Everything Wrong With Starship Troopers in 19 Minutes or Less

Starship Troopers is almost certainly satire, though some still insist it is not. Your opinion in this matter will impact your enjoyment of the film. Would you like to know more?
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[@mrsfreedom7610]

Nothing. Nothing is wrong with this movie. This is cinematic perfection.

[@stevenbridgewater7593]

I love this movie, it’s cheesy yes, but it’s so good.

[@ttabood7462]

you're either joking or clueless

[@mrsfreedom7610]

@TTabood Have you considered not being argumentative and judgemental? Side effects may include Shutting the fuck up. Ask your doctor if this may be right for you.

[@ttabood7462]

@@mrsfreedom7610 lol

[@bryanschmidt7336]

You beat me to it

[@JamesMerlaut]

Fun fact about the shower scene; The cast only agreed to do it if... and only if... Paul Verhoeven, the director, was also nude as they filmed... and since the scene exists...

[@thedoneeye]

"Paul Verhoeven, the director, was also nude as they filmed" I'm soooo glad I read *after* I ate.....

[@animechic420]

You gotta be fucking kidding me! 😂😂😂

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@thedoneeye Ahh yes... the sight of a naked, wrinly old man with a pot belly sure would whet the appetite; you're glad you at beforehand because you're full right?

[@MagusKain]

So either he was naked or that's a lie. :)

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@MagusKain He was naked 😂😂

[@AnGrYGrEeKGuY]

11:25 actually no, the "Death from above" is a common motto used in paratroopers or any trooper that comes in from the sky down on the ground (in their case they use spacecrafts to get to the ground from space).

[@SolidAvenger1290]

That is right. The ODSTs & the motto from Halo were inspired by the Starship Troopers novel.

[@lurac5710]

The director actively says it doesn't fit with the movie- they used to HALO drop from orbit in the book.

[@nunyabisness1979]

in fact the origin of the phrase actually has some religious connotation believe it or not.

[@racismwillsaveusall]

Considering in the book they drop from low orbit, or HALO drop, and in the movie they just fly to the surface...that tat absolutely doesnt belong in the movie.

[@letendreelliott8778]

@@SolidAvenger1290it’s the motto of the 82nd Airborne Division. A US army paratrooper division. It didn’t come from Starship Troopers at all.

[@wieldylattice3015]

You forgot to sin the fact that when the commanding officer loses his legs (totally survivable as long as they can stop the bleeding and get timely medical attention) they have to mercy kill him because they think he’s gonna die, but when Johnny’s gf gets her chest turned into a chopped mango and probably has already had multiple organ failures, they still try to rescue her. That’s worth at least 5 sins for not having basic medical knowledge

[@trilexfix]

Not really dude trooper would have to carry his body while slowing down the team and lowering everyones chance of survival, it's pretty much Game Over for him and he wants his team to survive also it's 2 legs no one so the amount of blood loss would be massive.

[@wieldylattice3015]

@@trilexfix Fair but I still think it was kinda stupid for them to try to rescue her, but good point, I hadn't thought about it from a logistical perspective.

[@keck4022]

I think the difference is that he specifically asked his roughnecks to kill him if he is badly injured (he probably doesn’t want to spend his life in a wheelchair) while she didn’t. So they probably had to do anything they could to save her. Just like in a hospital

[@daniellanning115]

@@keck4022 There was a possibility for her to survive had they NOT REMOVED the bug's severed leg. Once it was removed the blood loss increased to the point of 💯 percent death!!🤦🤦

[@galesonic]

@@daniellanning115 She was stabbed 4 times, twice in the chest. The leg being removed was the least to worry about

[@natedowns5]

The cgi in this movie actually aged really well imo

[@skyslasher2297]

Probably because it mixed in practical effects

[@MegaZeta]

LMAO

[@Diceyst]

Well they didn't spend anything on story, The director asked someone for a TLDR of the book and a made a movie about it. In the Book they dropped in Powered Exosuits like a mix of the ODST's from Halo and Iron man.

[@yagrumbagarn6628]

@@Diceyst Traitor of Mars anime for those that would like reference to these suits. They are quite good suites.

[@slevinchannel7589]

These Nude-Scenes show that even back then, the Actors were deranged enough to do such Shameless, unneeded Scenes, just like nowadays. But no, nowadays people are just much more desensitized and more stupid. I mean, its just common practice to have them for NO Reason, even if they feel incredible displaced. Oh, i have seen some in situations where it was so displaced it was like Batman running through the Background in a Horror-Movie about Zombeavers.

[@BarkingCur]

"Death from Above" is an airborne infantry slogan. It also makes more sense in the book where the troopers wore power armor and were dropped into the battlefield from low orbit.

[@jonathanmensch9698]

It's a shame the director ruined absolutely any chance of a redeeming reboot of Starship Troopers to be made where they actually do the Mobile Infantry stuff they do in the book.

[@lgmmrm]

@@jonathanmensch9698 Eh, the two animated movies actually feel like what the book would look like.

[@Tekisasubakani]

@@lgmmrm Do they include the Skinnies?

[@sdfkjgh]

@@Tekisasubakani: I miss the CG animated series. Yes, that incarnation included the Skinnies. Only tangentially related: One summer, it was brutally hot where I live (near the corner of Van Nuys & Roscoe in Southern CA), and I was flipping through the channels to find the day's episode of SST. The day before, we'd hit not just triple digit weather, but broke 120, so you can imagine that rain would be much appreciated. I happened to land on al roker (post-defattening) saying "Well, looks like we dodged a bullet there!", referring to a 15% chance of rain, predicted the day before, evaporating quicker than the rain itself would in 120+ degrees F weather. It was 7 or 8 or 9 in the morning, and already the temperature was just over 90. Fuck al roker!

[@mundanestuff]

My high hopes for seeing power armor were dashed, and the best they could do is refer to the recruits as apes. If someone could please do a scene for scene adaptation of the book, I would be grateful.

[@Psykolord1989]

16:47 Ah, the reason for that is the small factor of "They actually had her body, because she made it back wounded and died on the ship, whereas the bodies of the rest who died were left where they fell."

[@brianfilholm4755]

Didn't know they made a Helldiver's 2 movie. Crazy

[@johnnyrico7744]

I love most of these movies even the animated ones. Also Dizzy got a burial because her body was the only one recovered.

[@jdlee7490]

*SKIP*

[@NinJestre]

So we're supposed to believe that in a battle with 300,000 casualties of which 200,000 were KIA they only recovered one body?

[@johnnyrico7744]

@@NinJestre it was because he was holding on to her and the bugs eat these people so there not much left to recover sometimes.

[@justtwoeasy8415]

Nah. Because you got to smash.

[@AWESOMENISH]

@@NinJestre There wasn’t 300,000 casualties. She was recovered when it was only the Roughnecks, and was brought into the exfil ship because she was injured.

