Everything Wrong With Saw III In 16 Minutes Or Less

Today we return to the Saw franchise in order to thoroughly confuse ourselves trying to keep up with it. Sins aplenty.
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[@benmcginley135]

"You know you're in a Saw movie when disturbing images flash at you as if Jigsaw put epilepsy itself into one of his traps." GOLD

[@traviswartooth]

I read this at the exact moment he said it. Weeird

[@angrycat6954]

He shoved the sock in his mouth in order to not bite off his tongue. People used to do this during the Revolutionary war when they didn't have anesthetics but they had to amputate a limb

[@tammyforbes2101]

Sunset Waifu I had to do that when I got in a motorcycle wreck, cause I was underage and the hospital couldn’t locate my parents. I laid on a wooden stretcher for 18 hours with 12 broke bones, 5 of which where my leg and femur bones, and a compound fracture to my right arm with nothing but ice chips and Tylenol. I was ok the first few hours until the shock wore off, then omg 😮 I learned what true pain was that day, and they gave me a rag to bite down on so I didn’t fuck up my teeth. You don’t know pain until you have seen your own bones hanging out of your body or your leg bent 90 degrees the wrong way. After it was all over a female doctor told me that women who had kids natural and had broke there femur bones said the pain was about the same so she joked that I knew what the pain of having a kid felt like! And if your wandering why my parents couldn’t be reached this was in 1990 before cell phones and my mom was on a church bus headed 3 states away and my father was on his way to Detroit. The reached my dad 14 hours after the accident and he drove from Detroit Michigan to Jellico TN. In 4 hours and 20 minutes. He was in a 440 Plymouth GTX and he said it hardly ever fell under 140mph the whole 450 miles. He had even told them on the phone to do whatever they needed to do but they for some odd reason waited till he came and signed to treat me to do anything.

[@mayormccheese2641]

Tammy Forbes Damn, that’s a painful story. You endured pain worse than some of the traps in Saw!

[@realrealwarpet]

Definetly worse the amandas. Or the maze wire. Probably not the guy who got set on fire....or maybe it is. Ive never been set on fire before.

[@SuperDuperSP]

@@tammyforbes2101 🍆🍌

[@meginmd]

@@tammyforbes2101 r/thathappened

[@mckenziehunt9074]

I love how I can watch the dead meat kill count for a movie then watch cinema sins for the same movie

[@hann1515]

jordin 1) i did the exact same thing 2) i like your profile pic ||-//

[@jackd5779]

And understand the movie well without ever actually watching it

[@tyrone8214]

Glad im not the only guy who does this

[@itsoracle]

lima bean SAME

[@itsoracle]

Turtledanceman same

[@MyouMoorlord]

S.A.M.F. JEFF Dead Meat fans know!

[@Imcryingconstantly]

I know dead meat

[@lilusername7038]

S low A ss M utha F uckin Jeff

[@Looptehloop]

James

[@TheFlock83]

Watched number 4 before this, said out loud “ Slow Ass Mother Fucking Jeff” when he asked who’s this at the end it

[@jordynn7137]

Myou Moorlord YESSSSSS

[@bloodnangels]

me: "oh so hes just gonna rip the chains off that works-" *realizes one of the chains are attatched to his lower jaw* "OH HEEELLL NOOOO"

[@FeralRaccoon.]

There's also two in he's anchilles ankles that when he rips out he will be paralized then bleed out from his other injuries

[@TheDunsparceGames]

oh yeah let’s not forget that the door was welded shut so none of it mattered anyway

[@amandasoddy9372]

@@HiddenRealm I'll rake your word for it.

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

I actually thought he did get out of the trap and that’s why the door being welded shut was the big deal

[@tutorialidiotaknak]

You know shit's going down in flames, when you hear a sentence starting with "Also, also"

[@hleghe810]

Szabó Milán when was that?

[@tutorialidiotaknak]

At exactly 4:20 dear @Hleghe

[@tutorialidiotaknak]

At exactly 4:20, dear Hleghe

[@BijouluvsJewels1234]

Szabó Milán LMFAOOOOOO EXACTLY! I love that!

[@CLuvTravels]

I love the fact that everytime Jeff decided to save these people they were already dead or damn near

[@StrikegoldVI]

If jigsaw used his omnipotent abilities to be a personal investigator, he’d be very successful

[@nick37104]

"Tobin Bell stars in, 'The Dark Rockford Files,'"

[@oisinmc3218]

I'd ask for a "Everything wrong with The Emoji Movie" But I don't even want you to feel that pain...

[@TheCunningStunt]

Yes not needed. Everything wrong with it is listed in the title. The end.

[@theamazingoppo4918]

I loved the emoji movie

[@conaireparsons9672]

they cant sin emoji movie because they will get a copyright strike. every frame of the movie is a sin.

[@seannyyx]

He'll be like "im giving this a 1000 sins just for being called 'Emoji'" PRPRPRPRPRPRPRPPRRPRPRPRPRPRPPRPRPRRPPRPRPRPRRPRPRPRPRPING

[@lilydarlow1951]

You would need to play the whole film.

[@NewMessage]

Saw this one coming.

[@taliaprice1909]

New Message WOW!

[@cooliomendez88]

^was only good the first time

[@fnfallout5664]

Hahaaaa. This pun never gets old.

[@lamontmcdaniels322]

Ha good one

[@ashleydavid1948]

+New Message Hey , I Saw what you did there .

[@jasonbleau4646]

I gotta say is messy as this entry and future entries in saw franchise are I do love the freezer trap. In my opinion it's one of the more creative traps that Jigsaw has ever set and it represents the cold heart that its victim had in running away from the scene of an accident instead of reporting it. To me THAT was always the beauty of Jigsaws madness, his creativity in making people face literal representations of their sins.

[@Rougarou99]

It also represents the cold attitude that Jeff held for the witness, judge, and drunk driver. After all, the traps were meant to show Jeff that, even though those people ruined his life and were responsible for either his son's death or lack of justice, they were still human.

