Everything Wrong With Sonic The Hedgehog 2 in 25 Minutes or Less

The first Sonic the Hedgehog movie was pretty fun. Jim Carrey is clearly having a blast in these things. Harmless, but sinful.
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[@bengilhooly3616]

The “dot dot dot” scene caught off guard so I actually found it pretty funny

[@chasehedges6775]

It was hilarious.

[@christianparrish3292]

It caught me off guard too.

[@air03man]

"Sonic the Hedgehog 2" was pretty sick & already they working on "sonic 3" featuring shadow but where's Amy rose ?

[@calebproductions1264]

It was stupid

[@christianparrish3292]

@@air03man maybe she might show.

[@aadamsaleem870]

The fact that this movie came out THIS YEAR baffles me, it feels like years ago

[@Mr_Astro-Vera]

HA, HA, HA, ONE ☝️

[@playerback7722]

Yep

[@zelatoth]

I think people just really wanted to forget it, so it seems like it came out years ago.

[@LannyLeArtist]

It does and idk why loll

[@HootieDoo79]

I didn't even know it existed

[@duckerdoo]

One thing I liked about these 2 movies is that every time Sonic took a hit, he'd lose his rings.

[@bossshun9]

Well that explains why we had to collect rings in the game. He took a lot of hits.

[@pancakesareawesome3121]

@@bossshun9 yes, before the sonic games take place, he was jojo aura punched repeatedly

[@Vfox-xn5zx]

You know I LOVE THESE MOVIES MORE THAN ANYTHING but I did not notice that and here I was catching Easter eggs from the games and I did not even notice this big one

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

And now he has no rings

[@mixymaxox]

You know what I never noticed that

[@chrismcdonald2947]

The whole wedding scene was so un-needed but it was fun as hell when Rachel just goes nuts on everyone

[@sonicfan9144]

Yeah. The way she chased Randall with the golf cart had me dying. 😂

[@robbe8625]

It was to introduce the G.U.N

[@calebproductions1264]

Rachel is a few of the cringiest characters I’ve seen in a shitty live action video game movie.

[@NinjaXavier2]

I agree guns are very import when stoping magic fast blue blurrs

[@LatinaTittyEnjoyers]

Angry black woman=funny

[@LeonardoKlotz]

Having ambition is all it takes to make a videogame adaptation work That's why most videogame adaptations in the past failed, because the studio hired people that didn't understand videogames or filmmaking That's why recent adaptations like "Detetive Pikachu", "Sonic The Hedgehog" and "Arcane" worked, because the people behind it understood the games and the media

[@malachibrown1893]

This and making an actual movie, with elements from the game

[@OversoulGaming]

Exactly. This movie in particular has Parts in it that feel like they are ripped directly from the video games and that's what people want from a video game movie. Less adaptation more direct homage. Otherwise the only thing it shares with its source material is the name.

[@Eric-bq8nd]

Not actively hating the source material, like several writers for the Witcher series, doesn't hurt either.

[@jimb.7523]

And then we have the people behind "Halo," who....do not.

[@justjoe7081]

Well…I understand fan service, but you can also see when things are treated with a certain amount of care. I don’t play games, but I love arcane. Stand alone, it’s a spectacular premise, you see characters develop, plot unfolds beautifully without it feeling forced or unnatural. I can’t compare it to the game, but I think to make game movies work, you need a solid premise/plot that ties naturally into the existing lore or rules of the game. So you pay proper fan service while still maintaining story elements that makes a good movie. Fan service is fine, but game movies don’t understand the delicate balance of homage and good plots, one gets sacrificed most times. Either the series is good but it seriously messes up the existing rules and lore of the game, or pays homage but you are left with scenes of fan service with no real plot line. So you always disappoint someone as oppose to meshing them together. My take at least.

[@abdurehmanmalik2980]

The funny thing is it wasn't even IMPLIED the Echidnas were doing evil with the Emerald; the Owls just thought they were too powerful and decided to massacre their entire race.

[@winstonchristopher3464]

I just realized that holy shiiiiit.

[@SebastianAPadilla]

Technically the owls only took the master emerald. Never massacared. The echidnas started it and then the owls had to fight back

[@PanSpaceman]

Not saying it comes out morally clean but to be fair you probably wouldn't wanna fight off some of your enemies for The Ultimate Power Thing and leave the rest to constantly be after it just so they can Ultimate Power the shit out of you once they eventually get it.

[@FhangMedia]

do you not remember the beginning of the first movie where it explains that the owls and echidnas were enemies? no? didn't think so. And if you had ever read any of the comics you would know that the only reason they created the Master Emerald in the fist place was to kill the owl's.

[@calebproductions1264]

So basically the owls were the first assholes to start the war with the echidnas.

[@OversoulGaming]

21:42 according to my therapist, fight or flight mode comes with a third option. Freeze. So it's actually fight, flight or freeze. Sometimes people go into shock and become incapable of reaction. It's a very real thing that happens. But I would be hard-pressed to believe everyone goes into freeze mode at the same time. Realistically there would be a mix of fighting, fleeing and freezing.

