EVH D Tuna vs Tone Vise Pitch Shifter

[@Mordra]

Thanks! In my place the Tone Vise is more available than the EVH strangely enough, so knowing is a better option for a Floyd system with a cavity is perfect! Thanks again for the insight!

[@Jerminator1984]

This is great. I’d never heard of the Tone Vise. I love the idea of being able to have a Floyd Rose guitar and alternate between standard and drop tuning. On top of that I can pitch shift down if I want. This makes a guitar very versatile.

[@monstarockband]

I agree 100%!

[@nimitz1739]

Me ether. Definitely going to get one

[@moneortiz1614]

Thank you man, you just solved a huge doubt I had about what guitar I may buy. Thanks again bro.

[@monstarockband]

Always glad to help!

[@Mendethzo]

I’ve been looking for a video like this. Thnx Here in Chile, is very difficult too, to get that one, only import. Newly, gracias for the information.

[@boyraisedinhell6307]

I am curious about the pitch shifter. Is it okay to completely let the Floyd float or is it recommended to have a tremol-no?

[@monstarockband]

Yes, you can leave the Floyd floating with a tone-vise. You don't need a trem-stop and you don't have to worry about it interfering with the cavity when you're pulling up.

[@SETIxy]

nice kelly.. love the finish. ive never seen that one up close. i own two kellys. 2005 ke3 black on black and a new js32T in snow white. my ke3 has a real floyd. setup in eflat with barely enough room to hit a drop d. im gonna look in this floyd mod. my buddy has something simliar on his rickenbacker bass works great.

[@monstarockband]

The Kelly is a great guitar! The cracked mirror is very cool.!

[@SETIxy]

well shit now i want one lol

[@kaoe145]

If I install this would I only be able to have the Floyd fully floating while in drop tuning and dive only when I use the d tuna to switch to standard tuning I really like the concept and I’m interested in getting one I just had this one question I need answered before I pull the trigger so to speak

[@monstarockband]

You will be able to pull up or dive bomb in both Drop D or standard tuning... the tone-vise stays within the existing Floyd cavity so it works both ways. I wasn't able to pull up on the bar with a D-Tuna because it extended past the routed Floyd cavity. Best of Luck!

[@jamesmoses4066]

@@monstarockband apparently even if you route out a cavity, you still can't use the d tuna with a fully floating trem. Something about how Floyd Rose's work would make it if your trem was fully floating and you switch to drop D, it will be out of tune because of the way the guitar balances itself. In order to use it, you have to block the trem.

[@jamesmoses4066]

@@monstarockband would you mind explaining to me what a stabilizer is? How does it change the Floyds natural function? What is a tremol no and tremsetter?

[@monstarockband]

@@jamesmoses4066 Hi James, a trem stopper is an adjustable "stop" that keeps the Floyd level. You can push down on the bar for dive bombs but can't pull up because the trem stopper stops you from pulling up. If you break a string, the trem stopper keeps the rest of the strings in tune instead of throwing everything out because of the unbalanced string/sping tension. Hope this helps! Cheers!

[@monstarockband]

@@jamesmoses4066 I've guitars with a D-Tuna with a full floating trem that I routed out a cavity for the D-Tuna and it worked for me. It's just not cosmetically appealing to have a trough carved into the top of your guitar. That's why I prefer the tone-vise.

[@damnedsaint5463]

I have a Jackson RRX24 with a floyd rose special, and want to get one of these. But ive been hearing very mixed reviews, and not really sure if i should lol. Some say that they work good and others say that they work for a little while and then mess up. Can you offer any insight to make a purchase of the Tone Vise seem like a good idea?

[@edgyswordsmanmanga4051]

How much have you used the tone vise? I love the concept, and I’ll probably get a tremmory to go along with it, but Im worried about the durability/longevity.

[@monstarockband]

I've had the tone-vise in 4 of my guitars for close to a year. I haven't had any issues with them at all. Everything still works great!

[@edgyswordsmanmanga4051]

@@monstarockband someone elsewhere told me the fine-tuners do the same thing- so now Im wondering if I should just get a tremmory and call it a day, or get a tremmory and a tone vise.

[@ToaNaterFilms]

@@edgyswordsmanmanga4051 get both

[@edgyswordsmanmanga4051]

@@ToaNaterFilms do you have any experience with them?

[@ToaNaterFilms]

@@edgyswordsmanmanga4051 nope but I’m hearing a lot of people preferring the tone vise. I’m planning on getting one soon and if you really want my honest opinion I’ll try to find this comment and tell you how it goes

[@spchaledonnj68]

Do you need to block the floyd so that it only pushes down only with the tone vice pitch shifter? Since I am guessing of it was set to go both floating it couldn't utilize drop d tuning?

[@karlburbage8014]

I have a Jackson JS32 Kelly. I can’t use the Tone Vice as the screw it comes with is fraction too short and the adjuster barrel doesn’t quite clear the fine tuner shelf on the floating bridge.

