EVGA GTX1060 SC vs RX480 - Mid Range GPU WAR!!!

[@Jayztwocents]

Hey guys, lets cover some things really quick. 1. Everyeone is mad that I used a "custom" AIB board for this test. First this is NOT a custom AIB board. This IS a founders board. Both this EVGA board AND my Founders card from NVIDIA boost to the EXACT SAME frequency of 1965Mhz. The ONLY difference between this card and the NVIDIA is the cooler, thats IT. And no, this FE cooler does not reach 84c like the 1070/80. It reached 72 which was low enough for the clock NOT to downclock. 2. "Jay, why did you mention the power draw issue??? Thats not fair!" - well because on my 480 videos I DIDN'T mention those issues people were mad. Now they are mad that I DID mention that particular issue. 3. The Founders edition card is $299. The FE is ONLY available at NVIDIA. No retailers or Etailers are going to be selling the FE. How many of you are going to buy direct from NVIDIA vs Microcenter, Frys, Newegg, Amazon etc? Not many Im guessing. 4. Why didnt you test Vulcan with DOOM? The same reason I wasnt able to test new Drivers yet. My 480 is with Ed at TechSource. Unfortunately is on a trip out of the country so it will be a few weeks until I get my card back. 5. "This card is $100 more and only does a little better" - No, this card is $20 more. The 8gb RX480 retails for $239 (and yes those are marked up higher than that right now due to availability as well) and the EVGA SC is $259 without rebate. THAT REPRESENTS A CLOSER PRICE MATCH THAN THE FE VS THE 4GB CARD PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT! 6. "Jay, why didnt you use a custom 480 board? Thats not fair blah blah blah" - Because they are unicorns right now Look, I chose the EVGA SC because its the cheaper card. No other reason than that. If I HAD used the FE then all the AMD fanboys would be rejoicing that the 480 IS $100 less and performs just as good. On the flip side I chose the EVGA since its cheaper and is more closely represents the cards people would buy which made all the AMD fanboys mad. You cant win with these reviews. People are always going to find something to nitpick about. With the exception of the cooler, which everone knows the custom AMD cards will run cooler the EVGA and the FE cards boost THE SAME. I ran all of my benchmarks on the FE and they were identical guys... this isnt some conspiracy. The difference is 72c vs the EVGA temp, but Im sorry to the AMD fans, the 1060 is faster in all DX11 games period. WHEN I get my card back from Edgar (Should be around the 27th)I plan to do a full test of the new drivers. But for those of you bitching that I should have done it the day they came out, my card was ALREADY in the mail to Ed. Simple as that. I am not the only channel showing that the 1060 is more powerful than the 480, but you sure like to make it out like I went out with a vendetta. You guys love it when I say that AMD made a great product with the 480, but you sure are fast to call me a fanboy if an NVIDIA product does beter. The ironic part is I have 2 AMD systems running in my house... a PC is a PC as far as Im concerned and I dont care which product you use so long as you enjoy your PC.

[@CrackedDylMil]

+HDeeno we don't know that it exists. I personally think that it's like a 1050 or 1050Ti since rumors said it had less Cuda cores

[@andrewgrubb356]

You can never win it seems. Either way I thought it was a great video keep up the great work!

[@CrackedDylMil]

+Hawky AMD fanboys do seem to be pretty oblivious XD

[@Crazyasian123456]

Can't please everyone. Quite frankly, it's getting ridiculous.

[@jordanmeyer2267]

How dare you run a cheaper card and use test run statistics to speak for you! Such bias, very fanboy.

[@dipak002]

"Two of these can out perform a GTX 1080" -- You are absolutely right in my opinion.

[@lifethrownoutofthewindow]

sahi bola

[@letalghost6209]

No wonder why Nvidia disabled that option

[@griffinhunt6359]

lol

[@dipak002]

I do not see much issues with scaling these days. Except few games most games do scale pretty well in SLI.

[@GSXRNissan]

+Skazzy3 no but pascal scales near 90% check sli 1070 1080 tests. And so on SLI and DX12 it can scale GPU and VRAM so you get with 2 x 1060 for 500$ or 600$ ( 2 × OC Card ) the power of a 1080 with 12GB a real Titan X crusher. And all this with 2 x 120W stock or max 2 x 150W EVGA GTX 1060 FTW. So 2 x 1060 FTW need less power in W then 1 GTX 980ti. And this is the point why nvidia killed this option. I buy a GTX 1060 OC it is the best price to FPS version for Full HD and 2K gaming.

[@giorgospapadopoulos7033]

Wow the benchmark music though! Awesome!

[@Arudis4x]

Indeed. Jay we need links to that epic soundtrack.

[@Havocsfist]

Definitely need that track name

[@einzwein7113]

+Rudiez Da'Man thank god SHAZAM exits just turn it on and the song will pop up

[@djaga3]

and shazam find nothing

[@rztrzt]

Darude - Sandstorm

[@bakerXderek]

Impressive seeing it smash on the 970 ! This new gens beast.

[@duarteandradecosta5188]

cheah

[@andersl.359]

Sure, but no sli:(

[@duarteandradecosta5188]

sell 1060 buy 1070

[@dfuma213]

+Duarte andrade costa or just but 1070. It would be 50$ cheaper to buy one card insted of 500$ on power hungrey choking sli. My thoughts

[@matt-e8016]

what are you doing here? go record a motovlog hahah lol

[@bscommissions892]

wow jay, really? aftermarket cooler vs reference AND you just so happen to not be able to test the 480 with current drivers. Nice going man. really nice going.

[@jackalll98]

Yeah not obvious Jayz is sponsored by novideo..

[@sermerlin1]

and it happens that he didnt test vulkan doom :D

[@izmedyan]

+[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] Because there aren't any AIB 480 cards yet, dipshit. NVIDIA does a better job at marketing that's why there are already non-reference editions.

[@WeatherxCalipha]

And where are the Custom RX 480's...?

[@BlueTheRage]

Typical... I love how he pointed out the PCI-Express slot power draw as well... Heres the RX480's stock cooler for anyone wondering, its literally sh!t. techreport.com/r.x/2016_6_22_Radeon_RX_480_card_poses_naked_and_bare_for_centerfold/radeon_rx_480_bare.jpg That 1060's cooler is at least 2x the size of the RX480's cooler even more possibly. (remember the tail end of an RX480 isnt a cooler, its just the fan housing)

[@Balomis]

New benchmark song is bumpin!! Great work Jay, always appreciate your videos

[@Jayztwocents]

+Elimentus thank you sir!

[@giorgospapadopoulos7033]

Uh...Can we have the music you used in the benchmarks?

[@LordMarveIous]

pls the music. jeyz pls

[@The_Seal77]

yeah what was the song and artist?

[@djega4881]

Niklas Gustavsson - Furious 1

[@Wowzersdude-k5c]

I am an AMD fanboy and I think the video was fair. Let's face it, kids, AMD is just second-rate with their hardware designs and have been since about 2005. And this is really unfortunate since it allows Nvidia to keep jacking prices with every generation. It's the same thing with Intel in the CPU market. I think Nvidia is a highly unethical company (for many reasons besides this) and I really hate them. But, I have to admit their hardware is better. It just is. The first step us AMD fanboys have to recovery is acceptance. We need to accept these facts before we can begin our treatment plans.

