Evolution & Creationism | Ron - Chicago, IL | Atheist Experience 20.25

The Atheist Experience 20.25 for June 26, 2016, with Matt Dillahunty and Phil Session.
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[@davidsmith7653]

Last year I hiked from Cornwall to Scotland. Over 700 miles. Ron: That's not possible. I see no way millions of small steps can add up to a long journey.

[@pallejensen9484]

agreed he a moron😂😂 wonder how he would take this then. im a danish guy with a philippine gf. my trip starts with 54 steps down in my hallway after i lock my apartment. 5 more steps down to get to the streetlevel entrence then a 12 14 min walk to the train. grt off at copenhagen airport. then 18 km up and down in a flight. more walking in next airport then 18 km up and down again. and bum bum bum im in manila airport walking out to a car ending with 2 more steps up to end up in our apartment😂😂😂 keep in mind 2 of my steps up and 2 down on that trip was about 18 km each. and still i traveled about 8000 miles in total lol

[@ePICS8]

Ron: “You are not a Philosopher, you don’t have a degree. “ Matt: “where did the first philosophers get their degree?” Matt is always spot on with his answers

[@ishmaelkelly951]

It never cease to amaze me on why these religious people always constantly tried to disprove Evolution when it has nothing to do with the God claims

[@eirvingdiaz7185]

that is some funny ass reasoning. I suppose Socrates, Plato and Aristotle would be out of the picture since neither of them had any "formal education." Just as a quick reminder, Socrates knew that Greek gods were baloney and he rejected those gods from Athens.

[@electrochemnerd]

Does this caller have a biology degree?

[@ePICS8]

@@electrochemnerd probably not haha

[@vizzini2510]

@ePICS Since they predate the first universities by 1,000+ years, I am pretty sure that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle did not have degrees in ANYTHING. I am equally confident that Ron did not get past middle school. I keep hoping to hear intelligent conversations on AXP, but the intelligence only seems to come from one direction.

[@HighStakesDanny]

Evolution is a fact.

[@raysalmon6566]

The Facts And Feelings. . 1 year ago. . Evolution is a fact.. . 49 likes. you just feel its a fact😎

[@jangohemmes352]

@@raysalmon6566 you're talking out of your ass again. It is a fact, despite you denying it

[@Hurtman2000]

@@raysalmon6566 123k views, and he gets 56 likes, but in your appeal to numbers it all doesn't equate to his comment being a fact because...?

[@raysalmon6566]

@@Hurtman2000 Matthew 7:13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

[@Hurtman2000]

@@raysalmon6566 non sequitur. Quoting mythical, wishful thinking books doesn't help us getting to any sort of meeting of the minds.

[@Aguijon1982]

Tell people that there is an invisible man in the sky and they will believe you. Tell them that the paint is still fresh and they have to go and touch it to be sure. George Carlin

[@flammmenspeeryt9184]

Wonderful! :)

[@thomasmurrell6908]

So very true lol

[@jaspersheridan1710]

Love this quote.

[@kevinnazario1015]

That is a good one. Simple and to the point.

[@TheSnoeedog]

i love it! one of my favourites by him is, "Christian conservatives want live babies so they can grow up to be dead soldiers." -- George Carlin, RIP *(WE MISS YOU SO MUCH, GEORGE)*

[@AndrewWilsonStooshie]

"Oh, I speak to biochemists and molecular biologists on a regular basis". Hmm.

[@6MaxSix6]

"Oh, I speak to biochemists and molecular biologists on a regular basis" And they try to shy away from him like you would do for the mad lady talking to herself on a bus smelling faintly of pee......

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

And he said in this really arrogant tone like somehow his conversations with these scientists justifies his bizzare ideas.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

@@6MaxSix6 You have been warned many times not to ride the Yonge Street Night bus. Bring a can of air freshner next time.

[@kellybults8248]

@@6MaxSix6 he always leaves out the part that they dont agrea with him at all such a conman wanne be.

