Benante vs. Lombardo

Taken 9-7-2012 at Metal Masters 4 at the Gramercy Theater in NYC

[@whatwouldhousedo5136]

Charlie is the most criminally underrated drummer out there. He's been KILLING IT for decades and hardly gets mentioned.

[@hmpz36911]

Ikr? If I had my pick of drummers to record with, he'd be my first choice.

[@CampQwitchaBitchin]

Amen brother! A-fucking-men! Being a drummer I have no problem saying Charlie Benante is the best Heavy Metal drummer ever!!!

[@nmac3718]

I loved the cannibal reference he did

[@akidk1499]

He pioneered Blast beats!!! That's something

[@paganjay1085]

He's been blowing minds since 1984. Everyone knows how good he is.

[@NarMattaru]

4:38 Hammer Smashed Face, dude!

[@pendekarnkri7878]

Charlie benantie is win

[@joshkaye5303]

Jim Carey dancing

[@zyriuz2]

I don't know really yes charlie wins on the reference from the recording but i do think Dave could give it a nice version if he ever played that live with cannibal corpse

[@ileanasantamaria2364]

Dave is Slayer's sound. He's the engine. Stunning.

[@Schatje79]

Charlie wasn't staring him down and this was a more respectful battle of fun than anything else. Charlie is a respectful host but Dave, also respectful, decided to just follow Benante's lead. These are the best kind of drum-duets because it's not about out-doing the other drummer. It's about seeing if you can quickly build up something truly incredible with genuine chemistry. My 2 cents on this anyway.

[@kiekko673]

Schatje79 ”Drum battles” are never about competition. ✌️

[@randywissler9923]

Just skill respecting skill!!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@patriciahinkle7750]

EXACTLY right, thanks for understanding that fact...

[@elpfanjahrling4668]

I Concur Thant

[@theinsaneshecklador6598]

It looked like they were both having a ton of fun with this.

[@quantumysticlocustar9908]

Wow... at 4:06 Mr. Charlie Benante playing Sepultura - Breed Apart, at 4:20 Mr. Dave Lombardo played Judas Priest - Painkiller (with improvision perhaps) & then at 4:38 Mr. Charlie played Cannibal Corpse - Hammer Smash Face. Amazing! 🤘

[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

That wasn't painkiller.

[@quantumysticlocustar9908]

@@michakrzyzanowski8554 can you enlightened me what's song is it?

[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

@@quantumysticlocustar9908 probably none. He didn't even hit any of the crasher or the snare, which are very prominent in Painkiller's intro

[@jesserapkin2660]

when he starts "Criminally Insane," it's such a teachable moment because you really get to experience how less can be more and how the impact of a simple pattern can have such a profound and lasting effect. Two masters for sure.

[@mrbungle3310]

Exactly

[@jd0879]

Not really. It’s because he’s playing an iconic intro. If they played Painkiller it would’ve had the same reaction

[@MrJwinne]

Two fucking legends ! Charlie was meant for anthrax /SOD and Dave was meant for slayer . Will never choose one over the other ! Legends

[@randywissler9923]

But now Dave is full time in Testament, so the Metal Gods are indeed looking out for us!!!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@MrJwinne]

@@randywissler9923 absolutely brother !

[@luisemilianogonzalezvinces3400]

@@randywissler9923and now Charlie joint Pantera and is absolutelly killing it

[@metalben005]

​@@luisemilianogonzalezvinces3400 thats crazy to think. Dave gets Slayer and Testament. Charlie gets Anthrax and Pantera. Could these guys get anymore legendary?

[@philiplindner7293]

Definitely not meant for the Misfits 😂

[@LifeGrindcore]

3:07 Criminally Insane!

[@PETERODZZ]

Yhea.evrybody love that

[@BenDover-df7or]

I picked that song out also a classic😈😈

[@russkate88]

Yep. I got that too.

[@HugoRBMarques]

3:19 Indians

[@richardbinder9662]

Two great drummers. Charlie is also a riffmeister. He writes most of Anthrax's guitar parts. Thanks guys for telling me it's time to practice.