[@melinarichardson2075]

whole english essay

[@FGame2star]

it was actually fun to watch

[@Ruby0465]

Yes, one of my favorites from the franchise

[@made-line7627]

@@melinarichardson2075 Is it?

[@doubleace11554]

2:55 Jigsaw knew about the traps He didn't knew that Amanda would do them unsolvable

[@lukeskywalker5392]

He talked to amanda about her setting up unsolvable traps. But yeah. He didnt know of that. Makes sense.

[@thepickygamer4450]

@@osiris8680, if he know Jigsaw wouldn't have chosen Amanda.

[@kittysalinas6298]

Luke Skywalker no he didn’t know, that’s why he let her die

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

So he knows everything about everybody but did not know Amanda was not following the rules?

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

@@nothinmoretosay True that was because by that time it was easier and more believable to do that. I still don’t understand why they killed him off when it was obvious they were going to need him going forward.

[@ElementalArcher]

Good. CinemaSins say Amanda's test is too easy. Seriously, this always make mad how easy her game was. Didn't required body mutilation, a third party or fight against other participators.

[@wibbywoo6176]

Adam Shepherd it required cutting into her still living boyfriend to get a key for the object that was literally about to rip her head open. Nothing difficult about that at all!

[@stephensoltis4652]

Venus fly trap was the easiest in my opinion. He had all the tools to do it, he knew exactly what he had to do and it was one of the easier ones.

[@soup7917]

@@stephensoltis4652 Amanda's was much easier though... venus fly trap he had to cut out his own eye that's not easy, whereas amanda's didn't require any physical pain

[@stephensoltis4652]

Obi-Wan Kenobi she had to kill somebody tho. I see where you’re coming from but I Amanda didn’t know where exactly the key was. I think in Amanda’s the key was harder to find but took less pain and I think that it would be easier to get out of the Venus fly trap than the reverse bear reap.

[@soup7917]

@@stephensoltis4652 It really wouldn't. jigsaw said on the tape that the key was hidden in the guys stomach and there was a giant question mark painted on his body... I'd rather that than need to gauge my eyes out Make your choice lol

[@SaintsBro217]

Only sin I disagree with is on Jeff burning his mementos. That shit would be hard for any parent that lost their child. Honestly, I don't even understand why Jeff is there, he didn't do anything wrong.

[@Afterglowy]

I think it's because he never really moved on from his son's death, though that's still not a good enough reason imo

[@TheXxRinoxx]

He's become an alcoholic and he neglects the daughter so he does something wrong

[@KuciMane]

He never moved on, and neglected his daughter and wife.

[@redacted798]

KuciMane and without him the whole the doctor isn't important to me, she's important to you thing wouldn't worth. If he was a random person the doctor getting shot wouldn't have same reaction I think

[@Lilliaace]

It's because he became consumed with grief and anger to the point where he started to neglect himself and everyone else in his life (including his daughter and wife). In a flashback there's a scene where is daughter tries getting his attention because she needs something but Jeff is TOTALLY zoned out and just mutters something, and the daughter walks away disheartened.

[@guy4588]

imagine if he wakes up and hears “wanna play a game”

[@Spookythereaper3]

@bas1c I'd obviously just be like: "My mind's playing tricks on me again.", before going back to sleep 😂

[@unmusicallyinclined]

i actually liked this movie, sue me. or sin me. but i like it mostly because of the john amanda plot. how this was amanda’s test. how john said she was likely the only connection he had. how she was tortured the entire time she was working for him, internally struggling and tortured with her thoughts and emotions about everything. i just really liked the writing behind amanda’s test, how it was set up, done really well in my opinion.

[@maria-zy2pf]

when i tell you i was SHOCKED at the end when the plot twist is revealed. that was the best part of the movie

[@coralineparmentierpianist]

"She went to drug user to President of AV Club at Torture Porn University in a matter of months" That was awesome ! XD

[@riyyanahmed6246]

Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace I saw this comment just as he said it

[@mrWade101]

Just saying - The sock is to make sure you don't break your teeth/bite off your tongue or other similar problems. It basically stops you from biting down too hard.

[@void8713]

He is logically thinking while illogically gonna bleed to death. hahahah

[@vectorperkins6685]

I lost it at "Jigsaw is just being a dick at this point."😂

[@shannonbanks628]

Facts😂

[@FreakEating]

The trap that Kerry couldn't get out of was super frustrating.

[@desert6975]

Hello checkmarked person

[@hisrealgrave9579]

which one is kerry? sorry i forget.

[@chibi_heartful]

@@hisrealgrave9579 the detective girl in the Angel trap

[@connorgolsong290]

Imagine having your fucking rib cage torn out by force. That would hurt.

[@eddiew2325]

@@connorgolsong290 not really I just found out your rib cage is only useful if you're grilling bbq ribs

[@justanotherchannelonyoutub126]

Saw 1: killer makes it so people are grateful to be alive Saw 2 and onward: f$&k it! Let's murder people in elaborate ways

[@madingding]

justanotherchannelonyoutube It does make sense though. Jigsaw's followers don't really have a reason to kill. They just want to kill.

[@madingding]

justanotherchannelonyoutube They don't understand the lesson

[@GunpowderCoffee]

I just got my wisdom teeth pulled and the wounds hurt a bit, since the cuts were pretty deep and one was kinda stuck to the jaw and just because i know this little bit of pain i feel really weird seeing the torture scenes, since they are just that bit more relate-able. Anyway. Happy scary month everyone!

[@ifyouregonnadoitdoitwithfl8607]

GunpowderCoffee Happy scary month to you too dude.

[@SuperShanko]

I’m alive. I understand their pain as well.

[@conaireparsons9672]

im gonna get my wisdom teeth remove in 2 days... weird...

[@Shiirow]

I got 4 wisdom teeth pulled (two that had to be cracked into pieces and pulled out piece by piece) with barely an ounce of novocaine, then was prescribed over the counter level tylenol for the pain. All in one sitting. I know pain, and these movies are tedious and boring with excessive amounts of useless gore. Id rather watch paint dry than any Saw movie.

