Everything Wrong With Jigsaw in 20 Minutes or Less

I have no idea which movie in the Saw franchise Jigsaw is. I'm pretty sure it's not the one with Chris Rock. But it's sinful as hell!
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[@grfrjiglstan]

This movie really makes you appreciate the effort other Saw movies put in to make it seem plausible that John knows what he knows.

[@jacobstaten2366]

It would be interesting to see a reboot that consults an actual engineer and group of writers to look for inconsistency and issues.

[@GeorgeMonet]

The only way John could know what he knows is by being omniscient.

[@PigBoy99]

@@GeorgeMonetor if every single person he's tested went to his wife's rehab clinic for an alcohol problem and spilled the beans while drunk Somehow I doubt that even more

[@deliriousdrew1193]

"Except for this typo!" is one of the best sins of all time.

[@ZekeStaright]

They were SO CLOSE!

[@berg_dawg]

Makes the movie ALMOST unwatchable thanks to that damn typo... LOL

[@joshkeller2671]

You know they wrote all that out just to please this channel and still got a sin for it

[@afonsoregodeiro7878]

is he pointing at "stuck"? is it not right? english is not my first language sorry imj just very confused

[@CYMotorsport]

I will never understand how a franchise about a killer obsessed with rehabilitation fails to ever acknowledge the % of rare survivors of these “games” somehow end up involved in Jigsaw’s murdering schemes. Feels like an opportunity for meta commentary. But bc they don’t, it makes me think they don’t even see the irony. There’s only really been one over reference to this when the lady asks what she’s supposed to learn from being an amputee but jigsaw is better at producing monsters than rehabilitated people.

[@codecyt]

I think it was referenced in some deleted scenes from saw 3, where john thinks he'll only be remembered for being a monster. Amanda says something similar in the movie.

[@thefriesofLockeLamora]

I think they know but execs think audiences wouldn't like a meta commentary movie because they think it wouldn't do well profitably, maybe because of the comparisons to Scream. They want a tried and true method where the franchise sells enough by doing the same thing over and over again.

[@GeorgeMonet]

It is because of how totally impossible it is that any of this is even happening and how hard they keep trying to tie this back to John despite how totally impossible that is. The guy died like 6 weeks after being diagnosed with cancer and then trying to kill himself but according to the logic of all these movies put together he would have had to lived for 10 years after being diagnosed with cancer.

[@taragnor]

Jigsaw isn't really sane. He's a nutjob serial killer. He just rationalizes the killings to himself, painting himself as the hero of his own story.

[@codecyt]

@@Britishhick What

[@GSMnocap-memesdaily-]

Sometimes this is better then watching the movie

[@verazollinger6862]

Many times it is better

[@spinartist2397]

Very true

[@theyntlykus]

😹Yeah definitely cinema sins and that pitch meeting channel

[@Balls199]

Mhm

[@ljblakejr]

Not sometimes. Everytime!

[@ashleybrooke2087]

I always presumed that John's brain tumor gave him psychic powers like John Travolta in Phenomenon. Making the Saw series all sequels to that movie.

[@CsykKrit]

I love how the entire franchise of people enduring excruciating, incredibly traumatizing mutilations and/or death came from "My doctor wasn't very nice to me" 🤣

[@dragonmaster613]

Only this entry, the others was: "a-hole assaults my wife and she miscarried, I suck at self unaliving, now I am the Hand of God!"

[@captaincaptain2128]

Nah, it was because John Kramer got cancer, and was angry that people weren't taking their lives seriously and wasting it. He only truly learned how to appreciate life when he found out it was ending, so in his messed up mind, he thinks that by putting people in situations they might die that if they have the will to live and survive they'll appreciate life more. Has nothing to do with his doctor, especially since it's been reconned many times that the Doctor wasn't his first victim. In fact, he had many victims before the doctor.

[@Tyranastrasza]

@@dragonmaster613 Don't forget the : My insurance provider denied me treatment. But that one was legit. Those guys are evil ^^

[@StepUpMedia039]

You miss the point.

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

​@@Tyranastraszaif you think they were evil wait until X if you haven't seen it I think Hollywood is trying to normalize manslaughter after watching that movie.

[@thegoldfishpool]

Insider baseball here, the film was directed by two people with two different mandates from the studio. One was making a PG13 film the other was making a saw film. I was doing some blood rigs and I’d have one director saying “not too much blood” and the other saying “this is Saw! There can never be too much blood!”

