Everything Wrong With The Empire Strikes Back

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[@jvinson]

@ 3:35 - Han survived because he built a shelter from...something. He said, "...but it will keep you warm...til I get the shelter built." You actually see him starting to build the shelter afterwards.

[@Astro4545]

+jvinson I was thinking the same thing.

[@cameronbreeze6918]

+JJ the Gamer Guy because snow Ice and whatevr the tauntaun is carrying are nothing?

[@Astro4545]

***** The Tauntaun had saddlebags.

[@Alican2687]

+tiaxanderson Free cooling!

[@seansimmans4055]

The tauntaun cavity is probably the size of a moose's, which can shelter a man. If Luke is mostly inside, and Han uses the carcass as a wind lock, fortifies with snow, huddles close to Luke, survival isn't just possible but probable. Also, it doesn't look to be colder than ten below.

[@rhynlock11]

"Do or do not, there is no try", badass Yoda is badass, but didn't Obi Wan tell Anakin that only a Sith deals in absolutes?

[@darthbigred22]

+daniel delgado LOL there is a lot not to like about the old Jedi Order but I half think that's the point of the prequels. That the old guard is too stuck in their ways (minus Qui Gonn) to see they are being manipulated until it's too late.

[@jasonblalock4429]

+daniel delgado That line is kind of a Zen thing. The point is that Luke shouldn't get caught up focusing on the *process*, but should instead focus his will on the *outcome*. He should simply do his best, and whether it works or not, he'll learn something from the effort. But because Yoda is a cryptic motherf*cker, he can't actually be bothered to explain this high-level philosophy. DING!

[@aazo5]

Why does everything people say have to have an extremely deep meaning and be 100% true? Just because Obi Wan said that does not mean that it is true lol

[@GnKsK]

+daniel delgado The phrase "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" is, actually, dealing in absolute. By that logic, Obi Wan is a Sith. I don't like that phrase much because of that, and I usually disregard it.

[@andge1001]

+daniel delgado He did. Then there is the question of wether the statement "Only Sith deals in absolutes" isn't itself an absolute... which would mean that either Obi Wan really isn't as bright as people would like to believe, or Yoda and Obi Wan are themselves... Sith! :O

[@lizzychrome7630]

I can't believe you forgot the one major flaw in the movie that's actually kind of grating; the fact that everyone treats Lando like a selfish coward for selling out his friends, when he *had a city to protect.* By choosing the millions of innocents he was charged with protecting over his old friend, Lando proved if anything that he *wasn't* the scum crook he used to be, and that he truly has grown into his position as leader of Cloud City.

[@DavidsuperZhong]

He actually did a little shoutout in sin 108 for Lando

[@lizzychrome7630]

Davidsuper1215 Zhong Maybe I missed that one. I'll have to watch it again

[@neco9590]

Michael Gallagher well, kinda, expect not at all, considering basic mathematics... taking in the risk of some dead humans for saving mqny more... its basically compareable but more as the reverse reaction to critics...

[@ronp6009]

This is not a flaw. Everyone is thinking selfishly at this time and just see his betrayal of them.

[@lizzychrome7630]

shashank sahay No one is falling for your clickbait. Go away.

[@therealbobafett]

So you’ll take a sin off for the “I know” line but you won’t remove a sin for the most iconic movie twist in history?

[@domthebomb924]

Me: That’s a good point Boba Fett, Wait aren’t you dead from that embarrassing jetpack mishap? Boba Fett: THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK!

[@bluepearl_22]

Just because it's iconic, doesn't make it good.

[@therealbobafett]

blue_pearl_22 I hardly think “I know” is a better line.

[@bluepearl_22]

@@therealbobafett never claimed that it was

[@BK-sh2pn]

blue_pearl_22 But it is good

[@danmenard6917]

"No one in this series just gets stabbed by a lightsaber, do they" I refer you to Qui-Gon Jinn.

[@TimTE01]

Also whatever the hell is supposed to have happened to Obi-Wan. I mean, he got touched, his body disappeared and he was suddenly a ghost.

[@ovaloctopus8]

Its a force power. Qui gon taught obi wan how to do it

[@BLUELINKBR]

I refer you to Han Solo.

[@haleyplessinger5174]

BLUELINKBR too soon

[@kretduy6959]

That stormtrooper in the force awakens that gets stabbed

[@TLV-ee1sg]

Yay, no Kevin Smith!!!!

[@hyperion1028]

YEEEAAHHH!!

[@rodrigocastro3394]

YEAAAAAH

[@ggt47]

+Hee Tzing Wen yep I didn't watch it because of him

[@oziumshift]

+That Guy From Rythm Heaven I love Kev, but he ruined that episode. Guests in general aren't particular suited to this format.

[@TakonanLP]

Thank god!

[@Timasion]

1. Han erected the tent to survive the night. 2. Luke got by the blockade because the Imperial Fleet wasn't going to waste time with a single fighter. 3. The evil spot is where a Dark Jedi died and his influence create the dark spot.

[@Timasion]

***** According to the book, Yoda tracked down and killed a dark Jedi there. He hid there because he knew that the presence of the Dark Force there would hide him from Vader.

[@tonywrestles2]

+Brian Stuart Yep, beat me to it.

[@Timasion]

***** I have no idea.

[@tonywrestles2]

And sadly, none of it is canon anymore. :-(

[@lynnpoint6395]

+Brian Stuart 4.  The Imperial Troops arrived at the Cloud City before Han and company because the Millenium Falcon was damaged...I don't think it even had it's hyperdrive...which actually should have been a sin, because without its hyperdrive, how could it possibly move between star systems to get to the Cloud City in the first place?

[@heyyou9693]

"Would it help if I got out and pushed?" Leia Great line

[@ronjones2266]

Hey You 96 Han: It might!

[@patrickglover7506]

*grunts of frustration pushing a heavy cargo ship*

[@Drew-bc7zj]

"I thought you were coming on to me." - Han, probably

[@shasta4501]

10:13 If Luke hadn't brought his weapons in there, Vader would also have been unarmed. Think about it. Luke: What's in there? Yoda: Only what you take with you. Luke brings fear into the cave. Darth Vader, the one he fears, is in the cave. Luke takes his lightsaber into the cave. Vader has his own lightsaber. Luke ignites his lightsaber. Vader ignites his own lightsaber. So what Yoda said was true, from the correct point of view.

[@Tayl0NP]

Lucas isn't that clever, is all I'm saying...

[@kim4309]

​@@Tayl0NP Lucas didn't create the movie on his own, he had a highly skilled team of writers and scene managers, critiquing and changing and improving everything, unlike in the prequels, when Lucas did have full control, and nobody really argued with him.

[@ir9319]

Not Lucas but Luke simply isn't that clever

[@Smilymoney]

Fu*k you Obi Wan

[@jadefeather4802]

Man, its a good thing he brought his lightsaber then. Jedi or not, you are not going win a fistfight against a dude with metal hands.

[@alexergas]

“The Jedi that trained me” *Qui Gonn cries*

[@45akaColt]

As seen in a prequel, Yoda trained younglings (later when they became a padawan, they would follow around 1 jedi mentor). So Yoda may have trained Obi-Wan before Qui Gon became Obi-Wan's mentor.

[@alexergas]

45akaColt Yeah you’re right, really good point

[@thebystander1636]

@@45akaColt He did, and Yoda was concerned over his anger issues (especially when sparring with bully students) Obi Wan actually aged out of the program, and was sent away. If his transport hadn't been raided by space pirates (that Qui Gonn happened to be on after declining Obi Wan as a padawan the day before) and Obi Wan hadn't saved Qui Gonn and others in a slave mining colony from death, he never would have been a Jedi. Qui Gonns previous student that he was close to crossed to the bleak blackness, and Qui Gonn was already a longer rogue type. Of course, this is just old canon now, but. To me, that's what is truth. Luke and Mara Jade, Witches of Dathomir and Han kidnapping Leia, Thrawn, etc. Way better than this shit we got. Han turns dumb and senile, let's his emo son kill him. Leia blows off Chewie for Mary Sue. Luke turns his back on everyone when needed most over the guilt of something he never would have done, polar opposite of all his development through the OT letting the galaxy get retaken by the bad guys even though he could have prevented it easily. Anny way. Enuff of that

[@GuadalupePicasso]

Hahaha, eff the prequels.

[@kimberlykrapohl3238]

Considering that Obi-wan didn't mention him after Phantom M- Meh- Episode 1, he would cry.

[@Murph_gaming]

What do you call Luke inside of a Tauntaun? Lukewarm I'll be here all week

[@SgtZaqq]

Great one

[@Healermain15]

What do you call 2 Jedi in an iglo? Jedice.

[@chivalryalive]

Murphdawg1 -- Smart allak! :-D

[@dreamofyouandi]

Fun fact about Star Wars: A group of stormtroopers is called a disappointment.

[@stephenvargo6076]

Haha

[@bluejay0895]

This is one of those movies where the sins don’t matter

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

I don't get it

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

Joseph Gabriele except the sequels

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

Joseph Gabriele Luke’s too OOC (he believes Darth Vader is a good person even though he committed mass genocide but tries to kill his nephew over a dream)

[@BK-sh2pn]

Joseph Gabriele Nah. The only perfect Star Wars movies are Empire and A New Hope

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

Joseph Gabriele I still dislike the sequels but if you like that I respect your opinion. Whatever floats your boat

[@SuperStreetWarrior]

I wonder how big surprise was that for the audience, back in the day, when Darth Vader revealed he is Luke's father. That surprise would never happening in today because every spoiler is revealed right after movie's premiere.

