I would like to see a slope test, an aceleration test, velocity test, range test... Performance in one word
@D-Brow2 жыл бұрын
You helped design this one. It's hard to believe you don't have even a little bias despite your lack of sponsors
@AvecPasdMains2 жыл бұрын
Good job buddy, very informative and you adressed everything. Can't wait to try it out myself. Also, I love that this is the new official way to test for water resistance, we thank you for your sacrifice! o7
@AvecPasdMains2 жыл бұрын
@@EUCvibes The whole community is forever in your debt!
@russellzauner2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I get mine, you're all going to be flooded with footage from the Oregon Coast Range. I cannot wait, I might go straight to Brown's Camp just to flex on the gassies. I got crippled about 5 years ago and had to give up my dirt biking. Thanks to KingSong for bringing it back to me. I've been slowly building up my strength and skill - in order: Mten, V10F, V12, and I have the S20 preorder and I'm already selling my last, best dirt bike I own to fund another one. :-) Now that there's a ride I can get back out into the wilderness with, nostalgia can suck it and I need to convert the apex machine I had created into another one that I can actually use. Real coil over progressive rate multilink suspension? Insane ground clearance/approach angle, crazy torque, and unmatched wheel travel? YES PLEASE AND THANK YOU
@thefoss7212 жыл бұрын
Keep bringing this info!! Thanks for your time keep doing what your doing!! We appreciate you.. well most of us haha
@omidel.2 жыл бұрын
I will wach over and over again....BRAVO
@yusufcanaktas69292 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do the same incline test that you have did with sherman, exn and commander?
@Pixeliria2 жыл бұрын
Good review! Love your videos' style. Keep them coming. Also really glaad you keep being honest and show your critiques too.
@PB2001PB2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Best one so far.
@BornLoserPoker2 жыл бұрын
It's nice of you to create such great content so other unnamed content creators can steal it and crop you out of it
@slidersgliders55162 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have seen on the 🦅 . ✌️ Thanks for keeping it wheel ✌️ Let us know if you get a upgraded kickstand also 👊 respect 👍
@rockclmbrmike2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your unbiased reviews. With the cost of an EUC about the same as a used motorcycle, many thanks for your straight forward technical assessments.
@noelleonard24982 жыл бұрын
So did they seal the motor wire entry point and change that crappy power switch button?
@madbevo39462 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack! Explained a lot of questions that have come up recently. Look forward to see where you go from here please keep us posted on your progress on the s20.
@sadanimal19502 жыл бұрын
Looks sick. cant wait to get mine
@noelleonard24982 жыл бұрын
Me too, May seems such a long time to wait
@nonammmmme2 жыл бұрын
Have you been riding in the rain? Any bearing issues or weird noise?
@wutruriding13552 жыл бұрын
I heard the pedals can be adjusted forward and back and has two height positions. Did you try these different positions and which rode best? Also, some riders found it hard getting to and keeping high speeds, did you experience this? Great review.
@freshlycharged2 жыл бұрын
Super informative! Thanks for sharing!
@Drundia2 жыл бұрын
What about hollow motor in rain and suspension maintenance (lubrication)?
@GrimmRider2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! A couple of questions... What is the size tire used on the S20, 20" x 3"? Rim width? Also, can you address if the app can change the rear light output colors so that only red is used? I feel that a blue light is not desirable as it may attract police attention. Rear brake/running lights can only be red legally and turn signals can be either red or yellow, never blue.
@kazzmack93852 жыл бұрын
great post ... cant wait till mine gets here
@euc-mercielago2 жыл бұрын
S20, Commander, V8S. That’s going to be what I have in my stable. Thanks for this review!
@trancendedmindpalace2 жыл бұрын
The waterproofing and cutouts were causing me to hesitate on getting this wheel. Thanks for going over these concerns. I feel more confident to proceed with purchasing this wheel. Thanks!
@Mpower312 жыл бұрын
Is KS going to redesign the board to handle the full amount of current initially? If they don't that could be a bummer 😕. I don't think Gotway is going to have that issue with the Master and it's higher voltage, although we'll have to wait and see.
@LR11Gaming2 жыл бұрын
That and the range is my biggest concern.
@flagadajones8982 жыл бұрын
Wow that's the best review on this wheele at this moment. Great job bro!
@vonjabba2 жыл бұрын
-wheely thorough review. -appreciated. -thanks.
@pauljr2 жыл бұрын
Is the charging port hot like in Begode wheels? Thanks for the great video review.
@Hfunk012 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review, thank you Jack! Do we know if the 1000lbs coil spring will be available as an option, or can are we able to fit one "off the shelf"?
