Everything Wrong With Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver In 27 Minutes Or Less

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[@LivingFire_BurningFlame]

There's a constant problem nowadays that so many movies think their job is to set up a sequel, when the actual purpose of a first movie in a series is to earn a sequel.

[@Takaichi666-]

I’d argue some movies don’t ever set up a sequel example thanksgiving it made the movie did what it wanted to do and it ended

[@thefriesofLockeLamora]

Didn't Zachary originally pitch this as an entry into Star Wars as a trilogy?

[@josebrown5961]

@@thefriesofLockeLamoraAnd it would have been worse than the sequel trilogy!

[@wordlesslfiddling]

​@@thefriesofLockeLamora I thought it was supposed to basically be the star wars trilogy and this is supposed to be empire strikes back in away

[@TalentCaldwell]

Actually the main job of the first film is supposed to be to just tell a full and complete story (ideally one that’s worth telling). Whether or not it’s successful enough for a sequel doesn’t mean it should get one.

[@Jonathan_Collins]

Imagine making a movie about "getting the team together" *and none of them talk or interact with each other.*

[@TYCOM125]

Did Wonder Woman speak to Superman at all in BvS? I don't think they did.

[@Gruffey12]

@@TYCOM125 Crazy that you chose that movie to make your point, also - I would argue that that movie is not about getting a team together

[@shawklan27]

They do some smalltalk but they all come across as a bunch of strangers just trying to lighten the mood but quickly ends up being awkward. Like these guys are ashamed to be with one another

[@Alpha23TV]

Zack is the worst modern director. His contrived, childish, corny movies only exist, at this point, to provide fuel for KZbin content creators. 4 movies about *grain* is peak Zack…

[@michaelrobinson996]

@@TYCOM125 a snyder thing then

[@barryevans9486]

You know the movie is horrendous when you have trouble even getting through the Sin of it. You're a braver man than I, Jeremy.

[@SolarMuffin68]

The notification from Netflix that this movie is available was more like an alert for a cinema sins video coming up 😂

[@ITSREALLYNOTYOURFAULT]

😂

[@slinger0083]

With the extended version of part one, I am more and more convinced that Snyder is physically incapable of trimming down a story or editing video footage.

[@999SickBoy666]

Snyder is physically incapable of making a good movie. That's it.

[@ethandollarhide7943]

The Anthony Hopkins Robot that's probably had less than 30 minutes of Screentime throughout both of these movies has more of a personality and is far more interesting than any of the main characters.

[@shaftshaft]

That's only because he hasn't had a "sit down drink beer and tell a story that removes all mystery scene" yet.

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

This is how i imagine AI generated movies to be. Loads of popular cool ideas all mashed together in a way that superficially appears coherent. I guess character emotional development and acting within character are much more difficult for AI to replicate.

[@TobyLandscaping]

Now I can’t help but think the script *was* AI generated.

[@Ragnarok576]

When I saw the first movie I thought it actually was an AI generated script. When I finally made it to the credits and saw it was by Zack Snyder I immediately said “Oh, that makes sense.”

[@justanotherday08]

Chat gbt tried it's best lol

[@kahshah8360]

I considered this being written by an AI really

[@AbbrahKahdavver]

They asked AI to write a script for the Magnificent Seven in space then had it tweaked with dozens of other movie tropes.

[@Jonathan_Collins]

The way I always viewed Zack Snyder was if Michael Bay and his fanbase thought his films were more deep and well made than they actually were.

[@josebrown5961]

Zack Snyder is usually pretty good at adapting a film. Creating original films he really sucks at.

[@WillemenJ]

I see him as a sunk cost fallacy at this point, his fans can’t start admitting he’s a hack this far into his career and will tolerate and even defend his inability to make a decent movie on first try, even though his director’s cuts are just as soulless and shitty, they’re just longer.

[@mclaude3]

He's got a decent visual style. His storytelling is always lacking, he's just a terrible writer

[@DrWatson4]

That’s actually a great point 😂😂

[@DragonSamurai182]

As always the sin is, “Better Help sponsorships”. **DING** +1,000,000,000,000

[@MrRowskey]

Real people are being hurt by this company, as is continues to undermine real therapy.

