Evolutions that DIDN'T Help These Pokemon

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These evolutions FAILED to get their evolutionary line out of competitive limbo
0:00 - Intro
2:48 Dusknoir
6:36 - Wyrdeer
9:48 - Electivire
13:28 - Farigiraf (Singles)
16:48 - Honorable Mention
17:54 - Mr. Rime
20:24 - Outro
Directed & Narrated by Kellen
Written By Kevin aka BKC / @bkcplayspokemon
Edited By Connor Nguyen aka CDK / cdk_1989
Game Capture Artist: DarkMusician / of_darkmusician
Songs Used (List of ALL Songs used for this series. Some may or may not make it into the video):
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[@FalseSwipeGaming]

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[@darkdragon7210]

Why Natures are Everything - The Chansey/ Blissey Theorem!!! Make it happen!!!

[@Eldorriots]

Okay JPR

[@MrGksarathy]

@@FalseSwipeGaming I am so glad you specified the Farigaraf section was for Singles only.

[@originalJoeKing]

Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪

[@typemasters2871]

It’s funny when a new Pokemon evolution BUFFS it’s now pre-evolution with the simple change of “this Pokemon can now use Eviolite”

[@saiyanscaris6530]

funny enough that caused a leak with dipplin where it being allowed to hold eviolite and get the boost cause of coding. showing that it indeed had another evolution which we later found out was hydrapple

[@Noahs_Chair]

Porygon 2 career would have been crazy different without Porygon Z.

[@jamesrutley1009]

Duksnoir's greatest accomplishment to date

[@BigggyK]

@@jamesrutley1009was looking for this comment lol

[@37Jhian]

Eviolite Bisharp was mid at using eviolite but I'll take his design over kingambit

[@PedroHenrique-mk5zi]

Incineroar 🤝 Farigiraf Terrible at Singles, great at Doubles.

[@Rarest26]

Tbf being NU this gen is like being UU last gen so it’s not that awful

[@sephikong8323]

Incineroar was actually kind of decent in the past, King of NU in Gen 7, for a time it had a legitimate niche in OU during the Pokemon Home meta of Gen 8 (I personally was a really big advocate for it at the time because Intimidate + Will O Wisp + Knock Off + Parting Shot was a great combination of tools to help check the opposing offense whilst keeping momentum whilst forcing progress by removing items. Incineroar was a very solid defensive pivot during this metagame) and then went on to again be great in NU

[@mipho5899]

Incineroar is NU. Raikou, Infernape, Swampert, Cresselia, Deoxys Defense, Munkidori, Mienshao, Flygon and Lycanroc Dusk are in this tier and it's top 10 minimum there as well. My point is, any Pokemon ranked for NU should not considered to be terrible in gen 9. The tier is so unbelievably powerful.

[@Rarest26]

@@mipho5899 Powercreep is so absurd that if you’re ranked at all, you’re fine. And you can still say some stuff below PU isn’t that bad.

[@MariokibmibYT]

​@@Rarest26 Shaymin lol

[@glacierwolf2155]

Dudunsparce didn't help Dunsparce? Dudunsparce let Dunsparce wreck Little Cup.

[@sonofhades57]

Exactly! Dunsparce got to use Eviolite and then it got banned for being too powerful!

[@amysticmind2645]

It helped me out with a low tier beast in draft league too

[@Raminator243]

Dunsparce is a beast in LC Ubers too

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

If we weren't in the powercreep hell gen Dunsparce with Eviolite would have been really good in some lower tier. Like it has decent bulk, roost despite not being a flying type, calm mind with stab boomburst, and serene grace which like it's too slow to spam headbutt and flinch or something but it's definitely useful to have in some way

[@SPZ-gv2on]

Dudun got a great niche in draft, and dunsparce also got way better in draft.

[@doubl2480]

Dusknoir and Electivire are two cases impacted by "Gen 4 happened and the Physical/Special split happened". Their pre-evolutions in Gen 3 would have relied on Shadow Ball (physical) and Thunderbolt (special) as their stabs. But Electabuzz evolved into a Pokemon with a better physical stat while getting no new Electric physical move, and Dusclops did the same while losing Shadow Ball (since it became Special) and they didn't even gave it Shadow Claw... It's infuriating to me how many generations it took to give some of these Pokemon a good stab of their main type AND main offensive stat after the split, or at least one without drawback (not counting the two-turns moves, not counting Wild Charge). Poltergeist didn't happen until GEN 8, and we are only now unlocking Superslam Cell for Pokemons like Luxray who needed this SIXTEEN YEARS AGO!