[@jacksvk7690]

yep, but AMD did finaly something really usefull - if they havent released 480, Nvidia would most likely price 1060 at half the price of 1080 (and give it SLI fingers)... AMD made them sell 1060 cheaper, so much so that they had to remove SLI to not kill their own high-end cards... so, thank you, AMD, your fight with Nvidia helped us, customers, get cheap and powerfull GPUs :-*

[@ZWortek]

I wish AMD could be more competitive and knock the prices down even further. I can't believe the prices on these new cards! $430-$450+ for a 1070 and $700 for a 1080? What the fuck is that?

[@taiiat0]

Intel and Nvidia aren't any more or less ethical than the comapnies that people think are their best friends. profit is the reason they exist, and don't forget that. given the same situation, they'd all do the same thing.

[@jacksvk7690]

+taiiat *cough* apple *cough* :-D +TheLast1100 you think thats expensive? they have lower launch price then 980 (550$) or 980ti (750$), and they perform better... 1st class cards always cost 500+$, 1070 is actually a bargain....

[@taiiat0]

Jack SVK Apple is 'special', but given providing basically a marketing monopoly to other manufacturers that compete against them, and almost the same things would be happening. - - - - - the Brackets that 1070 and 1080 sit in, means they're Overpriced compared to the past. GTX 400 was $350 and $500 for 470 and 480. GTX 500 was $350 and $500 for 570 and 580. GTX 600 was $300 and $400 for 670 and 680. GTX 700 was $400 and $650 for 770 and 780. (yes, 780 was Overpriced at launch, 770 was slightly overpriced) GTX 900 was $330 and $550 for 970 and 980. (980 slightly overpriced, moderately overpriced due to the relatively small perf gap between the two models) GTX 1000 is $380 and $600 for 1070 and 1080. (and we all know it's inflated ~20-25% above that, with forced lack of supply, everyone is doing that this year). 1080Ti will be what competes in bracket with the 980Ti, not the 1080. just as it's 980Ti and 780Ti. 780Ti and... 690 i guess. 690 and 590.

[@jabronii]

"$250" yeah we will see about that

[@jackalll98]

Nvidias MSRP doesn't mean shit.. I'm happy to see the nonexisten stocks of 1060 tho. Just the same way 1080 and 1070 launched.. Was just a paper launch

[@Pastechi]

snipers will buy all then resell them for 400

[@sudoku6177]

trust me its not 250

[@LonApex]

Actually, if you don't go to Amazon or Newegg, and instead you go to EVGA or other pages, you will find buy buttons at 250 to the 300 price point. The one Jay mentioned, the GTX 1060 SC, is currently at 250, not sure if in stock though. The original price for the GTX 1060 SC for EVGA is 260, but right now it is 250. www.evga.com/products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6163-KR

[@TheEwokGuy]

350 euros here :((

[@meerajbhavsar]

Nvidia is scared of their 1080 being not sold if people start buying 1060 and setup a SLI configuration!

[@SvrRud3Bwoy]

Lol can't sli 1060 moron

[@meerajbhavsar]

+SvrRud3Bwoy you need a brain to understand my comment, I clearly meant to say why Nvidia didn't gave SLI support in 1060!

[@SvrRud3Bwoy]

Again shut up moron

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

Even if 1060 did support SLI only a moron would buy it over 1080, SLI issues, microstutter, lack of support, more heat and higher watt usage, less vram with lower bandwidth.. Should I go on?

[@SvrRud3Bwoy]

Incognito true,glad i went the 1080 route lol

[@alexisentonfire]

kinda biased comparing an overclocked with custom cooled 1060 to a stock reference designed 480

[@SuperApaxton]

bleh

[@janisg]

just compare stock to stock... O_o

[@alloeVideo]

He's comparing by price. It's not any more biased than him comparing the $299 card to the $199 RX 480 which can't be found anywhere.

[@omaraloud8648]

well cuz its the same price maybe.

[@MrChicken420]

they released today

[@Tinfoilhat311]

Are there any adults here? Clearly the 1060 is faster than the 480 period. However no SLI on the 1060 makes the 480 more appealing because of Crossfire. But then I look at it and say to myself I would buy a single 1070 before I bought 2 480's. So I think it really boils down to personal preference. I think it best to buy the best single card you can afford. And just for the record I just bought a 980ti lightning for 300.00 used. There will be a lot of used cards out there now that can be had for cheap. So if your really price sensitive then that is a great option for you. This Amd vs. Nvidia thing just escapes me. If your an Amd fan then buy Amd. Same for Nvidia fans. Both seem to make good cards.

[@roynorback7509]

This. What is making me lean towards AMD is Vulkan API, and 8GB vram+crossfire availability should I ever get money to buy a VR headset.

[@Tinfoilhat311]

I think the 480 is a great card at it's price point and worthy of consideration. All of these cards are very new and the best ones are yet to come. Thats why I bought a used 980Ti until the dust settles then I will buy a new card. I have 2 Pg278q monitors which the 980Ti drives just beautiful in 2k resolution. I'm not upgrading monitors anytime soon either. (These were 650.00 each) So again boils down to preference,need and budget. I understand the need to get the best bang for the buck.

[@xieulong]

Well... The Doom/Vulkan benchmarks do show, the 480 mopping the floor with the 1060. However, there aren't too many of those around. The price seems to fit the the performance of these 2 cards. It'll be interesting to see how the custom PCBs will do.

[@KainArkanos]

Vulkan is going to work on Nvidia GPUs too, and frankly I feel like its going to work just as well or better than it will with AMD GPUs since Vulkan is basically like what will replace OpenGL in the open source spectrum.

[@Tinfoilhat311]

Like I said I think the quality of the 480 and it's price point are excellent. I am considering one for my son's system. I will wait for a custom pcb for sure. Bench marking can be a strange thing especially the way some games are optimized. The 480 is a perfect choice for my son because he games using 1080p monitors. That card will run them very fast at the highest settings. Anything more would be overkill in my opinion. 4k gaming still has a long way to go and is just beyond what most people are willing to pay for. I mean hell for a pair of 1080's and a 1200.00 monitor you at 2500.00.

[@AbyssmalAngel]

I was stoked for the RX 480, but the GTX 1060 seems like a no brainer right now.

[@MrMonkeyindrag]

That's what has me interesting in this mid range, as you mentioned 'right now' and that maybe true but not in every single case. Looking back on the 700's vs the 200's and the 900's vs the 300's, AMD cards seem to age a lot better, my 780 I'd consider the worst value card I've ever owned. The 390 for example is better in most DX 11 games these days vs the 970 and Vulkan the gulf is huge. So I wonder if the 480 partner cards in a years time will have closed the gap or maybe beyond since DX 12 titles will be common place in 2017 by the looks of it.

[@PSNplayer89]

Don't looks at jays bullshit benchmarks, he didn't even test Doom Vulcan and other neutral DX12 titles, why? Because the RX480 is equal or better in those, Nvidia told reviewers to test certain games as shown in the leaked "Recommended games" on videocardz. Take these reviews with a massive amount of salt, Linus techtips, Tech of tomorrow and all those.

[@toaster_bloke9999]

The only bullshit here is you wanting him to avoid the one off game that's made to run better on the 480 and Im struggling to think of many dx 12 titles right now, and not a single one that the 480 runs better in. Honestly blind AMD lovers are upset that reviewers aren't doing everything in their power to make the 480 look better

[@goodgolymissmoly]

It's not a one off though, the RX 480 outperforms the 1060 in the majority of DX12 benchmarks. That's not even including Vulkan (mostly because the future of Vulkan is still uncertain,but we know without doubt that DX12 will become the main stay API) So with that considered, the RX 480 is still the better buy looking forward.