[@drewwilson5026]

“I’m sure you’re wondering why you’re all here”… “Because despite diminishing box office returns horror sequels are still insanely popular”? That shit got me 😂😂

[@BlkbunniOrg]

Same lmao Everyone why are u going to see Saw X me: I’m a fan of the franchise

[@ericacrawford1978]

Well to be fair, the movie does show Mitch stepping over what I believe is brake fluid to hide it from the nephew, although that still doesn’t explain how John knew that since he wasn’t there 😂

[@Loch1210]

John knows everything

[@Stephanie-cl4fu]

He is a engineer. He probably checked the bike himself and saw the breaks were faulty.

[@grfrjiglstan]

@@Stephanie-cl4fu After that crash, a lot more than the brakes would be faulty. It's more likely he saw the footprint in the brake fluid later and figured it out.

[@hereforvids1514]

I disagree about the saw doll not being creepy anymore. If I saw that doll in real life I’d be creeped out everytime.

[@OratoryJamesIV]

The dumbest thing of all about that puppet is John Kramer originally made that for his unborn child. Real genius, that John.

[@MrDarkSidius]

​@@OratoryJamesIVI mean, child wouldn't be trapped in some cruel deadly contraption

[@OratoryJamesIV]

@@MrDarkSidius Not the point. You would give that doll, which looks like a reject Cabbage Patch doll from the Silent Hill Otherworld, to an infant???

[@MrDarkSidius]

@@OratoryJamesIV in first movies doll looks just like a regular vintage doll, it's later they started make it appearance more demonic. Most creepy factor comes from place and reason why this doll appears. There is real vintage dolls that was really popular, but now considered creepy, mostly because horror movies

[@Hessed3712]

Agreed

[@pato6738]

Every time Cinema sins makes one of these I go to the wiki and read the plot of all the Saw movies to understand the timeline without having to actually see the movies

[@jrb9191]

Most of them are damn good. You can skip 5 until the end

[@Darapsa]

I do the same.

[@andywiggs1]

“Also, I guess Mitch will use this valuable time to grab the break and save himself right?” He doesn’t… “Oh well”. Why am I laughing so hard at that! 😂😂😂😂

[@stephenramsey2575]

If you have a brisket cooking you have several hours to wait for a dramatic build up 😂

[@gorrow1990]

This franchise really went overboard with the number of apprentices John had and all the time jumping really emphasizes that they know they dropped the ball killing John off. Also admittedly hilarious they brought Cary Elwes back for one movie when the lawsuit was wrapped up just to never mention his character again at any point in the next 3 sequels.

[@josephhughes2429]

The biggest sin is that the main game takes places 10 years prior and the movie implies it’s johns first game so in 2004 ish John somehow got flat screen HD tvs and billy LED lights for his game but once saw 1 comes around he goes to CRT. obviously it’s the movie trying to make it like it’s in the present day but once the twist wears off it makes no sense. It’s an anachronism

[@sammco6704]

Like Cinemasins said, there's a decent movie hidden under all of the attempts to misdirect you. All of the attempts to create twists and reveals is what brings the movie down and makes the most plot holes.

[@sammco6704]

You aren't supposed to know the game took place in the past so they set it up like the present, which makes no fking sense.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Every movie past the third is a series of massive plot holes and impossibilities.

[@PigBoy99]

Honestly the best theory I've heard is that the flatscreens are from Logan's game and are just put over the barn game

[@diannadolly]

They shouldn’t have killed Jigsaw off. Big mistake

[@williamhaynes7089]

"You Flipped me off in traffic while going down Intersatte 10... I was so upset that i spilled my coffee on my $50 pants, thats why your in the death trap"

[@OscarFarinaMereles]

“Also, from the book of also” is one of your best work, Jeremy 😂👌🏻👌🏻

[@imsomewhatcertain1024]

The iconic phrase of Saw/Jigsaw movies is “game over.” However, at the end of the movie, they don’t even say it. Instead, the main villain says, “I speak for the dead.” I was bored throughout watching the movie, and that one phrase made me mad.

[@Rclarke115]

Saw V, Spiral and Saw X didn’t have the game over phrase either, sooo….

[@PDAF17]

That deserved 100 sins.

[@SpawnRevenge92]

This movie is decent stupid fun but only the first time you watch it, because you're just curious to see what convoluted mess they'll come up with to explain how Jigsaw is apparently still alive. It's the sole reason to keep watching. Once they explain it, the movie loses any rewatch value.

[@brianwadsworth1794]

You should add ...Yelling out hello in a horror movie cliche.

