Everything Wrong with MLP Gen 5

[@marioaustin9312]

They really should've separated g5 from friendship is magic

[@Smart1529]

agreed

[@whateveryouremadatmeforido5497]

Also made it less weird looking, pug ponies

[@windjager2177]

Fr. They shouldve done the dame thing like g3 and g4, g2 n g3, g1 and g2

[@Howaboutyes11]

No literally because they overall ruined the ending and meaning of G4😭😭

[@cartoonishidealism582]

Been saying this since G4 ended lol. Seriously though, what was the point of connecting it to G4? A new audience of kids aren't gonna give a shit about who Twilight Sparkle is. It feels like they were torn in two directions - simultaneously trying to keep the brony fandom while appealing to a new audience of kids, and it just ended up being confused.

[@fatcat1414]

For me it's less a problem that these new shows have phones and social media and more that every main character is an 'influencer' now. Kids don't relate to that nor is it much of an escapist fantasy worth exploring because it's literally just the act of recording yourself.

[@smolexfundie6458]

The whole show just has a feeling of being immediately "dated" just by having phones at all. Yes, it's set in "cuReNt day" but current day tech is CONSTANTLY changing. Nature, magic, and fantasy settings with always be enjoyed because they are so timeless, despite technically being extremely outdated. But nowadays, tech is commonplace and tired, and NATURE is the escapism. That's what bugs me about the show having tech tbh

[@Howaboutyes11]

I know like obviously kids have their little iPads and stuff, but not every kid is going to be linked to social media

[@cartoonishidealism582]

@@smolexfundie6458 Fair enough but also like... we've had smartphones for two decades now, so I don't think that's really too dated.

[@icecreamhero2375]

I draw my own comics and the characters you phones and technology pretty frequently not to appeal to kids or anything but it makes plots easier to write sometimes. Lets say I want the characters to start a business they can advertise on social media and get a long line quickly and it could be plausible. A character can look up directions and get someplace right away. Its kinda like how in gumball you will sometimes see Gumball and Darwin on Elmore plus.

[@darkmatter9651]

exactly

[@chipchipcheerio]

I always thought Earth ponies were the only ponies that could grow plants from the earth

[@Birdsflight44]

We've seen other ponies participate in earth pony traditions when it comes to tending to the world, so there's nothing saying that agriculture is exclusive to Earth Ponies, but we also see unicorns effecting clouds with their magic, implying ghat they could, in theory, effect the weather, too. IIRC, Faust specified that Earth ponies have a "special connection" to the earth, and my interpretation of that is that Earth ponies have a natural perception of what nature needs to remain in tune, just as the Pegasai have for the weather, and the unicorns did have for the heavenly bodies, before the Alicorns took over. G4 presented this really cool world building element that nature was basically broken, and every basic function, from tree leaf dropping, to rain, and the day-night cycle, all had to be handled manually. (except for the bizarre everfree forest) This actually makes Earth Ponies super important, if they're the ones who know what has to be done to keep everything in order, save for the weather- even if the actual act of handling what needs to be done is now mostly automated or accomplished by magic. ....I really wish they explained why this isn't a problem in g5.

[@smutnejajo5149]

@@Birdsflight44 When you put it like this about the nature being broken it sounds really dystopian

[@WerstoftheWorst]

Druid pony

[@taylorhillard4868]

I thought it was just that earth ponies were physically strong enough to work the land. I feel like earth ponies were usually stronger than the other two races.

[@meriewanderer]

I always interpret that their magic are more sync with nature, therefore them doing stuff about tree and such is more effective

[@rotomfan63]

Personally if it were me I would have just make Earth Ponies have like, magic infused physical strength. Like the crystal just gives them max strength stat

[@unripetheberrby6283]

That's what it was like in the previous seasons, but they changed it instead of adding on or something 🥲

[@inacatt]

In G4, when the earth ponies' magic is taken, they become physically weak and faint. I have no idea why they changed it to plant magic/nature magic.

[@B.O.Xproject]

Honastly that would fit so much better especially since it was kinda confirmed ( at least I would say) that earth ponies are way more physically stronger

[@B.O.Xproject]

@mystic_scythe that's fair but the concept of growing plants also wouldn't or doesn't really work for every pony since not every earth pony has a cutie mark or job relating to plants But honestly it's hard to find something to take away from ponies that are kinda like the humans of the universe where people can fly and shoot lasers

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

@mystic_scythe do you know how hard it is to make candy they the "arm/hoof" strength

[@anonymous-rq2lh]

i’m kinda bummed out at how g5 turned out because i *really* wanted to give it a chance and thought people were treating it kind of unfairly because they didn’t want to let go of g4… except it turned out that even g5 didn’t want to let go of g4

[@cryforhelp7270]

In the same boat :(( when the synopsis came out people were upset by the wording "activist pony" (despite G4 being all for activism LMFAO) I was honestly rooting for G5. I'm disappointed in how it turned out, and I've been disappointed since the movie in all honesty

[@drawingmananish3163]

I like the old MLP I don't like eother of the Gs

[@carnage0685]

@@drawingmananish3163 based g1 fan?

[@lenapawlek7295]

The animation looks good but also for me the smoothness and realistic softness of the ponies makes me realize further how wierd they look

[@OnitaFreeze]

How realistic the mouths move really throws me off too. Theres are section of animation where the quality drops randomly, just frame by frame where the quality will dip..it hurts

[@MeemahSN]

@@OnitaFreeze I really wish studios were given the time and budget to actually polish their work.

[@whitemoonwolf13]

they way their legs bend really bothers me. all their walk/run/fly cycles look awkward and their ankles flex like wrists, it's just really unsettling.

[@Arbysroastbeefjuice]

The animation is horrendous

[@franz.francisco]

So many people see realistic textures/materials in 3d and see good quality. You can recreate this easily if you know what you're doing. The animation, design, and rigging are genuinely terrible.

[@Draukagrissah]

My overall opinion as an oooooold woman who was playing with ponies in the 80s is that it's absolutely okay for the show to be different, and I like a lot of the things that make things different. Not all (cough social media cough) but a lot! My only problem is that it's aggressively bland. It's the same direction Hasbro are taking Transformers and D&D. Stale, samey, easy to churn out. Not strictly bad, but it just doesn't have any heart in it anymore.

