Evolution of Combat in Star Wars

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@qtreis
@qtreis 4 жыл бұрын
The Old Republic Troopers went hand-to-hand against Sith Warriors. I say that’s badass.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Galindez But not cheap.
@flexangelo
@flexangelo 4 жыл бұрын
Frankly that was just that one Soldier who fucked Satele
@viethoangphan1499
@viethoangphan1499 4 жыл бұрын
They are Havoc squad, elite trooper, they maybe can go hand to hand against Sith warrior. The other grunts, not so much.
@jayvhoncalma3458
@jayvhoncalma3458 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's pretty badass
@EternalWolf08
@EternalWolf08 4 жыл бұрын
The overall quality of force users, both jedi and sith, were toned down during that time.
@s4m_1223
@s4m_1223 4 жыл бұрын
Sith Troopers: We’re the best! Death Troopers: No, we are! ARC Troopers: Y’all saying something?
@OrthodoxLegion907
@OrthodoxLegion907 4 жыл бұрын
Saemin Kang Clone Commandos:Hold my bacta!!!
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 4 жыл бұрын
Terran SOF operators: "Fxxx off u sxxxholes! U guys are so awful at any ground based warfare!"
@Shadowpack95
@Shadowpack95 4 жыл бұрын
the mandalorian super commandoes would like to chime in
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Knights of Ren: Leave quietly.
@BlackAngus69
@BlackAngus69 4 жыл бұрын
Republic Commando: *laughs in bacta*
@shriterk8995
@shriterk8995 4 жыл бұрын
Jedi “ oh blasters are so crude and uncivilized” Also Jedi “but decapitation is ok”
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 4 жыл бұрын
An at times... basically mind raping...
@hiboomer1191
@hiboomer1191 4 жыл бұрын
Quick death?
@thesaltiestfry1681
@thesaltiestfry1681 4 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t bleed out, it’s some BS thing about the blaster bolts stopping blood from flowing out.
@shriterk8995
@shriterk8995 4 жыл бұрын
Dominater 995 it’s called cauterization
@daevster6663
@daevster6663 4 жыл бұрын
Crispy Spam thanks for reiterating what was previously established twice already. Thanks bud you’re doing the lords work🙏
@chasedimond8779
@chasedimond8779 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the people in the lower levels of coruscant don’t live in luxury so being in the military would be a step up for them
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
That is true for 99% people in Star Wars.
@brandonwheeler9544
@brandonwheeler9544 4 жыл бұрын
Depends what military lol
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonwheeler9544 Stormtroopers were in fact well payed. At least those in the Empire.
@Southern_Crusader
@Southern_Crusader 4 жыл бұрын
Literally.
@davidmauriciogutierrezespi5244
@davidmauriciogutierrezespi5244 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget some of the citizens of Coruscant thought that the sky wasn't real... That's messed up, I bet the could have a standard and permanent armed forces with those guy's alone
@andus5744
@andus5744 4 жыл бұрын
"Look at how precise these stormtroopers are firing into a crowd of innocent terrorists"
@ChidoriReaper
@ChidoriReaper 4 жыл бұрын
Andus "Innocent"
@johnnyunderhillproductions8346
@johnnyunderhillproductions8346 4 жыл бұрын
Best line
@thesaltiestfry1681
@thesaltiestfry1681 4 жыл бұрын
This totally contradicts itself.
@TheCrackedFirebird
@TheCrackedFirebird 4 жыл бұрын
We call those acceptable Casualties.
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 4 жыл бұрын
Standardized culling.
@rejaxreject8422
@rejaxreject8422 4 жыл бұрын
“Innocent terrorists” best line I have ever heard
@Cybernaut551
@Cybernaut551 4 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm.
@RobertoBlake
@RobertoBlake 4 жыл бұрын
In really shocked that nobody questioned the Clone Army further and investigated more thoroughly
@marktunes
@marktunes 3 жыл бұрын
The jedi did and found out it was the count that ordered its creation. They kept it classified.
@lanemontoya518
@lanemontoya518 3 жыл бұрын
@@marktunes Except Sifo-Dyas ordered the Clones, did he not?
@marktunes
@marktunes 3 жыл бұрын
@@lanemontoya518 Master Kenobi was told by Jango Fet that he was recruited by a man called Tyrannus, in the movie The Clone Wars. Then the Jedi discovered Tyrannus was an alias of Count Dooku, in episode 10 of season 6 (The Lost One) from Star Wars The Clone Wars TV Series. The Jedi counsel thus became aware of the origin of the clones as "an army made for us by our enemy" under the name Sifo-Dyas. But chose to keep this secret from the public and the Chancellor because it was the "only path" to avoid mass panic. Also in season 6 the incident with a defective clone control bio chip led to an investigation of the chips, but the Chancellor and the Kaminoans expertly deceived the Jedi into believing the chips were just a safe guard to restrain aggressive and unpredictable behavior, they were clones of a Mandalorian after all. The incident was excused by the Chancellor as both clone troopers involved cough a rare parasite that degraded the chip and caused aggressive and unpredictable behavior. The incident was swept under the rug and the rest is history. Episodes 1 to 4 of season 6 from Star wars The Clone Wars.
@Leo-vr3bg
@Leo-vr3bg 3 жыл бұрын
Because it’s a movie
@NemesisSP
@NemesisSP 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leo-vr3bg People who say "It's just a movie" are just killjoys looking to be assholes. Congrats for proving that you one of those assholes.
