EVO 6 Engine Failure - What Went Wrong?

Our 4G63 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Evo 6 engine suffered a major headgasket failure and we teardown the engine to see what exactly went wrong.
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[@jman566]

Hey guys don’t let the negative comments get to you most of us love all the content you guys put out especially the engine builds 👍

[@dancarlos1216]

And at the end of the day, they still have an R34 GTR!

[@Mr_jz_12]

@@faabill4953 Built my car myself. Only help i had was old motor out and new motor in and dialing in the tps. Rest was all me. There is "owning up" and there is owning up.

[@plumberman19]

William Barrett yeah, they have nothing to own up to(except maybe using the wrong plugs(not cold enough)). This wasn’t a failure due to engine assembly, it was the tuner.

[@1Seall7]

no learning without a failure. good work guys, keep on going

[@pr0n5tar]

You've got it wrong, no failure without an opportunity to learn

[@willemveenstra2084]

With disassembly the ARP studs could have rotated with the nuts. Not decking the engine or even checking for warping was definitely the problem, and you may upgrade to a L19 of +625 headbolts kit as the 4G63 is notorious for blowing gaskets. And with that small frame turbo you will produce more cilinder pressure as with a larger turbo. Don't read the comments to much, I love what you're doing! Keep it going. PS: would appriciate that you guys would do a rebuild yourself so people can learn it's possible to fix a screwup and not have to resort to a expensive alternative. 👍🏼

[@84knocturnal]

My thoughts exactly

[@michaelallen2501]

Well said.

[@_thatslows14]

what i said without hating on them

[@plumberman19]

Your statement about turbo pressures is unqualified and dead wrong. 20psi is 20psi... and VE will determine the power made with that number. Also, 4G63s are notorious for blowing head gaskets... just like EVERY OTHER popular turbo’d engine platform(sr20, ej20, h22a, b series, etc..) minus maybe Honda’s bullet proof K series. This is simply due to the fact that it’s a popular engine(the more people that build an engine, the more they’re gonna blow up, because it’s actually hard to build a solid reliable turbo engine, there’s more to it than throwing money at them). And that’s only due to the fact that the cars they came in were/are popular. Engines become popular because of cars, not because they are good engines. A properly tuned engine with a turbo can make whatever power you want, with the right mods. And ones that come factory turboed just need less mods, that’s all. But, poor tuning ie. too much timing, not enough fuel... will cause higher cylinder pressures if those conditions cause preignition, not the “frame” of the turbo. Turbo size simply changes how much air is pumped into the engine and when. It has no influence on the actual combustion event itself.

[@charlesschwab7651]

plumberman19 some of your statement seems hyperbolic and exaggerated. Some engines require such extensive modification to make big power turbo or otherwise that it can’t really even be considered the same engine. And some engines are popular because of the cars they’re in but some of them are extremely popular because they can make massive power and they can do it easily. 2Jz and LS platform comes to mind immediately. Probably became popular due to the corvette and Supra but I would venture to guess there are more cars with 2Jzs and LS in motor sports right now than there are corvettes and Supra’s that function at all. Just be careful coming in with hard bold statements like that when criticizing someone online. Most of the time you come across as a jerk even if you mean well. There are ways to say things in a respectful manner that still get your point across.

[@asambi69]

If the block didn't need decking before...it certainly will now.

[@Airman..]

Its cast iron almost bullet proof Head is definitely wrapped though

[@jtackerman28]

That's unlikely

[@eastcoastghost2521]

asambi69,Absolutely deck the block

[@pk6336158]

@@eastcoastghost2521 Now there wont be allowed to run plenty timing

[@plumberman19]

Airman correct! The block is most likely fine. But, when aluminum heads are lifted they are twisted, lol. I’d love to see that thing on a machinist’s flat stone. Bet it’ll rock like gramma’s rocking chair, lol.