[@eddie-roo]

Hard agree, this is so bland. I think they shot themselves in the foot by making it a canonical continuation of a 9 years long series. They should’ve just let it be its own thing. The Marketing team and the executives really held this generation back. They tried to make a marketable product rather than a quality product.

[@sillysillygoose111]

i would have been so happy to see gen 5, it's just... why is gen 5 like. this

[@tpuddin]

Good take but transformers is in a good spot right now, legacy has been killing it having some of the best toys in years

[@rubyrose2683]

I finished friendship is magic yesterday from a month long binge. I don’t have any nostalgia to attach to the older show and I’ve just started trying gen 5, and yeah I think that’s why I’m struggling to watch it? It just isn’t grabbing me the same way friendship is magic did, I don’t feel invested in the characters or in the world, I’m not really the best with my words but I can feel something is off about it.

[@sweetdreams1028]

@@rubyrose2683 exactly. So many fans of G5 try to put people criticizing G5 down by saying “You’re just too nostalgic towards G4!” Even though G5 is literally a direct sequel to G4. But as you mentioned, you just watched G4 and G5, but still agree about G5’s poor quality.

[@amberluppens3292]

Obeline, or however you spell it, getting sealed inside the tree feels like something the G4 writers would come up with for a villain backstory.

[@Flame-rp6yq]

yeah, even then that is dark Opaline just being trapped in a tree as a possibly immortal pony to just sit there, forever!

[@Aster_Iris]

Does this mean Opaline is pony Exdeath???

[@suzanneclark7706]

@@Aster_Iris The ice milf?

[@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix]

It’s “Opaline”, which is a word to describe something that is like opal, has the same sort of sheen as opal does, or (what *I* personally think is the reason for her name) a word for a specific kind of glass that looks like opal, but is in truth, just opaque glass with a sheen, similar to opalite & opalescent glass (though, the transparency is different between the three). Sort of an imitation opal, which looks beautiful, rare, & expensive, but still is just a poor imitation of something that’s much more of all those things. This has been dictionary time with your favorite-by-default gemstone enthusiast, me. Rock on.

[@amberluppens3292]

@@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix oh my god she’s named after the gemstone equivalent of fools gold, that’s hilarious!

[@makuwakuko]

There is a point in friendship in magic where the wendigos freeze over the leaders of each pony for disharmony among the races, but I literally dont understand why social media is the main way of communication instead of the scrolls literally takes away that magic. Not to mention it took like an entire three seasons for twilight to get her wings, and become an alicorn. It's obvious this new gen is to just sell toys, like most mlp, but now it's not even like.. hidden, especially with the confusing lore (and not to mention in the 2D animated series having unicorn fused animals which attracts buyers..).

[@Birdsflight44]

Rarity does talk about making a business phone call, so phones did exist in G4, and even an arcade cabinet is shown on screen. I don't think scrolls were the main means of communication for most ponies generally, but we just saw a rather biased perspective because we followed the protege of an ancient being who likes castles and whose formal standard of correspondence is parchment. Celestia even blew Luna off when she got all excited over the concept of a post card. :( But social media is a fact of life now, and these cartoons are made for children. IMO, we have hundreds of episodes and several G4 movies and specials (including EQG) where social media has minimal focus, so its totally reasonable for a new generation to try to cover new ground, modeling positive social media habits to children. And, generally, G5 does that. Pipp uses her social media presence as a part of her business, and she treats it as a commitment and a tool. Moreso in TYT, but when it crosses over from that into an addiction or an unhealthy obligation, her friends call her out on it or help her, respectively. For example, there's one episode where she promised to Livestream her entire day, but Pipp is overdoing it and gets sick. Her friends then continue the Livestream with a wholesome, candid moment between her and Hitch, about how he's become so nurturing through fatherhood, and how she needs to accept help and should rest. That authenticity gets her stream a ton of likes, and Pipp gets the rest she needs. That was absolutely true to the My Little Pony brand, while using smartphones and social media as a major part of the plot, and all within the truncated Tell Your Tale format. I was actually quite impressed. (I had put off TYT for years because the first few episodes were so... phenetic and seemingly shallow) I wish G5 was generally stronger at storytelling overall, but from the perspective of what it is messaging to children, this isn't all that bad or destructive.

[@Bezaliel13]

1, Can't really argue when they were apart. 2, Those scrolls seem to advance when they just bog magic back. 3, Twilight STAYED as an alicorn.

[@DaNintendude]

They really should've just made gen 5 its own thing. They reference a bit of Gen 4 to appeal to fans of the old series, but I don't think they realize that kids will _also_ pick up on all the weird discontinuity and retcons. If they just started from scratch they wouldn't have had to worry about that.

[@Flame-rp6yq]

Due to some research I did there are typewriters, and due to the make and model, links similar to the 1920s model from the Royal Typewriter Company and we have also seen pencils and pens in the show, but I can understand people wanting to be more old fashioned and use a traditional quill, especially for something such as professional documents And having telegraph, let alone telephone lines would be costly and make no sense when they have a practical usage of magic to teleport messages via dragon's breath, or a line of Pegasi between between towns But I can understand if they were in larger settlements like Manehattan yet G5 didn't decide to make a magic equivalent of a phone? and anything related to Discord gets a pass

[@darkmatter9651]

truuuue

[@AnimeJSaysBah]

5th Gen is Hasbro not wanting to spend the money that they spend of 4rth Gen and making everything in-house. Unfortunately they didn't hire competent writers this time around and the show suffers for it. Also, they should have left 4rth Gen out of this series and let it stand on its own, but they didn't have confidence in the material and added it.

[@Corrector1]

It feels like they put most of their budget into the movie. Looking at things like the animation problems or the fact that half of the replacement voice actors for the main cast don't have many credits to their name, it's always given me the feeling that G5 was produced with a lot of cut corners.

[@SaraAson]

As is a constant with Hasbro. Take a beloved franchise, make something good to revive interest, instantly try to "diy it themself", completely ruin the good thing they had going, outsource to people who can make something good, make something good to revive interest- Constant cycle with them -.-

[@Corrector1]

@@SaraAson Being a fan of "Friendship is Magic" was like seeing a bright young child put with neglectful foster parents, and you just wish they could be with someone who could nurture them properly.

[@carnage0685]

@@Corrector1 fim was bad ever since season 2 ended. it's disgusting that g1 lasted only a fraction as long yet arguably had almost as many good episodes as G4. maybe if the golden age of G4 actually lasted longer i'd feel bad about the current state of the franchise, LOL.