[@dengar96]

How we don't have more parity between types and attacking spreads kinda baffles me. It's cool that certain types only get a strong physical spread move or a priority attack, but it really kills some mons. The lack of reliable fire priority or high BP physical ghost moves limits so many pokemon. It's not even hard to balance, just don't give it to pokes that have high base stats. It's an easy buff to existing mons.

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

Yeah, Dusknoir would've been amazing in Adv. It could do everything that Dusklops could but also boast amazing offensive presence with Shadow Ball and Focus Punch coming from a respectable Atk. It's just that literally everything else that came with the generational shift worked against Dusknoir.

[@homerman76]

​@@dengar96 Yeah, adjusting who can learn what and taking a look at what kind of moves don't exist is something they really need to do next Gen, so many Pokemon are tossed because of terrible move pools limiting their options, meanwhile some Pokemon have way too many tools in their pocket.

[@1stCallipostle]

It's still not the most Egregious case of not handing out Shadow Claw. Gourgeist has claw shaped hair hands, and REALLY needed ghost STAB that wasn't phantom force. But no, it had to wait for Poltergeist which is useless for in-game play because NPCs don't bother with items.

[@doubl2480]

@@1stCallipostle Reminds me of some other ridiculous cases of logic, like Hippopotas not learning Dig before HG/SS (even by TM), or Heliolisk not learning Solar Beam (even by TM) before Gen 8 despite being a walking solar panel.

[@MaahirMomtaz12]

Since Mr. Rime is known as the Comedian Pokémon, it should 110% get Chilly Reception. It would be amazing in higher tiers with the ability to be a faster pivot compared to Slowking. Plus it'd get a Defense boost and Mr. Rime has low Defense

[@loudwhispre9406]

Being a slow pivot is the entire point of Slowking. Slow pivots get hit before switching out, which protects the incoming Pokemon from any damage. Slowking is very bulky, so taking the hit to protect other Pokemon is fine, since Slowking can take the hit without dying. On top of that, it has Regenerator, an ability that heals you when you pivot. Mr. Rime would definitely not become a higher tier Pokemon off of gaining Chilly Reception. Mr. Rime has worse HP, Defense, and Special Defense than Slowking, while also lacking the automatic recovery that is Regenerator. And in pivot wars, going last is great because you see what the other player pivots to *_BEFORE YOU CHOOSE YOUR SWITCH-IN_* so you even get to counterpick their switch-in. So Mr. Rime is completely outclassed by Slowking for being less bulky, having less recovery, and contrary to your point, Mr. Rime having better speed makes it a worse pivot as well. Would Chilly Reception help Mr. Rime be useful in lower tiers? Absolutely. He has respectable bulk for those tiers, is quite hard-hitting, and even has a decent speed stat to outspeed bad Pokemon. But he'd never be a higher tier anything, let alone a high tier alternative to Slowking.

[@MaahirMomtaz12]

@@loudwhispre9406 I never said it'd be better than Slowking. I said it'd be able to function in a higher tier than PU

[@dengar96]

​@MaahirMomtaz12 I honestly don't think it would even get to NU. It just dies to ant decent priority. mienshao claps it, talonflame claps it, anything good removes it in one hit. It's going to be permanently PU at best.

[@Skeloperch]

@@dengar96 It's not supposed to threaten speedy Pokemon. It's supposed to scare slower Pokemon with its coverage, forcing them to switch into a Steel type that it uses Chilly Reception on to pivot.

[@Arden2000]

@@loudwhispre9406 Fast pivoting is still useful since you can react if your opponent switches or not. Its the same reason Zapdos would use BP with no boosting moves in ADV

[@alexdehatter2151]

Dunsparce: "Who are you?" Dudunsparce: "I'm you, but longer."

[@hartantoanggoro]

Badum tsss

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

Glad you added that singles qualifier in the chapters because Farigiraf was/is AMAZING in VGC

[@ianhubble9973]

why hello there EWGF

[@FalseSwipeGaming]

In Hindsight, we probably could have talked a lot more about how polarizing its usage is between VGC and Singles

[@Rarest26]

@@FalseSwipeGaming Make it a short then, should be good enough.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@FalseSwipeGaming I think it should’ve been removed altogether.