[@Legionzzzz1]

Pretty big actually you can sometimes find old recordings with people at the theater.

[@kannaman211]

It was awesome....the entire theater gasped....and all anyone was talking about after the movie was it the truth or was Vader lying. In ANH the first time I saw it...the entire audience stood up and cheered when the Death Star blew up. Those movies were great than and still great now.

[@FernieCanto]

People allow themselves to get hypnotised, emotionally kidnapped by a fluffy piece of fiction, let their entire culture be manipulated by what's nothing more than a huge money machine; and when anyone talks about the negative influence cinema has over people, there's always someone to say "relax, it's *just* a movie!". It's funny how people will switch between completely contradictory stances depending on what's convenient to them at the moment.

[@quanhittersupreme6738]

Fernie Canto Wait, you mean to tell me that entertainment, which is used to elicit emotional response and is a sign of sophisticated culture, elicits emotional response and influences culture? I never would have guessed. By using the words "kidnap" and "manipulate," you make cinema seem like some attempt at brainwashing. In reality, whether you like it or not, cinema and entertainment in general is an important and positive aspect of culture. Just because something has an agenda, which is almost always the case in entertainment, does not make it emotional kidnapping or manipulation. Being a tool for profit does not make something bad. Were I to make a movie, I would want people to be attached to it and for it to have an influence on culture, because that is a movie's main purpose, along with profit. If anyone made a movie for profit and nothing else, then it would not be as good as another movie that was made for both profit and enjoyment.

[@FernieCanto]

Link Dolphin "Wait, you mean to tell me that entertainment, which is used to elicit emotional response and is a sign of sophisticated culture, elicits emotional response and influences culture? I never would have guessed." My point is that, whenever someone says exactly that which you said, there'll always be someone to reply "it's just a *movie*", trying to negate any of that response or influence, because that's really fucking convenient. With just those four words, one can reduce the entire industry into complete meaninglessness, which is, of course, bullshit. "By using the words "kidnap" and "manipulate," you make cinema seem like some attempt at brainwashing. In reality, whether you like it or not, cinema and entertainment in general is an important and positive aspect of culture." Well, look at Battleship Potemkin. Entertaining *and* propagandist! (thank goodness that Godwin's law does not apply to the soviets) "If anyone made a movie for profit and nothing else, then it would not be as good as another movie that was made for both profit and enjoyment." Try telling that to Michael Bay, then. Or better yet: to the people who insist in financing his movies. Anyway, my point was mostly about the contradictory opinions people will give in different circumstances. Movies are either the most powerful and most influential force in the universe, or they're "just a movie", depending on what you're trying to defend at the time. Movies *can* be good, but with the massive influence they have, they can be terrible. They can perpetuate myths and irrational fears, just because they handle the "shock and awe" thing much better than factual truth. They can distort history and bury reality under make-believe fluff. Hell, even TV has a power big enough so that a U.S. justice can use Jack Bauer as an actual example that torture is a good interrogation tool. Now *that's* fucking magical.

[@officialninjachannel]

A little explanation for sin 18: the Jedi are taught to sever limbs rather than kill. It's a stole of fighting. Of course, I guess it's still a sin, because the movies never tell us that.

[@officialninjachannel]

*style

[@IchHassePasswoerter]

+samuel newsome True, but the only person in the entire Star Wars universe I know of that died from stabbing with a ligth saber is Fay.

[@kenneth1997]

+IchHassePasswoerter .Blackplant Don't forget about Qui-Gon Jin; he got mauled.

[@officialninjachannel]

+Kenneth Moseley I see what you did there.

[@IchHassePasswoerter]

Kenneth Moseley LOL. Didn't really remember that one.

[@Remlap1223]

Ok, I can actually watch this video now. God, Kevin Smith is so ungodly unfunny. I wouldn't put him in a movie I didn't like just to be ironic.

[@aotua1033]

+Remlap1223 You know ungodly funny means really funny, right? Not whatever you thought it meant.

[@Gnator8t4]

Same! I didn't watch EWW A New Hope for the same reason!

[@Shaneo0oo]

Aaaand the bitching continues... stfu, I hope jeremy puts him in for the remainder of the stars war eww just to piss off the ungrateful asshats like yourself who bitch about a free video on the internet that his parents pay for. You and anyone like you can fuck off.

[@kagelynx]

+Gnator8t4 same

[@Remlap1223]

Welsch Laffarou Oh come on man, like you've never made a typo before in your life.

[@fredererpower]

How dare you not remove a sin for “I am your father”

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Exactly

[@Mhats]

because many Obi Wan and Yoda could've told Luke that themselves, terribel writting and execution. now i know what prequel haters mean about George Lucas's skills in making movies.

[@Yougotcaged102]

Because it's overused and it's just been parodied so many times likely

[@generalgrievous3731]

@@Yougotcaged102 Toy Story 2

[@Yougotcaged102]

@@generalgrievous3731 One of many examples

[@Babalooza]

Jesus Crhist Jeremy the evil domain is there because a powerful Sith died in that cave, leaving a permanent dark side presence. Yoda chose to live there because his light side aura and that dark side one would cancel each other out, therefore rendering him undetectable by the empire and avoiding the purge. God didn't you read the books?

[@MrConstantine02]

+Babalooza No, why should he have? If it was really an important piece of information, the movie itself should've found a way to deliver it. One shouldn't have to rely on books to enjoy a movie. Especially a book that was written after the fucking movie!!

[@Caedus696]

+Babalooza Books which are no longer canon.

[@jmiester25]

+Babalooza Even still, it's irrelevant from a Force standpoint. From the perspective of what the movies told us, Yoda lived there because he figured no one would ever find him there.

[@zoranmudronja4324]

+Babalooza Explaining things away via novelizations after the fact is just dishonest.

[@kylepessell1350]

+Zoran Mudronja I don't know about "Explaining away". Most of the Star Wars novels and comics that made up the expanded universe are based on the entire star wars canon that George Lucas had put to paper before the first film was even made. He created the entire history of the star wars universe before the movies not after them. He even thought that he would make a total of 9 episodes but only ended up making 6 himself before he got tired of it. The problem with most films is that it can't explain things the way books can. Any cinema sins episode that discuss a movie that has literary equivalents can find most of the answers to their sins in the pages.

[@SideBerner]

Why does youtube think I want to pay $16.99 to watch Empire Strikes back, when I can buy the whole series for less than that?

[@wfTitus]

@Austin King Your that person that wants to see the world burn aren't you...

[@kalanrichardson6541]

@Austin King fuck off you stupid little brat the Phantom Menace was shit in what way does it beat this masterpiece? It's like comparing Batman and Robin to The Dark Knight, loser

[@TheSegadroid]

Google/KZbin (also Apple stc...) do not set the prices. They are just a platform for studios to sell movies.

[@donovanjohnson6123]

Although I disagree with Austin King there is no need to get so triggered. It's only an opinion

[@SuperD00D]

Austin King I like all prequels and OT movies, as well as The Force Awakens, but TLJ has some problems lol

[@LuckyFlesh]

"Leia isn't pregnant with Lando's baby." *cough*Finn*cough*

[@rebbelwivcause]

+LuckyFlesh Dude!! Love the Abe Avi.. NYUMNYUMNYUMNYUM.... "Help!!!weeeee!! HEEEEELP." *BANG BANG* "HEEHEEHEE"

[@urbex_coasters]

Finn is force sensitive, as the lightsaber use proves. Although he didn't beat Kylo, supposedly a very strong force user, he still gave kylo signifigant injury. One explanation: Finn has the force.

[@angelwhispers2060]

lol

[@ConnollyUK]

Kylo was toying with with Finn the entire time and simply got over-confident. As soon as Finn landed a lucky shot on Kylo he instantly disarmed him and pwned him.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

Also, severely injured. I don't know what thumping his blaster chest would would accomplish, perhaps making it hurt some more so he wouldn't faint from pain? The only acceptable thing is no blood loss, as the blaster blast bould bave bauterized bhe bound.

[@bobafett2205]

This is my favorite movie. As I don’t die in this one. 🤞

[@darkestwolf6640]

A hunter like you I have respect

[@CommandanteRamon]

You don't die in the third movie either...

[@ReroutedYearAD]

Isn't there a number of them that should be your favorite, then? I gotta rewatch Solo and Rogue One to see where you died.

[@lorddeimon9528]

This is the way.

[@JohnWick-vh2qy]

You were badass in Mandalorian.

[@KittelMD]

I mean, two years later and years after the original film... but come on. I am your father is definitely a sin off. We’ve been desensitized to it since then, but that was huge at the time!

[@emilykruger2844]

Justin Kittel It deserves to be sinned

[@bookerjones8123]

I'm watching it on TNT and he.....just said it! Chills!

[@dernvader6876]

@Anonymous Anonymous - actually the emphasis is on 'I' not 'am' so it should be *'I!.. am your father'* I would have used a slanty 'I' rather than the imperitive but I don't know how to do that here... accent on the 'I' not 'am'... duh.

[@dernvader6876]

@@bookerjones8123 People watch TNT? They must have edited like 80% of the movie out...

[@bookerjones8123]

@@dernvader6876 I'm quite sure. I just ran across it while flipping around. I'd certainly never turn off some crap cable channel to actually "watch" a good movie.

[@lita8617]

"This may smell bad kid, but it'll keep you warm, until i get the shelter up" ... that's why Han didn't need to get into the taunton himself.

[@paulgibbons2320]

Luke had already been out longer. He was injured in shock and prehypothermic.

[@puttputt524]

Cassidy Hill based on my research taking shelter in a carcass does protect people from exposure.

