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EVH 5150iiiS Stealth Vs EL34

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rockinchippy

rockinchippy

Күн бұрын

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@Trumpisdumb
@Trumpisdumb 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched a gazillion videos comparing these two amps, but this is by far the best video. Thank you!
@GeneSchmidt
@GeneSchmidt Ай бұрын
I may be in the market for one of these two amps. So glad I stumbled onto your video, Alex. Everyone else is djent’ -ing the crap out of these amps and I can’t get the feel. You nailed what I needed to hear!
@joshm3123
@joshm3123 Жыл бұрын
Both sound fantastic. What is awesome about these EVH amps is that yes they can do metal tones all day long- but the clean tone (after all, the amps are manufactured by Fender) is also fantastic. Extremely versatile- can hang with Mesa, Friedman, Marshall, Bogner- and at a reasonable price tag.
@noahmoore6513
@noahmoore6513 4 жыл бұрын
Man says the 6L6 doesn’t have a clean channel but he got the gain at 2:00😂
@peterschaefer1665
@peterschaefer1665 4 жыл бұрын
The point is that they are set the same way and one is squeaky clean.
@lovingpeace9715
@lovingpeace9715 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterschaefer1665 ok but the Stealth was made with more gain. You simply have to turn down the gain. 2 o'clock on a Marshall is pretty toasty as well. Rockinchippy just had to dial back the gain and turn up the master to balance the volumes. Both amps sound good green and blue but the red channel on the stealth destroys the EL34 What blew me away was the sound of the Green channel on the stealth with everything dimed. Roll back the volume to clean it up. Just found a used Stealth at a great price. Thanks for the video comarison
@mikescotch8894
@mikescotch8894 2 жыл бұрын
Red channel on the stealth blows away the EL 34 amplifier…
@joeylizotte7537
@joeylizotte7537 3 ай бұрын
@@mikescotch8894 They're both "Stealths", though.
@arspook6886
@arspook6886 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect comparison. Most just want to show how metal an amp can get, but you also want to know how classic the amp can sound when playing blues, or classic 70's and 80's rock. These companies would sell way more amps if they'd show how to get AC/DC to ZZ tops tones out of their amps instead of the abrasive metal tones all the time, JMHO,.....
@hairedesigned3833
@hairedesigned3833 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Spot on. I wanna here something more actual EVH 90s tone, or something jazzed up. Not just straight chugging.
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
I want the chugs haha
@ZachWish
@ZachWish 4 жыл бұрын
Yes bud! Thanks for posting. If I had to choose, I'd go EL34 but both sound great.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Zach
@eguilherme1
@eguilherme1 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thanks for doing this. I’ve only owned the 50w versions of these (6L6 & EL34), but you’re making me want to try the 100w versions. They both sound great, but I Prefer the stealth.
@loser5486
@loser5486 5 ай бұрын
which one did you prefer? I currently have the Stealth 50 watt but I feel myself feeling fomo
@verruckterwissenschaftler
@verruckterwissenschaftler 2 жыл бұрын
Most thoughfully presented and best comparrison video I have seen ever, well done, that snappy bite with the 34s is amazing, even on iPad speakers. Thinking I will wait for the EL34 amp to be available.
@mikekopmanis2099
@mikekopmanis2099 3 жыл бұрын
Best comparison by far between the two. Was thinking of going after the EL34, but you changed my mind with the full Plexi example and slightly more edge of the 6L6.
@SeanPierceJohnson
@SeanPierceJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Dammit...came here to decide which I liked best. Left wanting both. DAMN YOU CHIPPY!!! 😤
@odinskolnationragnar9528
@odinskolnationragnar9528 3 жыл бұрын
I bought El 34. sounds to me abit punchier
@Paincakes
@Paincakes 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, though personally I would have preferred without the delay / reverb to really hear what's going on. Cheers!
@MatthiasBuesing
@MatthiasBuesing 4 жыл бұрын
I second that. Differences would have been much clearer...
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Delay and reverb don't change the tone.
@jfrog1979
@jfrog1979 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, I like hearing it in a real world kinda setting that it would be being used in🤘🎸
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
Disagree…most people are gonna play clean with some verb. Would rather hear it this way.