[@blueyandicy]

​@@skeetermania3202Why? This is a primarily singles focused channel, so he talked about how the evo didn't help at all in SINGLES. Not that difficult to understand

[@Ykwkye499]

Dunsparce evolving into dudunsparce is genius

[@antoniopriego5660]

It was a middle finger for those expecting a super mystical dragon. Do you like Dunsparce so much you want an evo? Here, have a thing that is even more Dunsparce than Dunsparce Love Dunsparce because of what it is, not because of what do you think it should be

[@UnchainedPandoran]

I like Dudunsparce for how silly it is.

[@Aaronrules380]

Anyone who wanted dunsparce to become just another magikarp clearly didn’t properly appreciate dunsparce

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

​@@NoxObscura7wow, is almost as if not every pokemon is supposted to be competitively viable and their various stats distributions and lore are more important than the pebble infested, 30 turn minimun smogon meta😂 Plus, is very good on Playthroughts. If you struggled, you just are very bad at a kids game

[@Genesis23OPB]

the fakemons are so much better, as it becomes the norm more and more

[@benross9174]

Farigiraf is amazing in VGC at least. And it gets better with higher power level arguably so its immune to power creep

[@DanBlabbers]

Agreed he’s top tier in vgc

[@MrGksarathy]

@@benross9174 I am thankful the FSG team put that disclaimer specifically because of this.

[@Reginald425]

I don’t really get how it’s immune to power creep as such

[@lertik3898]

@@Reginald425 Essentially Farigiraf's power comes from it's unique ability and good movepool. It doesn't have much competition for what it provides, and because it's a support, the stronger their partners, the more impactful they are. It's not immune to powercreep, but it most certainly will keep being valuable until it's tools either become more widespread, or it gets much fiercer competition because it's utility will not become any less useful with time

[@bigmonke3348]

​@@Reginald425basically bro blocks priority moves which are very useful and important since going first is obviously important in battle and fake out/prankster are popular. Also it can set up trick room, support and sometimes hit hard.

[@jamesaditya5254]

There's one universally good thing that came from all of these evolutions. They allow the pre-evo to hold eviolite

[@ethandavis2373]

Shoulda been called the Dusknoir Theorem

[@ILiekFishes]

dusknoir gives dusclops eviolite

[@ethandavis2373]

@@ILiekFishes but that's true of every mon on this list. He even said himself that Dusknoir is perfectly emblematic of the principle that some evolutions don't help improve a line's viability.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@ethandavis2373You could still argue that an indirect buff through a good Eviolite user is still “improving” the Pokémon, which is why I don’t think Dusknoir is that emblematic of this “theorem.”

[@matteoceleste4406]

What if I teach it ice punch though?

​@@ILiekFishesbackhanded praise.

[@joshuakim5240]

To this day, it still baffles me that for some reason almost third of Dusknoir's evolution stat increase is in...Speed of all things. Why?

[@yahngawrit]

For that glare headbutt flinch

[@culoide7952]

Yeah, those 20 points could’ve been uses for its health

[@user-mp9pn9bz3z]

What do you mean? Dusknoir does seem a Pokemon that should be faster than his pre-evolution, even if it is just for his Pokedex descriptions (it chases spirits to bring them to the afterlife)

[@bestaround3323]

​@@user-mp9pn9bz3zbecause the speed increase makes very little practical difference and takes away points that could be better allocated pretty much anywhere else

[@marcelosandoval4206]

Plot Twist Dudunsparce top cut a regional Ivar Vliegr (it also had a Squawkability on the team)

[@willtaggart]

Got any links or other info?

[@noahberan6498]

this makes me so happy as a Squawkabilly fan, my little guy did something

[@kingofcrap4414]

Common Dudunsparce W

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

Fun fact: G-Mime and Mr Rime have the closest to a perfect Super Effective Moveset only being surpassed by W-Kyurem... ·Freeze-Dry ·Shadow Ball ·Focus -Miss- Blast ·Stomping Tantrum/HP-Ground (Kyurem gets Earth Power and one of the Highest Base SpAtk Stats in the game) Hitting a massive 1032 Existing Pokemon Super Effectively, and only 160 hit for Neutral Damage (that's 86.7% of the game taking hits Super Effectively) with 0 Not Very Effective or Immune Opponents!

