Everything You Need To Know About The BEST MAGE Skill Tree In Outward (Philosopher)

[@SheenShots]

I knew there would be some comments about the title here lol. Philosopher is the best mage skill tree BECAUSE chakrams are the best way to play a mage. Trust me hex is way better for any other type of mage. Chakrams are just so cool and bring a very unique side to mage gameplay.

[@smoukyman8873]

Yes i agree with you the chakram is very good to debalance your enemy very fast and follow up with spells especially if you have elem. weakness chakram so you will destroy most of your enemies very quickly. Philosofer, hexmage and speedster is what i was lastly playing and blue chamber for extra life and mana rly fun to play.

[@Azmodanful]

Why not both?

[@StarkRhino]

Chakrams combined with haunting drums and sky chimes is a great combo. The basic chakram skill hits the drums and has enough impact to stop most enemies

[@Ruinedia]

The gameplay in this video shows me that chakrams are pretty bad, kinda the opposite of what you claim.

[@jesselalonde8455]

How does the legacy in the character creation work

[@1PurpleFox]

Please show your armor when you talk about it. And mention whether it needs to be improved through the legacy chest. The rest of the video was great, thanks!

[@andrewboteler7522]

My very favorite builds were always chakram-based. In a game where melee can end you quick, its one of the most fun/flexible in and out hit and run playstyles^^ Edit: Physical chakram build with legacy kazite/arcane hood gives you dmg+25% cooldown. Sorobar for +10 cooldown, or levant for +dmg(and even more dmg with the town upgrade), and tsar chakram caps it off for a fastass suuuper fun build. Do try it ppl

[@tychaos1667]

6:02 that's a very dangerous looking pizza. "It's not delivery; it's DeathGiorno!"

[@fulopistvan5578]

Best skill tree by preference perhaps. Personaly I find the pre breakthrough skills amazing. Breakthrough and the top skills very situational at best. Has the potential to offer a fun playstile thats for sure.

[@SheenShots]

Mostly I chose the best mage for philosopher because I think if you go pure mage then its one of the most obvious options. Hex flows better with a mage melee mix. And Cabal hermit is the best tree over all.

[@ValeriySaprykin]

I always have mage equipped with shield wich is great with fire wall. And always have fire+wind sigils up one in one. Melee enemies get double combo from spark. 😃 My mage doe double sigil, fire wall. Spark till end. If enemy is tough, I walk out, cast summon and manaward. Then repeat all that at random. Unsealed passive very helps

[@iamurage]

Thanks for that, quite enlightening. I have never dabbled with chakrams. I do get good income from selling those I find especially the distorted experiment. By the way I'm stilling trying to gather the Kazite medic armor together so I can follow one of your other builds. I just cannot purchase or find it at all.

[@SheenShots]

Chakrams are really cool just because they do great physical and elemental damage for mages. They also have the second best impact in the game which is really helpful. Unfortunanlty the wolf medic set is not the easiest to get. The chestplate can be earned in the sorobor faction quest but the best way tog et the rest it to free the trog merchant. She sells it more often that just randomly finding it in ornate chests.

[@ChidingOver1305]

still trying to get that wolf medic armor? i have a few extra sets, im on xbox one though

[@iamurage]

@@ChidingOver1305 I'd love it if you posted me a set. Tar.

[@pixelmaster9964]

I think philosopher is a cool concept, but it’s very underwhelming. Chakrams are banger, but you don’t need anything beyond the breakthrough for them to be perfectly viable. Arc is amazing, pierce is okay, and dance is so wildly inconsistent that it’s a terrible option in mostly all scenarios. Even when it does work, it’s just underwhelming in damage and impact. The philosopher breakthrough is useless and easily the worst in game. Fire affinity seems nice on paper but given every other source of fire damage it’s a negligible buff for fire damage alone, can be decent defensively for the fire resist, but it’s nothing that potions can’t cover. And ice sigil is obviously good for sigil builds, but it only fits that niche roll. Unless you want to play a sigil mage specifically, philosopher tree isn’t worth it. Just grab your chakram skills and call it a day. I do like how chakrams synergize with other skill trees, most notably hex mage (thanos snap build is sooo much fun), but incorporating chakrams into a mage build requires a constant melee presence that a lot of mage builds might not find ideal, and mana push allows you to rival chakram stability damage while using another offhand/2handed weapon. Chakrams are great fun, but it’s too general use for its own good. Chakrams don’t really specialize in anything, so while they fit into mos builds, they don’t really stand out compared to the other options

[@Fredministrator]

I never got into chakrams. I found the dicipline thing to be a bit annoying and don't like to freeze up for so long. I would have prefered if I would have been able to move while using the chakram (and for it to be a bit weaker for that). But maybe I give it a go. Sigils on the other hand are great. Especially for overlap

[@tobiasrex8052]

Especially since simply using Chakram skills use up mana on top of needing the discipline boon active. Very annoying.

[@Fredministrator]

@@tobiasrex8052 true

[@pixelmaster9964]

Mostly every build should be keeping discipline up constantly. Buffing is an essential part of outward, and there’s 0 requirements to have 100% uptime on discipline.

