Kingsong S22 Tyre comparison: Jiluer vs Pirelli

[@ChickenLittle2323]

Wow guys, honestly super impressed with the production quality of this video, I know editing videos can take a lot of time, but safe to say it definitely paid off, it looks really good As for the video itself, it's great to see an actual comparison between the two tires, this is the first in depth video I've seen of this wheel with a different tire, even moreso with the direct one on one comparison, gives us a lot more info to thoroughly understand the difference When I rode it with the Pirelli tire, it just felt like my V11, except it'd eaten nothing but chicken & rice, & had gone to the gym 7 days a week for 3 months, bigger, more power, beefier suspension, & still a great ride

[@e-riderz]

Thanks Perry, so pleased to hear that some of our riders really appreciate the content we are working hard to produce. Scott has done an amazing job with increasing his production quality of his videos and is an asset to the E-RIDERZ team! I agree that the KS S22 with the street tyre (and new firmware) makes it feel more like a beefier V11 style of wheel because it still maintains its maneouverability while adding more heft and speed to the riding experience :)

[@jb_lofi]

V11 but on gear, eh. Man, 6 months later and I already have 2 KS EUCs and I'm still considering the S22; comments like this aren't helping :D

[@naincarmona]

Hi ! great vid! I know you made this vid a year ago, but I have one question ( cause Im swapping to the P-A80:80) do you use an inner tube, cause I recived mine and it says tubeless how does that work??

[@e-riderz]

Hi Mate, Yes we used an inner tube. The tyre can work as tubeless but requires a more hardware Tube is a lot easier to get fitted

[@Kamikazekman]

Great informative vid mate. It's gonna be a toughy choosing which tyre to go with... Riding on Pirelli rubber just screams grip! Thanks for the info Scott.

[@e-riderz]

Thanks mate, This was an absolute ball to film !!

[@sby1076]

Can you put Michelin 90/90-14 52S City Grip on S22?

[@euc360]

Nice to know what’s coming ahead! Can’t wait to see the Adventure in the flesh! As for EUC public awareness, I have also noticed more and more people not looking at me like I’m from another planet when riding past them haha. They’re getting used to seeing EUCs cruising around, and let’s be honest, they won’t resist it for long 😉

[@darekmajchrzak4444]

Is the Pirelli tire installed in the direction of the tread pattern - wheel rotation?

[@scottsum1319]

Having recently swapped over the stock CST knobby to a Michelin Pilot 80/80 on my EXN, I can honestly say the Pilot is just as capable on hard pack dirt & even grass. The diff comes into dramatic play on gravel, loose dirt & wet/damp grass. But ya otherwise, I mostly agree with ya although the turning circles are more technique than tire as I can make the knobby turn just as tight but just not as easy nor flowy. The better accel is cos of the size difference as the 80/80 is significantly lesser in circumference thus, having more mechanical advantage. Not having suspension on the EXN, I'm surprised how well the Pilot handles the road cracks & stuff but I do feel the flat thumps a lot more than the knobby. Good comparo tho

[@milordas]

why street tire is mounted backwards? V's thread bottom should first hit the ground and now its sucking water to inside, not outside the tire. On motorbike tire is mounting backwards only on front wheel, but we need rear wheel, as its have traction

[@shinobieuc]

Link to tires.

[@EvgenyLandyshev]

hi by the looks of grooves on tire it looks that it is installed the wrong way for water riding. Be carful!

[@yeahbuddy6852]

Why not 80/90-14 ?

[@mufnman2003]

Great video. I bought this tire. Looks great. What a doosey to get it on. I tried using a 18x2.5 inner tube but I punctured it. Going to try again. Question: Did you use the same inner tube? Did you have a professional put it on? I don't think I want to puncture again.

[@ngai61]

Would love to know how well these tires resist tramlining. For me, a person who often rides under 15 mph, I can never get in that relaxed zen state when my EUC skirts to the side when lines, even paint lines designating bike lanes, are ridden over.

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

What do you currently ride ?

[@e-riderz]

I think the profile of this type of street performance tyre like the Pirelli angel could offer some improvements for this. I'm going to work with Scott to get some testing done as it is certainly unsettling when you hit a painted slippery line and feel the pull. Cheers, Steve

[@ngai61]

@@scottdaviesyoutube I ride a V11 whose tire has a half-inch strip "bump" that runs around the middle of the tire that makes it easy for it to tramline when running parallel with lines. I did notice that neither the stock S22 off-road tire nor the Pirelli tire have this "defective" design pattern. The nimbleness of the Pirelli is impressive but the extra plushness of the off-road tire may win me over.