[@corona02]

GunpowderCoffee I get mine out this Friday, did it hurt ?

[@danieldhuart9858]

Actually, when Amanda had to dig the key out of her boyfriend's stomach, he wasn't already dead, he was paralyzed and he was conscious while she was cutting him open so that sin was invalid.

[@Irgendwelche5]

He got so many things wrong in this video, its almost painful to watch

[@danieldhuart9858]

Light Yagami yeah this guy didn't even pay attention to the movie.

[@justdaniel8239]

Light Yagami And what exactly besides that one thing?!? What about actually trying to defend you statements?!?

[@Irgendwelche5]

Randomgames with Daniel Honestly I don't have the time for this, but I remember that almost every second sin is logically false or just wrong from a storytelling point of view. Just watch the movie and pay attention to it, then come here and watch the video again, if you aren't too stupid you should recognise the bullshit sins by yourself

[@sepywishes1120]

Go watch the first CinemaSin's Saw video it is mentioned by the narrator that he was alive and how ridiculous it was.

[@insignificantperson8514]

I’m pretty sure in Kerry’s trap, jigsaw made it first and Amanda messed with it without his knowledge so she didn’t have a chance to escape.

[@algill333]

At 2:46, if you watch the other Saw movies (I forgot which one) they explain they have a mixer for doing the voice because the Detective who ends up taking over both Jigsaw and Amanda uses it. [-1]

[@ignoredwife4428]

I literally had a Jigsaw Ad

[@pissfi]

Same.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Yup. Because CimenaSins is a mainstream channel on KZbin

[@narata1541]

Explosive Towels It's close to Halloween. It shouldn't be surprising.

[@Masswesker2]

Explosive Towels so you could have figuratively or metaphorically gotten a jigsaw ad?

[@Kranky2]

I already saw this once but i wanna see the criticism he has for the movie.

[@thatguythatcomments1608]

Pun intended when you said saw lol????

[@isaacortiz6222]

I always go back to see these just to see the criticism 😂

[@ianmatheus9191]

i saw what ya did there

[@ReubenGreenMovies]

I’ve already seen*

[@carolinefoley8731]

@@ReubenGreenMovies you must be fun at parties

[@kaypolanco15]

a sin to cinema sins for not knowing that the sock is so he doesn't break his teeth from the pressure of pressing them together

[@dusksunsetio6042]

You....do realize he was putting the sock in his mouth to ease the pain right?

[@thekyleprojekt7996]

@@dusksunsetio6042 putting a sock in your mouth doesn't ease the pain. A common reflex of any large pain is for the person yo shout out but then clamp down their jaw. The sock stops you from breaking your teeth, straining your jaw muscles, or biting off your tongue

[@mariomoneta2833]

@Impaleification what pain do you suffer cutting a stomach? Nothing...

[@mariomoneta2833]

@Impaleification yeah but he says physical pain "physical" and you see amanda killing people in the movies, why she was gonna suffer mental pain? is your live or do it...

[@mariomoneta2833]

@Impaleification two things, the discussion is that the trap is easy bc is his roomate only and bc he say him is dead, you cant say than she know he is alive bc we see his eyes open in the first movie, and the pain is nothing compared with another traps from saw franchise

[@Phlimbob]

I watched all the movies in a huge marathon, so I really appreciated the connectivity of the storyline.

[@mintwestwood7827]

Me too, even if the actual movies aren't good, the story is great

[@jamesliggins891]

except how many things have they retconned or just brushed away that make no sense? lol

[@Henrique.Souza0601]

​@@jamesliggins891yet it's better than rebooting the franchise or having random people becoming Jigsaw lol

[@EricWashingtonTV]

In Amanda's trial, that was her boyfriend she had to cut open, and he was actually alive, but under some sort of muscle-relaxer that did not allow him to move. That's why it was supposed to be "hard".

[@eloy89]

Cecil from Saw IV was her boyfriend. The guy on the ground was her cellmate.

[@TM__1566]

I think i read somewhere that he was her Drug Dealer....

[@wendyrodriguez5951]

He was just another drug addict that was a patient at the clinic Jill worked at.

[@clorbdorb1245]

When I first heard it, I thought he said "soulmate," but it was "cellmate," so not her boyfriend, though he *was* alive

[@raylop80731]

Either way the most important was that he was alive

[@jonathangarcia5279]

I couldn't care less about this series but boy do I love the "You've got to help him Jeff!" line and "You're not Jigsaw bitch!". It's hilarious to me.

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

“You’ve got to help him” had me really laughing. He had so much conviction, no pun intended,like he actually gave a shit.

[@jonathangarcia5279]

@@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE I know, right!

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

​@@jonathangarcia5279If you're looking for another unintentionally funny bit of dialogue I really enjoyed Josh in the shotgun carousel from Saw 6 His reaction was priceless

[@shr3dl0rd17]

Personally this is my second favourite in the franchise, I loved seeing the setup for the 1st trap and watching Amanda's and John's relationship grow and I liked the Jeff trial

[@nick37104]

The end ruins it for me. Amanda was cunning and clever in "Saw II," The setup was brilliant, and it was completely undone. Amanda was written into a corner of being a psychopath basically just to kill her off. She demonstrated none of the psychological hang-ups in this film in "Saw II." Every story about her failings, every tear she shed when someone died was to fool everyone else into believing she was in danger just like the rest of them. She went from completely carrying off the game in "Saw II" to building unwinnable traps and cursing out John. Frankly, the John/Amanda relationship comes down to Bell and Smith. They met prior to filming, just the pair of them, and lived as the characters. Going out and doing things they felt John and Amanda would have done when not constructing a game. It was thanks to their efforts that the relationship between the two of them pays off as well as it does in the film.

[@SpaceDuckQuack]

Please Sin Everything, Everything!