[@Mr_Astro-Vera]

HA, HA, HA, ONE ☝️

[@MaiAolei]

Most excellent comment!

[@davishickey1465]

In my experience, my body always goes with flight or freeze. I'm no fighter. But, honestly, people knowing that there is another stage to that can be helpful in learning how to handle yourself in traumatic situations when it comes to what to expect from your own body. Because the shock of realizing you're just sitting still instead of running or fighting can cause even more shock and distress leaving you even more debilitated.

[@SleepyKatAlt]

What about Fawn? It is when instead of running away or fighting, they instead try to appeal and make the thing attacking them like them

[@bluntslt8023]

I never believed people when they say I froze in fear until one day it happened to me. I was literally so scared that a monster was behind me that I literally froze and wouldn't move how scared I was and at that moment I realized when people say that you actually do freeze

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Sonic 2 was awesome! but seeing Jim Carrey reprise the role of Robotnik is what made the movie worth it for me, because once again Jim's performance as the character was just flawless he completely nailed the part!

[@handev2604]

I also liked “Sonic the Hedgehog 2”.

[@TimeWalker420]

nah sonic appeared to be way slower in this movie

[@sammyfreeman8494]

Fun fact: This will be his final appearance on the big screen. *sobs*

[@TheCommenterDragon]

@@sammyfreeman8494 Yeah, i once read somewhere that Jim himself even said that he enjoyed playing Robotnik so much that it feels like the perfect final role for him to play before Jim retires.

[@bingchilling7900]

Kid Cudi's song in the end credits was a banger too

[@TheWarmachine375]

Knuckles' most epic line: "Do I look like I need *your* power?"

[@motherplayer]

Only sad part is that it was better in the trailer compared to the movie.

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

@@motherplayer At least it was *in* the movie unlike "Whoop, there go my undies" from the _How to Train your Dragon_ trailer!

[@alexisvandom8037]

This movie was amazing. I can't freaking wait for the third one. Were there plot holes, like with the dance fight? Yes. Do I care? No. A movie doesn't have to be perfect to be fun.

[@handev2604]

I also liked “Sonic the Hedgehog 2”.

[@calebproductions1264]

Of course you don’t care, you never have, and believe me you never will, and that’s because you were too busy going *HUHUHUHUHUHUHU*

[@jaydenpasillas9674]

@@calebproductions1264 Dude what?

[@galaxy_kitten95]

This movie was a strong reminder for myself to why I love the franchise and it’s characters. When handled right, it’s nothing but a fun time. Filled with so much charm and personality. It made me feel like I was 7 years old and playing Sonic Heroes and watching Sonic X on Saturday mornings. Such chill times.

[@Fang1241]

@@calebproductions1264 dude you seem very butthurt

[@SHMOUSEY86]

The Mean Bean coffee shop is called that as a reference to Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine- an old sonic game that's basically a Tetris/Bejewled/etc. clone. Even if it wasn't supposed to be making that reference, it's very clear that it means mean as in "Wow, that's one mean cup of coffee!", and is clearly not indicative of how the employee will treat you. *Ding*

[@TheRockinAwesomeOne]

Same game was repackaged with Kirby as Kirby’s Avalanche, also I was specifically in the comments looking for this lol.

[@thecommonman9524]

I would like to mention that both games mentioned in this comment thread are clones of Puyo Puyo.

[@PilloTheStar]

The biggest sin is that tails got everyone excited for this movie only for knuckles to completely steal his thunder.

[@christinaw8660]

It also didn't help that Tails was unconscious for a good chunk of the movie.

[@PilloTheStar]

@@christinaw8660 only about 10 minutes-

[@FhangMedia]

@@PilloTheStar which was a good chunk of his screen time

[@PilloTheStar]

...ok true

[@ToadTWE]

It’s crazy how the first movie was the last film I saw in theaters before covid, and this one was the first one I watched after it

[@SeasonalGFilms]

Bro same

[@gamewiz720]

Bro same

[@partyjams]

Sonic is the beginning and the end

[@weirdnoise11]

Same

[@sinasspielezimmer5476]

Yeah same. I went with a friend to watch the first one and went whit him again after covid. So we started cinema trips how we ended them.

[@michaelmahabir213]

Idris Elba is the perfect voice actor for Knuckles.

[@alexmapp5444]

He has a great voice for animated movies. He voiced the police chief in Zootopia.

[@chasehedges6775]

Idris Elba is fantastic in anything he’s in. Loved him ever since Thor 1(2011).

[@RayMcElroy50]

I think Jason Momoa could've been better

[@GDSK09]

so we're just goin to ignore knuckles va from sonic x?

[@harrymillar4193]

@@GDSK09 Dan Green? He was good, but I feel like Idris was a good choice as well. It is weird to have Sonic and Knuckles with new VAs but not Tails. Maybe the others just didn’t want to do it

[@jermallkinley279]

Knuckles is one of the best parts of the movie. He's just so funny! And Idris Elba is perfect!