@norihiro012 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack. If I want to flip the shock absorber around, so that the chamber sticks out inside the wheel well, instead of how it is now. will there still be enough clearance to ride the wheel on non-extreme terrain? i.e., big jumps and drops. I'm willing to give up some of the massive suspension clearance, so that the backside no longer has that thing sticking out like it does. I could use that area to hang extra luggage to go out on mountain trails !
@GrimmRider2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see someone come out with an aftermarket bracket to protect the shock.
@norihiro012 жыл бұрын
@@GrimmRider Even better if KS does us a solid and provides what ever fix would make it possible to protect the thingy, and acts as a rack to hang stuff like camping gear! I actually wonder if that chamber even provides that much more performance advanrage or usefullness, to be worth sticking out back there like a giant knob, that's shouting "hey look at me! I'm a big suspension thingy!"
@noelleonard24982 жыл бұрын
A remote Mountain Reservoir would be the ticket
@coolhawk20032 жыл бұрын
if you hang a bag off the back it will rune it. be fighting with the bag to move all the time and over breaking.
@MrLolito1232 жыл бұрын
I want to accelerate fast from the beginning. Will KS fix this MOSFET thing eventually?
@CarlosGarcia-dr7bd2 жыл бұрын
From TIMES SQUARE NEW YORK CITY !!! YOU GO GUY 1 LOVE & PEACE
@GamesNShit2 жыл бұрын
pre ordered one yesterday!!! cant wait!!!!! OMG!!!
@technoalah2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed awesome video
@jamesm2172 жыл бұрын
is there any way with a firmware update we can change the rear light to just red only, i do not want a purple and blue rear light.
@danelstien72312 жыл бұрын
How user-replaceable is the spring on the suspension? I'm about 120kg without gear and feel that I might be more comfortable with a heavier-duty spring.
@coolhawk20032 жыл бұрын
max weight is 120kg . are you riding it nude? ex3 and bull can do max 129kg so better luck there or maybe the sherman max does 150kg
@kyudoh2 жыл бұрын
Thank you it is great video. However, I wish you have included a brake test, like emergency brake at high speed. Would you mind considering such test in the future? Thank you.
@omidel.2 жыл бұрын
When will.we get a review of the master and Ex20s?
@c120552 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack, as always a great video, your honesty is appreciated.
@okcrc2 жыл бұрын
I CAN'T WAIT!
@danielwong1262 жыл бұрын
great video. keep up the good work on your channel!
@LemonySnicket-EUC2 жыл бұрын
Ninebot Z10 has bms individual cell break down. Great review 👍 Finally someone talking about suspension specifics and the science.
@claudioagmfilho2 жыл бұрын
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Awesome video. After seeing your video, I am really interested in getting the S20. Currently I own 02 16s eucs. Bought them both at the same time down here in Brazil from some people in São Paulo b4 the eletricz ever existed.
@MrAdidas2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you wore alot of #adidas during the video. Great job homie making headlines! #teamADIDAS
@richardgarrett31882 жыл бұрын
Great video. How about the smart BMS features that communicate with the control board? Did they release a new version of a phone app that allows you to monitor battery cell health? What is gained by this feature as of now?
@kuemagecollector2 жыл бұрын
Is the water resistant enough to handle rainy commute like the v12 / Nikola?
@EVroller2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful review thanks for addressing the concerns! Im looking forward to getting my S20. I loved the water test 😂
@derosamade25712 жыл бұрын
Another great concise review. Thanks Jack.
@ctchuteflyer2 жыл бұрын
Will the back of the seat be better supported if you fold the lift handle back? Assuming you can disable the lift switch in the app.
@fisttaface2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video🤟
@thienpham3172 жыл бұрын
So AWESOME! Thanks for the great review 😀 👍🏻!!!
@tadeuszzielinski87982 жыл бұрын
Awesome review dude! You adressed everything imporant. Kudos.
@PEVLane2 жыл бұрын
Another awaited review. Thank you for all of this 👌🏻
@SeageSpeaks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, man. Cant wait to get mine. Just from having older KS wheels, i know most issues can be polished out via firmware updates, which is still crazy to me, haha. The only thing is that spring. Watch them FINALLY listen to the consumers during batch 2 or 3, and all us early adopters get punished (as usual, lmao)
@fernandofaixa2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is just awesome 👍🏻
@mikelove68422 жыл бұрын
I love this euc king song s22 over the s20 sir sick now hope to come home to buy and ride
@supermotodave2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about rubberizing the metal under the lift handle when it comes off it gets dented up hitting those black loops above the shock and have you considered making a mini roll bar to go on the suspension to cover the reservoir of the shocks so it doesn’t get broken off which obviously hasn’t happened yet but it very well could
@sam-yau2 жыл бұрын
How does the S20's top display look in daylight? Is it only locked to show a battery meter, or can you configure it to display other metrics while riding (such as speed)?