[@ixagonczi]

​@@carnage0685 Did you watch any of the other seasons or do you just hate the wing thing? The wings are amazing, it's really cool to see how Twi has to learn to use them. Also Pinkiamina Diana Pie makes all the seasons worth watching, Discord pulls it together well too. Sure season 9 wasn't the best but season 7? Do you even like mlp gen 4 because that has one of the best episodes.

[@theodorerabbit8483]

I wish they had made the alicorns wings bigger. their height, wingspan and lenth of horns really helped you figure out how old they are

[@avaglennon9873]

Is Obelene just Starlight Glimmer all over again, stealing everyone’s cutie marks?

[@unripetheberrby6283]

yeah a bit... It's Opaline :)

[@lolli_popples]

She’s like a blend of Starlight Glimmer, Nightmare Moon, and Tirek. Except less interesting.

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@lolli_popples And more weird.

[@troin3925]

Did you intentionally spell her name wrong to insult her? Because if so, thank you!

[@avaglennon9873]

@@troin3925 No it was completely accidental. I wasn't sure how to spell her name

[@MischiefMakerMarcy]

Them being angry over the twinkification of Spike is so real… HES A BIPEDAL BUFF CHAD, THIS IS SLANDER

[@mydragonhoardisyarn1839]

Personally, I think that having Misty be kidnapped is a bit of a cop out. She was so relatable when her abuser was her mother. Stories like this made me believe in my early childhood that one day my "real parents" who truly love me and will protect me will find me someday. I had this issue with Rapunzel too to some degree. We need children's shows that aren't afraid to say " some parents are bad, and sometimes you need to do what you can to make it out of that upbringing still being able to love and care for others, including yourself".

[@NikkiTwoShoesDA]

As a person who was emotionally abused by unhealthy parents- Yes. ✨

[@Ka1s_B1scu1ts]

Didn’t earth ponies have enhanced strength or something in g4??

[@avak9252]

they did. would have made much more sense here if they stuck with that

[@amberluppens3292]

Pretty sure that was never confirmed, just something the fans came up with that filled in some gaps

[@prettycuresoundz]

@@amberluppens3292 I always thought they mentioned it in Equestria Girls when they pony up.

[@amberluppens3292]

@@prettycuresoundz maybe they did in the later stuff? I haven’t really watched a lot of EG stuff from after friendship games

[@firelordoregano5632]

@@amberluppens3292 it's canon, when tirek takes everyone's magic earth ponies lose strength

[@theelvenmoss6742]

Maybe this was a me thing but I always read the earth ponies as having magic. It was just that their magic showed less and was more individualized An example bieng pinkie sense Or The fact that the apple family basically have super strength. (Example is bigmac moving a house with easy, while jumping, while bearly caring)

[@nerdatello]

i always thought they had the power to make plants grow faster too??

[@hoodihoo3033]

It's more like there magic effect there bodies more then external things making them better at doing manual tasks like farming

[@capuchinosofia4771]

0:50 the worst part is that kids that dont cronically use social media are now bombarded by it being inside kids shows, too!

[@Ponderpine]

G5 is a show about what if your main character wasn't the main character. Then you get to see a character trying to progress the plot who lacks the god given ability of main character power.

[@somethingcraft3148]

Explain ?

[@lucyla9947]

​@@somethingcraft3148 Essentially Sunny is an Alicorn, and traditionally the Alicorn is the main character. As such Sunny has the powers of the main character. But Zip instead is the pony who plays the biggest role in advancing a plot, even though they don't have Alicorn Magic.

[@khloiotaku6073]

Earth ponies always had magic, otherwise Tirek wouldnt have been able to drain them. Their magic lies mostly with tending the land, it just doesnt manifest in an obvious physical way like pegasai and unicorns. Also, their was always a risk if the ponies didnt get along and started fighting. The Windigos were there for a reason.

[@PJ-Creativity]

It is sooooo weird seeing twilight, celestial and luna in this animation style. I miss the 2D one it looked way nicer than this. I’m also with you on the not liking Christmas that much as someone whose also had some bad ones. HALOWEEN SUPERIORITY!!!!!

[@siddhianishkala4543]

Celestia*

[@PJ-Creativity]

@@siddhianishkala4543 thanks, stupid auto correct lol.

[@Not_a_Norm1e]

Me too i LOVE Halloween.

[@happyfrigginrainbowcookies]

Yeah Twilight looks ugly in this style ngl

[@grotesia]

jasiopek

[@123456foxyify]

My hopes for Gen 5 went down the drain as the seasons go. I would thought that Gen 5 slowly bridge the friendship with all three ponies along with magic. Heck, I was expecting them to find some pieces of Gen 4 ponies as they explain what happened after Opaline came and when you collect these pieces, it'll lead them to Twilight who would in turn teach them friendship and help the ponies with magic. instead, we got this.

[@Birdsflight44]

Gen 5 needed more time in the oven and less corporate meddling. One of the salon ponies is missing ears because they can't go against corporate to alter the model sheet. (her ears are hidden by hair in the 2D design, and it looks fine there, but it does NOT translate well to 3D) Add in the fact that their intended plotlines had to be shredded due to character licensing issues (such as a more elaborate scheme in which Opaline was weaponizing Togetherness Tree magic) and that the full plot was spread between multiple media sources, (such as Zipp's visor coming from Tell your Tale, and the comics featuring the Canterlot ruins and Discord himself) there's basically no way for this show to have really succeeded. Its a shame though- with more time and space, I feel like even some of the biggest supposed gaffes of G5 could have been addressed. There could have been more compelling reasons for the Fall of Equestria than what we got, for example- people were cool on the idea after the G5 Movie, but most sensible fans didn't really hate it until they went and basically confirmed that Twilight's rule probably didn't even outlast America. That kinda feels like shit, especially when they should have five Star-dribbling gods on their side. The real losers here are the G5 superfans and the people who made the show, though. There's definitely some quality diamonds in the rough here, from the characters, to concept art, design, and even some great keyframes in the rushed animation. (Especially those Izzy memefaces, top tier) I hope that the fandom keeps the best of G5 alive and that the people who worked on this get a chance to work under less bullshit circumstances. Because the more I learn about the production of G5, the more I'm shocked that its half as good as it turned out to be.