[@majestyqueenie]

I remember when I first saw this in theaters my theater was so damn loud. Cheered at the Knuckles introduction, Cheered at gold Sonic, and cheered at Shadow the hedgehog. Anyone else?

[@lilangelarishi]

Oh yeah, my theater was FERAL

[@flappyflap2693]

everything but knuckles (and damn bro u don't know super sonic?)

[@majestyqueenie]

@@flappyflap2693 super Sonic, yea I couldn’t remember the name I wrote this comment kind of quickly

[@fierysmile2929]

Saw this in a theater twice, and Sonic 1. Theater fucking *exploded* when Tails showed up at the end of 1. Then did the same when Knuckles showed up so early in 2. Then again when Sonic went Super.

[@OneBrokenEgg]

I almost gave myself laryngitis when Sonic went Super and *EXPLODED* when Shadow was revealed.

[@mullaoslo]

This movie actually gave me the thrills people said they had with the first movie... The first movie was just not bad and that was a suprise so we all accepted it as good.. This felt like a sonic movie.. I don't get why Hollywood insist of making these "your favorite video game characters in the real world movies.." just go out like this and the Mario movie.. That's all we ever wanted

[@motherplayer]

It's sadly called "Testing the waters.", Risk adverse way to see if an idea has legs and then if it does well, they will put more in the sequel. Feel the same way. This was the Sonic film I wanted to see with the first one, but again, "testing the waters" and such makes for inoffensive, but not remarkable.

[@mullaoslo]

@@motherplayer true.. And even though they cut down on the real world stuff they still had the wedding to... Legitimize the movie I guess with a human storyline .. Can't just be an adventure with alien furrys and Jim carey.. This one really was at it best when it just went with the sonic lore.. Which luckily was most of the movie

[@mingfanzhang4600]

I invite everyone to read the holy Quran

[@ShaimingLong]

It also probably helped that the bar for expected quality had been beaten down quite low at the time of the first movie, so something safe and solid was fantastic to the majority of the fanbase. I was actually surprised at how much they went away from Tom and Maddie in the second movie, I was fearing it would be still played more safe with more tired tropes than not.

[@miciso666]

third times the charm right... when we get shadow. first we had just sonic. now it was sonic and knuckles. it HAS to be all around shadow the edgiest hedgehog alive. can only imagine what happens further on if they wanna keep going. silver. emerl. chaos.

[@MetricRetr0]

17:50 "Asshowls" caught me off guard 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@przemyslaw_teo_kocyba]

22:03 I've just started my journey with VFX and I am crying. To everyone in the CinemaSins crew - thank you for making my life better. You've been doing that for years by making me laugh uncontrollably. Wishing you all the best!

[@silverhawk24]

I feel like a few of these scenes could have easily just been solved if Sonic just ran.

[@EBTS-3]

Right ? They should give sonic an injury or reason for limiting his Main trait

[@GuyWithNoNickName]

@@EBTS-3 For some it was, excluding the bar dance scene, most of the time Sonic didn’t run was because he was either getting tired, or was injured in some way. Keep in mind, by the end of the final battle, he’s been running, fighting, getting punched across rooms, and almost drowning a few times, all within just a few days without much time for a break. Sonic can run fast, but it doesn’t mean he can’t get tired.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

Sonic could have reasons why he didn't run we just have to think them up. Lol

[@calebproductions1264]

It’s shitty and lazy writing, this is why you get Japanese writers to make your movies and not these incompetent lazy hacks from America to make these video game movies.

[@Moleoflands]

The issue with speed characters is how are you going to make them not run?

[@Cold-Blooded-Jay]

I adored this movie and I've never played a Sonic game in my life. Yeah it's flawed, but hell, every movie is. I am HYPED for the 3rd movie.

[@amybenns6619]

Might I remind you about Megamind

[@LannyLeArtist]

Same, but ive played a little bit of sonic frontiers so far

[@juancl7658]

Now that it's coming out around late 2024, you should play Sonic games like Sonic Adventure 2 or Shadow the Hedgehog since Shadow was in the credits of the second movie. Playing Sonic games should pass the time

[@toshtao1]

@@juancl7658 .

[@LucianDevine]

It's hard for me to get hyped about it because Jim Carey retired...

[@d00mbr07]

Bro you handled that dance battle pretty well haha, I couldn't stop *sighing* for a good 10 minutes

[@sonicfanboy3375]

how did you comment this 7 hours ago when this video is uploaded 20 minutes ago???

[@waterninten]

@@sonicfanboy3375 Patreon, i think

[@calebproductions1264]

And I couldn’t stop cringing for the entire movie, a waste of my time it was back in theaters, I’m just glad I wasn’t in the same room with a bunch of dumb 30 year old sonic fans creaming themselves every 5 minutes.

[@nanigarm]

Meh, its a movie for kids, with some call backs for any old fans. I'm sure we had stuff we'd see as cringe nowadays that we loved as kids.

