Everything Wrong With Those "Historically Accurate Disney Princesses" Videos - RANT

spoiler: they're not that accurate.
featured videos:
Historically Accurate Disney Princesses ll bit.ly/1FDBkDO
This Is How Disney Princesses Should Have Really Looked ll bit.ly/2Wtt30g
Fashion Expert Fact Checks Belle from Beauty and the Beast's Costumes ll bit.ly/2MFTUX4
Rachel Boyd's Video ll bit.ly/2Kfv8v0
Claire Hummel's Art ll bit.ly/2XBZBWZ

I was originally planning to make a video with my own versions of historically accurate Disney princesses, but I feel like - because my focus is on European fashion - I need to make more research on the Eastern princesses. but it's still coming one day, stay tuned. also sending lot's of love to all the video creators whose videos I discussed! no hard feelings and I'm looking forward to your future work!

[@lillott5508]

Karolina Żebrowska I’m ready for when it comes

[@alyssamorgan9691]

I am an eager bean

[@lucase9698]

Yesss this makes me so happy

[@JasmineLajeunesse]

Karolina Żebrowska can’t wait to see that

[@Someone-hl5gr]

Ah so excited,will wait cz it'll be worth it

[@MagizardInternet]

Bold of you to assume they even hired a fashion historian.

[@starthelotus3453]

The woman they hired sounds more like just some random woman from buzzfeed.

[@lordmalal]

It's Buzzfeed, at best they just had one writer check Google image search and Wikipedia

[@brianaschmidt3509]

The one time they hired Bernadette Banner

[@Icepetal01]

Briana Schmidt Which video was she in?

[@tink6225]

@@brianaschmidt3509 which one

[@richardk.2959]

lmaoo 'felt fancy so decided to wear a crown, might delete later idk'

[@julieritchie9731]

Richard K. 😂😂😂

[@2Sparrows4aFarthing]

That was cute, loved that one! 🤗Maybe I’m just thick but I wish she’d leave some of her little asides on the screen longer. I’m an excellent reader (just ask me, I’ll tell you all about it lol) and I hate having to backtrack and stop the vid to read

[@rionka]

@@2Sparrows4aFarthing hah i was like this once too ("i wish i don't have to stop things for reading them ugh") but with my natural eagerness to READ EVERYTHING i just kind of HAVE to do it cause i NEED TO READ ALL so i actually developed myself to love when people attach useful (or any) information! cause it makes me to KNOW MORE :-) and that's lovely.

[@fuinhaamiguinha8932]

Lol

[@morley364]

The bit with AzaleasDolls at 3:29 - "this photo drawn by Azalea's Dolls is spot on-" ( IS IT?!!!!!) Also. That picture is from a dressup game. Based on fashion from the Tudors TV show. Which is often not accurate to the Tudor time period to begin with. WHY WOULD ANY OF THAT BE ACCURATE DRESS FOR SNOW WHITE-

[@PandoraKyss]

BuzzFeed - "Here's a historically accurate Belle from the 18th century." Marie-Antoinette - "Hold my guillotine."

[@avat5813]

"Hand me my guillotine"

[@MikaelaCher]

"Hold my head"

[@oonooooooooo]

She is supposed to be a villager not the freaking queen 😤

[@froggdoggs8551]

sun :3 but she married a prince, making her an aristocrat

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

Frogg doggs but that was at the end of the story. For most of the story, she was but a French peasant girl.

[@dumb8050]

Danish person : **exists** Buzzfeed:SO YOU'RE FROM GEORGIA

[@Keznen]

@S M You mean the lovechild of Buzzfeed and WatchMojo?

[@cloudsofsunset7323]

and German from Texas.😂😂😂

[@DonnaChamberson]

Keznen OOOOHHHHHH you fact checked that bitch.

[@DonnaChamberson]

S M She fact checked you, bitch

[@jojocircus9818]

Ryan Kerns uh no, @S M was the one who corrected someone in a polite way and @Keznen was making a joke...

[@bridgetjenkins9448]

Karolina: “ I’m not a fashion historian” 30 seconds later: proceeds to point out every single historical fashion inaccuracy 😂😂

[@flux.aeterna]

Bridget Jenkins any good researcher is very up front about owning what they don’t know

[@pastorjillk]

What gets me is some of these videos are so off that even you have a bit of common sense and google you can show that

[@annie-4984]

Hair? fancy Buzzfeed? wrong Tea? Spilled

[@killaquween]

Hotel? Trivago

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

@@killaquween I was waiting for this. lol

[@idk-oe7tk]

Annie Gans Pączek? *Eaten*

[@Cemetery._Lady]

Wig? Snatched

[@MoDotS]

Feeling fancy? Crown

[@lindseysquire8417]

Buzzfeed: Ariel is from Georgia Hans Christen Anderson: *Danish* Ariel: *the daughter of a Greek mythological figure*

[@nansiipii9018]

The greek mythology guy's name was posidon and her fathers name is tyson ( i think ? ) so no he's inspired by him but he is not a greek figure

[@lindseysquire8417]

@@nansiipii9018 Her father is Triton, the son of Poseidon in Greek mythology.

[@1995TheCaroline]

"Imagine someone going for a "20th century look and just mashing all of those looks together" Fashion in the 2010's: 😳

[@Kolibri71]

Nah, it's not that good..

[@erosversace2510]

The 20th century is between 1900-1999

[@1995TheCaroline]

@@erosversace2510 oh shit, you’re right

[@EspeonMistress00]

@@1995TheCaroline And yet people mindlessly liked your comment. I think they liked it thinking you were implying that the 2010s fashion is horrible.