[@joddeurter2448]

also plays most of their guitar solos, best musician in Thrash

[@kronosb]

Plus his girl is Carla Harvey🤘

[@MrHellbringer213]

@Less Than Nothing... He's absolutely correct.

[@redrick8900]

@Less Than Nothing... You are wrong.

[@metalben005]

​​@@lessthannothing...2086Scott himself has stated that Charlie writes the bulk of the music

[@manfredmoreira263]

Imagine if every time they do double bass, they generate energy, it will probably turn all the lights in las vegas. 😂

[@Handles-R-Lame]

Do those lights even ever turn off? Maybe they are powering them secretly?🤔

[@marcosfernandezmartinez5284]

BOTH ARE AWESOME DRUMMERS.

[@mofometal93]

You mean both are the best

[@marcosfernandezmartinez5284]

@@mofometal93 Exactly

[@jensbaumann6945]

Gene Hoglan... nuff said But Who cares? They are all amazing... portnoy dee dupantier reinert all drummers in death cynic megadeth... Thanx for the music

[@yeetfeet1878]

Lars is just as good!

[@yeetfeet1878]

@@shubhaykalyani5316 cool for you! I’m actually laughing right now. People get soooo offended just when people insert their opinion. 😂.

[@johnpyle1268]

Dave will always be regarded as the most iconic '80's thrash drummer, and deservedly so. But I think Charlie might be my personal favorite. He's just fantastic.

[@patriciahinkle7750]

He is amazing, nothing but skill... But Lombardo can't be beaten by any other thrash drummers... If you wanna see something truly amazing look up george kollias or Derek roddy... They dont really play thrash but instead more death metal but still they're skills in terms of technically and speed is incomparable....

[@dosanddonts2919]

Love Dave, but Eric Moore was way better. Its an insult to his talent and to that of some other drummers to say lombardo's the best. Everyone who knows his drumming can clearly see this. Also check Ron Bruner vids with ST; also a lot better than Dave.

[@kennethsmith8968]

@@dosanddonts2919 who is eric moore?

[@jima6545]

Tied with Gar Samuelsson for me. Very different styles but on par talent wise

[@richharris9489]

Look him up on you tube

[@SuperStrik9]

Charlie is awesome. He writes most of Anthrax music and is a great guitar player as well as being an amazing drummer. Love that he plays some Hammer Smashed Face.

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

I just rejoicing that these two icon of metal drumming are still playing at their highest level. As life goes, we cannot take them for granted.

[@KickflipGnasty]

Amen. Two legends right here!!!

[@raybeez55]

this is a very fun video to watch 2 drum legends going at it.....and neither one was shown up by the other

[@Erichmustaine88]

buzzcrushtrendkill Only thing is this was almost a decade ago...

[@Tranarpnorra]

Man, two incredible drummers of the old metal genre working it out. Their names are severly underrated. Killers drummers overall in their own unique ways.

[@mr.mojorisin6402]

Camera pans left - Lars is crying in the back corner.

[@leonardokalinci9894]

🤣🤣

[@nikolaipadilla4281]

He makes like 82829191 millions so he doesnt give a fuck lol

[@mr.mojorisin6402]

Hey, a whole week and we have our first "Lars makes a lot of money lol" comment. Longer than I thought. I love Lars, he's a smart guy. If you can put very little effort into your craft, and still have a couple million Nikolai Padillas spend their money on it…. why not? As a musician I appreciate the craft, Lars bank account is not how I measure his drumming abilities.

[@leonardokalinci9894]

Wow! Comparing metal heads to nazis...?!? “Nice” one mate...

[@golfgrabu]

@@mr.mojorisin6402 Lars and drumming abilities are united by 1 word: minimal

[@davidnissim589]

No competition here. I like how they’re both playing each other’s drum parts.

[@robertmillnamow3723]

That's history right there 2 of the greatest metal drummers!!! Awesome!!!

[@di-jt6jp]

No competition here! Pure respect to each other as phenomenal drummers, for our entertainment. But seriously, best drummers ever!

