Hyundai Kona Electric versus Kia Niro EV

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EV-olution

EV-olution

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@Gdj_Ga
@Gdj_Ga 4 жыл бұрын
Andre, I found your site this morning as I was researching EV's and found myself binge watching your videos. You should know that you are doing a great job coming up with interesting content and have a comfortable style on camera presenting the facts. I can imagine that anyone interested in EV's and specifically the Niro will find your content essential. Being an engineer, a car enthusiast and one that appreciates driving dynamics I have been buying German cars for the last 20yrs. When Kia and Hyundai were first introduced to the US I passed them off as a low end appliance. Over the years watching the brand mature, I have noticed them make great improvements. When the Genesis and the Stinger came out I was impressed but wondered if they may be shooting a bit too far beyond their normal buyer. The Niro is no exception, as I do find it a bit expensive for the brand but quality and features are very appealing. I dipped my toe into the EV pool back in 2016 with a 2013 Leaf SV. Used Leaf's are very inexpensive and a 10000 mile, 3yo example went for 35% of its original MSRP. I owned it for a year but found its limited range impractical for my life so I traded it a year later for what I paid for it. Now 4 years later I am considering an EV again. The Mini E, E-Golf, Niro and the PHEV Honda Clarity are all under consideration. The Niro is by far is the most practical and you have given me a lot to think about. Thank you putting together some great content!!
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you very much, I really appreciate your comment 😃. I try to improve at least one thing in every video and now when I look at older content that I made, I cringe at how bad I perceive it to be. I hope you subscribed so you don’t miss future videos 😊 I understand when you say the Niro EV is expensive, but it really is an incredible electric car, packed full of excellent features and technology, plus you get one of the best fit and finishes from any car manufacturer. You are correct, Kia and Hyundai have come a long way since the 80s and deserve to be looked at for any of their vehicles because of the value for money and the quality they offer. Regarding your choices, something you should know about the Mini E is that is uses fairly old BEV tech from the BMW i3 so I would think twice before buying, but it is a nice car and should be decent. The e-Golf is also older tech, but is proven, has excellent build quality, and drives incredibly well as it is built on the Golf R, great choice. I don’t like to bash any product that has EV tech, but I really don’t like the Honda Clarity for a few reasons: 1) I can’t stand the look, but this is personal taste and if you like it then I cannot judge because each person likes different things. (2) Honda has never been serious about EVs and the Clarity is a compliance car. (3) You are paying quite a bit of money for a car that has limited EV range, all of the disadvantages of an ICE vehicle, and you have more points of failure since it merges BEV and ICE tech making the Clarity, like any hybrid, a more expensive vehicle in the long term because of maintenance. Have you considered the 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric? Lots of range, interesting style, lots of room and reasonable price. With that being said you are the one who has to enjoy the car you drive and if the car suits your needs, if you like it, and if it fits your budget, then nobody has anything to say about your choice. Thanks again!
@sswildlifevideos
@sswildlifevideos 4 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution Excellent comment Andre. I agree, the Honda Clarity is awful to look at and the full EV model has terrible range. I loved the e-golf but sub 150 mile range was a big no no for me. I'd recommend the comment poster take a look at the Niro EV, Model 3, Kona, Bolt, VW ID4 (when it comes out), and Nissan Ariya. I also think that the Ioniq EV and Standard Leaf are options for cheaper EVs with decent range. That being said I think the 200+ mile range EVs make a lot of sense since I think for EVs to truly pay off driving them as much as possible is important. If they have too little range and you will still drive an ICE car a lot it really reduces the purpose of buying an EV. The Niro EV consistently gets around 195-200 miles at 80 percent for me and I'd highly recommend it to the original poster! Keep the great content up Andre, I love it.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
@@sswildlifevideos thank you very much.
@skyfox77
@skyfox77 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Family should always come first, I hope everything goes well, whatever it is.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. We are taking it one day at a time.