@johnsguitarmusicanddemos
@johnsguitarmusicanddemos Жыл бұрын
Disagree but the effects were good to play Van Halen riffs. However, to get a good perception…. purely clean would be good.
@kebotrans
@kebotrans 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for the video Alex. The Clean is great on the EL34 for sure. The Blue and Red channels are actually closer than I thought. I would have to go EL34 if I had to choose. However, that pushed green channel on the Stealth is amazing for what it is. 👍🏼
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
I do prefer the EL34 but for Balance tones it’s hard to beat the 6L6.
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 9 ай бұрын
Have owned both…kept the stealth. I just find it to be slightly clearer and brighter sounding. The el34 was a bit darker and maybe a touch fuller sounding, but I thought they sounded damn near the same and the el34 sells for more used. The 6l6 I can get clean by lowering the gain to less than one and compensating with volume knob.
@divebomb99
@divebomb99 Жыл бұрын
My two cents- 12AY7 in V1, V2, and V4 of the Stealth. Can still do molten gain all day long, but the whole amp is far more usable and the cleans clean up if you want them to. Love the channel 'Chippy!
@jroc6166
@jroc6166 Жыл бұрын
Getting my Stealth back today. May try a 12at7 to tame the clean channel a bit.
@divebomb99
@divebomb99 Жыл бұрын
@@jroc6166 I had a chat with the designer of the amp a few years ago, Howard Kaplan, specifically asking about how to simmer down the gain. He told me to *not* use 12AT7's. He recommended 12AY7's or 12AU7's. I didn't ask why regarding the 12AT7. My basic understanding is that the 12AT7 is better suited to stages that serve reverb and vibrato, like in a Deluxe Reverb, not so much for gain stages. For some reason "the internet" has latched on to the idea that the 12AT7 is the go-to gain reduction tube (I thought so too for a long time) but there are other options. A 5751 might be a good choice as well. Either way, have fun!
@davidetorriglia1994
@davidetorriglia1994 3 жыл бұрын
Today I have received my new stealth 100. I like this better than standard version. I use this with matching cabinet from Evh. First: clean channel with Strat or split pickup is very good! Maybe not too much headroom in comparison with second and third channel, but very surprised about this! Second channel is better for me ( less vintage). Third channel is very good. In general I like the depth on the rear... for me a very good amp like the original but with some different sounds. Maybe too much compression but in line with the type of amp. I hope this will help some of you. Dave
@mikepadgett8522
@mikepadgett8522 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. I’ve always wanted to hear these amps side by side. Just purchased the EL34 model and should be here today. Very excited about getting it. Love when you cranked the green channel. These are really do all amps! Again thanks 👍
@Johnfedele14331
@Johnfedele14331 Күн бұрын
Would just like to say thank you for not playing drop tuned riffs and actually playing some Van Halen through an EVH lol sounds killer dude!
@GamePR0grammer
@GamePR0grammer 2 жыл бұрын
Played Stealth and EL34 50w in guitar center today. I actually liked the EL34 a bit better. Sounded deeper/fuller with more tone. Stealth sounded snappier and a bit more clear, but I felt it was missing some of the mid to low end. Both sounded great but I think the EL34 is maybe a more well rounded amp with more tones. The blue channel on El34 was a little less clear but it didnt sound bad by any means. It would sound perfect if you were playing some Deftones or something like that. Anyway I think I might be ready pull the trigger on an EL34. Been listening to a lot of videos doing a bunch of research. Thanks for the great comparison vid!
@snowcache
@snowcache 2 жыл бұрын
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@VioletSerenade
@VioletSerenade 2 жыл бұрын
i’m buying a 5150 for Deftones style metal so that comment just solidified it for me haha
@PatrickAshe41
@PatrickAshe41 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for playing some EVH on EVH ;) so many other demo vids are just doing extreme and other genres that I'm just into (or maybe listening, but not playing). And I like the delay/reverb effects because I use them 95% of the time, haha. Good stuff. Thanks!