[@TheRavenir]

I honestly think that the G5 fandom is so small that it mostly just consists of one particular Discord server and almost nothing else. Yeah, it's that bad, unfortunately. And even on that Discord server, a lot of people just think G5 is "fine". They keep watching, but they're not like incredibly enthusiastic about it. It's just sad, really. G4 was so great and appealed to people of all ages, but G5 is just incredibly bland and mostly forgettable. Even I mostly just tolerate it at this point, but the passion I had for it during G4 is almost completely gone...

[@DrawciaGleam02]

"their intended plotlines had to be shredded due to character licensing issues " I heard that. I do wonder why Hasbro has rights to some charcters but Discovery has the rights to the others......just weird.

[@DaNintendude]

Due to the licensing issues I really think they should've just made the show its own continuity. They shouldn't have brought up Gen 4 stuff if they couldn't do it properly. If they _really_ wanted to tie into Gen 4, don't pander and just build it up naturally. If you can't explicitly mention locations and characters, just imply it through context clues and focus more on other aspects of the lore. I do wonder if part of the issue is that they set up Sunny knowing about Twilight in the movie, but then could barely use anything from Gen 4 in the show. So just hinting at stuff would've been odd. I could see an argument that Gen 5 didn't need to accurately follow Gen 4's continuity because it's for kids, but uhh.... I can guarantee that a lot of kids have noticed the issues and are confused by them. Especially in the case of Spike's design.

[@Corrector1]

@@TheRavenir I've gotten a similar impression. Even some of the people who like G5 overall don't seem truly passionate about it. It feels like "My Little Pony" has gone back to being what it used to be; it definitely has a fanbase, but it mostly consists of the core demographic and hardcore legacy fans, and people outside of those groups are aware that the franchise exists, but don't spare it much thought beyond that.

[@allisonpopick6139]

@@DrawciaGleam02 Discovery and Warner Brothers’ CEO is David Zaslav…..make of that what you will

[@33pandagamer]

Back in my day, if a season had less than 12 episodes it would be considered a mini-series. If it was just one episode it would be considered as a special. If the episode is 50 minutes or longer, It was considered a movie.

[@SpellboundWolf]

This series gave the ponies incredibly uncanny faces. They always make me think of the monsters from the horror manga Jinmen. They're so terrifying! On the bright side, I have become invested in the gen 1 series My Little Pony Tales. 😻💖 It feels special & have the best-looking horse designs. (Maybe make their ears bigger)

[@MeloncatOwO]

The whole g5 feels like someone's mlp au/fanfic with budget

[@ThroughTheThornvine]

in fairness, g4 DID have a drawback for widespread unrest- the windigoes

[@unripetheberrby6283]

Yea, they'd snow over and die in that trouble

[@pugglebiscuit9600]

I cant believe out of all the creators that have made videos on this series, only like 2 have even mentioned the dragons having cutie marks, plus theyre only on one side now no matter the creature, like why!?

[@greenghoul157]

I really wish they used magic instead of technology, they could have gone the route of magic being an allegory for technology and using it to power screens it would make phones and social media existing in MLP less awkward

[@The_Sojourn_Experiment]

16:45 WAIT A GODAMN MINUTE! THEY HAVE WINGS AND HORNS But back in gen 5 when mcflurry face appeared they said "No alicorn had been born in equestria before" so either they're not from equestria bc they're clearly children here, OR.....they're dumb idk

[@laialuvv]

everything wrong with MLP gen 5? ITS CREATION. (the movie was so good tho)

[@unixornprince]

Right, the movie actually made me hopeful for the rest of g5. But then we get this crap..

[@WildManesFanChannel]

I agree, the movie is the only G5 content that is clean, the animation is beautiful and it’s worth it that the rest of Make Your Mark

[@Ayvee_]

I like the movie, but not the show. It could be because of the villain of the show

[@dreamguardian8320]

That could be it.

[@Jerry-o3p]

No. No. No. ✌️🌈🤔🌟✨✨🌦️😊😌😏. Not *her* . What was her name again??? D something. Ends with a O. Not the villainess. Her and the other two antagonists in that Friendship is Magic movie. Too spellbinding. ✨🌟🤔🌈✌️✌️✌️⚡⚡⚡⚡

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@Jerry-o3p Queen Opaline, Tempest Shadow, and the Storm King.

[@YourInternetK9]

g5 looks like a barbie movie in the worst way possible

[@sillycritter]

they didn't have a very big budget for the show

[@bettygrof.]

@@sillycritter it shows 💀

[@sillycritter]

@@bettygrof. you should not be hating on the animators when they tried their best with what they had, if they had a bigger budget it would have been better, also the animation in the show vastly improved by the end of the show

[@YourInternetK9]

@@sillycritter people are allowed to not like the way something looks, actually. its really obvious the budget sucks and theres nothing wrong with pointing that out. even if the animation were higher quality the style still sucks. the ponies look nothing like ponies and the other creatures are just... idk man just look at it, its horrendous, and ppl r allowed to think that

[@sillycritter]

@@YourInternetK9 i think the ponies look fine, they are stylized in a way that looks perfectly fine, also need i remind you that the g4 characters also looked nothing like real ponies, in fact i would argue that as the generations went on the ponies looked less and less like ponies and keep in mind the movie was very high quality and many people praised the character design, just admit your problems are with the lighting and character movements, which did improve as the series went on might i add your allowed not to like it but videos like these frustrate me because they are worthless, complaining about something you clearly don't like instead of enjoying your own interests is pointless, it's clear to me this video was made just for views since hatewatching gets clicks i think it's cute, and i'm allowed to think that just as much as your allowed to dislike it

[@unixornprince]

It’s funny that you say “the show is very heavily made to sell toys” but in reality none of the specials got toys. Only bridlewoodstock got like 3 toys and that was it. There wasn’t anything for the starlight special. The toys I’m pretty sure are actually doing very poorly, there were g5 equestria girl dolls that leaked more than a year ago and supposedly they were cancelled due to low sales of the ponies. Also important to note the identity crisis the toys are having. Some have articulation with sculpted hair or rooted hair, or non articulated with sculpted or rooted, or even sculpted hair with rooted tails.. OR 6nch ponies with articulation and rooted hair. They’re not at all consistent with their toys. Also to add to the inconsistencies, Minty has had 2 g5 toy releases with her g3 design meanwhile for the show they used g1 minty. Like not at all the same character.