@camrodger5381
@camrodger5381 3 жыл бұрын
I would add that Frank is so tall that he can hunt geese with a rake. Thanks for another great video.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 3 жыл бұрын
LoL... yes, Frank is a very tall guy, and thanks 😎
@Tjomsasen
@Tjomsasen 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. Great content! Ordered an e-niro about a month ago. Delivery within the next three weeks or so. Really looking forward to it - I'm like a child on Christmas morning! I considered a number of cars, including the Kona, but for us the extra space in the e-niro was essential as we have a two year old child. And I really did not like the legroom in the back of the Kona! I will say, however, that I prefer the looks of the Kona over the e-niro. For us, getting an ICE was never an option, but living in Norway the choice wasn't as difficult as it is in many other places. Keep up the great work! Best regards from a fellow "frozen wasteland".
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it 🙂 Congratulations on your purchase, you won't regret the e-Niro, it's a great car. I have lots of e-Niro videos so have fun watching and don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss my future videos 😉
@daveantley4523
@daveantley4523 5 жыл бұрын
Andre, thank you for your taking the time to make, edit and post your videos. I look forward to viewing them. I have had my Kia Niro EV for about a month now and am loving it. This is my first EV and I did quite a bit of research before making my decision. I watched your early videos and wanted to let you know that you had an influence on my going with the Kia Niro EV. I'm in the US (Seattle area) so it was a happy accident that you had the "wrong" measuring tape for this video.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your purchase! Thank you very much for the compliment, I really appreciate it and I am glad I could help. That is one of the reasons I do it. Thanks again, I needed to smile today.
@maxsec2
@maxsec2 5 жыл бұрын
Had mine almost 6 months and over 9,000miles already...no issues and really like the car, good build quality, good size, and the adaptive cruise is great.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
They are lots of fun to drive. I agree about the cruise control, one of my favourite features.
@kevind4850
@kevind4850 5 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Your findings were similar to mine, though I looked at the US base trim Niro (the only model available around here) vs. the US Ultimate trim on the Kona. As a driver, I would have preferred the Hyundai, but back seat comfort for adults was a major factor in my choosing the Niro. I especially liked the small heads-up display on the Kona Ultimate - although both the Niro and Kona have great gauge displays, it is so intuitive to have the most important info always in your peripheral vision. That feature should be made standard across Hyundai and KIA lines, IMO (actually, I wonder why all vehicles do not have this by now). It is a little thing in cost and complexity that really adds to driving comfort.
@liwang4865
@liwang4865 5 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I just got the Niro for 2 weeks and I love it. One difference between Canada and US I want to mention is the Adaptive Cruise Control. In Canada, Kona gets the ACC in base trim and the guy rates it to be the best feature. However, in the US the ACC is only on Top trim. Compared to Niro, ACC is standard in both trims. If people live in an area that has heavy traffic (I live in Los Angeles), acc is the function worth the money.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I love ACC and would not want to live without it. FYI, in Canada the Niro EV EX (base trim) does not have this feature. I am working on a comparison video for the Niro EV EX vs SX, but I just found out that my mic input was broken when my camera fell, right at the beginning of filming it... I am trying to see if I can salvage the video 😟
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 5 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution Weird how the trim levels vary so much per country. Even here in Europe it seems different in every country... IIRC ACC only comes on the top trim level here in the Netherlands, and the sunroof is optional at any level of trim. It's definitely worth the extra money to get ACC (and the heads up display).
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaasmeester5903 I agree. I don't understand why Kia would add so much complexity to manufacturing. It slows down production and increases cost.
@patricenantel973
@patricenantel973 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I personnally have an Ultimate Kona since Feb 7th, 40 000km + , and I'm STILL in the honeymoon phase! Thanks for being part of AVEQ (Been volonteer for 5 years already) and the best seller of EV is defenitely the road tests! Keep up the good work. :)
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Merci Patrice, j'apprécie le commentaire.
@SLAMCGY
@SLAMCGY 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel Andre. No need to apologize for delay in posts especially when it comes to family. We recently purchased the PHEV Niro and love it so far. Perhaps next time will go full EV. Could I request a video on your experience with maintenance schedule and costs for the EV? Merci! Steve
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. Thank you for the comment. I have noted the request and will make a video about it since I have had my car for 7 months now. I am almost done another video. Stay tuned and thanks again.