@dedespedida4515
@dedespedida4515 2 жыл бұрын
Same here 👍🏻
@runxzze123
@runxzze123 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the 6L6 VS EL34 50 watt versions
@codyconrad7333
@codyconrad7333 4 жыл бұрын
I own the El34 212 combo. I love it. Its mean and clear.
@mindtricky
@mindtricky 4 жыл бұрын
The stealth is 6L6.
@metallion0738
@metallion0738 3 жыл бұрын
Stealth sounds better, I saw a review of these two.
@AlexGifford5150
@AlexGifford5150 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the EL34 has more of a soundscape in the high gain setting. I was hearing a little bit tighter sound with the 6l6. Regardless they both sound absolutely amazing.
@ambrooks5
@ambrooks5 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. I think the el34 is great for down-tuned stuff. It just seems to come alive more. But you’re right they both kickass!
@SlinkyT82
@SlinkyT82 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison demo brother! Thanks for sharing. This just reminds me how great they both sound and to my surprise how close they sound to each other. At the end of the day you can't go wrong with either. Happy New year and hope all is well!
@markslist1542
@markslist1542 3 жыл бұрын
My gosh they both sound amazing.
@BPToneReview
@BPToneReview 3 жыл бұрын
As for the Green channel the schematic shows on the 100S 6L6 is more like a hot rodded black face Bassman with the normal Fender tone stack EQ. Blue is most definitely formulated from the Bogner XTC there's no doubt about that but the Treble taper is Linear and not Audio tapers like the XTC. Red channel is SLO all the way but with a tad less bass in the preamp and with an extra gain stage compressing it more. Again this is all according the the Fender EVH schematic 100S 6L6 version. EL34 schematic isn't available to the public yet. They are fantastic amps and I've owned and still own a hell of a lot in the last 22 years.
@lovingpeace9715
@lovingpeace9715 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great comparison. I went with the EL34 version. For me a 3 channel amp should have a proper clean channel and I like the bite of the blue and red channels. All my other amps use EL34s and its what I am use to.
@davemcafeeguitar
@davemcafeeguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the comparison. To my ears, the EL34s are a tad bit punchier with a little more girth. The 6L6s are silkier and smoother. I love them both equally, but I like the look of the 6L6 Stealth better. Not a fan of the gold they used in the EL34 model. Both are killer amps for the money.
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths 3 жыл бұрын
agree in fact for bang buck the EVH amps are great value.
@mikew9788
@mikew9788 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Always wished you vids were longer because they are so good. I'm real close to buying the 6l6 stealth. I'm super excited that james brown is now the head designer at evh.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough run into him this week at NaMM and I got to ask him all these geeky questions... he’s really nice !
@danielsalcido3467
@danielsalcido3467 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! I had the 50 watt 6L6 and it always sounded kinda "hollow/slightly scooped" but brighter in the top end. This video nicely illustrates the fullness of the mids of the EL34. Thank you for showing the capabilities of this amp cleaning up on the red channel, great playing too!
@PK22-b7v
@PK22-b7v 2 жыл бұрын
100% correct … I have thw 6L6 50W and I just played an EL34 and the EL33 kills the 6L6 … much better cleans that are punchy and thump … blue channel has much more lower end punch … red channels are both similar
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
The 50 watts are quite a bit different. The 100 watt 6l6 and el34 are a lot closer. The 100 watt stealth has alot more low end than the 50 watt, and the el34 100’s blue channel is not nearly as flubby as the 50 watt version.
@JDiamondMusic
@JDiamondMusic Жыл бұрын
I own the 100 watt stealth, I must say if you pull the Gain knob back it can clean up rather well. In this video it appears to be at almost 1 o'clock, pull it back a bunch and you might find a more satisfying result. Blue and Red channel I prefer the stealth as well.
@FlashGrover
@FlashGrover 4 жыл бұрын
wow that green channel on the Stealth!! you know Im thinking the Stealth has that 'bottom end' that im liking alot
@PK22-b7v
@PK22-b7v 2 жыл бұрын
The EL34 actually has much more punch and bottom end in a room setting
@jairocerritos3213
@jairocerritos3213 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison man! Although I've had other reasons why I bought mine, I bought the Stealth 6l6 100w and my friend just bought the EL34 100w! We agreed that our tones and playing style would blend better with the different heads!
