Evolution of MotoGP Riding Styles - From Leaning Out to Elbow Dragging

[@nikolasgibson3438]

Marc's style is to go way faster than you should, lean hard, and pray. Balls to the wall.

[@aldipratama5997]

RACING WHILE SMOKING CIGARETTE ! What an amazing time to live 😂

[@georgebennett3197]

but he put it on the ashtray whilst going round the corners!

[@andrewphillips4897]

We, who were born during the war and survived had so much freedom. Not so today.

[@hamdanjf]

Imagine rossi do that while overtaking marquez

[@DAVIDSMITHband]

I smoke my pipe or my handrolled cigarettes, with strong brown tobacco, whilst riding my bicycle. Generally, I stop to smoke, but not always. It is a shame that we can't smoke in most places.

[@future62]

They did not live very long

[@saraw6446]

The legend at 2:45! Airborne, throttle pinned, on bicycle tyres - smoking a cigarette !! I bet he rolled the cig halfway down Bray Hill !

[@chaseschuette]

Harvey Williams www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/bmz096/you_may_be_cool_but_you_will_never_be_harvey/

[@gomezgomezian3236]

With regard the earliest 'lean out' technique. The early races were on unsealed, if not actual dirt surfaces. Leaning the bike into the corner whilst keeping the body upright is a pretty common technique on dirt, even today.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

Gomez Gomezian totally agree here

[@dentistguba]

Also narrow tracks with lots of slow and tight technical cornering where you need to switch lean quickly i guess.

[@CFITOMAHAWK2]

At lower speeds, like in dirt turns you do Counter Steering to avoid putting g's on bike and low slide..

[@Catcrumbs]

I don't think traction is the complete answer. Listening to Surtees' description of those old bikes, a lot of it still applies to pedal cycles (which have changed very little in design since those days, unlike motorbikes). The fastest way to corner pedal cycles is to lean the bike more than the body.

[@ValerioKallmann]

@@Catcrumbs This also only applies until certain speeds. Try cornering at 50 mph on a steep gravel road by this technique and you'll propably end up with a nice pizza margherita...

[@jamesspry3294]

Dude, if you are going to whisper when you are talking then DON'T TURN THE MUSIC UP WHEN YOU ARE NOT. My ears are now bleeding!Great video though.

[@Austin-cn5xd]

James Spry lmao

[@Audacitycs1]

Totally agree lmao.

[@taylorjohn7388]

I physically looked for this comment

[@giantfisher]

Ha! Me too, if no one else was going to bring it up I was. Great video, but I have issue with erratic audio levels, whether KZbin or movies or t.v., come on y'all.

[@aminghabri9301]

he is talking so slow i played the video at 1,25 speed way better

[@exposer3339]

6:48 aerodynamic chin ftw

[@Matthew-ry6pc]

Lmao

[@levkranchevko1432]

Absolute Chad 🗿

[@rondee]

Next style: helmet dragging.

[@tcwracing]

Scott redding

[@sevenrats]

Cal Crutchlow has that one down

[@_droid]

No, next is going to be riding side-saddle. That is, you're entire body including both legs on one side of the bike. Weee!

[@Agent-ik1ui]

Lol

[@gijs.22]

Rondee amd then driving upside down somehow

[@MrLyleThompson]

An upright body style is still very prominent in offroad racing and mountain biking. From my experience the upright style helps to put more weight on the tire contact point at slower speeds and when traction is limited. I think a big factor in the change of style in road racing is the improvement in tire technology and an increase in the speed the racers can take the corners.

[@MrTeff999]

In the seventies, I was leaning over in turns to prevent my pegs from dragging. Seems obvious that that is why it's done. I also discovered that when your bike slides out from under you, you don't fall as far.

[@stevefowler2112]

Regarding riding styles that leap frogged everyone, I have a KR story. First the background. In H.S. I earned both a 125cc and 250cc AMA Expert's License in Motocross in the early 70's and as a Sr. in H.S. I was hanging up my racing boots and planning to prepare for Engineering College when my dealership sponsor (Island Yamaha in Merritt Island, Fl.) asked me if I would be interested in running some practice laps at Sebring in the winter of '75 on a new TZ-250 (B) that they were considering taking to Daytona in '75. I of course jumped at the chance. Turned out they had me and two other guys they wanted to run some practice laps on the TZ at Sebring to sort the bike out and to see if they liked any of us to ride at Daytona in a couple months. I took to the TZ250 like a fish in water and apparently had the fastest lap times by far so I got the ride. That is the background, now to my point/story: I ended up running in three preliminary races at Daytona in '75 and had the time of my life. During an open practice coming off the front straight I was passed by a certain #1 on a TZ-750...Kenny Roberts. I tucked in behind him and wanted to see if I could learn something following him through the infield corners. I figured I could carry a bit more speed into the corners on my super light TZ-250 so was hopeful I could hang with him through the infield...lol...Not! He was "steering with his rear tire" before anyone even knew what that was...he would place the TZ-750 front tire where he wanted it by applying throttle to bring the rear end around the apex...he was literally sliding the TZ-750 all the way across the width of the track and was doing it with lean angle and throttle. I was amazed and right then I realized what an other worldly talent he was. I later got to briefly talk to him in the pits about what I saw trying to follow him and he is the one who described his technique as Steering with the rear tire...btw KR is a cool cat.

