EVERYTHING WRONG WITH MODERN WOW

[@TheStygian]

Full disclosure, I'm a new WoW player. The most fun and immersed I've felt was exploring the dark shores, on the ground with me and my mount. I've been molded pretty early with the luxury of flying and I already realized that it turns questing from exploring to just turning into a question mark checklist.

[@shieldsftw]

Yeah, I feel the same way. Its way less immersive.

[@hordenallimaniafan2565]

@@shieldsftw lets be honest, thats not a WoW problem but a YOU problem, WoW gives a lot for different Players, who like to play the game how they like. You like to Explore the World, nice just explore it on the Ground, who is pointing a gun at your head and says, "FLY you Fools!"? No one, it is the same with all the Player who cry about "Back in Classic you had to Read the Quest text, that was better then having just some markers, all you do is open the Quest, accept without Reading and run from Marker to Marker." while they still have quest texts, and they still can read them, it is there decision to not to. When it comes to Flying, I remember a time (WoD) where first people Cryed that there will be Flying in the new Expansion and that you can't really explore the World anymore, then Blizzard said, no there will be no flying, then the same people cry about that there is no flying, and Blizz said, okay there will be flying behind an archievment where you have to explore the World. Everytime I see comments like this am I like "But who making you play it in the way you don't like?" and Everytime I get to the Conclusion that it isn't about how you like to play the game, but how you like everyone else to play the game. You don't want the special stuff, so nobody should get it, because god forbid that other player use something you don't want.

[@shieldsftw]

You're right, it definitely is a ME problem. Like I said in the video its just my humble opinion. I get that most people don't agree with it.

[@Ultravis66]

One of the reasons why I love classic is if you clear the content, you get access to the same gear as everyone else clearing it. You can make it more challenging by speed running and challenge yourself through parsing. Also, I like how you can PvP to gear up and PvE to gear up and both types of gear are good enough to do either. You can PvP in PvE gear and you can PvP in PvE gear and do just fine.

[@luluehayes]

Removing flying would fix so much with the game, meeting people doing stuff while they're traveling and bored really helps with starting conversations. Jumping to say hi used to be a meme, but with flying you don't really see that much out in the open world anymore. Great video btw! V based points

[@shieldsftw]

@@luluehayes Thanks! I'm glad you liked it :)

[@blacksun6245]

😂Really removing flying

[@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052]

holy shit i thought you people were just a joke i didnt think anyone was actually this dumb

[@videowatcher37]

new wow player here, played retail (Dragonflight), vanilla classic (hardcore, SoD) and Wrath Classic, IMO: - Retail is the best version out of all of them, i like the complexity, transmog, gearing, achievements and storytelling the most personally - Wrath classic had the best leveling experience and the worst endgame - Vanilla was fun playing Hardcore, but not SoD, not interested in playing Vanilla classic servers that have been progged on since 2019 - Retail isn't as popular as it used to because no MMO is. Classic is way less popular than Retail and it's not even close. The market is saturated and people jumped to different ships, younger players aren't that interested in MMOs and if they are they tend to prefer the Retail Gameplay Model, that's just how it is. - the games are best enjoyed if you treat them as entirely seperate titles, like Oldschool RuneScape and RuneScape 3 for example - Stop comparing the MMO landscape from 20 years ago to today, its like comparing apples with chipotle - Stop trying to turn modern wow back into classic wow when you already have 3 (soon to be 4) different iterations of that to chose from

[@Omdus123]

Good take I like it. I think wow missed a crucial part while copying gw2 flying. Gw2 got 7 different mount that excel att different things. You don't just jump on a dragon and cross the map 10 miles up in the air. I have about 400 hours in gw2 mostly story/pvp but I haven't even made a dent in the open world content would be nice if wow took a page from their playbook and did it right.

[@shieldsftw]

Good take, wow could definitely expand on the dragonflying capabilities!

[@Elgato1221]

13:20 blizzard has tried that. It’s doesn’t work. Like it or not flying is in the game. They need to design the game around it now. “Once a weapon is made it can never be unmade and it will always be used.”

[@Jinx1349]

They need to design the game around it now. This!

[@meryl_96]

It alreasy is. Especially now with Dragonriding, the zones and the gameplay are deeply designed around it.

[@Elgato1221]

@@meryl_96 you are correct! And I’m loving it!