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to choose because they are both awesome
@dedespedida4515
@dedespedida4515 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely el34 has more of that British feel, both are amazing but I'm glad you uploaded this video, 99% of the vids of this amps (specially the Stealth) just play way over the top on riffs with too much gain, and this amps you don't need it, I had the first evh 5150 3 and I played metal with gain on almost 3. Great video and comparison man!.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@rrguitar1
@rrguitar1 4 жыл бұрын
If they can take the green on the el34 and add that to the stealth to make the stealth a 4 channel amp...oh yeah !!! Both are sweet though.
@joeywilder9708
@joeywilder9708 Жыл бұрын
The EL34 clearly sounds tighter. I’ve been trying to decide which 1 of these to grab. I was set on the stealth but I don’t know now haha
@harshgarrett
@harshgarrett 10 ай бұрын
I have the EL34 and am selling my og 6L6 now because I just love the el34 so much never thought I’d ever sell it
@zombies418
@zombies418 Жыл бұрын
The one and only thing I wish evh did with their amps is add a master volume. The sound amazing but my god are they loud. Yes they have the lbx and 50 watt but you don’t get the same tone as the big 100 watts
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a good idea to use a fryette power station or boss Waza to get the most out loud amps.
@metalmeister3054
@metalmeister3054 Жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with either one but damn that el34 has bite!!!
@NikSampsonGuitar
@NikSampsonGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic; everything a comparison video should be. Count me a new subscriber. Thanks to you, I’ve decided to go with the 5150 IIIS EL34.
@markgooch1715
@markgooch1715 4 жыл бұрын
I think they are both Stealth, but one is 6L6 and one EL34. I love and prefer your “in room” clips over recordings but your your recordings are great also well. In room always captures “the amps sound” better to me. EL34 EVH has a bit more mods. Both sound great! I didn’t like the 50w EL34 in the blue channel at all when I played it, but you make this 100w sound amazing. Shit, is this mic’d??? Maybe it’s not in room. Regardless, this is one of my fave vids you’ve done! You’re a great player. Thanks for sharing with us!!
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
I think in room clips are great but not very helpful when you are trying to really hear something under a microscope. I was using the Boss Waza TAE for this comparison. Thanks for watching 🤘🏻
@williamdenner3942
@williamdenner3942 3 жыл бұрын
You can also remove the capacitor in the el34 to give it more mids to sound like stealth.
@PainterDans
@PainterDans 11 ай бұрын
I think that’s only the 50watt
@VPB1218
@VPB1218 4 жыл бұрын
Prefer the look and sound of the EL34 amp head. The stealth is cool being all black, but white/black and gold are my favorite color combos
@johnsguitarmusicanddemos
@johnsguitarmusicanddemos Жыл бұрын
Good demo!
@jamesnorton7601
@jamesnorton7601 3 жыл бұрын
34 sounds better to me. So I'll guess I'll have to buy that one. Thanks for the review. I was having a hard time choosing.
@vintagetrk
@vintagetrk 2 жыл бұрын
Man after this review I'm really torn between the two. The 6L6 is like you say creamier while the 34 is more crisp.
@ambrooks5
@ambrooks5 2 жыл бұрын
I hear that. I was set on the 6l6 at first but the more I listened to videos the el34 just sounded better for my style of music. You really can’t go wrong with either though. Great stuff!
@vintagetrk
@vintagetrk 2 жыл бұрын
@@ambrooks5 I ended getting both mostly cause I'm a gear whore but I love the tones both these amps offer.
@classicalguitarchase
@classicalguitarchase 3 жыл бұрын
I have been searching out the MK III 6L6 vs the MK III EL34 couldn't find one so......... I had the 6L6 already and just picked up the EL34, Love them both. The EL34 so far is winning in the pristine clean, (a little more sparkly).