@trentwjohnson
@trentwjohnson 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Andre. Thanks for the shout-out! I'm surprised your guest preferred the Kona to the Niro being he is a tall guy. I'm a big and tall guy and when I sat in a Kona, I refused to take it for a drive and left the dealership immediately because it was so confining, I felt like I was in a coffin. One of my tests was to grab the steering wheel and swing my elbows outward. On the Niro, I seemed to have freedom on all sides. They seem to make the doors very thin somehow. I had a similar feeling with swinging my knees outward. The Niro (Hybrid) had a lot of swing room, and the EV with the cutout was even better. The Kona just didn't have this freedom. The Niro has a feeling that reminds me of a pickup truck, but the Kona seemed like a compact car. I would be surprised to hear his comments after he sits in your car and adjusts the seat a little bit. :)
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
I was also a bit surprised, but he seems to like it. I think it was also a question of the Niro EV EX not having all of the basic features like heated seats, radar, safety features, etc. and considering the Soul Premium is only a 39kWh battery it does not have the range he needs so the Kona Electric was his choice.
@be236
@be236 5 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution You should have had that tall guy sit in his Kona Electric in the front seat (adjusted to his comfortable position), then sit in the back seat, showing us his knee space. Then do the same with Niro EV and we can see what the difference is...
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
We had a bit of a time crunch for filming. I agree that would have been a great comparison, but I can assure you that in the Kona there is no way I would fit in the back behind his seat if it was placed for him. 🙂
@be236
@be236 5 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution Yeah, I figured that, just wanted it to be shown so people can see the difference... I've sat in Kona Electric once and my knees almost touched the driver's seat, whereas in Niro EV, I had about 8cm knee clearance ... both those tests were with the driver's seat in my normal driving position... what confuses me a bit is that TeslaBjorn in Norway KZbin showed Niro EV having a larger boot space than Kona Electric in Europe or Korean market, but looking at the "specs" for North America, it showed Kona Electric having slightly larger boot space than Niro EV... Go figure... I was at dealership and looked at both and they seemed about the same size.. so not sure why that is my impression in-person, whereas TeslaBjorn measured their boot space and it showed Niro EV much larger.. so. I dont know what to make of that..
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
​@@be236 That is strange that the NA spec would say the Kona has a larger boot, I don't see how that is possible. The Niro EV is definitely larger and has more space back there, my measurements prove it. I suppose someone at Hyundai really wants to sell the Kona 😉
@mangoginger8924
@mangoginger8924 5 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the comparison and will certainly show this to my wife sister who is in the market. BTW I have the SX EV Niro since April 2019 after the Vancouver International Auto show in March. Keep up the terrific videos.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much and congratulations on the Niro EV. I love mine.
@smallmj2886
@smallmj2886 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm another sun-roof hater. They completely kill the head room for taller folks.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I was upset at not being 6 feet tall, but as I grew older I realized the advantages of being 5'8" tall 😉
@Flaggyt
@Flaggyt 3 жыл бұрын
If passengers want more room they either pay the difference themselves or get their own vehicle. :) So I ordered the Kona, passenger ls do not have a vote and if they don't like it they can walk. :) My last car was an MG TF so every backseat is an upgrade. :)
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@petegarris9954
@petegarris9954 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos and your effort to present them - Is there a real world difference in the driving range of the Kona versus the Niro? It appeared that driving range was a key factor in Frank's decision to purchase the Kona.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
The Niro EV is rated at 385km, but so far I have always had over 400km of range on a charge. The Kona Electric has a slightly higher range, about 20 or 30 km. It also depends on how you drive the car, the outside temperature and your environment (hills vs flat), but both are very close for range.
@jonricketts2408
@jonricketts2408 5 жыл бұрын
Great video on the comparison of the Eniro & Kona I did exactly the same as both cars were offered to me by company. I chose the ENiro because of the extra space and I preferred the fit and finish of the Kia. Hope all’s well with your family and I agree they come first.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I agree about Kia's fit and finish, it was one of the deciding factors for me. For my family... one day at a time. Thanks again.