[@toaster_bloke9999]

It beats the 1060 in Hitman and Doom with vulkan from all I've seen. At £50-60 cheaper at least for the 4gb model certainly makes it a better choice on a budget though and will be what I'll get, no doubt about that. But the 1060 still has more power, even if not worth the price

[@Teshkomije]

Outperform 480? its 100 bucks more and barely gives you 5-10 fps more. And that`s on an custom OC +fan model. lmao

[@2911oscar]

didn't know the 480 was 150$, where can i buy one?

[@djenos8144]

+2911oscar This 1060 is FE so it costs 300$ and the 4g 480 is 200$, so hes totally right...

[@mrhavoc2415]

+Jens Willemse the EVGA SC is $260. The 8gb 480 is $240. That's a $20 difference. For $20 you get a 10fps increase for most games, small form factor, much better temperatures, better drivers for the most part, etc.

[@NeoGamma]

+Jens Willemse Actually no, the one Jay tested is 259. And there's even a cheaper one at 249 on the EVGA website. Basically the same price as a 480.

[@djenos8144]

+Bret Ethell sorry, didnt watch the whole video till the end, Now I get his argumemt

[@jamiechampion4922]

Hello! Keep up the good work with the videos! BTW, have you seen your subscriber count? Almost 6 sixes!

[@TintelFruit]

So AMD Kiddo's you're crying about it being a reference 480 vs a boardpartner 1060!? First of all its the same 1060 board only with a SMALLER heatsink and bigger fan. Second of all where is your custom cooler 480? O WAIT! They aren't out yet! Take that im out!

[@TintelFruit]

Im not a fanboy... I'm a hateboy which is completely different.

[@JROCThaGreat]

+Tintel yeah it's worse

[@WhiteoutTech]

well the custom 1060 is cheaper than the founder edition whereas custom rx480's will be priced higher.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

Er, no it's not the same 1060, it's overclocked. He should have compared the reference "founders edition" card for an apples to apples comparison. Also, throwing in one of the most highly clocked 970s in there as well? With the number of free cards nvidia sends him every year he couldn't find a reference one? Plus, old drivers on the 480. Get real. Dude is a shill, plain and simple.

[@TintelFruit]

jtclowes You know your arguments are based on a bias,

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Before I watch the next 5 minutes and 17 seconds of this video, I just wanna say this. If it supported SLI, I'd choose it over the RX480. Then again. I keep forgetting about all the cool stuff AMD is adding. And Freesync. Because Freesync shits on G-sync every day just for the fact that it's free and doesn't need any extra, expensive, BS equipment.

[@khaotikt]

Digital Foundry shows the cards being a bit closer in performance, and is probably the review that a lot of the people here were expecting. Don't just base your values on one review, but rather support all these guys taking the time to put up this info. Also, go check out other reviews and decide for yourself which card you prefer. Keep at it Jay.

[@Jayztwocents]

+khaotikt I agree. No single review should be used to make a decision. When I buy something I obsess over reading and watching reviews. More than I probably should

[@wll1130]

People that rush to make a decision confound me. Sometimes it takes me weeks or months of research and consideration before I commit to making a somewhat major purchase. That doesn't mean one can't lean one way or another or have an opinion along the way but people should definitely do their research. I know lot's of people who rushed out and got new cards from AMD and NVIDIA before they even knew anything about them!

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

Yeah, and the prices are completely whack because the supply is low. And the drivers are probably not up-to-date. When it comes to tech, early adopters pay a steep price.

[@kevinkern436]

I'm bummed about the no SLI thing but I am super glad you brought it up in your review, you do the best reviews and I was following the Terry Crews new PC build all the way I love how you pranked him about not getting him on his response!! Jay you and Linus are my 2 favorite reviewers again thanks for all the work you put into these videos. Oh and I am 60 years old and worked in the tech field for like 30 years.

[@TheOriginalBullshiz]

Its a bit weird, to compare a reference card vs a custom card. EDIT: Never mind, just saw jays statement

[@JoeCool01911]

It's called "A BIAS"!!!

[@TheOriginalBullshiz]

Well, i just saw jays statement in the comments. It makes sense to me.

[@Travis_Inlanzer]

IT'S NOT A CUSTOM CARD. They're both reference cards. That 1060 is the basic Nvidia cooler.

[@TheOriginalBullshiz]

see my edit

[@JoeCool01911]

Same Reference Card Bios also?

[@GhostwarGWPTC]

i had the exact sme theory when i eared there was no sli support for the 1060 heres the basic conept 2x1060>1x1080 if 1060>980 and 2x980>1080 then 2x1060>1080 at less cost

[@tangtangtang1372]

You're so clever my friend, they probally take away that feature because when DX12 and Vulkan that increase scalling of multi-gpu gets mainstream, SLI/Corss-fire can really kick some serious butt. But if that happens SLI GTX1060 might kill the 1080 so they skip that out to ensure the survival of 1080.

[@GhostwarGWPTC]

the no sli thing set off many peoples alarms its pretty obvious that 2 1060 would outperform a 1080 cheaper

[@Tehsheeeep]

ofcourse sli/crossfire is going to work out cheaper for performance. you pay more and the more you pay the less value for money you get. for some reason people seem to be surprised that an sli/crossfire setup is cheaper and performs better in some cases.

[@TheArtisticAlchemist]

that and the pricing currently for the 10 series sure not every county pricing is the same for us the EVGA normal not superclocked 1060 cost 5399 ZAR which is the equivalent of around 375,59USD and the same goes for the RX480 8gb at the same 375,59USD mark and the ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 ROG STRIX OC Edition goes for about 486,90 USD now you tell me which company people on a budget will lean towards at the end of the day

[@Henrix1998]

But 1060!>980 in all titles or even in majority

[@davidemahiser]

I really admire how you call manufacturers out. I think you're spot on about your suggestion about why sli isn't enabled on the 1060's. Stay awesome Jay!

[@glennco8263]

btw you're comparing a reference rx 480 to a custom 1060

[@RobynnxX]

look at linustechtips's video for stockvstock

[@drewb242]

Even still his results are more or less the same as all the other founders 1060 vs amd reference 480 I have seen. Im sure if he had a custom 480 he would have used it.

[@ShortRound27]

The custom 1060 is also cheaper than the reference card so there is that...mid range cards are all about bang for the buck

[@pw5232]

and old drivers without watt fix which increases fps by 5%

[@twanduvigneau5809]

for founders vs founders look at digital foundry, its like avarage 4fps faster so not worth it

[@RHaines76Gaming]

gotta say I'm impressed with the 97p results. Hanging in there!

[@RHaines76Gaming]

970*

[@strange_jason]

Yup, the 970 is a really good card, it had it's issues, but it did really well for a card at it's price point.