[@RockyDaTherapist]

@@MrRowskeyNot only that the therapists who do work for them are receiving the lowest pay the company can get away with. The therapists are constantly quitting because they need to survive too.

[@brandongamingtv7545]

The real sin: this movie exists. Also the real sin: THIS FILM (LIKE PART 1) HAS A DIRECTOR'S CUT.

[@kanehodder3459]

Dear God Noooooooooooooo

[@Logan7281X]

😮 Surely, you jest!

[@kanehodder3459]

@@brandongamingtv7545 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lavVfqyhd9Ocmq8si=3j95l11ogPyVADkK

[@Alpha23TV]

@@Logan7281Xno lie. And they are both objectively worse than the “originals” even though they supposedly fix the “issues”. Zack should honestly be kept away from cameras at this point.

[@hypnokitten6450]

wait, it does? omg I hope this one does too, I want to see all that behind-the-scenes wheat growing hotness! omg so much more wheat...

[@Z-Strike026]

To be fair, wheat is a very important resource. Sure, you'll need brick and wood to build roads and settlements, but you'll definitely need wheat to build knights and upgrade cities.

[@stormtempterf8058]

I build on all the mountains so I corner the market on stone!

[@Smileyrat]

Why even do 2:1 triads when you can invade the bank? ;)

[@cadensam7]

Hey, remember when betterhelp was sued for selling private therapy data to online advertisers?

[@SageWon-1aussie]

Wasn't that tomorrow? Sorry, I thought you said "again".

[@steweygrrr]

Undeniable proof that Zack Schneider is a hack, he takes one of the most popular sci-fi settings, blatantly rips it off and _still_ makes hot garbage.

[@TheWarmachine375]

CinemaSins: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?" Zack Snyder: *"I AM THE HYPE!!!"*

[@martinbarrett467]

DBZA reference, nice! 😂

[@BillRanter]

​@@martinbarrett467 Dragon Ball Z 🤔 Alpha????? 🤷😂😂😂 Ok please before anyone comes to roast me, I honestly don't know what DBZA means

[@TalentCaldwell]

@@BillRanterYou are actually pretty close. Except the “A” stands for “Abridged”. DBZA is a KZbin Dragonball Z parody series.

[@Logan7281X]

DBZA, nice.

[@BillRanter]

@@TalentCaldwell Ohh wow, cool lol, thanks 👍

[@crowhogan6854]

Video starts at 0:52 so 52 seconds of adds *DING*

[@Memelord2020]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time this movie steals from Star Wars

[@TriViuM2k22]

Well wasn't it supposed to be a star wars trilogy but it was rejected?

[@kylewilliams3031]

It’s more a Warhammer rip off

[@costanzafaust]

the slrow moiton dirking game is noo joke

[@toddtastes9855]

Ok ok. Last comment, the Arteleus jingle to 🎵Amadeus🎵 was GOLD!!!🤣😂🤣😂

[@toddtastes9855]

Also times THREE: I literally laughed out loud to the ‘dragged the poor black hole from Interstellar into this’ jab!

[@Igorcastrochucre]

I used to think my love of grain was unusual at best and concerning at worst, thankfully this movie put me at ease.

[@BrentlessTV]

Imagine being sponsored by BetterHelp

[@TurinAlexander]

Seriously, right? I'd love if I they'd cut me a massive check for reading a few lines into a microphone!

[@MrRowskey]

@@TurinAlexander BetterHelp engages in deceptive business practices and HIPPA violations. They promote unlicensed and even fake therapists. Their predatory practices and privacy violating data-selling is dangerous. They undermine and deface real therapy.

[@SageWon-1aussie]

​@@TurinAlexanderAnd then weep for all the people that get hurt for that cheque. Then drink heavily.

[@barretblake]

Yes, BetterHelp. When you want all your personal info and mental health problems sold to the highest bidder.

[@rmannayr2129]

AND NOW HE RELEASED THE DIRECTOR CUT NOBODY ASKED FOR!

[@lokieleven374]

diggin trenches when your enemy has space war ships.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Zack Snyder really loves to everything go slow motion huh?

[@TriViuM2k22]

He's incredibly overrated.