[@remygaron8311]

Two of the best drummer in the world👏👏👏👏👏🥁🥁🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@bhodiemanit6489]

Eric moore, marco minneman, Gavin Harrison to name a few who are better than this two

[@russkate88]

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer ouch!

[@finrodgc3650]

Lars : how they can do that? 😂

[@kennytesta9312]

Charlie has always had more tools in his tool box than most metal drummers

[@ChrisValverde]

I've been a drummer for 30 some years and both these guys blow me away !!!

[@waynewells359]

Back when they were both young and physically in top peak drumming form, back in the 80s' .... I clearly believe that Charlie's double bass was the quickest out there. 🌪️

[@patriciahinkle7750]

I love them both as an extreme metal (thrash metal/ death metal/ black metal) drummer since the age of 11 but LOMBARDO all the way....

[@Wymiatatorex]

At 4:06 he started to play SEPULTURA - Breed Apart

[@erics.4113]

He sure did!! And I would to. That drum part is like starting a war

[@akidk1499]

I mean Benante pioneered Blast beats in Thrash Metal and Dave is responsible for his trade mark ultra fast double bass. Both are great drummers in the Thrash metal scene

[@rockeruss555]

What's "Blast beats"

[@DAVEDEATH1000]

@@rockeruss555 Fast as fuck drum beat using ultrafast snare hits. Think like the insanely fast Death Metal and Grindcore bands. Charlie didn't pioneer them. He was a couple years too late, but he loves to say he's the first to use them in the S.O.D song "Milk". But he was two years too late.

[@eaglebauer944]

@@DAVEDEATH1000 2 years? Tony Williams invented the blastbeat already in the late 70's.

[@murk4552]

@@eaglebauer944 the Thrash version is NOT the same as the Jazz version, definitely has aggression whereas the original style is done more in taste.

[@tattooedfrea]

I think Mick Harris of Napalm Death fame would disagree.

[@johnsaenz9254]

both are the best of the best both are beasts on drums

[@dangardace9]

That was cool! But with Dave playing the clear acrylic drums you can see more of his moves...that is extra cool! Both guys are different but equally awesome!

[@ralphdarc3094]

These two legends have nothing to prove . Just have a listen to their recorded respective catalogues . BEASTS

[@HuckFinn212]

Nothing really challening here, although the precision of Benante's footwork is remarkable and still developping...BUT of course both have a place in my heart and growing up with their music was more than fun!!!! Love 'em! Pioneers and Heroes!

[@evlrob884]

Charlie is Fast and Precise, But Dave is so Fluid! Both are killer. I give the edge to Dave! Awesome performance from the " Two Best" drummers of the Big 4.

[@patriciahinkle7750]

So TRUE... Idk if youre a drummer or not but as a drummer playing over half my life i can say you are ON POINT. Thank you...

[@stavrosmaiden]

You are forgetting the great Nick Menza from the best period of Megadeth! All three of them are brilliant drummers. In my opinion it's: 1. Lombardo 2. Menza 3. Benante But they are all so good that it's really up to personal preference I think!

[@akidk1499]

@@stavrosmaiden Gar Samuelson and Dirk Also Megadeth has had Fucking Vinnie Coalitua??? and Chuck Behler

[@stavrosmaiden]

@@akidk1499 Gar was for a shorter period of time so we only have 2 albums as samples! Vinnie was just a session drummer for "The system has failed" and I don't think he actually joined the band! Behler was ok but I don't think he can compare with Menza, Samuelson or DeGrasso...