[@scotsguy422]

Amazing story - thanks! So what happened after that race? Did you race some more? I always wanted to race (UK) but alas... too expensive and when my parents found out my true ambitions!! **&&%$# Lol...

[@stevefowler2112]

@@scotsguy422 I raced 3 other times in Fl. and Georgia (road Atlanta, Sebring and Daytona again (not during the 200), then I was off the Engineering college. Btw I recently retired and am considering putting a reservation down to hold a 2019 Ducati V4R...with the Race Kit it is $46,595

[@johnnydangerously9598]

little late but somehow i missed this video. Great story man. I remember as a young kid in the 80s watching Kenny clips on On any Sunday and then going out in the backyard on my little 80cc honda and pretending I was Bob Hannah.

[@NB-ir1me]

Did you know a guy last named pressly like Elvis pressly. It's impossible to find records of this stuff but apparently he used to race with kr mid 70s, he's a friend of mine at the barber vintage festival I go to every year. Met him at the very first year of the festival and have seen him there every year since. He has some crazy stories and the guys that know him back it up but have no real proof

[@Ihelpanytime]

1900: In the future we will have flying cars. 2000: sportbikes, things from heaven.

[@alviandrapiero2464]

squid missile

[@garymanning8920]

Great documentary keep them coming. I like how you incorporate why the changes happen historically. Also, gives me ideas for improving experimenting with my amateur riding.

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks Gary. Doing the research opened up my eyes as well, it now makes sense to me why the racers of old were riding the bikes like they were.

[@Sim1991eon]

you didn't mension the leg dangle.

[@justmote]

I was looking forward to that too, homie!

[@Birdyssk8services]

thats a braking maneuver, hes talking more about cornering although i do think he should have added it cause the video is supposed to be about the heneral styles of riding not just cornering

[@reezlaw]

@@Birdyssk8services besides, the dangle is done in preparation of a corner so you could say it's part of it

[@aminuacidu4638]

mention*

[@PrimeGaming10]

Guy in the video : whispers Me : turns volume up Guy in the video : Stops whispering Me : 🙂 Also me when the earape music comes up : 💀

[@al4449]

You're definitely my new favorite for 2 wheels videos, Another great video, amazing attitude,no BS , Greaaaat work, thank you !! :)

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks Asaf!

[@11mousa]

One big point of the "leaning out" technique in the beginning (and why it is still heavily used in places like dual sports) is stability. When leaning out and one wheel slipps, you need less movement, less power and can act way more intuitive then when leaning in with the bike or even hanging of the bike. Off course, MotoGP riders don't care for these advantages because a) they need to collect every 1/100th of a second they can get, and b) they spend pretty much their whole lives to train every possible dangerous situation and how to react.

[@faustin289]

I like Rossi's style: TO STAY IN THE FRONT 😂😂😂

[@ercanyesiltas]

@WARRIOR FIGHTER PAHLAWAN never

[@muhammadfarhan581]

@@ercanyesiltas get over it. Vale era is over

[@garyjohnson1970]

I've been riding for 40 years, just got caught up on some motorcycle history. Thank you!

[@TheKtm300rider]

My theory on the "lean out technique" is that it had more to do with the amount of traction available, as dirt bike riders today use the same technique when going around a flat corner.

[@bryanjbuchanan]

Is that a guy having a ciggy while racing at 2:46 ?

[@chickenfake6045]

and inverted forks

[@MikeonBikes]

He is. r/oldschoolbadass

[@dedelabinouze5110]

I want it as a poster haha, anyone knows how i can find it ?

[@billythebake]

Yeah, before the days of 'second hand smoke'...

[@OutlawJackC]

It's probably just something the camera didn't pick up properly. Just a coincidence it's there.

[@ArifKamaruzaman]

I like how the music scream after my ear adapt to his whispering.

[@simoneboggi1055]

I like how the emotional music starts with Rossi and Marquez

[@roycooper7461]

2:50 is he really smoking a cigarette just savage

[@pranav318]

I'm a motogp fan but I didn't think about origin of different stiles. Thank you Speed & Noise for a great video. I subscribed.

