Was I wrong about Arcade1up?

[@mathewphillips4185]

I believe the arcade cabinets are really great, especially if you like that type of nostalgia, but I wouldn't bother with the table tops. I bought the big one for my wife for a gift and no matter what I did for with it for Life me could not get it to connect to the internet to download free games. Brought it back to Best buy. They did the same thing and end up sending it back cuz it would not connect. If you're going to give free games it should be installed already. So can you imagine getting an arcade one up standalone turtles game and have to download it???

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Sadly, I think downloading the games is a trend in all aspects of video gaming....

[@JeffMercedesC]

I have owned the Arcade1up Claw Machine for 3 weeks, and it still works well. I have had no problems with mine. I now own 16 Arcade1up machines and 2 full-size arcade machines. They all still look new and work well. I have been collecting arcade machines since Arcade1up started 6 years ago.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

That's good to hear Jeff!

[@roqueadeleon]

Volume is super low on this video man, tried watching on my tablet and couldnt hear it at all while I was washing dishes, tried again from my PC have to turn everything up and still at a pretty low volume

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Hmmm, I think it's gotta be on your end - I mix the audio crazy loud. Like on 0 I can still hear it on a Roku. Anyone else have this problem?

[@BeTheBallDanny]

@@evilgeniusentertainment No, I think he should turn his sink off to hear this rad vid!!

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

@@BeTheBallDanny I think that's the first time anyone said something I did was rad! To be fair, I usually am washing the dishes when I watch PD7's videos. Of course, his are much longer....

[@jeffd.1485]

i had the same issue. watched a few youtube videos and got to this one and could barely hear it unless i cranked my computer and browser volumes way way up.

[@roqueadeleon]

@@BeTheBallDanny have no issues with vids from other channels, typically can watch at around 75% and hear everything fine. I turned off my sink and was still way too low so had to save the vid for later. Watched on my PC at 100% on my headphones and PC and this vid was still about 50% lower in volume compared to other vids.

[@markracer3281]

I want more XL cabs like maybe Galaga would be sick...🙂 Thanks dude, for your most awesome channel!!!

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Thanks Mark! Yeah, I think f we're not going to see any more new titles, then seeing new XL with proven titles like STAR WARS and MKII makes a lot of sense... At least to us it does!

[@arcadetalk]

Getting back to basics can help a company get back on track!

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

You gotta be able to walk before you can run! Most people simply want some form of the "Big 5" classics, and A1up gives them that. Hopefully we'll some new titles or at least XLs of current releases.

[@tedadamgreen]

Great Perspective JDV! 👊🏻😎🕹️

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Thank you Ted; always good to hear from you!

[@tron3entertainment]

Arcade 1up dream machine. After Burner II, Space Harrier, TRUXTON, ZAXXON & Super ZAXXON (With ZAXXON level slow down) in a tabletop.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

ABII and SPACE HARRIER would be fantastic... but of course, just about any new title would be great!

[@decadentdave]

You won’t be seeing any more Sega titles from Arcade1up

[@KingEdAV]

Zaxxon,yes!!!

[@michaelbuddy]

I remember seeing space harrier in the arcade before 3D games were much of a thing. it was so wild, threw me off balance practically the POV was so cool.

[@astrobots]

I own a couple of A1up's. They need to come out with new licenses arcade games.

[@carlo1132]

I saw some good deals lately but no room, Time Crisis was really the lowest I ever saw it but once I figured out how much it would cost to upgrade I decided to pass.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

I just can't invest in a shooter with a 17" monitor unless it's a GREAT deal (like T2 when t was gong for $299).

[@fruitman7773]

What the hell is a peasantcade ??

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

www.walmart.com/ip/Arcade1Up-Mortal-Kombat-II-Classic-Arcade-Game-built-for-your-Home-4-foot-tall-stand-up-cabinet-14-classic-games-and-17-inch-screen/2169895464?classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L1200&from=/search

[@jmcminn1076]

“Peasantcade” is a somewhat derogatory description of the Walmart exclusive massively cheaped out arcade 1up cabs that come with no lit marque, and no riser, and lack any and all bells and whistles that their other cabs might have and thus they usually sell for $200-$250.