[@1995TheCaroline]

@@EspeonMistress00 well, the 2010’s fashion _is_ horrible 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@bruh-sd8eh]

Karolina: “I’m not a professional,” Also Karolina: *proceeds to rip apart each video clip with no hesitation*

[@justabitsketchy]

And now you can begin to imagine what happens when a Polish person gets pissed off 😂😂

[@zuzanastefkova2799]

thats like those teachers saying they are not artists and then drawing whole as* Mona Lisa on whiteboard with markers

[@zero_sleep666]

@@justabitsketchy Yeah, my fathers girlfriend(now ex I think) was Polish and she. Was. Scary when she was mad lmao

[@Ikbeneennestel]

@@justabitsketchy They get taken over by the Germans and then the Sovjets?

[@frozenweevil4022]

Thug Edwardian Lady intensifies

[@Skrzacik]

I literally died at Little Mermaid taking place in Georgia

[@Artoveli]

Skrzacik I know the artist, and the voiceover in that Buzzfeed video totally misquoted her. The only mention of Georgia in her original post is to say that the TIME period is hard to pin down in the movie because: "Grimsby's wearing a Georgian getup, Ariel's pink dress with the slashed sleeves subscribes to several eras from the Renaissance to the 1840s, and Eric is... Eric." As you can see, that was a reference to the Georgian PERIOD, and neither of the two locations called Georgia. But that's Buzzfeed for ya. XD

[@Skrzacik]

@@Artoveli I feel very bad for the artist, omg :/

[@valeriavagapova]

Fun fact, this is what Ariel would actually look like in 19th century in Georgia bigenc.ru/media/2016/10/27/1235172955/8855.jpg

[@tatteredarmour]

@@Artoveli lmao i came here to say the same thing. seems like something you'd find on ShitMyStudentsWrite!!

[@Amateur_Pianist_472]

Valeria Vagapova wow so depressing. Then again many Victorian women dressed similar to that.

[@AlexJReil]

I think someone should make a movie based in the 20th and 21st centuries and purposely get everything as historically inaccurate as possible. Imagine: teenage girl comes in wearing bellbottoms and playing flappybird, argues with mother about feminist movement while it is unclear which wave of feminism is being portrayed (are they after the vote, labor equality or what?) Mother is churning butter by hand, and worried about her husband fighting in war. It is unclear whether he is in Vietnam or World War One because technologies, strategies and places from both are mentioned. The movie would be a hot mess and it would be glorious!

[@taylormomsen1495]

no

[@safirak7988]

I want this now.

[@ireneultramarine244]

anyone plz do it

[@margaritas9769]

YES!

[@velazquezarmouries]

I would love that movie to be made

[@kirakira7682]

I remember one person said Belle's outfit was inaccurate because she wasnt wearing multiple layers or a wig. Her blue dress Her peasant dress A French peasant wasn't wearing a wig or a decorated layered skirt I had to click off from the foolishness

[@novasar199]

Wait i thought you were referring to her gold dress which is true but her peasant dress? I think it's pretty accurate to the location and time 🤔 please correct me if I'm wrong 😅

[@SkulCat]

@@novasar199 yeah they were talking about someone else

[@kittykittybangbang000]

What video was this

[@fairyfarms]

"i had to click off from the foolishness" i'm using this from now on

[@56purple78]

"imagine mashing together all of the 20th century fashions" that's my wardrobe looool

[@dreamskeepmesane2729]

literally tho

[@zielonybarbarzynca8180]

big SAME

[@Mina-fl6us]

Uh SAME (but it's mostly 1980s and 1990s punk)

[@rebeccaartemisia96]

SAME

[@MariaEduarda-uc6gt]

goals

[@Artoveli]

Yikes. I know the artist who did the Little Mermaid painting, and that Buzzfeed article completely misquoted her! Her only mention of Georgia OR the 1840s in the painting's description is to say: "The Little Mermaid is hard to place from a time period standpoint- Grimsby's in a Georgian getup, Ariel's pink dress with the slashed sleeves subscribes to several eras from the Renaissance to the 1840s, and Eric is... Eric." Don't worry, she's well aware that the story takes place in Denmark, and was only referring to the Georgian PERIOD as displayed in Grimsby's outfit. XD

[@princeire7486]

Ah so Buzzfeed was doing the standard journalistic coverage of anything to do with academia..........or any sort of science, medicine, or health............ or a religion other than the journalist's own (and sometimes they obviously don't even understand their own religion)........ or really anything that requires any degree of nuance or research to understand. "I don't understand what's happening, but I'll pretend like I do very hard."

[@FrenkTheJoy]

Oh Jesus, that's embarrassing how off-based they were.

[@KasumiRINA]

Lol yeah, Georgian means first half of 1800s, king George aka Regency era, time of Jane Austen, Byron, Mary & Percy Shelley, not the state of Georgia OMG! XD How could someone confuse them, it's almost like those Americans who thought that ruski invaded them in 2008 when russian troops occupied the Caucasian country Georgia

[@SeerWalker]

Kasumi Gaming georgian means during the reign of the four king georges of england, so from 1714-1830

[@maz.s]

+

[@flowersinwonderland]

Georgia????? Georgia???? Prince Eric of GEORGIA???? I thought it was common knowledge that it was from Denmark?