[@Memelord2020]

Slow motion = Longer runtime = More time wasted

[@jonathanmarsh8119]

I still don't understand how any spacefaring civilisation doesn't have some kinda of decent food production system on their ships, or ships dedicated to creating food. There should very little need for any planet to create food for ships. Even having harvest planets to supply other planets food doesn't make sense unless you are tapping into Stargate technology. Just the technology to put food into statis long enough to be harvested, packed, shipping, unpacked, and then transported to where it needs to be would be insane.

[@rickstaism]

You realise this movie is make believe right?

[@Libellulaire]

Hollywood movies are so behind for stuff like this. They love the idea of creating civilisations that are very advanced technologically, but they can never expand smartly and interestingly on said technology. Animated movies are way more advanced in that aspect because creators embrace the crazy possibilities such technology could bring. In animated movies (even the ones from 50 years ago), very advanced technologies can allow entire civilisations to create the perfect environment to grow crops no matter the season. That's the kind of things you expect from crazily advanced civilisations. Hollywood writers and directors are so limited in their imagination it's gotten embarrassing at this point. All they can think about is "cool useless effects" or "see through screens that make it so you cannot even see clearly what's going on on the screen."

[@OdinReactor]

PSA: BetterHelp is a scam.

[@MsRedwiz]

Yeah - It's a CinemaSins Sin *ding*

[@vladledrac]

@@MsRedwiz worth at least 200 dings imo

[@cjraymond8827]

They got to pay those bills

[@TurinAlexander]

So? The CS crew needs to get paid for them to be able to keep making these videos. Just skip the damn promo and get on with your life.

[@OdinReactor]

@@TurinAlexander Promoting scams hurts other people. The CS 'crew' gets paid from YT monetization regardless. I bet you were a FTX supporter too.

[@XVlTrey]

No wonder this needs 30 mins. This movie just made things up as they went along whether it made NO sense or contradicted itself 😂 Million sins isn’t enough.

[@mezzerli]

Rly? Better Help? Deep Fall for this channel

[@wkatc007]

So thankful for Cinema Sins for helping know why I still won’t be watching this film or any other in the franchise!

[@Goblincrypt]

when lucas took inspiration from old wars, it was in spirit and ideas. Zack literally took it to heart, with the battleship.

[@CappyLarou]

Thumbs down every time you promote a better health. They are hurting more people than they will ever help.

[@MrRowskey]

Unless you are data-buying company that wants to know vulnerable people's fears and insecurities ... or a KZbinr.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

I want Rebel Moon the even slower harvesting cut.

[@BrianMPrime]

You know I actually forgot Scargiver came out already 😂

[@CaptainJ62]

Djimon Hounsou deserves so much better, really.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Rebel Moon - the result of Warhammer 40k and Star Wars fusion crossover movie in a nutshell.

[@lArhum]

That, girl power, and a big pile of bullshit

[@RamblesBrambles]

The grain is always right

[@toddtastes9855]

ROBOCOP-KINS!!! Dammit Jeremy, that SLAYED ME! I was wondering if there was gonna be a call back to the Anthony Bot-kins/C-Weepio thing from the part One sin!🤣😂🤣😂

[@catbert2412]

That wake up scene they knew was needed to wake up people watching

[@Logan7281X]

Thank you! I sat through the first part, but I'm just not depressed enough to sit through the second part. Not yet at least.

[@EvieWren]

Ooooh, why the betterhelp sponsor.... I mean, I get it, sponsor's a sponsor, but ack.

[@tatsukagemarou]

I can't believe it 😂 Pauly shore from in the army now in the outtakes 🤩🤩

[@CERTIFIEDBABEWRANGLER]

This video should be two parts

[@rickstaism]

I guess technically it was since the movie was in two parts (so far).

[@Memelord2020]

Drinking game: Take a shot for every frame of wheat and grain shown

[@Peekaboo6969]

Had alcohol poisoning in 5 mins :(

[@Power5]

I tried and died. Thankfully I was also resurrected.

[@endcorruption993]

Really? BetterHelp? Why are advertising a scam?

[@maxselcow4180]

They were given a package sponsorship by BetterHelp. CinemaSins has to do a certain number of BetterHelp ads/promotions in order to get paid. It is very likely they signed the package deal before learning about the terrible nature of the therapy company.

