]

“But this channel is just satire” /s. I don’t get why this channel is as popular as it is, it’s just pure lazy garbage criticism

[@dracomancer6237]

@@edvartsen1685 They have literally admitted to not being critics but aholes. What more do you want them to say they don't think they are pointing out genuine flaws. If you dislike that then stop watching there videos.

[@FSKARKEL]

Usualy I like your sins but 75% of the 'sins' in this movie are unjustified.

[@corpsepatty6730]

Which ones?

[@arcticflower7223]

I'll give you one: Thing is reflected differently in mirror cliche, horrible music direction, feeling like Donnie Dark Fanfiction, when the camera just rotates for some reason, the soap opera screaming match at the table.

[@brandonig4990]

Bruh he's not a movie critic and isn't trying to be, it's all for the sake of comedy

[@supahtyp]

the times in which he only showed actual sins are long gone. Now he just pulls lots of bs out of his ass to stretch the video length

[@jedininja4432]

@@supahtyp ive really gone off this channel since the change, I dunno it really bugs me people reaching to criticise, especially when its unjustified or just factually wrong- makes him come across more hater less aficionado.

[@MemberBerry-cu9qi]

11:15 Creating your own jokes and marking it off as a sin devalues the overall effort. It's just a scene of a burnt body with nothing wrong with the scene, but it gets 2 sins because... you sang and said she was burnt? I miss the old videos where you would point out legitimate flaws in a film

[@kylejenson6607]

what are you talking about? He has always done this! His biggest shtick back in the old days (five years ago) was that any time a guy was sitting down he would sin the scene for not containing a lap dance! He did it WAY more in the old days and recently he has been more legitimately critical. Have you even watched his older videos? his sins were most of the time nonsense. Making a joke of a scene and sinning the movie for it is on par with what he has always done. You are mistaking making jokes and sinning movies as legitimate criticism which this guy has said time and time again that it is not. Watch the channel trailer again and maybe then you will understand that The only reason he has ever done this videos since the beginning of this channel was to make fun of movies even if some of the movies he sins are ones he actually likes, Just so that he can make people mad. As such, your criticism makes no sense.

[@mcgeethetree3858]

This channel has broken me, whenever I read comments criticising it, I read them in the cinemasins guy's voice

[@axelcosgirl]

The “Everything Wrong With “Everything Wrong With”” series (and especially this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32ocqZ9pLVga6s ) actually helped me enjoy CinemaSins again. Once you realize they’re just assholes, and can watch these videos with a HUGE grain of salt, they’re a lot more enjoyable.

[@Bloomkyaaa]

*THESE. ARE. NOT. REVIEWS.*

[@Gloomyraindrop]

I don't remember this channel ever "legitimately pointing out real flaws", as their job is pretty much just satire lmao

[@bc5653]

The mom thinks the high school party is a school barbecue, since that's what Peter tells her, that's why she makes him take Charlie

[@26muca07]

20 years from now I can see this movie becoming a huge horror classic.

[@ErebosGR]

No, it won't.

[@26muca07]

@@ErebosGR That's what they said with John Carpenter's The Thing back in 1982...

[@ErebosGR]

@@26muca07 False equivalency. Just because one movie that was unpopular with the critics of its time became a cult classic, that doesn't mean that this one will too. Hereditary doesn't know what it wants to be. On one hand it wants to be The Shining and show how terrifying mental illness can be, but on the other hand it has cultists, conspiracies, demonic possessions and flying moms...

[@26muca07]

@@ErebosGR It's a false equivalence in your perspective. My bet is on "yes", yours is on "no". The only way to set this argument is to wait 20 years and see... Hope you still remember me in 2039, if I'm wrong I'll proudly accept my defeat lol

[@skylx0812]

...not with the cool people

[@Snapmare_]

*_we love homies with extra chromies_*

[@Redarshia]

He he he Ha ha ha

[@EeveeRealSenpai]

"Of course, who can blame _boner_ for getting a _Peter_ in class and not paying attention?" _Did I hear that right?_

[@rafaeleulalio6004]

*GASPS* NOT NICE!