[@stavrosmaiden]

@@mycareer2390 maybe!! I love them both

[@raybeez55]

these are 2 top notch drummers and neither one was shown up great display of talent from both

[@christschinwon]

You only have to listen to Anthrax's first album to know Charlie was already streets ahead in technique and innovation

[@metalben005]

Dave is ultra tight and precise while Charlie is more groovy and fluid. Both are fantastic drummers and a huge inspiration to me

[@disf5178]

You could easily swap names/styles and be just as accurate

[@BFNope]

I feel Dave has the edge with his hands, and Charlie with his feet. But again, someone else could say the exact opposite and I would be unable to argue with them. Both amazing drummers and those of us who grew up with them know how lucky we are

[@metalben005]

@@BFNope honestly they're pretty equal in hands. Compare the opening to Criminally Insane to Monster at the End from Anthrax's 2016 album. They're very similar

[@chickenblaster]

This made me very happy , two of my favorite drummers!

[@drake8168]

And to think that now in 2021 Dave is 56 and Charlie is 58 and both still drumming heavy is amazing.

[@omarvillarreal3850]

2 of my all time favorite drummers!!🥁

[@KickflipGnasty]

As a guitarist, if I could jam with any metal drummer I think I'd pick Charlie. Man, everything he does is so intentional.

[@Dankster-yo8xv]

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer but Dave plays for one of the best thrash bands; FUCKING SLAYEEEEERRRRR

[@shanegriffin2215]

Awesome that these 2 MONSTER players are still at the top of their game!

[@mazok8963]

Awesome drummers, dave and charlie are legends. Still kicking ass

[@bryanessing3344]

Charlie is absolutely brutal. Sound of White Noise was the best Anthrax album ever.

[@robertwalker3357]

Among the living is the best

[@skate_stunts7704]

SWN is a Bush album. Bush is where Anthrax went to die for 20 years. It's worse, its purgatory. Till Joey's return. Still, old sound is gone.

[@Auen73]

Well the audience sure won that day!.......What a treat to see and hear these 2 veteran metal drummers.....friends who elevated the craft of modern drumming to the highest standards. They are both on Fire!

[@goldenruletrainingandgroom5961]

That was fun. Two of the best drummers I've ever heard. I honestly can't think of anyone close to those two except maybe Gene Hoglan and Neil Peart. CB is a decent songwriter and guitarist too. I Love that guy.

[@jaysin6974]

Two of the Greatest drummers ever!

[@neilmurrell281]

Both outstanding drummers, never got to see Slayer but Dave is unbelievable, have seen Anthrax live and Charlie is the best I have ever seen personally. Love Keith Moon, Neil Peart and Bill Ward and these two are right up there.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

After Dom Famularo, these are the two founders of the very fast double bass drum technique. Dom taught them both and can still go faster, but these two invented thrash drumming. The guy from Kreator might be another.

[@TimmyGMusic]

Wow. My two fav drummers. Equally matched. Awesome!

[@biged359]

Both are amazing

[@harmonteron7010]

Charlie is killing it

[@jefjaeger]

Both such epic metal drummers. Cool to seen them hanging out together and sharing their talents...

[@XXXCRSPL]

They respect each other's abilities both Phenomenal

[@soulflower666]

Sounds like artillery - love it!

[@aboutthemetal8783]

The whole reason blast beats exist in metal is totally down to one of the guys on stage, and the reason we have mega fast double bass drumming is because of the other, these are truly the most pivotal players in the development of extreme metal, and some younger drummers out there don't have any idea of it.

[@DAVEDEATH1000]

Dude, Charlie used a Blast Beat in "Milk" by S.O.D in 1985... Eric Brecht used one in 1983 on D.R.I's "No Sense". Tell us again how Charlie caused them to exist in Metal...?

[@murk4552]

@@DAVEDEATH1000 Charlie innovated the "Skank Hammer Blast", whereas that other dude had an inconsistent basic blast. Punk bands weren't having technical drummers. Also Benante made that part of his actual style, not some random shit in a song.

[@DAVEDEATH1000]

@@murk4552 "Skank Hammer Blast"? I've listened to Metal since the '80's and never heard of that... Also, it's hardly part of his style- it's not as if he uses it all the time. I'm merely saying that I seen an interview where he actually said he was the first to use a "Blast Beat". Which of course, he simply isn't. No idea why you're mentioning Punk bands though... Regardless, Charlie's still one of my favourite drummers and one of the best in Metal.