[@drewjohn6847]

pretty sure no one is as cool as a guy doing high speed over a jump with a smoke hangin out his mouth... pretty much the most bad ass thing ive seen ...

[@scotsguy422]

So true! What a guy, probably had a drag while going around some of the slower corners! Then had it hanging from the corner of his mouth for the next few miles. Amazing photo and well worth remembering.

[@staggabob]

Leaning out or keeping your body upright- is a technique used to corner in MTB to keep the pressure on the grippy parts of the tyres and prevent washing out . Probably the same reason they did it on those old skinny tyres. Modern motorcycle tyres have grip around the sides too so allow for greater lean angles.

[@Lordaniel899]

Thanks Mikael, that was excellent. The image of the guy with a ciggy hangin' outta his mouth while racing is way too kool for skool.

[@lordraiden5398]

From 1989 to 2014 I had not had a leg over a motorcycle. So in 2014 I found a Yamaha FZR 1000 with 4002 Miles on it. It even still had the original Bridgestone tires on it. After putting some new Michelin Pilot sports on and getting used to the bike I unintentionally scraped my knee the first time I took a corner with some gusto. As a older gentleman I will tell you young guys you don't know how good you have it. I am in awe of the racers now sliding both ends, getting their elbows to the ground. Technology has come a long way but you also have to give credit to the racers of the past that rode on those hard rubber bands that passed for tires and did the amazing things they did.

[@MrSebaboo619]

*psst narration...* ... *MUSIC!!!!!!* ... *whisper narration*

[@PlTBULL]

The music at 8:08 is outstanding... whats the name???

[@muchagrande1687]

Nice video again! Tip; watch the audio volume levels between bits....some music bits are way to loud. Keep 'm comming!

[@rickfeith6372]

Coming....only one M

[@PeterKoperdan]

Pro tip: Watch the whole video before uploading and adjust things if necessary.

[@anindanahiyan8818]

The older bikes, tyres and roads didn't provide as much reliable grip as their modern counterparts, so leaning the other way lets you make quick adjustments to your bike's lean angle to adapt your position and the bike to changing terrain and grip levels

[@ikari120378]

I love this. And, like some people below, I'd like to know what song at 8:08. Please....

[@ElBrendino]

Bivita Brata any luck finding the song?

[@onceuponasauce8177]

Bivita Brata like to know also, so if anyone knows, it would be very appreciated.

[@chandalf4500]

i am searching too

[@DJDeonPearson]

@@chandalf4500 Did you ever figure it out? The greatest, most epic electric Moto-shred of ALL TIME?!

[@chandalf4500]

@@DJDeonPearson Nope :( but i think it sounds like sth from the Band "Carpenter Brut"...

[@JackF99]

Best explanation I ever heard for leaning your body more than the bike is just plain to keep the tires as upright as possible at a given speed. The importance of that is due to the geometry of the tire. When leaned over, a tire wants to turn sharply, like rolling a cone on a surface. Same with rolling a mc tire along the ground, as it slows down and begins to fall over, it turns very sharply, eventually in a tight circle. When you lean the tires over hard in a turn you actually have to distort the tread , or essentially skid the tires, to keep them traveling along the path of the turn instead of much sharper like their cone shape wants them to. This distortion reduces traction. Keeping that tire more upright means the tread is distorted less to maintain your path . Thus it grips the pavement better. To keep the bike more upright you must compensate for the cg being higher by leaning your body farther off.

[@scotsguy422]

Not too sure about this. All modern tyres have a high hysterisis which means the compound is 'dead' so all the forces go through the tyre into the wheel. Yes there is some scrubbing at low speeds etc and yes there is also the possibility of falling into a bend at low speeds, but tyre tread patterns and compounds help enormously. I wouldn't want to try to keep the tyre upright in any type of bend, tight or sweeping but prefer to lean and let the confidence in my tyre do the rest. As for hanging off the bike, whether racing or not, its just a fad in my opinion and does nothing for the rider centre of gravity or the bike. Just my opinion tho!

[@JHB1984]

Also, do not forget, the first "couple" of years, races were held on loose surface ... ergo ... the used the "same" technic that the current dirt-tracker still use ;o)

[@SteveParkerAudiobooks]

Brilliant. As a late comer to the cult of two wheels I'm always happy when some history is laid out like this.

[@noorazhar2209]

7:04 John Cooper wearing Nakano helmet...😅 "Moonshine"

[@morcosboci]

Casey Stoner brought the new sliding into the corner style from his dirtbike background, Marquez just perfected it.

[@christians131]

would love to see more videos like this

[@MikeonBikes]

More vids like this to come!

[@klaseronen7535]

Jarno Saarinen was (and still is) our hometown hero of Turku, Finland. His brothers are very nice people and they are dedicated to keep Jarno's memory alive.