[@Arkegox]

Whats the W-Kyurem moveset?

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

@@Arkegox that same moveset except Earth Power is better because it's 90 Base Power and you don't have to worry about Physical Attack investment.

[@sussy3778]

Electivire main flaw really is that they made it slower without really making it bulkier, the thing has almost as much bulk as Electabuzz without its good speed. Electric has the advantage of only being weak to ground which is probably why most of them are frail, so if Vire had good HP and defenses it could likely crave niches as a bulky mixed attacker, especially if it got Bulk Up earlier.

[@Venandi_]

Farigiraf Me: BULLSH- Singles only Me: okay yeah that’s fair

[@Kris_King]

Dunspace getting a dragon evolution is a clear case of people not knowing what a Tsuchinoko is. It's a joke of "danger beast" and it's pretty clear to see that Dunsparce was almost meant to be a troll of a Pokemon. Dundunsparce just continues that trend.

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Adding to that, dunsparce is also a parody of those superpowerful post game items that you need to beat a secret boss in RPGs. Sure they are shiny, but ultimately useless when there is nothing to use them for, just bragging rights Same with Dunsparce, minus the superpowerful part. Funnily enough, Dudunspaece is also a self parody of how a lot of gen 1 and 2 pokemon just got bigger when they evolve, like Typlosion or Noctowl

[@melvv18]

Like it look like goofy design, so is not shocking that they got a goofy evolution. I don't know why people were expecting anything else.

[@victory8928]

That is the thing thought it kinda doesn’t add much from the myths but just doubles down on the base of dunsparce. I love it honestly cause I love dunsparce but to say you can’t make the pokemon based on a drunken snake not have an evolution based on other parts of its mythology feels like a misses potential. Dundunsparce just exists which is nice for a troll mon, I love it just for that, but again gamefreak wasn’t trying they just went “welp lets make the troll mon more trolly” and ignore other methods to do so that isn’t just “make danger noodle longer”. I do love that it is used in a restaurant makes me think of dundunsparce is drinking with its trainer

[@AloMoMoMola]

it being based on the Tsuchinoko is a really good reason as to why it SHOULD'VE gotten a cool dragon evolution, giving Dunsparce another segment on it's body is nowhere near as funny as having it evolve into a Terrifying Gigantic Wasp/Dragon Hybrid Serpent Creature with a 600 BST you can even keep the Dopey face stuck on the giant dragon body for added humour

[@crown_void7]

@@melvv18so you truly expected they were going to just ad a “dun” to its name and make it longer???

[@MrGksarathy]

Wyrdeer being on this list breaks my heart because it is one of my favorite PLA Pokemon thanks to Lord Wyrdeer.

[@yunaka_gaming]

Its a sick look, but damn is it terrible

[@MrGksarathy]

@@yunaka_gaming I mean, the design and lore are just so good. Why couldn't it have been more like Ursaluna...?

[@bigmonke3348]

Honestly it mightve been saved if it got fur coat ability, gotten body press and made psyshield bash a special move

[@andrewzorpas234]

@@bigmonke3348change the stats to lower physical attack and increase speed, add fur coat, hyper voice, nasty plot and uhh recover?? Maybe could help or rather suffice

[@grizzlyscalp9506]

I can't fathom what they were thinking . It's atrocious.

[@darklightning2730]

Something tells me Dusknoir is on this list. Edit: Now (at this moment) it’s the thumbnail Pokémon.

[@grixan8012]

I mean it helped Dusclops at least lmao

[@magdalenomartinezjr8805]

It only buffs Dusclops and it alone

[@shade08538]

Bros literally the FIRST one on the list 😭

[@hesleyrokemon4528]

It did help, it made Dusclops better by allowing it to use Eviolite and be bulkier. So technically, it did help.

[@eqsaz]

But it can crush OU pros by ice punching Landorus...

[@GunnGuardian]

I feel like PokeRogue proved how much Dusknoir is starving for recovery. It becomes an amazing pokemon with just Drain Punch and Bulk Up.