@onlineo2263
@onlineo2263 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting boot/trunk space comparison. The Kona is rated at 334L and the Niro at 451L which is a massive difference. I am presuming there must be a large height difference, or maybe a lot more space under the false floor.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Under the floor is the same in both. I am taking a guess that the overall shape of the Kona's interior space what makes the difference.
@davidward4727
@davidward4727 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I liked this one because when the Niro EV comes down under, I'm going to find it hard too not get too excited. The Hyundai is the obvious alternative in the price bracket. I loved the bit in the show about the sunroof causing 4cm height loss. It makes sense and I'll watch out for that next time as my head touches the roof of my current car when I'm sitting up properly. Cheers from Oz.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it. One thing to consider when you try both cars with the sunroof, be sure to adjust the seat down as much as is confortable because they adjust quite a bit in the up/down position.
@JeanPierreLavoie
@JeanPierreLavoie 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparision video between the Kona and Niro. Never seen this side by side video. I'm an Ultimate Kona owner.. Glad to discover you and subscribe to your channel!
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup et si vous avez des questions n'hésitez pas à me contacter. Je suis dans les groupes de VÉs Facebook également.
@aaronrindlisbacher2717
@aaronrindlisbacher2717 3 жыл бұрын
Great carl Sagan impersonator!
@MikeDancy
@MikeDancy 5 жыл бұрын
KIA for the win! I should talk the wife into getting one of these. I really like my KIA Forte5 . - FYI, I'm a mens XL
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
You would love an electric car. When you look at them, in this price range, you should consider the Kia Niro EV, 2020 Kia Soul EV, the Hyundai Kona Electric, the Chevy Bolt, and the Tesla Model 3 SR+ (standard range plus). They are all about the same price within a couple thousand dollars, each offering something different, but all offering similar range on one charge.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
One note, I did not mention the Nissan Leaf+ because it lacks thermal management of the battery. This will be the subject of a future video, but essentially it is an issue when it is really cold, but more importantly, when it is really hot. This leads to slow charging speeds and premature battery degradation.
@stephenshannon3706
@stephenshannon3706 5 жыл бұрын
EV-olution the slow charging is a defensive reaction to avoid serious battery degradation. I have owned several different EVs, but have only seen actual temperatures on the Leaf, using Leaf Spy. I am unaware of the temps on my e-Niro but I can tell you it can charge just as slowly when the battery is cold.. in principle having liquid thermal management should be advantageous, but in reality I don't think this is proven in the field. Tesla Bjorn has done some good you-tube videos on the e-Nero cold charging matter.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
The liquid thermal management, including the battery heater for winter, will have a significant impact on speed of charging, as well as battery protection when talking about heat. The fact that Nissan Leafs do not have any active cooling in hot environments is proven to cause very slow charging speeds, slower than other vehicles with thermal management, and many Leafs have premature battery degradation. You can find many reports (official and unofficial) about this issue. The enemy of any Lithium Ion battery is heat. Cold has an impact on reducing charging speeds as well as power output but is less of an issue than heat. Here is just one of many articles explaining the issue: cleantechnica.com/2018/07/16/2018-leaf-vs-long-journeys-can-it-take-the-heat/
@stefanbololoi7110
@stefanbololoi7110 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance you can do a presentation on Hyunday Ioniq Ev?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 3 жыл бұрын
That is something I do intend to do. My problem right now is finding the time to make videos. It will be a great comparison since the Niro and Ioniq are based on the same platform.
@leoscock
@leoscock 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Take care of yourself and your family!
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it.
@johncarson1427
@johncarson1427 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks again for your very informative videos. The rear trunk space depth and width measurements were helpful, I am wondering what is the height of this space under the privacy cover. This would let me know if my suitcases can fit when turned up on there sides. Thanks
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad you like them, thank you. I will have to go measure, but right now it is -10C and there a a ton of snow that came down yesterday. I will check it out this weekend and get back to you.