[@Alexander-sr5fg]

I love how people who only can prove they have enough intelligence to log into KZbin and comment think that they are pro engine builders. Guess what? Shit happens. All you can do is move forward- sometimes things work out better than other times. Anytime ANYONE makes a modification, they're rolling the dice; that's why there's so much debate about standard operating procedures. You guys are doing the right thing. Perfection doesn't exist, but the pursuit of excellence does. Love your content and efforts.

[@tommiedewaal]

Couldn't have said it better!

[@Syncopia]

Arm chair experts at their finest.

[@danob8968]

Kinda lost me at cilinder head, lol I mean how can you take somebody seriously when they cant spell cylinder.

[@davidpac4]

Right! I love how everyone is an expert AFTER the fact they explain the possibilities

[@sephiros9883]

Very eloquently put, amen! The Hindsight 20/20 experts of the internet are the best.

[@MrJessegsx]

Failure is how you learn. I blew up so many motors in my DSM. Learned from each one. You'll get it sorted guys! Coming from a 4g guy, these things happen. Don't give up! Build the next one!

[@BaderBuiltRacing]

I literally just had this identical issue at a much higher power level, but we both used a JE Pro Seal Headgasket... Ive used them for years on subaru's if you are familiar with my channel. But apparently when it comes to evos they are not the desired gasket. Pulling mine apart today to see my damage as well..

[@Addiesarkisian]

Baderrrrr

[@Addiesarkisian]

Can’t wait for your video on the evo

[@isaiclucero6471]

Love your channel man

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Poor tuning and detonation running a high static compression. Not a head gasket issue.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

But did you use the nectar of the gods on both sides of the gasket? Copper spray! Lol

[@ndh8445]

I wait in anticipation for these videos, thank you for taking us on your journey! Been a fan for many years.

[@jacobbarney124]

Haters gonna hate. You guys put out awesome content and I know you'll get it sorted out! I think going the safer route here would be best though.

[@richardcampbell8685]

Please read comments again. It's fun to laugh at these "experts". You guys rock keep up the good work. I have been around since around 9000 followers and your stuff definitely keeps getting better.

[@plumberman19]

Thomas Chrombly What makes you say that? Have they posted more information about it? Which “experts”? Haha I’d like to know if my guess was right?

[@shonancheta]

please take care of your health everyone, your channel is one of my favorites on youtube, thank you so much for your great content, and can't wait for the next episode...

[@Gizmo20VT]

Was waiting to see some figures from this build, and the track session. Love the content guys, cant wait for the next video. Keep it up!

[@devonv2455]

Pull/check pistons and bores, the ringlands might be broken/compromised

[@plumberman19]

Yes, because this engine failed due to pre-ignition, with wrecks everything, Pistons, ring lands, Rods, bearings, cylinder heads, cylinder walls, the list goes on. This engine needs a COMPLETE rebuild including all the recommended machining.

[@dustinselby1368]

I would do a check of everything. If they deck the block. They gotta remove everything anyways. Metals gets everywhere.

[@apollorhythm]

Don't beat yourselves up on this one. Happens to us all. It's part of owning and modifying cars. Keep up the great work. Love the videos as always!

[@plumberman19]

There’s nothing to beat themselves up about. It wasn’t an engine building problem, it was a tuner problem.

[@BradBuege]

You guys take your failures in stride and create learning experiences for yourself and us all out of negative situations. The continued positive attitudes as you struggle with difficult things is commendable, you're out there trying things, working hard, and taking risk just to give us this content; for those things you both have my respect. Thank you for making these videos.

[@kylehufford9645]

Keep at it guys. No matter what your content is great. Learning experience for everyone. Its really great that you are willing to show everyone the failure and not just fix it behind the scenes.

[@anomamos9095]

On any high performance engine after the run in cycle you always check and retorque every single fastener. Even the ones that hold down the confabulator and especially the thingymawahtsit.