[@silverhawk24]

@@calebproductions1264 lmfao! I enjoyed this movie alot, but the dance battle should have been taken out

[@AlphaHorizon894]

I was baffled in theaters when the Master emerald was just magically put back together by knuckles, after we literally saw the chaos emeralds fly off

[@broodstar1337]

There's existing precedent in the Sonic franchise that Knuckles can instantly restore a broken Master Emerald in mere moments without the aid of the Chaos Emeralds. Sonic Adventure 2 comes to mind.

[@GBlastMan]

The Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald are 2 separated things, the Master Emerald just acts like a controller that unifies the Chaos Emeralds and prevents them to go wild. Knuckles as the guardian of the Master Emerald has the ability to restore it or even break it, only Knuckles can do these feats since apparently they come with the job of being the guardian of the emerald.

[@calebproductions1264]

It’s lazy writing by in incompetent morons that can’t make a good script, what did you expect?

[@calebproductions1264]

@Mystic uh, no I'm not wrong, it must be sad that these garbage movies are made because you shills are into lazy writing and terrible action sequences, it doesn't help that this has to be Sonic of all things

[@calebproductions1264]

@Mystic lmao ok kid, well we had the Sonic OVA and that was 10X better than whatever crap we get from these live action soulless movies.

[@TobyNo1Awesomeness]

21:18 A deleted scene of the movie shows Wade radio the location of Robotniks hideout to Tom, who tells him not to go in there, but Wade only hears go in there due to the distance between Green Hills and Hawaii. They then untie the General and tell him the location before he calls in the chopper to take Tom and Maddie with him

[@chasehedges6775]

The Sonic The Hedgehog movies are some of the best video game movies ever made and I’m happy they exist.

[@VictorB-jn4yo]

Talk about having low standards

[@IamaPERSON]

Tbf, considering most game movies suck, that’s not a high bar to pass. Speaking of, what game series do you think should be a movie? I vote Soulcalibur.

[@renata6896]

@@IamaPERSON Y'know what... that would be awesome if they did it justice. It would be better as a series though to better flesh out everything. There's a lot to work with.

[@IamaPERSON]

@@renata6896 agreed, so I’m thinking they adapt the first game, Soul Blade, before the others. And I just realized that they don’t have to worry about “inclusiveness,” either.

[@trinaq]

Seconded, they're overally silly at times, but they bring nostalgia for fans of the original video games.

[@jodinsan]

Not gonna lie, a _Phantasy Star_ movie adaptation would be fantastic, and I am impressed that the series was even mentioned.

[@katharineball585]

You mean, PHANTASTIC

[@autumbreeze1129]

True, Eggman couldn't make a tasty mushroom coffee, but, remember, those he made were 100% made of mushroom, whereas the one Stone made was a normal latte. All Eggman was thinking was adding mushroom would improve the taste. It's quite possible his idea would work so long as the mushroom coffee is actually mushroom coffee and not just 100% mushroom

[@bossshun9]

And just like that, Shadow the Hedgehog is ready to appear and kick ass for the third movie. So, Jim Carrey's back is still holding on for dear life.

[@al-ameenadewunmi]

15:32 Yeah, I have to agree here. I was questioning that myself when watching the movie. It was such a simple thing to do.

[@motherplayer]

Same. I surprisingly stick up for this film for the most part, but even for the type of film this is, that was too stupid and time wasting for something even the kids in the audience caught up to,

[@mingfanzhang4600]

I invite everyone to read the holy Quran

[@cloudshines812]

I’ll argue that even if Tom showed the ring, they could still disbelieve him since they’re LITERALLY identical

[@jay_song_]

I surprisingly enjoyed the Sonic movies. Maybe it's nostalgia because I grew up with Sonic X. Maybe it's just because I love Knuckles. But my little brother loves the Sonic movies so I've watched them a lot and we play Sonic where he pretends to run super fast and I have to grab him and quote Idirs Elba the entire time.

[@danyaelle1753]

I grew up with sonic x as well. The theme will never leave my head

[@epicninjagameryt6884]

@@danyaelle1753 MOVING AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

[@andreasmeelie1889]

CUTE! :)

[@davishickey1465]

I love the way you "raise your voice" in these videos. It's like a kid trying to yell on Xbox Live but trying to keep quiet so his parents don't hear him. It's like quiet yelling and it's adorable.

[@cloudshines812]

Its cringe

[@ClanImprobable]

Agreed, Jeremy just makes these _sing!_

[@SebastianAPadilla]

This comment is underrated

[@calebproductions1264]

Ikr his older videos were too short and quiet, I’m glad he’s made a change of pace with his channel.

[@rhapsody2612]

for 7:16, its literally called "Mean Bean" because the cafe references a sonic spinoff, known as Dr Robotniks Mean Bean Machine

[@gtaguy8791]

16:44 YOU LITERALLY PLAYED THE SCENE WHERE SHE SAID THAT SONIC AND HIS FRIEND DROPPED IT!