@trumbitis7980
@trumbitis7980 4 жыл бұрын
Knights of the old republic sith troopers: we exist Rise of Skywalker sith troopers: unluckily for you history will not see it that way
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
What Sith Troopers? You mean Imperial Guards?
@trumbitis7980
@trumbitis7980 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRezro no
@theknightsofawesomeness2701
@theknightsofawesomeness2701 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the Rise of Skywalker Sith troopers got their name from KOTOR Sith troopers
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@@trumbitis7980 Ok, so they in fact are called that way. My bad.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@Adrock 99 Yes, but serving the Sith.
@acdc6151
@acdc6151 4 жыл бұрын
Generation Tech: War...... It changes bruh.
@topramen3795
@topramen3795 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars New Vegas
@larryblake842
@larryblake842 4 жыл бұрын
But the essence of war never changes. The way it is fought sure does change.
@centidogfisher2220
@centidogfisher2220 4 жыл бұрын
Larry Blake the way we fight wars may change but the conqunces never change
@AaronKarper
@AaronKarper 4 жыл бұрын
@@larryblake842 War... it never changes. But it does. But the essence doesn't. Unless we're talking real world. Then probably the essence changes too. Where was this prologue going?
@iliadnetfear2586
@iliadnetfear2586 4 жыл бұрын
Conflict never changes, war always does. The idea of conflict and fighting will always be the same, but warfare never stops changing.
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 4 жыл бұрын
There was one area the Empire and First Order significantly regressed from the Republic, that was in the use of airborne infantry with dedicated air support. TIEs were never as good at supporting the troops as the LAAT and they also lost a lot of ground mobility because of that.
@alexvieira7945
@alexvieira7945 4 жыл бұрын
I want a video about how and where starships are built.
@alexvieira7945
@alexvieira7945 4 жыл бұрын
@@NotSnidge well thanks, still want a video about it lol.
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure EckhartsLadder has something.
@somerandomperson1344
@somerandomperson1344 4 жыл бұрын
The most notable places where ships were built were Kuat, Corellia, and Fondor.
@Tar-Numendil
@Tar-Numendil 4 жыл бұрын
Look up Kuat, Rothana, Corellia, Fondor, Mon Calamari, Sluis Van, Anaxes, the Star Forge, the Maw Installation, Allanteen VI, Bothawui, Gallofree Yards, Gyndine Shipyards, Sullust, Koensayr Yards, Raxus Prime, Rendili, Ringo Vinda, Ubrikkian Yards, and Yaga Minor. Edit: Also Taerab Starship Manufacturing.
@samthemessiah9330
@samthemessiah9330 4 жыл бұрын
This is something I've actually always wanted to see
@jamesjung8931
@jamesjung8931 4 жыл бұрын
This actually makes so much sense. I love the military evolution of star wars (until the sequel trilogy) Before the clone wars planets had to defend themselves with fighters and small cruisers. They didnt have the resources to make and maintain capital ships. This ideology was used in the clone wars. The republic and CIS navy is based off this mindset. It used retrofitted civilian ships, consular, cr90, lukrehulk, munificent and created ships to support a fighter dominated warfare, venator and providence. The republic through the development and use of victory class and probably prototype ISDs found out heavier, stronger ships were more effective in a conventional war. So with the trasition into an empire, with this mindset, they built more and more ISDs. But to have hands on control of the galaxy ISDs were too expensive and resourse intensive. (Even the republic couldn't patrol the entire galaxy) That's were the tarkin doctrine comes in. Control the galaxy through fear. But the tarkin doctire military was ineffective against rebels who use hit and run tactics. This evolution is amazing because you can see the military evolve. As the audience we can nitpick and see why this and that could've been done better, but within the lore, the military evolves using it's own history. The empire didnt know of the rebel threat when it created its military. It only had the clone wars to look to for guidance. A war that could've been prevented/won earlier if it had a heavier hand and stronger ships. Therefore the empire created the tarkin doctire and ISDs
@shivenrege6780
@shivenrege6780 4 жыл бұрын
"Then there is the message of hope" Shows Porg PORGS ARE THE HOPE OF THE GALAXY
@saintmichaelsarchangel2644
@saintmichaelsarchangel2644 4 жыл бұрын
Shiven Rege no porgs are the tasty Star Wars equivalent to chicken
@shivenrege6780
@shivenrege6780 4 жыл бұрын
@@saintmichaelsarchangel2644 yes but porgs are cuter
@julianmathe3713
@julianmathe3713 4 жыл бұрын
You made a mistake, you said the First Order invasion lasted from 0 ABY to 5 ABY. That is the GCW! You could've extended the video to the Old Republic era or beyond...
@youhan9574
@youhan9574 4 жыл бұрын
This is a history educational channel disguised as a Star Wars channel. I love it ~
@supastarvfr9534
@supastarvfr9534 4 жыл бұрын
Starkiller Base had such a long firing range that it had the option of travelling or not travelling to the system designated to be destroyed. Death Stars had to pull hyperspace jumps for every attack.
@N120Xeno
@N120Xeno 4 жыл бұрын
Well Starkiller couldn’t hyperspace jump. The Death Star could always be on the move like the galaxy gun. So I guess it evens out.