[@MasterAnakinSkyWalker]

Space Duck - That'd be an interesting title. "Everything wrong with Everything Everything"

[@randomcrybaby3607]

Space Duck always hated saw movies

[@graysonchristian2668]

Why? It was a solid movie

[@SpaceDuckQuack]

Grayson Christian everything everything was? Uh, you must've been watching another movie

[@luniette]

"every movie has a sin"

[@RollingxBigshot]

8:57 he wasn't dead, he watched her while she cut him open

[@sherrybernard462]

He knows. He watched the first 2.

[@wibbywoo6176]

Sherry Bernard and then sinned this one because she didn't want to cut into him "even though he was dead"

[@autumnuminum]

Got a few more things on Kerry's trap. 1) in the tape jigsaw claimed that the key would dissolve in a matter of seconds. It had to have been set up prior making this questionably invalid information. Also with how long it takes her to even go for the key it should be dissolved. 2) We can clearly see the acid is just hung by chains and can easily swing back and forth. Why would she not dump at least some of it out (sparing the key obviously) to keep he entire hand from being submerged in the acid.

[@Rougarou99]

On the first point, if the key would have dissolved in a matter of seconds, it would have been useless the moment it dropped into the acid, as the key would be corroded enough to prevent it from being used properly on the lock. Either it was not an acid that would dissolve the key, and the comment was made to get Kerry to hurry, which makes sense, given Kramer wants people to survive and learn from his games, or it was an acid that would dissolve the key quickly, which makes sense, given it was an Amanda trap. On the second point, most of the series traps can be outsmarted without self mutilation, the apprentice traps not withstanding. However, it is hard to think outside the box for other solutions when you have just awoken from a drug-induced stupor, are undoubtedly scared to death, and are only given a limited amount of time to solve the traps. And it is not like Kramer is trapping and testing Mensa members. The only viable method the victims usually have is to listen to Kramer's tapes for the possible solution.

[@thedewboyzz]

The key would just fall to the floor if she tipped the jar; she already has her ribcage pinned and her arms suspended. She wouldn’t be able to reach it

[@zachsands8869]

2:47 My guess is that she showed Jigsaw how the traps would work, but wouldn't reveal the parts that made them impossible. Then he recorded them.

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

He’s a pretty observant guy. I’m pretty sure he would have been on to her by this point also he even points out how he fixed her errors so I’m pretty sure he was watching her to make sure she did the traps right He even made sure Hoffman was punished for breaking the biggest rule postmortem

[@zachsands8869]

​@@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSEGood point. Perhaps he let her do it, allowing her choices to eventually get herself killed.

[@cheedor]

Horror Movies? Active Cinema Sins? Thankyou

[@ORIGINALFBI]

CrispyChedda This isn't Horror it's torture porn.

[@greenlog7023]

DiddleDorp so... snuff porn?

[@agonleed3841]

Aron The Terminator No. that's what people are tryong to make it. Horror is HellRaiser. Saw isn't horror. Its false advertising to be horror.

[@hookoffthejab1]

Cinemasins is extremely active and consistent. They always only do 1 video a week in Sept

[@jamesrelich8210]

Seriously? Hellraiser? That movie isn't scary at all. It's gory, and gross as hell, but it's not scary. And even worse, it's boring.

[@e-man9211]

The reason Amanda shot the surgeon was cuz Hoffman was going to tell Jigsaw about Amanda and her junkie lover that killed Jigsaws wife’s baby, so Amanda had to kill the surgeon in order to keep it a secret.

[@gentblue]

This is true but it was probably added to make Saw III make more sense.

[@TheWaggishAmerican]

But we don't know that yet- they don't sin based on future films, but on the current one and any predating it.

[@thegodfather768]

Why Hoffman want the surgeon dead?

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

​@@TheWaggishAmericanactually they do sin it in Saw whatever (6?) where Hoffman reads the note Jill left on his desk Jeremy brought it up and sinned the notion this threat was that big of a deal as John probably already figured it out being omnipotent and even if not this far into her progress he wouldn't rage and throw her into a trap

[@ItsFireTiger]

I like to think that is part of why Amanda was in her trap. She was drugged up and all, then when the death of his unborn child happened, is when her & the other guy got into their traps. Cause there's no way he didn't know about her involvement. So technically Hoffman didn't have anything on Amanda that John didn't know...

[@willstimpson6815]

my new favorite quote, "would they have obi-waned him?"

[@salmanamjad9406]

Jigsaw: I want to play a game Person: can’t Jigsaw: why not Person : I have mac

[@blackparademistress1]

Or “my mum says no”

[@noone2358]

what the hell does that mean

[@washingbasket9702]

@@noone2358 think it's some sort of reference to gay midgets.

[@ss-nu3qf]

Congrats, you stole a comment

[@shaqdaddy5422]

Stolen!!!

[@Zoologic21]

We can conclude that Amanda did the same thing as Hoffman did when setting up his trap for Seth Baxter in Saw V. He used his own voice and altered it digitally to make it sound like Jigsaw. I think Amanda did the same, just might've took more effort than usual. That or this trap was originally meant to work, she just rigged it afterwards to keep Kerry from escaping.

[@MyHorselover19]

I think it was originally supposed to work but Amanda rigged it to be inescapable. This may have been the trap that alerted John Kramer to Amanda's decisions to give the victims no escape from death. Most likely John made the recording for Kerry.

[@cloudiiblossom]

oh like she did with the first trap

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

Hoffman actually did too in this movie. He is seen tweaking the Rack and John told him to compensate or the trap would have too much force and to consult him in future when tweaking traps

[@CapnCinnamonBunVideogamemaster]

You guys should do "Everything Wrong with The Emoji Movie"

[@PalataoBola0]

Cap'nCinnamonBun 1k sins are not enough

[@Adi-fh8ed]

Cap'nCinnamonBun that was already done..

[@Oldschoolgamer13]

Cap'nCinnamonBun That would be too easy.