[@black_yeti]

Should I lean into the corner when riding a bike that has the tank under the seat

[@MikeonBikes]

What type of bike is it? Dirt, street?

[@motoholota]

Sure. Having tank under the seat makes your center of mass slightly lower, but the principles stay the same. ;) The more you lean yourself, the more bike can stay upright - and that means more traction.

[@black_yeti]

Speed & Noise it's kind of a 50 cc scooter with gears

[@motoholota]

If your goal is to ride faster then imho - yes, you should lean. On scooter you don't have the tank (even a fake one) to grab to with your knees, so you won't be able to lean too much. But everything helps. ;) Check out these guys: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH_YmKCal6eZrrc

[@black_yeti]

MotoHolota that's very impressive

[@thomasfolks]

For cornering, understeer is harder to control than the rear sliding. It is controlled (often subconsciously) by leaning the body inside or out of the bike. Leaning the bike in more is like dirt tracking where it is easier to control the rear. A small amount of power in cornering controls relative grip between front and back via the throttle. Losing grip on bumps etc is much easier if the front and rear grip are balanced so at the time of losing it you are still pointing (more or less) in the right direction and can pause until grip returns. Handling varying grip and bumps act underneath the center of gravity and if the bike's weight is higher, sudden bumps or grip laterally flick the bike, so a lower weight is more stable here. Leaning in or sitting on the inside corner of the seat give the rider feedback on how the bike is moving compared to the internal "gravitometer" of your head - or bum. With four strokes and ECU, controllable power sliding with big slip angles as in motocross or dirt tracking is extended to high speed on the bitumen. With much wider tyres and massive leans, the point of contact no longer acts through the centre of gravity of the bike, so the rider will adjust position until it "feels right".

[@samgab]

Interesting summary. Thanks. I thought you might touch on the "Leg Dangle" introduced by Rossi and now copied by pretty much everyone in MotoGP today...

[@revengefullobster4524]

I was hoping to see something about that as well. Seems like it got it's start in dirt biking or motard, but not all the guys doing it have ridden there.

[@efilrekib4446]

motomatters.com/opinion/2009/07/22/the_truth_behind_the_rossi_leg_wave.html

[@srinitaaigaura]

​@@revengefullobster4524We used to do that as kids riding bicycles for fun because it just felt more secure. If we slipped we could land on our foot (not something you want to do when driving any faster. When pushed to the limit, sometimes basic instincts kick in huh?

[@Sam-zy5ck]

Absolutely loving your channel. Well researched and articulated.

[@monteiro5306]

Very good video. Subscribing right now. Greetings from Brazil.

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks Nasser

[@TheChaz81]

Thank you for all the hard work that went into this!

[@ElBrendino]

Damn does anyone know the song at 8:08? Perfect night ride music!

[@drmurda]

Speed & Noise ass wipes aren't reading the comments... I want to know too

[@hanggapangibar9500]

I want to know too

[@brodyisbell9738]

Darude Sandstorm

[@RaphaellGlau]

Just planting a flag for the day anybody finds out the name of the song.

[@ferdinandmagellan7683]

something from the 80s

[@tellthemwerenotsheep261]

Some people don't seem to realise that you have no choice but to lean off of the bike using your body weight to make an aerodynamic bike lean over after you reach a high speed. Loved the history in this vid btw.

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks!

[@motoholota]

When I started riding I used the 'stay upright and push the bike in' style. ;) And in some article I've read really long time ago it was referred to as the 'italian style'. Now I have some idea why that might have been the case. ;]

[@MikeonBikes]

Tazio Nuvolari seems to have introduced 'the Italian style' indeed

[@BeamRider100]

I do that for super slow corners or sometimes if it's a bit bumpy on the corner. Dirt riding helps learning that.

[@DasEine]

@Speed & Noise could you link your music? The Synthwave Song at 8 minutes is great but Shazam can't find it.

[@Phreeleeppo]

which is the song that starts at 8:08?

[@sstallionn7]

Dijei Nagai - Finding Grace (Original Mix)

[@toxendon]

@@sstallionn7 lol that's not correct

[@shawnjohnson739]

soundcloud.com/artymix/rise-of-the-80s-hero-royalty-free-music-background-music

[@foxtrotbravo]

@@shawnjohnson739 thank you so much!!

[@stangale1]

Love this video tremendously! Please add Marquez with his elbow sliders in action. This amazing phenomena absolutely belongs here.

[@mauroj28]

Awesome video. Which song starts at 8:08?

[@markwray3916]

I'd like to know as well

[@drmurda]

PLEASE FUCKING RESPOND "Speed & Noise"

[@mrbrunse]

Its Darude _ Sandstorm for fuck sake

[@remotegod255]

YES WHAT SONG IS THAT

[@racermx775]

no it's not, dumbass)

[@Krisz98]

I would really love a video about the general history of motorcycle racing.