[@chrobo]

Weird, all the titles you benchmarked are gameworks titles, obviously suited better for Nvidia cards. Most benchmarks I come across of I found when put together would get you only an average of 5% to 6% more in performance. Some going up to 10% to 15% as well as others have the 1060 actually losing to the 480, though. Those where the 1060 lost were titles where AMD obviously had the better optimization. So in terms of power, you're going to find the 1060 to be on average about 5% to 10% faster, while costing about 30% more. Although this is if you got the 4Gb version (Which I would recommend as 8Gb is a little overkill, plus doesn't offer that much more performance). So in conclusion, on DX11 titles your gonna find the 1060 to win 95% of the time, the margin being anywhere from 5% to 15% on the more optimized Nvidia titles. While on DX12 titles and Vulkan you'll find the 480 winning some. With the 1060 if winning only by a smaller margin. Like for example in Doom, opengl gives the 1060 about a 20% lead, while in Vulkan. The 480 gets a 20% lead, even with the 1060 gaining some performance. Though that's just one game. So what I would make out of this, is that if you want a card that gets 980 performance at 250$ or more, and should do pretty good for another year or two on DX11. Go for the 1060. Though if you want a card that should still get pretty close to the 980, espically OC'd at 200$; and you want that card to be able to hold up for another 4 years or so (Also being able to Crossfire) go for the 480. Though in reality, both cards are going to deliver a similar experience. With the 480 you get crossfire and better performance on low level API's. While on the 1060 you get a little more performance for a little more cash (Depending on how much you spend) though don't expect to SLI, as if you'll want an upgrade you'll have to get an entirely new card in the future. So imo go with the 480 for better long term playability and less cash, or the 1060 for better current performance as well as more efficiency.

[@professorbaxter5171]

except who has .5 mil subs and a video published...

[@chrobo]

+ChickenMaster04 him obviously. All I'm saying is that this review is disappointing, and seems biased.

[@professorbaxter5171]

then watch someone else like Linus Tech Tips

[@chrobo]

+ChickenMaster04 yea well I usually watch this guy. Seems like nvidia is giving out guidelines to reviewers.

[@riquelmicardona2817]

+ChickenMaster04 Even more reasons to be disappointed if half a million subscribers will get incorrect information.

[@teknoman117]

You'll still be able to use them together in future titles which support explicit multi GPU in Vulkan or DX12...

[@teknoman117]

*that have support

[@kakasedfg]

yea no thank you it's just bs to sell the card

[@DiamondPugs]

I believe currently there is only one game that supports that.

[@BizzMRK]

Since developers today arent interested in propperly supporting SLI/Crossfire if at all it is extremely unlikely to see a wide adoption of explicit multi gpu in a reasonable timeframe where the rx480/1060 are still relavent at all.

[@howardlam6181]

VR games can use multiple GPU

[@rieesu]

used launch drivers on RX 480?!?! LUL

[@rieesu]

+ overclocked custom card vs. reference card at stock speed. i like your videos but this review is so biased.

[@NeoGamma]

There's still no aftermarket 480s though, what's he supposed to do?

[@Necromatehun]

well at least emphasize that this is an OC vs reference... Linus used reference vs reference and the price/performance was on AMD's side... Also Jayz has a reference card right there and he did not test it? O.o now we need to wait and see a custom vs custom fight

[@Travis_Inlanzer]

They're both reference cards. The 1060 is an Nvidia reference card design.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

First time ive scrolled down in the comments of one of your videos... People sure have opinions without linking facts to published anything from the companies, game or hardware. Bunch of bark with no bite really. Ur doing good man... Keep it up. No sli no biggie to me.

[@MarkHera91]

great, let's test DX11 and gameworks titles only.

[@seawingo]

I'm sorry Jay, but this really feels like a bias towards NVIDIA. You should have compared the reference 1060 with the reference 480. It's completely unfair to make the stock cooler of the rx 480 face off the custom cooler of the 1060.. I know the custom one is much closer price wise, but still. I expected you to be neutral. And finally, I'm not an AMD fanboy, I myself am using a GTX 1070.

[@R4K1B-]

the price is the same dude.

[@strikepaw1]

+Rakib Hasan RX 480 4gb model =199$. Cheapest 1060 I found on newegg was 250$.

[@levyroth]

Other channels did exactly this and there's no difference. The RX 480 still loses. Check Hardware Unboxed reviews.

[@strikepaw1]

Morgan Uther The RX 480 will definitely be better in the long run. Look at how bad the gtx 780 is doing now. It can't even beat an r9 280x and it use to beat the r9 290. AMD always has better driver support for their older cards. Nividia cards will perform well but you won't see them increase in performance over time. AMD's cards always perform better over time.

[@levyroth]

Strike Claw LOL. The GTX780 was released 3 years ago. These are like dog years in the tech world. What more do you expect from an old architecture? I change my GPU every 2 years, as anyone with half a brain should do. If you save 10 dollars every month for 2 years you have enough money to upgrade when the next best thing comes along. As for better driver support ... my R9 290X did not get the Wattman app for example nor any performance updates in latest games. It's an illusion that AMD drivers are better in the long run. It's because AMD historically has had much more computational overhead which was alleviated by faster processors, software evolutions and optimizations in games. Natively, not since the ATI 9800PRO and the 6000 series has AMD had a good GPU architecture.

[@anafusion]

Jay, thanks for making this video. Ive been stuck this past month... or 3 on purchasing a mid range video card. Stuck on the R9's, the RX 480 from ATI, as well as nvidia's 970/980's and the new 1060/70/80. For the price im now sold on getting the 1060. Doing comparison's online have been a drag until i saw this. Thanks again! As for the lack of sli feature, it just sounds like it was a business decision to remove it since they are producing lower priced cards and this is their way of making us (the consumer) pay for it. Just Grrr!!!

[@Mr11ESSE111]

JayzNvidiaDollar$

[@johnnysilverhand9517]

Why are you so biased towards AMD ?

[@Mr11ESSE111]

Your #1 Master ask that same question Jay about nvidia and other channels with few sloopy tests

[@johnnysilverhand9517]

The reason gtx 1060 is a little bit more expensive is because of better software. Better VR performance , Shadowplay , Ansel , GameStream , and more which AMD doesn't have. Those alone may be worth extra $10-$50.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

Your #1 Master GTX 1060 dont have nothing for future like no SLI,less bits, less video size, and DX12/Vulcan games which will come in 1/2 year in higher numbers ....and few fps more in (older) games and in some are weaker are not some recommendation for 1060

[@JasonHendry22]

wow I thought jaz did a good balanced review there even stressing the lack of sli, what more can you ask for, Ive seen enough reviews to know the 1060 is the faster card and its not a small gap. But here in the uk the 1060 is selling for the same prices the 970 were when they first came out in 2014(shame shame shame) Amd cards however are the proper prices of 299 and 240 pounds.

[@Pastechi]

Hello Hi Jay! So the 1060 is slightly faster and a bit more expensive? Im just here waiting for the amd fanboys .-. But the AIB 1060's and rx480's should be around the same price right?

[@alexv.d.h.7331]

well its 30fps faster in some specific settings. that is a lot

[@Pastechi]

Ikr....thats how nvidia killed amd ones again

[@alexisentonfire]

wait for the after market 480s to come out, they have been rumored to be fury nano proformance

[@sudoku6177]

250? more like 300 you can cop a 480 for 200. boy nvidia fans funny shit didnt even beat the 980 lmao.

[@alexv.d.h.7331]

Mike Duffy well the founders 480 was rumoured to be 980 performance. The performance difference is in over clocking and heat. The chip doesn't change.

[@julemanden800]

It does it quite, efficient and almost silent... quite and silent, thats amazing :D love your vids jay, keep up the good work :D

[@MancaveCentral1]

mainstream gamers likely already have GPU's that perform at 1080/60 and have for several years. i don't see the point in these bottom of the barrel performer cards if they can't push the resolution and the frames significantly further than several models of previous cards that already exist. I would expect in 2016 to see cards that deliver 1440p at 100Hz or greater for the $300 range, not still pushing 1080p/60 at that price point. The AMD RX 480 and GTX 1060 are a joke. no offense to Jay or this video, just saying in general since everyone is still harping on what cheap crap card they can buy to get 1080p/60 still when the market has been flooded with perfectly capable 1080/60 cards for several years already.