[@roqsteady5290]

But not evolutionary biologists.

[@MarxistKnight]

Ron’s entire argument essentially is that he doesn’t see how “1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=10” because 10 is so much bigger than 1.

[@scottblack7182]

❤ exactly

[@scottblack7182]

That good 'ol argument from ignorance 😏

[@Anselmer_]

no all those 1's end up as a 1 because they're all the same "kind" (jk)

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

"Earth is flat because it looks that way from the surface and I should be able to see a curve but I don't therefore I dictate reality."

[@juanpablo-uj6ko]

When I was a child I used to believe that the theory of evolution was accepted worldwide and that if they taught it to us at school, it is because all people agreed with that. That's why I was surprised to see such stupid people defending creationism as a teenager

[@atheistechoes9594]

People like him put us back a thousand years

[@defiance1790]

School also teaches you that you can delude yourself into identifying to whatever you want to be. At some point you should try questioning what your taught, otherwise you’re no better off than those indoctrinated into religion.

[@atheistechoes9594]

@@defiance1790 what is so wrong with figuring out who you wanna be

[@defiance1790]

@@atheistechoes9594 Who you want to be vs what you are, are two completely different things. You can change your actions, you cannot change your genetic makeup.

[@atheistechoes9594]

@@defiance1790 says you but science says otherwise homophobe yo be clear im not gay or anything but some of my family are

[@NerdOutWithMe]

I'm convinced some people call just to be heard, because nobody else will listen.

[@raysalmon6566]

Depends

[@mykehog6646]

@@raysalmon6566 lol...yeah..they can talk to themselves..sane people call that prayer...lol

[@at6686]

Great point.

[@Artman1]

@@mykehog6646 That's how i found out i'm God. I was praying and realised i was talking to myself.

[@defiance1790]

I’m convinced people have call in shows just to talk over people they pretend to listen to.

[@LeighDWYC]

And creationists wonder why normal people laugh at them

[@defiance1790]

That’s funny coming from a guy who believes his ancestors are fish.

[@defiance1790]

@Evolved Primate There is a reason why scientists call it a theory.... because it is indeed NOT a fact.

[@defiance1790]

@Evolved Primate gee that’s funny, no where in the definition you gave states it is a fact. It is an explanation given to explain a body of facts… that doesn’t make it a fact. Thanks for supporting my position 👍

[@defiance1790]

@Evolved Primate The Theory of gravity is not a fact. Gravity’s existence is a fact. The theory of gravity is what we believe gravity to be given the available known facts. However, what we believe gravity to be is still only a theory. I’d go through the rest of the ones you mentioned, but I’m hoping you’re smart enough to get the point.

[@defiance1790]