[@tobiasrex8052]

@@pixelmaster9964 oh believe me I know. I pop either a Dicipline potion or the skill itself before fights to use Perfect Strike for applying Pain debuff & follow up into Moment Of Truth for some truly satisfying damage. I'm simply agreeing it's a bit of an annoyance to have to use a skill in order to recieve a buff to use another skill that has a cooldown of 300 seconds before you're able to use it again regardless of the discipline boon lasting about 2/3 of the cooldown for Dicipline skill.

[@pixelmaster9964]

@@tobiasrex8052 you also get brace before the breakthrough, which reapplies discipline and knock any enemy to half stability.

[@Red8274x]

thanks for information first, a question how i can find the force bubble??

[@pwnomega4562]

Didn't know flint and steel was capable of doing that with fire sigil, now let me just fit it into the tiny 8 slot hot bar

[@SheenShots]

I know, its super cool but unless you use it before battle from your inventory it won't really get used much.

[@pera9268]

I really want to see a ice sigil build :D

[@SheenShots]

I want to make this soon!

[@swordsinger1061]

Barrier effects immolates self damage apparently. Well according to the wiki, not sure if that is true.

[@SheenShots]

This should be true from what I have witnessed.

[@ValeriySaprykin]

I use mana Ward for any character who has mana. Especially cool for rogue opportunity strike. Just enough time to get close and opportunity strike enemy. Chakrams are cool. And here me, completely avoiding them

[@chrisinglis5631]

People who think four seconds is not a lot of time have never been hit by a five second stun.

[@_Alle_]

Do you have a video on how to build this char? Or which breakthrough points to use

[@Covolsky]

I totally believe that this was mentioned in the comments somewhere but according to the blue litch firearms can ignite fire sigils just like spark and flint and steel...

[@SheenShots]

Oh really? I had no idea this was a thing. I will need to try it out thanks!

[@ashtonfrancis112]

Just scrolling through

[@orcd0rk]

Play Chakram without yelling "Pizza Time!" challenge level: Impossible

[@SheenShots]

100% agree lol

[@mkv2718]

I’m digging my current build that focus on fire and wind sigil using the red clansage robe and white pointy hat. It’s a shame those armor pieces don’t have any decent enchantments but they look nice. Plus leyline connection is OP. Barely ever thing about mana. Maybe a pottage in a hard fight for an extra boost and seaweed tea for mana burn and that’s it. Plus the chimera pistol and two meteorite pistols 🤌😘 works like a charm (there are actually a lot of interactions going on here but I don’t wanna list them 😅). Added in spellblade for more range and the fire buff and of course the mission for the lightning buff. Keep forgetting to get the lightning totem tho as I’ve not been over there yet… Still got the chakram skills tho… but I’m not good with them so I’ll probably just still with my lightning guns. I zap em, light em on fire, the shoot em some more and super zap ‘em with the holy blaze. Works nice. Even kinda op against some enemies.

[@SheenShots]

Guns are very good at applying holy blaze. Its probably one of the most efficient ways of doing so. As far as philosopher goes... its crazy lol. Fire and mana regen make you feel invincible at times. Chakrams are very skill based. Mostly because each skill focuses on a certain aspect of the combat. So you almost always will suck at them until the order in which you need to cast them starts to make sense. But they are pretty great once you get it.

[@thefakeIzuciel]

All sigil build op! lol fr tho it's a super fun way to play guys, give it a try!

[@SheenShots]

Oh ya. All sigil will give you a very different view of the game. Unlimited power and lots and lots of stones lol

[@SF-rp6ts]

that pizza tho!

[@Lostjayyhawk]

The burn recovery of hex mage is better imo. I can deal with the mana recovery with enchantments or several foods.

[@SheenShots]

Very true. I think the main power of this tree is the chakram. A lot of people don't really use them because they are very different but I truly love their style of combat.

[@Ahglock]

You can deal with burn with tea. Cabal has the best mage breakthrough, I find philosopher probably the sort of least maintenance one. While I think rune sage has the best mage tree overall its breakthrough is pretty meh.

[@sugunikibo885]

Mana ward is cheap in multiple ways. 1:06

[@SheenShots]

True that lol

[@zilvoxidgod]

I mean I'm not going to argue that philosopher, the core of my build, is bad. But hex mage is pretty unarguably the best. It provides elemental damage, regen, and a core for any other mage build. Most mage builds should be using it with shaman since the two together make your third breakthrough that much stronger.

[@SheenShots]

Ya I can't ague that hex mage isn't amazing. I have another title planned for that tree though. I think Hex is actually the best tree for mixed builds. It provides excellent damage even for builds that don't take a lot of mana.

[@Ahglock]

I'd argue that. Rune sage is the best imo. It has melee attacks, ranged attack, defense, traps, healing and none of its abilities rely on other trees to work. Hex is probably the best 2nd mage tree as it does a really good job of supporting any other tree you have.

[@longtoestubbs6724]

Heyo I was wondering if you have a discord? If not I would very much recommend you make one!