[@leonardokalinci9894]

Two legends having fun. 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@markivoygoogy]

Been smiling the entire video from start to finish. love these two!

[@kaskade5909]

Sepultura - Breed Apart @ 4:06

[@KickflipGnasty]

Igor Cavalera man! Another metal drumming giant!!!

[@iantouzel638]

30 years of playing, two drumming legend, wonder how manny shows they've done in theyr life !

[@frank.l181]

Mr. Benante, is awesome metal drummer., His double bass speed is just as fast and accurate as dave Lombardo. He doesn't get the recognition he deserves!

[@jclevenger7580]

These guys were CLEARLY having a blast!!!Fantastic!!! Thanks For Sharing this video :) Mr. Benante and Mr. Lombardo, utmost respect and utmost gratitude for being two of my drumming heroes throughout my years of playing drums. Absolutely phenomenal!!! Thank You Very Much For The Tunes and Inspiration to strive harder as a musician.

[@noneavailable5515]

There's a vid of Charlie & John Tempesta throwing down for a few minutes at a store...I can only dream of the control those cats have🤘

[@miker5233]

They're both great they started around the early 80s

[@kiekko673]

mike r They both started playing way before early 80’s...

[@miker5233]

@@kiekko673 they started they were popular in the early 80s they started out playing when they were like 5 years old probably in the early seventies I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about it but I've been to the shows I'm almost 50 years old

[@bulelangbam3217]

Both are great drummer,i respect both,charlie is my fav...

[@johnnyroastbeef84]

Two of my all time favorites!!!

[@timoklabuster5065]

What a great competition, thanx for uploading...

Lombardo hands down the hardest fastest brutal thrash extreme metal drummer of all time

[@robertwalker3357]

Hoglan

[@rawkinj6609]

1:32 Lombardo loses his stick on that tom fill!

[@jd0879]

3:08 so iconic

[@NoCantsAllowed]

So Effing cool! Just don't see enough of this @ shows. Very sorry I missed this one!

[@Headbanger]

4:37 Hammer Smashed Face

[@Carriesaglock]

Yep I got that right away

[@frankkaplan69]

Dave playing Walk This Way then Charlie plays Lord of the Thighs.

[@dirtydave2691]

Cool. Two of my favorites.

[@freebee8221]

Dave grohl - hold my beer.. runs away in fear

[@christschinwon]

I knew he was a fast runner but carrying Lars as well!

[@mcmc1863]

@@christschinwon 🤣🤘🏻

[@yeetfeet1878]

Lars is just as good as both of them. And you are obviously not a drummer. Most technical doesn’t=best drummer

[@freebee8221]

@@yeetfeet1878 but dave isnt. he just hits hard

[@hmpz36911]

@@yeetfeet1878 Lars had his time where he was a damn good drummer, but it's in the past.

[@HRojasT]

Los mejores del thrash sin duda. Que par de maestros!!! 🤘🤘

[@richardolson5880]

Unreal! Class acts both of em!

[@protectchildrenatallcosts2652]

Third drum set for Will Farrell, please.

[@patriciahinkle7750]

Is that a joke? He cant compare to these legends... And YEAH ive seem him play, including his "battle" against Chad Smith. As a drummer from the age of 11 i can tell you Will Ferrell is good but nowhere NEAR these metal gods LOL!!!

[@avolite719]

Go somewhere else and shut up you ordinary fuck.

[@polishcowm7366]

Patricia Hinkle bro it was a joke

[@russkate88]

I was thinking Paul Bostaph.

[@chrisferguson1911]

Emojis were created so you could show your emotion or sarcasm and keep the know it all keyboard commandos at bay. There is always some dipshit out there, "Surely you can't be serious?" Well no, dumbass, he was joking. 👉🖕👈

[@MrMetalclay]

1:32 when Dave gets hung up on the tom with lots of force and it wobbles a bit. That had to hurt the hand.

[@ericmelton4630]

Pure brilliance each one leads the other in to the rhythm they want them to play so they can add to it what their not fast enough to play by theirselves. Great proformance

[@Paul-eu7gp]

Charlie for the win! So clean, powerful and technical.