[@Johnnywhamo]

King Kenny was the man, I loved watching him race back in the day. i copied his style on my RD 400....well best I could anyway :) Man I missed that bike i loved that little beast.

[@motorcyclestig6941]

At 2:50 I have that picture on my phone of the racer smoking while racing at the TT lol so badass... great history lesson!! You missed one thing and that was elbow sliders but amazing video 👍👍

[@tonik4379]

Hey man.I recently had a crash on my bike,due to a car going through the corner on half my lane.Luckily, I'm fine and the bike suffered minor damage.Thing is,I am now quite scared on the road,and don't feel comfortable in turns...any tips on how to get over my fears?

[@JeremyBorkat]

Toni K Get on your bike sooner than later. The longer you wait, the more fear develops. You're on a motorcycle, so you control as many factors as you can and accept the danger, so you either get back on and ride or you don't. Live and learn.

[@tellthemwerenotsheep261]

Toni K Make sure your rubber is quality. depends on the bike but i would recommend Michelin road pilot 3. There are newer pilots available but i have never felt more secure in a corner as i have with those tires. Wet or dry. I would also ignore what pro riders will teach you about going wide in a corner so you can see what's coming, that's useless if you are far out in the corner and have nowhere to go but into oncoming traffic when you spot danger or misjudge the corner. If you're unsure of the corner, take it easy and stay in the middle of the lane, this will give you options should you need to adjust your line.

[@MikeonBikes]

Sorry to hear Toni. I too have gone through a couple of crashes, one really bad crash on the road. I got over my fear of riding by simply going out riding at a comfortable pace. When you have done that for a while, start working on looking as far ahead as possible. All the best. /Mikael

[@tonik4379]

Speed & Noise I have started riding again,now just the matter of getting back the confidence and looking ahead! Thanks for the help guys

[@JacobAndrewRowe]

Take the skirt off. It's not fear it's respect. Skill comes with putting the time in.

[@davidjennings127]

The guy enjoying a smoke while racing,absolutely precious.

[@-daigher-2549]

5:44 you totally butchered the name giacomo... Btw still a very nice and well made video, keep up the good work

[@dio1474]

It should be pronounced "JACOMO" we italians pronounce "G" like you do with "J"

[@jonasjohajohanson9517]

It is fascinating to so what has happened over the years in regards of engineering, design, protection, appearance and so forth. The development is huge. Also, it is somehow mind blowing to so what these early pioneers of motor sport have done in the early 1900s!

[@yesfinallygot1]

music is way too loud. but great video nonetheless. but seriously too loud

[@IMWT]

@RATHALOS are you retarded? He's not talking about how hard it is, he's talking about the volume levels, you fucking idiot lol

[@RetiredArmyCW4-F]

That was really interesting. Thank you for taking the time to put that all together: )!!

[@HaydenS1996]

I want that t shirt, where is it from? :D

[@MikeonBikes]

Bought it in the store at Laguna Seca

[@uni-byte]

Another reason for leaning out in the old days was lack of traction. Either because of crappy rubber compounds or loose surface roads (or both) there would be a lot of "over steer" with the rear end tending to break out. Just like with dirt bikes in flat corners, speedway and flat track racing, in certain conditions the best way to gain control of this is to lean out a bit to get your weight more over the bike to move the CoG closer to being above the contact patch of the tires giving them a bit more grip.

[@drmurda]

Song @ 8:10?????

[@sstallionn7]

Dijei Nagai - Finding Grace (Original Mix)

[@jamesodonoghue]

Very informative. Thanks for putting this together and highlighting all the pioneers.

[@kaioproper8715]

What’s the song at 8:08?

[@drmurda]

Speed & Noise shit heads aren't reading comments... I'm trying to find it aswell

[@raitoniemi]

@@drmurda Me too... Have you found? :D

[@drmurda]

@@raitoniemi Not yet :(

[@raitoniemi]

@@drmurda Dance with the dead get's pretty close. But i've been searching all their songs and no match :D

[@mike_chago]

Being searching with Shazam, SoundHound, Music Recognition, Google!!!...and no song with that same synth rhythm 😒

[@pete7674]

Most informative. You answered many of my questions regarding the evolution of MC racing. Thank you for your efforts.

[@sivabhakta]

Who remembers Norick Abe's style?

[@davidsmith-vc9ul]

YES I REMEMBER ABE SAN,THAT FAST RIDE IN JAPAN GOT THE CHAMPION OF THE DAY WORRIED FOR A LONG TIME,THAT WAS RAW TALENT,TO MANY PPL GIVE HIM ADVICE,IN THE WRONG DIRECTION THEY SHOULD HAVE LEFT HIM TO HIS WILD STYLE, AND HE WOULD HAVE WON A LOT MORE RACES,HE WOULD HAVE LEARNED TO CONTROL THE 2 STROKE BEAST....