@bananamango2910
@bananamango2910 4 жыл бұрын
So... the clone wars were a combination of the american revolution and the Vietnam war? Edit: and ww2. Let me explain. There were iconic troop transports that could hover. Dog fights at a close range happened.
@TU-mf2ut
@TU-mf2ut 4 жыл бұрын
Lucas ripped a lot from WW2 movies. The Death Star run was basically ripping a scene from a WW2 movie called the dam busters.
@worldconqueror2206
@worldconqueror2206 3 жыл бұрын
Its more like the clone wars featured combat more akin to that found in the revolutionary War and the napoleonic wars (throw everything at the enemy) Then the empire basically moves on to ww2 strategies against Vietnam guerrilla warfare (massive ships of the line, armored spearheads and superior firepower) The empire also creates planet killers whose impact are very similar to that of total nuclear devastation, this goes on to nearly a galaxy wide Armageddon much like how the cold war was played
@ARC-wo4qr
@ARC-wo4qr 4 жыл бұрын
10:59 Palpatine should have been like Michael Scott and tried to make people afraid of how much they loved him.
@Lord_Shadowz
@Lord_Shadowz 3 жыл бұрын
I WISH they had shown a First Order upgraded Imperial Star Destroyer. I know they made them automated to require a lot less crew. But I would have liked to have seen them. Maybe they protect worlds and assets in the Unknown Regions?
@stud_sidious
@stud_sidious 3 жыл бұрын
Rogue Squadron is said to be the best dog fighting war movie to date. I’m excited for all the new Star Wars content.
@CJ-442
@CJ-442 4 жыл бұрын
Devil’s advocate: I’m getting kind of sick of hearing about that one time where Anakin rammed his Venator into that Lucrehulk under the guise of surrender. In our world, yes, that’s terrible and sets a bad precedent. But you need to remember who it was they were fighting. The separatists were already breaking all the rules of engagement and had been committing numerous war crimes from the very start of the war. At that point, just pretending to surrender as you prepared a counterattack is tame in comparison. Also, keep in mind that surrendering to the CIS wasn’t really an option for a Jedi. You’d most likely either be executed on the spot or experience an “accident” on your way to your cell. Best case scenario, Dooku might see you as potentially useful, so you’d be tortured until you turn to the Dark Side and agree to join him.
@longboi2674
@longboi2674 4 жыл бұрын
Republic propaganda
@f5boDag
@f5boDag 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it was a warcrime at the hand of the most famous Jedi. The spacewar undoubtedly escalated in it's horror and dishonour from that point foward.
@owenhess6562
@owenhess6562 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I don’t recall there being any type of rules of war in the clone wars, since their hasn’t been a galactic conflict for 1000 years
@r7cowboy824
@r7cowboy824 4 жыл бұрын
There are no rules to war anyone who says so is on the losing side because if you let something as low as someone's word be enough for you to trust you deserve to have lost for not being smart enough to see the deceit a good example is the red wedding from game of thrones
@owenhess6562
@owenhess6562 4 жыл бұрын
R6 Cowboy I get what say, we lose are sense or moral in war, we become something else. But what im trying say is, the galaxy was at relative peace for a 1000 years. The idea if a rules of war didnt come across anyones mind, cause of the sudden outbreak of war
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 4 жыл бұрын
If Earth is in Star Wars, the Terrans are a master of any groundbased warfare and atmospheric combat. Even better than the Mandalorians!
@chloe_gospinny
@chloe_gospinny 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 4 жыл бұрын
@@chloe_gospinny thanks
@pokemaster123ism
@pokemaster123ism 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but any military capable of space travel can just drop orbital bombardment upon orbital bombardment to make us surrender
@Twadfire
@Twadfire 4 жыл бұрын
The fact we can shoot at stuff beyond "conveniently dramatic camera shot angle" helps a lot.
@kirknay
@kirknay 4 жыл бұрын
@@pokemaster123ism all we need is a single scout ship to enter atmosphere. We'll shoot it down, break it down in months, and have a full fleet in a year.
@lordshankracing4724
@lordshankracing4724 4 жыл бұрын
When i was little, I always new that the droids were the good guys. They were the good guys by the end of the clone wars.
@james35124
@james35124 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to explain the resistance's space "gravity" bomber
@dirtbagprivate289
@dirtbagprivate289 2 жыл бұрын
The republic fought like prussian forces during the napoleonic wars The empire was spread thin like ww1 germany The 1st order efficiently marched through like the 3rd Reich, but also wasted away from superweapons and crazy brass members
@richardarreola8180
@richardarreola8180 4 жыл бұрын
I have watched countless number of your vids. I really enjoy your presentation even when I disagree. Keep it up.
@oliverkearney
@oliverkearney 4 жыл бұрын
Generation Tech: we're not going to compare to this to the American war... This is more about taxation without representation
@gabe7933
@gabe7933 4 жыл бұрын
Oliver Kearney he’s talking about the civil war not the American revolution
@Outlawstar79
@Outlawstar79 4 жыл бұрын
@@gabe7933 this civil war wasn't about slavery, that is just what the North claimed since they won the war...it was actually over the same taxation issue and trying to bully the South.
@bigbabydoof7657
@bigbabydoof7657 4 жыл бұрын
@@Outlawstar79 fuck off, lepton
@YUSAF621
@YUSAF621 4 жыл бұрын
@@Outlawstar79 You mean war of Southern Independence.