[@tigerman7527]

I feel Strength Sap helped it way more, being able to recover while lowering the opponents attack does wonders for its longevity as well as improving its chances to set up that bulk up sweep in the first place.

[@marcelosandoval4206]

@@tigerman7527it has a Big Mouth that apparently drains energy So I don’t understand why Dusknoir doesn’t get Strength Sap

[@sephikong8323]

Also, It definitely should get Levitate. Duskull has it, I understand why Dusklops doesn't but Dusknoir should get it back

[@tigerman7527]

@@marcelosandoval4206 You'd think the reaper Pokemon that puts souls into its body would be able to learn a life draining move like Strength Sap. Instead, the best Gamefreak can give it for recovery is... the unreliable Pain Split and just recently in SV: Leech Life, a bug move which is the most resisted type in the game so this really doesn't help Dusknoir recover reliably with its middling attack stat

[@joshuakim5240]

@@marcelosandoval4206 It does get Leech Life, which is...not bad, but it would be much nicer to have that in tandem with Drain Punch.

[@thefirespecialist9007]

I love Dusknoir as a Design, but 2 changes need to happen to make it better. 1- Looking at the design, it should regain Levitate as it's primary Ability. 2- Gain Moonlight as its Recovery move.

[@Lagi42800]

Totally agree

[@shatteredsentient5321]

I would give it Iron Fist as well

[@lordmolag45000]

Also, it should gain Last Respects. I know it's banned in doubles, but in singles, Dusknoir, paired with a choice scarf, can at least become somewhat of an intimidating late-match sweeper.

[@AndrewCheshire]

Are you kidding?? Dudunsparce can finally do what Dunsparce has tried to do for twenty years but couldn't... And now Dunsparce can too because of Eviolite!

[@sayzar9474]

Farigiraf pretty much made that evolution line relevant again as Girafarig was kinda forgettable by itself so I think that’s a win

[@Smart1529]

Agreed, let's not forget how good it has been in doubles lately. If a Pokémon succeeds in one format then it's a win for me. Look a Skarmory, awesome in singles, terrible in doubles.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

I will never forgive Dusknoir being cursed with pressure instead of getting levitate. DUSKULL has levitate, but just because Dusclops grew legs it was swapped out for pressure of all things. It's just like Horsea losing swift swim for poison point when it evolves into Seadra. But that changes BACK TO SWIFT SWIM When it evolves into Kingdra, so why was Dusknoir screwed over? And ofc its hidden ability is frisk, just to add insult to injury with a second terrible ability.

[@josephbulkin9222]

What's wrong with Pressure?

[@jamesrutley1009]

​@josephbulkin9222 it just doesn't make much of a difference It's not terrible, but there are a ton of abilities that are just way more valuable. Dusknoir in particular is very poorly suited to take advantage of pressure because it has bad survivability

[@arnaul_de_lapras5853]

@@josephbulkin9222 one of the most useless habs in pokemon

[@josephbulkin9222]

@@arnaul_de_lapras5853 until it drains all of your attacks, that is.

[@HazeEmry]

​@@josephbulkin9222 everything is gonna die before pp is all used up dude. It's only usable in a stall team. Frisk is useless in open team sheet too

[@firetamer]

In Electivire's defence, I did find a nice niche for it when gen 4 was the most recent generation. I simply got Electivire with a physical build and Zapdos with a special build, making sure to give Electivire Earthquake and Zapdos Discharge. The Electivire and Zapdos combo served me pretty well back then when I was playing doubles. For some reason a lot of people just didn't expect Zapdos to use Discharge and give Electivire a speed boost while damaging both their Pokemon and then have Electivire use Earthquake. It allowed me to have a few 4v4 matches that lasted two turns.

[@oworcah]

Interesting how most of the Pokemons here lost speed by evolving, it seems it is a really important factor

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

I think that honchkrow undoubtedly deserves to be on the list. Him not having prankster is a sin.

[@tritonhill9684]

Prankster alone would've changed this mon's whole career, look at what Murkrow did in early S/V VGC

[@teddyhaines6613]

Honchkrow took a previously NU pokemon line to UUBL in its debut generation. That's as dramatic as improvements get.

[@arnaul_de_lapras5853]

honchkrow it's not bad at all

[@noahberan6498]

Honchkrow was RU as recently as gen 7, so it was good, power creep just caught up with it

[@EggscellentTree]

Mainly in vgc. Also during honchkrow debut gen murkrow didn't have prankster so honchkrow was better then, no debate.