[@POOFAYMANN]

This has some great super old footage of the isle of man tt. It might not look like they're going all that fast from todays standards, but you can tell theyre fuckin MOVING. And even today you can see they were hauling ass. If only they could see how fast we are now.

[@ramboog2654]

HNY-2018..!! Plz explain in detail about the following things. 1) IMU. 2) ENGINE BREAKING. 3) THROTTLE TRANSITIONS. 4) AUTOBLIPPER. 5) QUICKSHIFTER. 6) LAUNCH CONTROL. 7) GREAR RATIOS (@tall, @short).

[@MikeonBikes]

Happy new year Ravi. Thanks for the proposed topics! I will try to incorporate them in the new episodes coming out.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Short answer (seems like Mikel is going to go into more detail in future videos) 1) A lean angle sensor that is mostly used to allow ABS and traction control to work better when leaned over. 2) slowing down with just the engine, happens every time you let off the throttle, the effect is more pronounced in lower gears. 3) Not quite sure what you're asking about here other than a basic on/off throttle transition. 4) used on bi-directional quick shifters to allow clutchless downshifts with less chance of tire chatter. 5) a device that interrupts the engine power for a brief moment to allow easy clutchless shifting, basic ones only work on upshifts, better ones have an auto-blipper and work in boht directions. 6) A traction control setting that limits wheelspin/wheelies just enough to get a near perfect launch with ease. 7) The ratio of engine RPM to wheel RPM. A tall ratio allows for higher top speeds, but less acceleration. A short ratio allows for better acceleration (also makes the bike wheelie easier) but lowers the top speed.

[@ramboog2654]

Speed & Noise thankyou mikael sir. First of all sry for delayed response, as im lil busy with my stuides & stuff. I always love your content.

[@ramboog2654]

mrvwbug44 Thanks a ton buddy. Actually, i donno anything about this automotive stuff. But, recently i got interested, started pursing the related info about them. Meanwhile these are the most common words that i get the hear every now and then. Really, i glad that, yu took yur time out for replying & giving me a sneakpeak of what actually are they. Cheers buddy. Love from INDIA.

[@edwardjoseph1509]

Pedrosa has the most beautiful riding style, So smooth!

[@Uninfluenceable]

Every time I see a Laguna Seca race, I get so pissed at Dorna for cancelling it in favor of COTA. They got rid of what was undoubtedly the best track on the calendar for the most boring and unnecessarily long track the US has to offer. Bring Back Laguna!

[@joshuamcgarvey2712]

I agree!

[@cavscout62]

Riders love the layout of COTA as it was designed by a fellow rider (Kevin Schwantz) and is in the free state of Texas unlike the communist state of Commiefornia.

[@nanderlizernanderlizer684]

cota is not boring ffs. laguna seca is the most overrated track in the world. first half of the track is very dull, the corkscrew is pretty cool and then the rest of the track is nothing special. cota is much better and much more challenging for riders.

[@faustin289]

Motorbikes are incredible machines. I am always amazed how you can lean the thing until pegs scratch the pavement and still doesn't fall. It is damn scary tho, especially when it happens to you for the first time.

[@VitaliyKhomich]

Nice video but you can't talk really quiet I'm going put extremely loud ear splitting music

[@seventysevencats]

That was very fascinating, something that could hold its own on TV.

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks Curve!

[@WoolfEdits]

So you just give Casey Stoner 15 seconds like he didn''t have an era of his own. Like he wasn't the man that stopped Rossi winning championships, seems like you rushed the last part of the video

[@bernburn11]

Totally agree. Shows VR's desperate overtake of CS using no style at all, then shows Casey crash. Then makes out that MM invented his own style, when in fact he has copied Casey's style, then taking it further.

[@WoolfEdits]

@@bernburn11 Yeah Marquez learned fro him and developed his own insane style out of it haha. Casey will never get the credit he deserves because majority of the fans go for Rossi. Doesn't have the most respectable fans in some cases

[@mxer4life25]

Another reason for leaning out would be that they are on dirt roads. In motocross it isn't uncommon to lean the bike while sitting more upright on a long sweeping flat turn. This prevents the rear wheel from loosing traction.

[@MbdslEst1964]

Revisionist or poorly researched history. Jean Philippe Ruggia was using his elbows around corners, 25 years before Marquez, and without any onboard electronics. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they actually did what Rossi asks for every year.... Ditch the electronic and get back to pure racing.

[@georgemavrides3434]

Rossi would have won a few more championships.