@Evolved Primate If theory’s were fact then we would just call them facts. Also, if theory’s were facts then it would be impossible to prove them wrong… which they do all the time. 10 Most Famous Scientific Theories That Were Later Debunked By Scientist 1- Fleischmann-Pons’s Nuclear Fusion Cold fusion is a supposed kind of nuclear reaction that would occur at relatively low temperatures compared with hot fusion. As a new type of nuclear reaction, it gained much popularity after reports in 1989 by famous electrochemists Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann. The craze about cold fusion became weaker as other scientists, after trying to repeat the experiment, failed to get similar results. 1a - One of Modern Science’s Greatest Misconceptions The misconception that mass is destroyed in nuclear reactions. 2- Phrenology Now widely considered as a pseudoscience, phrenology was the study of the shape of skull as indicative of the strengths of different faculties. Modern scientific research wiped it out by proving that personality traits could not be traced to specific portions of the brain. 3- The Blank Slate The Blank Slate theory (or Tabula rasa), widely popularized by John Locke in 1689, proposed that individuals are born without built-in mental content and that their knowledge comes from experience and perception. Modern research suggests that genes and other family traits inherited from birth, along with innate instincts of course, also play a very important role. 4- Luminiferous Aether The aether (or ether) was a mysterious substance that was thought to transmit light through the universe. The idea of a luminiferous aether was debunked as experiments in the diffraction and refraction of light, and later Einstein’s special theory of relativity, came along and entirely revolutionized physics. 5- Einstein’s Static (or Stationary) Universe A static universe, also called a “stationary” or “Einstein” universe, was a model proposed by Albert Einstein in 1917. It was problematic from the beginning. Edwin Hubble’s discovery of the relationship between red shift obliterated it by completely demonstrating that the universe is constantly expanding. 6- Martian Canals The Martian canals were a network of gullies and ravines that some 19th century scientists erroneously thought to exist on Mars. First detected in 1877 by Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli, modern telescopes and imaging technology completely debunked the myth. The “canals” were actually found to be a mere optical illusion. 7- Phlogiston Theory First postulated in 1667 by German physician Johann Joachim Becher, Phlogiston Theory is an obsolete scientific theory regarding the existence of “phlogiston”, a fire-like element, which was contained within combustible bodies and released during combustion. The theory tried to explain burning processes such as combustion and the rusting of metals, which are now jointly termed as “oxidation”. 8- The Expanding or Growing Earth The Expanding Earth or Growing Earth is a hypothesis suggesting that the position and relative movement of continents is dependent on the volume of the Earth increasing. Modern science has turned down any expansion or contraction of the Earth. 9- Discovery of the Planet Vulcan A small planet that was supposed to exist in an orbit between Mercury and the Sun, French mathematician Urbain Jean Joseph Le Verrier coined the name “Vulcan” while trying to explain the nature of Mercury’s orbit. No such planet was ever discovered, while the orbit of Mercury was explained in detail by Albert Einstein’s theory of general relativity. 10- Spontaneous (or Equivocal) Generation Spontaneous generation or equivocal generation is an obsolete principle concerning the origin of life from inanimate matter. The hypothesis was brought out by Aristotle who advocated the work of earlier natural philosophers. It was proven wrong in the 19th century by the experiments of Louis Pasteur, drawing influence from Francesco Redi who was an early proponent of germ theory and cell theory.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

As Neil DeGrasse Tyson said, God becomes an ever shrinking bubble of scientific ignorance.

[@darksoul479]

If you proved that evolution is completely false right now that doesn't prove creation. It's just a waste of time.

[@cosmikskeptik9877]

False Dichotomy

[@psychicandice]

This right here is the argument evolutionary biologists need to use who debate “Creationists.” I could not have said it in better words.

[@chadrasmussen6127]

Ya it does because how did we get here we eaither evolved or were created by someone or something those are the only two answers

[@GoZags43]

Chad Rasmussen You literally just gave 3 possible answers there you dolt.

[@elcrow113]

@@chadrasmussen6127 what about some unknown quantum event that sprung life into existence? There's a third option, so you are creating a false dichotomy.

[@DrPommels]

Ron's complete lack of understanding of science is breathtaking!

[@raysalmon6566]

Well Matt is worse

[@raysalmon6566]

@Sticky Steve Why would that be important

[@raysalmon6566]

@Sticky Steve So what your favourite skeptic sites

[@raysalmon6566]

@Sticky Steve Satan is also a very intelligent person and He is very popular these days

[@raysalmon6566]

@Sticky Steve Sounds like you just do bible ping pong I read the new testament on a reading plan Mathew to Revealation in a year.

[@hplovehandle]

There's nearly 2500 autoimmune diseases. Great design.

when religious people try to be rational, it's like watching a kid pretending to be an adult.

[@sango3128]

Except kids stop pretending at some point and actually grow up.

[@alabamamothman2986]

Watching atheist is like the mother who thinks everyone is out of step except her son.

[@geyaneya1498]

@@alabamamothman2986 What?

[@swifteden]

@@geyaneya1498 LOL his incoherence made me laugh

[@raysalmon6566]

Martin Stu. . 9 months ago. . when religious people try to be rational, it's like watching a kid pretending to be an adult.. 4 replies. 57 likes. john 18 37 Then Pilate said to him, “So you are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world-to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” so who do you really listen to

[@jeff6660]

I don't think we will be seeing Ron on stage accepting a Nobel Prize.....eeever.