[@maverick2242]

Thanks for sharing what went wrong, including the stripped bolt, I am surprised you didn’t get the blocked decked.. Not to be negative, but maybe the Title should be updated from STI killer to EVO killer! I have argued this with many enthusiasts, I see as many if not more EVO failures as any other car and esp Subies! When you modify, you cant cut corners, always deck, tear that right down, don’t just slap that stock gasket back on and hope for the best, it will def crash and burn, for me you are sharing experiences, nothing wrong with that, just learn from it..show the right steps next time, so we all learn from it and what’s the right way going forward, save others the same pain, Look forward to the next vid. 🤘

[@matthewgriffiths527]

I'm surprised they didn't deck the block as well, to me that is a newbie mistake. They should used a stock head gasket as a fail safe. It's better to blow a head gasket than damage a block/head.

[@3geclipsebuiltperformance883]

I have an 8 motor swap in my 3g fully built lol wth happend with the decking ur rite

[@mx5_enigma308]

Every car guy knows how you both feel! Thanks for showing both failures and successes on the channel!

[@jchanh2600]

I really enjoy watching this project. The Evo 6 is always one of my dream cars as s kid. I thank you and appreciate all of the hard work and time you guys put into this build.

[@spar8334]

Sometimes forums have improvements they've found over manufacturer directions

[@plumberman19]

I know you guys don’t want to “play the blame game” and hurt someone’s feelings, but that damage has pre-ignition written ALL OVER IT, the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of PI(Which you can’t hear with knock headphones btw) also, the video showing sparks flying, that is evidence of burning metal or pieces of carbon, not fuel. There are no sparks with normal combustion of fuel. This head was LIFTED, not leaked from poor mating surfaces(lack of decking) wish you guys would’ve though, which would’ve further proven my point. People often over look the fact that PI causes enormous cylinder pressures, well over your expected pressures seen with 30 40 even 50psi of boost. The head was not lifted from 20 psi of boost, just ain’t gonna happen with your ARPs and a proper torque, which I believe you guys did. Also, as far as deck surfaces, there is a good margin of error that you can get away with until VERY high performance levels. You might get a bad seal and pressurize your coolant system, and maybe even a small combustion leak, but you’re not going to lift the head due to poor mating surfaces. Lifting only happens due to improper head bolt torque or excessively high cylinder pressures, that’s it. I’m sorry guys, this sucks! Most of us that have built turbo engines have been there, I know I have. And with that pretty KA24DE-“T”😉 in my profile pic. Rebuilt it twice. Once because I turbo’d it with a stock short block and got greedy with power. And the other, because of bad tuning(my fault).

[@ReubenHorner]

I was under the impression that pre ignition was very hard to have happen unless you have a super small turbo like the modern cars have. Seems like a detonation issue to me but I'd like the pros to speak up (Andre from HPA)

[@plumberman19]

The lifting of the head would suggest pre ignition vs knock. Detonation doesn’t increase the pressures like PI does. The size of the turbo hasn’t much influence, if any at all, on propensity for preignition. PI is when the explosion happens way before you want it to which causes huge pressures. Detonation is when explosions happen after spark but in other parts of the combustion chamber which far less destructive, that’s why you can have “ping” or “knock” and the motor lives to tell about it lol. Not to say that detonation can’t grenade a motor, but it generally just destroys pistons and their ring lands. I’ve built multiple turbo engines and tuned them myself(mostly AEM and megasquirt), I’ve failed at it and been successful at it. I may not be a professional, but know enough to know what I see in this motor.

[@ReubenHorner]

@@plumberman19 that's true

[@goatropefan38]

@@plumberman19 so I know nothing about engine building etc but if we were playing the blame game who/what would be at fault for preignition if it was the cause of this particular issue?