[@gb9884]

"Mobile infantry made me the man I am today." Should have showed that scene, deserves a sin off

[@andrewdunn8778]

Interestingly enough, that line is in the book, and is self-aware. When the recruiter is talking to them, he tells them that he has been intentionally put at the recruiting desk to slow down recruitment, because too many people are enlisting.

[@RinoGato]

One thing about the guy sweating so much - He's literally the only one jumping out of a probably pretty cooled down Spaceship right onto a desert planet. I'd sweat too. And Dizzy is the only one getting a proper burial because, I don't know, maybe she's literally the only casualty they took with them from the planet?

[@logix6866]

"You know what bugs me about this movie?" Hahahahaha

[@DWN9]

The "Death from Above" tattoo is due to the Troopers in the original novel being dropped in power armor from orbiting Starships, like the ODSTs from Halo. Hence the title "Starship Troopers".

[@duderitoz6953]

Isnt death from above also a paratroop saying?

[@EpecFale]

The novel is so much better.

[@ohilevoeauca789]

@@EpecFale That's because Heinlein actually thought about the story he was writing and the setting he was creating, and Veerhoven just wanted to call a shitty D-list movie "satire". If this movie had been named ANYTHING else, it would have been hilariously bad. But because it's called Starship Troopers, it's just bad.

[@raphaelcalado4335]

The books don't matter!

[@patrickborunda4749]

@@ohilevoeauca789 Comparing the first movie to the book I would say that they did a fare job of translating between the mediums. True some of the best parts of the book, like plot, were left out but the movie was still fun. What makes it 'bad' is that they then put out two more movies just to catch the technology of the movies up to the technology of the books.

[@spicyspeaker6187]

Getting in a fight then almost immediately getting a tattoo. Is the most infantry shit I can really think of.

[@TresTrefusis]

Most military thing to do in general lol.

[@pwrserge83]

@Gwyn and Gold Deploying those from orbit is probably a bit more trouble than its worth when you have total air superiority. (in theory)

[@Siggrim]

@Gwyn and Gold the intitial klendathu battle the Military had no idea what the bugs were capable of. Not to mention the terrain was absolutely horrible for anything larger than small troop transports. They figured a lightning quick smash and destroy would end the war

[@pwrserge83]

@Gwyn and Gold ok... 1. The Terran Federation is the exact opposite of "muh' fascism"... It is a meritocratic, voluntary service democracy. In fascism citizenship guarantees service, in the Terran federation, service guarantees citizenship. The contrast is vital. You can live your entire life in the federation as a civilian, and the only legal difference between you and a volunteer citizen is the franchise. (Which, affects your life not one bit.) As a civilian, you have no real responsibility to the state beyond taxes. As citizen, you can participate in the governing of the state, but have a responsibility commensurate with that power. If the Terran Federation was actually fascist, Jhonny's dad would have had that long rant about how citizenship is useless. 2. During the initial invasion of Klendathu, they had no idea what the hell they were dealing with. They though they were dealing with mindless insects which made shock infantry tactics more than adequate. Don't forget, the Federation military had decades of peace where they had no near-peer enemies, which means that their military structure was more of a peacekeeping quick reaction force than a real military. 3. Nuking the planet from orbit sounds like a great plan until you realize that most of the bug population centers are deep underground and more or less impossible to get to even with nuclear munitions.

[@pwrserge83]

​@Gwyn and Gold Kinda, you have to do federal service. While most people serve in the military, it is not the only form of federal service. The whole idea is to demonstrate a willingness to sacrifice personal gain for the benefit of the federation as a whole before you are given a stake in governing the federation. It's not compulsory. In fact, it is even discouraged. You can live a full and happy life as a civilian with the only loss being the ability to vote or hold public office. That's the core ideal of the Terran Federation. It's the Cincinnatis model of service for the public good. Cincinnatis was a man who was elected, twice, as the dictator of the Roman Republic who was content to return to the life of a simple farmer once his services were no longer needed by the Republic. One of the reasons why I think this book needs to be mandatory reading for all children is to understand a very basic concept. Power over others can only be granted to those who have demonstrated a willingness to sacrifice personal benefit for the common good. The franchise is power over others, by definition. As such, it is a terrible responsibility that needs to be treated with the respect it deserves, not simply a tool for personal advancement. That is the core problem with the universal franchise. To quote Heinlein, "Something freely given has no value". If a person doesn't have to EARN the right to vote, they will put no value in their vote and simply use said vote to advance their own interests. I think the world would be a much better place if we lived under the guiding principles of the Terran Federation. Individual rights are universal. Power over others is only granted to those who have power over one's own desires. It doesn't matter who or what you are. If you demonstrate the ability to put the needs of others ahead of your own, only then can you be trusted with power over others.

[@chargerman440]

Another sin: After Dizzy gets impaled by the bug, they pull out the giant piece of the bug that was left inside her. Didn’t they learn anything about basic first aid in their Basic Training? If something is sticking out of you , you never remove it because it can kill you faster. And they just rip it out, ruining any chance of her actually surviving.

[@chrisalexander8110]

That wouldn't have mattered. She has 3 other giant open wounds. She was dead either way

[@davethewastelander8326]

​@@chrisalexander8110tbh there are many things in this video which I think are subjective, like the sin for the propaganda movie.

[@oddjonsson2815]

​@@davethewastelander83261 million sins for that profile picture

[@Statalyzer]

LMAO at 18:25 - Carmen running and pumping her left arm like it's basically fine, even though her shoulder blade and collarbone were just shattered by a 2-inch hole running clean through her body.

[@montanamike7948]

I mean, how do you know what that would be like?

[@Kennymethod]

Quickest ever romance to ending. "I love you Johnny" "I'm dying Johnny"

[@clxwncrxwn]

Thank god, she was kinda ugly

[@warrocketajax373]

@@clxwncrxwn She was hot in Star Trek Nemesis.

[@Pinkranger87]

She was in saw 2

[@Kennymethod]

@@clxwncrxwn boooo lol

[@outlet6989]

"I'm losing a lot of blood and getting very Dizzy."

[@JackPotniy]

They have had "Death from above" tattoo cause they are troopers, that implies landing on an enemy land from above (from starships etc.) So that is a sin off!

[@WH40KHero]

*MEGADETH intensifies!*

[@truthinaction0000]

Finger squeeze triggers till bug guts cover your soul!

[@jaeger.editz_]

In the books they dropped from starships in mech suits.

[@favorites673]

@@jaeger.editz_ they get to do that in ST3:Marauder.

[@Anon-yz1xr]

The shower scene made sense to me, it's a society that has no use for ideas like personal privacy (also seen elsewhere, no one is ever alone), or anything personal for that matter, only the utility that the individual can render unto the state. It's simultaneously efficient hygiene and helpful in forming the closeness needed to go into combat together.