@trainofthough0242
@trainofthough0242 Жыл бұрын
The EL-34 version is far more versatile and has more dynamic range in tones. Not to mention it's the only version of the 5150 with a decent clean channel. The 6L6's are more one-trick-pony's and just have the good gain channels but the EL-34 doesn't sacrifice any of that either. With simple EQ changes and pedals, you can make the EL-34 sound like any amp you want it to be, it's just so much more responsive to EQ. Whenever I had the 6L6 5150's, I always felt stuck in a box with tones but now that I have the EL-34, everything has opened up and possibilities in tones are just endless. Whatever kind of tone you need, the EL-34 version has it. I have no problems saying it's the best version of the 5150. Just the only thing with Fender/EVH is the quality control is awful and only getting worse from what I hear these days so the moment you get a 5150 shipped to your door, replace all the tubes with higher quality ones and give it a once-over for any poor solder joints and anything else that looks wrong with the electronics. If you can't do that yourself then take it to a reputable tech to do it for you. It'll save you agony later on, trust me.
@wadd8769
@wadd8769 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear it without the delays and such
@motorcityaxeman7059
@motorcityaxeman7059 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great comparison….thank you !
@KeepAnOpenMind
@KeepAnOpenMind Жыл бұрын
I just cant stop thinking both of these are just great, perfect, perhaps, the best. I am not trying to be a fanboy here. But the sound is just too good in both. It is different but neither of these is better or worse. It should be something depending on your mood, or what you want to play. The 6l6 is more cold and clean and bright, el34 is has a punchier low and mid and is like a bitchslap to you when you are having a hangover. It is just impossible to make a wrong choice here. It is almost like choosing a color, neither of the colours we see is best or worst, it is all about using them, combining them, playing with them. This is what is called being creative. Music is an art, and any sort of art can be done with any sort of instrument. And when it comes to instruments, these two are just ridiculously good.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Two awesome flavors.
@MKRISING75
@MKRISING75 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome demo just found this video shame on me!If I had the money I’d take both they sound killer!!Rock on 🤟🏻
@scottpeters4401
@scottpeters4401 4 жыл бұрын
I think they both sound amazing....I have the 6L6 50 watt version of these amps....Just got the Waza TAE a few weeks ago to go with it...best sound I have ever had...I may have to check out the el-34 next....Hard to beat these amps...Great video..Thanks!!
@jayteesgear
@jayteesgear 4 жыл бұрын
you rock brother! thanks for this. Im lookin at the new 50 watt version. sounds like it would be creamier than the EL I already have.
@schlagdog
@schlagdog 4 жыл бұрын
I like the clarity of the EL34 gain but I would rather have the Stealth green channel that is broken up more because I never use a clean channel ever.
@rrguitar1
@rrguitar1 4 жыл бұрын
That broken up green on the stealth is pure magic.
@mikew9788
@mikew9788 4 жыл бұрын
I like that channel too. Sounds like a good ac/dc channel
@guitardave
@guitardave 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for doing this! I’ve just got the new EL34 1x12 Combo, and the clean isn’t as clean as your 100w head. Great amp though, really pleased with it :-)
@PK22-b7v
@PK22-b7v 2 жыл бұрын
Put it through a 2x12 cab with higher wattage speakers (eg 2 x V30’s) and the clean will be punchy, fat and very clean with gain at 12 o’clock
@guitardave
@guitardave 2 жыл бұрын
@@PK22-b7v I ended up swapping out the tube in V1 for a 12au7, and it now sounds incredible with the gain turned to 3 o’clock - nice and fat, just on the edge of breakup with single coils. I’d recommend this to anyone else who had the same problem!
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 4 жыл бұрын
There has to be a mod for the Stealth. The 50 watt version fixes the clean channel. I just ordered a stealth 100... Having trouble finding info to fix that clean.. But the plexi Easter egg is pretty cool beans.. However, I'm not sure how much I'll use it. I actually didn't get this amp for evh type music, but more modern stuff.. My block has trwted me well for a lifetime, but needed something more flexible.. Looks like I opened a can of worms though! Need those mods! Oh yeah.. The 50 watt also changes something about the blue channel, but the stwrkest contrast is the green of course.
@RAGOG92
@RAGOG92 4 жыл бұрын
Roll back the gain on green channel and put volume high. More cleaner sound (especially on the stealth). I do the same on my EVH 5150 III 50 6l6 =) good vid!