[@jmcminn1076]

I love 1ups for what they are. I have a whole arcade room full of them. But I am starting to run out of space and besides that, they have not put anything out that was new for quite a while. Maybe they needed to step back and reset. But unless they can start getting some other licenses and new content, it’s gonna be tough sledding to stay afloat.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

I mean they could do a perfectly acceptable business simply putting out Infinity tables and Pac-Mans... like they did this year. Wouldn't make hobbyist's happy, but they could stay in business.

[@jmcminn1076]

@@evilgeniusentertainment I’m not sure that is long term viable. If they can get the price of infinity tables down maybe, but I would think that the market of people who will buy a $300 Pac-Man replica arcade cab that haven’t already bought one is kind of a limited thing. I mean, maybe there is enough of that to stay afloat. But I don’t think it’s wrong to be a little skeptical of it. (Note: I hope they do stay afloat and am not a “hater”… just not sure the pac man well is one that won’t run dry.)

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

@@jmcminn1076 Oh, don't get me wrong, if they can't put out at least couple of new titles a year (or at least new XLs), then they're in a lot of trouble. But I can understand that for a year they throttle down. But... that year's just about up.

[@jmcminn1076]

I swapped the monitor from a gen 1 street fighter cab that I had replaced into my pac mania. Night and day difference. The gen 1 cabs used the air quote same display as the pac mania cab did. Same part number even. Clearly the batch A1up got for pac mania was…. Those gen 1 displays are TN and not the BOF displays, but the gen 1 batch was not god awful at least.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Yeah, not God awful - playable, not pretty!

[@jmcminn1076]

@ but that said, the gen one screens are way better than the crappy batch they got for the PacMania cabs. Those ARE god-awful. But to be fair to Arcade1up, they had the same part number as the gen 1 screens and these were legacy cabs, so they prolly thought they were getting screens like the gen 1 cabs when they decided to use those screens. That’s not what actually happened tho.

[@72chiefruse]

Nothing wrong with the Walmart versions, they are great for those who don’t want to spend $400-$500, and then they can just upgrade over time. I bought my first cab at year ago at Walmart, it was a Ms Pac Man with WiFi leader boards and a coin door. I’ve since added a lit marquee that I picked up off of eBay and i just got some lights for the coin door. I also bought a peasant version of Yoga Flame from marketplace new in the box for $200, great cab and easy to add a lit marquee as well.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

That's exactly what I was talking about! Super easy (and even fun) to upgrade those peasant-cades. And at $299, there's a whole lot less risk in doing so.

[@joeyjojojunior4886]

I would love to see some more VP options on the consumer market.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

In many ways the vpin market s still in its infancy. For instance, there's stlll no mass produced/licensed 43" playfield vpin available. It really is too bad A1up ddn't continue their vpin lineup.

[@SLAYERfan4life88]

I have six(2 countertops) but haven't bought anything new in 4 years. Pricing went nuts and quality such as it was dropped. Only ever had one issue and support help fix it.

[@marvinmartian2676]

I don't get the hate A1up gets. These are 300-400 dollar buys for home use. They were never meant to be commercial grade units. Now every youtuber in the space is plugging $10k pinball machines. Ain't nobody buying that.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Uh, I'm not plugging $10K machines! While I love Stern pinball, there's virtually zero chance most people (including me) can afford one. If Wonderland can actually bring n their 3/4 pin for $999 then of course I will cover that. That said, there are plenty of A1up's who's pricing has no relation to reality - charging $699 for THE SIMPSONS for example. But I do think these Walmart-cades are a fair deal.