[@SheenShots]

I sure do. Here is the link if you would like to join. discord.gg/WqEYgq6wZu

[@xFlow777]

Lol I thought you're holding a pizza

[@SheenShots]

This is the mysterious chakram. It is a pizza that is made by a man name barrel man in the slums of levant. He tells you he can craft a unique weapon, but then uses pizza ingredients. Its quite funny actually.

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

Sigil stacker op.

[@SheenShots]

Absolutely lol. Sigil stacking destroys bosses in mere seconds.

[@OBIONEBARRONI]

Nice.

[@SheenShots]

Thanks

[@Ahglock]

Best mage Tree; Rune Sage has entered the chat.

[@SheenShots]

Rune mage is a fan favorite I feel like lol. I myself prefer the spinning disks. Although my next build will be runes.

[@Ahglock]

@@SheenShots While its generally considered the weaker option you can always go internal lexicon and then use the spinning disks of doom. I never do as I want that sweet sweet runic power.

[@ValeriySaprykin]

I wanna try make a mage that would use all sigils at once

[@d4rk4x3l3]

Hex/Cabal/Philosopher? Yeah it's one of the staples of magic builds. But usually you have enough skill combinations with just two of them even!

[@ValeriySaprykin]

@@d4rk4x3l3 yeah. When I build my mage, I didn't have any dlc. So instead of Hex I had Runes. Which is great too. As that was mage all around. Cabal buffs+runeshield on top of shield and heavy armor. Self heal and distant and close attacks of fire or lighting. The only halting for this build was in sirocco, with scarlet emissaries. But dancing around wind sigil did the trick

[@mkv2718]

@@d4rk4x3l3 yeah, I’m doing just a fire and wind right now and it’s pretty nice, the two synergize well, as do the blood and ice sigils (especially with corruption bonuses) The problem with all four is that you really can’t focus on a dmg type too much, where as you can with learning just two, or go balanced like I did- red clansage and white pointy hat. (Yes, end boss of 3 bros armor is best, not there yet, and at that point… why bother?) I’m using the palladium sword right now but I think I might switch to a meteor mace or sword if there is one. Or maybe a virgin weapon with the exploding effects. Already got 2 meteorite guns for the holy blaze, but a weapon would make it easier 🤷‍♂️ . But yeah, hermit, philosopher, and spellblade for fire infuse and elem discharge + mission for infuse light and the lighting bonus. It’s been a pretty solid build overall. Also the aforementioned guns and a chimera pistol. It’s nice cuz spark is so useful with both of these sigils, I get a conjure buddy, my buffed weapon is a better flashlight than my coil lantern (day 180 or so and I’ve used like 2 batteries) overall I got a lot of utility. It’s nice. Would build again 👍

[@SheenShots]

Very very strong. Hard to get all the sigils down sometimes, but usually drops bosses in a few casts of spark and mana push.

[@ValeriySaprykin]

@Mk V2 that's what my current mage is about. Wind+fire sigil, and sparking from it. But that's what I wanna to accomplish with more sigils: the combinations synergy. And being well rounded against elements. That my mage dealt with Crimson avatar..... by using pistol with pure ice dmg. And that was only time that character used pistols at all. Lol

[@saratchandramv1886]

What i understood is that, no matter how op of a build i try .. i still die (if im not running as mage) :) i copied one of ur shield builds .. i died ! cuz i aggroed 2 enemies.. 1 guy is blocked yay but the other one smacked me to hell. SO.. builds are op YES, but im not XD ..yet

[@SheenShots]

Lol love this comment. Shield builds do suffer very much against multiple enemies no doubt about that. I think the biggest hurdle to overcome is knowing what enemies can do. If you have really high protection you can be immune to physical damage. But at the same time elemental damage and two shot you. Focusing on impact skills like predator leap, punch kick, and sweep kick really do help, but they can be hard to time against nimble enemies like bandits. If all else fails, run your opponent into other enemies and have them hill each other. (Oh and try to set up two tripwire traps before starting a fight. They can help you get an enemy knocked down a bit easier.)

[@saratchandramv1886]

@@SheenShots yep knowing enemies is toooooo important. the only enemy i comfortable with is the mantis shrimp :) my bag is always full idk why i just have potions food XD and idk much about traps. right now a hex -rune-philosopher ! Like one other guy in ur comment section said, cant get away from rune sage for some reason.

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

Wait is that a pizza? :-()

[@SheenShots]

Yes it is a very cool weapon that deals fire damage. here is how you can get it if you are interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpykZoF5hdeJg5I

[@alexhoward2402]

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[@SheenShots]

Sounds good!

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

Oh hell no....the philosopher skill tree the only purpose of giving u passive mana regen

[@SheenShots]

Very very untrue. If you watch the entire video I mention that mana regen is a side not of this tree. Chakrams and ice sigil are the best things to come from it by far. And chakrams are arguably one of the best weapons in the game.

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

@@SheenShots wtf????? Memeakrhams? The best weapons in the game???? I can acept a that a dagger is the best ofhand weapon... or a lexicon but no memeakrahms....

[@NecroFkz]

Chakrams have VERY limited range. No, thanks. If you want to constantly run in circles around enemies - just use melee.