[@crazyweirdgirl115]

Italy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3q5gXydnrx3i7M

[@dx.feelgood5825]

Yeah, it's a Danish story, lmao. That quote misinterpreted the artist wrong. She just meant the style of dress

[@KasumiRINA]

Do they... Actually think that Jane Austen stories take place in Georgia, USA? XD

[@saska7286]

i read this in new yorks voice bEYONCE? BEYONCE? YOU KNOW WHO YOU LOOK LIKE? LUTHER VANDROSS-

[@depgabby]

In the Disney story he’s Italian and Ariel is Greek

[@tritogenias]

nobody: buzzfeed fashion historians: *C O R E S T S.*

[@Vanellustrades]

GEORGIA????? As a Dane I am very triggered. My man H. C. Andersen deserves better

[@nikolinekoldbaek]

glad I wasn't the only one lol

[@TheRachaelLefler]

Yeah it really made me cringe as a literature fan.

[@Artoveli]

I know the artist, and the voiceover in that Buzzfeed video totally misquoted her. Her only mention of "Georgia" on her original post is to say that the TIME period is hard to place because: "Grimsby's wearing a Georgian getup, Ariel's pink dress with the slashed sleeves subscribes to several eras from the Renaissance to the 1840s, and Eric is... Eric." So, the Georgian period. Grimsby as depicted in the movie. Nothing to do with either location named Georgia. But that's Buzzfeed for ya. XD

[@Vanellustrades]

Artoveli Thats superb research

[@Niobesnuppa]

Granted, though, there's mountains and big boulders in the Little Mermaid Disney movie, so I feel like it probably isn't set in Denmark either. Maybe it could be a Danish colony or something, I dunno.

[@catola_]

*_feeling fancy, might wear a crown later idk_*

[@ulisesescorza3323]

LMFAO

[@lovingweirdo4727]

666th like 😈

[@minervamcgonagall7410]

When

[@aloe_thera]

@@minervamcgonagall7410 3:10

[@candicoated2001]

You misspelled beheaded.

[@metademetra]

"We think this is in Geogia" *remembers a line from Poor Unfortunate Souls about the Caspian Sea* I'm gonna have to disagree with you there...

[@cossaizy6309]

Sultanate of aghraba, literally baghdad in the islamic golden age Buzzfeed: hmmm 300s arabia, a time we barely know anything about arabia and the rest of arabs were hellanized

[@AugustSideling]

Myb sister just pointed that out to me yesterday so we looked it up on a map, but while it's close to the Caspian sea, it doesn't border it. It's only coastline is the black Sea. Still close enough to be touched by the winds of the Caspian though I suppose.

[@princeire7486]

@drag0nfly_girl Huh, fair enough. What was fashion like in 1840s Georgia among the upper classes? Was there a distinction in dress between Georgian elites and Russian officials?

[@princeire7486]

@@cossaizy6309 300s Arabia Wut? But there are references to Islam in a few of the songs.

[@tosinakin2508]

@@AugustSideling She referred to the Georgian fashion era, not Georgia the country. She was misquoted in that instance.

[@Macabrellian]

The fact that they sourced Claire Hummel's artwork in that video and couldn't even be arsed to spell her name correctly is... Telling. They didn't even bother to quote her correctly. Eugh.

[@yippedoodah]

They just needed to jump on the bandwagon and post something asap

[@hannamadsen]

@@maomi1852 likely not, which is really sad

[@dunkey759]

@@maomi1852 definitely not

[@tinythingy4]

People who steal art without crediting the artist should be ashamed and i hope racoons will gnaw on their feet

[@vivilonrane1330]

I'm on my way

[@celesteluna6834]

😂😂😂

[@TheRachaelLefler]

Second.

[@athenathegreatandpowerful6365]

Opossum not raccoons. Raccoons are cute. Opossum are vile, nasty, scary, unkillable monster deamons from the lower depths of hell.

[@goosegirl941]

Athena The Great and Powerful idk have you ever seen a raccoons tearing apart a baby duck 👀

[@bobheatherhill1011]

At first I thought she was saying “fashionisorian” like fashionista and historian put together

omg

[@jeremiahgabriel5709]

That sounds like some kind of fashionable dinosaur (fashionisaur). I like it.

[@FitMedic]

That's not what she said?

[@jeremiahgabriel5709]

@@FitMedic I know/ agree. And personally I didn't think it sounded like she said any of the words that Bob mentioned. BUT the words Bob used sounded fun to me and I enjoyed the idea of a fashionable dinosaur. Hopefully that makes more sense.

[@kyleerae6948]

that sounds like the name of a dinosaur breed so that’s cool

[@MariaEduarda-uc6gt]

feeling fancy might wear a crown later lmfaoooo I'm deceased who wore crowns as a meaningless accessory?? is this the middle ages or a corny quinceañera?

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

A very corny quinceañera.

[@MikaelaCher]

And the veil thing. Like of course i'm not going to wear a veil in the 14th century i don't feel fancy enough yet

[@susanaquiroz7800]

Leave my corny quinceañera out of this

[@courtney1762]

“this photo drawn by Azalia’s Dolls-” *LAUGHS IN DOLL MAKER PHASE*

[@sophie-raine1657]

oh my god literally. That was made by a random person using Azalea's maker, not by Azalea herself. I just can't get how it's so difficult to look up the artists they're using images from to check that they're crediting properly. Had they done so, they would have found her website and not wrongly credited her for an inaccurate drawing, making her look bad for not researching! But naturally googling historically accurate disney princesses is far quicker and easier than looking for ACTUAL REAL LIFE FASHION DOCUMENTATION. But I digress. After all, it's buzzfeed. 😂😂

[@stupidass69420]

OMFG AZALEA’S DOLLS WAS MY LIFE SUPPORT BACK THEN

[@vilwarin5635]

@@sophie-raine1657 yeah, I used to make Disney's princesses versions with that game, as well as many other people. It was so fun!