[@WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot3267]

Rob Roy If it was possible that the warmth from the dead “Tauntaun” would be able to save someone from hypothermia.

[@brendan4184]

Actually, while Luke was in the tauntaun, han went to Han Hotel. Look it up on KZbin

[@stevenpina1983]

Cinema sins is wrong all the time

[@mermaidman961]

Actually putting the hand on C3P0's mouth makes sense. If I put my thumb on my phone speakers it blocks the sound.

[@CamiloMaster10]

It muffled the sound not completely stops it like in this movie

[@lmjones7716]

Exactly. He is a protocol droid.

[@TimTE01]

It's a joke.

[@sherrybernard462]

It's C-3PO not any other obvious wrong spelling of his name.

[@adamcabrera3751]

Obi wan: only a sith deals in absolute Yoda: do or do not there is no try Me: I think yoda is a sith lord

[@francescapatti2934]

Windu: a sith lord ?!?

[@akshatsharma9740]

I literally spit on my laptop and books after reading this.

[@brickforge12]

Yes,the one we've been looking for.

[@sakhalnakhash1123]

I think it was Yoda who force-smoke pulled Luke's X-Wing down from space and crashed it into Yoda's doorstep.

[@rgwashere8723]

also "only a sith deals in absolutes" is an absolute. that line means nothing, it's just another nonesense line told by the preachy and overconfident jedi, which led to their eventual downfall.

[@timyac]

"Yoda, the Jedi master that instructed me." No love for Qui-Gon 😞

[@MrPiccoloku]

Maybe he finished instructing Obi.

[@thibaldus3]

+mr. Wldasoldmysoul4pussyasateen We learn that Yoda spent quite some time teaching Obi Wan too in the prequels. Actually one of the first line uttered by Obi Wan in The Phantom Menace is "But Master Yoda taught me to be mindful of the future". So yeah, he was teached by both. No need to bash the prequels more than necessary.

[@BryBurger]

I believe Yoda was more like a mentor to all Jedi in his heyday.

[@macdaddytheman638]

Well in Episode I Obiwan brings up Yoda teaching him and then in Episode II you see Yoda teaching younglings with the floaty lazer shooting balls basically confirming Yoda teaches younglings in the beginning of their path of becoming a jedi

[@homemademovies179]

mr. Wldasoldmysoul4pussyasateen I don't see how people hate the prequels they are good movies the second ones a bit ehhhh

[@Statalyzer]

Han built a shelter - it's in dialogue and you can see him start to set it up! That's why he doesn't freeze.

[@gathoblaster4329]

exactly what i was saying!

[@Statalyzer]

No, he keeps Luke in there while he's building the shelter, and then they both get in the shelter.

[@toxic_potatolordtherobloxi2435]

Statalyzer

[@jimmywalker7381]

Statalyzer Ik and he also can't make a better movie and he can take a lot of sins off am I right?!?!

[@Alina_Schmidt]

Han didn't get into the shelter - ähm, animal like creature dead body being disgusting like... And this isn't even a shelter: This animal is dead! It's gettimg cold. Soon. It's in a snow storm.

[@Cyro_2235]

whaaat? "I am your father" is the most memorable movie quote in history and you don't take a sin away for that? well' im gonna give you a sin for that!

[@thespiritofjonathanjoestar6805]

Sergeant Cyro Exactly!!!!!!!!!

[@Marxeru]

The most memorable quote in every movie is "the." I always remember the characters say "the"! (Lol jk)

[@h4724-q6j]

Sins don't mean anything.

[@eduardobaiz834]

Luke's reaction is so shit that even if he took 100 sins off he would have to take them all back

[@eduardobaiz834]

"NOOOOO. It's not true. That's imPOssible!!" Bro, this part is so awkard and annoying. Gotta say it: Mark's acting was a *shit*.

[@Schluebricant]

The line when Luke arrives at the "arena" and Darth Vader says, "the force is with you, young Skywalker....but you are not a Jedi yet" would remove every sin in this video.

[@wormaheldharrier3122]

"No one just gets stabbed by a light sabre in this series, do they?" Me: "Qui-Gon Jin, Han Solo..."

[@themaninthesilversocks4125]

Kit fisto

[@Yugioh_Turk]

This video was relased before the 7th movie, so Qui-Gon only.

[@eminemfeat97]

And Kit Fisto

[@lauragodinez1326]

+Detelin Arnaudov kit fisto wasn't stabbed he was slashed.

[@user-iy4ye1pr8y]

Saesse tin

[@musicf3b]

does anyone else think that leia isnt all that hot?

[@superfisto]

+musicf3b meh, she has her moments

[@8-BitEric]

+musicf3b as han solo said, "she might not look like much kid, but she's got it where it counts".

[@blodiaaa6990]

Nah she's not. Padme could obtain the D though

[@arthurwaring]

Fuck off.

[@CometX-ing]

+musicf3b I guess you have to grow up with it, unless *you* did then I don't really know. I personally find her pretty average.

[@drost47]

so it keeping him alive before it eats him actually makes sense. its below freezing on this planet. if it killed him, he would freeze and become harder to eat.

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

+drost47 Nice idea.

[@QrazyQuarian]

+drost47 Let's not forget that there are plenty of animals on Earth that prefer to eat animals live. Wampas could easily have the same preference.

[@ADRIAN38727]

+drost47 Plus it keeps the prey fresh for longer.

[@Zaidon7]

+drost47 A coyote in my neighborhood grabbed my neighbor's little lapdog thing. It was about the size of a chihuahua. They heard whining in the woods out behind their house, so they investigated it and found that the coyote had buried their little dog halfway into the ground, leaving it alive, presumably to eat later.

[@QrazyQuarian]

Zaidon7 That's completely believable. Scavengers like coyotes will sometimes do that.

[@jeebus2313]

0:24 Jeremy... Not only was the Battle of Hoth itself a victory for the Empire... But literally the entire movie was the heroes getting their asses handed to them by the bad guys and the Empire winning in the end.

[@brad_hensil]

Not surprised they wouldn’t understand that the heroes gets their asses kicked in a film called “ The Empire Strikes Back”

[@scottb3034]

Eh, i wouldn't say the entire movie. the Empire sure fumbled a great deal of it. really apart from Rebel's self-inflicted wounds (cough hyperdrive cough) the Empire only kicked their ass on Hoth and after Lando handed them over on Bespin (after Boba did all the dirty work tracking them down). That said that is a lot of ass kicking.

[@coletonpallatto]

​@@scottb3034ok but getting their asses kicked on hoth and bespin literally constitutes 2/3s of the movie lmao. And don't forget that Vader wiped the floor with Luke during the climax of the movie too

[@scottb3034]

@@coletonpallatto more like half the movie. The asteroid chase and Dagobah were the majority of the movie. Also I did concede there was a lot of butt kicking, just not the entire movie of it as OP said.

[@coletonpallatto]

@@scottb3034 well if you wanna be technical, Luke was getting his ass kicked by Yoda on dagobah as well. And Han got outplayed by the empire during the asteroid chase considering boba was able to follow him to Bespin. The whole movie was constructed around how the heroes were competent but the empire was always 1 step ahead. And nah the asteroids and dagobah were not the majority of the movie

[@astrogobo1558]

12:40 Obi-wan was literally RIGHT THERE when Leia was born, yet Yoda still has to tell him there's another Skywalker? Ding!

[@ShellShock794]

That would be a sin on the prequel's part

[@Yugioh_Turk]

That wouldn't really stop them from sinning this movie too

[@Nick94956]

Unless he was lying to Luke, he said in ANH that he didn't remember R2 or C3PO so maybe he actually forgot

[@astrogobo1558]

Nick94956 He didn't say that he didn't remember R2 or 3PO specifically, he said he didn't remember owning a droid, which makes sense, because he never did, so I doubt he forgot that Padme had Leia.

[@Statalyzer]

I always took it as he didn't think Leia had enough force potential, but Yoda disagreed.

[@wilhelmsarosen4735]

If Vader means "father" in Dutch, what did the Dutch audience experience? Vader (in Dutch): "I am your father." Dutch audience (rolls eyes?)

[@apoorna5302]

XDDD Poor people, surprise was ruined

[@Double-R-Nothing]

Oops.

[@kevinkchao8]

It doesn't mean it meant father in dutch the dutch would automatically assume he was the father of luke i mean cmon that's a huge jump.

[@apoorna5302]

IK The audience's reaction was PRICELESS

[@wilhelmsarosen4735]

kevin niang Still much smaller of a jump than the one people who don't speak Dutch had. I have no idea what their reaction was, so I was just speculating.

[@AstroPsych_]

December 1st, 2015: "Nobody just gets _stabbed_ with a lightsaber, do they?" 17 days later...

[@stari9894]

Qui Gon, Obi Wan. I will say no more.

[@jshariff786]

Qui-Gon, yes. But Obi-Wan got hit by Vader with a slashing motion, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[@amanibob1416]

If memory is correct, Dooku stabbed, (not through and through, but still, stabbed), Kenobi twice in Attack of the clones. Before that, Maul stabbed Kwi-Gon,( fatality), through the stomach... Lightsaber have heating/burning effect in the prequels, rather than the more clean cuts and open flesh of the iv, v and vi, but the motions used where stabbing/poking attacks, not swiping or hacking, (in those cases, at least).

[@benjibeast5575]

Snoke

[@ariahazelwood3842]

*COFF* Han Solo *COFF*

[@skins4thewin]

Really? No Sins off for the "I am your Father" scene? Aka one of the greatest plot twists in Cinema history? C'mon Cinema Sins, get your shit together!