[@ngai61]

@@e-riderz I just subscribed and look forward to content like this one. Great video - informative and relevant as S22 testers have been divided on the ride-ability of the stock tire.

[@keithancajas4623]

my 16x is notorious with this..

[@Hyp33rX]

which 80/80 diameter do i have to use? 14 inch? i didnt find it :(

[@matthewearl9824]

The tire on the left in the thumbnail was put on backwards.

[@vegas34162]

Is it tubeless or still tube? Do you think you could go tubeless with this setup?

[@flamingshortsflamingshorts1633]

One test left out was grip. Cornering on pebbles or wet grass.

[@thefoss721]

Hey I was wondering if a Tred tire is more protective when it comes to glass and sharp debris that jabs into the wheel; looks like the street is much closer to the actual tube?

[@mostpassiveuser8904]

I agree.

[@arthurrobey4945]

Have you considered going naked? (Tubeless). I'm plauged by punctures and tubeless tyres are much easier to repair. There's no need to remove the wheel.

[@EdLrandom]

they say non-knobby tires work great offroad even better in some ways like tight turning ability but only if it's dry

[@e-riderz]

Very true!

[@kutvis]

Thank you for the video! Are you 100% the Pirelli is set in the correct way? The watergrooves push water towards the center of the wheel now?

[@e-riderz]

This tyre is the 'front' Pirelli Angel tyre for a scooter that is normally used in combination with a paired 'rear' Pirelli Angel that has the orientation going the opposite direction. Since we have only one wheel then this front tyre could be switched to the orientated as you said, so the tread allows the water to go outward from the centre. We followed the arrow on the tyre which is the reverse orientation and didn't question it until after it was already installed.

[@eBoard3R]

⚡👌🏼👌🏼⚡ *PEV variety* is key!

[@e-riderz]

Most definitely! Cant wait for you to get on one and try Benny !

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

I wonder if there's a high silica tire like the Continental Conti Sport for better wet grip? Or are you confident with the Pirelli's capabilities? I thought only the Sherman could take the Angel but sweet to see the S22 as well.

[@oolong2]

That was a pretty flat smooth track and I doubt any offroad tire would offer much benefit. You really need to test on gravel, roots, loose branches and debris, and especially climbing. Long gravel roads are a serious pain on non-offroad tires. Also, I would guess that the Pirelli is a slight smaller diameter and probably decreases the overall diameter of the tire by an inch or so which would account for the extra torque and ability to turn.

[@e-riderz]

Thanks for the comment. The point of this video really wasn't to say that the offroad Jiluer doesn't offer better offroad performance, as we definitely expect it would on harder trails. The slightly smaller diameter definitely changes torque and maneouverability too. What we did want to demonstrate was how the S22 handles differently with the Pirelli Angel tyre, as many of our community riders found the Jiluer (stock) tyre did not handle/turn quite as they expected when they jumped on for a demo. So these tests performed by Scott were to show some quantification of the differences and explain how it rode differently.

[@oolong2]

@@e-riderz Yeah I get that, just pointing out that a common scenario for people might be going from street to gravel road and back. There is a long bike path where I live where that happens.

[@aleiffel7509]

Thanks for the comparison. Great vid. Are you going offer the s22 with both tyres?

[@e-riderz]

Thanks, we will be offering an option to upgrade/change the tyre, subject to avaibility of enough tyres.

[@christopherlansell181]

Awesome - how much is to get a pirelli fitted?

[@e-riderz]

Hi Chris, we will reach out to you with some details when confirmed.

[@DEFKNIGHT]

@@e-riderz Do you have that Pirelli on backwards? It looks like a directional tire.

[@whoistheroach136]

Beautiful, helpful video

[@phizicks]

somehow I missed this video notification...?? yeah I'm planning on S22 or a begode master, still undecided. S22 looks sexier/techier but begode is master/torquier.. also both break plastic way too easily.

[@Larckening]

would love to know the efficiency... Pirelli tires seems more aerodynamic, maybe it would have a beneficial impact on efficiency/range.