[@lizzytonx9364]

I dont know why but the g5 animation kinda reminds me of mia and me

[@thesunniest1824]

The animation style is very similar. And when Sunny gets alicorn powers it looks like Mia's transformation when entering Centopia

[@amberluppens3292]

Oh my god you’re right, I see it too now

[@PaolaPonce-ec7tm]

OMG YES!!!!

[@KaliqueClawthorne]

Oh god yes. And the evil lair of opalia Looks like Gargonas Island.

[@blastlightstar]

aw this isn't where i wanted to be reminded of mia and me

[@MusicComet]

Spike looked like that teenage version of his evil self from like season one or something? Where it was his birthday and he caved in to his greedy hoarding dragon roots.

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks for this. ( I think it was a common fannon that Earth ponies always had magic, as kind of an explanations for super strength, ESP and the otherwise least capable being in charge of all agriculture. But it's cool to see it canonised. The only 5 I saw was in Forgalorga's Glimmerverse.)

[@Birdsflight44]

Ponies in general kinda seemed to get a bonus second talent if they didn't get much Pegasus Flight or Unicorn Magic. AJ and her Lasso, Pinkie being psychic, Maud being super strong, and even outliers like Fluttershy having weak Pegasus magic, but getting a bonus talent in The Stare. The real Have Nots were the ponies with weak magic, or who can't conform. (no flight, no cutie marks, etc)

[@ixagonczi]

​@@Birdsflight44 In general most unicorn didn't have much magic. The thing is that we see 3 unicorn who all seem to have their special talent as magic which makes them have more. Most unicorns are like Trixi, Sunburst and Rarity. They really don't have a lot. In general they just have abilities that will help them with their special talent.

[@ladypool1404]

Gen 4 also have houses and shops like in our world BUT they were also hippogriffs, pirates, sea ponies. It was a mix of a fantasy world and ours, it's a cool concept! I like how it's showed in the movie. It looked fun to explore and the magic was beautiful. Here, there's phones and internet now... it's just our world but replace every humans with ponies. Wow, that's original ☹I'm not asking to do what Equestria girls did but this franchise really needs a new concept. Maybe the villain can come from our world and wants to fuze ponies with dragons, create an army and rule his city because everyone think's he's crazy? Doing that will proove that the scientist was right and other universes exist?

[@rubyrose2683]

Honestly I’m fine with the internet but what bothers me the most is the stuff like the terminator and transformers reference. I can believe a civilization building up its own tech but to reference content from our own world just kinda throws me off.

[@Revkor]

and that is after a disaster they destroyed everythign G4 did

[@HandheldGamer1991]

And thats why 99% of the fandom ignores g5 and pretends that its either not canon or an alternate Au where season 9 never did happen. I mean when even bronies react doesnt want to make episodes on it and they reacted to g3.5 then you know its bad.

[@Stardust_42]

I keep telling myself I should watch G5 but I never do, it just never had enough to offer for me. And this is coming from someone who's entire personality is G4

[@anq4274]

It migth be that children entretintment is just...bad nowdays, or the writters strike...or adults having 0 contact with actual chilren to getting to know what they like and blend it with what they need to learn.

[@nerdycurls6253]

My little pony like many children shows has the problem called toy sales. They only care about selling toys to little kids, especially considering Hasbro is in charge, a toy company. They don't all suck, most of what my little sister watches is decent and actually entertaining.

[@ixagonczi]

Many of the new things are bad because well a toddler doesn't need much and they have now realized that. This is why I will only show any further child good movies, none of the bad stuff because I will not have my brain dying because of how boring it is. They want a weird kids show? Barba pappa, Mumin, Nicke nyfiken or something else like that.

[@skyflower833]

I loved the 4th gen my little pony as a kid and I sometimes revisit the show now even as a 17 year old. Never watched MLP 5th generation and I asked one of my friends about the show and he told me to not even try watching it because it's that bad.

[@Birdsflight44]

G5 is harmless if you like cartoons and want something to watch. I daresay I prefer the target demo watch it over a lot of the stuff out there these days... But if you want something that actually scratches the itch of meaningful, quality cartoon with a fantastical bent and a similar pace, I suggest Hilda.

[@skyflower833]

@@Birdsflight44 omg I remember watching this show when I was a kid and loving it, thanks for recommending it, It's reminded me to go and watch it.

[@shyateverything5967]

My issue always was (with the movie especially since its connected to G4) WHERE ARE THE WINDIGOS. We had Hearthswarming eve episodes explaining the need for harmony and friendship between ponies, and they even made a return when the big three were able to cause discourse amongst pegasi, earth, and unicorn. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WINDIGOS??? Tirek himself said that they're ancient magic that can't be destroyed or contained! If this world is supposed to be that ponies were once divided, then how come the windigos didn't appear or have mention????

[@somethingcraft3148]

The Windigos could have just been a metaphor for all the troubles that were caused by the pony’s splitting up.

[@Shapoufiiie]

​​@@somethingcraft3148 no dude, they're real creatures and characters in the show. WATCH THE SHOW! It's right there on KZbin ! The WHOLE ASS SEASON!

[@HammerHead-yx5dy]

Even with him saying they can’t be destroyed or contained due to them being ancient magic maybe they temporarily disappeared when all the magic was drained. I know that still doesn’t make much sense seeing as that would be like containing them but if they’re magic and literally all of the magic was gone then that’s my best explanation. Also, perhaps the containing could only happen once they’ve already appeared but they can’t appear if there’s no magic to allow them to

[@HandheldGamer1991]

Simple the writers didnt know anything of g4 and just made things up. G5 should have never been conected with g4 especially if the studio didnt work closely with dhx so they can ask them questions about the show and from where they should start or what they should never ever do like make a sequel in a ruined equestria by a alicorn that acts like a ditzy spoiled 5 year old!

[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

Thank you for coming back and being alright negative legend favorite creator also you seem bigger you have grown more

[@DILLPICKLEZZ23]

3:01 so we are just gonna pretend the wendigos dont exist?