[@TheSnoeedog]

I don't think we'll see Ron doing up his own buttons or cutting his own food.....ever

[@biekgiek]

Ron needs to call Forrest Valkai so he can speak with a biologist.

[@tristanmisja]

And so he can get Forrests great mini-lessons!

[@davids11131113]

‘Atheism’ is not ‘belief in evolution’. RocketRonnie TrueEmpiricism still does not understand this after many years 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@WintersunExtras]

@@kentonbaird1723 TrueEmpiricism is the only channel of his I'm aware of. His appearance on The Drunken Peasants was particularly amusing, they didn't put up with his shit.

[@iancastor69]

Also, I am not an atheist because I know evolution is true, I am an atheist because I have not been given enough evidence for the existance of God or gods.

[@siim605]

I've literally met atheists that don't believe in evolution. Not sure how that works, but these people exist.

[@TheSnoeedog]

@@siim605 Raëlians? ...heaven's gate? .....probably any aboriginal/animist faith that has an origin story but no all powerful deity...? I'm just spit-ballin' here....

[@Heathen.Deity.]

You don’t get wrong without ron.

[@tedgrant2]

Billions of people believe in a magic show that they haven't seen.

[@YY4Me133]

And every word in a book that many have never read.

[@tedgrant2]

@@YY4Me133 You are the first person to get it ! Good work.

[@cutlasssupreme6984]

Evolution? No way! Talking snake in a book written thousands of years ago real? Yes!

[@youtubebannedme4207]

dont forget about the talking donkey

[@BudgetFilmmaking]

Every person who doesn't accept evolution is a person who doesn't know what it is. And every person who knows what it is, accepts it. When the only way you can deny something is to be completely ignorant of it, that thing is a fact.

[@EGeorgev]

I like what some dude posted in another comment section regarding their argument for evolution being impossible. "Millimeters can never add up to a kilometer. It's just not possible!"

[@davidhoekstra8671]

That is indeed a very good observation.

[@92brunod]

Aging and growing one second at a time can never add up to a toddler becoming an adult. It's just not possible

[@mrechelon7051]

Walking one step at at time means you cannot walk a mile....hmmm

[@eamontdmas]

It's a strange claim to say that a vast number of small changes over millions of years would not add up to large changes. Its like denying that a million pennies would not add up to £10,000.

[@raysalmon6566]

Species degrade and eventually go extinct there are no replacements

[@plowenson]

An hour is fine but a year, that's impossible 😂

[@mykehog6646]

@@raysalmon6566 that is an INCORRECT ASSUMPTION...but please..tell me about the " fact" of talking snakes...lol

[@Brammy007a]

@@raysalmon6566 Ray..... what the HELL does extinction have to do with evolution and speciation? Just because some species gets wiped out does not negate the fact that it evolved into what it was.

[@raysalmon6566]

@@Brammy007a evolution doesn't replace extinctions with any new or advanced species

[@daveyboy7964]

Ron disproves the concept of ID, just by being himself.

[@maskedathiest]

ron "i see no evidence that these small changes can accumulate to the specific structures that intelligent design is calling into question" me "so you believe god did it?" ron "yes me "oh alright then, what evidence do you have for that"? ron "i see no evidence that these small changes can accumulate to the specific structures that intelligent design is calling into question" me ????????????????????

[@at6686]

I can’t wait for a peer reviewed article on “god did it”.

[@jellyfishsii]

Every single time Matt has said "Evolution is a fact" he always clarifies the fact vs the theory. Every time I've seen him say that he's always clarified. And judging by how this conversation went I think Ron was selectively listening to those clips

[@alanthomson7770]

Ron couldn't select second gear !

[@burkeyatm]

Ron: gravity is also very complex, that doesn’t mean a god is required to cause it. Complexity is a perception, nature doesn’t care what you think.