[@amityislandchum]

It's just a standard trope in fascist literature. That's the only reason it's in the movie. But despite this movie's commentary on fascism, it doesn't actually portray the kind of fascist state that would actually have co-ed showers. It wouldn't "help in forming the closeness needed to go into combat together." It would simply cause TONS of sexual assault... Much like the current military.

[@LunarKn1ght]

@@amityislandchum Based on a 2015 post on Defense.gov About 10,000 males are sexually assaulted each year vs roughly 8,000 females. With potentially more men being assaulted since men come forward less then women do. Also most Sexual assaults are same sex towards heterosexuals.

[@fierypandaofdoom]

@@amityislandchum you should go back in time and explain that to the greek and romans for their battle brothers ideas and how they slept with each other. Clearly it worked for them for a very long time.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

@@fierypandaofdoom Sacred band of Thebes was real, but was it like that for all others as well?

[@athras8822]

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Spartans, Athenians... essentially pre-christian world is pretty much a big orgy with anything they can find.

[@TheNefastor]

I've always assumed the bugs didn't target Buenos Aires but just Earth, and it just so happened to flatten the city Rico was from. Kinda like carpet bombing before we invented laser-guided bombs.

[@VicariousReality7]

The ability to launch a meteorite ACROSS AN ENTIRE GALAXY to hit a planet would require a nearly godlike technology and precision

[@robertjones6787]

@@VicariousReality7 Right. There is a theory that the humans let it happen or caused it to justify the war. Isn't like that hasn't happened before.

[@GeorgeMonet]

It is pretty strongly implied that the humans were the ones who launched the asteroid at Earth so they could droll up some nationalist anti bug sentiment and get the Earth government to agree to attack Klendathu. There is no way that the bugs could have managed to even hit our solar system let alone Earth from the other end of the galaxy. And if that asteroid was traveling at less than light speed it would have taken thousands of years to arrive in our solar system.

[@patrickrada2923]

@@VicariousReality7 *"The ability to launch a meteorite ACROSS AN ENTIRE GALAXY to hit a planet would require a nearly godlike technology and precision"* Not only that. Considering that asteroids only move at a tiny fraction of the speed of light, this asteroid would take millions upon millions of years to hit Earth. Due to the low speed and star density, the boulder would likely be captured by some star rather than make it through to Earth. Even if these bugs could bring this asteroid up to the speed of light and maintain the speed the whole way, it would still take tens of thousands of years and the release of energy at the speed of light upon impact with the Earth would have destroyed not only the city but the entire planet. Assuming the boulder was from the Oort cloud or one of the asteroid belts, the question still remains as to why space surveillance could have missed the bugs operating in such proximity. How do bugs actually move through space? But another completely different logic error: If this asteroid has been traveling for thousands or millions of years, then the bugs must have sent it off all that time ago. Why should they do this? At that time, people were still relatively primitive creatures without space travel and no one knew anything about the other. Consequently, they were not at war with each other and had no reason to send the asteroid.

[@nathancarter7020]

100% a false flag operation ​@@patrickrada2923

[@GoodwillWright]

Should've taken a sin off for every bug killed on-screen. Because a dead bug is always a good thing. Would you like to know more?

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

@retsaM innavoiG federation did nothing wrong - considering the fact they are fighting a defensive war -would you like to know more?

[@nickvanachthoven7252]

desire to know more intesifies

[@owenbunny4023]

Cool

[@OhFuckItsOlkv]

@@nickvanachthoven7252 I thank you.

[@EvgeneXI]

“The only good bug is a dead bug.” Is it known.

[@skrappyjon2019]

"we're ahead of the curve" Yea, so is that asteroid.

[@DiegoRuiz1991]

Foreshadowing?

[@Asher_Tye]

Lol

[@deaththekid201]

@@DiegoRuiz1991 llKLllll

[@drphot6050]

*Ding*

[@mylittlepuppy9116]

Everything wrong with ROMPER STOMPER... I Dare him...

[@kennethreed4730]

Looking through the comments, the one thing I don't see much spoken about is the driving sound design. That music that is played during most the battles. It really elevates the whole movie. I also noticed on a few of the sins, that some of them were answered in the movie at different points. Zander had mentioned he was shipping out to command school during the football game, might have been some type of ROTC type program. Also Denise's reckless leaving the spaceport, she mentions her instructors could not keep up with her and Zander tells her to not go faster than port speed or they get pilot privileges revoked. - Seems very nit picky- As can be seen in the comments this movie is much deeper than most people realize. The satire, the great actors that had smaller roles, It was really spot on. There is a reason it has been watched so much. I think at one time it had one of the highest DVD sales.

[@troutwarrior6735]

You missed the part when Carmen was impaled through the back by a bug limb half the diameter of her torso, and yet after that was literally running, shooting, and being otherwise completely unaffected 😂

[@DutchGuyMike]

Yeah, that part is still nagging me to this day. "Stands up and moves the arm/joint around like it is nothing" whilst in reality it would be limp as heck..

[@babscabs1987]

"They sucked his brains out" is the greatest single line in any movie ever made.

[@edschramm6757]

Michael ironside was godlike in this movie

[@babscabs1987]

@@edschramm6757 i can't picture anyone better to deliver the line

[@babscabs1987]

Should remove a sin for that line

[@wfcoaker1398]

We all have bros that we say this about.

[@MegaZeta]

oh

[@Joshioka]

Just as I was thinking : "Man I miss the Bonus Rounds" We got a Johnny Bonus Round!!! Died laughing! Thanks^^

[@itouchmazter5973]

There's NO WAY you thought that as it popped up but I like the comment anyway

[@firefiy8789]

The music was the same music played in some bonus areas in super mario odyssey as well, loved it when I realised

[@glebbokhan9777]

@@itouchmazter5973 I swear I hoped for one like 15 seconds earlier Expected humans get killed off hilariously tho

[@jonnypope2788]

I read this comment as the bonus round started

[@frankyfrank2010]

I didn’t even know that I needed a Johnny bonus round but holy crap lmao!!!

[@redfin382]

I love the "medic!!!" While the guys brains are laying on the ground.

[@likemoss]

I believe helldivers brought me here

[@linken0879]

You can’t sin cinema history for Not having a “pleasant” drill instructor. They don’t exist in real life either

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

@@moarkrabspointlesschanneld8467 AIDS

[@Ciborium]

The DI wasn't using "knife hands", which was recently prohibited in the US military for being "unpleasant", so by comparison, he was a "pleasant" DI.

[@linken0879]

@@Ciborium well. He did knife someone’s hand?

[@thawndoo]

@@linken0879 Clearly, they are Space Marines

[@anusmcgee4150]

As a former Navy guy, yes they do exist.

[@lightninghawk5981]

“To ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominates this galaxy now and always”! That would actually make a great slogan for a pest control company Edit: there I fixed it :)

[@kennethnwebb]

I'll just be taking this.....