@RebelRed-rt9ex
@RebelRed-rt9ex 4 жыл бұрын
@@YUSAF621 amen
@ChildofDust
@ChildofDust 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've spent hours watching war documentaries primarily WW2 and Vietnam. I can appreciate your perspective. Huge fan btw love the channel keep it up bro.
@noahgreer1497
@noahgreer1497 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you supplimented the First Order with battle droids like what the CIS had you'd make a more efficient military. Be interesting to see what kinda military doctrines you could play Frankenstein with.
@bigcheese3395
@bigcheese3395 4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t had time to see episode 9 and just finished watching episode 8 again and now I decided to drop everything and go watch episode 9
@musicalaviator
@musicalaviator 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes. Let go of your money. Let the hate flow through you. Darth Mickey commands it.
@cooldawg5575
@cooldawg5575 11 ай бұрын
Basic tie fighter: we have numbers. X wing: we can see around us. First order tie: who needs to see when I got a gunner in the back?
@volkan202
@volkan202 3 жыл бұрын
people like to compare clones and stormtroopers but it's important to remember that they were fighting different enemies in different wars clones were fighting a conventional war against a bunch of droids stormtroopers fought against an insurgency of living soldiers, and guerrilla warfare is ALOT harder to deal with then conventional warfare, Infact when the rebels try to fight a conventional war against the empire, they just straight up lose, almost always just something i felt needed to be pointed out
@H0wlrunn3r
@H0wlrunn3r 4 жыл бұрын
This week on Generation tech we’re gonna be talking about war and how it never changes 😂
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 4 жыл бұрын
How durable is Mandalorian armor in the Expanded Universe when compared to other armor sets like Spartan MJOLNIR armor or Terran Dominion armor? And how useful would they be in real life?
@christophersalinas2722
@christophersalinas2722 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Beskar?
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 4 жыл бұрын
Mandalorian armor, aside from a few cases isn't what we'd consider a powered exosuit like MJONIR or Space Marine (Starcraft and 40K) armor suits, so while it will offer significant protection and you can attach an array of gadgets it doesn't improve the operator's performance at strength or agility. And the other downfall is while the Beskar plates offer great protection, the wielder still has just his body glove to protect against kinetic impact like nearby explosions, which Halo armor actually has a dedicated layer of gel to keep the operator in one piece. Though a suit of that in real life would be extremely helpful against everything but artillery strikes.
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on if you add shields.
@Southern_Crusader
@Southern_Crusader 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is that it’d be impractical for actual warfare on Earth. Heavy armor is good to hopefully stop a round, but mobility is the name of the game. Kind of like how we no longer use full plate armor when bullets could easily penetrate them with enough velocity. Watch some of the guys who test those things, like how high a caliber body armor can stop.
@arx3516
@arx3516 4 жыл бұрын
@@Southern_Crusader the reason why they stopped using full plate armor has more to do with changes in tactics and military organization. A knight is a very wealthy individual that provides for his own really expensive equipment and has servants maintaining said equipment. In the late 17th century/early 18th century however we see the rise of national militaries, the equipment was paid for by the state, equipping every soldier with steel helmets and cuirasses was a bit too expensive.
@josiahschindel5195
@josiahschindel5195 4 жыл бұрын
can you guys do a video on how reys light saber is completely fine in TROS even after it got ripped in half in TLJ? would really appreciate getting that cleared up
@rootintootinnewton
@rootintootinnewton 4 жыл бұрын
"They were seen as monsters" *happy upbeat presumably house music proceeds to play*
@casbot71
@casbot71 4 жыл бұрын
Hang on, if… in The Rise of Skywalker the off the cuff comment to remove hyperspace ramming is correct… "Why not try the Holdo maneuver?" "That was a one in a million shot" That means there was only a 0.0001% of it working and a 99.9999% chance of Holdo either getting away (assuming the Supremacy didn't follow the jump) or just splatting on the front of the Supremacy's shields, like a GR75 on the front of the Devastator's shields over Scarff.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
Hyperspace Ramming was in Expanded Universe you imbeciles 0_0 But it isn't something easy to set off. What ignoramus dipshits don't understand is that Holdo set specific trap to make it work. She use for example fact that they were convinced that Rhodus is out of fuel and didn't try avoid ramming and they ship was too massive to do that anyway. And for reminder in Return of the Jedi A-Wing take out whole Super Star Destroyer, so what problem people have again?
@MrGalagoth
@MrGalagoth 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRezro that A-Wing did not jump to hyperspace it just rammed the bridge
@ToddTheTolerable
@ToddTheTolerable 4 жыл бұрын
My headcanon says Holdo was a coward and thought she'd escape but accidentially rammed the Supremacy and destroyed it.
@Haywire-mi5fq
@Haywire-mi5fq 4 жыл бұрын
ToddTheTolerable sounds about right
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrGalagoth Irrelevant.
@midniteoyl8913
@midniteoyl8913 4 жыл бұрын
Has anybody ever explained how Starkiller Base was able to shoot planets so far away so quickly? Speed of light is actually really slow at space distances. Or how Han and Finn and them were able to see it happen from where they were?
@grayflaneur4854
@grayflaneur4854 4 жыл бұрын
It's in the script...