[@trevorerickson5205]

Yeah but to be fair there are some reasons to dislike the twist as well: 1. Everyone knows it at this point 2. If you pay close attention to details it’s easy to guess 3. Just because it’s iconic doesn’t mean it’s good

[@skins4thewin]

@@trevorerickson5205 The hell are you talking about man? How would anyone know who's watching it for the first time in the early 80's? There really wasn't much to hint that it would be the case. And what's not good about it? What other movies had such an epic twist? Yeah, it was pretty damn iconic for the time, we simply take it for granted now since it happens to be such an iconic scene. How many more scenes in cinema history can you truly say are more iconic than it? Not many I presume.

[@trevorerickson5205]

skins4thewin First of all Vader actually means father in another language. Second of all shouldn’t it be someone’s opinion on wether they like the twist or not? Or are you gonna sit here and tell that person otherwise because there own personal opinion is wrong?

[@skins4thewin]

@@trevorerickson5205 Well sure, believe what you want. I think it's safe to assume that the vast majority of ppl would disagree with you. You are certainly in the extremely small minority here. It has already been heralded as many as one of the best plot twists in movie history. And I also think it's safe to assume that most ppl would not be aware that Vader means father in another language, if it is even true.

[@trevorerickson5205]

skins4thewin Oh yeah keep it mind not once in this whole conversation I said I disliked the twist. In fact I love the twist. So stop putting words in my mouth. Just expect defeat and move on dude.

[@aryastark9111]

Another bad movie based on a great game by EA.....

[@sebastianmaron3853]

You better be trolling

[@Shadow07Warrior1989]

+Arya Stark "Another."

[@picaludica]

Considering EA didn't even exist when this movie first came out, that is quite an achievement! :p

[@catalan8241]

+Arya Stark George Lucas is known for directing these terrible cashgrab movies based off of EA's original IP's, I don't know why this guy is still allowed to make movies!

[@xXGhostStalker]

-Deleted- Not even gonna bother anymore

[@sniffthecactusduh]

I can't believe I'm holding a "Everything wrong with the Star Wars Saga" marathon.... what is life?

[@terrellm7571]

Watching*

[@terrellm7571]

Pretty sure he watching it

[@zachbear]

I did that, then a EWW Harry Potter right after it. Then my eyes ached and my throat was sore from laughter.

[@thebrackingestbrackforu3273]

I’m doing it

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

I feel bad you had to sit through the eww a new hope. Kevin Smith was SOOOO annoying in it.

[@DocsDota]

"Nobody gets stabbed by a light sabre." Qui-gon did XD

[@vicount3944]

+DocsDota Dooku got beheaded ..

[@realBatman-89]

+TheSkipRow Gaming beheaded isn't stabbed

[@sakhalnakhash1123]

+DocsDota Agen Kolar was run through by Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith.

[@sakhalnakhash1123]

+DocsDota Agen Kolar was run through by Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith.

[@darthbigred22]

Amazing how only the Sith understand the tip of the blade is just as deadly as the edge.

[@Scrunk194]

I, too, love the “Then I’ll see you in hell” line from Solo, but it makes me wonder what hell is like in the Star Wars Universe. A bunch of dead sith? Dooku trugging around without hands? Would Grievous still have a cough? Fun to ponder, ennit

[@leemichael2154]

Hahahaha hahaha!! Brilliant comment

[@Scrunk194]

@Lee Michael Thank you very much!

[@leemichael2154]

@@Scrunk194 it conjoured up a funny imagining of dooku muttering"I'm truly in hell I can't even touch myself" lol

[@RokuHanmar]

There is a fine addition to Grievous' collection that always remains just out of reach

[@World_One_Productions]

Pretty sure we all got a definitive answer as to what a Star Wars hell looks like, on December 20th, 2019.

[@ReverendTed]

8:24 - And not just any planet - on Anakin's home planet. With his actual relatives. Using his actual name. Witness Protection, eat your heart out.

[@darthvader538]

you think i'd go back to a planet full of sand?

[@bobfeet573]

+Darth Vader exactly. Also you thought padmé died before giving birth, the twins were separated and tatooine is both controlled by the hutts and the empire ignores it

[@darthvader538]

Bob Feet yep, but those are minor reasons, sand is the major issue

[@darthvader538]

Hans M. Sigfried of course, have you ever seen sand on a star destroyer? i don't think so

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

Yes, it's coarse and irritating and gets everywhere... like ectoplasm vomited from ghost skeletons...

[@Gemnist98]

"No, I am you father." Sin: HOLY F*CKING SHIT. This is the greatest plot twist in all of cinema. I am duty-bound to remove ten sins, and I don't think anyone will object."You were lucky to get out of there". Sin: This could have been a lot funnier had Luke made some witty joke...

[@deadmams5113]

In the old one he says your lucky you don't taste good it was halarios

[@Gemnist98]

I know; that's what I was referring to. They usually sin some of the re-release changes, so I was bringing that one up.

[@ThePhoenixChannel]

Except if you watched from the return of the sith

[@Gemnist98]

The Phoenix Channel Why's that? Because Anakin and Padme have "the least believable romance"?

[@shillaryclinty8661]

+Luke Dias At least they have one. Thx to the force recycled, han and leia are complete losers :)

[@KCarver]

Wait, did you miss Han's Hell reference? 'Apparently in a galaxy far far away they developed the religion of Christianity first.'

[@Gemnist98]

He removed a sin for it. I don't know why.

[@username45739]

dumb

[@NewYorkKnightsCombat1]

"Hell," as a concept, existed in other religions. The word "Hel," in fact, is from Norse mythology.

[@KCarver]

New York Knights Combat other religions based on Earth. Point in fact I don't really care and am just being picky, but since he hammers movies for the slightest infractions, it would stand to reason this would be one.

[@NewYorkKnightsCombat1]

K. Wright Well, we could go for the No-Prize, and say that in this galaxy far, far, away, the developped the concept of "Hel" a long time ago. Then when the Jedi came to Earth, they were perceived as gods by the Norsemen. This would be the origin of Hel on Earth, the name of which was adopted by the Christians and applied to English translations of the Bible. :)

[@jameslane9537]

"The 'C' in C-3PO stands for 'cock-block"... I had just taken a swig of beer and proceeded to nearly choke to death after I heard that...

[@alexreilly6121]

dead means no shagging, 3p0 nearly got you too..

[@rodrigoriquelme6724]

Why didn't you take 20 sins off the Imperial March?!?

[@PupdudePwns]

Because no one cares. *DING!*

[@theunknownblock5942]

why didn't he take 20 sins off for the big twist? the world may never know

[@PupdudePwns]

***** ...NOPE! *DING!*

[@majikmessiah]

because the sins don't matter :p

[@PupdudePwns]

Majik Messiah Hello, and welcome to Whose Line Is It, Anyway, the show where everything is made up and the sins do not matter.

[@LucidLivingYT]

"What is is about this series and chopping off arms?" See when you have a sword and someone throws a punch at you... free real estate

[@puttputt524]

Raxius its all of Star Wars when Jedi aren’t trying to kill someone.

[@dannybeads3672]

Lol for real, what a moronic sin... “what’s with these movies and chopping arms and hands off?” Ummm.... well... they aren’t just swords, they’re friggin to plasma swords that cut through pretty much anything like butter, so it cuts through flesh like it’s just more air... so yeah.... when fighting with those super swords.... I’d say the most common thing to happen is gonna be hands/arms/limbs being chopped off... lol such a dumb question. Like asking what’s with a WW2 movie and all the gunshot wounds?

[@LadyOnikara]

It does seem like George Lucas had a fetish though. It's just like Tarantino and feet at this point.

[@GreenStoneKnight]

They forgot to sin the fact that *LANDO WAS WEARING HAN'S CLOTHES AT THE END OF THE MOVIE!!!!!*

[@vinyldash2333]

wtf is up with that?

[@icecold9511]

Um, probably borrowed from the Falcon. He kind of lost everything when he lost cloud city.

[@sag6445]

@@icecold9511 nah it’s just bad writing

[@ElephantsOnStiltsNJ]

Harrison ford didnt want to come back for the third movie. He was supposed to die with the carbonite and billy dee williams was going to take over for him

[@alphaxan8175]

@@sag6445 UGHHHHHHH “bad writing” this “bad writing” that 😒 I hear it all the fucking time and there’s never any explanation as to WHY it’s, somehow, bad

[@Oharris995]

7:28 - according to Mark Hamills Twitter, the snacks included sesame bread sticks and tic tacs (white candy or pills). Legit TicTacs.

[@calebsawyer0719]

I agree completely.

[@Chemist-ob9uf]

I guess the rest really is hush puppies, Cheetos and cheese blocks.

[@dr.k8610]

I love how he didn't even comment on "I'll see you in Hell!"

[@eladiotrujillo7230]

Boss Man He's like i'll just remove a sin cause i have no comments prepared for this.

[@tommyscott8511]

Does that mean that Christianity exists in Star Wars? Or if its Hel, Norse Mythology?

[@tychogoedhart286]

@@tommyscott8511 or, and this might sound crazy, all speech is just Aurebesh or galactic basic converted to english, and hell is just the english equivalent of whatever they have out there Or it's a saying and ain't nobody got time for making up new ones that are still recognizable by the general audience

[@tommyscott8511]

Both of those are totally valid, and "I'll see you in Toregsh" or whatever bollocks George Lucas would invent doesn't hit the same way. I just noticed it the other day, and thought I'd bring it to the nitpickiest channel ever

[@timothyhoffman9090]

Who else got chills at the 'I am your father' scene?