[@TurinAlexander]

To get paid...

[@SageWon-1aussie]

Like BetterHelp gets paid by selling your data to insurance companies and advertisers.

[@AshrakAhmed]

@@SageWon-1aussie so this way at least you getting recovering something from BetterHelp.

[@rmannayr2129]

THEY SHOULD STOP LETTING ZACK SNYDER WRITE HIS OWN SCRIPTS!

[@JohnDoe-jc5kt]

Better help, again? Seriously guys, I get that you have to pay the bills, but you don't have to be shills for something like better help. It isn't better and the service is lousy. I'd have more respect if you did raid shadow legends ads.

[@DDT-For-Human]

in case you think the crop defending and training villagers is not from star wars, it is actually from one of the clone war episode

[@GenerationalGaming]

Should have slow-moed the sin tally at the end lol

[@VidVoyeur612]

Love the shoutout to my favorite game, Unreal Tournament. Also, thank you for watching these for us. I’m STILL trying to make it to the 45min mark in the FIRST movie.

[@kevinsmarts9953]

This sins video deserves a director's cut!

[@trailblazing92]

I'm starting to think Zack Snyder bought a wheat farm is trying to get free labor out of it with this movie.

[@HairyMary12]

I forgot I'd seen the film until this video

[@billhumiston9888]

When Djimon Honsou yelled, :"For Sindri!" That would have been a perfect opening for you to say, "I think you meant 'For Sinny!'"

[@rmannayr2129]

SO MUCH WHEAT AND GRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Pro-kesh]

Can’t wait until the directors cut version of this

[@Turbiales]

18:07 Sorry but... no mention at all of the brutal murder of medical staff that was trying to save her life?? It was my point of no return of don't give a shit about the main character at all.

[@jasm.5823]

@6:05 you SHOULD have said GIGGITY! 😂

[@John_Locke_108]

Did know part 2 was out. Aaaand...I've already forgotten about.

[@arielmccarthy4892]

Not lying playing oregon trail on my switch while watching this omg😂😂😂❤u made the joke

[@ChaitanyaShukla2503]

Everytime I see Better help sponsorship, its an automatic dislike.

[@ITSREALLYNOTYOURFAULT]

I'm now convinced people make really crappy movies so that we end up with really great youtube content.

[@mymymy9452]

*...Imagine really having to watch this mixture of old l.P. blended into garbage.*

[@valger_ice7586]

This is the highest sin counter I have ever seen from cinemasins yet I feel it's not high enough

[@mr.vee4127]

Betterhelp deserves bankruptcy

[@andyArt5]

This movie looks so boring that even making fun of it is kind of boring. But thank you for making sure I don’t ever have to watch the full movie.

[@patrickspencer6550]

Please do “EWW Night at the Museum: The Secret of the Tomb” next week because of Shawn Levy’s other film, Deadpool and Wolverine being released. Hugh Jackman even does his Wolverine thing in that movie too. Also, please give one sin off for Robin Williams.

[@dion8895]

Zach Snyder's overuse of slo-mo really shows that he imitates things he sees in other movies that he thinks look cool, but doesn't understand what those techniques are for. The Purpose of Slow Motion is to show the details of action that would be lost to the audience if played at full speed; so unless the details demand that extra attention, slo-mo just wastes time. Zach Snyder seems to think that if you show something uninteresting in slo-mo, that alone makes it more interesting somehow.

[@SageWon-1aussie]

Someone told him everything looks better in slow motion. Which is often true.

[@OcihEvE]

They made the mistake of telling me there will be a directors cut. It pretty much voided out both of these movies.

[@Peekaboo6969]

All right 8 hrs of grain!

[@whyequalswhat]

Why? Just because a “directors cut” exists doesn’t excuse this movie for being a massive pile of shit.

[@OcihEvE]

@@whyequalswhat I watched Prisoners of the Ghostland because Sofia Boutella. This is an upgrade 1000%. I will absolutely sub when the directors cut comes out.

[@TalentCaldwell]

@@OcihEvE They both came out 2 weeks ago (August 6th).