[@vAqeii]

@@rafaeleulalio6004 gasp indeed

[@TheBaddestBiss]

Snapmare omg that’s horrible 😂

[@emilybradley4054]

Everything wrong with bird box plss

[@kaylinblair5107]

theres too much wrong with bird box

[@trippingandbrowsing1269]

"AHH AUNT LYDIA" Same CinemaSins. Same.

[@sorayaalcyone2726]

Toni Colette was so amazing in this, yet I completely loathe her character.

[@kickzforchrist8531]

“Heathly host” peters nose is Broken and he fell from a 2 story house

[@kateea3]

Him falling from the attic allowed Paimon/Charlie to possess him, I don't really know how though lol.

[@electraheart7745]

Lol

[@Adrionic]

@@kateea3 The fall wasn't the only thing that allowed the possession. Everything leading up to that point, from Charlie's death, to the strain on Peter and Annie's relationship, to seeing his father burned alive and his mother maniacally chasing him around the house and slicing her own head off, those are mainly what weakens Peter's psyche so much that he jumps out of the window. It's that weakened psyche that Paimon wanted, and it was finally the opportune time for him to possess Peter.

[@kateea3]

@@Adrionic ohhh right, thanks! 👍

[@mikevokes2216]

@@Adrionic I watched a video explaining paimon and this is true

[@maximumoccupancy]

Most of these aren't even sins or faults of the movie.

[@armas2k193]

Peter dies when he dolphin dives out the window, the light that enters his body represents paimon and Charlie entering him which is why whenever someone becomes possessed they do the tongue clicks.

[@thefreddman7771]

10:37 Very simple: We saw her pouring gasoline over the book a minute earlier, that's why it lit up immediately and so did Steve. piece of book burns = piece of person burns Whole book burns = whole person burns

[@trilla.2k136]

@Megan Rogers Because the Paimon spirit does not operate on human logic. The scene is trying to stress the fact that Annie's actions are futile because her fate is controlled by the cult. She only has the illusion of choice. The only possible outcome is the flaming death of Steve, because Paimon and the cult wants it that way.

[@MrJfizzle11233]

@Megan Rogers The whole book situation was an attempt from Paimon to weaken Annie's spirit so that he may temporarily posses her. He set her sleeve on fire so that she would believe that she would burn alive if she put the book in the fire. Paimon knew that she would try to show her husband what happens when the book is on fire, to prove that she's not crazy, and took the opportunity to make her feel responsible for his sudden immolation. That sudden mental trauma was enough to finish destroying her mind which made her a suitable host.

[@HighAdmiral]

"Nobody admits anything they've done" I'm going to sin you for not sinning them on the irony of her saying this while not realising she was the cause of this by making Peter take the girl to the party.

[@DeathSlinger66]

Thank You

[@sirprize275]

But the son and the movie brings that up Jeremy doing it would just be redundant

[@peachforce]

But that's... that's the point. That's the point of the rant. There's a reason they had her say that line, and part of it is that _she_ refuses to take responsibility. It's not the film's fault if you can't read subtext.

[@sirprize275]

Yves I’m confused. Why is the movie’s character development with that line sin worthy?

[@weir-dojohnny1557]

He did. He said " united states of annie" and took a jab at politicians shifting blame. Must be over ur head

[@damadlad3604]

“What language is even that” -grammar 100

[@jondunmore4268]

That made me laugh so much when Gabriel said it; so annoyed and frustrated. And yeh - it shoulda been a grammar sin - DING!

[@lostlegend2197]

Please do Everything Wrong With Venom (2018).

[@tskmaster3837]

"This movie exists" because of Sony and their licensing shenanigans.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

No no do Venom (1946)...

[@alextrill5829]

"If you look really hard you can see Spider-Man in this shot."

[@erikayay1581]

Lost Legend bruh there would be like 20 sins venom was fucking fantastic

[@deathhy7590]

Little Insane Moments Venom was by no means fantastic. Horrible writing and The first 30 minutes were boring and useless. But the movie was great and fun to watch. Not fantastic though.