[@plumberman19]

lohpezfan62 unfortunately it would be the tuner. Sasha knows what he is doing, but we all make mistakes. Of course you can say, “well Pete didn’t install EGT(exhaust gas temperature) sensors” so it’s his fault for not installing safety features. EGT sensors would have shown the adverse conditions to the tuner and the ECU and very well might have prevented what happened, yes, but the tuner knows, or at least should know, the constraints of the motor he’s tuning, for example.. We don’t have this feature, or we do, we’re using this fuel, the bottom end is built, or it isn’t, it has upgraded head studs or it doesn’t etc... these things help him make the decision to set fuel trims, boost levels, and timing at certain levels. Good tuners like Sasha know these things, which are generally universal and can apply to most motors they will ever come across. Sorry, I’m long winded if you couldn’t tell🤣

[@loganspaid2194]

Love the build vids. I hope you guys tear it down and rebuild it just for the learning sake. Got to have problems every now then to be learning. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next video

[@AndrewB1ngham]

I really enjoyed the engine build - it’s good seeing you try new things - and I want to see you complete it. I think we’ve all learned to be flexible over the last few months and most of us would be prepared to wait for that content.

[@samdefoe1043]

Lol at the comments end, you guys will get this back up soon I’m sure. That head gasket was melted good

[@tylerm6652]

When are you guys coming back to Baltimore to pick up the Celica?

[@marlonalleyne8218]

Guys it's always disheartening when things don't go as planned but I find myself more anxious than ever to see how this build continues. I like how you guys are doing your fact finding in a very objective way. Looking forward to the next video. 👍👍

[@mino070382]

I love the content you guys are putting out, please don't stop. Thanks!

[@TheCSHeckler]

Wow, don't they love it when you fail. Making mistakes is interesting for me. I'd go the OEM gasket and deck the block, just to see but a new short block may be cheaper in the long run. There's nothing wrong with you two learning the realities of engine building on your own channel, it's still instructive for an ameteur like me.

[@rtsoccerplayer]

In some cases i've seen forums correct the torque specs from ARP's manual. I even remember on one of your engine builds (I think the s2000 or SR20) you had to use a different torque spec because the ARP one was too high

[@HEATHENYT]

There is a lot of good info in forums. They have saved me a lot of trouble more often than i care to admit lol. Why not listen to someone who screwed up for me?

[@rtsoccerplayer]

@@HEATHENYT very true, problem is that forums also has lots of bad info haha

[@Dragonmalkier]

@@rtsoccerplayer There is no way hand tight is correct, even with ARP grease material or loctite. arpinstructions.com/instructions/207-4302.pdf That manual states 100ft/lbs

[@corwininadsm]

@@Dragonmalkier certainly looks legit to me

[@Dragonmalkier]

@@corwininadsm Actually I'm just wrong. He was referring to the studs themselves, not the nuts down for the heads themselves. Finger tighten just doesn't seem right to me.

[@gerardbuscombe585]

Sorry about the other people giving you negative comments. You guys are inspirational and it’s great to see you giving it ago.

[@siebelprakash3997]

You guys are amazing. Keep up with the videos. Big Love from Malaysia !

[@ozman1975]

I used a OEM HG and +625 head studs on my fully built 4G63 engine, run 650hp all day on a very conservative tune.

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Whet happened here was a tuning issue and preignition/ detonation.

[@robbalinski1606]

I run 28 psi on a stock composite HG as well zero issues. ARP's are a wonderful thing, but it really comes down to tuning.

[@markc1456]

Same here! 37psi fpBlack Gsc R2 2.2L ARP 625+/OEM 9 MLS gasket! No issues for years! Mates are running 40+ on 6466's with same set up 🤔

[@iwantoffroad]

Put a machinist straight edge on the block in multiple positions.

[@noobatnothing]

dp and pt! i love you guys and all the exciting endeavours i’ve followed in the years watching. thank you for all the knowledge gained together and passion shared! you guys make great videos, always love tuning in. sasha seems like an amazing tuner but idk why he didn’t hear anything with the knock box and let out on that last dyno pull. always pushing forward guys, i know y’all would have fun building it up again or racing the subi asap

[@kinglolo88]

You guys are out here doing the lords work in the automotive enthusiast world. Keep it up.