@James3II3
@James3II3 3 ай бұрын
What FX are you Using dude. Sounds Great.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 3 ай бұрын
SDE3000 delay that is built into the Boss Waza Tube Amp Expander thx
@-EndlessNameless-
@-EndlessNameless- 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video and exactly what I was looking for! Think Im gunna get both, but maybe get the stealth first. I had the el34 50 watt and hated the blue channel, but then I got the 50 watt 6l6 and that is an amp I will never get rid of. can you please tell me what you used to AB these amps? this is how to do an amp comparison properly :)
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
I used a Mesa HeadTrack switcher
@-EndlessNameless-
@-EndlessNameless- 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockinchippy thank you so much....Ive been searching for an AB pedal for ages, but couldnt find one that carried over the effects loop! also was looking for a comparison on these 2 amps....today I found both things I was looking for thanks to your video....thanks again! :) you have got my sub mate
@brianbevers892
@brianbevers892 3 жыл бұрын
I demoed both amps today at Chondro guitars. You can absolutely get a pure clean sound out of the Stealth. Not chimney clean like the EL34 but clean.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 3 жыл бұрын
Randall probably removed a tube just to mess with you. Totally kidding ! I think it lacks the head room for pristine clean that most people prefer. Not sure why they made the channels different.
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
It can definitely be done. I set the gain to legit like less than 1 lol just enough to get it going and then compensate with volume. Can easily get a gig volume pristine clean with how much volume and headroom this amp has. You just have to set the gain comically low. Which is fine.
@KeepAnOpenMind
@KeepAnOpenMind Жыл бұрын
Just a piece of advice: please make sure you are loud enough next time. In this video you are heard as like whispering compared to how the guitar is loud. :)
@EXMORr
@EXMORr 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Lovin The EL34 !!
@240zzz
@240zzz 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to tweak the stealth to get rid of the upper bass tubby compressed sound. It's either the treble or presence it needs. Would like to hear either with a 4x12 with EVM speakers.
@J_Staub
@J_Staub 3 жыл бұрын
👏🏻 Awesome man! You are right, these things are legit.
@RHExperience103065
@RHExperience103065 4 жыл бұрын
I have the el34 very nice but leaning toward the stealth for sure
@ytb917
@ytb917 3 жыл бұрын
dood has a friedman amp lurking in the background, and maybe a marshall plexi under that. serious amp depth chart here!
@dnd820
@dnd820 4 жыл бұрын
Apples and oranges........they both sound great
@freedomfighter5054
@freedomfighter5054 4 жыл бұрын
You should show people how to play the guitar riffs be really good at it keep up the good work
@JohnnyBeane
@JohnnyBeane 4 жыл бұрын
Love both amps!
@PinchTune
@PinchTune 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the cleans on the EL34. How would you compare them to say a Mark V, a Lonestar or a good Fender clean? Also, did they fix the volume discrepancies between channel 1 and channel 2 that the older amps had. I heard that's a thing with the 50-watt versions that the 100-watter didn't have. I'm trying to decide between this, a Mark V:25/35 and a Friedman JJ Jr.
@trevorwesterdahl6245
@trevorwesterdahl6245 Жыл бұрын
EVH never liked a channel that was clean with volume up. He always wanted crunch or heavy gain with it up, but clean with it down. You'd think volume down equals quiet. Nope, equals clean. When you match one of his guitars with his pickups and pots, it all works perfect. Guitars with P-90s naturally work the same and sound awesome too. Fairly certain he almost never used green channel...why he didn't care about the volume jump flaw.
@BradPham
@BradPham 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great demo.
@nedocaster
@nedocaster Жыл бұрын
I know this was a couple years ago, but how would you compare the evh 5150 III 's to something like the Suhr PT100? I've owned a PT100 and wish I had kept it, but I've been looking at EVH recently. Thanks
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy Жыл бұрын
There’s two versions of the PT100 but Suhr amps and EVH amps are so different that it’s a little difficult to compare. I’ll leave you this little nugget: I owned both versions of the PT100, sold them both. I have both versions of the 5150iiiS and will never sell them.