@robb1914
@robb1914 Жыл бұрын
Star Wars has a lot of unrealistic science haha
@Spoder_07
@Spoder_07 Жыл бұрын
I think the official explanation is that the destruction was so big the perturbance it created in the force allowed it to be visible everywhere at once. Yeah I don’t vine with it either but whatever
@annusrideviravindran6396
@annusrideviravindran6396 4 жыл бұрын
The more Star Wars grow, the clanker the combat will be
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 4 жыл бұрын
A collection of all the combat scenes, with absolute minimal backstory/context, from all the Star Wars films in story order would be great. Sequel trilogy pulled the franchise off the rails storywise.
@pokemaster123ism
@pokemaster123ism 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, you guys should do a crossover with Eckharts ladder
@little_isalina
@little_isalina 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta love the Star Wars EU for all its post-hoc rationalizations for why all their military technology designs and strategies are trash.
@skootmeister3994
@skootmeister3994 2 жыл бұрын
“War never changes, but the world it’s fought in does.”
@marco.castiglia
@marco.castiglia 2 жыл бұрын
By matter of odds, characters that can be built up, Star Wars has an infinite narrative potential
@MissMalevolent
@MissMalevolent 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've never been this early.
@ryanhickman3335
@ryanhickman3335 4 жыл бұрын
How?
@gabrielmunoz7342
@gabrielmunoz7342 4 жыл бұрын
It’s treason then
@chloe_gospinny
@chloe_gospinny 4 жыл бұрын
How is this comment from an hour ago? It only released 20 minutes ago.
@ghoststory3121
@ghoststory3121 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve never cared less
@MissMalevolent
@MissMalevolent 4 жыл бұрын
@@ghoststory3121 Apathy doesn't usually come in the form of a comment. You're doing it wrong.
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're having too high regard of the First Order compared to the Empire They might improved on certain aspects going for a quality over Quantity Tactic since after all they were the Attackers but their sheer inability to succeed at anything makes it hard to believe they're actually led by competent technocrats and certain ships including the Dreadnought have severe flaws
@mikeknight42
@mikeknight42 3 жыл бұрын
It would have been cool to have seen some more repurposed old droid technology. It seems like battle droids were better back even before the clone wars and people just stopped using them.
@ACEnBEAKY
@ACEnBEAKY 3 жыл бұрын
The First Order had potential to be more unique from the Galactic Empire, a meaner, leaner version, the marines to it's army. It could have felt like something that was a spiritual successor to the Imperials while at the same time being it's own thing. It wouldn't have been as powerful, but it could have done a good job with what it had. If Star Wars took notes from Mass Effect and Metro, the Resistance and last elements of the New Republic could have had their work cut out for them by not only having to deal with updated bite sized Empire, but also other factions, too. Think about how in Metro, the good guys had to deal with both the Reich and the Red Line, with some secret feudal illuminati faction controlling all the other factions from the shadows (as well as a nuclear wasteland haunted by mutants-Star Wars could be the leftovers of worlds terraformed by the Vong if grafted with legends, and possibly the FO deploying Death Wing Zombie virus on vulnerable planets). Also think about how in Mass Effect 3 you had to deal with the Reapers and Cerberus at the same time. The Resistance and New Republic wouldn't just be challenged by space nazis, but undermined by space commies doing an evil version of their values, coming full circle (think if the Dathomir Witches and Diversity Alliance from legends started gaining support). This revolutionary anti human and jedi sentiment would actually feed into people supporting or tolerating the First Order, and all factions would be manipulated from the shadows by a space Illuminati of sorts, possibly based in Canto Byte, perhaps guided by the spirit of Darth Plaguis. It also would have made it more unique if the Resistance actually tried to undermine the FO by doing rescue missions of the children they recruited so that they could save them before indoctrination. This would not only show that the Resistance was trying to be humane and ideal, but that it would adapt to the situation. There would be a lot of batman esque non lethal combat scenarios and tactics used to minimize under age trainees regarded as innocents. But the movies were rushed and they didn't give it wiggle room to grow and establish itself as different. Some of the books did, which is cool if you get to read them, but it would have been better if we saw it fleshed out in a TV series like the Clone wars. No, not Resistance. That was nothing but filler.
@fastbay
@fastbay 4 жыл бұрын
Civil war, was based on both slavery an taxation. Also before the war slavery was slowly dieing out.
@jameskosusnik1102
@jameskosusnik1102 4 жыл бұрын
That's what southern propaganda wants you to think literally 8 of states in the confederacy literally stated slavery in their articles of confederation... stop drinking the koolaid.
@jameskosusnik1102
@jameskosusnik1102 4 жыл бұрын
@@triggerme6144 lol okay the north clearly shouldve treated the south like rome treated judea for their rebellion, the south committed treason.
@Southern_Crusader
@Southern_Crusader 4 жыл бұрын
It was a arrogant undertone that is what helped galvanize more idealistic republicans against the confederacy. The war was really in the making for many years with tensions between the more industrialists north and The more agricultural south. The wealthier and more politically prominent southern rebels used the cause of States Rights to really gain support of the populace because like recent democrats, they feared Lincoln would just out law one of their key forms of income without say from the people there. The North fought under the banner of unity and preserving the union because before the war Lincoln actually stated he’d ease off on his anti slavery platform to hopefully avoid blood shed, but when they revealed regardless (remember tensions had been rising for decades), he eventually made it policy to outlaw slavery after Gettysburg so that European nations wouldn’t send over support to the South because they’d already out lawns it to a capacity there. The war was a mess of blood and personal grudges, that eventually helped resolve a lot of issues in our nation. Star Wars is simpler.