@madbevo39462 жыл бұрын
From what I saw on the demo videos the display show battery when it's stopped and speed when in motion. Would also like to know if it's configurable.
@FinnBjerke2 жыл бұрын
Splendid. Love it mate.... Good info, great filming. Thx ...
@seanrounderburgess72632 жыл бұрын
Anticipation for my pre order is keeping my S18 in balance for its respective King Song quality! I'm gonna drift like a muth'a on the S20. Swing!!
@yvonwheel49432 жыл бұрын
Great water test!
@tiaguerra70022 жыл бұрын
When is the difference colors are coming out?I want the silver1 when will it be available?i don't like red
@spadac45432 жыл бұрын
Great video. Gotta say I really am tempted to get one of these.
@tiaguerra70022 жыл бұрын
When are yall gonna do different colors?in still waiting for the silver1 when plz??
@ruigomes30612 жыл бұрын
Is this a offroad wheel ? 99% of my use is on road. Which one is better in comfort, v11 or s20 ?
@IbrahimIbrahim-gs2tu2 жыл бұрын
KS 20 and KS 22 is the same wheel or different? If ks20 and ks22 different wheel then I would like to know what is the difference?
@tiaguerra70022 жыл бұрын
S22 have a lot of different colors are they available yet?? Because I wa n't tgdd silver 1
@mikeintampa2502 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, very extensive review and I like how you addressed all the concerns. Question, in the first nine meters, can you lean into it at the start and count on being throttled or would it cut out? Also, when you say 100Km range, at what average speed were you riding? Thanks
@InsanitiesBrother2 жыл бұрын
From what I have read, the torque available in those first meters is akin or a bit less than Begodes 84v wheels. Just hearsay but there you go,.
@mikeintampa2502 жыл бұрын
@@InsanitiesBrother so it sounds like it throttles you in the beginning so don't cutout. Is that how you understand it to be?
@jtm942 жыл бұрын
@@mikeintampa250 they'd never let it cut out on purpose. It will have artificially limited acceleration but will always have the power to keep you upright. This is to limit blowing the FETs because at such a high voltage you're pushing A LOT of current.
@InsanitiesBrother2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeintampa250 it shouldn't cut out, just you will fall on your face. I'd imagine you could probably force a cut out easier. But from what I've heard it's not like that will be common.
@mikeintampa2502 жыл бұрын
@@jtm94 That makes sense, thanks!
@dialecticalmonist34052 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a range test where another wheel, including the Sherman Max, goes farther than the S22. So why would he say, "Unless you need massive range"? This seems to get the same range or better than any other wheel.
@sonyxperiaz36872 жыл бұрын
When you said it was explained to you, regarding "taking it easy on the 1st 3 meters" in order to protect the mosfets, can you tell us whether the person who explained to you was someone from Kingsong?
@Greg_Davis2 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@trancendedmindpalace2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the water test lol
@buggydanny66782 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very tempted by this wheel. I do have a question that about it usage, does the wheel do speed throttling at lower battery voltages? If so do you have a rough idea of how much and at which battery percentages?
@julianandyvonne2 жыл бұрын
I've spent ten year riding MTB tracks on a 'normal' unicycle (no motor!) It's really steep here. Just found out that you can get a motor! Would you suggest waiting and going straight for the S20 or get an S18?
@tubbehht92362 жыл бұрын
wait for the flaws to get ironed out in future S20 batches. The S18 has a very small battery for what it is worth.
@LemonySnicket-EUC2 жыл бұрын
You might find a second hand wheel and wait a bit for one of these.
@claytongiblett69532 жыл бұрын
Life is short and the future is uncertain.....just get the S20 and ride!
@noelleonard24982 жыл бұрын
@@claytongiblett6953 that's what I said, I'm not getting any younger screw it It's Only Money. Can't take it with you
@jimmyc2012202 жыл бұрын
How about when go up max 70km/h speed does it s20 cut power anytime?
@paulbramblet57442 жыл бұрын
Great review man
@WillofNewZealand2 жыл бұрын
Safety Tilt back at 70kph worked?
@LightCrasher2 жыл бұрын
First, do they plan on doing battery extensions? Second, do they plan on doing it in different colours?
@wheelydope2 жыл бұрын
Will the first batch have the upgraded front bumper? I know some of the first batch have already been shipped to the US.
@RichardFooter2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thanks!
@josedelfuego2 жыл бұрын
i know no one will answer my question, what is the music name used on this video?