@johncarson1427
@johncarson1427 4 жыл бұрын
Andre stay warm. No big rush for the info. Was just wondering if I can pack the truck area with the same quantity of stuff as I currently get in the back of my Hyundai Sonata which we used to travel to Florida last week.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. I hope you and your family are doing well and are safe. I finally remembered to measure the space under the privacy cover of my car. Sorry for taking so long. From the floor of the trunk to flush under the cover is 15.5 inches, or 39.3 centimeters. I have found it more than enough for my needs. Let me know if you have any other questions and don't forget to check out my latest video. 🙂
@johncarson1427
@johncarson1427 4 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution Andre great, thanks for the info
@kiae-nirodiaries1279
@kiae-nirodiaries1279 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I enjoyed the ‘hidden details’ on the e-Niro. I took delivery of mine here in France in March 2019. For anyone interested in my ownership experience please take a look at Kia e-Niro Diaries.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, je ne savais pas que vous étiez français! Félicitations pour votre acquisition de e-Niro. Vous êtes chanceux de les avoir reçus avant nous. Félicitations, également, pour votre chaîne KZbin.
@kiae-nirodiaries1279
@kiae-nirodiaries1279 5 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution Bonjour à tu..Je ne suis pas français mais il y a beaucoup de Britanniques vivant en France, dans cette région du Poitou-Charente nous représentons environ 10% de la population. Nous avons des amis britanniques ici qui ont travaillé au Canada pendant 40 ans et qui ont pris leur retraite ici. Nous sommes interested to see how the e-Niro copes with the Canadian winter. Bon Chance!
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting. I did not know that there was a British population in France. As for winter, it just started with 20cm of snow expected today! It is catching lots of us offguard as the deadline to install winter tires is December 1st. Mine are not on yet :( Range is now showing 390km at 100% instead of about 420 to 460. I will be making a video about it once winter really sets in.
@huss1205
@huss1205 4 жыл бұрын
Today at a Hyundai dealership here in Sweden, I adjusted the driver seat for my driving position and then moved to the backseat and I didn't feel comfortable, I am 178cm, about 5'10", and I drove the e-Niro previously, and I can tell that if I am going to buy an EV for family, e-Niro would be my choice, I hope that I get Polestar 2, I think it is a better car than Tesla Model 3, at least in terms of build quality, you can not beat Volvo quality when they build a car...
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
The back seat room and trunk space are one of the reasons I chose the e-Niro. The Polestar 2 will be interesting to see. Thanks for watching!
@huss1205
@huss1205 4 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution what stops me from buying Model 3 is the bad assembly and horrible paint job and misaligned body panels, but they have the most efficient motors and excellent battery pack and awesome tech. Ploestar 2 is interesting but the car is not yet in the market, better wait for sometime to see the response and how it drivers and reviewers will judge the vehicle. But for now, if I will go for an EV, e-Niro will be my choice for sure...
@edouardlevesque-beaudry7401
@edouardlevesque-beaudry7401 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I am shopping currently between both... Honestly can't seem to understand the $ difference between the trim for both make. I'm with you that the winter battery heater is a deal breaker on the base trim of the Niro. After all this time is there anything else that you would advise for/against for the Niro? We're test driving the Kona tomorrow.... Merci
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Ça me fait plasir 🙂 The Niro EX would have been interesting if Kia had not removed the battery heater and the basics like heated seats and steering. Regarding anything that I don't like about my Niro EV... Like any car it is not perfect, I would have liked more cushion in the seats to make them softer, but nobody makes soft seats anymore and the Niro seats are very comfortable compared to many cars. I would have preferred it if it was rear wheel drive like the Tesla Model 3 SR+, but it is not a problem for normal driving, only when you step on it from a dead stop, especially in Sport mode. Also, if you like buttons then you are going to love the Niro EV, Kia has put a button for everything, the exact opposite of a Model 3; I got used to it. So essentially these things are not really issues, more nit-picking details. I love my car after almost 24,000km and 1 year and would not swap it for any current EV on the market because the Niro EV is exactly what I need for my use. I hope this helps.