[@Sasukefanboy102]

Pure LOVE man !!!!! I like this kind of Movie Sins with million of sins :D

[@ANDYWOUNDSABRXS]

They should have made a Gluten free version of this movie, it would be about 30 mins and easily watchable while taking a dump

[@bent3736]

Hey the extended lineup intros in postseason baseball are kinda fun and shouldn't be compared to any part of this disaster of a movie. Thank you.

[@AngelVoice23]

"Why do they call it the Vomitarium, Phil?" Immediate ad for Cook Unity.

[@mrckapm2241]

*HE'S TURNING THE WHEEL!!!*

[@mo4090042]

I'm surprised you didn't mention how our main protagonist is a child murderer and would've stayed on the antagonist side of she wasn't betrayed

[@geophrian]

"You were not her assassin for she is still alive." John Hinckley must be pissed to learn he spent all that time in prison for nothing.

[@Shjeshje]

The major problem: way too few slow motion shots of grain. Should just made that the whole movie.

[@Toramt]

19:58 not coal but organic matter -- see all the bones. Though it never explains _why_ the Kali has to be fed with bones...

[@benjaminmayer6152]

Can we take a second to acknowledge that the Motherworld's walker tanks are literally almost copy and paste lifted from the video game Destiny? I noticed it when I wasted hours of my life watching this, and sure enough, the tanks look exactly like the Fallen walker tanks in Destiny.

[@rhinogames2320]

This was the most ive ever watched of this movie and even this was a struggle. Also zach looked at 40k and said ok do that but worse

[@stargirl7646]

You know it’s a rough movie when even this video seems too long to watch 😂

[@AshrakAhmed]

the bridge scene @15:00 is the reason why that general (don't know his name and don't care) lost his command and man, the sheer incompetence!

[@ashleybrooke2087]

Thanks, Cinemasins. Now I have to go watch that Auralnauts Zack Snyder's Star Wars video again.

[@paulshri8609]

Oh Zack...you showed such promise...😢

[@m.thompson6935]

IDC how many times I need to say this: I mainly watch movies these days just to properly enjoy these reaction & analysis videos. These movies try sooooo hard to build worlds & garner as much revenue as possible, but they are rarely worth watching.

[@joewilson3393]

I'm just realizing this movie is just The Magnificent Seven, but in space.

[@JamesBruceWayne]

I had heard these movies were terrible, but 1 million + sins is just damn

[@sammyfreeman8494]

This is now how you do "Show, don't tell."

[@ScooterinAB]

Star Wars: A series of stories about good vs evil, the weakness that lives in Man's hearts, and the hope invested in redemption, all set against a space adventure. Rebel Moon: Fucking farming. Two movies about fucking farming.

[@fulcrum6760]

Then there’s Andor.

[@JordanWoolf]

Hey, CinemaSins! Hope to see a well-deserved video for _Navy SEALs_ (1990) soon!

[@kanden27]

You're the cream of the crop, Cinemasins!

[@mothman_slayer4217]

Instead of using the actual wheat as a barrier around the village they could’ve stored the wheat where the ship was stored and filled the bags with dirt and rocks instead 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻

[@andrewah15]

Thanks Cinema Sins for highlighting how dumb Rebel Moon part 2 is. 😂😂

[@rasengan7738]

Now do the Director's Cut of both movies (Couldn't watch more than 10 mins, would love to know if its somehow better or worse than original).

[@Peekaboo6969]

Worse like anything Snyder directs without having his hand held

[@BlubberHorst]

Isn't the directors cut just these movies but everything is in slow motion?

[@Ruffian_Xion]

How could having MORE of either of them possibly make them better?

[@mathewgriffiths1870]

The fact that they killed the medics who were only trying to help them was also pretty sin worthy, but appreciate there was a lot to cover in this bloated shit show.

[@remo7034]

You should redo the bonus round and add at least 1,000 for each wheat shot...

[@mabusxb856]

When you look up the word "bastedize" in the future, there will be a picture of these movies.

[@lokieleven374]

the fires of aisle 8.... omg XD

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

I won't be surprised if, in the future, the raccoons makeup would become actually a reallife habit.

[@lordmangurrian8487]

It is said that if you remove all slow-mo scenes from Snyder films, the EWW videos from Cinema Sins become longer than the actual films.

[@spikysmoothness]

These movies are proof that Zack Snyder needs to fucking quit.