[@alvinaliasjackie]

yeah deffo STI killer xD love the build.

[@sardengineering]

Thanks for reading my comment. When I noted appropriate sensors I was referring to a coolant pressure sensor, not just the knock sensor. Like you said, in hindsight, it’s easy to pin point helpful things which could have prevented the failure. However, with existing reservations surrounding the ability for the engine to keep the integrity of the combustion chamber’s sealing, maybe monitoring the behavior of the pressure buildup within the coolant system would have turned a light on in an otherwise dark room? Even setting up an engine limiter protection strategy to limit the pending doom of such instances. Please allow me to wish you all the best moving things forward in a positive direction.

[@oyurcha1]

You make a good point about monitoring coolant pressure. I wonder if that option was available with the standalone that they had installed in the car.

[@sardengineering]

oyurcha1 the Link plugin ecu they’re using has two expansion loom ports, this is where the spare inputs and outputs are terminated. On the number two expansion loom connection there are 4 spare analog input channels, An Volt 6 through 10. Within the software there are two general purpose engine protection limiters. In the event that the engine protection limiters were used for what ever, you still had a general purpose trim offset table which will allow you to drastically reduce boost pressure by applying a negative percentage to the wastegate duty cycle table; on this 3D table you would set the axis as engine speed by an incremental coolant pressure measurement. It takes time to get these strategies to work in the favor of the engine’s specific operational conditions, sometimes the correct sensitivity for it to be effective will require a bit of attention; but it’s definitely a possibility. I’m not sharing this to point fingers at whom ever, I’m sharing this in hopes that these mistakes can be avoid by anyone using a modern engine management solution.

[@jamesfreeman8276]

Keep it up guys! All a learning experience. Can't wait to see the end result.

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

Just another opportunity to learn and get better, glad to see you taking it 👍

[@mobilePCreviews]

Lmao the salty comments got me

[@popase05]

Same had me rofl

[@hahaha12345678993]

am i the only one that would rather watch them pulling the engine in a non time lapse style, i'd watch it if it was an hour long video

[@axelalejandrosantiago8227]

Keep reading the comments guys, love your reactions. Keep up the great work!!!!

[@beewrx2112]

I’m happy the motor blew up, it means more awesome content from speed academy! Silver lining! Keep up the great work guys! 👋🏻

[@mickeylee321]

Put on the OEM gasket and race it!

[@KiwiTheKiwi24]

Amen to that. I have ran the oem headgasket for well over 40,000km on a built motor and 40+ psi ... still holding.

[@ossocinco]

It actually blew my mind that oem is the answer for most people. Never would’ve thunk it 👍

[@markc1456]

Whatabout a stopper type head gasket, like hks🤔 they any good.. my e9 gasket was fine for 37psi too

[@KiwiTheKiwi24]

@@markc1456 Stick to OEM Mitsu headgasket. They have proven themselves time and time again. Just like the stock crank.

[@UnderAchievrLP]

Maperformance short block 2.1L. evens the scale vs the sti in terms of displacement at least.

[@mattwilson4719]

It would be cool to see an equal displacement challenge!

[@AutodromoF1]

Hey guys, I love your vids. I really wanna see you guys succeed and build this engine yourselves. We can wait!

[@urpapa1999]

thank you guys for putting together content like this!!

[@zeroyon9]

ping ping ping .... your tuner is a ding a ling ...... Top of the pistons tell the story.

[@Mr_jz_12]

I dont understand how they're covering for this shit.

[@azzdog]

@@Mr_jz_12 Because Sasha is their mate and they obviously don't want to think he's made a mistake here.

[@Mr_jz_12]

@@azzdog Makes it look even worse. "we're admitting to our mistakes" errr no, you're not.

[@bri-manhunter2654]

It was absolutely a tuning issue!