@Reddylion
@Reddylion 5 жыл бұрын
Nice from Hindustan India ⚡️👍
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I am glad you liked it, and since you did you may like my other videos. Thanks again.
@Reddylion
@Reddylion 5 жыл бұрын
EV-olution subscribed..
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
@@Reddylion Thank you very much!
@John-209
@John-209 4 жыл бұрын
Kia Niro ev ex does have lane keep and start and stop cruise and all those safety features cross traffic stuff
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I can confirm that in Canada the Niro EV EX trim does not have the front radar, nor the camera and does not have any of the related safety features (kia.ca for reference). It is one of the complaints people have for the Niro EV EX trim in Canada. In other countries the EX does have these features. Thanks for the comment :-)
@John-209
@John-209 4 жыл бұрын
EV-olution all of the safety features are on the American version of the EX but none of the other ones not even heated seats or steering wheel and we don’t have that VEESS button. They have it in Europe do you guys have it?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
The VESS button is not available in Canada, like in the USA, even though it's not a law here in Canada. The Canadian EX trim here does not have heated seats or steering wheel either. All of those details are the reasons that I chose the SX Touring which has everything.
@John-209
@John-209 4 жыл бұрын
EV-olution I just bought one the other day and honestly I couldn’t make a deal that I was happy with on the premium model. I think they had five or six of the EX model and only one premium,I do like the navigation with the little range circle on it that shows how far you can go I am assuming that is not on the Apple CarPlay but I’m not sure
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay in reply time, my comment section is overloaded. Congratulations on your purchase, you are going to love it. The range circle is only on the EV page, so if you have Car Play on the screen you don't see the EV screen.
@0hypnotoad0
@0hypnotoad0 3 жыл бұрын
I always just view the Kona as the more "sporty" car, and the Niro is more mature and refined. Kona is a bit lighter, a bit faster, higher ground clearance. Niro has more space, has a rated towing capacity, it's a bit slower, a bit lower range. With that said, the Kona is definitely cheaper as of now, the Niros in my area are now being priced more expensive than the Tesla Model Y SR, I would have a hard time justifying a FWD smaller crossover, over a bigger RWD one. Kia has to whip their dealerships back into line, if they want to sell the Niro in volume.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you regarding the types of vehicles the Kona and Niro are, I have the same impression. As for the dealers in your area, that is ridiculous! The Niro EV top trim is a bit more expensive that the Model 3 SR+, but to be more expensive than the Model Y is insane!
@chrissereque8716
@chrissereque8716 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your excellent reviews! I am interested in buying a Niro EV, but have been reading owner blogs about motor problems requiring a warranty replacement (perhaps only in the USA?) Have you heard anything about this?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and I am glad you like them. 🙂 Some Niro EV and Kona Electric owners have experienced a noise similar to a hockey card in bicycle spokes. Considering the combined number of these two vehicles sold I am fairly confident that the percentage is low, but it is a possible issue. The problem is related to the electric motor and both companies replace the original 710 motor, under warranty, with a version 711. The posts I have read from those who had it done are happy and the problem is solved. Since they are still a fairly new cars we need more time to know if this is a permanent fix or not. With that being said, most owners are very happy and don't have any issues. I have 24,000km, have no problems, and I have one of the first to arrive in Canada. I still consider these cars to be among the most reliable and the Niro EV is amazing in terms of fit, finish, value, and dealer service availability. I strongly recommend it.
@michelgagne9219
@michelgagne9219 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, got a question for you ! We are new owners of a Kia Niro Ev 2020 since 3 weeks ago and my question is about Android Auto. Can we connect our Android Auto without using a USB cable ? Thanks in advance for your answer !