[@TheMrLucasP]

So true, that's why I am skipping this gen and sticking to my GTX 970 until something better will arrive.

[@andtechie5210]

The games and engines become more demanding. Those older cards pushed 60hz 1080 but they were more expensive. These lower cards push 1080 60hz at a lower price point because we have higher standards today. Since the higher tier cards are pushing 2k and 4k for the same price the old 1080 60hz card used too. Sorry I tried word that best I can. I do understand what you mean by them just making new cards and keep making the old Ones at a lower price. Architecture advanced as well. Lower wattage for better performance and such. Not to mention new cards sell better.. Sorry again I tried to word that best I can

[@Blackshinigami08]

It's also a matter of form factor. I have a GTX 780 I was looking to roll into an HTPC, but when a good low-pro version of this is available I am SOOO making the swap for a smaller form htpc chassis. Also these low end cards often form the basis for their mobile line of laptop GPU's so this is exciting to consider for the next generation of GPU equipped ultra books!

[@MancaveCentral1]

Really? at FRACTION of the PRICE? Interesting. We talking the mix of alternate timelines or how all the cards will drop in price in our current reality?

[@andtechie5210]

+Wookie Groomer not that a specific card. It's just the tiers. Years ago top tier cards were the 1080 masters. And most people gamed on 720. Years ago a 1080 card was 600 bucks us. Today it's 150-300 bucks us

[@YologamerY13]

nvidia's pricing scheme is a hilarious scam lol.

[@2911oscar]

yeah a 250$ card from nvidia being better than a 250$ card from AMD its such a scam right?

[@ShoteR_Omega]

a 250$ custom designed cooler nvidia card being better than a 250$ reference card(there is also a 200$ 4Gb version)

[@2911oscar]

ShoteR so add 8c or so to the temperature, same shit, the evga and founders use both the exact same pcb, thus the overclocks are the exact same.

[@YologamerY13]

You can not buy a gtx 1060 for less than 300$ in 2016.

[@2911oscar]

VIJAY MADHAV so jay comes from the future then? considering he bought one for 260$ and its right there on the video stupid fuck

[@Assassinoxable]

Great video Jay! I already got myself a 1080 but I always love coming back to your videos and seeing your review and in take on these cards and all the new products coming out!

[@Sakosaga]

I'm sorry about the hate you're getting Jay because the plebs are being dumb and not using there brains and love to troll, Nvidia said 980 numbers and thats what they delivered the only issue with the numbers are that they are between 1-15 frames and sometimes going as high as 20 depending on the game and optimization, but from what i saw that the RX 480 can hit close to 980ti performance in DOOM vulkan, then why should i get a 1060, most people are saying the 1060 is a good card now and the RX 480 will be the better card down the line and it makes sense considering where amd is in the market and what they're doing, i think the 1060 is a great card but the RX 480 pulls ahead due to the future proofing and 8 gigs of VRAM tbh, plus paying an extra 20-100 bucks( depending on the card) can be worth it and not worth it but personally i dont think it is just considering how good the RX 480 is in terms of DX12/Vulkan, well minus Rise of the Tomb raider.

[@Czakima]

AND the 480 is Crossfire compatible but the 1060 can only be run as a single card, so with two 480 8GBs you can outdo the 1080 for far less money. When do we get to see those benchmarks? Oh wait, we won't on this channel...

[@TheKyshu]

I don't think RX 480 SLI would make much sense. Assuming the RX 480 is not AMD highest performance offering for this gen, I'd wait for, I dunno, the RX 490 or higher to come out, and then buy that. It would be a more sensible option, considering the actual performance benefit (or the ratio of performance to dollars for single card vs SLI). That is assuming you want an AMD card. If you live in Germany, I've seen both the 480 and the 1060 for the same price here, and in that case the 1060 single-card is the better option.

[@XansStuff]

+Kyshu There is merit to the 480 having Crossfire. In my case. It is difficult to come up with $400-$600 at one time, especially after paying bills. I can, however, usually come up with $100-$300. I could by a 480 now and a second one 6 months from now at a possible lower price.

[@TheKyshu]

XansStuff I can see how that make sense in your situation. If you have no monthly budget however, it makes more sense to buy a better card for the same price as two of the cheaper ones. Again, I see where you're coming from.

[@Sakosaga]

True true, All i was saying is the RX 480 is a better future proof card and i left it at that due to Vulkan and DX12, well besides rise of the tomb raider which favors Nvidias level of cards and A-sync since most people dont understand that Nvidia and AMD's a-sync have different coding methods but i think AMD's is better considering the Frame increase they get compared to the DX11 counter parts.

[@theomega831]

AMD = McDonalds Nvidia = 5 Star restaurant

[@AliAbbas-se3sg]

G1ZM0T0 intel = local sweet shop

[@akumarus]

Hey Jay, Thank you for all your videos. Helps a lot to see your reviews to understand and learn a lot even though I have been building PC since 2000, your videos are awesome !

[@amdhd6990]

the prices here in europe are joke. fuck, and i thought i'll upgrade (probably to amd because i just like the brand more). but 300€ for rx 480 and 350€ for gtx 1060 is just too much. i'll rather get used gtx 970 for 200€

[@Skiiney]

well in germany its 279€ for a gtx1060 and i think 250-260€ for a rx480, ... so its just a ~10€ price difference

[@amdhd6990]

SkiineY hm... so it's not so bad in the whole europe. here in slovakia it's how i said

[@Skiiney]

Samuel Fabiny just purchase one in germany for example and ship it to u \ :D / ez profit

[@amdhd6990]

SkiineY shipping would be expensive tho, no?

[@Skiiney]

Samuel Fabiny dunno... well its still in europe

[@TheGhosTech]

Jay the benchmark music, we need to know.

[@MafiaGameVideos]

Everyone in the comments in so butt hurt about amd falling behind but the GTX 1060 SC is the one of the best cards to come out. Ordered mine and can't wait.

[@warcrabcyber9908]

did you forget to take off HBAO + in farcry?, or you thought people wont notice. typical nvidia biased review only showing half the story. despite your biased review i would say the 1060 is excellent for the price, 970 owners can upgrade to this and get better performance or get a 1070 instead. it beats AMD for now but it is still not the better price/performance card which is still the rx 480. AMD also has an ace with dx12 and vulkan if used properly where it beats the 1060 then there is crossfire

[@calebroy8957]

off cause the 1060 is faster it i overclocked to the hell house you should of disabled boost so it was some what even if you are going to overclock the 1060 overclock the 480 to the same amount so it a even battle. and if you couldn't overclock the 480 to what the 1060 is leave them a stock or overclock them to the same amount that is just a rookie mistake

[@TheJp158]

Even though the 1060 is overclocked it would not change much maybe 5 frames at the most OC does not do much

[@calebroy8957]

The 480 I think would been just s good as the 1060 if he desabled boost and had them at stock plus he should of used a normal 1060 not a sc it was so easy to figure out that the 1060 was going to win so unfare

[@TheJp158]

the 1060 is faster as a 980 and the 480 brings 970 speed how would it have a chance?

[@TheJp158]

the only reason he compared the two is because of the price

[@Jayztwocents]

+Caleb Roy disable boost? That's a ridiculous idea.... If you go buy this card are you going to go disable boost? Yeah I didn't think so

[@caborama]

Re watched this because I did not remember what kind of thermals the EVGA was getting (building in a node 202) and omg!!! I WANT THAT BENCHMARK CHARTS MUSIC!!! Thanks in advance if you read this and let me know what the music is. Great video as always, keep em coming! :D

[@abedfo88]

why the hell would they not want to add SLI functionality...