[@darksoul479]

From now on the only debates I'm watching are the ones that have Matt or Aron.All the other hosts let these callers get away with murder. I'm so tired of it.... Thank you Matt. Well done.

[@grimsoncrow]

Tracy is pretty good at shutting down bullshit as well.

[@ToHoldNothing]

@@grimsoncrow I can't say that for sure, but my experience with her as main host is more just almost going in circles or an inability to get to the core with a caller, though that might be the callers in particular. She's eloquent, though that can also manifest as being longwinded at times, which I'm guilty of as well

[@paulrichards6894]

watch pinecreek

[@kenwalter3892]

Another win for Ronnie. According to Ronnie.

[@Brvnkaerv]

Why do you type, and then hit the enter button? Just type what you want to say. There is no reason to do that unless you want to waste people's time.

[@ottonormalverbrauch3794]

@ Maybe because entering a room just to fart or doing something else not contributing to a discussion is considered not polite and may be adressed?

[@matttoner2054]

Ron exhibited the whole motivation behind I.d. near the beginning - an anxiety that a scientifically literate populace will be unlikely to adopt conservative religious ideologies. I don't know how warranted that anxiety is, but if you read any of the Discovery Institute's internal literature, it's evident that this fear is the entire reason for the movement's existence. They believe more people will adopt positions and principles they approve of in a society with a heightened state of scientific illiteracy and distrust, and so they are attempting to visit this on their country.

[@GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub]

"Scientists don't like it when I muddy the waters" almost like you're arguing in bad faith

[@MikeWalkerSociologist]

Good crap... I wonder if Ron wears his tap shoes all the time.

[@carloctave]

Lol!!

[@kathyheitchue2022]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

Well hes a theist...

[@kampaseuth]

In 2019, Ron (True Empiricism), has lost everything. His reputation (not much to start with) is ruined, his self-esteem is rock bottom, his behaviour is still atrocious (his insinuations about Skylar, early this year, in now deleted hangouts). But he still begs for prayers for him. Ron Motormouth is a disgrace to humanity.

[@alanthomson7770]

Every time he opens his mouth he proves Darwinism

[@marksinclair946]

Ron just wants us to know how smart he is.

[@sergeyfox2298]

I will say: Ron rejecting Matt because he does not have a degree is the appeal to authority fallacy. Matt's demonstrated amazing ability to reason, that Matt is credible as an educator

[@mtbee9641]

It's always amazing that people cannot answer questions before they continue a discussion. It's as if by ignoring the question they can continue to claim they're right as if the question was never asked. Intellectually dishonest!

[@CronoXpono]

The sad part is that Ron sounds smart enough to HELP with investigating claims if he took of the “IT HAS TO BE THIS” glasses.

[@wildraconteuse2272]

Clinging to a book that was written in pre-science days, it's a problem. God of the microfractures.....

[@Turbomane86]

This caller must go by his middle name Ron rather than his first name Mo..

[@jaymorgan8013]

Leave Moron alone!

[@arjenbootsma6881]

I want Ron on my dodge-ball team!

[@TheSnoeedog]

I want him sterilized and his vote taken away...but I might be thinking more long-term than you are, lol

[@admstick]

‘No evidence’ - means he’s never read any of the science.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

So he speaks to intelligent people on line.....Doesn't show.

[@MrPilton]

Lol ... he speaks to them ... they don't reply so there is not a conversation.

[@arsenic1987]

I know Matt often say "Why are you calling us?" in response to evolution questions, but he does know _why_. Cause creationists _require_ the Theory of Evolution to be false. One of many that they need to be false to even "start" proof of their god.

[@donmiller2908]

Right. If evolution is true, there is no reason to have a Savior. Jesus's services would no longer be required.

[@tedgrant2]

I've got wishing frogs in my garden pond. Every year, when I see the wishing frogs, I make a wish. I wish that there will soon be tadpoles in the pond. Every year my wish comes true.