[@scarletcroc3821]

One part I'm really confused by is that Logan used a sniper/marksman rifle to shoot the dude with the remote, and everyone else was shooting him with pistols. Yet somehow this never came up? I am pretty sure that both entry and exit wounds from a rifle would look very different from a pistol, and additionally, what are the chances of the bullet staying inside of the body rather than just piercing him?

[@Mizzraim]

Also shot from a different angle but hey, don't think too much.. ;)

[@toxicwaste225]

0:58 hope your brisket is good

[@OratoryJamesIV]

This movie is "Saw in Name Only." Absolutely nothing in the overriding plot of the movie necessitated having a Jigsaw game happening "concurrently." It was literally there SOLELY to trick the audience and had zero relevance to the plot at all. And for the love of Christ, how did Logan: kidnap Edgar from a busy hospital, kill him (and cut a jigsaw piece out of him), haul the body to Kramer's grave site, dig that coffin up by himself, take Jigsaw's remains out, put Edgar's corpse inside, seal the coffin back up, fill all the dirt back into the burial plot, and take Kramer's remains away without ANYONE noticing? You would have to think with the public panicking like they are, that people would be visiting that grave site constantly just to see for themselves. It is beyond absurd how fast and loosely they play with time in these idiotic movies.

[@braedenalexander4929]

As a landscaper I could confidently pick that tape player up with a hard rake and tat shovel is not breaking that board, at least not anywhere near that easily. Love the content per usual 😂

[@JeffJadrich]

So glad you're getting caught up with the Saw movies 😀

[@laurenmalone8335]

Biggest sin is this movie using the “this person was working with Jigsaw” twist for 4th fucking time. And second movie in a row to do it. I realize Jigsaw was released 7 years after Saw 3D but I stand by my point that the hidden apprentice twist is so tired and needs to die. Also 3:50 got me good

[@daniellethatsit1206]

I love that y’all have picked this series back up. Does that mean we’ll see a Saw X sin video in the future 👀

[@aplive58]

I'm really looking forward to the Saw X sins. It was a good time despite the questionable pacing.

[@chelseaqualls4047]

Also if Kramer was close enough to see Carly rob and leave that woman, why didn't HE try to help?

[@Kidkinsey]

I’m glad Saw X was so great. Really bought this series back to life because mannnn most of the movies after saw 3 are so hit or miss

[@altorres9126]

DO THE TERRIFIER!!! I love your channel btw, big fan 🤙🏼

[@jrb9191]

I have no clue why he copied a trap no one knew happened or who He actually killed and how they were picked

[@Vamilator7165]

I saw this movie back in the day, and I gotta be honest I don't remember shit except the laser trap at the end

[@goldencrisp4671]

Logan’s reveal as a Jigsaw disciple is stupid

[@jazzmonclark5664]

John has pissed me off but this movie pissed me off to the highest level of pisstivity because in all of the other movies he told his accomplices to not make it personal but Mitch being in the game was super personal… he’s such a hypocrite in these damn movies

[@MrChaotic4]

Already? You're supposed to do an Exorcist movie.

[@Braind3dfart]

How did you comment 14 hrs ago?

[@votekyle3000]

@@Braind3dfart could go private before a wider release

[@MrChaotic4]

@@Braind3dfart Patreon release gets it a few hours ahead of time.

[@OversoulGaming]

​@@Braind3dfartPatreon

[@bloodrunsclear]

'We learn the one thing we will ever know about Jigsaw. He's omniscient.' - Confused Matthew

[@Cmoney534RS]

Also he swapped in a whole un spent bullet not just the fired part of it. 1000000 sins alone

[@desiguy995]

john cramer was a great visionary of our time. he could predict everything

[@diannadolly]

Jigsawdamus

[@ZekeStaright]

I remember this movie being a complete mess with the traps & game, glad to know I remembered right.

[@dreadedgamer23]

8:08 "Hey, that's Clevelandist!" Sin added. "Also, Cleveland." Sin added. Honestly, the jokes write themselves.

[@Hedron-Design]

HAHA Loved this one. yeah a lot of it was totally contingent on people surviving till the "right " trap or somehow knowing where/how to find specific things they would have no idea and that's the kind of things that pull me out of the immersion of a film.

[@WeAreNotExperts2007]

It always annoyed me how they can see literal daylight through the fence, yet don't attempt to destroy it. They could break through the wood relatively easily and escape (provided no pigs kidnap them again).

[@30thCenturyFish]

no sin off for the demogorgin like head split? That was awsome!