[@benjaminwebster4482]

23:56 The master emerald pretty much created the smaller 7 chaos emeralds and as long as the Guardian is alive both will continue to exist

[@GuyWithNoNickName]

As for Sonic not using his speed in certain situations where he could have, depending on the situation, he likely can’t. Excluding the bar dance scene, most of the time Sonic didn’t run was when he was injured in some way, or getting tired. Keep in mind, by the end of the final battle, he’s been running, fighting, getting punched across rooms, and almost drowning a few times, all within just a few days without much time for a break. Many times, he was punched by Knuckles and couldn’t run, like when he didn’t run when Sonic and Tails were in the cop car being chased by Knuckles, or when he sat there at Knuckles’ feet while Robotnik was stealing the Master Emerald. Basically whenever Sonic closes his eyes and grunts, that’s indicating that he’s hurt. I suppose they could’ve portrayed it better to make that more clear, but I believe that was the intention, Sonic was hurt. Maybe he can still move, but not go his fastest. Sonic can run fast, but it doesn’t mean he’s invincible or can’t get tired after long periods without rest. The bar scene has a bit less of an excuse tho.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

Actually while I do love and agree with your explanation there I have to disagree with the bar scene not being an excuse. Here's the thing Sonic is human. Things can happen fast before him before he could literally think about using his running feet to take action. One complaint that always constantly bugged me that people always complained about with the first movie was how Sonic didn't use his speed at all to getaway from Tom when Tom first fired that dart at him and they wind up having that adventure together. No one really thinks about how Sonic was reacting when he first encountered Tom. He thought that he was alone and Tom completely caught him off guard and he was freaked out and screamed alongside Tom because he had gotten caught. He didn't even get the chance to think about running because Tom had shot him before he could. That's what happened with Sonic at the bar scene. The map got taken and before Sonic could even think about running it kept getting taken by people that even he knew that the map was no longer in reach and the only way that he could get it back was through the dance fight. Sonic can even be awfully scared at times that he may not be able to think straight which was why he didn't use his powers to get out of the hands of the people throwing him in that fire as well. Also a lot of people were holding onto him so it may make it hard for him to fully well concentrate and use his powers at all especially since he is so scared but still fear or not it's hard to do anything when being held upwards by a whole bunch of people or in the arms of a whole bunch of people. It makes a whole lot of sense, don't you think?

[@slasher3336]

@@andreasmeelie1889 Considering how long the bar scene played out and the fact that he thought to connect his phone to the speaker, I'm sure he had enough time to think about using his speed to just rush up, grab the map, and run, but something many people don't know and is never mentioned is that one of Sonic's hobbies is _breakdancing._ Being the cocky hedgehog he is, he was more than likely confident enough in his breakdancing skills to decide he didn't need to and opted to show them off instead.

[@sofiabandita9932]

He probably wanted a peaceful solution.

[@sinfulhappiness]

CinemaSins trying to logic the illogical is always a good time. 🤣 Once I watched Sonic through the eyes of my inner 5th grader, they were both fun enjoyable movies. I some times forget that movies like this are not meant for a 30 year old to be a critic of. I just had fun watching Jim Carrey having fun and was not disappointed.

[@Arbron]

The thing is while kids can definitely watch these movies the obvious audience is those 30+ year olds you mention who grew up with Sonic. I mean, that stinger with Shadow the Hedgehog at the end, kids only loosely familiar with Sonic would have mostly been like "oh, cool." Us old timers who remember Sonic Adventure 2? We cheered.

[@xzpur3zx]

A character, for once, actually needs to go to the school of running away from things.

[@TheCrispyPimp83]

18:29 can I get a “W” in the comments for all of y’all who get the Megamind reference

[@simonediliberto4314]

The black mamba

[@TheCrispyPimp83]

@@simonediliberto4314 MY MAN

[@speed_311]

I've been waiting a long time for this. It's about time he covered one of my favorite movies of all time.

[@simonediliberto4314]

Really? Of all time? That’s a bit much don’t you think?( or you just just need to watch more movies)

[@epicninjagameryt6884]

@@simonediliberto4314 or its just his opinion🤔

[@simonediliberto4314]

@@epicninjagameryt6884 I know it just seems way exaggerated

[@epicninjagameryt6884]

@@simonediliberto4314 why can't he have this movie as his favorite???? Just cuz u don't think it's great? Congrats! You've discovered what an OPINION is!👏👏👏

[@simonediliberto4314]

@@epicninjagameryt6884 I do think it’s good just nowhere near my favorite of all time I’m not against his opinion lol

[@christscrackers647]

This movie was even better than the first one. It even grossed almost twice as much as the first movie in the box office due to how authentic it felt! As a Sonic Fan, this is the best video game movie i've ever seen and one of my favorites from this year in Cinema. 4:00 Also Jeremy weirdly sounds like a dying chicken here.