@Southern_Crusader
@Southern_Crusader 4 жыл бұрын
While that would have been expected, Lincoln instead wanted to just reunite and focus on rebuilding. That’s why we also revere him, because his ability to look past grudges and try to do his duty to the people. It would have further divided the nation if he had done that, so by instead forgiving them he helped resolve tensions much faster.
@Halloyaw11
@Halloyaw11 4 жыл бұрын
@@jameskosusnik1102 "Southern propaganda"? Typical fucking yankee.
@Dawnlighter
@Dawnlighter 4 жыл бұрын
The First Order. Hmm. The remnants of a defeated empire that fled to an unexplored region of space, build up their forces, corrected what was wrong with their forces last time, then out of nowhere returned to known space and launched a sudden attack that caught- wait, I've heard this somewhere before... *peers at the Star Wars: The Old Republic box* hmmmm....
@canisarcani
@canisarcani 4 жыл бұрын
disney cannot make their own content, they have to steal from others work and claim it as their own... disney canon is basically the sonic fandom on deviantart.. they literally just put a reskin or recolor on things and claim it as their own.
@arandomsquidward7761
@arandomsquidward7761 4 жыл бұрын
Zerg Rush, It always works!
@mygamingexperience5989
@mygamingexperience5989 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Alan from Generation Tech What if Darth Sidious kept making the clone army and kept recruiting citizens at the same to fight the Rebellion during the Galactic Civil War. Can you please make a video about it please.
@toddhoward1383
@toddhoward1383 4 жыл бұрын
War, War Never Changes
@victorbruant389
@victorbruant389 4 жыл бұрын
"Evolution"...don't you mean devolution?
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 4 жыл бұрын
Make sense.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
It got worse with Disney
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@@akumaking1 We don't see large scale combat you idiot 0_0
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@Sightless_Seeker What good writing? SW writing was good for 70's, so?
@bk8541
@bk8541 4 жыл бұрын
A VERY FRESH AND UNIQUE WAY TO LOOK AT STAR WARS, AWESOME CHANNEL
@blakeetter280
@blakeetter280 3 жыл бұрын
death star actually had a huge advantage over starkiller base, well two but ones not certain. short one is that the deathstar didnt consume it power source completly, seeing as it was run on the mythical Kyber crystal (spell check?) and possibly some other fuel source it could be refilled, just stop off at a gas giant or something (bad pun). Starkiller base however feeds off a star and even completely consumed it in its activation that second time. I dont think the deathstar would ever have that problem and it really limits the usefulness to the first order if that super weapon they spent so much time on didnt work more than twice. like yeah maybe you wiped out your enemy but more will spawn. And the long one is that the deathstar can move. like starkiller base is stuck in one place, forever. it aint moving and its a planet, in star wars terms that can be majorly fucked with. plus its a distant weapon whereas the deathstar could loom over any planet it chose with minimum difficulty, because if you though a star destroyer was bad get ready to piss your pants. this actually gave it several advantages such as retreating or suddenly appearing to nuke a rebel planet into dust. Plus it could retreat if it was damaged and it was infinitely harder to infiltrate (not that han had any trouble) because the entire thing was a machine, that lightspeed trick never would have worked on the deathstar. star killer base did lack the core that was a trap in the deathstar but they still managed to make a planet vulnerable to a single X-Wing so, bad planning. The on planet shield was smart though and technically hyperspace would have bypassed it but it would be unlikely to actually reenter anywhere on the actual planet unless a droid is doing it, and even then star wars droids arent impressive like that. that was more than two but whatever, two main ones.
@chrisg4314
@chrisg4314 4 жыл бұрын
Why do people dislike? They didn’t evolve in combat it seems
@olafgurke4699
@olafgurke4699 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't evolve, period.
@user-rl3gc5ki1y
@user-rl3gc5ki1y 4 жыл бұрын
I got the notification for this vid 4 minutes ago and their are some comments that are 4 hours old
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Patreons.
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 4 жыл бұрын
Love your star wars content and star wars combat
@patrickchristine2661
@patrickchristine2661 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any way that we could continue our Clone Wars history? I've waited a long time to hear the rest.
@robbycarlson6133
@robbycarlson6133 4 жыл бұрын
Its coming up soon
@elitespartnops1149
@elitespartnops1149 4 жыл бұрын
Thanos: War... it never changes Generation Tech: ACTUALLY
@TheEverseer
@TheEverseer 4 жыл бұрын
So long and thank you for all the fish! Happy New Year to all the great peeps at Generation Tech! Oh...and Allan guessing you've not escaped from the Dolphins yet, so just threaten to turn them into cans of Tuna and see if that helps you escape their clutches hehe ;)
@GamerLoRd118516
@GamerLoRd118516 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the american civil war wasnt about slavery, Abraham said he wouldn't do it if he didn't have to, it was about the southern states declaring independence (if I got anything wrong about why the southern states declared war please tell me)
@crazyguy1mania537
@crazyguy1mania537 4 жыл бұрын
There should be a video on Old Republic troopers vs. Old Republic sith warriors.