[@aduckofsomesort]

I kind of forgot that gen 4 ended

[@DaNintendude]

I don't care that they're not appealing to the older fandom & bronies, but I do care that they created an utterly boring show with nothing interesting about it. They occasionally reference the previous generation, but they retcon stuff, mess stuff up, and it's also super forced! Meaning kids who have seen the previous generation are also confused and wondering why Spike looks different and all that. They should've just made a brand new continuity and made their own brand new thing (although-- that's basically what they did outside of the references). I hope the next generation is better and is actually fun to watch. I grew up watching Gen 4 because it was just a great show overall. If I saw gen 5 at the same age I started watching Gen 4, I probably wouldn't have watched it.

[@DaNintendude]

Oh yeah, I like to headcanon that Gen 5 is actually a bad future of Gen 5. Either sometime within Gen 4, or at least before the finale, there was a change. Opaline came and was unable to be defeated, so Twilight had to hide magic. Alicorns eventually died out because they no longer have magic protecting them or something. Something happens regarding the dragons and magic is used to try to separate the dragon lands from Equestria. Spike's body structure develops differently than in Gen 4 because of the unique circumstances, I guess. It's stupid and definitely not true, but I like to think Gen 4 finished when it did, and Gen 5 is just a bad ending.

[@_ac1d3athz_]

i genuinely tried to give the new gen a chance but i just can’t. it has NO SOUL. like at all.

[@benjaminbarriga7821]

And those G5 lovers out there are always telling us G5 haters to give the show another chance, well guess what I gave the show too many and even then I still don't find it appealing nor interesting and it just fails to get my attention, heck it doesn't even deserve our attention. I absolutely agree with you when you say that this show has NO SOUL, the soulless part about this show has to be fact that they just had to make G5 a sequel to G4, yep they just had to tie G5 to G4 which results in so many problems. 1. Throwing away established lore 2. Plot holes and continuity errors between G4 and G5 3. Too many questions on what happened between G4 and G5 and how does anything work in G5. And I could go on, and don't even get started on nostalgia baiting yeah the fact that in Chapter 6 of MYM they literally brought back Spike from G4 and that's a very obvious nostalgia bait right there, that's not gonna make the show any better. Honestly if G5 was it's own thing it wouldn't have all these problems.

[@ironvlogger9712]

Why couldn't they just pick up where g4 left off? It literally skips ahead to Luster Dawn who is a little bit younger than Flurry Heart and they had Little Cheese, right there, 3 new characters who are linked to the Mane six so they would have to be involved with the to a certain degree

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

His/Her Majesty would be the reigning monarch, and His/Her Highness would be the monarch as well as their entire family.

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

Saying "his/her" just to seem inclusive is so sad

[@Azazel-ii6zc]

@@mrpickles-hb6zx That wasn't trying to "seem inclusive", OP was likely just using interchangeable pronouns because most monarchs aren't really nonbinary

[@nerdatello]

@@mrpickles-hb6zxpretty sure he said this to show it's the same for both

[@Herring.is.Caring]

⁠@@mrpickles-hb6zx In cases like this, “Their Majesty” and “Their Highness” are more inclusive and also easier. In my opinion, “His/Her” should just fall in a ditch and never return.

[@ixagonczi]

​@@Herring.is.Caring Yeah like it is longer for no reason besides being slightly less inclusive, don't know why people still say his/her instead of their

[@sharaheartsixx]

My biggest problem is just how inconsistent it is in it's own story and characters personalities let alone integrating G4 lore. Also the insane lack of character development or ACTUAL stakes it's just...so insanely disappointing. There is no escapism with the fantasy elements, even though I don't mind when shows have things like phones and SM I wish they included them in a more fantasy-esk way. Like, what if they pushed the environments and lifestyles in completely different directions with how they evolved without magic (ie. Cyberpunk inspired tech heavy for Pegasi, Steampunk for Earth Ponies etc). IDK.... it all kinda went downhill after the movie with Misty being the only real interesting character.

[@reallyradrabbit]

wow this is exactly how I feel lol, the ponies almost feel unnatural in a modern setting like this to me, the phones are especially weird

[@zionborealis]

G4 was a show for all ages... G5 is a kids show...nothing more

[@emisalis]

hurts deep

[@berry5965]

Man i could not watch more after "season 1" so this is a great summary, seeing Luna and Celestia being alicorns as foals gave me whiplash, so much for the princess wings having to be earned. Why did they connect it to G4

[@Ayyyitsakira]

I just wanna know,where the hell is Princess Luna and Celestia???They are both alicorns and both are immoral so wouldn't they be there???while Im at it,where is Twilights tree castle thingy?its made out of crystals so it should still be their Idk why but its making me upset😭

[@HammerHead-yx5dy]

Seeing as Opaline is alive, losing magic would not have caused them to lose their aglessness, which is a theory i had. So unless the other alicorns died by some other means, they should still be alive. Maybe this will be addressed in later seasons. Could be possible that they just left and hid somewhere. Saw some people saying that maybe Twilight gave up her agelessness so she could die when her friends did but the show mentions Equestria being under her reign for what seems like a long time, so i believe that is unlikely. Nothing really makes much sense to me in this show, didn’t even care for the first episode. As for Twlight’s castle, maybe it was destroyed in the same manor the Tree of Harmony was since they both seem to be made of the same crystal material.

[@marmar340]

why did I immediately think of Amon from LOK with the whole earth pony uprising thing-

[@Gin_isnotmyname]

No wonder I felt that the uprising felt familiar lol😭

[@fruity4820]

And just like LOK that really intersting plot point was dropped really quiqly bc god forbid we have to foucues on the normies of the world

[@Silver77cyn]

You're hairstyle is straight outta the 80's, which is also ironically were G1 MLP was made.

[@invaderspencer]

THERE'S 6 SEASONS?? i could've SWORE there was only a movie

[@Livi_Is_Silly]

I BEG that they make G6 relatable for all ages like G4 was... and not just slop for babys like G5....

[@duskyfordays7657]

This is literally a bad reboot for kids and to soak up any desperate nostalgia from g4 watchers

[@CraneRuinWCUE]

What I don’t understand is that- you’re telling me, for all those years of separation….THERE WERENT WENDIGOS!? Like- sure, you could argue that magic didn’t work, but how do you explain in the first episode, instead of wendigos, you decide to put a giant gaping black hole in the middle of where everyone is standing.