@Ikarre332 жыл бұрын
Merci ED pour cette bonne critique ! Je pèse 90 kg diriez-vous que l'amortisseur actuel aura une bonne plage d'efficacité pour cette charge ? L'autonomie de 100 km que vous donnez est établie dans quelles conditions d'utilisation et avec un pilote de quel poids ? Content de voir que Kingsong va apporter quelques améliorations matérielles. Quelques personnes ce sont plaints également de la poignée arrière dans laquelle ils se coinçaient les doigts lors du levage en position béquille... Hâte de pouvoir tester cette roue moi qui ne fait quasiment que du off road !
@maldonadogiovanni2 жыл бұрын
hey great video i had some questions is it possible to change to rear light to the traditional red light or is that not possible? and do you know if they are planning on doing something about the power Botton being a bending piece of plastic or if not that they at least would be implementing a rubber seal? thanks a lot keep up the good work :)
@ivanmanalo95362 жыл бұрын
I sure do want to get one what’s the price on this item
@eekenulv2 жыл бұрын
great great review!
@floatypiet2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I'm in an RS HT right now, but I feel like I need an S20 second batch 😂😍
@BL10002 жыл бұрын
Would you chose the S20 over the Sherman Max, if you could buy just one wheel for the next year or 2? I'm 210bls, and only ride in the city. Thanks a lot
@BL10002 жыл бұрын
Only in the city, but NYC feels like off road ride sometimes! Lol
@v4v7772 жыл бұрын
If you want range.. get the Max.
@BL10002 жыл бұрын
@@v4v777 range is a plus, but range is not super important to me. Speed is. I just want to have last problems as possible with my wheel. And, a wheel that will less likely to have a cut off. I had a cut off in the past, and made me really scared to have another one to honest lol. I thought about buying the v12, but now, I not sure, with all the cut offs they are having.
@v4v7772 жыл бұрын
@@BL1000 Speed is 70km (42,5Miles) for the S20.. and i hear that you can unlock it to 80km.(50miles)... the Max i think has more speed too.
@BL10002 жыл бұрын
@@v4v777 thanks man. I think the Max is going to be the one
@kutvis2 жыл бұрын
Any details on the first 3m limitation? Will it stay on production model or be finetuned (dynamic limitation or something). Thank you for the great review!!
@v4v7772 жыл бұрын
Its not limitation... you just dont have to go all Michael Jackson on it from the get go.
@kutvis2 жыл бұрын
Aye, exactly. By the video I understand there will be a limitation for the voltage for the first 3m. If there have to be one, can it be tuned to increase voltage dynamically and not like on/off after 3m.
@v4v7772 жыл бұрын
@@kutvis Yes.. i think it goes dynamically... and after the 3m you can go full power.
@paveltroev82212 жыл бұрын
Nice review, reminds me ones of Kuji's, btw where the hell is he? he hasn't been around on youtube for almost 2 yrs
@Babyfasty2 жыл бұрын
I weight 110 kg, can you give a suspension replacement for my S20? You talked about Fox suspension before.
@Babyfasty2 жыл бұрын
thing is it seems that the S20 has been built FOR this DNM suspension, the true is that 240-75 is not a standard among bike suspension.
@thefoss7212 жыл бұрын
Hey you probably won’t get this but my S22 just came in and it won’t charge I’m so bummed. It keeps giving me a error you have any idea why this would happen? It’s the original charger , fully updated firmware, both ports tested … no idea Thanks for your time if you take any to help me
@ChrisTorina12 жыл бұрын
I have a InMotion v11 and absolutely love it but want a little more speed. Would a Kingsong S22 be a good upgrade? Thanks just subscribed 🤙🏼
@jaredboulderterry39122 жыл бұрын
where do you live? that city looks nice. nice roads too and trails
@CameronHemeon2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@tiaguerra70022 жыл бұрын
Hey jack,wen is the different colors coming out??I'm still waiting for u to respond here
@official.electricdreams2 жыл бұрын
there are no different colors , but the new limited edition is gold
@ettorevaccari11132 жыл бұрын
How the max speed ? Is 43ph ? Or 70ph ?
@Christopher-he6xo2 жыл бұрын
Do we know if parts will be easily accessible for maintenance and replacement ? Thx
@noelleonard24982 жыл бұрын
Only if they don't drench the production models with so much Loctite that you can't get any bolts out
@MultiTricker2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you!
@EUCWayOfLife2 жыл бұрын
You say range is 100km but what I am curious about is at what speed? I can get 30mi out of my s18 at below 16mph and off-road and I'm 225lb rider but as soon as I get to 18mph and above it eats the batter pretty quick.... So if this wheel can maintain my weight at 20-25mph and get 50+mi range I'd be one happy camper!
@noelleonard24982 жыл бұрын
It looks like anybody over 180 pounds is going to need 1,000lb spring
@EUCWayOfLife2 жыл бұрын
@@noelleonard2498 I got that from the video... Not sure why you needed to comment it and respond with nothing to do with my question?