[@matteostocchero1488]

True, and no mention of Omobono Tenni, the "black devil" of the TT. Riders said he was scary to look at because he removed grass from the hills with his shoulders at the Isle of Man. First Foreigner to win the TT on a foreign bike in 1937, on a Moto Guzzi, he fell, had to replace a spark plug and won half a minute ahead of the second

[@gabrielx5477]

Rossi is a master looking for excuses. He would like to return to the era when he had weak rivals. To be the one-eyed in the land of the blind people gained him a lot of world titles. But this is over. No matter the electronics, the tyres and so, the big drivers are able to adapt and will be great in any circumstances. Surtees, Hailwood and Agostini would have beaten him yesterday and would put today in problems to Lorenzo or even Marquez.

[@nanderlizernanderlizer684]

@@georgemavrides3434 no he wouldnt. yamaha have shit rear grip and without traction control that problem would be even greater.

[@vettezl1]

Marques said he tries to keep the bike as vertical as possible therefore he hangs off the side more than anybody has done before. The reason is to increase and maximize the traction circle area of the tire for late braking and early acceleration. It took a few years to perfect. He also moves the farthest forward and back on the bike and moved the CG within a huge envelope. Thanks for the story. Seems who ever adapts to the latest technology, wins. I think Roberts had the biggest influence. Rossi still rides as though he were 18 again. Amazing.

[@badbob2149]

Nonsense that would be Casey Stoner The best GP pilot ever

[@brianyoung6714]

Great video but what the heck, Rossi 1979! was he even born then, not to mention all the other dates were only like 20 or 30 years off, just a tad.

[@MikeonBikes]

Rossi was born in 1979. The others races were born on the same dates as presented.

[@mad4tarmac]

tell me which age is off by 20 or 30 years love to hear it...so say Mick Doohan is really only in his 20s now..so that means he was sperm when he was racing...amazing knowledge of motorcycle racing you have.

[@ushoys]

All the dates shown next to the riders are the year in which they were born.

[@Len02013]

I reckon it should be the years they have been winning. When they were born is a bit irrelevant if it's relating to when they are changing the style of riding. I too was a bit confused at first

[@bremCZ]

The first date got too but it's DOB not race year.

[@AuMechanic]

Might have been an idea to mention the lean angle newer tyres allowed that changed style. I raced 2 strokes and 1000cc Superbike in through the 1980's with a riding position that was much like Doohan as it was common back then but later in the 90s onward tyre improvements allowed greater lean angles that resulted in riding positions changing. Greater lean angles may have forced riders to hang their upper body inside the turn more more as they do now than the lower body to avoid trapping the leg with the greater lean angles than we could do back then.

[@tharun72]

Very good content. Thank you for keeping me entertained for the length of the video. I subscribed

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks tharun!

[@clintonevanoff]

you are so thorough and charismatic, i appreciate that

[@lilithlianshi2094]

2:48 that guy racing while smoking ?? madlad

[@davidedwards3361]

I read once that the rider leaning off the bike (either knee up to elbow) means the bike can stay more upright (Marquez, please take note), therefor keeping more tyre tread on the road. There is also a style used by tourers with loaded bikes, and strangely, some police. And that is to push the handlebars VERY SLIGHTLY in the opposite direction to the corner and the bike drops into the corner.

[@peterm7140]