[@starthelotus3453]

They had the AUDACITY to shade Azalea for something she didn’t do.

[@princessmarshellaaur]

​@@vilwarin5635 i LOVED azaleas back then, but now i love using it in order make my star wars ocs for some upcoming projects.

[@wannabehamlet_]

me to me: well i better go to sleep karolina: not on my watch

[@bestia1103]

SAME

[@f1zz-k1d89]

i’m sitting in a hotel room bathroom watching this bc the bed is so uncomfortable and i can’t fall asleep 🥵🥵

[@ekartak]

Yep

[@justabitsketchy]

Omggggggggggggg, I'm Polish and instead of understanding "not on my watch" as the actual saying, after loving my whole life in England, my brain decided.... "Wtf why are you talking about your watch????" 😂😂

[@wannabehamlet_]

@@justabitsketchy lol 😂

[@lestranged]

How could they not know where the little mermaid is set? It's a Hans Christian Andersen story, not a Disney story. (All the Disney movies are adaptations, not original stories. Many are Grimms Brothers fairy tales.) Hans Christian Andersen is a Danish writer. There is a famous statue of the little mermaid in Copenhagen. This is not hard to research!

[@helleswahn]

Ikr! I was screaming inside when they said Georgia??

[@bialynia]

Same here! What makes you sure it isn't set in the 11th century? It could be anything BEFORE the time it was known to be written down, not that time exactly!

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

Yep, yep and YEP! Research is always important, and can be accessed with google or any browser sites. lol Buzzfeed don't do enough research. Then again, what can we expect from scumfeed?

[@lestranged]

@@bialynia very true since most fairy tales begin with " once upon a time", not with "last week this happened". So even at the time they were written, it was presented as something that happened long ago.

[@bialynia]

@@lestranged Also "Far away" not necessarily "in a neighbouring village" :)

[@melodyborg6164]

I'm glad you spoke about Claire Hummel's work and people not crediting her. The point of her "historically accurate Disney princesses" series was to take the princesses and ground them in a specific time/place/era, while still keeping the colours and major design elements of the characters, so obviously some liberties are taken with accuracy but the result is still a gorgeous image and an improvement (in terms of accuracy and detail) on the original designs. I feel like a lot of these videos haven't even looked at the descriptions she posted with her original art explaining her design choices. Makes me sad to see people taking her work out of context and using it without credit for their own videos :|

[@tysonbrady1609]

Marie Antoinette / Woman of the French royal court: *Exists* ( 'historically accurate' )Belle:

[@generaltechnology8250]

I think I have an extra guillotine lying around somewhere. Let me go find it...

[@zarellamoz]

@@generaltechnology8250 I found it!

[@HeavyHippis]

feeling fancy today, might wear a crown later, idk

[@zosmavideos4891]

This should be one of meme mom's merch pieces 😂

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

I have an inflatable crown. I should go put that on. lol

[@vivlings]

That sounds like an Ariana Grande Tweet

[@enidan_]

Yeah, that would be perfect on merch pieces!

[@ooTina00]

Zosma Videos that’s what I was just thinking. lol

[@Melissa-rm8tq]

'feeling fancy might wear a crown later' definitely my new instagram caption

[@teddy4400]

I just changed my tiktok bio to that lol

[@warrenlemay8134]

"Georgia in the 1840s" -Shows off a Stick Style/Queen Anne-style house, style trends that only came about AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. That style of house would have only been built during the 1870s/1880s/1890s. They need to go back to the Federal, Classical, and Greek Revival styles to get an accurate 1840s house from Georgia. They couldn't get the fashion OR architecture right.

[@treblebat]

Historical architect rage intensifies

[@annapettit8045]

Buzzfeed completely misquoted the artist which is so frustrating because it makes Claire Hummel's work look shoddy when in fact it's just buzz feed's poor journalism skills.

[@cobraqueen89]

also, Georgia the country, not the state

[@schae1298]

THANK U THANK YOU

[@nineteenfortyeight6762]

@@cobraqueen89 Nope, the time period.

[@breadsela2814]

this 'rant' was unbelievably dignified and respectful. 10/10 gangsta Edwardian Meme Mom

[@jenniferbrewer5370]

You may not consider yourself a fashion historian, but you know a lot more about historical fashion than I do.

[@wieauchimmer]

well if thats how we measure historic accuracy.....

[@NostaIgiaJunkie]

@@wieauchimmer it's not, she's just giving her some credit and recognizing her vast knowledge.

[@susabobus]

probably it's not hard to do tho

[@isabellawilson3948]

Tessa Warhol ??

[@tatiana2696]

@@wieauchimmer Way to be bitchy. Both of you.

[@i_am_elizbian]

“They used context clues to place the Little Mermaid in Georgia” ... No. No no no. The Georgian PERIOD sweetie.

[@shaquille_oatmeal6949]

Karolina: “And I haven’t eaten my breakfast~” Ad: “I’ve had to overcome emotional, stress eating...”

[@puerrax3718]

i'm from poland and........ gIRL YOU'RE A NATIONAL TREASURE

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

I'm not polish BUT I agree !

[@angelicaann8025]

@@sarroumarbeu6810 lol same im not Polish nor European, but shes not just a National treasure in Poland but also an INTERNATIONAL TREASURE!