[@vaehtay]

I watched through the entire series a bit ago, and I had a good enough time, but I just need to call out that the Halloween special was SUCH a missed opportunity. One of the main plot points in that one is that Pipp really wants to scare Misty for Halloween, but Misty isn’t really scared by anything because she has seen some sh to say the least. And at the same time. Opaline had teleported to Maretime Bay during Halloween to try and steal cutie marks or something, but everyone keeps telling her she just has a “really cool alicorn costume” and won’t take her seriously. The entire time I was banking on the idea of Opaline showing up and being the only thing that could scare Misty, to resolve that plot point, but none of the 6 protags even see Opaline, and the point of that plot is just Pipp going “oh no I was too focused on scary Misty to focus on our haunted house!!” Massive missed opportunity to establish how overwhelming Misty’s fear of Opaline is before the plot point at the end where she’s afraid to confront her

[@onewiththegrim585]

The reason why the netflix show feels so disjointed is because a lot of stuff happens on the KZbin show that fills in the blanks. Because splitting what should be one show into two is always a brilliant idea!

[@OG.StrawberryGoat]

The whole show is basically magic-ex-machina or Sunny whining until her friends do it

[@DeaditeCaz]

I hate how their cutie marks are only on one side I thought they were on both flanks

[@lucilucid]

I think they wanted to make the characters more similar to the toys.

[@jayanderson1323]

The funniest part is they don’t even produce that many toys for g5

[@bitterflywing]

I feel like if a unicorn wanted, they could use magic to levitate. the pegasus should have weather based magic sort of like when rarity got rainbow's mark.

[@bitterflywing]

You're right about Zipp. She solves a lot of the problems (and is literally next for the throne) and has debatible more personality. She's like Parsley from high guardian spice who was debatibly more of a leader.

[@Shivery]

Personally I think G5 have an ugly style. I just like Lauren Faust's design better.

[@Jim_Jam]

The Allura storyline actually continues in "My Little Pony: Tell Your Tale", which is a sister show that ran concurrently and tied in with "Make Your Mark", but now continues to run and seems to be the main focus. Episodes are typically around 5 minutes and release right here on KZbin. IMO, it's a better show.

[@MegaLinket]

I wanted the original concept of Gen 5 with the different Pony Worlds and Hub area.

[@Corrector1]

It's always stuck in my craw that some of the leaked concepts looked more interesting than what they ended up going with.

[@djtundra8011]

I’m sorry what?! I never heard of this original concept. Please do tell ☕️

[@unripetheberrby6283]

@@djtundra8011 Yes it was something leaked a few years ago ^^'

[@GuroPure]

the swapped species concept was super interesting too like twilight was an earth pony, fluttershy was a unicorn and pinkie was a pegasus

[@nightshroud9671]

Not liking how Spike was missing in it though

[@jbingbong]

in G4 they had to be semi-unified so the Wendigo spirits wouldn't freeze Equestria over

[@lyfrassirr]

this just confirms to me that the best series made to sell toys is lego monkie kid. great animation and story

[@charliekloos4739]

In My Opinion, After So Much Thinking About It For a Few Weeks I've Worked Out What's Missing From G5 That Makes It Different From G4. Not Enough Villains, G4 Had Sooo Many Villains Enough To Fill a Town, Half Were Redeemed But In This Series We Get Like 3 Villains, Sprout, Opaline, Allura, And An Unseen New Villain Only Heard Of Once And Never Mentioned Again, But What This Series Really Needs To Keep Going Is New Menacing Threatening And Deadly Looking Villain. Heroes Vs Villains, Good Vs Evil, Epic Battle Scenes. They Put All That In This Series And More People Will Want To Watch It, And If That Doesn't Work Then May God Strike Me Down.

[@Pyro7693]

So apparently the reason Make Your Meh and the rest of G5 have such weak connections to G4 is because Hasbro doesn't have the full rights to the show. Everything shown between seasons 5&9 belongs to Discovery Family, if the G5 teams wanted to feature Twilight, Tirek, Rainbow Dash etc. they would have to pay fees to Discovery Family. Which begs the question. WHY IN THE NAME OF LUNA DID THEY MAKE G5 A SEQUEL!?

[@omegabr5257]

money, but they regret making it a sequel now im pretty sure lol.

[@JoshtheOverlander]

I mean, Gen 4 always had stakes to the bonds between the ponies of Equestria, their feuds between each other literally brought on the Windigos and nearly wiped them all out Hell, one of the final schemes of the series involved dividing the three pony races and striking during a moment of weakness

[@StOPpLeaSE-456]

The problem for me is how princess celestia isn’t there. Her and Luna are immortal beings and have been around for thousands of years. Al all of the sudden they aren’t around? This makes zero sense

[@AliceANDdamien]

Exactly

[@maravreloaded]

In G4 they had whole character arcs and worldbuilding to justify new toy lines. Now in G5 they just spawn PORTALS to justify new things coming. Because the world of Equestria was reduced to THREE UNITY MAPS.

[@Howaboutyes11]

Oh my gosh, let’s go. I literally have been getting back to my my little pony face and I’m so glad you made a video!!!❤❤❤YESS

[@bloodmoon_0o]

You know, if g5 was instead a fanfiction written by a teenager, I’d probably like it better

[@saraayala7283]

Only 2 minutes and I’m here. That’s a new record for me.

[@jawsisra]

You are missing 1/2 of the Gen the KZbin Series. It is canon to this show.

[@royalladybug30]

I never kept up with this generation of MLP. I appreciate the recap.

[@darkmatter9651]

I hate how every single kids show needs to have phones and social media in it now. Boy, stop giving kids phones. It so upsetting to me not only that but they keep using them in the show💀 Also the 'bad christmas' winter special dislike hit a little too close to home

[@nalaxysketches8519]

This is a nitpick but it actively bothers me that the poines in gen 5 don't have their cutie marks on both sides of their flanks anymore and it's only relagated to one side. This design choice was not planned out well not only because it's distracting and lazy, but also very situational due to most episodes involving with close up shots of the poines cutie marks for plot reasons. Even to the point where there was a episode in "season 2" where two ponies swapped cutie marks and were facing the other way where their cutie marks are hidden, only for said cutie marks to be highlighted and then suddenly they were facing the other way where their cutie marks are shown. A blatant continuity error! I just don't understand the reason for doing this when it was much easier to just slap a cutie mark texture on both sides of the model since it's in 3D.