[@HDLLHANZ]

22:30 Honestly don't remember much from the movie. But Eggman Unified and turned the Chaos Energy from the Master Emerald into power. Chaos Energy has two forms, Negative and Positive. One of each is formed when either Negative or Positive Emotion is emitted from the user. Eggman had conjured up a lot of Negative Emotions and that made him be able to absorb and use the Master Emerald. Sonic was stressed and didn't know what to do, so he wasn't able to fuse himself with the Emeralds until he cleared his mind of doubts and allowed Positive Emotions to be created, thus allowing Sonic to unite with the Emeralds. "Chaos is power, enriched by the heart, the controller is the one who unifies the chaos."

[@Arbron]

I did like the subtle references to Tikal's words, even if they changed the lore. The only other time I know of where the seven chaos emeralds actually *created* the Master Emerald is in the Archie comics, but that was back when they were based on the games and AoStH and SatAM rather than the games.

[@derpdude32]

I love this movie so much more than the first one, just because of all the humor and badassery Knuckles and Robotnik bring to it

[@Chemion_Asen458]

13:32 because there's only 7 chaos emeralds.

[@Just_A_Red_Guy]

Yeah. But what about the super emeralds? I know it's not canon but what if?

[@Chemion_Asen458]

You need the 7 chaos emeralds + Master Emerald to make the super emeralds@@Just_A_Red_Guy

[@TheAmazingMisterZ]

23:10 I'm surprised you even know who Ray the Flying Squirrel IS

[@linkthehero8431]

A lot of these sins wouldn't have been in this video had Jeremy's knowledge of the games not been so hit-or-miss. I yelled _seriously, play the damn games_ about five times throughout this video.

[@waitselljones8068]

They don't read the source material. But there WERE quite a few sins here that weren't actually sins at all and easily explainable. Green Hills is fairly aware of who Sonic is because of the first movie. In fact some of the rest of the world probably know him as well as a not great super hero So no he doesn't live a secret life in his home town. Sonic can't pretend to be sick in bed because he's living his double life. Sonic isn't necessarily afraid of water, he just can't swim, so him becoming a motorboat isn't a problem because he has the boat to hold on to. Tails isn't afraid of falling off a cliff, he's worried for Sonic Sonic actually mentions in the movie that he probably shouldn't be trusting Tails but Tails is the one that rescued him Also alien animals watching each other in the bath isn't weird to Tails because he's an alien animal. And lastly, the reason why the humans trust Tails is because Sonic was concerned about him after they went through the portal.

[@simonediliberto4314]

But he knew about Shadow somehow

[@waitselljones8068]

​@@simonediliberto4314 That and he made a Ray the Flying Squirrel reference so he definitely KNOWS the series. I just went back and looked up the scene with Sonic and Tails going through the portal and Sonic's line is literally "Tails, Tails can you hear me? Okay okay, let me think let me think. Tails come on buddy." So the sin about the humans automatically trusting Tails is absurd. Sonic calls him his friend in front of everyone.

[@marquis911]

2:48 "And that's how Sonic killed the TMNT." That means he killed his family and himself.

[@Bodyswap_16]

Seriously I said it 1st how do you have more likes how unfair is that

[@simonediliberto4314]

@@Bodyswap_16 bro is just 10 likes they’re nothing

[@dr92hmc99X]

That explains why IDW won’t make a Sonic x TMNT crossover comic.

[@FroggyNight]

“Oh, they are stairs.” Lmao

[@jamesshadeslayer3395]

the part where rachel comes in on the golf part was actually kinda funny then she gets off of it while it's still going & crashes blowing up

[@jessehcreative]

That slow walk and drink is excellent

[@linkthehero8431]

12:27 happens all the time in the games. Including two player mode in Sonic 2 (the game). It literally dates back to Tails's debut. That sin shouldn't have been there. Yeah, I'm sinning CinemaSins.

[@gamewiz720]

Join the club. We have jackets. 🧥 (Shrek 2 reference)

[@linkthehero8431]

@@gamewiz720 Thanks. With how hit or miss Jeremy's knowledge of the games is, I'm surprised he knew Shadow the Hedgehog. He also didn't understand that what the Chaos Emeralds did with Sonic in the movie is how they work in the games. At least half the 3D Sonic games end with a Super Sonic based final boss where you have to collect all the emeralds to beat the game; Generations with the Time Eater for example.

[@amybenns6619]

You legend

[@FrostTheHobidon]

Calling the Death Egg Robot from Sonic 2 the video a IronMan suit….What? 😂

[@heroessquad2019]

22:54 And that's why you need to play the games for understanding.

[@DefgirRZawa]

This is why he is sinning this - Imagine being a parent who never played the games with your kid.

[@cameramike2515]

I saw this a week after it came out and immediately loved it even more than the first one. More ambitious and fun than the first while still staying grounded and adding more Sonic lore characters. Idris Elba was absolutely perfect for the voice of Knuckles and Jim Carrey once again was a blast to watch as Eggman. These films are amazing at respecting the video game franchise and enjoyable and fun for even non Sonic fans. I’m so excited to see Shadow in Sonic 3!