[@AmethystMoon444]

Lmfao the barista thing is so true. Like he was so petty over the sticker switch but didn’t realize it was petty until he already got cut up. Like it had to take you months to get the traps set up to think about it. ALSO if Logan was supposed to be an apprentice to Jigsaw but John didn’t realize until Logan didn’t wake up from his trap then when was Logan supposed to die if he had woken up? He had no tape. Did John just frantically start running around the barn taking tapes back and resetting traps?

[@zooli9]

I can imagine the rest of the people are progressing and he quickly closes their door back "NOT YET! It's not finished!"

[@AmethystMoon444]

@@zooli9 I had the thought that the “not an exit” door was supposed to be Logan’s but he just spray painted over it to keep them out 😂

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

The only thing I could think of was maybe it was one he had been on the fence for a long time about killing that person and since it was early in his killing career he had a last second change of heart when it was about to happen. But yeah it does seem to be against his personality we've seen up to this point.

[@hatsuneelissu5924]

0:11 i always thought that that was supposed to be the lionsgate intro thing not a trap.

[@TheSpear]

The worst death of a "player" who didnt deserve it was the black dude who hit the kid with his car. He didnt run, there was no malace in it. He had all of his limbs and head twisted until they broke.

[@claytonosterwald158]

Thanks for Jigsaw, and can you do Spiral next week?

[@joewilson3393]

What I don't understand is, what if one of the people in the puzzle is a genuine psychopath. Like, the key is inside the other victim and they are like "Sure, I have a biological condition that prevents me from feeling empathy, so where's the knife."

[@jeremypresutti]

Have you SEEN Saw 2?

[@Loch1210]

Amanda

[@63alkash]

That swedish girl from Saw X

[@coreyhorlacher3460]

Xavier Chavez. From Saw 2. Amanda Young. From Saw 3. Mark Hoffman. From Saw 5-3D. The list goes on, and on, and on.

[@willpoundstone71]

You missed the sin that Mitch could have swung himself before being lowered into the spinning blade thing.

[@jordanmarshall7828]

The scariest thing about the saw movies to me is that jigsaw looks like my grandfather.

[@Memelord2020]

Two weeks in a row this channel sins Saw

[@williamsummerson1204]

Some of these movies are so frustrating, thank God we have cinemasins to make them more enjoyable.

[@vvsYoni]

“We can never come from anger, or vengeance, you taught me that.” was such a good quote 🎉

[@josephhughes2429]

Yet all of johns games are from anger or vengeance and are personal vendettas

[@GeorgeMonet]

But every single one of these deathtraps comes from anger and vengeance and jealousy.

[@ashleytupper6049]

Been waiting years for this one!! LET’S GOOOOOOOO!

[@waddupjd]

So we gonna ignore the fact that Logan straight up decimated my boy Kramer's grave? What happened to his corpse

[@KittyKatReacts]

Your channel makes me think back to all these movies and go OH wow I didn’t realize that.

[@jamesmorton9664]

I know its your job to criticize but the rakes actually a really good tool in this situation. 6:25ish

[@danielpak1063]

Saw this movie for free. Overpriced

[@Respect2theFallen]

Why does this comment not have more likes 🤣😂🤣🤣 I saw this bullshit in theaters same with Spiral and I was pissed. I'm glad Saw X was good. Fool me once shame on me fool me twice shame on you fool me 3 times go fuxk yourself(3rd time was a charm so they got lucky it was a success)

[@syreenb5939]

Ok, the bucket drips is a top tier observation. How did you even catch that? Also, it makes me think of a cake

[@harrisong3386]

Pineapple Express reference 😂 I remember going high AF with my friends in 08 RIP Chris and Michael

[@TheDHCreator]

Now just Spiral and Saw X!! (Which comes out tomorrow on digital!)

[@purpletaco18]

Still waiting for you to do Scream 6!

[@DevilFan669]

And also Spiral 🌀 From the Book of Saw and also Saw X too bro and also these two other franchises and he just needs to do two of them one of them is Underworld 5 Blood Wars (2017) and also Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City (2021) Reboot too bro 😎

[@Jaemccoy]

Seriously hearing cinemasins rip this movie apart is more entertaining than watching the movie

[@Jaemccoy]

Eleanor had a jigsaw room and motive but she wasn't the fucking killer

[@akosbarati2239]

Aaaand this is why I hated this and Spiral. Both movies misunderstood several elements, how Jigsaw never took trophies, that John wasn't a better person as Zep, or that John had a plan to punish Amanda and Hoffmann. Spiral leaned into a Hoffmann-like killer as a successor.