[@metamancer2775]

Users would be able to get GTX 1080 performance or above for less money.

[@abedfo88]

I love it how nvidia always puts the fans first.....not

[@metamancer2775]

Andrew Bedford Large companies don't care about their customers.

[@deus2645]

they only care about your money

[@voluntarism335]

um no because the only people who bother with sli are people who buy the top end cards not the low end ones, and it doesnt make sense buying a 1060 to sli it, u should just go with a 1080

[@samhewitt4940]

And of course he picks the typical nvidia benchmark games that are all either optomised specifically for nvidia, or favour nvidia a lot more. KZbinrs need to learn to benchmark games properly. Choice of games is incredibly iimportant. Also not to mention he is comparing a reference design to a aib card, and overclocking them. ????? Not to mention he also convieniently doesnt have the latest drivers which don't just change the power draw, there are actually a lot of optomisations in there. Honestly this is quite possibly the worst video I have seen Jay do. I will however assume that it's not his fault and this is the way he is told to benchmark them by nvidia. Fucking scumbags. For freesync alone I would buy the 480 over the 1060 as i will save you a few hundred dollars. Not to mention that under dx12 and vulkan the 480 does beat the 1060. Holy shit i'm watching the conclusion and it's so fucking obvious he is being puppetted by nvidia. I'm slightly dissapointed tbh. I thought jay was better than linus and hardware cannucks etc.

[@Jayztwocents]

+Sam Hewitt these are the same Benchmarks I've used for 2 years.... You just now noticed? That sucks

[@gtaclevelandcity]

Jay you should really come back to this once you get your hands on a custom Rx 480. I'm not really sure its fair to compare a stock vs a custom gpu. Also why is nobody mentioning how f*cking cute that evga 1060 is?

[@Arvisgrt]

you are the most dedicated fan boy i've seen in a while ! a gold star for you.

[@wretchedslippage3255]

fuck you, Sam.

[@nick42986]

+Wretched Slippage salty sam is salty

[@jo2k459]

I have this card, the EVGA GTX 1060 SC version. At first, I was a bit bummed that it didn't have SLI - not because I was planning on using it, but as a means of future-proofing my system (kind of foolish, I know - now that I think of it). I'm no hardcore gamer; I only play WoW, and I'm looking for other games to try in my limited "free" time. This card, in a single configuration, fits my needs for now. Thanks for the review Jayz!

[@kathleendelcourt8136]

There are way too few games in this review to get a real idea of the overall performance. You need way more games, and more DX12/Vulkan titles (real DX12 games, Tomb Raider is a joke, most cards perform worse in DX12 on this game). You also used 3Dmark, why Firestrike only and not the new Time Spy test? And the EVGA card is overclocked.

[@Jayztwocents]

+Kathleen Delcourt Time Spy right now is causing a controversy. I'm glad I didn't use it. What other games are using Vulkan right now?

[@kathleendelcourt8136]

I was more thinking of that kind of review (it's in french but you don't need t understand the language in order to read graphs), 16 games + 3DMark: www.hardware.fr/articles/952-30/recapitulatif-performances.html

[@peterjansen4826]

A bigger point of criticism. Why not take into account that G-Sync has an added price tag of $100-200? Don't budget gamers want to play without tearing and without FPS-caps and input lag? It keeps amazing me that not a single tech reviewers on KZbin takes this into consideration. That price difference between G-Sync monitors and FreeSync-monitors won't change unless NVidia is going to subsidise it. G-Sync simply costs a lot more. That price difference makes up for the gap between the 1060 and the expected pricetag (around $400) of the 490. Just to make sure I just compared the prices of those brands which deliver G-Sync and FreeSync for the same models: same resolution, same refreshrate, same given response time (for whatever that is worthed and so on. The price difference is closer to 200 euro (more than $200) than it is to 100 euro. Only if the viewer already possesses a G-Sync monitor of a sufficiently high resolution it wouldn't matter (most don't!) and even in that case odds are that he might want to upgrade within a few years time to a nice HDR monitor for which you have to pay the G-Sync premium again. That's fine for the best card in the series, for the 1060 and the RX 480 we are talking about budget gaming! Yes, DX12-implementation for Tomb Raider is probably far from perfect. The code hasn't been designed for DX12. They improved it a bit but the amount of improvement and the huge variation between levels indicate that there is a lot of performanceimprovement possible.

[@LightPillar]

+Mavic 521 If you wait that long you won't even be buying these cards, there will be new ones then and you'll have lost 6-12 months of this cards life. The waiting cycle never ends because there will always be something better around the corner.

[@Bokogi]

yeah but you can just look up the performance of the card on other games pretty easily...

[@Darksiderz85]

Hey man, you have easily hit my top five favorite channels. Thanks bro.

[@lastcharmed88]

Jay Thanks for this. I actually glad you also showed the EVGA card. I also look forward to your reviews on the custom versions *Everyone should hold off on purchasing until* we can *see those custom cards* for _both_ Nvidia and AMD. Reasons get the RX 480 (I'll cover both don't worry) a)Similar performance in older DX11 and the cheapest 4gb is fairly cheaper without signficantally affecting performace. ($199 vs $249 USD or £151 vs £189 UK or $255 vs $345 AUD ) b)DX12 and Vulkan performance shows the 480 does better (Gamer Nexus, Adored TV currently) c)8gb Option is important because both AMD and NVidia are going to likely press developers to optimise for textures 8gb as rx 480 has 8gb and and 1070 and 1080 (the cards NVidia prefer you to buy) do as well. d)AAA games will be optimized for AMD hardware. Current Gen consoles games are massive Cash Cows for developers vs PC Game sales. And guess what PS4 Neo and Project Scorpio are going to be AMD hardware. That's where the optimization will be focused. e)AMD recent past gen cards have aged better than similarly aged Nvidia cards. _Hardware Unboxed_ did a eye opening video on this to see what I mean. f) Crossfire is an option. You're not stuck to having to upgrade to one card if it doesn't suit your finances. Reason why the Nvidia GTX 1060 a) DX11 Performance and that massive Steam Sale Library.you cuurently own. b) Ah the quiet.... the only noise you want to hear is from the actual video game itself. c) Lower Temps. Budget build might mean budget case and not one that has optimised cooling. Load up certain games and crash. Dragon Age Inquistion I'm looking at you. d) Nvidia Pascal overclocks like a champ. e) What's AMD VR plans again? Seriously? Like can anyone tell me. Something to match simultaneous projection? Now points about price, temp and noice will change with the custom cards. Why I advise waiting for them (may not have a choice but to wait given current stock level of both cards).

[@shmeee1348]

I like this lighting much more, great video as always!

[@Bangbangboom51]

Jayz, nice video, I think you are spot-on with the reason the 1060 in SLI will outperform or perform equally a 1080. Compared to SLI 1080, a way lot more people will definitely do an SLI(if possible) with a 1060 since it's more affordable and a getting a 2nd card is easier on the budget.

[@TechDeals]

I actually have no problem with the SLI gone from this card... While SLI is better than it used to be, a single 1070 is likely to be a better overall experience than a pair of 1060 cards in SLI. SLI is nice when it works, a pain when it sort of doesn't, and terrible when it doesn't work at all... Crossfire is the same thing... Keep in mind that many of the people complaining are enthusiasts who do things that the general public doesn't do. Tens of millions of GTX 1060 cards will be sold to people who don't even know what SLI is, this saves NVidia a lot of development money better spent elsewhere.