[@yarpen26]

+Timothy Hoffman damn, i got so many chills out of so many scenes in this movie i lost the count. let's see, the hoth battle, the han and leia kiss, pulling the x-wing out of the swamp, i am your father, piett shitting his pants fearing vader is about to choke him to death (which doesn't happen)...

[@timothyhoffman9090]

yarpen26 Star Wars is LOVE Star Wars is LIFE

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

+Timothy Hoffman I got chills when I fist saw and I already knew about that twist!

[@lmjones7716]

+Timothy Hoffman John Travolta... And they're multiplying.

[@hermannsamuelsen108]

That should have taken 25 sins atleast

[@robbskywalker64]

The fact that they didn’t take off a sin for the greatest plot twist in cinematic history is pretty sad.

[@Mhats]

the Hero becoming The Villian is a way better twist.

[@robbskywalker64]

MadHatterx in what movie?

[@Mhats]

@@robbskywalker64 ummm the prequels, mainly Ep 3 Revenge of the Sith

[@robbskywalker64]

MadHatterx Thats not a twist. A twist is something the audience doesn’t expect. Literally everyone knew what was gonna happen in episode 3. That was the entire point of the prequels.

[@Mhats]

@@robbskywalker64 not if you watch the Prequels first. like watching The Hobbit before you watch LoTR, like you know Bilbo survives when his life is in danger when meeting Smaug. or if you know Rey is a palpatine before you watch Ep 7,8 and 9. Anakin is stated to be the Chosen One to destroy the Sith, not join them, bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.

[@NavyGuy2OO7]

The one I'm surprised you missed is as the Falcon pulls away from the fleet, Lando is totally wearing Hans cloths....like WTF Lando...stay out of my dresser!!

[@aDreamCapture]

Yes, thank you! Was just about to comment this!

[@j-mohunter5670]

he needed a changed of clothes and that's all that was on the Falcon. He didn't have time to pack. No sin. Never understood the people who make a big deal out of this.

[@NavyGuy2OO7]

They clearly had been there for a while, I'm sure he could have gotten some new cloths by then. Its still a little weird to be wearing Hans cloths at that point.

[@j-mohunter5670]

I doubt they had an Express store on that medical ship. A little weird, maybe, but hardly sinnable.

[@aDreamCapture]

The way I see it is that Harrison Ford hadn't extended his contract to Return of the Jedi (Whereas Fisher and Hamill had), hence being frozen in carbonite. I think Lando's character was brought in as a potential replacement for Han, should Ford have decided not to return.

[@mediamattersismycockholste562]

Luke to Han on Hoth: "I don't detect any lifeforms" Gets thumped by abominable snowman... lifeform.

[@bluepearl_22]

And yet people still claim that the OT is flawless LOL

[@bluepearl_22]

And yet people still claim that the OT is flawless LOL

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@@bluepearl_22 why did u comment twice?

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@@bluepearl_22 why did u comment twice?

[@febrian0079]

@@bluepearl_22 all movie had flaws, even the best one and nothing in this world that flawless

[@atticusyk9400]

I honestly thought he'd take off at least one sin for the "I am your father" thing.

[@codythedoggo7671]

Id think hed take out all of them

[@johnapple6646]

I don't think he actually watched this movie

[@SamuelKristopher]

John Apple You think he somehow spent hours and hours editing together footage of the film with his eyes closed?

[@johnapple6646]

Yes

[@coletrickle1775]

I think he should add a sin for the emphasis being on the wrong word in that sentence. It is I.... am you're father. It should be I ..AM.. Your father.

[@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy]

In the world of Star Wars, there must be thousands of habitable planets for the Rebels to build their base and hide from the Empire. For some reason the pick the frozen world of Hoth.

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

This guy gets it. In theory there’s millions if not billions of planets. Plenty of places like Endor where it’s just a mild/moderate forest planet (or moon, same difference for the purpose of building a base). But nooooo let’s use a ridiculous amount of resources and infrastructure that we definitely don’t have to build a base on this cruddy frozen wasteland. Perfect 👌

[@atomicgator5207]

Arguably, that Hoth was ideal for the exact reason you mention. They figured the Empire would go searching through habitable planets for them and not waste time of frozen wastes. Unfortunately, the Rebels underestimated the Empire.

[@magnusbjrnli4363]

@@atomicgator5207 and beacuse of Probe droids they could search so many planets with out even using Stormtroopers so Thats also a reason Hoth was a Good choice even tho it was not Good enough

[@xUltimatexInstinctx]

Just think, one day there will be a video Everything Wrong With The Force Awakens!

[@sithpeg8]

+xUltimatexInstinctx 1. too much hype. 2. NOT ENOUGH HYPE

[@jbvader721]

+xUltimatexInstinctx Depends on how we see it. If it's good, we'll dread CinemaSins making the video. If it sucks, we'll be waiting impatiently for the video. December 18th is when we'll find out if "The Force Awakens" is good or not.

[@sithpeg8]

jbvader721 indeed. watching this one was a mistake for me

[@ShadowKnight275]

+jbvader721 are you serious? i will be waiting impatiently ESPECIALLY if its good.

[@starhunterterra9849]

xUltimatexInstinctx, just give 3 weeks to CinemaSins and they will take apart that forced merchandising Disney Empire attack of Nostalgia with more plot holes than maybe the whole three prequels together. Considering that Disney disregarded 30 years of some decent post or pre films novels and comics and started from scratch expect plenty of Cinema Sins on Episode VII.

[@redcardinalist]

"Cool shit for sure but how does a creature this giant survive on an asteroid with little-to-no food available?" Why, by dialing out for Chinese, obviously... ;)

[@jbvader721]

+redcardinalist Ha Robot Chicken joke.

[@redcardinalist]

jbvader721 Correct. Have a gold star that man :)

[@jaketheberge1970]

I guess it eats Mynocks? Might I add this things digestive tract is terrible. Shouldn't their be stomach acid desolving things or if their not in its stomach then why no swallowing?

[@mikailshub6861]

robot chicken? ;)

[@redcardinalist]

+Space Raven Could be :)

[@c0reftw717]

Can't believe you gave the empire strikes back more sins than the last jedi

[@mechanicpluto2430]

c0reFTW They were going to give more to The Last Jedi but they ran out of fuel

[@averyshannon9200]

@@mechanicpluto2430 , Gottem

[@iloveyourgyatttt]

c0reFTW well TLJ is a better film IMO

[@mechanicpluto2430]

@@iloveyourgyatttt I loved TLJ, but I love ESB more.

[@florianphilipps2370]

@@iloveyourgyatttt missed opportunity for a from my point of view joke smh bruh

[@wynnie_margeaux]

2:26 Cause he's freezing, was just attacked by a giant monster, and the blood is rushing to his head

[@Jammsbro1]

Don't you think that maybe, just maybe the rebels had a base on hoth long before part IV? JUSTSAYIN

[@Jammsbro1]

+Jammsbro There are no sexiest leia moments, she is hideous, then and now.

[@hanburgundy4317]

+Jammsbro Have you seen Return of the Jedi? Bam.

[@jojdivizn351]

+War Machine No, Jammsbro is right. She looks like an irritated cleaning lady.

[@FJAR1635]

Actually no. In the new Marvel Star Wars comics "Princess Leia", they search for a new base after the Battle of Yavin. This is also official canon so therefore they didn't find Echo Base on Hoth until after the destruction of the first Death Star.

[@Jammsbro1]

+FJAR1635 Yeah, when you use new comics to esplain a script from 35 years ago, you have to be dismissed. The person who wrote that probably wasn't even born when this was written.

[@StarGeek]

Even my favorite movie of all time isn't without flaws...

[@mannydanner1144]

+StarGeek youre rght theyres Nothing wrong In Empire and Cinema Sins in Acting Wierd

[@scovelme]

+Manuel Danner Do you even words? He said ISN'T without flaws.

[@mannydanner1144]

scovelme Well there is Some Problems But not Many

[@cadoba1239]

*W*hy do *Y*ou *W*rite *W*ords *L*ike *I*t's a *T*itle

[@Vernoan3]

Roll With It.

[@bobfeet573]

Take away sin 43. The reason they weren't slipping was because it was an ALL TERRAIN armoured transport

[@TheEye22]

Bingo!

[@bobfeet573]

+TheEye22 see he doesn't think he just assumes. Also does the R in AT-RT stand for recon?

[@Big_fella210]

+Bob Feet I think so

[@standard03]

It's not supposed to make sense. It's comedy. In Jeremy's own words "We're not critics. We're assholes."

[@AOMfreak300]

Dont tell him or he might pull the stick out of his ass

[@Excremental_Discharge]

When Han says "Then I'll see you in hell" What exactly is HELL in Star Wars?

[@All2Meme]

Episode Eight, The Last Jedi.

[@stevenlitak2464]

@@All2Meme Actually it's all Disney movies that claim to be Star Wars.

[@duckpeck9467]

His ship is called the Millennium Falcon... Millennium *Falcon*. They’re also speaking English??? How is that possible in another galaxy?

[@Excremental_Discharge]

@@duckpeck9467 bro, you obviously never heard of "language conventions" "different combinations of ways a writer manipulates language to show the audience something in a unique way"

[@thad1296]

The sequels. The sequels are star wars hell...

[@jackhaehl2033]

"Why does Luke's patrol perfectly coincide with the probe's arrival?" That's the whole point of a patrol.... To see enemies coming.

[@the-trustees]

And, at LEAST 2 probes landed on Hoth... who knows how many total...

[@aimz210]

I always thought that the "other" hope was Vader

[@thbzzproductions3496]

+aimz210 I though he meant that in the darkness there is always hope for the galaxy somehow

[@Th1sIsMyLegacy]

+aimz210 Isn't it?