[@leflores91]

‘Spiral’ is definitely not a masterpiece. Chris Rock was not meant for the role. The traps did not look like they were meant to be escaped. It drifted so far away from the basis of the games.

[@byrondavis9454]

John kramer has a nephew. So he has a brother or sister we never heard about. Spinoff?😂😂

[@ItsJustRyansChannel]

A murder of crows. A gaggle of geese. A sounder of swine. A gang of turkeys. A flock of camels. Is anyone else convinced that people who come up with crap are insane?

[@thehellhoundsarehere6744]

My theory: John knows Hannibal Lector, who was the psychiatrist for every victim and each one of them confessed their sins directly to him.

[@LordBakon]

About the top of the head not being in the bucket, wouldn’t the bucket have blocked the saws and stopped them from doing damadge to the head?

[@Rando1975]

I'm thinking the blade would have sliced through the bucket and the victim's head. But the bucket is completely intact, so yeah that doesn't make sense either. That bothered me when I watched it, and I thought "If the victim's head it sliced in half, why is the bucket intact?"

[@ahotdj07]

Mandela Van Peebles who plays Mitch is a cutie.

[@joewhite4564]

"Except for this typo!" Best. Sin. Ever. 😂

[@nathanielbarnes765]

Surfs up cinema sin video? I love the movie, but y’all always catch the shit i missed, thanks 🙏🏾

[@cool_guy_here]

this movie made me sick literally, i had to visit a doctor.

[@gregmercer7736]

What about the TVs were too advanced to be used during the time of the game.

[@BeansOnButter]

It's about time, imagine the sins with the characters specifically

[@andrewblanchard2398]

this guy wasn't chosen to be JOHN'S REPLACEMENT he just took over as JIGSAW

[@meginmd]

I still don't know if taking the $3.53 syringe would've saved her life--her accepting responsibility-or killed her (a life for a life).

[@jacobdrolet4262]

What will happen if Ryan did pull the lever and let the other two die in the trap room too.

[@awesomeobinradin]

5:35 easy explanation, guy had his back to that wall and was tilting his head forward

[@Tokyo.1234]

9:30 is a tongue twister

[@floeckchen666]

The saw franchise vs cinema sins, a match made in heaven...in hell...whatever its perfect

[@fatalwaffle1715]

Awesome Video Bro!

[@jalenanderson3111]

56 went crazy 😂

[@grfrjiglstan]

11:59 That’s the same three side stories from that one newspaper front page back in Saw IV. So in ten years’ time, the wedding was cancelled and uncancelled all over again, the bay spewed out major discoveries in decade-long intervals, and that damn lair still isn’t answering questions!

[@shootybloopers108]

What a coincidence I was just looking at saw

[@JoeLawrence-i2x]

This show is how I watch movies bc u do a great job eliminating the non sense kp up the great work still waiting for all about the Benjamin with ice cube and honeymooner's with Mike Epps plz sir appreciate it

[@SweatySheets]

You should watch Th3Birdman

[@youngfxx8437]

I remember YEARS ago i was hoping you’d sin all the Saw movies. Middle school me is thriving rn🙏🙏

[@wstine79]

Is Jigsaw making him watch these movies?

[@basstian]

Thank you for uploading this!

[@aplive58]

Hearing the Knights who Say Ni at the end makes me crave a Monty Python sin count!

[@DiegoHernandez-wr1ur]

You should added 1000 sins just for making another saw

[@PickenzSZN]

Cinema Sins Cinema Sin 1- He just needs a central room that connects to each room designed for each person. then as the people die he just unlocks the correct door for the people still alive.

[@WantingBread]

It is 5am here and this is a fantastic start to the day hahaha 🎉😂

[@TheTom-Saunders]

Did she not run back to the lady with the inhaler to give it to her? As she was clearly having an asthma attack...

[@gwenpicchi5719]

Uh, I'm sorry, did you just dis the spiral loyalists? MY people? I literally have fanmade trap designs (poor quality because my art sucks), and you blow your top with a random collection?! I'm impressed by her work.

[@BennyLlama39]

Jeremy: "And, no, that was not an invitation to quote chapter and verse at me." Mitch: "Get that shit outta my face." Me: What I say to Bible-humpers with too much free time somehow makes its way into this movie. *DING!* 😀

[@theweirdones7544]

Jeremy I’ve never been this early I love your vids so much❤❤

[@phen314]

12:05 No additional sin for "TicketMaster"?

[@MurderMePeacefully]

I see your 'no way to guarantee Carly would be injected with acid' and raise you 'All of them had acid'

[@theheadtapchannel4132]

they really regret killing off john in saw 3 lol