[@Gwaithmir]

Ron is like an ignorant little kid who keeps stamping his foot and yelling, "No, it isn't! No, it ISN'T!"

[@CarMaBear]

Did anyone else picture Ron huddled over a computer muttering to himself (".... gotcha! Ohhh I got ya, Dillahunty....") as he pores through episodes of ATX?

[@eamontdmas]

I don't have a degree in swimming, playing the guitar, being a parent or eating chocolate... Despite what Ron says I am an expert in all of these things... except for swimming and playing the guitar and being a parent, in which I am merely average...

[@mr.allitknow3777]

Ron from Chicago , who's youtube alter ego is true empiricism is the NIT part of an undynamic duo. Gary from New Jersey who's youtube alter ego is g-man is the WIT part of that undynamic duo.

[@thefub101]

I saw this Ron clown on a debate type thing, does anyone know if there's any more content from him ? He's hilarious 😅

[@Stuartharrod1]

“I’m not intelligent enough therefore Yahweh!”

[@tera1755]

Matt’s patience in this clip is admirable. Mine, not as much so lol.

[@whatsupinspace854]

14:10 _"Some scientists I talked to don't like it when I tried to muddy the waters"_

[@glenhill9884]

"intelligent design is a causal argument calling into question previous knowledge in the past" UH, NO. It attempts to poke holes in things like evolution, yes, but it offers NO OTHER SOLUTION.

[@jamesmurphy2451]

In the age of 21st century information..ignorance is a choice

[@anapeiroten4182]

Its truly mind boggling to me coming from Scotland where these folk thankfully dont exist ,or if they do they're such a minority as to be irrelevant . So sorry American.

[@blaqueup]

Kind of an older post, just saw it. But something that stood out is the caller never even tried to address Phil's question as to what positive claims ID has, besides sitting around nitpicking evolution.

[@some-one-else]

How entitled to think that you have the right to a discussion when someone has clearly stated that they aren't interested. Ron acts like Matt is being ridiculous (and even says it at some point) simple by not wanting to have an irrelevant discussion.

[@pattystephens8129]

Adaptation can lead to evolution the way ignorance can lead to religion.

[@sparki9085]

"i talk with biologists all the time!" Uh huh, sure you do ron. If you're not lying, you definitely weren't listening to them.

[@scotttchviski6706]

Criminals talk to lawyers all the time.

[@slimjim227]

Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humour, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won’t mistake for the real thing” Nathan Poe. This guy was the real thing......

[@robertpreston2220]

Ron just brought shame to the great city of Chicago!

[@americanpatriot8426]

Robert Preston Great murder capital. Also a liberal cesspool. I live in Dallas so I would know. I’ve also been to chicago a few times. That city is horrible. I cant wait to live in Fort Worth.

[@robertpreston2220]

@@americanpatriot8426 Chicago is the greatest city on earth I know that for a fact which is why we chose to live here over all other places

[@seanjones2456]

@@robertpreston2220 American Patriot wears a helmet and rides the short bus.

[@robertpreston2220]

@@seanjones2456 sure seems that way

[@jewsco]

@@americanpatriot8426 how is Texas now after your power went out dimwit ?

[@RaulPerez-jj5jj]

Its mind blowing to hear a christian call a scientific fact a fairytale. Mindblowing.

[@pablopopo7891]

The caller was about to claim that sometimes just because someone is an outlier they are not incorrect; which is irrelevant to the question being asked. Yes, there are times when an outlier is correct and the majority is incorrect, however, does that occur the majority of the time? No. So the answer to the question being asked (if two people claim their models are correct; one of whose model abides by the conclusions of the bulk of experts in the field being discussed and the other whose model doesn't agree with the majority of experts, then usually who is correct?) is, "the one who agrees with the majority of experts". The question had nothing to do with who IS correct but rather who is USUALLY correct. The caller was unable to discern this and so was about to incorrectly apply the ad populum fallacy.