[@nephrenqayin254]

Imagine both of them playing together 1 song of Slayer, Anthrax and S.O.D. I magine them playing together "Raining Blood", "Gung Ho" and "Charlie Don't Cheat".

[@EddieMaiden666]

Go Charlie🤘🏻🥁🤘🏻🥁🤘🏻🥁

[@massimopescatori6514]

two beautiful little beasts .... fantastic !!!!

[@devilsson6660]

And the winner is....the drummer🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@johnyboy19685]

They are both brilliant but I think Lombardo edges it with his slower stuff his fills and expression are more imaginative

[@damianramirez109]

Both are badass drummers .This is great.

[@MancPie]

Two drummers who influenced me massively. That was awesome.

[@artzo118]

John Bonham and Neil Peart smile from above. Also the title of this vid should be: Drummer Gods having fun.

[@GotLove4All]

Old school boys and girls "OLD SCHOOL"

[@runnningonempty]

seems like yesterday

[@johnsalmon7071]

Two masters! Love them both!

[@StevePhillips76]

The tale of two masters of their craft!

[@jujupancakes9310]

Of the Big 4 drummers... Charlie and Gar always had the most chops and were always smoother. Gar being Gar Samuelson from Megadeth. King of Thrash Metal Swing

[@richardcurtis1912]

Gar was a "Praying Mantis" behind the drums. Dude had such a swagger to his playing. It looked as if he was hardly moving when they played live. He played some of the fastest jazz/metal beats ever laid to vinyl!!! Any one that questions that, should have a listen to Killing is my Business, or Peace Sells. Gar had such a finesse and blended his playing in so well, sometimes you would lose him in the surrounding rhythms. His timing with the other instruments was that good. That's a jazz drummer for ya though! LoL R.I.P. Gar.

[@jujupancakes9310]

@@richardcurtis1912 you would really appreciate him doing a clinic or something like this. If Charlie is better now than he was back then-and he was killer back then-imagine a clean and sober Gar now. He'd be incredible!

[@KickflipGnasty]

What about Nick Menza???

[@jujupancakes9310]

@@KickflipGnasty total beast. I'm into that Friedman/Menza lineup even if Extinction and Youthanasia aren't very good imo. But he was a born metal drummer. Gar wasn't. By accident and/or by design Gar was an innovator. There weren't many jazz drummers doing metal when Megadeth got going.

[@russkate88]

@@KickflipGnasty Youthanasia was the first Megadeth album I purchased and even though the drumming isn't fast, technical or complex, it was perfect for that album and Nick had that nac for creating the perfect drum parts for the songs he was playing on. I was a fan straight away.

[@guillermocorreatedesco2011]

4:25 Painkiller

[@mantelmann13]

Not really.

[@MinervaMatt875]

Dave Lombardo's like fine wine the older he gets the better he is.

[@andreasleonlandgren3092]

No versus just equal greatness talent.

[@JC-hx6md]

The drum off between Charlie and John Tempesta in the MD festival is a sick one as well!

[@guillermocorreatedesco2011]

5:00 War Ensamble

[@rohantiwari7801]

3:40 Where Eagles Dare. Iron Maiden.

[@Mastercreek]

Both unbelievable. Lest we forget that Charlie played on Speak English or Die. His finest playing was on that album in my opinion

[@robertwalker3357]

And Dave played on Testament the gathering which is phenomenal

[@randywissler9923]

Game respecting game at it's utmost finest right there folks!!!!

[@dee9568]

Charlie stared Dave down the whole time.

[@ploppy9943]

I wouldn't have thunk it, but I think Charlie was the better drummer.

[@GreenGartside1989]

Yeah Charlie is awesome! Very underrated

[@bwgti]

Yeah - but Slayer has "Reign in Blood" Anthrax has the song about Indians and the Public Enemy cover. I am just kidding. Charlie and Dave are legends.

[@elevenAD]

Well he is, always was but Dave is also a Legend!