[@andromydous]

I had a lot to say, but decided to shorten it down a bit. Keep doing what you're doing Jay!

[@juniordada4497]

Thanks for the insight jay, love the vids!

[@1S1KStealth]

I know from experience most average "gamers" the ones that just buy stuff based on no real knowledge do not use SLI. I consider myself aware of the tech yet until 2 yrs ago I had never run 2 GPU's (now running GTX690) I still won't run SLI even if I could afford it. I am hoping to get one of those EVGA 1060's. Enjoy your content Jay keep it up

[@evdevd77]

This is AMAZING VIDEO. You covered more info then I would expect from you. This is a quality that I am looking for. :-)

[@LEXTHE4]

I liked the music during the benchmarks dude! Big way better than the crappy stuff you hear everywhere you normally use.

[@Pr0Fr0]

You make a good point about how some people may only be able to afford a ~$250 card right now and then another one later in hopes to SLI/Xfire them. And you are correct about dual GPU set ups being pretty viable these days. But I would still have to say that they would be better off just selling their first card and upgrading to a better single GPU solution.

[@netkev92]

Thanks for the 4K numbers. That short EVGA card looks really nice. The 1060 looks like a no-brainer upgrade for $20. The RX 480 mostly looks like a bargain option if 4Gb is enough. SLI means nothing to me planning an ITX build. Card power improved 65% over the last 2 years, so SLI only looks useful if you plan to do it within 2 years of initial purchase or buy used.

[@KurtKloetentreter]

Jay I love your videos so much. So honest and logical.

[@Darksector88]

People think that when you say boost, you mean an oc that you personally have added. Seriously Jay, you seem to attract a lot of new individuals to the channel that don't know the difference between an amp and a watt. Great review, for $259, the EVGA 1060 is a beast. However once 4Gb models of the 480 are available for the $199 price they are suppose to be, would you say that those maybe the 1080p gaming price to performance kings?

[@Jayztwocents]

+Darksector88 i think that 4GB for even 1080p isn't enough these days. Games and textures are getting hungry for VRAM, even the latest AAA titles in 1080p are proving this.

[@912cal28son]

+JayzTwoCents is that car in the monitor background yours?

[@Darksector88]

Thank you Jay for taking the time to comment, that really means a lot. I have been noticing my 980 Ti maxin out in some demanding titles but in 1440p and was curious if 4Gb was still considered enough in 1080p. My wife is still rockin the 2Gb model of the EVGA GTX 770 and she's needing an upgrade. Everthing she's playing right now seems to max out her vram, so I'll be looking into the 1060 most likely. Thanks again Jay.

[@colealexander4453]

+Darksector88 4gb won't be enough if you want to max out everything like AA. I'd honestly recommend 6gb as the sweet spot, but 8gb is even better because it opens doors to upgrade to a 1440p monitor in the future.

[@atascatorDAOC]

Thanks for the info Jay. Its clear to me that 2 1060s will outperform a 1080 and thats why they dont want SLI support. BTW that 350z of yours looks awesome. Cheers from a 2006 Z owner mate!

[@rhysmuir]

Thanks Jay! Almost the exact benchmark comparison I wanted to see, as I am currently considering the rx480 reference and EVGA gtx 1060 SC. Only wished that you included some DX12 games

[@Kwipper]

I don't mind the GTX 1060 not supporting SLI. I don't like using SLI/Crossfire setups. I'd rather have one card that can get the job done right, than two cards that will be buggy and/or may or may not scale well with the game in question.

[@viowithcrailtap]

I thought the same. If you're planning to buy a second one down the line why not just hold off, save a bit more and buy a 1070 and save the hassle of sli.

[@RegularDudeInTraffic]

Also I will always love your videos as long as you are yourself JAY. Keep up the awesome work and I know you have heard this before, but don't listen to the haters.

[@bellabella852]

Okay, Jay, first of all this was a fantastic video as always, but secondly, do you happen to have the title of the song that played in the background? I actually really, really liked it.

[@joelalfveby7233]

8:10 "It does it *quiet*, efficient, and pretty much *silent*." Oh boy, it's quiet AND silent? It's what I've always wanted! On a less sarcastic note, good review!

[@bebesluckyhuman8327]

Thank you, great direct review. I am actually ok with the no SLI. Usually don't side with the corp but, as long as you can get this card for the price, they have already blown away the 970, 980 which still had life in them. So, I can see why they would want to hold something back.

[@kahelsoro]

All in all, it's really just preference: Okay guys just put iit this way: 1. Not an enthusiast level person? then the 1060 is quite the bang for your buck -Personally, im okay with the 1060, ATM im quite satisfied with my 1080p 22-inch monitor. In order for me to appreciate the 1070 and 1080, then a 4K monitor would be great, but most 4k monitors are way humongous for my size 2. On the otherhand if you are, then go for the 1070 or 1080 -Get your beastly 4k monitor and im sure you would be happy with this choice On a side note, Awesome vid Jayz! ^_^ I do have to agree with you on the "Nvdia knows who is doing SLI" and probably they saw that statistics, that people with mid builds tend to opt for a single card only. Soo, they probably did this to lower the price of the 1060

[@kahelsoro]

ON a side on AMD, hmmm..honestly, im not a fan with AMD devices. They eat out power and bang out heat, yes they have improved, but not as great as intel or Nvdia. Price-point, they're quite cheaper though. I've burnt out to 3 computers already with their CPU and their GPUs Compared to intel+Nvdia Combo w/c has been doing well and often times, the motherboard fails first BUUUT still to make my dedicated gaming Rig (1st time making a dedicated gaming rig) haha Still, opting to Nvdia and Intel

[@tarpiddia]

I thought this was a great review Jay. Thank you for being my "go-to" graphics card reviewer.

[@WeeManDoG]

Well that made my mind up :) Thanks dude!!!

[@RhythmBadge]

Personally I think you did ok with the review given the circumstances. Really hope at some point you can get your hands on a 480 nonref card in the future (preferably the sapphire one, HI ED lol) and run the test again. Also with some of the rumors going that 480s can get up to 1500+ on aftermarket I would like to see your results from those trials too. Still think the winner is the RX480 for two main reasons 1. 2 More GB of VRAM, this can be a big thing to modders and some games can go over 6 GB VRAM in rare cases 2. Crossfire. You mentioned it yourself. Can afford one one day, acouple months down the road get another. Which I could see some people doing for 4K with high(ish) settings or 1440 @144hz Either way it is nice to see some competition at the level that really matters imo

[@leesiyin]

I just watched your review on SMA8 and DAMN, you lost tons of weight, proud of you Jay, I kinda doubt you will see this comment. Still proud of you.

[@heckyes]

Funky beats man. Dope montage of benchmarks.

[@MrCabledawg45]

dude Jay You are the first video I watched that used the $250 card instead of the founder's edition. that is the one I was looking at. awesome video

[@thestig007]

Excluding SLI is a big mistake. When I was younger and didn't have as much money, I did exactly what you said. I'd build a computer with the idea that I could upgrade parts in the future. I'd buy one card that had SLI capability, then add a second card when I had the money for it. I think a lot of people do that.

[@swiggens2]

Just bought the gigabyte windforce 1060 .Just thanks jay it rocks and i am playing bf1 beta on auto settings everything went to ultra and a smooth 70 to 90 fps 1080p on my system that i built for Battlefield bad company 2 . Went from 2 gtx570 cards sli unplayable to wow. System is a evga p55 classified mobo 16 gigs of ram i5 760 clocked to 3.6 just wow this old system is like new again. Thanks again for the good videos.