[@ToHoldNothing]

Or the Galileo gambit, which is basically that if you're mocked for your ideas or otherwise rejected by the majority, you must be advancing something that's true His appeal to mere "evidence" seems to be personal incredulity fallacy: he doesn't see the evidence as pointing to natural selection and he invoked irreducible complexity, which is already applying an anthropic principle, a problem in itself, so yeah...indoctrinated by Kent Hovind or the like potentially in saying "I believe in this, but this other stuff isn't science"

[@geezzerboy]

"the proof is on my lap-top at home." and "the check is in the mail."

[@paulschenkel1660]

All the evidence points to the light lighting up when I move the switch, Ron says,I don't see the evidence.

[@bradgaines]

I love how people with zero expertise in a scientific field of study try to undermine the theories from experts in the field.

[@Jenalgo]

That caller may as well just come on and said "I is butt hurt cos science has disproved my huuly buuk, and I want to take my anger out on an atheist".

[@michelerich1590]

Phil just regurgitating Matt but taking twice as long lol I love him

[@jamesleighdavis138]

Nice try Ron, but you failed miserably with your argument in ways too numerous to name in a single comment.

[@jofox1186]

I think Ron's been listening to people who are playing fast and loose with the truth.

[@timfahey7127]

Caller: "I'll get to that right now...in a second" ......🤔

[@FourDeuce01]

Matt: “There’s AN argument for intelligent design?” There are lots of them, and they’re all bad.😈

[@bmoshareholderappleshareho855]

If there is a God out there, then he screwed up. He failed to evenly distribute the gift of beauty. For some unknown reason, he just did not see it fit to bless every man and woman with super good looks. He's not so wonderful after all.

[@skimmingstone3energyrecords]

Ron sounds like a mature Kermit the frog.

[@steveswangler6373]

Did Ron actually say intelligent design advocates have peer review because they started their own peer review process? Or did I hear that wrong

[@ED-le1pr]

I like to revisit this call just for a good laugh. A classic

[@andreasplosky8516]

Ron thinks that drops of water can form a lake, but never an ocean.

[@rhondah1587]

The most critical flaw in ID is that they have no data on the existence or need of the designer. They want to infer a designer without proving such could even exist while the overwhelming evidence we do have clearly infers a purely natural process.

[@ToHoldNothing]

And if they could, then the designer is merely a powerful entity that essentially does nothing otherwise, because that gets into the religious claims that still haven't been demonstrated of intervention with prayer and such. This designer could be the Ellimist from Animorphs or some other sci fi entity of surprising abilities and qualities, but still within natural occurrences and thus verifiable and falsifiable with science. If it's outside scientific consideration, you're into philosophy at that point or pseudoscience to be "generous"

[@davec-1378]

I suspect strongly that Ronnie did not listen to the actual context when Matt said whatever it is he said Matt is typically very careful about not conflating evolution and the theory that explains that fact

[@vilkoskorlich259]

12:43pm Oct 29, 2019 Australian scientists may have solved one of the biggest mysteries in science: where do we come from? The ground-breaking discovery published in the journal Nature on Tuesday reveals what scientists believe is the ancestral 'homeland' of human-beings. And they say the research has the potential to provide insights not only into our past, but into our future. "Now, we can finally tell the story of us," said Professor Vanessa Hayes, the Sydney-based academic who led the study. What does the new research tell us? It is well-established among scientists that the history of modern humans can be traced to Africa. However, the new research shows humans do not originate from East Africa, as it was previously thought, but from Southern Africa. Her team followed the trail of mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on unchanged from a mother to her child, with the hope of tracing the thread back to our earliest female ancestors. That led her first to the Kalahari Desert, and then to the Khoesan (pronounced koh sahn) people, a group identified through their use of a clicking language. "They represent a lineage that never left the homeland," Professor Hayes said. The research combines a broad variety of knowledge and evidence to piece together a history of the first human begins. "Instead of just releasing a paper with a whole bunch of data from one field of study, we could tell the story." Professor Hayes said. She said one of the most exciting opportunities for science will be understanding who we are genetically in order to tackle disease. "These are the people that represent the longest line of modern humans and therefore they are healthy because they've survived the longest," she said. "To understand disease, we have to understand 'healthy' and the genomic definition of health." Her research will focus particularly on prostate cancer. "Prostate cancer has a strong link to Africa, so we need to understand the genetic link to Africa to understand more about these diseases and how they work in modern society."