@nedocaster
@nedocaster Жыл бұрын
@@rockinchippy That says a lot. if you had to pick 1, el34 or stealth?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy Жыл бұрын
@@nedocaster EL34
@darrennwalters5189
@darrennwalters5189 3 жыл бұрын
The EL34 sounds so sick!!!!
@4142Wilb
@4142Wilb 4 жыл бұрын
A musicians Sophie’s choice but I ended up going with the Stealth 6L6GC
@TheGgreen100
@TheGgreen100 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I'm also trying to choose. What made you go for the 6L6? Did you get a chance to play the EL34 version? Are you happy with your decision to get the 6L6?
@4142Wilb
@4142Wilb 4 жыл бұрын
I tried a 50w EL34 @ GC once, it rocked but to my ears and feel it didn’t have that umph I needed to hear. With a 6L6 I got what I wanted. I’m not a “clean” guitar type. I want dirt, fizz, growl all the time. The stealth for me offered that. Rebias the “cold” setting from the factory. Put a Tungsol 12ax7 in V1, GT ECC83-S in V2 and a JJ 12ax7 in V4 everything else preamp is stock. Run Celestion V30 & Creamback 75 into 212 combo and it rips.
@horustubes
@horustubes 4 жыл бұрын
I have this amp. The gain and volume positions for clean need to be switched. Gain at 9 o'clock and volume 12 o'clock or higher.
@nathanielpersohn600
@nathanielpersohn600 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was great!
@freedomfighter5054
@freedomfighter5054 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison I’ve been waiting for somebody to video like this buddy I wonder if you can get that AC/DC tone out of that ampOr what would you recommend that can take you from AC/DC to higher game
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you would need low output pickups and just lower the gain on the blue channel.
@freedomfighter5054
@freedomfighter5054 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that with higher output lower the volume I got a JB in Duncan distortion and day bareknuckle aftermath in an ESP Gibson Les Paul shape one pick up some artist model from somebody I got a lower gain on my amp
@davidetorriglia1994
@davidetorriglia1994 3 жыл бұрын
Next week I will have my Stealth 100.... I want to ear differences with standard 5153 6l6, xtc 101b and Cae Pt100. 😍
@59plexi
@59plexi 3 жыл бұрын
i like the el34 bite....both are killer...but you gotta have the bite to cut thru.....slap a BBE in the signal for a lil push
@oscarmike4888
@oscarmike4888 4 жыл бұрын
The answer is simple... you need them both.
@PK22-b7v
@PK22-b7v 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been awesome to also have the standard 6L6 head to compare as well … that would have been a trifecta
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have the OG white 5150iii and it’s crazy how low gain the Blue channel is.
@mikeflanders1292
@mikeflanders1292 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned 5 el34 amps, sold them all. I currently own 3 tube amps, that I would NEVER sell. They are all 6l6..... Not on purpose. I guess I just prefer the 6l6 sound. Always thought el34 was to flubby, and something a grandpa would play. They just aren't tight enough
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 4 жыл бұрын
Do you drop tune? What tuning? 6l6 is usually the jam for drop tuning.
@mikeflanders1292
@mikeflanders1292 4 жыл бұрын
@@XChristianNoirX no. I stay in E standard
@trainofthough0242
@trainofthough0242 Жыл бұрын
The EL-34 sounds flubby at low volumes, you gotta crank 'em to really get the full sound out of it and hear how fast that flubbiness tightens up and goes away when cranked louder and sounds even better than the 6L6's. That goes for any amp really, the louder you crank them the better they sound. Or just get an EQ pedal and take the flubbiness out when playing at low volumes which is what I do with my EL-34 and use an attenuator so I can crank it high without annoying my whole neighborhood.
@metallion0738
@metallion0738 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you use a chorus pedal on the green channel or clean channel from both amps, is hard to judge the clean channel if a pedal is added, just saying bro, however I like your review of these two beasts of amps bro.
@Kenman540
@Kenman540 4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the EVH 6CA7 to get the original tones....Just kidding great video Alex!