@pokemaster123ism
@pokemaster123ism 4 жыл бұрын
0:39 so what you’re saying is... war has changed?
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
Not in the principle...
@viperson9818
@viperson9818 4 жыл бұрын
The first order doesn’t get enough credit for their strategy and planning. The resistance got too much credit, they basically didn’t do anything as a insurgent group. All they did was pleaded for help, the rebellion had to earn their allies. The resistance asked J.J. for an army and he gave them one, copy and pasted dozen more raddus like ships, medic frigates, ugly star fortresses. We ask ourselves how did the FO get so big, real question where did all of the resistance allies come from?
@forceman4795
@forceman4795 4 жыл бұрын
viper Son blame ryan Johnson he basically said that the new republic immigrants folded and the navy was so small that it was all in one area it’s stupid
@BelRigh
@BelRigh 2 жыл бұрын
There is a really kewl book trilogy by John Ringo (I believe) called Troy Rising which is a "prequel" to the Sluggy Freelance" webcomic.... However in the books they build a "Deathstar" by burning off impurities from large Nickel/iron asteroids and then "inflating" it with boiling water.... The overall size is 9km, with a 1km skin of pure Nickel/iron....
@TheIndustrialRetrospective
@TheIndustrialRetrospective 3 жыл бұрын
I caught that RKO there... 👍
@BlackaceXRogue360
@BlackaceXRogue360 4 жыл бұрын
10:22 I think you mean TIE/LN, not “TIE/IN”
@ShurikenSean
@ShurikenSean 4 жыл бұрын
the first order strategists play D&D? no wonder they're more effective than the empire XD actually fits pretty well considering my friend in our star wars D&D who wants to reform the empire to be more effective and alot of what they're planning is the type of improvements the first order did. except he wants to use droids instead
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 4 жыл бұрын
Raise them on a diet of Xcom and they'll be ready for any rebels. The only they're missing from mine is a lot more light ships.
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 3 жыл бұрын
Happy music comes on at 6:50 when talking about war criminals . Weird
@codyconnor6981
@codyconnor6981 4 жыл бұрын
The Civil War and Clone Wars have a lot more in common than you think Alan.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 4 жыл бұрын
How would weapons and vehicles from Planetside 2 compare to the weapons and vehicles from Halo like the BR rifle and Scorpion tank?
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 4 жыл бұрын
Planetside 2 vehicles are better than UNSC vehicles.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 4 жыл бұрын
@@nobleman9393 Details about how it is please?
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 4 жыл бұрын
@@thorshammer7883 Let's compare Harasser to Warthog, Harasser has a better protected crew, the main armament is controlled from inside the vehicle, it can pass through force fields and repair itself (this requires additional modules) Harasser would also be faster than Warthog thanks to Turbo
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 4 жыл бұрын
@@nobleman9393 Thanks for replying. But what about the UNSC Scorpion and Glizzy tanks against Planetside 2 tanks? Also the Pelican and other fighters against Planetside 2 aircraft would be interesting to see.
@rv_354
@rv_354 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars: 1,000 years are a lot of time Warhammer 40k: sure...
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
It was between end of Old Republic and movies. Time frame is way longer.
@rv_354
@rv_354 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRezro ca. 1,005 years whilst in 40k theres next to no change in 10,000 years. It's just interesting how the different franchises deal with time
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@@rv_354 Old republic was established in 25,053 BBY. KotOR take place in 3956 BBY. What you reference is Ruusan Reformation what ended Old Republic and establish so called Great Peace (what was mostly a lie anyway).
@rv_354
@rv_354 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRezro as far as I know the Old Republic ended 1000 BBY and I thought he mostly talked about the time from it´s end to the clone wars
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын
@@rv_354 And how that is relevant to the subject?
@SuperShark28
@SuperShark28 3 жыл бұрын
This is so well thought out and super interesting. Thanks for the amazing video!
@Hll_bast
@Hll_bast 3 жыл бұрын
War never changes just means War is War
@xavierbrock4126
@xavierbrock4126 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Allen. I love you so much. I hope you're having a great day.
@jacksonbean3578
@jacksonbean3578 4 жыл бұрын
4:37 he does realize the American civil war started in the basis of unfair taxes and teriffs. Damn that got me fired up
@Jehtblu
@Jehtblu 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao darkest moments they show Luke kissing Leia, greatest accomplishment they show Vader being created. Too funny.
@Morally_Reprehensible
@Morally_Reprehensible 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@reverencerx873
@reverencerx873 4 жыл бұрын
The American civil war was about states rights, not slavery.
@benwalker3068
@benwalker3068 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, the troops become more incompetent each installment. (I haven't watched the video but I'm pretty sure the Empire and First Order would have lost to the Romans on the battlefield despite their superior technology.
@austingroce8020
@austingroce8020 3 жыл бұрын
One thing i noticed you missed which is kinda the core of star wars combat, I believe a great old force user once said “He who wears the armor of plot, wins the day”
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 4 жыл бұрын
18:12 they also had cheat codes and could pull men an ships out of thin air.
@Cybernaut551
@Cybernaut551 4 жыл бұрын
teleportation and hyperspace do the trick plus anything can happen in sci/fi as long as the author pleases.
@chrisyanover1777
@chrisyanover1777 2 жыл бұрын
At 17:49 we get a deadly RKO out of nowhere on General Hux!