[@Feefa99]

That sounds like something from Men in Black

[@glendarjj3991]

*Person who found a spider in their kitchen:* ok... that's cool, but can you just get rid of it...

[@CorneliusSchwarzenstein]

These are not 14 words, but close enough.

[@ObsessedCollector]

@@CorneliusSchwarzenstein "We must ensure that man, not any insect, dominates the galaxy now and always" Fixed it

[@troyhaskins6107]

I swear Carmen shows her teeth the ENTIRE movie. Never seen somebody smile so much in crucial situations. Also where she suddenly becomes Rambo knowing how to use the automatic weapons when getting rescued by pussy whipped Rico is hilarious

[@jeffman5428]

I like how this is getting popular again because of Helldivers 2

[@mwilliams1941]

"By the end of the movie he's going to be Jesus." Starship Troopers 3 : Let me introduce myself.

[@135Fenrir]

Also, "We never see them getting in people's heads." Basically the entire plot of ST2. And lets not get started on traitor of Mars (arguably the best of the bunch)

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@135Fenrir Nah, I still prefer the 1st over Traitor of Mars; but collectively, we can all agree that number 2 was by leaps and bounds the worst

[@sopcannon]

and then there is the cgi starship troopers.

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@sopcannon That's Everything past... number 2 I think... I think 3 was photogenic, meaning they did film the actors, but gave CGI effects... the rest were mostly CGI

[@freelanceryuu]

You’re kidding.

[@LegionIscariot]

Only thing wrong with this movie is they killed Dizzy, the best character.

[@masculine.alpha.nature8929]

After watching it again... she was the shit

[@Logan7281X]

AGREED!! (and not just because of the topless scene 😈)

[@lazerlord9324]

Was she not a vehicle to elicit a sense of loss the audience?

[@sjerkins]

The best tight end to Johnny's quarterback ever. . Dizzy was a much better character in the book. Shit, the movie evel left out that Dizzy was on the football team with Johnny and Carmen was a cheerleader. Bad writer and clueless director.

[@masculine.alpha.nature8929]

@@lazerlord9324 yea carmen was somethin little. Dizzy was some real. Get a women that's down for you like that

[@andrewhackney6286]

"The director didn't read the book, why should I?" Starship Troopers has always been high comedy, and probably not for the reasons you think.

[@ChipJohnson]

Yes, he absolutely should have.

[@aetherofthenorth9700]

I mean, I think most of us would have picked Dizz.

[@rarelycold6618]

@@aetherofthenorth9700 if you are into dudes, go for it

[@richisdisturbed]

@@aetherofthenorth9700 no, majority of us would've thought with our dicks and swerved the ironing board and straight for those lips.

[@dangeroustoys5668]

True shed of been a safer bet, since she had the hots for johhny, while carmen was going coureer, and yes dizzy got sloppy seconds

[@TheRoope97]

Im so glad for helldivers 2!

[@grapeshot]

Ironsides never a more appropriate name for one of my favorite actors who usually plays the villain.

[@danielseelye6005]

I hear Darkseid, but I also remember when he replaced Roy Scheider as the Captain of the seaQuest from "seaQuest 2032"

[@johnnyrico7744]

You know Sam fisher voice was inspired by a merc he met at his friends wedding.

[@Dung30n]

@@johnnyrico7744 Some say it was John Mullins, some say it was John Clark.

[@lionocyborg6030]

I've only ever known him as Sam Fisher and some military guy in another thing but I can't remember what it was. I think it was a marvel movie but I can't be sure.

[@Captaincory1]

@@lionocyborg6030 He and Clancy Brown, who played the drill sergeant, are often asshole military villains

[@matthewwynne939]

The special effects in this movie actually held up for quite a number of years...

[@nickkurzy2246]

I mean, most of it still holds up even now.

[@Ozem_Israel]

Yes sir, this movie kicked ass before kick ass.

[@Brennan0914]

Yeah, I think it still hold's up pretty good. Some of the larger bugs and close-up's are a bit meh, but i'd say some of it looks better than a lot of the trash coming out today.

[@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513]

Not to mention the dummy head of the guy who gets shot in the live fire training looks fantastic. Cinemas sins has really gone downhill.

[@Brennan0914]

@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513 Yeah, I re-watched it after seeing cinemasins' video. They actually used quite a lot of dummy's that I had never noticed before, like when Michael Ironside gets his legs ripped off, you can really only tell if you freeze frame it and the Zander dummy in the brain sucking scene was also really well done. There's plenty more examples of the practical effects that I thought looked absolutely amazing, even some of the 3D effects looked great considering it was 1997. I'd hate to think what the rendering time was like for some of those scenes that have hundreds of bugs in them. Paul Verhoeven really knew what he was doing with the effects to make a lot of this stuff believable. I think Cinemasins is a bit of a hack, I've thought that ever since his Captain Marvel video. Personally I found that film to be awful, filled with bad plot points, weak character development, in-your-face politics and really boring to watch, yet it still got less than 100 sins? And this film gets one of his very arbitrary 'BONUS ROUNDS!' this time adding a sin for every time the lead characters name is used? Yeah, OK mate. Sorry for the long-un, but I find I'm only truly happy when I have something to rant about these days.

[@TheImpaler27]

"Their asses should be dead as f****n' disco." - You have won Cinema Sins.

[@proscapedesigns]

This should have been a YT Short with 0 total sins! Just opening and credits saying perfection!

[@Colechamdiceman]

'Her eyes are up here, Johnny' he says while chastising Johnny even though he's clearly playing a clip with Diz peeking down and Johnnys' Johnny

[@mrmojomajestic8317]

I just sang the words "Johnny's Johnny" to the tune of *"Wooly Bully"* and I have no idea why, but I'm certain I'll have it stuck in my head for at least the next 24 hours. _DING_

[@Colechamdiceman]

@@mrmojomajestic8317 Johnnyss Johnnnnnay; Johnnys'-Johnny... Johnnys'-Johnny, Johnnys'-Johnny, Johnnys'-Johnny Lmaooo

[@CoalCreekCroft]

But the Johnny mentioned may have been mistaken for the Johnny Johnny, not the Johnny name, thus the Johnny in question would ... waitaminute. Lost track but point taken!

[@Colechamdiceman]

@@CoalCreekCroft If we're lost now just think about when we're talking about Peters' Peter!

[@Nesher_IL]

I will sin your comment for saying Johnny twice

[@Dularr]

But without Starship Troopers, Firefly would never have their Alliance armor.

[@shuboy05]

That armor also showed up in Power Rangers Lost Galaxy!

[@whitealliance9540]

@@shuboy05 You have no armor

[@voltronik9141]

Babylon 5 as well

[@MegaDcmp]

... and Master Chief's tag-along lackeys would also have nothing to wear

[@frigginresulrum]

Also makes an appearance in G-Saviour I think, Bandai's attempt at a live action Gundam film in 2000.