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new Niro! Unfortunately the only way to get Android Auto, or Apple CarPlay working in any of the current Hyundai and Kia EVs is with the main USB port and a USB cable. The wireless feature requires the radio/head unit to have wireless built into it and today there are only a few cars being made with that ability. I am guessing that new Hyundai and Kia EVs, based on the E-GMP platform, will have it but that is just a guess. N'hésitez pas à me poser vos questions en français si vous préférez 🙂
@michelgagne9219
@michelgagne9219 4 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution Ok too bad..... Je voudrais vous dire merci pour ce que vous faites !!!!! Auparavant nous avions une Kia Niro PHEV 2019 et nous étions déçu de ça performance électrique donc j'ai appeler notre concessionnaire, manigancé le tout avec lui (sans n'en parler à ma conjointe) finalement un samedi matin nous avions des courses à faire et après ceux-ci j'ai dis à ma conjointe j'ai le goût d'aller chez notre concessionnaire Kia voir les vehicules électrique. Je lui ai avoué rendu sur place ce que j'avais manigancé..... j'ai eu droit à un certain regard.... avec un petit sourir en coin et finalement nous voici avec une nouvelle Kia Niro EV sx touring 2020 et pour l'instant je n'ai que bon commentaire à dire..... Merci encore vous êtes ma source de référence lorsque j'ai des interrogation sur le véhicule !!!!
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
@@michelgagne9219 ça c'est une excellente histoire! J'adore et j'imagine le regard de votre épouse car si ça avait été moi et mon épouse j'ai une bonne idée de ce que ça pouvait être 😉 et je suis heureux de pouvoir aider 🙂
@VELEREPHONT3
@VELEREPHONT3 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Greece!!! nice video again!!! Apart from this comparison, do you have any idea about tesla models 3 or y? I assume they are bigger but i have watched quite few construction problems. Ps. I am very interested in buying e-niro here but i have no closed view of any yet 😎 Thank you very much in advance!!!
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. The Model Y is a better comparison to the Niro than the Model 3 since the Model 3 is not a hatchback, but the Model Y is much more expensive than the Niro. As for issues with Tesla vehicles, the problem is more with fit and finish of the cars. I will be making a comparison video of the Niro EV with the Tesla Model 3 which is a very similar size to the Niro EV.
@JohnRoss1
@JohnRoss1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andre for your videos .This latest one must have taken a lot of time to arrange and do. Very nice of Frank to "drop by" . Sun /moon roof is one option (not an option for my Niro) I could have down without. I have lots of headroom as i'm 5" 11" (180.34 cm for Robert Evans ) but KIA could have dropped the List price. I always worry about opening it and somehow it gets stuck open. I like the Tuxmats one less thing to worry about for winter. What are you doing for winter tires this fall? (Video?) I'm trying to "recycle" my 16" Blizzak snows to the Niro from my Camry Hybrid - Same width and circumferance as the 17" Michelin all season. The steel rims from the Toyota won't fit over the brake calipers. Ordered new steel rims and hope they fit. I showed at the Drive Week at Cambridge Ontario event so of course I was parked next to a very nice Kona too.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Yes, this was time consuming, but fun to do and I am happy I can help others to make a choice that suits their needs. Regarding winter tires, I have ordered Nokian R3 tires that I will put on the original alloy wheels and have ordered some EV specific allow wheels for summer. I will have a video about this soon (I hope), I am just waiting on the arrival of the new wheels. Thanks again.
@waynehobbs5175
@waynehobbs5175 5 жыл бұрын
Prices of the 2 vehicles would have been good. I have subscribed and hope to win a t shirt from overseas.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
I did the draw, here is the community post about it and the winners are listed. kzbin.info/door/_avWcw-xblUPC0izlbx-agcommunity
@danicklaliberte572
@danicklaliberte572 4 жыл бұрын
Salut André! As-tu expérimenté le bruit de carte avec le Niro?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, non, pas de bruit de carte avec ma voiture et j'ai 32,000km.