[@otengmpofu6074]

if you think about it, Nvidia made a good call not to SLI the card because if they did, that would mean the card would actually out-perform the 1080 which becomes bad for business, the 1080 will loose even more sales. the other thing is that most PC gamers do 1080p gaming and for a card that hits above 60fps at 1080p max or high settings at $299 i think its a great deal. Also if you take a look at people who are switching from console gaming to pc gaming most of them start off with a small budget pc and this card will be a good start for them... so in ma own opinion, i think they made the right choice not including SLI on the card.

[@ganthore]

Holy shit, lovin the new benchmark song!

[@Machtyn]

Speaking of SLI. I've always wanted to put my cards in SLI mode because (like you said) I have money to buy one now. I'll buy a second one when the prices drop and I can pick one up on the cheap. The problem is the prices never dropped far enough for me to justify the cost because my card was far enough out of date that I could just pick up the latest card and get far better performance. For example, I purchased the 660GTX a couple years ago. When I get the 1060 or the 1070 (I can't justify $500+ on a GPU, I'm having a hard time at $400+) It will be many years before I think to upgrade again. By that time, the 1060 will, maybe, be at $150 and it'd be just as logical to dump the 1060 and get the latest, greatest 1260 for $250 (or whatever). So, two 1060s *might* perform better than a single 1080. But then you're losing support in some games that don't support SLI and you're paying out a greater expense in heat and power draw. IMHO, the long run costs of two 1060s in SLI outweigh the single upfront cost of a 1080. For me, where I would be an enthusiast except I'm not wealthy, a single 1060 or 1070 will be fine.

[@tiefindir]

imho one of the best 1060 Review so far !The size of the EVGA 1060 looks like the GTX 750TI.ty for the upload+testing .

[@Forcemaster2000]

I got my 1060 FE yesterday, I'm loving it! I'm fine with Nvidia not having SLI on it, they've given us some fantastically powered cards at affordable prices, so if they want to reserve SLI for their higher priced cards to make a little money, that's fine by me. They could have held this pascal technology behind high prices and budget gamers like myself would have to stay sitting out in the cold!

[@FredPalmerJr1]

+EVGA .. I am a huge fan. Will always be. This is an excellent card for the money. If I were building a small form factor PC. This would definitely be the choice. Great job Jay.. as always.

[@atrusion8019]

That's right boys. A GTX 980 for $259. Damn it feels good to be a PC gamer.

[@makesx7]

Subscribed. Great review dude

[@andylaidb9]

Jay's comparison is valid for me imo, in Taiwan, this evga card has the same price as the reference RX480

[@brady736]

bench the 1060 SC against a RX 480 Sapphire nitro OC+ when they come out please. Thanks for the video! great as always :)

[@10tenman10]

I bought the founder edition from Nvidia today @ $300. Reason: the cheapest next price was $270 but was on backorder (and I'm building the computer over the next week and can't wait) . The next cheapest was $280 but I hadn't heard of the manufacturer and 2 of the 4 comments complained about fan noise (which I dislike). Should arrive in 3 days.

[@christian103]

Now we'll be waiting for another RX 480 benchmark with the new drivers. Thanks for the videos Jay.

[@WoW_Lepic]

+JayzTwoCents Hey Jay, I liked your theory that the 1060 Pascal chip in SLI might outperform a 1080. I think you can test the scaling with 2x1070 and find the SLI ratio of Pascal GPU's. By the way, nice video, keep it up!

[@theomega831]

Team Green: GTX 1080 > Titan X by 30% = $599 GTX 1070 > Titan X by 5% = $379 GTX 1060 > GTX 980 by 5 to 10% = $249 Pros: Cons: 1.Enthusiast performance king 1.Founder's Edition 2.Best power efficiency 2.No SLI fingers ( but can still do SLI) 3.Mid range performance king 3.Weaker Async support 4.Best overclocker 4.Closed source and proprietary tech. 5.Runs cooler 6.Better drivers for DX11 games 7.Sleeker design 8.GTX 980 performance at half the price 9.Ansel 10.SMP 11.Better VR performance 12.Higher quality reference cooler 13.Better 3rd party vendors Team Red: RX 480 8GB = GTX 970 = $239 RX 470 = GTX 960 = $149/$169 RX 460 = GTX 950 = $89/$109 Pros: Cons: 1.Best Vulken, Async support 1.Power throttling issues 2.Cheapest next gen cards 2.Doesn't oc well on stock cooler 3.Crossfire support @ mid range 3.Crappy driver support upon AAA game launch 4.GTX 970 performance @ $200 4.Cheap plastic reference cooler 5.Display Port 1.3 support 6.Premium VR 7.Good driver maturation 8.Open source approach

[@robinbernardinis]

I'm really happy it doesn't have SLI support. RX 480: Slightly less powerful Slightly less expensive Crossfire support More DX12 and Vulkan gains Performance increase over time More power draw Higher temps Your money goes to AMD, which is struggling against both Intel and Nvidia and supports open software and hardware. GTX 1060: Slightly more powerful Slightly more expensive No SLI support Doesn't gain much from new APIs Will be gimped Less power draw Lower temps Your money goes to NGreedia, which is currently dominating the market and is using this fact to push closed source tech upon the consumers to suck as much money from them as possible

[@NerdBerd]

The 960 series didn't seem to scale quite as well in SLI as I'd hoped but with the crazy performance gains in the 1060's the sli gains may well have been enough to warrant them not upsetting the market for their performance cards.

[@johnnyisfallingapart]

Loved the song Jay, good choice

[@TikTokPCTech]

Think u may have went a bit overboard with the 1440p statement, blow the doors off AAA titles. Yes does "blow the doors off" at 1080p. The GTX 1060 fps at 1440p is playable to good. Seeing a small bit of NVIDIA fanboy poke through. Thanks for all your great videos and love your off key humor.

[@TheNova24]

As an AMD fan I'm honestly not mad at this video. I understand the logic he was going behind completely. I'm more disappointed than anything. I really thought AMD had finally stepped their game up and they fell flat again. I currently have a 390 Nitro (which I saw Jayz review and decided to get) so I wasn't planning on getting the 480 anyway, but after this I do think my next GPU purchase will be for the green team. Here's to hoping Zen doesn't fall flat as well.

[@MrDamianOZ]

In my opinion it depends on the cost. If adding the SLI support would add like $5 to the price, they could add it. But if by removing it they saved like $25 or something, than it was a good move. I personally know only one person who has more than one card in his tower. The rest of us (and most of my friends are gamers) use one card, and once the time comes to upgrade, we just buy a new card instead of buying second same one. For example now, I am going to buy the 1060 instead of purchasing second R9 280X. So if not adding the SLI support helped to decrease the price, I'm happy about it.

[@imtiazuddin6257]

Hey Jay, I was hoping you would make another video of rx-480 vs gtx 1060 after you get your card and update rx-480 driver. Also I was wonder about something. I intend to upgrade my pc and want to make a double/triple monitor system, but my budgets are tight. Also, I'm not a hard-core gamer, I intend to use my pc as workstation for coding, photoshop, video editing, etc. So, what do you think I should do? Should I buy multple rx-480 or single 1060. I don't think I'll have budget for 1080, and I also think multiple rx-480 with crossfire would be better than single 1080? I would like your opinion on that, if u have time. Thanks for this video and keep up the good work.