[@Capdiablo]

“I haven’t seen football this ridiculous since sooner” lmfaoooo

[@fishfingers4547]

I never understood how old Zander was supposed to be. He's playing on a high school sports team while looking about 35. Then after joining Fleet at the same time as Carmen he's not only an experienced pilot but a qualified pilot trainer in the same amount of time it took her to find her locker. Oh, and he's obviously experienced at manipulating the system in order to position vulnerable female subordinates wherever he wants them...

[@aljanssen7748]

The drill sergeant sin isn't fair... They're almost all like that in real life. It's not just the movies.

[@wiredforstereo]

If you're going to brainwipe soldiers into mindless automatons, there's obviously a right way to do it.

[@MenxiGoblinQueen]

on the job anyway, they DO have a very important job after all, a chain is only as strong as their weakest link. I'd love to see a movie where the MC has a scene with their drill sargeant later and they're just relaxing and having a drink or something talking about how the DS is proud of MC and such because most DS's off the job can be the most whole people you'll ever meet. thanks for reading this spew of thoughts with little to no purpose.

[@kalashnikovdevil]

@@wiredforstereo Someone didn't watch Full Metal Jacket. Or read Starship Troopers for that matter. Dummies in the infantry die young, and the military has no use for robots.

[@kalashnikovdevil]

100% Al, Gunny Ermey portrayed an awesome Marine Corps Drill Instructor in Full Metal Jacket, because he was a Marine Corps Drill Instructor! No acting required, just show up and go to work whipping the recruits, who happened to be actors, in to shape.

[@wiredforstereo]

@@kalashnikovdevil I have watched Full Metal Jacket and I have read Starship Troopers. I didn't say robots. I said automatons. A machine that follows orders.

[@robwagner2789]

Michael Ironside deserves a goddamn Oscar for this performance. "They sucked his brains out" and not even a tiny smirk - that's some serious acting.

[@jamesyandsonsoutdooradvent9394]

He was always a underrated actor

[@hotsizzle8668]

Lmaooooo

[@silvereagle2061]

Scanners

[@WakenerOne]

His best "not even a smirk" came in Community, in the homage to Law & Order, when it's decided that the dispute will be settled in a hearing with him "prosecuting." As he leaves the room, he gives a slight respectful nod and says with all due gravity, "I'll see you in class."

[@digitalfootballer9032]

See you at the pahhty Richter!

[@npcx-mq6cr]

I for one will totally watch "Starship Troopers 2: The Search For Dizzy"

[@jq747]

Those ship monitor graphics are laughably antiquated even for 1997, they look like they're from a ZX Spectrum =D

[@niceguy169]

During the Bonus Round, when Dizzy is like "J-J-J-J-J-Johnny", you REALLY should have stuttered the Ding, like "D-D-D-D-D-D-Ding", LOL!

[@heichelb]

I was also waiting on Short Circuit's "Johnny!" being includes, along with Karate Kid and whatever other cheesy movies come to mind.

[@theguyfromwalgreens]

That’s would’ve been hilarious!

[@whitedevil2]

or thrown up Adam Sandler's "t-t-t-t-t-today junior!" from Billy Madison

[@SaveFarris1]

"I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits." That's two rules.

[@mustavogaia2655]

that explains his grades on math.

[@MagusKain]

Everyone fights; no one quits. One thing can have multiples parts. It's like when people make one wish to be rich and famous.

[@stormcloudsabound]

@@MagusKain in your example, there’s an “and.” there is no ‘and’ or semicolon implied in the script or captions for the rules.

[@MagusKain]

@@stormcloudsabound I 100% expected that to be the response. ^.~

[@AnEvilMathematician]

Plagiarizing and paraphrasing/misquoting Ender's Game: Counting is not part of the rules. (We don't count so good).

[@andrewwebster9779]

Says propaganda won't work today "hell divers II would like to argue"

[@dudepool7530]

Yup. I saw this movie in theatres. I can confirm we all shouted "Suave" every time they said Rico (suave. Still effects me today)

[@donaldderrickii5405]

I was too young to see it in theaters but when I first watched it on VHS I also shouted "suave".

[@SparkY0]

Proof that propaganda works

[@stompchunkman4248]

It's impossible for me too. If I hear Rico somewhere, I have to answer/think "Suave".

[@jimb.7523]

*FUN FACT:* The actual Rico Suave worked at a Blockbuster after his musical career was over. He'd never hear the end of it when he stocked the shelves with this movie.

[@Stiltonator]

"satire as a blunt object" Apparently not blunt enough, some people still think this is just a 'genuine' action movie. I've also heard it described as a 'fascist movie' lol...

[@Calbeck]

It IS a genuine action movie. And what satire? We should revamp the UN to be this. -:)

[@cidshroom]

Pewdiepie did an excellent video comparing the European reaction to the American reaction around Starship Troopers. Apparently the criticisms of the US military were a little too subtle for some

[@thydzz2180]

It do have a bit of fascist format to it, with the propaganda and all. But I prefer the argument that it's a movie about totalitarianism, that at least makes a bit sense

[@jaybatsford]

@@thydzz2180 But its not propaganda though, its news....unblemished, raw and complete honest within the confines of the society. Propaganda wouldn't give you the choice of "Do you want to know more?" It would just ram it down the populaces throats and would certainly not under wartime conditions report casualties and losses seen after the failed invasion of Klendathu. The news in Starship Troopers is far more open, truthful and free then our own media organisations are today.

[@problems3485]

@@jaybatsford I really don’t get how it’s described as fascist besides the racism angle witch isn’t inherent to fascism or authoritarians in general it’s simply an overtly honest country with an American angle on society

[@barragethree5047]

Can't believe you didn't mention the fact that when Ace pulls out the neon plastic violin, he starts playing "Dixie"

[@naughtybeast]

It is common for people to graduate with one being an officer and one being an enlisted rank. The people who are accepted into officer training start as ensigns and become lieutenants once they graduate, the enlisted start as privates and will remain as privates with some becoming sergeants and corporals once they graduate.

[@sentripetal]

graduated from high school to officer? Please

[@naughtybeast]

@@sentripetalGraduated from boot camp, military academy, military college or other type of military training school.

[@Salmon_Toastie]

@@naughtybeastI assumed he was going to a military school or some equivalent. Probably a flight school that’s rich af ahaha

[@seangannon6081]

I can’t believe they’ve never sinned “Mars Attacks”. * DING *

[@jimb.7523]

How this movie (and True Lies) has never been on anything after DVD is beyond me.

[@suryacharan4004]

@@jimb.7523 true lies bluray was released 6 months ago you can find it in the movie site you use to download movies

[@DannyJane.]

@@jimb.7523 True Lies has been on TV lots of times. I just saw it was on yesterday. Sorry I can't remember what channel.

[@jimb.7523]

@@DannyJane. Noooo. I don't mean on TV. I meant on a media...form (i.e. VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, 4K). I don't ever remember it being on anything more advanced than the DVD. Surya above says otherwise, but not once have I seen a Blu-Ray of True Lies in stores since it originated.