[@plumberman19]

Finally, some commenters that actually know something about motors 🙌🏼 I gave a detailed explanation of what I think happened, and to put it shortly, it was preignition, which was the tuners fault.

[@MrTherumpled4skin]

Definitely too much timing in the tune for the octane level

[@aconfusedazn]

Love your perseverance. Keep up the good work! Love the content!

[@bruceguevara9684]

Hey guys I have been in your shoes having a new engine go on you is terrible. Keep your heads up, love watching a grown up car channel on youtube. Thank you guys for the content.

[@jwilliams703]

Well its a 4g63... they work or they dont. thats that.

[@MithileshRamhit]

There's no in between

[@Fyxxterzc]

Amen to that. Curse of the 4g63. But when it does work its usually hulk smash.

[@jwilliams703]

@@Fyxxterzc My last was just on a new turbo, nevr had a chance to enjoy it. Lost spark on cylinders 2 and 3 for no reason. I swapped out everything that had to do with spark. Even whent to a 1G cas. Never worked again. No idea why. Im a subi guy now. from one problem to another lol.

[@WTFNoNamesLeft2]

This is it exactly, if you can get one past 3k miles it'll run forever and take so much abuse.

[@theo.k]

I'm proud to be a Patreon supporter, just so that I can show those keyboard warrior techs the finger. Engine failures happen. It's 2020 !

[@justarandomweeb3220]

Well you cant argue with the internet "experts". If only they are there to help the build maybe this wont happened.

[@jacobkirkpatrick4724]

You guys make some of the best and most enjoyable car content I've seen. Keep up the awesome work, gents! This hiccup will be behind you before you know it.

[@ourlifeinwashington4114]

I binged watched every episode yesterday and night on this car. Nice job guys new sub

[@sarahdell4042]

Reach out to Magnus

[@levpardede7877]

that is a timing to the moon.. i ve seen it from here. that engine goes to your fckin tuner

[@donkyuhbuhts540]

Honestly this channel has so much content and so much R&D it's pretty awesome. Also glad to see the Subie came out the winner.

[@zkipa]

It's ridiculous to me how many people criticize in the comments for stuff like this. I for one enjoy watching you regardless of the mistakes, and you learning from them. I watch to see your journey, not for you guys to do everything perfectly right every time. That's not reality. Plenty of professionals make mistakes on a regular basis. Can't tell you how many times I've taken my car to "professional" shops and ended up just wishing I would have at least tried to do it myself and saved the myself the hassle of paying someone else to make mistakes for me. It's okay something went wrong, it happens to the best of em. Keep truckin guys.

[@MRCRICKET24]

You guys are the best, reading those comments was hilarious. You guys have great attitudes regarding the whole situation 👍

[@jordanpanich]

Love the positivity in the face of adversity! Keep up the great work! Love the show!!!

[@danielkellum8024]

I love the realness of your content, please don't let the haters get under your skin, but I did also enjoy you confronting them.

[@JorgeContreras-co5gd]

love the show, hope to see more builds soon

[@MrJasons9]

Thanks for reading those comments, that was entertaining. Keep up the great work guys.

[@half_r_mk5]

Keep up the great work guys and goodluck on the rebuild. 👍👍 looking forward to see more videos.

[@apollyon2578]

I love the comment reading at the end. It's so easy to be the guy sitting back and watching videos and say "This is what you should have done".

[@FFAttack]

Love the content guys as always. Looking at the cylinder damage and the way that gasket blew I have only seen that with a tune that was too hot, knock or high EGT’s. The deck likely contributed to the head gasket blowing but the scored cylinders and piston damage it was going to happen fresh deck or not. Keep it up guys your doing great! Showing failures like this is good, some would have never even shown it or spoken about it.

[@rickymudhar7409]

Keep on grinding fellas ! .. things like tht happen . You guys are great!

[@michaelsmdk]

every watch starts with a thumbs up! great work guys. awesome video as always!