[@monstarockband]

That's unfortunate. I haven't had any issues with them at all so far on any of my guitars.

[@CyberSoulLover]

Nice video. I’ve owned both and I have to say d tuna. I don’t know if I got a lemon with the pitch shifter but it worked well for a few weeks. Then randomly it stopped staying in tune. The finish was chipping away from the use too which could be part of it. Love my d tunas

[@monstarockband]

They both work great! Thanks!!

[@edgyswordsmanmanga4051]

I really like the concept of the Tone Vise, but I hesitate because I read some negative reviews about longevity and durability.

[@CyberSoulLover]

@@edgyswordsmanmanga4051 have you seen other negative ones? Mine worked good like I said for a few weeks then I noticed it was wearing out and showing under the paint. My d tuna has some wear on the finish but it still operates fine and that’s like after a year of heavy use. Tone Vise just seems somewhat cheaply made from my experience

[@edgyswordsmanmanga4051]

@@CyberSoulLover some written reviews if I remember right. I dunno. Its been a while. Regardless, I hesitate. Im debating whether to get a tremmory plus a d-tuna (routing to let it float) instead of a tremmory plus a tone vise. It might take some work, but Id be willing to do it if it means it wont wear out with heavy use. D-tunas can float/pull up if theres extra routing and a trem stabilizer, right?

[@CyberSoulLover]

@@edgyswordsmanmanga4051 you could always try the tone Vise first and see. Maybe you might have better luck than me and others. Yeah the d tuna you will have to route out the body to be able to pull up. ESP actually does that on a few models so you could always take some pics of that and reference it twitter.com/loosecannonlnge/status/1226144352151277568?s=21 I actually have that setup on one of my guitars but mine is a trem stopper. But with a trem stabilizer I could totally pull up. I would definitely go the d tuna route way. Once you get them set up properly they are perfect

[@kaoe145]

But which one retains tuning better when switching back in forth between standard and drop tunings

[@monstarockband]

The both work really well staying in tune once they are setup. The tone-vise is easier to tune because it uses the existing Floyd fine tuner. If the EVH needs adjustment, you have to use a tiny Allen key which works, but isn't the most user friendly. Thanks!

[@stellarnourishment]

So you don't have to block the trem when using the Tone Vise? Many have said that you have to.

[@tonevise3834]

Yes, that's one of the reasons I invented The Treminator Super Stabilizing System. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZfQiaJ_bqtmfpY

[@PopPop_2]

I bought the Tone Vise. Couldn't get it to work right. It now sits in a box on my workbench.

[@jasonpost1771]

I heard with the tone vise you can’t use the fine tuner? Like it gets in the way or something is this true??

[@kenwhetham8711]

You can use the fine tuner with a tone vise

[@dr.dawshy8211]

If i have the pitch shifter and install an stabilizer system (like the tremmory, not a tremol-no) when i have the pitch shifter activated, you can still use the tremolo to go up and down?

[@jbisch272]

did you ever try this? I wanna try it on my guitar but i'm not sure if it would work

[@dr.dawshy8211]

@@jbisch272 not yet :(, but i think it should work, blocking the tremolo shouldnt, but thats why the stabilizer its more expensive, so, i think it should work

[@GeorgeBonez]

Does anyone know of or have a preference between the TV or EVH when installing on an Ibanez? My oldest Ibanez is a RG560 from the early 90’s and it’s the only one that has a REAL Floyd Rose. All of my JS series guitars have Ibanez trems (I think?) . My JS140 has a Edge Zero II I believe? I have a couple of JEM777’s but I think those are Ibanez branded trems too. If anyone has any expertise with putting either of these D-Tuna’s on an Ibanez or (non-Floyd Rose trem) please hit me up if ya have a free sec.

[@markhackett1420]

If it has the original version of the Ibanez Edge there is one made just for that trem.

[@Slashings]

Guys I have 2 questions can anyone help me? -can the d tuna move the string from only a half-step? -can I be used on another string the the top e? Say g string to tune like a baritone Thank you in advance 😊

[@monstarockband]

That's a great question. I have honestly never tried it so I don't have the answers but it would be interesting to try. I don't know why you couldn't try the D-Tuna on another string(s) if you wanted and I'm sure you can adjust the tuning settings with the fine tuner set screw. I don't have a D-Tuna on any of my Floyds at the moment, but you've raised my curiosity... I may have to do some tinkering!

[@Slashings]

@@monstarockband Thank you for taking the time to read and answer my friend! I don't see either shy it wouldn't work on the lighter strings I'm just wondering about the half step increment Live your videos, merry Christmas to you and your relatives (:

[@markhackett3689]

You can set the Pitch Shifter to drop a 1/2 step.

[@MrGul]

Atrocious audio and video quality! I couldn't stand more than 30 seconds before I had to turn it off because the background noise and "nasal telephone frequencies" were grating my ears, and the video is just a blurry mess, especially around the guitar and floor to the right.