@KatrinaLeFaye
@KatrinaLeFaye 4 жыл бұрын
The colors of your new studio rather make your skin tones look alien. Are you Alien? Humanity FIRST! Seriously though please check your lighting.
@Seangalanti
@Seangalanti 4 жыл бұрын
When the walls start speaking dolphin
@disbeafakename167
@disbeafakename167 4 жыл бұрын
It's time to speak Japanese
@ryansanico6539
@ryansanico6539 4 жыл бұрын
Great job on the great video thank you Generation Tech and Happy New Years 2020 Generation Tech.
@AsterionsLabyrith
@AsterionsLabyrith 4 жыл бұрын
Great video appreciate the information really got me back into Star Wars favorite character Captain Rex to this day
@lordsaucyboi3450
@lordsaucyboi3450 4 жыл бұрын
My friends called me a madman for saying that the empire was the good side, but then they rewatched/watched the movies... and saw that i was right
@jordann4686
@jordann4686 4 жыл бұрын
HuntingSix2008 If you think about it. The Jedi were blind and didn’t want to move forward but stay in power.
@jitbrady7158
@jitbrady7158 4 жыл бұрын
Dillon Brunschon Blew up one planet which was a terrorist breeding ground and was where the terrorists were being funded. They also “enslaved” terrorist fighters who would dare oppose the GREAT EMPIRE
@eccentricjoe5410
@eccentricjoe5410 4 жыл бұрын
At least troopers nowadays dont run out like the clones in the battle of geonosis lol(clones did look cooler tho)
@lol-un6nl
@lol-un6nl 4 жыл бұрын
But they ran out like that because the jedi generals were ordering them to
@Edward-oh2yn
@Edward-oh2yn 4 жыл бұрын
Jedi Generals were ordering them to do so. Retarded monks leading military personnel. Clones, who delved deep into military tactics and protocol at Kamino's Military Facilities, must've been like "what the absolute fuck you dumb shits" in their heads, but good soldiers follow fucking orders.
@GarretGarlinger
@GarretGarlinger 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! I enjoyed that!
@WeboKonAroz
@WeboKonAroz 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Hux get RKO'd made my year.
@youjustsaid4863
@youjustsaid4863 4 жыл бұрын
Taxation without representation....Clone Wars over similar premises to the American Revolution
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 жыл бұрын
"The Jedi and Sith The fight between freedom and control" We all know the Jedi are space monk control freaks. Freedom in the Sith!
@Shattered0Platinum
@Shattered0Platinum 4 жыл бұрын
Freedom for one and a half people is probably not the best defense of the empire
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shattered0Platinum Freedom in America! Means those who are in and of america, have freedom. Freedom in the Sith! The Siths empire, those who are in the empire have freedom,
@Shattered0Platinum
@Shattered0Platinum 4 жыл бұрын
@@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 unless you're not human, a republican, or live on a planet with any sort of natural wealth; in which case you're probably either killed or enslaved. I appreciate your energy, reminds me of the Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake, but applying that sort of logic to a universe where it has been explicitly shown to in fact always lead to evil is just dumb
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shattered0Platinum It is not naivety to support the empire, every single time the rebellion had a chance, they threw it away. They never caused anything short of pain and banditry in the galaxy, every imperial citizen hates them, not even the true imperials as well the traders? They hated the rebellion the rebellion stole everything. The rebellion's main goal was peace? The Empire WAS peace. Not the lame demilitarized version the rebellion had, where a minor bit of combat was an emergency. The pirates that afflicted the galaxy for the empire? What pirates? You want to attack a planet stationed by a battleship?
@Shattered0Platinum
@Shattered0Platinum 4 жыл бұрын
@@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 uhhh so what about the non-humans
@Kalterkard
@Kalterkard 2 жыл бұрын
16:30 I am dying.
@spookyboi6175
@spookyboi6175 4 жыл бұрын
The core of war never changes
@kennytheprinny3012
@kennytheprinny3012 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny that you called the New Order Evil, but is it really sure they do questionable things just like the Empire. Who many would come to see as corrupt but the same could be said for the Republic and I imagine the New Republic would eventually fall to the same corruption. My point is what's more evil a Empire the tries to enforce order on a Galaxy or a Republic that fails to provide even the basics of stability due to political infighting. For all the Empires problems at least they tried to help the greatest good by cracking down compared to Ideals that wanted to Help everyone and Ultimately fails in that responsibility.
@KaterKarlo001
@KaterKarlo001 4 жыл бұрын
Well you forget the minor detail regarding using child slaves as sodiers, but who caaaaaares
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 4 жыл бұрын
Ehh, legends has the best, most epic combat, hands down, back in the old republic.
@raveshaw6161
@raveshaw6161 4 жыл бұрын
well legends has also retarded moment especially in the galactic civil war and post RotJ time. Like the Empire pooping out Super Weapons left and right, Clone Palpatines and so on. One of the good things though was Thrawn.
@TheRaccoonGamer
@TheRaccoonGamer 4 жыл бұрын
Imran those are legends though :) Star Wars legends are apart of another thing that isn’t considered canon
@Sonof_DRN2004
@Sonof_DRN2004 4 жыл бұрын
Imperial star destroyers are pretty much just space castles.
@himynamelscolin
@himynamelscolin 4 жыл бұрын
With every single Star Wars video I watch the more I come to understand just how great the political underlying story is....
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