[@estebangutierrez160]

It's nice that they got Shemar Moore from Criminal Minds in this movie.

[@AspenFrostt]

"tiny magic hedgehog destroyed" is my favorite gag in the whole movie ima be honest

[@epicninjagameryt6884]

"dot...dot...dot....dot..dot..dot...dot"

[@copperfox3494]

7:16 Like a lot of other things in this movie, the Mean Bean coffee shop is a reference to previous Sonic the Hedgehog media, in this case a video game of the same name, The Mean Bean Machine.

[@Midnight-8262]

21:56 Is no one gonna talk about how the guns on Tails’ plane are literally shooting directly through the propellers?

[@maximaldinotrap]

Interrupter gear, why do you think WWI pilots were able to shoot?

[@shoken4421]

This movie was funny and full of Action,Jim Carrey was absolutely awesome here

[@OpaqueEmber]

I don’t care what anyone says, I friggin enjoyed this movie to the max, I laughed, I loved it. Yeah it was kinda silly at times I admit, but totally fun to watch ❤

[@geardog24]

*"I'm upgraded Sinister 3.0. My game is next level."* Still waiting for the real Eggman to get his upgrade.

[@cashordeals3672]

Love when the movie dropped and shadow was revealed at the end you go to sonic adventure songs you see man i hope they have escape from the city or live in learn in the next movie which i don't blame 🤣 low key hope they have sonic unleashed music in there i know it makes no sense but unleashed has bangers too

[@comrade_gamer9263]

0:27 the sega sound is literally vocalized, you may wanna get your ears checked

[@firdanharbima6997]

He's to bias to actually know what sound on intro of the movie is because he kinda despise them

[@Jimmy-cg9db]

He didn't play the sound to show and I watched the movie and indeed it does say sega. Jeremy is death sometimes.

[@Phoenix2312]

14:17 Jeremey has NEVER played an RPG Before... That's the sin! If he had he would know that we as Humans are VERY CURIOUS CREATURES and we would 100% do anything we could to seek out random caves that seem out of place which that one does and would indeed spend Hours or even YEARS spinning stone dials to open the damn combination as we do it all the time in EVERY SOPDDING GAME WE PLAY! Does Jeremey actually THINK that someone STUMBLED upon "Peaches Secret" in Mario RPG??? NO! They were not allowed to enter that room and that made them curious so they BROKE THE F**KING GAME!

[@user-ux8is9ey9u]

Chill😂

[@ajdude9]

It's weird how - out of all the characters in the movie - only Tails has his video game VA voicing him.

[@AadamSaleem390]

A better disguise than "skin condition" is to say he's a furry.

[@Yellowdigigod]

18:00 Even the Ocean lost NNN

[@TodayInGoodMusic]

11:08 Stone calls Knuckles the imbecile because he wants Robotnik’s admiration over Knuckles. It’s a way to put Knuckles down.

[@dakotamoose3855]

I’ve thought so many times “PLAY THE VIDEO GAMES!!” while watching this 😂😂😂

[@10RexTheWolf01]

12:20 Well they did just get through clarifying that Tails has been watching him sooo.....yes.

[@ninjabunnywholivesinsideaw8216]

I was legitimately shocked when this movie didn't take the opportunity to make a Magneto joke about the power Robotnik ends up with, especially since James Marsden (Cyclops) plays Tom in this movie. Like, Tom couldn't have said something like, "Wow, dejavu," when Robotnik started telepathically controlling metal?

[@captainj6298]

As unpleasant as it can be, I do find it somewhat fascinating how kid’s movies often (though not always) have remarkably outdated references that even some of the parents might miss. It provides a unique kind of time capsule as you go back through the years of kid’s movies, almost always referencing about 5-7 years earlier.

[@jeriahweaver5215]

You know time is going too fast when THIS MASTERPEICE OF A MOVIE is a year old

[@omarreyes7626]

15:52 that was not the government's plan they were not looking for sonic they were keeping tabs on him, and would act if sonic cause another global problem which he did.

[@Not_Kaitlyn]

I remember watching this in theaters the day it came out (it was for my little brother bc he's a huge Sonic fan) and it felt so cool being around other people who also wanted to see this movie!

[@harrymillar4193]

I’m 25 and watched it on my own because IDGAF about other people’s opinions of me

[@simonediliberto4314]

@@harrymillar4193 and that’s fine

[@Bear_Berry02]

You forgot on the beginning of the movie. "Sonic is running in the water trying to get Tom to shore, but is afraid to run in the water in the near end of the movie" 💀

[@UnionThorax]

4:22 the reason why it doesn’t work is because the user has to know (or just say the place) where to go But that’s my opinion

[@luminaire555]

I'm sure you know that some of the locales was based on the game. Labyrinth zone was the "Indiana Jones" area. Using a lot of nostalgia brought people like me to the movie. But you already knew that

[@simonediliberto4314]

Also the “Giant Ironman” was the sonic 2 death egg robot

[@cloudshines812]

This is why Cinemasins should never review Video Game movies… because they never bother doing the research. How does he not know what the Chaos Emeralds or the Death Egg Robot is… but knows who Ray the flying Squirrel and Super Sonic is?