[@ej4j4i38wGwgeb8]

We've waited forever... WE WANT THE EMOJI MOVIE PLEEEASE

[@minecraftpartydunker]

They say they've been making it since it came out. It is expected to be finished by 2027... hopefully.

[@traexbl3771]

"Maybe Jigsaw meant a Cuban Minute" Ahh had a good laugh cause I remembered him doing Fate of the Furious 😂😂

[@darthrap456]

Yeah that one got me 😂😂 I’m definitely gonna use the term “cuban something” from now on lol

[@ericmatthews1022]

That moment when you have to use a “SAW” to cut off your foot. Life tip: Kids, don’t play with insanely enlarged ice blocks that can obviously smash-in your skull.

[@Rougarou99]

The reverse bear traps are still fair game, right?

[@Mad77max77]

so many traps are not escapable, therefore ruining the purpose of redeeming themselves right from the start... that's just a gore festival.

[@BrynnBeverly]

But that's the whole point when Amanda takes over for Jigsaw. Her traps are inescapable which John reprimanded her for, basically calling her a murderer. All of John's traps at least had a way out. The sequels did go ham with the gore though

[@nick37104]

@@BrynnBeverly Not all of them. Eric's was escapable. But he chased her down and for all intents and purposes looked like he was going to kill her. Even then, she didn't finish him off.

[@ilovemoms1190]

Amanda rigs them so they couldn't escape and so she was tested again and she died

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

@@nick37104 it is kind of funny how the end of a movie and beginning of the movie can be so different He was in the exact same predicament but seamlessly shattered his foot yet Adam never thought of the idea and he was the one chained by the toilet

[@Heretic_Jones]

you wanna talk about the brain surgery scene being disgustingly excessive? what about the autopsy at the beginning of saw iv? no one needed to see jigsaw taken apart organ by organ. I get that this series is torture porn, but at what point does enough become enough?

[@MamaMOB]

Local Panda 2010

[@Gamelover254]

No offense, but a dead body being taken apart isn't torture porn, it's just gore.

[@annaliese3715]

Local Panda never . . . because it's torture porn. Duh

[@ShaM3fullyCha0tic]

Never apparently, since they’re already bringing the series back.

[@lemon_dahlia3530]

Local Panda never!!! And also he will most likely sin that in the next one. Yeah he's a bit slow. You have to remember that this is 3 out of 8 its gonna take awhile

[@acidic_soda]

Also, that guy in the chains has no way of tearing out that one that is currently THROUGH his jaw bone yet he still tears through all the other chains.

[@haroldinho8792]

I just realised that Jeff could’ve cut lynns neck trap with the saw

[@BrynnBeverly]

Yeah but Amanda said one wrong move and it would trigger, which would've killed them both

[@christianhustad7055]

No... it would’ve gone off

[@haroldinho8792]

@@christianhustad7055 🧢

[@willeeuhm]

I’m surprised you didn’t sin the fact that Jigsaw captured/tortured a guy solely because the guy was too sad about his son getting hit by a car.

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

He was being borderline abusive to his daughter. I think he needed a reality check.

[@locomonkey7839]

FUCKIN FINALLY I LOVE THE SAW ONES

[@locomonkey7839]

Nicks Gaming right back at u m8

[@lothricknight4221]

0:40 clenching your teeth does help with pain...

[@maelstromofchaos2489]

No, but clenching your teeth is an involuntary reaction to pain. The reason that people placed leather in people's mouths during surgeries before anesthetics became mainstream was to prevent people from biting their tongues off.

[@Raych666]

@@maelstromofchaos2489 People use to have surgeries performed while awake and aware? 😬😨😰

[@maelstromofchaos2489]

@@Raych666 Yes. Before conventional anesthetics were introduced, emergency surgeries such as war injuries often had to be performed while the patient was completely conscious.

[@gwenpicchi5719]

As someone who lost their best friend to a drunk driver, Timothy's trap was way more satisfying than it would be for a normal person.

[@maagic28]

sry men

[@minnamandariini4843]

So you are basically S.A.M.F Jeff

[@gwenpicchi5719]

@@minnamandariini4843 Remind me again what "S.A.M.F" stands for?

[@skyfire8950]

@@gwenpicchi5719”Slow-Ass Motherfucking Jeff”

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

​@@gwenpicchi5719I think it's from dead meat. Everybody that calls him that talks about dead meat and then talks about how he was a slug I imagine it's Stupid Ass MFer or Slow Ass MFcking thru the context I've seen

[@eva-qy7ne]

Please sin *IT* next :)

[@papagrande7191]

Evangelina Voma your pf pic terrible

[@Gabiyi]

IT 1990 first

[@FurretInASuit]

movie isn't even out of theatres yet

[@mdr12342]

Evangelina Voma g

[@drakeo2k821]

Kylecan81 are you stupid it came out

[@Markchadsend]

You should make an "everything wrong with IT 2017"

[@sumptinmagic3273]

I’m sure he will when it comes out

[@eoincorish4601]

mark grayson With what?

[@sanna9062]

Eoin Corish It

[@eoincorish4601]

Sanna What?

[@sanna9062]

Eoin Corish It. The movie with the friendly clown.

[@walterschwede2962]

2:50 Since Audacity wasn't available back then she might recorded herself speaking fast as you do on a fast rolling recording tape, so if you play it in normal speed it's spoken slow and - deep. Hope that helps. :D

[@JamesAxis13]

Kerry could've tipped the jar of acid forward draining some of it thus reducing the pain of getting the key. I know the game was unwinnable but I'm just saying.

[@SleezWay]

INCOOM13 Thats what I was thinking.

[@christineye1816]

In the movie she tried but couldn't 😫

[@JamesAxis13]

Ziyi Ye I just watched the movie. She didn't try it. She just stuck her hand in it all *Yeehaw*

[@christineye1816]

Hmmm I thought she tried to shake the jar..Maybe my memory got blurry..Anyways, hard to expect her to think logically in that situation though

[@wibbywoo6176]

The jar was secured in place, it couldn't be moved.