[@gingerninja137]

is it just me or did anyone else think that the dragons had cutie marks because Spike actually did end up with Rarity.... they're all built like ponies, except the baby that looks weirdly human

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

G5 is what happens when you try to make a continuation of something popular, but don't put forth the time and effort to make something good.

[@sabertoothno34]

I always feelt like earth ponies should be stronger or more physically capable. -Pegasi are always using their wings and almost never walk, they have the wind do most things for them, so they should lack more ENDURANCE than a unicorn or earth pony when running and trying to carry things on foot. -Unicorns are always using their magic from small things to big. Some of them don't need to walk or run, they can teleport or make a spell that helps them travel places. so they should lack STRENGTH when it comes to physical work things oppose to the pegasi who would just have terrible endurance. -Earth Ponies don't have an easy way, they gotta walk around everywhere, carrying things with their backs or the help of a carriage that they drag around, Applejack and Pinkie Pie were always great examples of how earth ponies are built DIFFERENT.

[@willowirides89]

the whole season 6 feels like a paraphrased version of the season 4 finally

[@menosproblemos6993]

Voice get lower when you relax (maybe you wake relax and tense up during the day) I checked out my adams apple in the mirror when I was silent, when was going to talk the throat clenched up so I talked high pitch. Practiced making sounds without tensing up. It's pretty fun talking in a low voice... relaxed voice*. Try out the mirror practice = D

[@UrDad000]

I feel like the phones and social media wouldn’t be such a problem if it was something that just existed in the background instead of the creators trying to be hip with the kids. The fact that Pipps is just an influencer is a big problem, what I would do is have Izzy post her creations cuz she’s already a character with personality and posting it would just be a small detail

[@Thatonetomatocreature]

I think it make sense that the queen is just a regular Pegasus because she’s the queen of the pegasi. The reason alicorn rulers were so significant was because they represented the whole pony population. A pegasi ruler doesn’t need to be an alicorn because she only rules over pegasi, no further representation needed.

[@Firestar-TV]

Eeeeew!!! Those Things aren't Dragons. They are just weird, terrible Mutants. At least Spike looks a bit better than the other ones

[@DevilArcanaXV]

It’s more like a baby mutant ninja turtle😱😰🤢🤮

[@Firestar-TV]

@DevilArcanaXV shouldn't they at least look like what they are supposed to be? Don't know much about that Franchise 🐢

[@DevilArcanaXV]

@ they look enough like turtles, yeah

[@Just_Some_Dude73]

The thing that hurts me the most about this series, is that this implies Equestria under Twilight's rule fails unlike Celestia's which i'm pretty sure lasted 10x longer, so all the ending of G4 means nothing. (the movie was neat tho)

[@kassandraofodyssey6475]

G5 is like the Robots In Disguise of the FiM continuity. Just like what RID did to the Aligned continuity, which also includes Prime, G5 also sorta ruined Friendship is Magic by….existing.

[@stcxi]

I have been waiting for this video for SO long

[@HeruruMeruru]

I haven't even watched this or cared about MLP since like 2012 but the new ponies faces are way too humanlike. It's horrifying.

[@puekjh]

Yeah, especially the lips, it's terrifying

[@dotcal1405]

The solution being singing around a tree is so funny to me because it just reminds me of the grinch 😭 anyway I could feel the chaotic energy in this one Negative lmao great video

[@theterrorofdimensions1326]

Slight critique to you saying the last gen (my personal favorite) was just "Friendship for friendship's sake": While I do agree that there perhaps wasn't nearly enough at stake at first glance, there are a few subtle instances (or moments they conveniently only talk briefly about) where it is shown that Friendship is not only a powerful magic, but is also vital to the survival of Equestria as a whole. The biggest example I can think of are the Windagos. Yes, everyone in Equestria thinks they're a myth by now, but frankly... I never really believed it was. With everything that has happened in the series, and all the wacky stuff that can be a thing because of magic, I always felt that it was a very subtle ever-present threat hanging over things. An enemy that, unlike every other foe in Equestria, simply bides its time ever so patiently. Waiting for that one day when friendship will fail, and it will be free to freeze over all of Equestria with an eternal winter yet again. All that being said, it's good to know that g5 tried to give a more immediate and obvious reason for why they cannot afford to be divided as they are. Still prefer G4, tho.

[@BaloraSilviana_PrincessRuby]

Season 1 : Is B + Season 2 : Is C - Season 3 : Is F - Season 4 : Is A + Season 5 : Is C - Season 6 : Is F - Season 7 : Is ( ??? Unknown Class )

[@andrewgreeb916]

For g4 it was the windigos were what forced the races to unite, as if they didn't the land would be forever frozen.

[@Totally_Alpharius]

that joke at 17:09 was actually hillarious considering that female custodes where recently made cannon which was pretty controversial in the Warhammer comunity

[@liljatupsu]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that was the point of making that joke in the first place

[@Totally_Alpharius]

@@liljatupsu I do be kinda stupid at times

[@liljatupsu]

@@Totally_Alpharius To be fair, I've probably made that same mistake a thousand times too

[@TheSultan1470]

​@@Totally_Alpharius Seems to be the common trait of this audience

[@StrabbyStrabby]

Haven't finished the video yet so my bad if this gets brought up - but, G4 also had narrative stakes for kindness! It wasn't just kindness for kindness' sake (though, personally, I feel like real kindness for the sake of it is honestly better than 'be nice or die' or having some other motive), the windigos created freezing blizzards and temperatures so cold they nearly wiped out the entire pony race

[@acidicvagabond9343]

alicorns were entirely a gen 4 thing like gen3 rarity was a princess of a place called unicornia i think??? but yea no ones talking about gen 5 because it just THAT BAD and honestly i think they shouldve left the connection to gen4 out because it does like NOTHING for anything really from what i tried to find out also!! tried to watch all the gen5 media on my own and i actually got a headache because nothings coherent in the slightest bc its like weirdly split between the 3D stuff and the 2D stuff kinda??????? genuinely they should not have attached g4 to g5 because it just drags it down. but technically this is also a return to form??? like my little pony was originally made to sell toys like anything else but people are so attached to gen4 that making gen5 a ""sequal series"" of sorts is just adding fuel to the "this is bad" fire

[@rubyrose2683]

And the worst part is this one’s definitely more of a kids show then the last one, I’m 18 and I got a head ache from trying to figure it all out, let alone the target audience for this show whose never gonna watch it how it’s supposed to be.