[@pittbullpuppie]

I’ve got nothing but good things to say about arcade 1up,I own sf2 and mk2 legacy cabs for over a year ,and they get used weekly ,all stock and still going strong..but a couple weeks ago my mk2 cabs pcb board gave out ,and I was like oh shit here we go,looks like I’m gonna learn to do some mods or I’m stuck with a $700 Australian brick, being over a year old I contacted (emailed) arcade 1up support (in America ) and explained the situation ,they gave me a contact for support here in Australia, so I contacted them(Had receipts) ,and to my surprise they were more than happy to send out a replacement pcb,I couldn’t believe it ,I was so happy…so my mk2 died on a sunday and by the following Friday I had the new pcb already in my hands….so thank you arcade 1up ……now where was I ,oh that’s it ▶️,🔽,▶️ + HP…

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Nice to hear a good story re customer service! Still waiting for response re my dead TRON pcb, which at this point I suppose will never be coming. My strong advice to all A1up owners is to detach their pcb and flip it over so it has access to the air. Of all the weird design defects, having their pcb's enclosed in a metal box with no ventilation might be the weirdest of all....

[@RedSiegfried]

I was happy with my Ninja Turtles machine at full price and my Mortal Kombat machine on sale, even though it only has two sticks and more than one three-player game on it, but I'm extremely disappointed with the Class of 1981 machine ... the lag on the display is so bad IMO it's almost unplayable, and there's no way to fix that with software updates or a new stick (as Arcade1Up recommended and provided for free) since it's purely due to cheap laggy hardware. I wish I had just saved my money and bought a real Class of 1981 machine with old-school hardware that was at least responsive. My advice to any of them is to try before you buy whenever possible.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Are you talking about the new Deluxe class of '81?

[@RetroGamingNook]

Did a joystick replacement reduce lag in any way? I do feel there is a dead zone. I assume it is mostly in the screen processing. I just got this from my wife's dad as a Christmas gift so I never even researched it. I really appreciate it and I can get enjoyment from it, but there's incredible frustration in attempting any serious high score attempts. The lag is unacceptable. Having played these in the arcade in the 80s as a teen makes the lag feel that much worse.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

@@RetroGamingNook What's interesting is that while the TN screens in the PAC-MANIA generation have (n theory) faster reaction times. While the screen in my PAC-MANIA cab doesn't look good, never experienced any lag.....

[@cyberbillp]

What's a VPin?

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

virtual pinball!

[@NeuralX000]

Arcade 1 up makes a defective product with no customer support.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Well, I certainly don't love their customer support (still waiting for a reply back RE my dead TRON pcb), but I think it's unfair to say all their products are defective. Indeed, except for TRON, I've never had a cab die on me. But yes, there are some very poorly design cabs (SIMPSONS probably being the worst).

[@xcom6466]

They have proven with the Pac-man XL, arguably one of their best cabinets that they can make close to replica sized cabinets that look and feel like the real deal. That is their "SWEET" spot now, not these! We need to stop making excuses for this company! They are now run by people who do not know what they are doing, and that is what is truly happening here!

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Well the thing is this - the people running the company now are not the ones who ordered NFL BLITZ and SIMPSONS, arguably the two biggest millstones around the company's neck. I do agree with the idea that they should expand their XL lineup; something I think most of us thought they would do in '24.

[@xcom6466]

@evilgeniusentertainment YES!, it was supposed to be the year of the XL!! LOL!!

[@RetroGamingNook]

My gripe is the lag... how can I compete for high scores on a Class of '81 unit with lag??? Split second reflexes are needed. Shame on Arcade 1Up and Namco. I have no lag issue on my original MK unit.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Is this the newest Deluxe model?

[@RetroGamingNook]

@ Yes. I didn’t research any issues before purchase because it was a surprise Christmas gift from my wife’s dad. It’s a bit of a bummer. Occasionally the games seem visually choppy too, but it clears up. I was born in the 70s so I played all of these a ton in the arcade and it’s just soooo noticeable.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

@@RetroGamingNook If it's only happening intermittently, it might be caused by too much heat build up. I'd try unscrewing the PCB and flipping it around so it can get some air......