[@texasflysuperstar]

Don’t give it up guys, would love to see you both continue on your engine rebuild journey. You live and learn hey!?

[@javinsalzer2159]

Hope you guys can come back swinging! I really enjoy the quality of your videos! They are really top notch.

[@Elmanret]

You guys are amazing! Please keep up with the great content and I hope Dave is fine! I will check everything visually, put on a new head gasket, retorque everything fine and try to tune again!

[@sask949]

Solid content as always!

[@steedsgarage]

Love you guys content, keep it up. there are plenty of 100% professional people to watch and you guys are way more entertaining lol. keep up the trying and learning, we'll keep watching

[@TheStwat]

You two have my utmost respect. More than any other channel on youtube, you show true reality. How shit really is. No sugar coating. Shit happens and you show it as is, no bullshit.

[@FEASTJAPAN]

You guys are golden, aces in my book. God bless you!

[@PenguinScotty]

It's easy to throw dirt when you're not the one getting hit in the face. Thank you for being real and showing what can happen. I'd rather learn from a mistake than try to hide a failure, trying to make myself look better on the internets... Looking forward to the battle!

[@alexhollings5236]

Great channel, great videos. Really enjoying all of the content 😀. Looking forward to the battle.

[@kevinm5177]

Liked the tear down. Good luck with the rebuild decisions

[@tomwalter8536]

Guys that was great, especially liked the comments readout. While I’m sure there was lots of swearing behind the scenes, I admire your ability to keep your cool on camera

[@mailordaemon2127]

Love the content guys! Can't wait to see the STi and Evo battle

[@swmatthews005]

Love the attitude guys. Keep goin. You know what your doing. 😁😁

[@nayfonr32]

Nothing technical to add, but just wanted to say keep up the good work guys. You guys are one of the best motoring channels on KZbin and its mind boggling that you only have 350K subs.

[@Ron-wb3lq]

Most plp dont show or admit failures, im glad you guys did. Rebuild the motor and keep learning. Excellent content.

[@pablogagne488]

Yeah that all sucks ! Hopefully the next engine build you guys do yourself will end up better ! I like that you guys show the truth about tuning cars, it goes wrong some time and thats just the way it is ! Keep the good work love the vids ! 👍🏼

[@Precisionmagert]

Love the content and keep the videos coming.

[@illest7113]

Big time RESPECT for showing the flaws, not many youtubers that build show that💪💪

[@pvogel]

You guys truly do deserve more subscribers.

[@imtheboss48]

Best of luck rebuilding guys! You can do it! I'm sure this is super frustrating for you, but it will be worth it.

[@SHADOWSEEKER-yo1hb]

I love how they both respond politely to hateful comments and learn from their mistakes.Be greater than the haters and be you guys.Much appreciation from Kenya👍😊

[@MrBoo-zg2hz]

Loved hearing you guys read a lot of negative comments. It’s tough to hear some, but other are like just stfu and watch this. Keep going, guys!! Excited to see the eventual battle!

[@octaviovillarreal4970]

Loved the end! I feel for you guys my evo is also down right now.

[@matthewhill4295]

Keep up the always great content guys

[@ryanrodriguez2736]

:/ so much effort I watched all the videos on this thing and was so sad when I saw the dyno vid! Goodluck guys keep up the cool content ! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@omarcheevers]

Love this channel.

[@forerealz]

I enjoy how you guys are embracing the criticism you receive. IT shows us that you care enough to read our commentary, and that you don't take the hate too seriously. Keep keep'n-on my dudes, I'll keep watching and loving the content.

[@adampetersen5316]

Hi from Australia. Don’t be discouraged by arm chair warriors! These things happen, that’s how we learn! Keep bringing amazing content! Love your work guys!!

[@AM-yy5tp]

OK so there were a lot of harsh comments - hats off to you guys for addressing them. It's all a learning experice right! Stay positive and keep up the good work 👍

[@stuartarneaud218]

Evo for life u guys did ur best for a first time build 👍👍