[@brentage5000]

Why must you sin Mars Attacks? Why must you assault that fine piece of cinema? Why can't we all just....get along?

[@shieldwolf8093]

"I'm getting to old for this shit." Cliche. Adding a sin

[@shmup6955]

I’m doing my part! Spill oil, liberate malevelon creek

[@MrJhofree]

HOW IS EVEN CARMEN ALIVE AFTER THAT INJURY? 🤣🤣🤣- DING DING DING!

[@benabramowitz18]

Starship Troopers is the best movie ever. It has EVERYTHING. Badass lines, violence, explosions, love, intrigue, mystery, naked chicks, Casper Van Dien being handsome (with a butt shot), a coed shower scene, NPH, a Busey, Michael Ironside being badass, arena football, brain bugs, the game changing flip six three hole, and laser tag. What more could one ask for?!

[@lochofmceo]

Reminds me of stephon on SNL.They got everything....

[@AnEvilMathematician]

Reebok light up sneakers. They light up the night. You also forgot to add: cool futuristic click bait websites.

[@John.Not-Jack.Daniels]

Power armor, orbital insertions, hand flamers...

[@agonleed3841]

More black people. I wanted more black people. Other than that, was a great movie. One of those things that actually helped usher me into joining USMC

[@mylittlepuppy9116]

Everything wrong with ROMPER STOMPER... I Dare him...

[@TheJimSkipper]

The only sin is no shower scene with Denise Richards.

[@chainsaw5211]

Have you seen her lately?

[@ElRollioau]

@@chainsaw5211 She definitely has not aged well

[@stefanhoppe9280]

Probably wasn‘t in the budget. If you had to choose between CGI bugs (which btw where utterly incredible for the time), CGI power armor, or a Denise Richards shower scene, many people obviously, and unfortunately, make the wrong decision. 😉 OTOH, imagine the absolute cult status of that movie if it had had all three of those!

[@TheJimSkipper]

@@stefanhoppe9280 That is why the third Starship Troopers is so entertaining.

[@hewhoeatsall]

Who?

[@madmartian2]

I like that no character questions the actions of the state/military. It shows respect for the audience. It's an Easter egg that's there if you bother to notice it. If you don't, it's just a fun action movie and you kind of *are* a character. It's masterfully done. -10 sins.

[@dayofthesnakes]

Remember when Carmen was impaled through the shoulder by the Arachnid when captured by the Brain Bug? Why didn’t she bleed out shortly after? That was a fatal injury for sure but she shrugged it off like getting a splinter.

[@Utubesuperstar]

And Was still using her arm

[@jaywillman2458]

"Who's Johnny?", she said. And smiled in her special way.

[@cherimiss7983]

Clearly we now need an episode about Short Circuit.

[@MrRolyat98]

Be good be good be good, be good be good be good, be good be good be good JOHHHHHHNNNNYYYY!

[@mrmojomajestic8317]

Johnny … we're sorry … won't ya come on home

[@thrashpondopons2776]

Well Played! i was going to go with Johnny Got His Gun... but was afraid that was too grim!

[@johnedsel]

Playing games is part of human nature

[@hiddentruth1982]

having a dad that was a drill sergeant in the 80's and 90's I can honestly say they were all like that.

[@pierrevilley6675]

So you confirm the legend that says that drill sergeant's belts slaps harder than regular dad's belts ?

[@hiddentruth1982]

@@pierrevilley6675 can't say as I was never hit with a belt by a regular dad. I will say that mine used his ammo belt if it was the closest one at hand.

[@SlayerRunefrost]

Plus, he obviously is unaware of the fact that R.Lee Ermry was an actual drill instructor before doing FMJ and that he wasn't "acting".

[@mr.nobody42]

Did your dad make you and your siblings wait in front of your seat at the table until he arrived before allowing you to sit for your meal? My old man was intense.

[@hiddentruth1982]

@@mr.nobody42 he wasn't that strict but we weren't allowed to drag our feet

[@FigmentImage1]

How do you not sin their use of Mazzy Star's "Fade Into You" as background music during the Rico/Zander fight scene? That remains one of the strangest decisions in cinematic history.

[@joeygallina3714]

Absolutely not. That shit is S+ tier decision. Great Song. Great Scene.

[@FigmentImage1]

​@@joeygallina3714 Totally agree it's a great song AND a great scene, just not great together. It's such a jarring thing to hear playing behind a fight scene. But to each their own. Still a fantastic movie!

[@JaseRider]

"Everything wrong with Starship Troopers," I was expecting the video to be 0 seconds long.

[@REENIExoxo]

The “Rico Suave” reference KILLED me. Can you believe I saw Gerado perform at Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 1991 when I was 14? Yeah. Neither can I.

[@mikek4288]

I come from a demented childhood of listening to Dr Demento at like 11pm on sunday nights so i dont hear Rico Suave, i hear Weird Al...Taco Grande

[@LazyartistLast]

" Rico Suave" not sauve.

[@MrRolyat98]

He’s an attorney in Southern California with two daughters last I heard.

[@REENIExoxo]

@@LazyartistLast Thanks?

[@drunkenvanguard3352]

Yes, why would a member of the Mobile Infantry, Infantry deployed via Droppod, from Orbit onto the ground, choose death from above as a motto. Boggles my mind.

[@michaelsangster2354]

I guess having everyone get an earing was to difficult to film.

[@RinAldrin]

It's also a saying used by the 82nd Infantry Division before they became an airborne Division

[@Michael-hi5zd]

Probably didn't read the book.

[@10GaugeManiac]

oh hai Johnny! You're my favorite customer." oh no what if Tommy Wiseau was in that movie? "Johnny they blew up your home town" haha what a funny story, Mahrk.

[@bloody_tungsten1382]

“By the end of this movie he’s gonna be Jesus”. Had me dying

[@DawidKov]

"Has there ever been a firm, fair, and/or pleasant drill instructor in cinematic history?" Dude, has there ever been one in actual history? Because I had several, and they were all dickwipes, acting *exactly* like the Full Metal Jacket one did.

[@julesdebeckker627]

I don't wanna be mean but I"m pretty sure the US is the only country that consistently has such "evil" drill instructors

[@DawidKov]

@@julesdebeckker627 I'm Russian, and served in the Russian nuclear forces. And from everything I can gather, they've been this way for centuries. At the very least they were the same in the Imperial army in early 20th century. So it's definitely not just the US.

[@stevebrown4401]

I was thinking the same thing... My DS were all assholes

[@calebdoty9090]

Even more specifically, the guy in Full Metal Jacket was an actual drill instructor, who was playing the role exactly the way he actually did it. There is a very specific psychological reason why they do this, it is intended to complete upend the trainees life, and integrate them into a new culture as fast as possible. And also build a shared bond among the platoon by everyone hating/fearing the drill sergeant.