[@All_Good_Things]

I've been playing wow on and off since 2007 I don't ever play retail i love classic wow, Exploring the world the levelling journey and the challenges that brings. Retail has no challenge whatsoever, you can pull 10 mobs and wipe them all out like hot knife through butter and not even lose any xp. It like it's blasting you to the endgame content which I don't even do or care about. For me its about the journey not the destination. I suppose I'll guess I'll just be playing classic wow forever

[@3v1l0773r]

I'm not sure what I'd think about not being able to fly. I remember already back in the day when playing TBC I got the flying on my main but couldn't afford it on my first alt that I leveled and even back then I realized how much more you see of the world when you travel around on the ground as opposed to just flying overhead. The skyriding did make it feel a bit more involved and make you pay a little bit more attention to your surroundings at least so I suppose that's as good of a middle ground as we're going to get. Oh also played on a PvP realm back then and yeah, flying mounts may not have instantly killed world pvp but it sure did make it a lot more cheap with people just hovering in the air waiting for a cheap shot.

[@biigdam]

100% agree with u on pvp gearing ive wanted the same thing for years lost ark pvp stat allocation is so good

[@SebiBubble]

TBH I almost stopped watching after "casuals should be able to get the best gear". Really sad that this is the 1st point, because a lot of people will be appalled by it. You make such good points, it is baffling how you arrived at your first conclusion

[@sniffer94]

I personally love World Quests, I honestly think they should add it to the entire world, would make lvling maybe speedier? Instead of que dungeons from 1-60. Or maybe bring back Invasions but smaller scale, not as fancy as Legion Invasions. But make it RNG that it could be any old zone from any xpack. The game in general needs to just get easier, do not design boss fights off addons, make bosses easier and less punishing, instead of 12 mechanics on one boss, make it 3. Would help alot, I don't give two fucks if a Mythic raider gets an easier experiance, I want to do mythic raids too. But can't, cuz it's just insanely sweaty for no reason. Final note, ur channel is big pog! Pray that Asmongold reacts to it! :D Either way subbed :3

[@shieldsftw]

Thanks a lot, bro!

[@nemek2082]

My take as a 10+ years active daily retail player. I partake in almost everything, from KSM, AOTC, Completionism, PvP for elite sets & I read quests, all of'em. - Gearing: At first I thought I liked the upgrade system, now I feel exactly like you do, farming the currency is what you are going for now instead of the gear itself. Doesn't feel good. I would like for either heroic to be where you get BiS gear and Mythic be cosmetics OR make mythic easier for more people to clear. - PvP(it's horrible): Too many buttons with all the arena 123 I run out of keybinds. Too many addons required to understand the cluster fuck that's going on. Gearing is good now IF AND ONLY IF you start with everyone else at the start of a season and everyone is equal, if you start midway or near the end, you got multiple hours of painful experience getting shit on, that alone deters me from playing if I don't get my pvp gear early in the season. imo if you want to play a pvp game play something else. Even though I wish BG's were the main form of PvP in the game, I think it's way more accessible to more people than arenas. ik I'll get my elite sets from 8v8 RBG in TWW no more arenas for me. - World Content: I don't necessarily hate world quests, what I dislike is all the ''be present earn the rewards'' events like time rifts, dreamsurge superbloom etc. The events are cool as they bring people together but everyone is just tuned out following the train and cashing in. The execution of the events is lacking and the philosophy behind ''earning things'' is a big 0 in that board room atm. I feel like they use world content to stuff us with countless amount of cosmetics that no one has to ''earn''. It feels soulless. I would rather have fewer but more meaningful grinds or events that you have to do SOMETHING to earn a reward maybe over a longer time that way it at least feels good to wear it or use later down the line. - Open World: I get the no flying opinion, I personally do my entire questing on a ground mount for the most part so I didn't mind the pathfinder achievement needed to fly. The world felt fuller' during the questing period. However, the way it is in classic... Oh boy. When half your gameplay is mount travel in ugly zones, it really isn't for me, was great back then tho. I think dragon flying is absolutely amazing. I personally would like old pathfinder back but I know it's really unpopular. Mainly I just think they need to work hard on their servers... A big misconception people have is that without flying the world would be full again, that's not true. Sharding is the issue, there are people in the world, you just don't see them, they aren't in the sky flying on mounts making the ground feel empty, the people on the ground aren't being shown to us. That's a massive issue. - Fantasy / Story / immersion: Main story in DF is abysmal in the way it is delivered, acted & voiced etc. Inexcusable. The side quests however are pretty decent. The fantasy of the world in the zones quality is excellent despite a story making it less appealing of an area. Class fantasy in terms of visual, feel and immersion Legion was peak with Class order halls being one of the best things they have ever added to this game. When it comes to class and spec fantasy, I agree with the thought that classes being different is cool and could be improved on, but what classic is and was imo is not a good way to go. It's too drastic in ways that made classes weaknesses something people would use to not invite them to groups. AoE dungeons ? AoE Classes. Having played Classic now, the gatekeeping of it is the most abysmal cancer thing I have ever experienced and it's similar with Retail, however retail's balance is much better and easier to achieve since yes most classes have similar tools therefore single class dominance is lessened however still there. I think peak Class fantasy CANNOT coexist with Parses and performance addons... Sadly. Not in today's game and what people want from it. Parse & ranking culture is hyper dominant in every version of the game today. TWW bringing back a saga like Arthas story line where foreshadowing and character development can actually occur is immense if done well. Looking forward to it. Ps: skit at start is an exit after 15 seconds watched vibe. Does not invite discussion, criticism and feedback like the rest of the video was doing very well. Almost clicked off the video at the start thinking it was another classic player angry about the game with no substance. It wasn't. cheers!