@BillDerBerg
@BillDerBerg 3 жыл бұрын
Just takes a little rebiasing
@paigeguitarplayer
@paigeguitarplayer 3 жыл бұрын
hmm i think the bottom end on the 6l6 is cleaner imo both are sick. and has that marshall plexi dna but damn i want a stealth head so bad i have the original 5150 and love it but it has a crazy amount of bottom end and i dont like adding external eq and overdrive. but damn that 6l6 sounds badass with that reverb and delay however i think the el-34 has a smoother clean tone. but love both. but i like the 6l6 better. i think its the best amp out there for rock and metal.
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 3 жыл бұрын
I think what’s cool about these is that you can own both and really treat them as different amps. They really have their own personalities.
@paigeguitarplayer
@paigeguitarplayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockinchippy exactly! all depends on your guitar wood/pikcups amp settings and what your playing too.
@dracandros
@dracandros 2 жыл бұрын
great video 💪 thank you
@josephbutler148
@josephbutler148 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate just subscribed love your work. Can u tell me if the el34 lacks any punch on the red channel compared to the 6l6?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 2 жыл бұрын
They both have the same resonance circuit so you’ll have plenty of punch on either amp. Both are absolute beasts.
@pwnEdge1
@pwnEdge1 4 жыл бұрын
I like the el 34 version, abit more cutting in a good way ,but the 6l6 sounds good too ,guess we need them both :-)
@musicalwolf1080
@musicalwolf1080 4 жыл бұрын
great vid. i just ordered the 50s 6l6 the new one, can't wait :)
@stephenwinchester6668
@stephenwinchester6668 Ай бұрын
What cab are these going through?
@aryinc
@aryinc 3 жыл бұрын
6l6 sharper sounding. el34 warmer sounding. both will do great for those 80ts metal tones.
@franciscopimenta9089
@franciscopimenta9089 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! This is a beast inside a box!
@spy590
@spy590 4 жыл бұрын
Both sound killer! What cab are you running through (or load/ir)?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Boss Waza Tube Amp Expander ... using the Friedman 412 model
@spy590
@spy590 4 жыл бұрын
rockinchippy man, the TAE sounds fantastic. thanks!
@ContentFromHell
@ContentFromHell 4 жыл бұрын
i bet you use the TAE on this demo :) great vid men i own the same stealth model and i wondered a long time what amp choosing i guess later i ll get an EL34 because yeah both amps are great and EL34 was already on my wish list (but i conldn't let a stealth special run going out of my hands ;) )
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Yup using the TAE
@ContentFromHell
@ContentFromHell 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockinchippy what amp switcher are you using ?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
ContentFromHell Mesa Head Track
@ContentFromHell
@ContentFromHell 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockinchippy I just got a TAE really owesome with stealth i really love that
@seane1081
@seane1081 4 жыл бұрын
They both sound great! Though would turning the gain down more on the clean channel of the stealth make it more "fendery"?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Not really
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
I own it and you definitely can. Just have to turn the gain to like 1 or less and compensate with volume. I strummed hard with a Les Paul custom neck humbucker and no breakup. And LOUD. Just requires extreme settings on the gain knob.
@fullmetalsal
@fullmetalsal 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Passive cab or Waze TAE or Reactive Load?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Waza TAE
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths 3 жыл бұрын
I have KT88 tubes in my Bogner Uberschall TJ and EL34 tubes in my Mezzabarba MZero. I much prefer tone of the EL34 tubes even though they get a lot of hate for some odd reason.
@johnnywomack548
@johnnywomack548 4 жыл бұрын
What delay and/or reverb did you use for this video? I like it!
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
I’m using the BOSS SDE-3000 that is inside the BOSS WAZA TAE. But it’s also in the DD-500 pedal.
@marcelojulio
@marcelojulio 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing bro !
@DemonKingOFFICIAL
@DemonKingOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
EL34 all day wow
@pwestcott
@pwestcott 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I'm liking the el 34 a bit better. What guitar and cab are you using?
@rockinchippy
@rockinchippy 4 жыл бұрын
Using a Suhr with Arcane Phil X Super 8. Amp is going into a Boss Waza Tube Amp Expander running a Friedman 412 simulation.
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