[@bluberrydee6205]

@@cloudshines812 cuz ray the flying squirrel is the best one obv

[@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115]

"... And that is how Sonic killed the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!" 😂🤣

[@Erika-us2ws]

Idk why but the fact that Ben schwartz plays Leonardo in the 2018 Rise of the TMNT series made that even funnier to me

[@What.99]

I was never a massive fan of Tails in the games, but I completely loved that li’l guy in this movie. I can’t wait to see the hijinks Sonic and he (and Knuckles) get into in the next movie, although I am very disappointed that Jim Carrey won’t be coming back as Dr. Robotnik. That could massively hurt it and the future sequels, so hopefully they find a suitable replacement for Jim Carrey/Dr. Robotnik… if that even exists.

[@yinriader]

The best dungeon trap for the room at 19:49 are zombie birds that attack anyone who dares to fly and a burning beam that attacks anyone who dares to attack zombies, including the attempt to fly at jet speed past them... also also (same way said by Epic voice guy) .. They should have obstacles like blocks that appear in the sky powered by the gem to injure or obstruct fast flying creatures. Fun fact Tails can fly over the same place with sheer force of will alone while holding sonic XD

[@Creativestname]

At the end when shadow opens his eyes its very lucky that it happened the exact time that people found his coordinates

[@TheGriever255]

"That wasn't part of the deal Blackheart - that wasn't PAAAAAAART!!!!" ahahaha your audio outtakes are always brilliant, guys.

[@BatLB]

Whats funny to me is that CinemaSins clearly knows the Sonic Universe quite well. The "I dont know whats going on!" part with the Master Emerald, as far as I understand, is that the Master Emerald, pretty early in the Sonic Story, gets destroyed and shattered into the Chaos Emeralds, which all combined form the Master Emerald. However, in Sonic Adventures it looked like the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald are two different things, same for some of the games, so yeah, I have no clue whats going on either.

[@jessehcreative]

As far ad not knowing things, it’s intentional to get engagement / comments. As far as the chaos and master emeralds being separate, they’re transitioning to Adventure from Classic in the next film.

[@geardog24]

Knuckles: Do I look like I need your sins?

[@corbinpyles]

There's 2 things you've missed to mention like 1: How did the bombs activate on their own when Sonic said "Nobody's gonna get hurt." And 2: What happened to Ozzy during the whole situation of Eggman and Knuckles breaking into Tom's house?

[@im_.a-bear5996]

Im still wondering what happened with ozzy the whole time too-

[@corbinpyles]

To be honest I can imagine a scene of Ozzy barking at Eggman just breaking into the house.

[@dancinindadark]

It makes me so happy to see Valkyria Chronicles represented in that SEGA intro. It was such a good game that I feel like everyone forgot about.

[@jeager1999]

(17:12) True....But that was funny.

[@marlonmoore3969]

12:47 I died 😂😂😂 off that

[@spongebobfan78]

3:04 I mean, in the first movie, the townspeople literally came to where Sonic and Robotnik's final battle is happening. They already know Sonic, especially when he got powered-up by strong emotions.

[@JuICyBLiinGeR]

“Soniiiiic SKIP!” *fast forwards to credits* Lovely touch, Jeremy.

[@rickstaism]

Yep that was awesome.

[@33pandagamer]

The moment that lady said, 50 years ago, I knew exactly what she was talking about, and I got so hyped! Shadow is my favorite character and I cant wait for the third movie.

[@BenSchubert1995]

22:53 That's because he didn't play Sonic Adventure. Tikal explains everything there.

[@hitomiartist]

21:17 funny thing is, it was explained how they knew where his lap is in a DELETED SCENE, why was that DELETED?

[@carson00000]

I went on a school field trip to a cinema to watch this movie. I spent over half the movie playing subway surfers and got a high score

[@alceratops6853]

Jeremy: 22:13 Me: Because Eggman is coming, that's why!

[@alaskathewolf8256]

I about died of excitement when I saw Shadow in the end credit scene

[@thevirginmarty9738]

At 7:11, the name Mean Bean is a reference to an old Sonic spinoff game called Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.

[@rinyaskyline]

Having not seen this movie, I cannot believe that the coffee shop is named the Mean Bean, after the Mean Bean Machine by yours truly Dr Robotnik.

[@emilybriand9453]

"And that's how sonic killed the teenage mutant Ninja turtles" My favorite line of this

[@randomistough0]

4:32 see this dog here? he's gone for the entire movie in the same house (which gets destroyed btw) with no food, water, or anyone to keep an eye on 'em.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Paramount should let TIM MILLER direct the next movie Or the next live-action TMNT reboot He understands CGI like none other