[@ExodiaTheD1HATER]

Looks like yall "saw" right through this movie failure no ill stop

[@jtthom4s]

Sith Lord Gaming With Jzon Ford D A C H I E

[@dmrc43]

Sith Lord Gaming With Jzon Ford I saw what you did there😃

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Sith Lord Gaming With Jzon Ford HaHa...I see what you did

[@KIMG69]

Sith Lord Gaming With Jzon Ford DACHIE fan spotted

[@KIMG69]

THREEEEP! Take your comment, read it to Terry, you now have a COMMENTARY. I’ll stop!

[@scarletnight4554]

Last time I was this early, saw 3d, was the last saw movie

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

scarlet night last time I was this early, Texas Chainsaw Massacre was still in theaters.

[@syntheacrete3957]

Completely unrelated to your comment but what a wonderful OC you have!

[@hecetewest5411]

Not to cause an internet fight, but what interests you about pony’s? Is it not a kids show?

[@scarletnight4554]

Dylan Will there's some great characters in the show, and lots of great episodes. And I joined the fandom because of the KZbinrs and the fanfics

[@MarvelousPhilly]

I forgot it was even a Saw 3D. I guess because I hated 3D movies so much. That shit annoys the fuck out of my eyes. I never watched one again after taking my little cousins to see that Transformers "3D" movie (I know that's not the title of that movie. I honestly forgot what it was).

[@curtoonstudios3809]

Saw III: How slow can you go? -Dead Meat Guy

[@moonlightrobbery]

Killing Amanda Young should've been one of them.

[@nick37104]

@Jacob Pleggenkuhle Based on the writing, I suppose. But for me, that was one of the first things that turned me off the franchise. The set up of "Saw II" was brilliant. I never for a moment thought she was involved during the first viewing. I thought, as I'm sure was intended, that she'd either fouled up, which she says at the midway point conversing with Daniel, or that Jigsaw targeted her again to "finish the job" like Jason or Michael Myers. She nailed her objective in "Saw II." She flew completely under the radar, kept Daniel safe and alive, delivered him to Jigsaw, and then got her moment to rub Eric's face in it for being an idiot. I was stoked after "Saw II" to see where the series would take the Jigsaw and Amanda dynamic. I was pumped to see "Saw III," and the longer it went, the more apprehensive I became. The twist should have been obvious but I managed to miss it. Needless to say, when it was revealed, I was pretty pissed off. After all the brilliant legwork in showing Amanda could be calculating, cunning, and ruthless, to the point of putting on crocodile tears after each death in the nerve gas house, she turns into this twitchy psychopath with no regard for Jigsaw's code? Seriously? "Saw III" reeks of Whannell trying to end the franchise on a trilogy. Amanda was written to kill off Eric, but they deleted the scene before they released it, if left in, that loose end would have been tied. Kerry, John, and Amanda, the three most important characters remaining from the first two films are killed off. Amanda's written to be a disturbed psychopath who is shown mercy killing Adam just to make sure the audience is completely turned against her by the final reel. After calling John "A father, a leader, a teacher," in the second film, she insults and curses at him and says his methods are bullshit shortly before meeting her demise. The only thing she got out of the deal was the official female leading role in a "Saw" film. While the emotional scenes between Amanda and John definitely pack a punch, that's the work of Bell and Smith to make that happen, not the writing. After signing on for the film, they both spent time together, going places, "in character," to develop the relationship between John and Amanda that we see in the final film. Dina Meyer got a deal even more raw. She shows up in a glorified cameo only to be immediately killed off, and to once again, spark audience hatred in Amanda for killing Kerry with an unwinable trap. Even Rigg, who in "Saw II" acted as the devil on his shoulder and helping to goad Eric into the mistake that led to him being at Jigsaw's mercy, before eventually being killed by Rigg himself, basically got an entire "Saw" movie to be a protagonist. Kerry, who was the most intelligent of the three in "Saw II," got the shaft. What I don't understand is why Whannell would attempt it. He had to know there was no way the studio would stop making the films when they were pulling in as much money as they were, and it deprived us of an expansion of one of the most interesting relationships in the "Saw" franchise. John's death could have been prolonged to at least the fourth film, maybe even the fifth. If they wanted to go this route with Amanda, it should have developed over a couple of films, not, "She's cunning in this film. Oh wait, fooled you. She's actually a deranged psycho. Look! She killed Kerry AND Adam! EVIL!" By doing it, they spent the next several sequels shoehorning in Hoffman to have been an apprentice as far back as before Gordon's trap. John is seen giving him the penlight of Gordon to plant before Gordon was even in the trap. Then he's shoehorned into "Saw II" in flashbacks, which cheapens the reveal because Amanda was never the sole apprentice. Sometimes it's fun to imagine "Saw II" is the last one. Amanda makes Eric pay for his sins, Daniel lives, and the pair ride off into the sunset to continue testing unseen victims who don't appreciate life.

[@Sw3tHart99]

I only watch these for the plot twists at the end. Cover my eyes for 98% of the gore.

[@krsi2105]

Dynasty The only Saw death I cringed away from was the black dude that got his limbs twisted completely around one by one

[@TheWaggishAmerican]

Only one that got me was the scalping thing.

[@ashtonjarrett4449]

Weak

[@kikiwhite_creates]

Same

[@Sw3tHart99]

Kid Sphincter lool yeh I remember looking away at that. I hated the needle scene from the second movie, that was kinda unbearable lmao

[@tweektweak2530]

Jigsaw:wanna play a game Me:no Jigsaw:well s*it OK you can leave

[@sophiagoodman-merel7453]

So many people defending this movie in the comments. 1. This channel is a comedy channel, not legitimate reviews. 2. Why are you so mad that not everyone likes watching incredibly disgusting gore horror films? Whatever, you like it, fine. Don't get mad at others for being uncomfortable with something meant to make people uncomfortable.