[@isda3314]

Im Asian but my friend even learned Polish for her

[@incanusolorin2607]

@@isda3314 LOL I love that he didn’t even learn because of her, but FOR her hahaha. Give your friend a hug for me, because that really made me laugh

[@seamusruuth]

someone: makes a somewhat researched fashion video... karolina: hold my stays edit: thanks for liking?

[@--..__]

hold my stays*

[@AppleSlicesUnite]

Karolina: hold my stays.

[@tigrefuego3916]

The best!

[@FireFairy1994]

"Imagine someone going for 20th century look and mashing all those looks together" WELL HERE'S AN AMAZING VIDEO IDEA

[@astrologia9266]

Videoclip Narrator: The Little Mermaid is set in Georgia-- *Hans Christian Andersen would like to know your location*

[@MaxMallard]

Gonna guess not Georgia

[@hussainvirk8598]

Professor Quack Hans Christian Anderson was danish so yea not Georgia

[@SM-qv2om]

Hans Christian Andersen: *weeps dramatically in Charles Dickens front yard*

[@somebodyfromkharkiv5412]

Ah yes, the famous Danish city of Batumi

[@generaltechnology8250]

The Danish Kingdom would like to know your location

[@YiPeaches]

Wait did you just assemble a twentieth century look for yourself for this video, miss neon earrings red lipstick and extravagant updo

[@emmytweetie2177]

T w e n t i e t h c e n t u r y 4:43

[@HomeWithMyBookshelf]

Hahaha, yeeeeeesssss

[@6thgraderfriends]

Is that what she's wearing? I looked at it and was like, "It looks old fashioned but I can't place the decade..." so that's why.

[@clod8]

Countries To Go 1940’s. Victory Rolls hairstyle. Dunno about those neon plastic earrings...1980’s neon plastic earrings were usually button earrings or occasionally “door knockers” but not pirate hoops like these.

[@anon3263]

@@6thgraderfriends the 80s did a throwback to the 40s at some point so that's what it reminds me of! I have a beautiful romper from the 80s with a 40s cut, but the print is definitely something out of the 80s.

[@rhys12435]

Whatever video shes sourcing these clips from really did claire hummel dirty

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

True. Oof.

[@Artoveli]

Seriously!

[@anglerfish4161]

I decided to double check after that excerpt because, while Claire Hummel did state her costumes were supposed to be 'closer' to reality, not perfectly accurate, her placing Little Mermaid in 1840's Georgia was a "huh???" moment. It is simply not what she says in the description of the picture. She says the inspiration for the movie looks is scattered: there's a minor character with a Georgian set up, the slashed sleeves are present in many eras /including/ the 1840's. She simply made a choice to go with 1890's because of the leg-o-mutton sleeves. She doesn't even give a guess of when the movie is set. It irks me because they sourced her art but didn't even bother to read one tiny paragraph properly before they put words in her mouth, making her sound like a fool. What a shoddy work.

[@Qija1]

Cries in Danish when looking at Ariel who I grew up knowing as a blonde mermaid named Sirene🤧

[@gemmaweber4115]

Interesting that her name was Sirene! Interesting because in Polish, we have a very similar myth to the Little Mermaid called Rusalka, but a mermaid translates to Syrena/Syrenka (very close to Sirene). Call me weird but I find it charming when I seen European fairy tales converge on some details and trying to speculate why 🤪

[@yokoboo]

Also they're straight up misquoting Claire Hummel! She doesn't mention anywhere in the original posting of the image that Ariel's dress is supposed to be from Georgia. She talks about the silhouette of the wedding dress and how that's what she used to design the dress in the image, going for a 1980s style because giant poofy sleeves.

[@spectralballadeer1255]

That Belle video annoyed me so much when she said corset instead of stays

[@nope6021]

Most people have no idea what a "stays" is. They'd have to explain it a lot more.

[@spectralballadeer1255]

@@nope6021 No they wouldn't because they show them drawing each garment as they go along. You can clearly see stays are not the same thing

[@BadBoysGirl2099]

What annoyed me was they could have taken the five to ten seconds to just mention that during that time period they were called stays. Didn't even have to get any more detailed than that.

[@Schuldig]

that would set fashion historians' blood boiling

[@talosheeg]

I watched it this morning. I'm still angry

[@jennymaharshak5723]

Actually, I don't think it is that interesting to talk about whether Disney princesses are historically accurate (everybody knows Disney people didn't know anything about anything, and especially about anything outside of US), but I would love some fashion historian's insight in how the princesses match the era the movie was made. For instance, Snow-white has that distinct 30-s noir thing going on, and Cinderella is a Grace Kelly. Could you please please please make a video about that?

yes, that's actually interesting too! how fashions from the time affected the way the princesses look

I was thinking abut that too, especially the "older" princesses - Snow White, Cinderella and Aurora.

[@LDrosophila]

Oh that's an excellent point! I wonder if you look at say more modern princesses do they look like the decade they were made? If you think about it Ariel does kind of have that 90's high hair *1989 Cindy Crawford supermodel hair

[@cocosam96]

@@LDrosophila Of more modern princesses mirroring modern fashion, I think Elsa is the best example - her dresses scream Ellie Saab and her braid! That sort of braid was (still sort of is) a dime a dozen in the years leading up to frozen

[@picassomanu185]

There are several articles on that subject on Frockflicks, I think.

[@Becuziamawesome]

Fashion Historians: Historical Researchers: Karolina, cackling in Edwardian: *_THE FAMOUS 1840’S S-BEND SILHOUETTE_*

[@she7061]

The Little Mermaid: “Fashion Historians” on Buzzfeed: is this Georgia in the 1840’s????