This is one of the best KZbin vids I have watched in a long time… I found it interesting and very informative! Having noticed some reference in the comments to the “Rossi Dangle.” I would like to share my “two cents” for what is is worth. [Chris Martin wrote on Aug. 9, 2016: 1st quote. “In 2005, Valentino Rossi barged up the inside of Sete Gibernau on the final corner of the last lap in Jerez. With a collision between the two imminent as they dove in heavy on the brakes, the Italian frantically took his inside leg off the footpeg. Rossi pulled off the pass and raced forward to the checkered flag - and ultimately, the world title.” and 2nd quote. “While the adaptation of the move Rossi popularized has been nigh-total, there is still no definitive answer explaining why riders do it. Even Rossi can't tell you other than to say it simply "feels" right.”] I am going to state the obvious here, but please hear me out. From first statements we can hypothesize that Rossi’s “dangle” enabled him to increase his chance of survival in a somewhat unexpected dangerous situation. From the second statement we can hypothesize that the reaction was “automatic” in that he can’t explain why he did it and that it just “felt” right. He still can't explain it. Rossi himself said: “Sometimes now I take the foot off the inside footpeg because it “feels” like I can brake harder.” I have noticed that the “Rossi Dangle” has been discussed on the Internet at great length. While I am not trying to dispute or negate the “science” and “physics” that has already been used to explain the “Rossi Dangle”, I feel that it goes a lot deeper. Why did he do it? I propose that Rossi stuck his leg out to create an additional reference point, independent of the bike, kind of making a triangle, that enabled his brain to make a more detailed and precise “orientation” and “level of adhesion” calculation. (When I think about orientation in this context, it reminds me of when a pro baseball fielder knows exactly where to be in order to catch the ball seemingly as the ball is being struck.) I think that the additional reference point was mandatory for his survival. The resulting enhanced brain calculation enabled Rossi's muscles to make the exact micro adjustments needed to keep the bike under control. Why did he continue do do it? I am going to state the obvious again. Keep reading! ;) I also propose that his continued use of the “dangle” was a result of its success. Rossi’s brain synthesized the the new information with positive experience and it soon became a habit. Other racers must have found it beneficial as they started to do it too. Although data has been analyzed stating that it doesn’t make any difference whether Rossi dangles or not, I think that there may be more to it. If we watch videos or look at photos of Rossi dangling, we can notice that it happens when he is under high speed heavy braking into a corner - approaching the limit of adhesion, and that sometimes the back wheel is off the ground - approaching the limit of orientation. While the “dangle” doesn’t appear to make an immediate difference; as a habit, it may improve “confidence” or what I would better describe as a “physical sureness”, freeing up much needed brain processing power, enabling more consistency at higher speeds throughout the race. The “Doctors Dangle” may fade as riders evolve, finding other ways to understand and process the limit of adhesion and the limit of orientation. The bikes are evolving as well with electronic controls; which interestingly enough, also help free up more of the rider’s brain processing power. For me, Rossi’s dangle is one of the coolest things to watch. A close second would be “backing it in.” I have watched Rossi do “impossible” things over the years, sometimes shaking my head in disbelief. I don’t want to take anything away from other great motorcycle racers of the past or even the present, but when I think of Rossi… Well… Rossi is Rossi… Remember, you read it here first! Lol… Thank you again for posting the vid! Cheers to All!

[@BeamRider100]

There's different types of hanging off over the years. I call Doohan's style, "looking around the barn door". Wayne Rainey and Lorenzo seem to keep their bodies close and inline to the tank, which most do now, so they are hanging off, but not so much now because of the extreme lean angles. Rossi seems to watch all the styles and adapts and reviews his own style a lot. Schwantz used to sit back on the rear tyre a lot. Stoner did change his style up for different corners. I tend to brake right in to the corner for slow corners, but for fast corners I brake early and get on the power early. The sort of tyre that helps you do both types of braking styles helps.

[@brussell639]

I had a late 90s sea doo gtx that required me to put my weight on the outside of the turn to keep the ass end planted and not spinning out. The newer Yamaha gp1300 I later had was just the opposite. With motorcycles, I've always been of the lean in philosophy. Point is, you do what works best for what you're riding.

[@DarkRiderMotovlogs]

Amazing video! I definitely learned a lot from watching. Well researched as well! Thank you. Just a note. The audio on music tracks should be leveled closer to the volume of your speaking voice. The cuts from voice to music are quite loud and harsh.

[@PbPomper]

@2:48 LOL! Smoking a cigarette while jumping a GP bike! That's just awesome :P

[@brucebrown4087]

Thanks sometimes a video like this allows thinking of the fun days gone by to bring a smile .So true how riding styles change based on the era and even the bike ,tires ,brakes, engine power on and on . Once tires got good enough and you learned how to pick up your bike with your knee back in the 70s earlier 80s cornering faster and sliding smoothly Could be done . I think it was mentioned the knee bumping the ground that would be the lack of grip and out rigger knee save before tire advancing to allow the lean angle of a solid light drag that is hard to tell when. Pressure increases due to tire slippage .

[@kellienicolebrooksschettin6598]

Dude this is awsum where did you find this vintage old film was that the first isle man TT race holy crap that's cool thanks...

[@crusherbmx]

Rare to find a video that answers the exact question I had! I haven't paid much attention to motorcycle racing since the 80's so when I finally decided to look up MotoGP my first thought was, " my god, when did they start leaning over that much!?" Well. question answered!

[@BartoszBanachewicz]

Really enjoyed the historic parts, nice video!

[@harrykramer7479]

Amazing vid. Nice to see the old styles. In that time it was all about the rider. Now it is all about electronics. I am curious what's next. Riding with robots?

[@razieldezang7185]

this vid was amazing, keep that quality work!

[@MikeonBikes]

Thanks Raziel

[@ananthmurthy754]

U are awesome to the motorcycleing community man! U are letting the upcoming riders to know a bit of history and the heritage involved in it! Great job! 😊 If you can..please let me kno the bgm u gave for Rossi and Mark! it was amazing! 😍 Thanks

[@Crowstooth]

What's a bgm?

[@amgisanal]

low narrative sound but the music loud enough to wake my entire family...

[@wassliving4898]

Nice history lesson. Vintage stuff is always cool to see video of.