[@EpicCheese765]

1) Idiots like yourself respect what the idiots who made this have to say, so as long as there's fans of this channel, it's going to be misleading for people who don't think twice about what it's saying (around 95% of it's fans) 2) You decided to watch a franchise knowing well that it'll try to disgust you, so stop complaining about it

[@lukelewis9804]

Sophie Goodman-Merel it's not that people don't like the movie it's the stupid points he makes just to make a video, half of the points in this video are complete bullshit because he doesn't know half the story

[@023Whiplash]

Noble Destiny thats the whole channel, shut up

[@lukelewis9804]

Dale no his videos used to be good and had decent criticism but now he's just going through every movie pointlessly critising them when he doesn't know the actual story behind it

[@wibbywoo6176]

He has no excuse, he watched the previous films and even acknowledged things that disprove his reasoning for some sins, at this point someone should do a sins video for CinemaSins, with just a single video they'd rack up well over 1,000 sins.

[@verynice6037]

Amanda’s beartrap test actually made her cut the key out of someone alive

[@marksaad4376]

Saw III is not sexy, Saw IV is not gore, In Saw V no one is alive

[@datguy8805]

Mark S. *deadmans party intensifies*

[@marksaad4376]

True me that

[@jasonblalock4429]

Who could ask for more?

[@marksaad4376]

Jason Blalock i would, but I’m a cocaine addict..

[@Destroyer2150]

After Saw 2, everything became a gore clown fiesta. Everybody that watched Saw 1, praised the film because of its tension and suspense. The gore was minimal for the most part, until the end, but that happened for plot reasons.

[@neddlangley5991]

Excellent Resovior Dogs reference made my insides warm

[@laxmikrishnashrestha811]

Here are some movies you could sin: Boo 2! A Madea Halloween Captain Underpants Mulan 2 My Little Pony The Movie Transformers The Last Knight Despicable me 3 Wonder Woman Spiderman Homecoming Diary of a Wimpy Kid The Long Haul

[@Sam-qb2be]

i love boo 2 lol

[@ctooog7592]

Laxmi Krishna Shrestha are you fuckin 12

[@mrmiles1674]

thats what you sound like

[@skoots6303]

Laxmi Krishna Shrestha Boo 2 was shit. The Long haul was shit. Homecoming was also shit. So are the rest of those movies are also sins themselves.

[@thebestcentaur]

You really wanna watch the world burn, eh?

[@SweenyTodd98]

4:34 Did we need to know that the woman Amanda kidnapped to treat Jigsaw is a skilled doctor/surgeon? Yes, that's kind of important information for the story.

[@coralineparmentierpianist]

"Previously in Friday the 13th" XD

[@alieninthevideo441]

I hate being early there aren't any comments to read...

[@tooltiptinkerer]

I'm growing increasingly curious as to the result of a duel between Jigsaw and MacGyver.

[@faziufaziowski4572]

Saw VIII, Jigsaw kidnaps an engineer that beats all traps. Jigsaw loses his shit and lets him go

[@faziufaziowski4572]

@10-4 Dinosaur then Saw X, the *Cross*over

[@nick37104]

"Hello MacGuyver. I want to play a game. The room is wired with a bomb. Your are shackled with this chain. If you do not saw your hand off with your Swiss Army Knife before the timer runs out, you will die. Make your choice." *MacGuyver uses the screwdriver to unscrew the chain from the wall, walks out the door* "Damn you, MacGuyver. Goddamn you."

[@creater869]

Hah well done! XD the Cuban minute joke killed me thumbs up for you

[@morphman86]

"All she had to do was cut open a dead guys stomach" *ding* Eh... YOU cut that clip, right? You had to know, during the cutting of it, that YOU cut out the part where we see he's still alive. You could've sinned the fact he didn't wake up while being sliced open, but decided to MANUFACTURE a sin by cutting that part out. Why?

[@vienalicaway2585]

this is just for gags and giggles so stop trying to point out the flaws

[@samwansitdabet6630]

All she had to do, was follow the damn train CJ !

[@georgeofhamilton]

+vien alicaway It's a big deal.

[@r1pperduck]

Because..REASONS!? *ding*

[@windwaker407]

What's the difference? She was told that he was dead, she believed that he was dead, in her reality, all she had to do was cut open the stomach of someone she thought was dead. Regardless of whether he was actually dead or not, that doesn't change the fact that her 'big test' was cutting open a someone's stomach while other people have to mutilate their bodies or put their life on the line. Just because he got one detail wrong doesn't make the sin 'manufactured'

[@IndorilTheGreat]

I got a Jigsaw Ad before this. 😂

[@alemanbates35]

A Cuban minute !! Gold man i love this damn channel!! I have watched every last one of y'alls videos love'em all !

[@maxmurillo15]

hahaha I love that little "reservoir dogs" bit at the end , Totally fit 😂

[@jonny5563]

Can’t wait for saw 8!!!!

[@CrazyPanda688]

I’m interested to see if they carry on with the story, because they all sucked ass after saw 3, or whether this is just going to be a dumb Halloween filler movie. Either way I’m going to watch it

[@pinkcloroxbleach3931]

SAAAAAMMMEEEE!!!

[@mollywatts7960]

Only cinema sins can make a horror movie funny

[@wrathguy]

What about the "Scary Movie" series?

[@Spikelee354]

I think it makes sense that this game is for Jeff since he never hurt or directly put anyone else in danger himself, but hurt others with his neglect, he would not have to go through physical pain himself but would have to pay attention to others and help them with their problem

[@engineergaming3119]

13:17 Extra Sin: Judge Halden got shot from his right,but the wound was on his left side

[@quinn500]

Amanda didn't shoot Lynn because she was jealous of her, she did it because of what was written on the note we saw her reading. Just saying.

[@CNWhatImSaiyan]

That’s a sin for another Saw

[@torymason5143]

its funny he go alot of thing wrong. we need to everything wrong with his video

[@OpossumOnTheMoon]

quinn500 personally I find it poor screen writing to carry over an important feature into a different film. Looking at this movie as a stand alone piece, it appears Amanda killed her out of jealousy. So it’s unfair to consider a sequel when looking at one film alone.