[@cossaizy6309]

Me, an intellectual: which Georgia?

[@jaded8578]

thetalko, not buzzfeed

[@Jonniz2000]

The same video that thought that The Little Mermaid was taking place I Georgia also discusses Frozen and tried to seem knowledgeable and mention some “special” clothing item names in Norwegian. They mention words like “strumpor” and “skjorta” and make them seem like they’re particular clothing items but turns out they’re literally just saying socks and shirt. Very researched lmao

[@Artoveli]

Jonna Yeah, I know the artist who did the Little Mermaid painting, and the Buzzfeed video completely misquoted her. She's well aware that the story takes place in Denmark, and didn't even go with 1840 as the time period. Clearly they just glanced at her painting description looking for numbers and capitalized words, without actually bothering to read. XD

[@fran-ow4iq]

Karolina's earrings look likes the bracelet i stole from a classmate in 1st grade

[@rapidswelsa3306]

Did she ever find out lol

[@coffeepowered6033]

She will if she sees this comment lol

[@mirandathepandakitty1630]

Or like the things they put under the cap of milk jugs

[@starz4220]

@Cheyenne Archambeault oop-

[@thereselundgren7304]

*kiwi*

[@LilyMaidenLove]

I can't wait for the Disney Princess who has a 1980s perm, a 1950s tea dress, Gogo boots, a sports jacket and a cloche hat Absolute style icon right there and 100% accurate to the 20th century

[@isabellalouise212]

“...to place the story in 18th Century Georgia.” me: *insert the ‘why, why, whyyy’ vine*

[@idk-oe7tk]

Cut: **Makes 'HiStOrIcAlLy AcCuRaTe' video** Meme Mom: *_Hold my tea and Memes_*

false. the pączek would have been eaten the moment it's bought

[@idk-oe7tk]

Karolina Żebrowska Mhm 😂

[@idk-oe7tk]

Why did they get rid of the crossed out word things

[@popsiclelatte092]

@ yes

[@arkroogs90]

I lost it at the Spice Girls. Memes on point tonight!

[@julijakeit]

Why? It's the 20th century look! Buzzfeed isn't a lazy clickbait site that projects their narrow and/or lazy minded googling they like to disguise as a 'research'. if you wanna be my lover, you've got to do some 'search'.

[@Frank-ju8qr]

Oh look! It is the *lady* looking for her *cat.* She looks *distraught.*

[@elliesteeves1591]

Yes, of course. Eric, the coastal prince of Georgia. I remember this so well!

[@goosegirl941]

I NEED “MIGHT WEAR A CROWN LATER IDK” MERCH! IM SHOUTING!!

[@celiahache]

Some of these historically accurate videos are obviously not well researched but have then high production values (hiring models, lights, the shots) that it feels so frustrating. Talking about historical accuracy, have you watched Gentleman Jack? It features some solid 1830's fashion and it shows they were trying to be as true to the fashion as possible. (It's also a very good show). The intro theme shows the main character getting dressed and you can see her putting on a corset (over a shift!) and adding the busk to the front. Really recommend it!

[@silverjade10]

I love the costumes and the costumimg featurettes on Outlander. they work so hard at being historically accurate and it's lovely!

[@JustSaralius]

Did you know that Gentleman Jack was a real person and that the story is based on her diaries, which she wrote in code? She wrote very explicitly about her sexual encounters and relationships with other women and was quite open about her homosexuality. She even got married to a woman (in church!) and they lived together as sort of husband and wife. Not sure if she was really a transgender male, but she was nicknamed "Gentleman Jack" because she wore male clothes and acted quite like a man. Very fascinating person either way and I'm glad their story is getting told! ^^

[@ctfangirl]

That show is so accurate the corset/stays actually give the actress gas just like if she was living back then (seriously she jokes about it in interviews)

[@Qrtuop]

@@JustSaralius no she was NOT transgender, stop erasing lesbian history, shame on you.

[@AskForDoodles]

It's especially hard to figure out what 'commoners' were wearing at the time, because usually only the rich or royal could afford to have paintings made. And even then it was such an occasion that they'd dress up up even fancier so they'd look as impressive as possible for future generations to see. And so these are the most commonly accessible reference pics. Highly staged and only showing the 1%. It's like guessing an entire generation's fashion zeitgeist by one billionaire, instagrammer's pics.

[@alienboygirl7455]

buzzfeed: **gEOrGiA iN ThE 1840s** me as a dane who loves history and literature: [visible confusion]

[@haematomanic]

“artist claire hummel placed the story in georgia in the 1840s” boy if they actually read the caption on her ariel piece in that series they would know it was inspired by 1890s fashion and i have no idea where that random setting came from 🙃

[@welp4576]

Misquoted. She was commenting on how it was hard to find when due to the “Georgian era getup” (somewhere in the 18th and 19th centuries) and other stuff from different time periods

[@richardk.2959]

*GEORGIA IN THE 1840s?*

[@OddlyElly]

I know right?

[@martamork5858]

Exactly. HOW did she come to that conclusion? I think she was confusing it with Gone with the Wind (and then even that actually takes place in the 1860s).

[@mariblue72]

Well, I mean, the accents were a dead giveaway. /sarcasm (... just in case)

[@erinmoriarty2809]

I spit my tea out I laughed so hard at Georgia

[@JB-vd8bi]

Georgia is also the name of a country. Perhaps that is what BuzzFeed confused? It's BuzzFeed though so....