[@thbzzproductions3496]

Yellow .Harry It was Leia.

[@biohazard724]

Nah by this point Vader is considered a lost cause. For all intents and purposes Anakin, who himself was thought to be the Chosen One is dead. Leia, powerful in the force herself was "plan C" as it were.

[@rectroeclipse2342]

The other hope is someone we don't know yet. Not Leia, not Luke...probably someone in The Force Awakens

[@redviper57]

did you know there are people who have NEVER heard of star wars...shame

[@XXLSSBBW]

+redviper57 They're called hermits.

[@aidanmcmanus7478]

+redviper57 the very thought makes me sad

[@chrisheyburn1546]

+redviper57 There are also people in my grade who think twilight and paranormal activities is better than star wars

[@redviper57]

Chris Heyburn those people need to be killed...

[@chrisheyburn1546]

If they're killed then they'll never experience how good star wars is

[@wynnie_margeaux]

8:18 He doesn't consider himself Anakin Skywalker anymore, they're referring to his past self like another person because they consider him another person

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Exactly

[@Mhats]

or it's bad writing. the Emperor could've said "wait Luke SKYWALKER?!, aren't you Anakin SKYWALKER?! you told me Padme didn't give birth, yet you liar!! anyways turn him to the Dark Side and make the Empire stronger, he is your son after all"

[@pajamas_the_emo]

@@Mhats But that would ruin the entire reveal of Anakin being Luke's father

[@Mhats]

@@pajamas_the_emo don't forget this is the same guy who wrote the prequels, if i remember correctly prequel haters say George has terrible writing, terrible execution, terrible effects, it has CGI when it should be puppets and toys. it reflects of both trilogies. or do you think nostalgia plays a role.

[@pajamas_the_emo]

@@Mhats First of all, the prequels are amazing because they're so poorly written. All the best memes came from the prequels. They're so bad that they're good. Second, I was a child when the prequels came out and wasn't really focused on how quality the script was or how crappy the CGI effects were. When you're just watching a movie to enjoy it and not focusing on all the stuff they got wrong, you tend to not care about the technical aspects. I understand why George went CGI crazy with the prequels. He had a vision that he had to compromise a lot in the originals because he didn't have the means of making the huge world he had imagined. When CGI became a thing, he saw that he could finally bring to life all of the visions in his head. It's really not his fault that early 2000s CGI sucks, he was working with what he could. Nostalgia plays a huge role in that the originals were just that: the originals. Darth Vader being Luke's father was HUGE back in the 80s because no one had seen it coming. To reveal the secret in such an unceremonious way as Palpatine saying "Luke Skywalker, son of Anakin Skywalker who, by the way, is you" would disappoint all of the fans. Just like when Kylo said "you're a Palpatine" there wasn't some huge gasp in the audience. We all knew what was coming because Disney had given away that Palpatine was going to be in the movie.

[@AnakinSkywakka]

I laughed harder than I should have at Klu Klux Trooper

[@tommyw010]

BoT_Renegade ikr I was playing star wars battlefront 2 and I thought hang on a second the snow troopers look a little like kkk members

[@tomatoman500gg9]

Me too

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

I would like your comment, but that would ruin 69 likes...

[@astoundingproducts8027]

BoT_Renegade I

[@AdamFord152]

BoT_Renegade same

[@alyssashook9322]

"Nobody just gets stabbed in this series" RIP Han

[@zemorph42]

Also Qui-Gon.

[@cubemaster6707]

Epic foreshadowing is epic

[@firenight485]

Rip qui gon

[@vincentdelia2741]

+zemorph42 stormtrooper that finn killed

[@darthvader538]

and those lame-ass jedi trying to arrest Palpatine

[@StephenLeGresley]

About this "A jedi never uses the force for attack." Force pushing, Lightsabers, Deflecting fire back so it kills your opponent, killing Sith.. And even if you say those things came about after this movie, Luke used the force to shoot torpedos into the death star at Obi-Wan's urging....

[@SPM0717]

Stephen LeGresley That's what I didn't get, but when they say "attack" I think they mean with malicious intent/for evil purposes.

[@StephenLeGresley]

Thats different though, he said "never for attack". to me that sounds extreme on the pacifist end.

[@nbriggs133]

Arguably though, all those actions are still in line with the "non-attack" creed. For example, deflecting blaster fire back onto those firing is defensive in nature, simply returning the opponents own force onto them. Or the fact that jedi consistently try to capture sith, rather than kill them. Darth maul was only killed in a moment of anger following the death of qui-gon, dooku was supposed to be captured and only was killed as part of anakin's subversion to the dark side, even palpatine was only attempted to be captured until after he had already killed most of the jedi master's. As for the luke/death star part, well not only was luke only partially conscious in his use of the force he also at that point had never gone through any formal jedi training. How was he supposed to know jedi didn't attack in that manner. That also goes to why luke is generally a bad example for that sort of formal "jedi never attack" creed because he's never more than partially trained and what training he does have is focused on the ultimate ending of the emperor. So while he "knows" the non-violent approach he never really is given a chance to practice it.

[@StephenLeGresley]

You can deflect fire back in a way that doesn't kill the opponent. And Obi-wan directly instructed him to use the force to shoot the missiles and blow up the death star killing millions. You either have a pacifist philosophy or you dont.

[@nbriggs133]

But they don't have a pacifist philosophy, there's a huge difference between "not attacking" and non-violence. The jedi are devoted to balance above all else, hence the returning of equal force unto the attacker, without worrying all that much at that point whether it results in death. Basically every time you see the jedi as aggressors its trying to disable and capture, not kill (with a certain leeway in things like the clone wars where they technically were fighting droids not sentient life). Even that death star attack is arguably just returning equal force, the death star had just blown up a planet of billions so firing missiles to destroy it just returning that violence. It's not a perfect philosophy (a major theme are jedi struggling with the dark side after all) but you have to consider how the jedi's overall dedication to balance works and how that effects the way they approach an idea of "never using the force to attack."

[@Smoothy4doctor26]

"Yoda talks about Luke to a ghost in front of Luke, and this is his way of revealing himself to actually be Yoda." Sorry guys but I think that's one sin removed ☺️

[@darthsmythe6783]

Erica Breaux he's nitpicking, if he was a fan he would of understood that yoda acting crazy and humorous was a facade to test Luke's patience.

[@StopChangingMyNameYoutube1]

Wait...if he was making brownies...and it's been three years...and minutes in ghost time is years in reality time... GHOST JEDI CAN MAKE BROWNIES IN 3 MINUTES?!

[@jessicaheeren7692]

+KZbin, All I want to do is watch a video, stop making me update. That's what I thought when he said that!

[@ATotalDork]

+KZbin, All I want to do is watch a video, stop making me update. He used the force lightning and got them done in 3 seconds be waited the rest of the 3 minutes waiting for them to cool down

[@Jamie-st6of]

+KZbin, All I want to do is watch a video, stop making me update. He did not say how many minutes in ghost time would go by for every year in living time. For all we know, he meant that 20 minutes went by every year.

[@StopChangingMyNameYoutube1]

Ean521 Normally I'm up for internet debates, but I think I'm going to let the theoretical time dilation between ghost jedi and reality in terms of the cooking of brownies alone lol.

[@sithpeg8]

+Horrors of Cerberus Force lightning is a dark side ability GOD THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR IDIOCY....... jk

[@bowser515]

An epic war shall be thought in these comments.. Best sequel ever made? I'd say so..

[@thomasphillips7921]

Godfather Part II is better, and two towers is just as good

[@Justgirlmustache]

I think so however I'm biased since I didn't like godfather or lord of the rings. However I've heard terminator 2 was good

[@bowser515]

Thomas Phillips I'd say ESB is much better than either of those. Although Aliens and Terminator 2 deserve a special mention.

[@francesco8000]

+bowser515 The fight is between: empire strikes back terminator 2 aliens the dark knight 2 of this movies are from james cameron

[@massive2341]

+bowser515 Tbh, my list of "best sequels" include X-Men DOFP, X2, T2, Tron Legacy, and Fury Road. FEED ME UR HATE.

[@CinemaSins]

A shelter?! That's kooky talk. Next you're going to tell me there's no gravity in space, right? :)

[@edwardkenway2044]

hi

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[@lieutenantnomad9198]

WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!!!! YOU DIDN'T SAY "scene dose not contain a lap dance" AT THE PART WHEN PRINCES LEIA LANDED ON HAN'S LAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Ding"!

[@Irregular4.2]

+CinemaSins helter skelters shelter

[@Peaceful_Gojira]

+CinemaSins Heh....you're mic overloaded in the beginning....tis ok...we forgive you...I do at least.... ...(*DING!*)

[@Protectionwitnes321]

Why is he talking like he’s tryin not to wake up the house

[@Mhats]

maybe he doesn't

[@andrewjones9547]

thats how jeremy talks in all is videos

[@thewhismurdoesthings735]

Actually, Yoda is over 900 years old.

[@dusty430]

+WhismurDuzThings No Yoda is not over 900 years old... Look up his age, before he died his age was 874. So close to 900 lol.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

+Renee “sharpiiee” Narnia Yoda rounded up. Only a sith deals in absolutes... lol.

[@dusty430]

No when he died he was 874... I looked it up.

[@marcuskaiser4770]

+The Marlow Facts Show At the start of the Clone Wars Anakin was 19, at the end he was 21. The Empire Strikes Back takes place 22 years after the Clone Wars ended, so he was 43. There was never an official age given for Yoda, however a commercial for Attack of the Clones gave his age at the time as 874, though his age has never been specified in canon.