[@e-riderz]

Great point! id offer to re do the range test but that's a whole day out of the office, I'm 99.9% sure it would have a good impact on range

[@arthurrobey7177]

E1J. Muddy roads in Southern Tasmania.

[@robertbarel896]

the only test that convinced me was the turnability . the difference is HUGE. the diameter of the circle is 50% . thats amazing . turned the S22 into 16X

[@monowheelinmotionv11boyeuc16]

is the tire tubless ? Thanks

[@e-riderz]

No, we put a tube in it,

[@maldonadogiovanni]

hey I had a question where you able to use the same liner tube with the smaller 80/80/14 Pirelli?

[@e-riderz]

Yes the existing inner tube was used with this 80/80-14 Pirelli Angel tyre.

[@supakat1835]

Great video. I want to see the hero with a street tyre

[@e-riderz]

Coming soon!

[@dirt.surfer]

Is it the 80/80-16 ? Don't understand these numbers s22 otw and I need a street tire

[@e-riderz]

Hi mate, this is the 80/80-14

[@dirt.surfer]

@@e-riderz thanks

[@dirt.surfer]

@@e-riderz I could not find a 80/80 but ordered a 90/80 -14 have I made a mistake?

[@AtomicAether]

​@@dirt.surferDid you end up using the 90/80-14? Did it fit?

[@dirt.surfer]

@AtomicAether yes in fact, I learned a lot since then, lol. I put an 80/80 pirelli angel on my s18 and a shinko 244 2.75 - 14 on my s22. Both tires fit without issues. The shinko I think may kill my range some but is extremely aggressive and welcomed on the trails. And that's mostly what I use the s22 for.

[@nocturnal5123]

Great video

[@Simonisms]

That Pirelli tyre sounds like it solves all the issues that I had with the handling of the S22. Amazing the difference a tyre can make 😊 Great to see this comparison 👍 Thanks guys

[@e-riderz]

Thanks Simon. Yes I experienced that same revelation when riding the S22 with the Pirelli tyre around in the car park and on pavement. Totally made the handling and turning predictable as i have come to expect from many other wheels I've ridden. The offroad Jiluer tyre offers great stability and offroad grip, but Pirelli Angel really makes the S22 more nimble. Cheers for the feedback, Steve

[@lectric3]

Did you change . any better?

[@eminyildirim89]

First tries are always with stock tire and seconds are pirelli.its not fair your muscles know well what to do for second time.

[@terrenceclark763]

Excellent video. Definitely the Pirelli tyre seems like a good all rounder. Do you know when you'll be getting the new V12 controller boards? I'm so want to ride my wheel.

[@e-riderz]

Hi Terrence, InMotion have confirmed they are on the way, We have a list of all V12 E-Riderz customers and will reach out to them in order of purchase date.

[@terrenceclark763]

@@e-riderz That's great news! Thanks.

[@muratcatalkaya731]

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[@LCSRacing]

Anyone have the actual rim diameter of the s22?

[@ChickenLittle2323]

14 Inches

[@donbroni]

Great to know the latest firmware update improves the torque

[@e-riderz]

Yes it does! we were also very happy for that extra off the line torque

[@18MRpsi]

V12 HT with stock vs road tyres

[@e-riderz]

Coming soon !! our HTs have just left China

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

Yes! This! (are there scooter tires for 16" rims?)

[@thefoss721]

Yeah buddy!! Can’t wait for my Eagle to land!

[@astyn3117]

Need that Hemet in my life !!! Lol what’s the name Bell what ?

[@e-riderz]

HI mate, Man I can tell you its the best helmet I've ever worn, Its super light and the holes keep your head cool. Here's the link: e-riderz.com.au/product/bell-super-3r-mips-helmet/

[@erictestard4484]

Bonjour Super sympa ,le pirelli Il Est plus adapter . Il ressemble à la S18 Si il est plus costaud avec Une chambre increvable tu fais Le tour du monde 🌍

[@SolarizeYourLife]

That's a shame, knobby is better with broken glass, but the performance is not as good... What about the Russian hack of replacing the stupid channels to ballbearing slides??! That is what most needed!!! I would not mind street tire, not only is there broken glass in the street, and a simple thumb tack flatten my 18xl...

[@GenghisKhan311]

The price is ridiculous who can afford these

[@SolarizeYourLife]

A software update will not fix the stupid ass sliders!!! Don't buy a s22 until ks replaces all slides and motors...