[@theangrypotato1525]

Ah yes, the famous 1840s pRiNcE eRiC oF gEoRgIa

[@johnbainivanua2566]

Honestly a 70s disney princess NEEDS to happen

[@DebbieGarciaa]

as an illustrator myself, I get so angry when big companies that should know better just steal an artist's artwork to use in their videos, oof...

[@bunnyincloudrecesses9590]

Disney obviously take a lot of liberties and are influenced by the times that the films were actually made. Do they even attempt to get their films historically accurate? But the KZbin videos are another matter. "Let's explain inaccuracies with more inaccuracies..." 🤦‍♀️

[@TheRachaelLefler]

One thing I think is cool about the history of animation is to see how the characters, regardless of setting, will always show some influence of the fashions of the time and place of their creation. Like how 80s anime characters have big 80s hair. Or how Cinderella clearly looks like she's going to a prom int he 1950s more than to a royal ball in the (unspecified time period) middle ages.

[@NIHIL_EGO]

@@TheRachaelLefler Cinderella is more renaissance era tho.

[@johanna2690]

@@TheRachaelLefler I also think that about the old Hollywood movies that played in past eras. For example Cleopatra with Liz Taylor. You clearly see the influence of the 60s in her hair and makeup

[@Moonlitwatersofaqua]

Disney cares more about designing a character that the audience will find pleasing. Which is a better route to go then trying to be historically accurate. Elsa's coronation dress isn't very accurate to what a real queen getting coronated would wear. The dress is far too simple. but its design is clearly symbolic in nature. It looks constricting and stiff because that's how Elsa feels. And that symbolism is more powerful than making something super historically accurate.

[@Naharu.]

@@TheRachaelLefler honestly, l think cinderella always had a more 1870s/1880s vibe to it. Idk, thats where l always placed it.

[@irongirltoni]

BuzzFeed: this is *ACTUALLY* what Disney Princesses should look like Karolina: *that is not correct*

[@MminaMaclang]

Youre now officially the Brad Mondo of fashion history and period costuming

[@sunb5738]

What even are the clues in the Little Mermaid that say it's happening in Georgia? It's like saying Moana is from Alabama x) Her art is really nice tho :3

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

Right? lol

[@rebeccaandresen3829]

My poor national pride took a hard hit right there

[@jamesdante1576]

i think they meant the eastern european country georgia, not the state. (although either way, they were wrong.)

[@Artoveli]

Unruly Crow I know the artist, and the voiceover in that Buzzfeed video totally misquoted her. The only mention of Georgia in her original post is to say that the TIME period is hard to pin down in the movie because: "Grimsby's wearing a Georgian getup, Ariel's pink dress with the slashed sleeves subscribes to several eras from the Renaissance to the 1840s, and Eric is... Eric." It was a reference to the Georgian PERIOD as evidenced by Grimsby's costume, and neither of the two locations called Georgia. Don't worry, she's well aware that it takes place in Denmark. That's just Buzzfeed for ya! XD

[@jamesdante1576]

@@Artoveli that makes so much more sense,, thank you for mentioning that-

[@scarylion1roar]

Especially since the "photo drawn by Azalea's Dolls" is probably what someone else made with the doll maker.

[@harleymoone]

scarylion.roar Yeah, that's definitely an online doll maker. My little sister was obsessed with that particular one for a while. It's not even a Disney themed one, it's supposed to be modelled after the Tudor period.

[@scarlett6015]

SOMEONE ACTUALLY USED AN AZAELEASDOLLS IMAGE, I CAN'T

[@dielicagold]

Title says "Historically Accurate." Video features literal halloween costumes.

[@unrulycrow6299]

The Little Mermaid: is a Danish story Producer: G E O R G I A I N T H E 1 8 4 0'S And yeah YT suggested me the first video (the one with the really cool music) like 10 days ago and without being an expert at all, I was like "HMMMMMM 😟"

[@Artoveli]

Unruly Crow I know the artist, and the voiceover in that Buzzfeed video totally misquoted her. The only mention of Georgia in her original post is to say that the TIME period is hard to pin down in the movie because: "Grimsby's wearing a Georgian getup, Ariel's pink dress with the slashed sleeves subscribes to several eras from the Renaissance to the 1840s, and Eric is... Eric." It was a reference to the Georgian PERIOD as evidenced by Grimsby's costume, and neither of the two locations called Georgia. Don't worry, she's well aware that it takes place in Denmark. That's just Buzzfeed for ya! XD

[@unrulycrow6299]

@@Artoveli Thanks for giving more context, because I was really skeptical haha poor artist getting horribly misquoted. Buzzfeed gotta Buzzfeed I guess.

[@autumnramble]

And? Disney's Nutcracker was moves to London for example.

[@corrischaible4152]

✨Meme mom says: whatcha know about sleep it’s historically accurate Princess time✨

[@floofzykitty5072]

It's kind of crazy how throughout not even half our lives we go through so many different fashion crazes yet we constantly diminish fashion periods down to entire centuries

[@danielmendoza-perez2479]

Buzzfeed: exists Karolina: exists Me: Destroy them

[@MattieAMiller]

I remember seeing Claire Hummel's art a few years ago. It's so good! It's actually well researched and pretty accurate, but apparently those videos couldn't even accurately describe them. 1840's? ... wow.