@danicklaliberte572
@danicklaliberte572 4 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution ok! Chanceux. Je ne sais plus quoi faire! Sur mon Kona ils ont changé le réducteur, le bruit est revenu, changé le moteur, le bruit est revenu, fait une rotation de 180° du réducteur et le bruit est encore une fois de retour. Je suis à court de solutions! Ils prévoient changer encore une fois le moteur.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
@@danicklaliberte572 je trouve étrange que le problème n'est pas corrigé car le trouble du bruit vient du moteur 710, et lorsque le moteur est changé pour le 711 le trouble est corrigé. Ceci est selon l'expérience de plusieurs personnes dans plusieurs forums. Le trouble n'est pas le réducteur. Par contre il est critique d'assurer l'alignement du input shaft. Je suggère de demander l'avis d'un autre concessionaire. Vous êtes dans quelle région?
@danicklaliberte572
@danicklaliberte572 4 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution j'ai pris RDV dans un concessionnaire sur la rive-sud. J'étais de la rive nord avant, mais j'ai déménagé depuis peu.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
@@danicklaliberte572 il semble que Kia Blainville est un excellent concessionaire sur la Rive-Nord. Je n'ai pas de références pour ceux de la Rive-Sud malgré que je suis à Brossard.
@drboxys
@drboxys 5 жыл бұрын
You got my subscibtion
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@be236
@be236 5 жыл бұрын
Since in my area, I can only get Kia Niro EV, but besides the boot space and back seat being larger in Niro EV, I do prefer the center display higher up in Kona Electric, as you dont have to look down on it in Niro EV when you're driving...
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
That is interesting because I am the opposite, I prefer the screen to be integrated so as to not take up room from visibility out of the car.
@be236
@be236 5 жыл бұрын
@@EV-olution hmm. I think you can stI'll look over past the higher kona screen to see outside
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
@@be236 Yes, you can see over it, I just prefer not having the screen higher up.
@das2190
@das2190 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see the tall guy fit in the kona! Sheesh.
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
That's the problem with being new to making videos... you don't think of these things until it's too late. Great idea, I wish I had thought of it.
@das2190
@das2190 4 жыл бұрын
Well maybe he has a youtube channel or social media?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, but I am not aware. Unfortunately I don't have his contact info any more.
@anri1255
@anri1255 4 жыл бұрын
So Niro doesn't has Heat pump for battery right?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
The heat pump is actually used by the AC and heating system (HVAC) in order to use less electricity. Then there is the battery heater that heats up the battery in the winter. Both are separate from each other and not related. In Canada the top trim SX Touring has both, but the entry level EX does not. The Kona on the otherhand gets both in both trims. In the US the EX and EX Premium get the heat pump, but the battery heater is dependent on the state the car is delivered to.
@ReevansElectro
@ReevansElectro 5 жыл бұрын
What are these weird measurements you use? Inches?? Are you aware that you are in Canada and we use metric like the rest of the world?
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but unfortunately the measuring tape I had was only in inches and I am not a human conversion calculator 😉. I could have converted and added text afterwards during editing, but I forgot to because I was in a rush to publish today since I am really late getting a video out. Next time I will bring the correct tape measure I promise 🙂.
@jdavison8551
@jdavison8551 5 жыл бұрын
Rest of the world doesn’t include UK. We still use inches.
@ReevansElectro
@ReevansElectro 5 жыл бұрын
@@jdavison8551 Inches are not the official measurement in the UK. You are just one of the few who cannot adjust to a proper standard.
@jdavison8551
@jdavison8551 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Evans official or not, both systems are used by a large proportion of the population with few problems. Inches remain in common usage. It’s a fact provided to you free and gratis. Feel free to disregard if you prefer.
@electriccars-EV
@electriccars-EV 5 жыл бұрын
Check my latest e-soul 2020 video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIuTp3lqmMaGjaM
@atariandre5014
@atariandre5014 4 жыл бұрын
Funny.....bootspace measured in inches.....distances driven measured in kilometers.....
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
That's because the tape measure I had was the wrong one, it only had inches. My other one has both standard and metric, but it was too late to go back to get it.
@markmd9
@markmd9 4 жыл бұрын
From thumbnail I thought a blind person will talk about EV
@EV-olution
@EV-olution 4 жыл бұрын
They are prescription glasses that tint when exposed to the sun, but I get what you mean.
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