[@RetroGamingNook]

@@evilgeniusentertainment Thanks, I'll definitely try that. I'm seeing a better joystick will kill the slight dead zone too. At least the cabinet and the screen look great. I know most hate it, but I do think the softer video setting does look more like when the real arcade units had been in use for several years.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

@@RetroGamingNook Great point - "real arcade machines never looked great, and most were blown out within a year of use. There is a place for A1ups in the arcade universe....

[@scottboehmer1975]

Honestly, I think Arcade1up has taken a big step backward even with the form factor of the machines with the new deluxe cabs. I'm honestly not sure what they were thinking of with that. But really the bottom line for Arcade1up is all about the licenses and in that way 2024 has been pretty grim, to say the least.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

It'll be interesting to see if any new titles do come out in 2025. I thnk that ill tell us a lot about the health of the company.

[@fourthhorseman04]

This is your opinion and I think it’s a strong minority. I disagree with everything and it definitely made you seem like a shill 💯.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

You got me - A1up sent over Moose & Rocko to make me see the light. That, or $299 is actually a pretty good deal.

[@fourthhorseman04]

@ it’s really not. Some of those have been discounted as low as $99 . $299+ $70-$100 riser, +$100+ screen upgrade. I think the XL is a better deal. I have no problem with you, but I’m tell you that the optics of this video are bad lol.

[@The_Bad_Guy.]

@@fourthhorseman04 no they arent. hes right. 299 is a pretty good deal. thats what the price tag was 5 years ago. so to see that price now for a brand new machine is good.

[@fourthhorseman04]

@ $299 is not a good deal for that junk. lol GTFO of here with that. I bought blitz for $199. Last year. $399 for F&F. $249 for big Buck Hunter world with riser. You just have to be patient and shop sales.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

@@fourthhorseman04 If you watch the channel you'll know that I blast A1up on the reg - including my last 2 videos about them. And just because a product goes on sale doesn't mean it's MSRP is inherently a bad one. And I think $299 is a fair price for the peasant-cade. Too many people in this community want to scream shill when someone likes a product (or doesn't - just last week I was accused of being a shill for AG b/c I blasted A1up). It's tiring, silly, and ultimately non-productive.

[@loganq]

I was waiting for AT Games to come out with a ST:TNG branded pinball, and they messed that up. And their weird pricing, models, "preorder" pressure, etc., put the nails in the coffin. My only Arcade1Up is the Dragon's Lair, but if they came out with a good VPIN, I could get into that. The Oculus Quest does tables in 3D pretty well.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

I think I'm going to be leaning into the Quest for 2025, so stay tuned! I wonder if AG can get the license to do a ST:TNG cab, because I agree it would be amazing. But again, they might not be able to. For better or for worse, AtGames is realistically the only show in town right now.

[@loganq]

@@evilgeniusentertainment They have a Quest 3 for $299 now, plus a $100 rebate. If I didn't have a Q2, I'd jump on that. Looking forward to you telling me what games to get! Since AG did the TNG table, you'd think a skin would be possible. But I'm really over it now.

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

​@@loganq I wonder about licensing skins vs actual table. I'm assuming they're 2 different things (although obviously very closely related). I do think ST:TNG is one of the more desired skins, so hopefully it will happen. That new Quest 3S is very tempting, but because I'm so blind I might have to go for the 3 (which is $200 more). VR is about to make a big splash in 2025....

[@loganq]

@@evilgeniusentertainment@evilgeniusentertainment I don't know anything about skins vs. content, other than sometimes there are actors on the skins, not in the content, and then that's a problem. Remember that even though the Quest will fit over glasses, you can also get custom prescription lenses. I'm still waiting for Roddenberry Archives to publish to Quest. My recurring theme is that I've been disappointed with Star Trek releases.