[@AbdullahToorMystic]

There has and his name was Khalid Ibn Walid

[@heyheytaytay]

The fact that SO MANY people who watched it didn't notice the in-your-face satire, and just wrote it off as a "bad sci fi movie" says so much...

[@wolfwarrior1176]

Main issue i have is that it is so SO far off on what the books were like.

[@J0HNJ0RDAN]

I think it may be both.

[@Chromedbustop]

Actually everyone noticed the satire. The issue was never with that. The difference now is that people just appreciate the satire more and think it's a stroke of genius, where at the time we just didn't really care. But there is a difference between not noticing and not caring.

[@ra803g6]

Crazy thing is it works well as satire and as a pretty good action movie. Can't believe it's not more loved. It's a gem.

[@amityislandchum]

@@Chromedbustop No, people genuinely did not grasp that it was satire then.

[@iSPELLinAMERICAN]

How do you not sin a live fire range right in the middle of a training ground where anyone could get shot

[@thealexkirschproject8036]

You missed a great opportunity to throw in "Oh hi Mark at the end" from The Room at the end.

[@Hiraghm]

Nearly a minute into the video, and you still haven't sinned the first, most important, most relevant, and BIGGEST sin of this movie: NO POWERED ARMOR.

[@Royal_Sniper]

You are out of uniform soldier, where is your power armor?!

[@rafaelneumann8365]

Powered armor would have put the movie budget into the billions in 1997

[@Hiraghm]

@@rafaelneumann8365 No it wouldn't have, not in 97. Hell, the Video Toaster was becoming dated technology by 97. And, don't make the movie if you can't have powered armor. That would be like making Iron Man without powered armor.

[@mustavogaia2655]

@@rafaelneumann8365 Then this movie should have been postponed. Apparently in the book they have some kind of mech armor. The lack of it and the failure in just bombarding the bug planet with the asteroids surrounding it totally took me out of the movie.

[@TheVillainInGlasses]

No no, the first, most important, most relevant, and biggest sin of this movie is them letting Paul Trashoeven direct it.

[@whoslacks]

While doing QA I will often say “this software has more bugs than starship troopers”

[@ColinRichardson]

Stealing..... Thank you

[@WH40KHero]

Coming your way to steal dat meme!

[@matthewtuckey]

Do you ever say, in a southern drawl, 'they've been chasin' bugs in this system ever since they installed it.' (Name the film.)

[@nickkurzy2246]

*grabs joke* "Mine now."

[@Ayrshore]

You did QA on GTA Trilogy?

[@laokon]

one sin: this review exists.

[@Valmer9681]

Sentence: Will Smith's shoe Will Smith: was that your auntie

[@AlexZSteinlauf]

"If Rico keeps being promoted this fast, by the end of this movie he's going to be Jesus" I would like to formally start a petition to introduce a new rank into the military.

[@benrussell-gough1201]

I'm pretty sure that "to you, I'm Jesus" is a fairly typical line from a senior NCO's motivational rant.

[@TheMelbournelad]

He did get to general.

[@Leos131]

Every nco already thinks that they’re Jesus soooo....

[@SomewhatSlightlyBored]

Pine Kirk still holds the record though.

[@MegaZeta]

To be fair to Verhoeven, though, Rico's rapid promotion in the movie is part of the satire. The joke there is that the lives of the soldiers, supposedly the honored as "citizens", mean nothing. Rico gets promoted simply because so many people died, and he's too dumb to realize it.

[@llongone2]

"If Rico keeps getting promoted this quickly he's going to be Captain Kirk in one of the Kelvin Timeline films!"

[@pwrserge83]

Yes, it's almost like the Terran Federation is some sort of meritocracy or something.

[@DocGoose1980]

fun fact a shot for every Johnny your liver will wake up next to you in the morning crying

[@Almost_Forgotten_Films]

1:50 - I just noticed how in the word "FINALS", the 'F' and 'I' are so close together it looks like a different word.

[@user-pg7uj4bp4q]

you missed one: "Hank from Breaking Bad isn't making an off-color joke in this scene."

[@romangarcia608]

that’s exactly what i thought.

[@jimb.7523]

Also: "Captain of the Roger Young isn't wearing a bra for a top in this scene."

[@AllanFox15]

Biggest thing wrong with this movie is that Johnny Rico is in love with Carmen instead of Diz i don't care if she's Denise Richards I'd still choose Diz every time.

[@SentinelGhost]

I was 10 when this movie came out back then I still didn't understand why he chose Carmen over Dizzy. To this day I still think Dina Meyer is crazy hot and she's 50 now

[@scotthodgins7975]

Honestly, I think that Rico's love interest was portrayed accurately. He was " in love" with a woman that didn't really want him (typical for many of us men), and only found the woman that would have been best for him when it was just about too late.

[@watcherx990]

Biggest problem with the movie is Dizzy not getting enough screen time in the shower scene or when her and Johnny hook up in the tent. Dina Meyers is so smoking hot.

[@MegaDcmp]

When I clicked the 'like' button I heard the CinemaSins 'ding' in my head

[@stefanhoppe9280]

That‘s because in the book, Dizzy is a dude. Who dies in the first chapter.

[@tony7572]

I can say from experience on my basic training in 2011 that yes every drill sergeant, or drill instructor definitely wanted to be R Lee Ermey lol was definitely an inspiration 😂

[@jimb.7523]

*Am I the only one that thinks Patrick Muldoon (Zander) looks like "Discount Rob Lowe?"*

[@Sam-yx9ry]

Oh wow, he does too haha

[@Sam-yx9ry]

Oh wow, he does too haha.

[@mrmojomajestic8317]

Word to yo mummaluvin' mumma !!! 👊😎🚬™ I cannot not think about it EVERY time he's on screen !!

[@sergeymeshkov]

When I was a kid I always thought it was Lowe

[@joesamson26]

Zander is no one’s friend, if Zander were an ice cream flavour, he’d be pralines and dick.

[@nathanwright5496]

Everything wrong with starship troopers in two words: The sequels.

[@mylittlepuppy9116]

Everything wrong with ROMPER STOMPER... I Dare him...

[@nathanwright5496]

@Molecule Mind I agree with the trilogy, south park accurately stated how I feel about the fourth installment.

[@thrashpondopons2776]

I Know!!! & why didn't they do something with The Skinnies??? They were the more important adversary in the book!

[@goldengryphon]

Well, at least the book is nothing like the movie. And a better love story than Twilight.

[@glebbokhan9777]

@@goldengryphon A pile of dog shit I've stepped in earlier today is a better love story than Twilight

[@robbyg1232]

Fun fact for all you walking dead fans sugar Watkins, the black dude who dies with the nuke at the end, also plays father Gabriel.