[@bi0hazard921]

quinn500 They missed a sin in the 2nd movie at the beginning of the real game, the tape said: the numbers are in the back of your mind the clue to the order can be found Over the Rainbow there are 6 colors in the rainbow. There are 8 players... Meaning Xavier didn't have to Chase Daniel in Amanda since they were the only two without numbers how do I know this? *convenience*

[@tarekkabbani482]

Been waiting for this for over a year

[@zeedopox4130]

Tbh I enjoy having my favorite series criticized it’s fun to see what other people think of it.

[@crisscrossam]

16:38 i love that song so much, and loved the pun

[@ranran3142]

Jigsaw is gonna find the CinemaSins guy and put him in a trap for giving him sins on the movie Edit:Thanks for the likes guys

[@professorchaos5058]

Swiishy and I bet cinema sin guy is going to sin it while he's still in the trap

[@ranran3142]

Smug Bun Yea but then he would have to sin it while watching it

[@TheCunningStunt]

lay off the drugs buddy.

[@sharilshahed6106]

the traps would be about watching scenes from Birdemic, Dragonball Evolution, Avatar the last Airbender and answering details on Star Wars movies based on extended canon/legends materials.

[@MJAYZ007]

Him: THIS TRAP IS LAME *starts explaining everything on why it's bad* Jigsaw: huuuuuuuuuh

[@ADAMan123]

ROGUE FRIKIN ONE

[@colinjensen8303]

Adam Ferry Could be guardians of the galaxy. He’s probably saving rogue one for closer to the last Jedi

[@courtneycox4552]

I literally watched the sixth sense for the first time on Halloween and that scene with the dude in the bathroom tore me apart and watching the edited mirror scene almost made me cry.

[@Drink4Exp]

That House reference got me, man. Really need to watch that series again...

[@aidanhsia4129]

Wait, why is this Movie Sin Counter not 2.0, or were you just drunk?

[@zachburwell3065]

Dyrix HD it hasnt been for a while

[@magdieldexter]

Dyrix HD They Revived Him

[@shikniwho7215]

because there can only be one SIn Counter, so 2.0 became the true Sin Counter.

[@mqfii8992]

Dyrix HD They managed to bring the original counter back from the dead In another EWW, but I’m not sure wich one.

[@gentblue]

No one has time for Cinemasins continuity!

[@IRDStudio]

if i had a dollar for every *IT* comment, id be able to afford a small popcorn at the movies

[@Twoswordsdrizzt]

IRD Studio You must have cheap concessions at your theatre.

[@CNWhatImSaiyan]

IRD Studio Please, if I had one for every *_EMOJI MOVIE_* comment, I’d _own_ a movie theater...!

[@Noobie2k7]

CN What i'm Saiyan? and still not be able to afford popcorn

[@CNWhatImSaiyan]

Noobie2k7 Not even Cuban popcorn...

[@stormerbuzz352]

Surely you mean a popcorn kernel, right? That shit expensive!

[@itskris9052]

4:04 I guess that means I live in a horror movie because the locker rooms at my school only lock from the outside

[@Luke_boy_77]

In the scene when the judge is shot, his left cheek is exposed to the shot, but somehow it hits him in the right cheek so there would be 109 sins at that point.

[@silversuchomimus]

Finally guardians of the galaxy vol 2 next?!

[@danielbeaver3152]

Silver Suchomimus Nope.

[@hunterzolomon5090]

Yes. That movie is full of sins

[@Gemnist98]

When Ragnarok comes out.

[@Gemnist98]

Hunter Zolomen And they’ll all be removed by “I’M MARY POPPINS Y’ALL”!

[@Klaus99999]

I really hope it’s Rogue One.

[@yourgoat_5302]

16:37 "Sweep the Leg" 😂

[@Rob_Kankerboef]

What really weird is Jeff almost needing a full 2 hours to get through the tests. All the tests are in a single building and only last for a minute or 2. When has anyone ever needed 2 hours to walk through a meatpacking plant? Even more so when you factor in that Riggs in Saw 4 had to walk from trap to trap all in different buildings and locations in 90 minutes

[@njultraflickshow3646]

How do some people root for john kramer after this movie in particular?

[@soup7917]

Idk... In general I think John Kramer is completely in the wrong but there are some occasions where I would almost go as far to say that his actions were "understandable" - for example the scene where he traps a serial rapist / murderer, while I still don't think what he did was right the guy he killed was a wicked man

[@thekyleprojekt7996]

Because people are sick in the head and Hollywood pushes movies like this and the purge to try and normalize the idea of killing each other because we deem it to be rational. Not good times ahead

[@Rougarou99]

How do people root for him after seeing any of the movies?

[@Rougarou99]

@Jacob Pleggenkuhle I mean, Jeff, Rigg, and Strahm didn't exactly their fates.

[@Rougarou99]

@Jacob Pleggenkuhle They died in the games Jigsaw set up, and Kramer wasn't exactly rushing to stop the games in the first place.

[@andrewpatterson3662]

Who else is having a Saw marathon in anticipation for Jigsaw?

[@michaelm8852]

Andrew Patterson That sounds like an amazing idea.

[@TM__1566]

Me.... tonight i will watch Saw V and tomorrow Saw VI...

[@DanielRamirez-hd7zs]

Already did

[@MrMas9]

Please keep these coming! Saw IV next? :D

[@mrrdirty6198]

I just want him to do all of the Saw movies as fast as possible.

[@NoReply813]

MrMas9 he did It

[@haleyjade768]

MrMas9 love the profile pic

[@aokproservice9324]

"... we are not the Jigsaw and Amanda you are looking for..." LMFAO!!!

[@cagataytufan9646]

I think you missed a sin where the judge is shot. he is standing with his right side to the gun but his left side is shot when he turns