[@vilkoskorlich259]

LAW of LOGIC? There is zero evidence for a creator. This planet was not created for humans. The deadliest animal on Earth isn't a snake or a shark, or even human. It's something most of us view as just a mild nuisance - the mosquito. The tiny insect is responsible for a million deaths a year, largely because it transmits terrible diseases like malaria, dengue, Zika and encephalitis. Intelligent Design & Ontological Teeth! We are so well designed that we have teeth that can, and do, rot and fall out in excruciating pain and then don't grow back. Shark's teeth, however, do grow back. If we are more important to the "designer" than a bunch of lousy killer fish, how come they can regrow teeth while we get stuck with the options of gumming our food, implants, or dentures (the latter two options being quite expensive)? Damnit!?

[@biancalawrence3178]

Do your callers not watch any of your previous shows? You have to give the same argument over and over. Must be tedious for you!! Was born and raised as an atheist so have no religious "baggage". Subscribed. Excellent programme.

[@americanpatriot8426]

Science is the best observation of facts. Science is not 100 % factual it improves to meet the best evidence.

[@Nivola1953]

Just to put the dot on the i, Intelligent Design is Creationism “rebranded” to make look like not religious. I’m not the one saying that, the judge in the Kitzmiller v. Dover did in his sentence of 2004 when he found out that they just changed the titles of the book from one to the other.

[@dannielz6]

Ron needs to read "The Greatest show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins.

[@insanetester1015]

Are you certain that he knows how to read?

[@ProfezorSnayp]

Ron reads only one book. THE book.

[@paulmelville2126]

I’m not sure Ron knows how to read. He gets all his ideas from Google

[@AstronomyGuru84]

Evolution vs. Creationism is no longer a debate.

[@Rob-fc9wg]

Nor should it ever have been.

[@merlin72001]

Dunning Kruger personified

[@TBfan4ever1]

Examples of evolution: - Merychippus insignis > Pliohippus leidyanus > Equus amerhippus - Homo heidelbergensis > Homo neanderthalensis > Homo sapiens - Polytheist > Monotheist > Atheist

[@kwj171068]

Ronnie getting his ass handed to him and not for the first time.

[@glenntomkyns1286]

How far have we come in 2000 years, invisible man in the sky did everything.

[@jshaers96]

Ron is so ornery. If you asked him if he wanted a cup of coffee he'd turn it into an argument.

[@TheSnoeedog]

that's actually the erection you hear, straining against his pants. Throwing a good fuck into someone would do him some good.

[@bpdmf2798]

Thanks for not letting him just drive into his script.

[@jfst6578]

Matt put that snus or whatever it was in like a boss.

[@facundocesa4931]

I'm surprised Matt didn't point out the caller was just making ● arguments from ignorance, ● arguments from personal incredulity, ● trying to poke holes in the evolutionary model, trying to smuggle a false dichotomy.

[@philiptoner8719]

Someone should tell Ron that it is impossoble for him to see the evidence with his head up his but

[@sudburylawyer]

“I talk to biologists all the time,online”. Sure you do.

[@vizzini2510]

Is "Ron" short for "Moron"?

[@renejean2523]

lol 'Ron' is also three fifths of the word 'wrong'.

[@simonzai7386]

Phil Session ! Ha! Why does that make me chuckle? 😃

[@plowenson]

America needs as better school system.. Well, it makes good comedy.

[@barryweatherley5046]

If all of existence were designed by a creator and humans are so terribly “designed” then the creator wouldn’t be so intelligent.

[@Stuartharrod1]

He’s insane

[@noah7477]

This guys youtube channel is trueempiricism