[@shieldsftw]

Yeah, you got a lot of great points! I'd say I agree with pretty much all of that. Thanks for taking the time to share. It's always nice to hear other peoples opinions on these matters.

[@johnjafon2410]

to fix open world just make LFG be a unlock at max level.

[@johannessimola1615]

on pvp side its newer really player vs player its class combo vs class combo and depending on season of pvp there are FotM combos which you can't beat without combination of gear+skills and even then FotM combos pretty much dominate the pvp world. Its most limiting in pvp always how dominant the FotM combos are as they make up the counterplay of the pvp itself which was major part which killed ow1 as it became counterplay picking and you couldn't do it properly on many characters and in wow debending on season classes. looking how mplayer hated wods no flying policy which was another reason wod was seen so bad removing it wouldn't do any good.

[@Wafflekatpwn]

I see people almost in every zone im in, and i'm not in a city. Could this be a low population shard issue?

[@Wafflekatpwn]

Also world quests directly replaced daily's... Your history knowledge here is lacking, those daily's in MOP used to literally be worse

[@GamingPenguin4545]

Unpopular opinion I realise but imo they need to slow down levelling, give players a reason to eplore and engage with the world rather than just sitting in the capital city waiting for groups/dungeon finder

[@StaryBrudnyLis187]

👍

[@cedricagbosonan5041]

Asmongold needs to react to this

[@shieldsftw]

Haha, I don't think he'll find this video but that would be awesome!

[@priestlife8638]

Just try gw2 its everything u want and more!

[@Shadowxjen]

î have no idea on which patch state you did this video, but most of the points are either subjective or totally outdated. Especially the gearing part.

[@Jebewee]

Based

[@shieldsftw]

Ahaha, Hell yeah brotha!

[@OrbObserver]

Nahh you're being a little piss baby.

[@Gobig4l1f3]

Dragon flying is stupid

[@МиланПиперски]

Its neither player vs player or gear vs gear. In an mmorpg it is chatacter vs character. If I have better gear I want to melt all tge people that didnt take the time to get the gear. Otherwise, whats the point of my invested time? Story? xd

[@retributionangel5078]

If you get ridd of gearing it will become about only Addons Blizz wont get rid of phaseing. Caus some (80%) of servers are dead super dead!!!! And some are over filled with players. And to this day, WoW cant handel more than 40 players in a Zone at any time.

[@shieldsftw]

Haha, yeah the server situation gets really bad when u have too many people in one place.

[@Erucus]

Play classic WoW

[@jonathans1738]

Pretty much L takes overall which many of them have been proven thorugh the years they dont work and does not fit into modern wow.

[@biggusdongus]

The furries.

[@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052]

half the points on this list are just the things that everyone else agrees were good changes, and the other half is just him saying dumb shit like "pvp gearing shouldnt exist". methinks hes just grifting for rage bait, low effort trash.

[@StaryBrudnyLis187]

Leveling should be a thing again, the old zones should be made important again, the war between horde and alliance should come back, the equipment makes no fun anymore

[@atcera8714]

I tried dragonflight, it's not even about skill anymore, it's "what cheap thing can your class do"

[@Chungusshroom]

what's wrong with having playable race options? did a vulpera player take your raid spot because of playing better?

[@shieldsftw]

Calm down its a joke my friend :)

[@user-go2ld4ti6r]

​@@shieldsftwwell actually it should be someone like Nightborn then. They looks bad, really pore customisation, also they race abilities are weak... Blizzard be like: let's give a mailbox as racial... and make a toy-mailbox in same patch(Dalaran's mail questline) for everyone for free.