[@Asianevermore]

As for Harvard… it’s pretty believable. The school was founded in 1636, already 385 years old. While Oxford started teaching in 1096 and became university in 1249. They came to be before Aztecs and lasted till this day

[@personM4N]

"Why the hell did the bugs target Buenos Aires" You mean instead of the Golden Gate Bridge?

[@slevinchannel7589]

These Nude-Scenes show that even back then, the Actors were deranged enough to do such Shameless, unneeded Scenes, just like nowadays. But no, nowadays people are just much more desensitized and more stupid. I mean, its just common practice to have them for NO Reason, even if they feel incredible displaced. Oh, i have seen some in situations where it was so displaced it was like Batman running through the Background in a Horror-Movie about Zombeavers. Or to summarize all that: Sluts, male or female, all sluts. Whoever does such scenes is a Loser by Default.

[@octaldecimal2729]

@@slevinchannel7589 Are you feeling okay?

[@lukecooper6971]

exactly. the they aimed for earth yes but i doubt they meant to hit a specific town lol

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@octaldecimal2729 Makes me sad if i see people thinking Nude Scenes are natural and have to be in Movies.

[@Tha1337er]

@@slevinchannel7589 I thought we did away with comstockery after the Victorian era ended.

[@HauntedChronicles]

About drill instructors...the narrator has obviously never been in the military. All DI's are derivative of R. Lee Ermey. :-)

[@DreadnoughtHvor]

This to be honest

[@austinkieso390]

i thought the same thing

[@Icebergeification]

Yeah no shit be wasn't in the military it's like that's a requirement for citizenship

[@nickkurzy2246]

Honestly Zim is actually the most lenient DS I've ever seen. He bends the rules multiple times for Rico because he sees potential in him (I think, been a while since I saw the movie). He gets Rico's punishment to be just the lashing, whereas today Manslaughter is at least a year in prison, as well as fines and a permanent record. Rico's record is cleared after his lashing. Also, Zim gives him the, uhhh stick with rubber bands? to bite on, saying "It helps, trust me, I know" trying to empathize with Rico. Find me a Drill Sargent, real or fictional, who will go to such lengths for someone who so royally fucked up.

[@brianl8481]

@@nickkurzy2246 Is it bad that when you said Zim, I wondered when Invader Zim became a drill sergeant?

[@Thomas-uk5cp]

You missed the cut over her eye moving. To be fair, this is my favorite movie and its the first time i noticed it

[@oksAjax]

For implying that there is something wrong with Starship Troopers. TEN LASHES!!!

[@danhair]

The irony of this war movie is that it's the most piss planned war campaign in movie history. Soldiers and mobile infantry are thrown at an enemy they don't know or never trained to fight.

[@100nitrog2]

Yet shockingly accurate to the asymmetrical wars the US has been fighting since Vietnam.

[@seprithlicastia463]

@@100nitrog2 Ha! Try nearly all of them. I think the Mexican War is the only one there was any coherent plan for. Independence War the US had no real infrastructure (understandable, in that case), but they had made little improvement by the War of 1812 -- and lost because of it. Civil War lacked any real strategy until 1864 and in World War I the US learned nothing from watching Europe fight a trench war for years. World War II the US spent years running in circles in Africa before finally coming up with a plan to invade Europe and Korea... Oh, boy, Korea was basically just Vietnam-lite.

[@cutler_beckett]

@@seprithlicastia463 Yeah, but at least the tactics in the more recent wars weren’t just throw a bunch of soldiers at the enemy with no air support, bombing runs, vehicle support, squad weapons, or reinforcements.

[@seprithlicastia463]

@@cutler_beckett That is... sadly true, yeah.

[@henrygustavekrausse7459]

@@seprithlicastia463 Korea was the opposite of vietnam- more like World War One.

[@sdfkjgh]

I'm surprised it took them this long to get to this one. It seems like something they'd be chomping at the bit to do as one of their first videos.

[@agonleed3841]

I've been here since the beginning and I dont remember it, but I also thought the same as you. Thought about going back to see if it even existed lol

[@winxclub998wizardmaster]

wonder how long till they cover the 2nd 3rd and 4th movie

[@MartyC89217]

17:14: The Bug Farts x2 = ClusterF**k again🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cthrekgoru]

Civilian your video can be considered treason...

[@ovalteen4404]

"The Search for Dizzy" probably would have been a better sequel than the actual one was, though.

[@Gaarafan007]

True, the second one wasn't great. #3 was better than #2 but not as good as #1. I enjoyed #4: Invasion quite a bit, and I have Traitor of Mars still unopened wrapped in plastic. Hm, perhaps I should watch that today.

[@VegetaLF7]

@@Gaarafan007 I flat out disregard 2 and 3. Invasion was fun and so was Traitor of Mars. Go ahead and watch it, Dina Meyer reprises her role as Dizzy in it

[@EijiTheRonin]

@@VegetaLF7 Wait... DIZZY LIVED.

[@VegetaLF7]

@@EijiTheRonin Watch the movie and you'll see. I don't want to give it away

[@EijiTheRonin]

@@VegetaLF7 I will hunt this movie down!!

[@byronkennedy7203]

I actually love this movie. Even Denise Richards awful acting, "I'm going to be a pilot." I dare you to not cringe at that scene.

[@Foxtrot369]

It wasn't awful acting, the movie is satire on fascism and people who accept it without question, marching into the giant mincing machine with a smile on their face, she was playing the part perfectly.

[@hschnabel3055]

@@Foxtrot369 does it freak you out af too that ppl would rather accept the "let's all get ourselves killed for the greater good" is a part of the actors bad acting rather than satire about totalitarism? I mean this thing came out when I was in my teens and the way folks in the film are expected to blindly follow orders and the 1:1 shiny happy people Media coverage of even the most gruesome deaths... Did strike me as kind of odd. My original sin seems to be being German 🤔

[@juanjoseph]

@@hschnabel3055 Nah, people can't see the irony in the movie because they've been brainwashed themselves. Just think about how radicalized people are in 2020 and how they laugh when any person that's a political opposite has a problem in their life.

[@rpsyco]

@Molecule Mind The film is actually satire for both Fascism, a military state, and the propaganda used to control the people. It tries to show you it from the perspective of a civilian that doesn't realize they're being manipulated to believe what they are, which is why you don't see the actual leaders, and only see the military recruiters at best.

[@Foxtrot369]

@Molecule Mind What exactly do you think fascism looks like from the inside? Have you seen pictures or footage of the _(non-Jewish)_ German public during the 1930s? They all seemed pretty happy and obedient, because they were oblivious to what was really happening and they didn't question their government's propaganda that everything was great and only going to get better. Besides which, what else do you call the whole "Citizen" vs "Civilian" thing in the movie? Where Civilians can't vote, have to pay for education & aren't guaranteed a licence to have children. Whereas Citizens can vote, get free education and have priority licenses to have children. And the only way to become a Citizen is to work for the Federation, military, teaching or test subject. What else is that other than fascism?