[@GuitarGod3711]

He trained Jedi for 800 years, and lived to be damn near 900. Even Yoda had to have a master

[@urryclarkfilm]

The snow speeder goes up and down over the hills because it can only fly at a certain height

[@kiharapata]

Exactly!

[@Underworlder5]

+UrryClarkAnimation that explains a lot of my deaths in lego star wars...

[@zaril21]

Star Wars Battlefront disagrees.

[@evanramstad1583]

Screw flight physics the game is still irrelevant.

[@FC-ts6fx]

Really? In LEGO Star Wars 2 you could beat a space battle level with that

[@househeisenberg6926]

Two major sins you didn't address: 1.) Out of all the places Luke could've landed on a planet he landed in the exact swamp in the exact location of Yoda. 2.) How did he know where Leia and Han were

[@Jackofspades180]

+HouseHeisenberg Explanation 1.) The Force 2.) The Force

[@godcyric]

+J4ck0f5p4d3s Dont remember in which books exaclty but: 1.) Yoda is the one that took control of Luke's X-wing, *gently* crashing it near his house. 2.) Luke and Leia are twins, connected by the force. Luke felt Leia in grave danger, hence why he had to leave so suddenly.

[@Jackofspades180]

max appleseed Naw dawg. The force.

[@Loremastrful]

+max appleseed Did e feel it when Han slid his tongue down Leia's throat?

[@godcyric]

+Rahsaan Footman If she liked it a whole bunch, probably yes. (Which could be awkward in the falcon)

[@NominalOrbit]

7:43 Actually i'll say this, I'm sure the reason Obi-Wan and Yoda act as if they aren't themselves at first is to be sure they aren't being tricked by the Empire to come out of hiding so they can be killed by them. Just a thought.

[@Modie]

I mean, Obi-Wan knew Luke from the beginning, even if we exclude the prequels. How should they trick him? Same for Yoda, who was talking to Obi-Wans ghost. It is just a cheap way for subversion, but back then these subversion moments weren't seen as problematic as today for some reason. I mean, just take the "I am your father." line which is so iconic despite just being a moment to shock the audience (well, it gives the protagonist an additional part in the drama of the story, but I think you get what I mean). And while I can see why people would criticise newer movies for the things they criticise, I don't really understand why they love them in the old ones. I mean, I loved these moments back when I was a kid and saw the movies for the first time. But I think it would be similar with the new movies as well.

[@Mhats]

or it's terrible writing, terrible execution and terrible story telling, i mean this is from the same guy who made the prequels. nothing but CGI when it should be puppets and toys.

[@mickeywonders3764]

MadHatterx sure the cgi wasn’t the best but when does “puppets and toys” make a good movie? There’s a good reason as to why they didn’t reveal themselves first. Yoda knew who luke was cuz obi wan told him to train luke when he got there but before he did he wanted to see what kind of person luke really was so acting as someone random he encountered would’ve gotten a good sense of what kind of person he is and if he can be trained. Then with obi wan first of all he knew luke but couldn’t outright tell him everything all tho years he was growing because Luke’s aunt and uncle forbid obi wan from training him. Then when he could he didn’t want Luke to potentially to turn the dark side to be with his father so he told him the story in a different way which would leave luke wanting to defeat the empire rather than join. And when told he owned R2 he wasn’t lying, he never owned him because R2 belonged to Anakin but in some comics it was revealed he acknowledged R2 in the falcon for a sec but obviously didn’t want to let anyone know about his past.

[@alexreilly6121]

@@mickeywonders3764 ive said it before but man you fuckers will do anything to defend bad writing wont you

[@mickeywonders3764]

@@alexreilly6121 LMAOOO bro read the comics and listen to some behind the scenes with what George was trying to do with the set up, all of it is true, there’s no need to defend anything when it’s straight facts. The whole point of yoda switching from crazy random dude to master yoda was to test Luke’s character cuz if Luke were to find out that’s yoda the great master then he’d obviously give him respect but yoda wanted to see his true colors first, a lot of film take this troupe because it’s effective in story telling such as in Star Wars. You can’t be this ignorant to hate the fact that George thought this out just cuz you don’t like the prequels

[@GameLibrarianWithABear]

No one just gets stabbed in this series, huh? Tell it to Solo.

[@Yeet-yj9lw]

Spoilers much?

[@GameLibrarianWithABear]

Movie's been out over a month. Anyone who cared should have seen it already.

[@Cosmalano]

+Mario in Disguise that's such shit logic man

[@GameLibrarianWithABear]

Look, I'm just trying to defend my side.

[@AtopLeap]

+Mario in Disguise I used to live in Spain, where I could only watch films in Spanish, so I had to wait for the movies to come out on DVD before I could enjoy them. Some people are too busy and have not yet had the time to watch it, since a lot of people, especially in this economy, will be too busy working as hard as they possibly can to watch a film. You do not watch a movie in the womb. Some people just have not seen it yet because infants rarely go to the cinema, so of course they have to watch it when they get older, by which time you and many others would have spoiled it for them, ruining an experience that lots of people have treasured in their memories their whole lives. Some people just do not care about watching Star Wars, but may care one day in the future, at which point you have already spoiled it to them, reducing their likelyhood of actually watching it at all because they feel they know what happens. In regards to those last two points, when you already know the plot and big twists in a film before you have seen it, then why bother to watch it at all? It takes very little effort to put a "FORCE AWAKENS SPOILER WARNING" in your comment.

[@kHyXD]

I'm early let me think of a joke... Psn and XB1 servers crashed... Better bring out the ambulance, Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U

[@arielvanmoos7583]

nice one. i really like it.

[@tjtji99]

Dankest most original meme my friend

[@lexminecraftboy]

*cough* PC master race *cough* *cough*

[@TheJ33s3]

+Josh Kappa nobody liked the nazis and nobody likes you either

[@josemarques2304]

+TheJ33s3 The Nazis liked the Nazis.

[@christapia826]

Vader shows Han Episode 2 at 13:29

[@maskedhylian6674]

I would do the same thing

[@shadowofares3405]

16:04 A prequel TO the prequels gets announced

[@DamBaker95]

+Chris Tapia your comment has way to few likes hahahahaa i'm dying

[@eileene3162]

Me looking back at my life like

[@MrSheed92]

You just won the Internet with that comment! As a reward, I'll mail you a pizza roll!

[@n3v3rg01ngback]

Them seagulls gonna come, poke me in the coconut. And they did.

[@graymyers]

So... RoJ is next week so what is the week Force Awakens comes out??? Holiday Special? :D

[@britedit7552]

+Grayson Myers EPISODE 1. THE BEGINNING OF THE END!

[@mattlego6257]

+Grayson Myers every single starwars movie in a row

+Grayson Myers The Clone Wars pilot movie.

[@Xyruk]

+Grayson Myers Wouldn't RoJ be Thursday? Then Episode 1 next Tuesday and so on?

[@dr.tre90]

+Grayson Myers that would be The Awesomest Ever

[@blackcobra1981]

Darth Vader knew Luke was his son in Empire Strikes Back but been in the same room with Leia multiple times in New Hope and Empire Strikes Back and didn't know she was his daughter lol

[@devingiannini2077]

...well I feel like his last name might have been a hint

[@blackcobra1981]

+Devin Giannini Darth Vader find out Luke was his don my the force not by his last name

[@blackcobra1981]

+Devin Giannini same way he find out about Leia in Return of the Jedi

[@devingiannini2077]

+blackcobra1981 ...when does anyone indicate that he discovered Luke through the force? (Considering he asks Luke to help him double cross the emperor I'm assuming Vader wouldn't have been straight up with him about what he knew) Sure, he can sense Luke, but technically anyone who is a strong force user can feel the presence of nearby people... Vader didn't know he had 2 children so he wouldn't have been trying to use the force to search for a second kid... he only is able to tell about Leia by provoking Luke until he can read his feelings... and that would have only worked in Return anyway b/c Luke didn't know about Leia yet either... I personally would think that in A New Hope when your former master shows up with a kid who is the exact same age as your (previously presumed dead) son and has the same last name as you that maybe you might put 2 and 2 together...

[@angelwhispers2060]

how Force sensitivity is originally represented in Star wars Anikin Skywalker (force user) ...... Luke and Leia's mom (not force user) Luke male (force user) Leia female (not Force user like mom) SPOILER ALERT: Re-con from the pit of darkness ....cough.. thanks a lot Disney ..cough According to the new cannon book Bloodline Leia used the Sh*t out of the Darkside to not tell Vader anything while being interrogated. Her Hate for Vader kept her going at alot of points in the Rebellion according to the book. Even saying that killing Jabba she used the Darkside. Which is totally dumb because she has a wall for leverage a big freaking chain and a Shyt load of Adrenalin. Was she kinda feeling vengful for him putting her in that humilating out fit... Probubly. Not like anyone could blame her after that totally creepy tongue slerp from him when she is first brought in wearing the gold bikini. It was always so much cooler to me when Leia kills old Slug of Nasty for treating her like sh*t. No use of the Force, no existential moral dilemma. why couldn't Disney have made the way the Force gets passed down more confusing and realistic Be like *shrug* what Force ability Leia has is limited and she never really trained with it that much cause she didn't need to . It kinda skipped her with no clear reason why.... Yah know like real genetics that we don't totally understand yet so Ben Solo being born with it would be more like...Well bonus that is cool. which makes it that much more devastating when he becomes evil

[@paperbullet1945]

Just glad Kevin Smith isn't in this one. The Jar Jar of CinemaSins.