[@rhea933]

Claire Hummel herself wrote descriptions of why she made each design choice for her historical princesses

[@Wolfina1]

I'm sure the people at Buzzfeed would make amazing videos if they weren't "incentivised" (forced) to pump out videos as fast as possible. In other words, next to no time for proper research

[@bleh1569]

Yeah some of their videos are funny (that's rare but there is still potential)

[@ThatCrazyBookWyrm]

I'm pretty sure the photo drawn by Azalea's Dolls is actually something made on dollsdivine (a website that hosts dress up games). Azalea's Dolls is the artist and creator of the game used, but the picture shown is a creation by someone using the game. And yes, some people have made some insanely talented things with dollsdivine games (especially if there's a drag and drop section, you'd be amazed at the level of creativity and straight up artistry these people use) but that's still someone working within the parameters of a dress up game. It's a beautiful and well designed game, but it's not someone who set out to create a perfectly historically accurate version of the princess from scratch. WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE RIGHT and I'll be checking out Rachel Boyd's video asap

[@owlislike]

The " dumbing it down for a wide audience" drives me inssaaaane. You can be accurate without talking for hours. It also reminds me of travesties like" Memoirs of a Geisha" that first off was totally fine with mashing every Asian nationality together as if they were the same, but also thought traditional Maiko and Geisha makeup was " too out there" for general audiences...despite it being one of the most iconic and easily recognized cultural looks since forever.

[@edienandy]

I don’t think the traditional geiko and maiko makeup and hair were too out there for the filmmakers, I think the just didn’t find the traditional look appealing enough. I vaguely recall them saying something about how the traditional hairstyles didn’t look good to them from certain angles and stuff like that. But I agree, the inaccuracies in that movie drove me insane too.

[@cassiel5201]

I've never been this early ohmygosh,,,, I LOVE UR OUTFIT MEME MOM!

[@schoo9256]

The day Meme 👏 Mom 👏 makes a video and she HAS eaten breakfast already, I will be shocked, I tell you. SHOCKED.

[@evae6129]

As a fellow history and clothing nerd OMG I related so much when you were talking about how centuries are like, a lot of years, and a lot of stuff changes, and you can’t mash it all together. I’m currently working on a fashion timeline for the 17th and 18th century, and it’s crazy because styles change way faster than people think. Would you unironically wear 1990s clothing today? No, just like how a lady at the end of the 19th century wouldn’t dream of wearing a crinoline and as a mid-19th century lady would be very embarrassed by the thought of that sheer, 1820s nightgown look that their parents used to don.

[@RachelDeRosier010894]

Azaleasdolls does design her historical dress up games with accurate pieces of clothing and patterns. It just all depends on how you design them.

[@TabliczkaMilkyWaya]

Buzzfeed: Historically accurate Disney princesses Karolina: Hold my tea

[@amatsukiko]

_spills tea_

[@bettasousa1]

Now I want you to put together an outfit of a Disney princess in the 70s that it's based off the entire 20th century 😄

[@yummi4tunekookie]

Snow White should definitely sport one defining look from the beginning & end of the 16th century: Giant alien forehead, to show off more of that snow white skin. Beautiful

[@MARTINREN1231]

that 1900 spice girl look sent image in my brain that i cant remove right now >.< i imagined them performing "wannabe" with that outfit .

[@AsellusPrimus]

This is the problem with the infotainment sphere on KZbin.. it's cool that a culture has developed around short informational videos, but when they become a business requiring a certain output every week then they are focused on getting something out there rather than doing it right.

[@aestheticallyaspiring2692]

Say it louder for the people in the back Karolina! 👏As a history major in medieval Europe, you wouldn’t expect me be knowledgable for things outside of my era & location, so why do shows/media outlets only hire one historian!?

[@thevioletskull8158]

Buzzfeed:we got historically correct Disney princess- Kaolina: *STOP RIGHT THERE SISTER*

[@meaganwallwork5395]

Ah yes the prince of Georgia. My favorite monarch.

[@katerinacerna8555]

Uhh, I needed this so much. Thank you. ♥ Also, your hairstyle is just on top, feeling fancy, might recreate it later, idk.

[@jennyboldrini7330]

Don't forget your crown lol

[@katerinacerna8555]

@@jennyboldrini7330 Yeah, that's (super) fancy.

[@ambersummer2685]

Them earrings tho👏✨ You pulled them off girl.....I couldn't.

[@thegingerunicorn178]

Absolutely love your take on this! It’s so true the historical inaccuracies are beyond inaccurate.

[@letyourlovegrowtall]

The music playing during the scenes that point out the inaccuracies gives me life. I always love your editing hehe

[@PuppysReading]

“That being said, I haven’t eaten my breakfast” is iconic

[@chishionotenshi]

When you see a dollmaker you have used to depict historical fashion, and know that's a LoTR inspired dollmaker. AzaleasDolls, who did you dirty like that?

[@gracie9658]

That was the Tudor one.

[@sourlovee33_]

@@gracie9658 I love that game so much, even if its not 100% accurate (due to the stupid show).

[@gracie9658]

@@sourlovee33_ Oh yeah I spent way too much time on it myself when I was younger, it's addictive.

[@nikiigreen]

I'm cracking up a little because Claire Hummel definitely didn't set her Ariel drawing in Georgia. She mentions that film version of The Little Mermaid is hard to place in terms of a timeline because everyone is wearing different styles. The inspiration for the look is 1890s Europe. I can't speak for the accuracy of the illustration, but idk how the video you sourced messed up that bad.

[@charliequartz2085]

i'd love to see your thoughts on the european princesses! particularly elsa/anna, rapunzel, cinderella, and aurora. i feel like it'd be really cool to have a fashion historian collaborate with a film historian to discuss this stuff as well.