[@dazzatv9571]

yh

[@firstnamelastname5596]

Me sa think you my new homey

[@horchatavulpesmedia650]

+Ben LaCloche jar jar would say pollo, me bombad pollo.

[@gustavogonzalez8848]

EVERYTHING NEW SUCKS

[@florboggiano1140]

The empire protec The empire attac But most importantly, The empire strikes back

[@kapelski104]

Why would you sin the "I'm your father" line?!?

[@ShamrockParticle]

In the context of the remash edition, Palpatine foreshadows and blows it when telling Anakin Vader about it. In the 1980 original, it was a big deal. After fiddling for the new version, the version CinemaSins reviewed because the remastered is said to be the only "canonical" one...

[@everybodylovesraymond8839]

@@ShamrockParticle Even if the Emperor's exposition about Anakin Skywalker was there in 1980 we didn't know that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker at that time... so it does not spoil the reveal The Sin is not valid in my opinion. Take 10 sins off!!!!

[@stevenpina1983]

Cause cinemasins sucks

[@bluepearl_22]

@@everybodylovesraymond8839 Obi-Wan's ambigous statements about Luke's father as well as Yoda palying along with it is clearly meant as a cheap way to subverd the audience's expectations. There is no rational explanation for why he would do that. Obi-Wan's lame ass excuse in episode 6 makes it even more dumb. It doesn't ruin the movie for me but it will always be a cheap move imo.

[@mobidik7386]

Austin King your fucking delusional

[@brucedacynic704]

4:41 How was Vader talking, inhaling, and exhaling all at the same time?

[@valtteriluoma-aho]

You don't breath while you talk? His suit just makes it very loud.

[@bwcmakro]

He does that all the time. Pretty sure the actual explanation is some technical mumbo-jumbo about his breathing being basically entirely artificial.

[@DraculaCronqvist]

It's explained in supplementary material that his entire breathing is regulated artificially. As such, he can talk while breathing. Kind of has to, really.

[@ThunderJuice]

The iconic Vader breath is his respiratory machine pumping, not him actually breathing.

[@SpecialEDy]

Sin 30 is false, Han says he is setting up shelter.

[@randomdams9179]

5:17 number 43 is also false. They have tows and harpons for events much like the one we see in the movie, you think they would have never fought one of these before. Also if you do the whole "if they have done this before why would they repeat the orders". Then you would be happy to know that even if the operation has been done before it is good to make sure everyone is on the same page and doing the same thing. Also you are supposed to give orders before a battle even if what they will be is obvious.

[@SpecialEDy]

@@randomdams9179 How about "that armor's too thick for blasters" Then they shoot them in the same armor once they've fallen and NOW they blow up.

[@randomdams9179]

@@SpecialEDy the event you narrated here is classified as a sin.

[@malikyobu]

The armor at the top of the AT-AT is probably thinner , just like with real life armored vehicles. When the AT-AT fell over, that's where the snowspeeder shot at.

[@russellvitranoiii3504]

Also I think I have an answer for your question around 15:15. Vader assumed that Obi-Wan had trained Luke, because in A New Hope, Obi-Wan had brought Luke to the ship to rescue Leia. Hell, Vader killed Obi-Wan himself. So how would Vader _not_ assume Obi-Wan had trained him? Vader also had no real reason to believe that Obi-Wan and Luke had just met and started training with each other for less than a week; they could have been training for quite some time. Luke could just have been a mediocre student.

[@m.c.martin]

"Covering a robots mouth prevents it from talking," Or it's in C3PO's programming to interoperate it as "Stop Talking" or "You can't speak doing this" as if he is to respond like a human

[@Zach-Fetters]

Or, it's not.

[@bookerjones8123]

@@Zach-Fetters It's actually a pretty interesting and credible explanation, but reading stuff into movies that is nowhere conveyed IN the movie is something only film students gabbing in the college cafeteria should do.

[@Majin_Koolaid]

C3PO is a protocol Droid that knows hundreds if not thousands of spoken and unspoken languages, I'm sure he knows what a hand on your mouth while speaking means

[@paulgibbons2320]

That was a tongue in cheek joke by Han Solo who has zero respect for droids. That totally was intended as a visual gag an not really a movie sin. Because we like those. Probably Harrison Fords idea. I'd bet the millennium Falcon on it!!

[@rithrius5384]

@@Majin_Koolaid C3PO is familiar with 6 million forms of communication, as said in ANH.

[@Voyhkah]

13:19 The falcon is going at sub-light speed because the hyperdrive doesn't work, so it probably takes around 8 years to get there. Han, Leia and Chewie don't run out of supplies because relativity, and this is why Luke has time to train for so long. Vader can set up the ambush because he had YEARS advance warning about this. That's also why by the end of the movie, the rebels have this huge fleet assembled, while at the beginning they have their asses handed to them at Hoth. They've had years to rebuild.

[@Voyhkah]

+Joshua Evans-Lowell In fact, that's five or six sins right there.

[@whiterabbit75]

+mAtt I wouldn't say "galaxies" since all this takes place in a single galaxy. That being said, if there is FTL travel, why would FTL communication be impossible?

[@greerjones9472]

+whiterabbit75 Tele-communication is FTL. Being that radio, cellphone, tele- whatever are made up of light waves.....so yeah... Still gregariously slow considering the size of an average galaxy/

[@chaos_omega]

Not FTL just L.

[@whiterabbit75]

Greer Jones Just an FYI; FTL means faster than light.

[@Rmcrace2319]

Seriously no sins removed for "I am your father"?

[@NormasWitnesses]

I know, right? It is one of the most iconic lines of all time! James Earl Jone's commanding voice brought it and these movies to legend. (Now if we could appreciate David Prowse more.)

[@kimberlykrapohl3238]

It could have been better, also their assholes.

[@mdm5216]

"Obi-Wan killed you father." Was in the original script I believe. Only Jones and Hamel knew what was really being said.

[@kimberlykrapohl3238]

Was there a Directors Cut of this movie, I felt like the lines where better than what's presented in this video?

[@thebystander1636]

@@mdm5216I don't believe Hamel knew either, hence the over acting NOooOooOo oooh. (He wasn't prepared for the line imo)

[@KelticTim]

Holy shit, Leia fully created the standard, fall/autumn, Becky uniform in the beginning of this. All she’s missing is a pumpkin spice latte

[@banjod9842]

I love when sims get removed. It makes me smile.

[@kingonduty2825]

You will love CinemaWins.

[@thesprawl2361]

Aren't you meant to keep sims alive for as long as possible? I know they're annoying but keeping them alive _is_ the premise of the game.

[@nolanc9432]

I hate when the Sims get removed!! The objective is to keep them alive!!

[@ingriddubbel8468]

Its sins not sims.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@@ingriddubbel8468 r/woosh Aka ur an idiot

[@xanderellem3646]

how did vader take the quick and easy path? he trained anf fought hard for 30 years as a true jedi and only turned to the dark side out of desperation after exhausting all other possibilities, even that was only after 2 decades of constant subtle manipulation from the most cunning and devious sith for thousands of years, maybe ever and even then he only succumbed at the very last moment.

[@xanderellem3646]

Michael Ross heh thought i typed 20 but yea same deal, point is it's not like he took an easy out as soon as he could for personal power the way yoda implied he was manipulated by a master of manipulation for years. Im not saying he is faultless here but i think yoda is either being a bit of dick for shit talking him like that or george didn't care about continuity between the original and prequels.

[@j-mohunter5670]

desperation? No, he chose it out of weakness and stupidity. He knew full well it was wrong and didn't even do a Google search in the Jedi library to verify if Palpatine's of promises were total b*llshit or not. Some of the worst character development I've ever seen, and its made worse by the fact there's NOTHING in the original trilogy to support it. Corrupted by power born out of a genuine desire to unite the galaxy? Guess again- he was duped with some wild b*llshit to save his girlfriend from an imagined mortal threat.

[@1216shadow]

+Jamie Ford an imagined mortal threat he made come true by trying to stop it from happening, because of said premonition of said threat being in great detail, constantly haunting his dreams, to the point that he thought it to be true, and in turn tried to stop it, only fulfilling said premonition.

[@xanderellem3646]

Jamie Ford​​​​ clearly you've not read the books or watched the clone wars. Yes he was duped i said that but what defense does a 10 year old have against a sith lord, because that's when it started. Also he did try and do a "google search" as you put it. And of course he was desperate, he was convinced his pregnant wife was going to die unless he found a way to save her and palpatines subtle manipulations culminated in the tale of his old master darth pleagus. Offering hope to a very desprate anakin. 

[@j-mohunter5670]

All the outside material in the world doesn't justify shitty storytelling.

[@UtubeMaster30001]

The biggest problem I had with this movie is Luke jumping off as he gets away from Vader. What the fuck? What is that thing and how would he possibly know it would lead him to where it did? Can someone explain?

[@Morning_Ramen]

the force?

[@GiermoWizard]

Some say he was going suicide

[@dw1419]

+Rexon And why didn't Vader use the Force to pull Luke back up or stop him from falling, the way he used the Force to throw things at Luke earlier in their battle?

[@irishboy664]

+Rexon he was going to off himself

[@andyj.rodriguez6615]

+David Willis well a Jedi can make himself immune to other force attacks using the the force, he must remain extremely focused to do this though

[@ChanceUriahMiller]

5:38 Ku Klux stormtrooper 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@duckpeck9467]

comedy

[@brannonh7406]

I'd subtract 5 sins for every time John Williams score comes on as well as the entire Luke vs Vader battle

[@brannonh7406]

I also would've taken a sin off for han shooting at Vader

[@joshuaharris5032]

+Brannon H that was badass