[@vannsylten6765]

Electivire should get Sheer Force. With +30 power in most of its moves, it could be the potent mixed attacker it was always mean to be.

[@teddyhaines6613]

But then it's too slow, and mixed attacking means your ability to max speed EVs is also compromised. And unlike Nidoking you don't have as many resistances to let you switch in.

[@goGothitaLOL]

@@teddyhaines661385 Spe didn’t stop Nidoking from bullying UU if not OU in gens 5, 6, 7, and even 8 EDIT: ok, didn’t read the second part, but 123 Atk in conjunction with Sheer Force must do something (Conk has Sheer Force but has no STAB for it and thus never uses it)

[@teddyhaines6613]

@@goGothitaLOL Like I said, Nidoking had resistances to let it switch in. Electivire doesn't have that going for it.

[@FatalGecko58]

I knew that Electivire was going to be on the list even before the video started since Electabuzz from Electivire didn’t really help it that much, and I fell it made it worse. I feel like some good changes that could be made to Electivire are what it gets in the Blaze Black 2/Volt White 2 Reduxes, where it is actually pretty good, these changes being: -Electric/Fighting -Access of a good fighting movepool such as Close Combat, Hammer Arm, which is get in the roms. -Gaining Volt Tackle, which it also gains in the rom. -Maybe 100 speed and 85 HP?

[@g.williams2047]

A lot of the issues with many Pokémon like it are the lack of a good physical/special stab. Give it physical thunderbolt

[@davidhyatoola3127]

GF not giving Electivire Close Combat is an epic fail. It looks like a fighting type and could punch really fast. Supercell Slam should’ve been like an electric type High Jump Kick or a more accurate electric type Mega Kick. Having Iron Fist instead of Vital Spirit, access to Grass Knot + CC + Icicle Crash + Power Whip + Volt Tackle, improved stat spread(+20Sp.Atk,+10HP,+5Defense,+5Sp.Def) would also improve Electivire nicely.

[@goGothitaLOL]

@@davidhyatoola3127 And to add insult to injury Anything Electivire can do, Pawmot can do it better Electric/Fighting typing 105 Spe Iron Fist ability Only thing it has that Pawmot doesn’t is EQ and Trailblaze, and that’s it. And whiling Bulk Up and Knock Off are nice, it is also too little too later.

[@Smart1529]

@@FatalGecko58 Electivire should be getting Swords Dance. It's great it now has Bulk Up. But where is Swords Dance. For the longest time Electivire and Magmortor had no boosting moves to its name. Again at least it got Bulk Up and Knock Off along with Trailblaze and Supercell Slam, making it tolerable. But it's too late at this point, this Pokémon is primarily a low tier Pokémon and I have no choice but to accept that. Next time Close Combat, Swords Dance and maybe a new physical electric move or buff Wild Charge to 120 to warrant the recoil.

[@mega-swampy1311]

Porygon-Z had a step up from taking on as defensive Trick Room setter to Hyper(beam) offensive glass cannon and took this further with Terastalization, taking advantage of it’s Adaptability boosts and taking it even further, and even Kieran uses one and it’s among the bigger threats on his team

[@LucRio448]

Wait, did you just entirely ignore the fact that Farigiraf is a relativvely common mon in VGC, even with restricted legendaries allowed? o.o

[@Matpit18]

Dudunsparce 🤝 Farigaraf Having the best buff to their evolutionary line be a chance for their pre-evolution to thrive in Little Cup

[@jamesrutley1009]

Didn't they both get banned?

[@drnolegs797]

Somewhat surprised you didn't include Mismagius/Misdrevous, given that Misdrevous is just better than Mismagius competitively, and it's somewhat poignant given how ridiculous Flutter Mane is in modern times. I still love how Mismagius looks, though.

[@RaceBandit]

Huh? Gheestobesto the Mismagius did well for me...

[@mediocreviddygameplayer]

When has Misdreavous been better than Mismagius??? This sounds wild

[@cinder8155]

Dunsparce was made to be a joke Dudunsparce continues the joke

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

Dunsparce wasn't even very good as a joke pokemon tbh, it's better than like half the gen 2 dex lmfao.

[@MilkshakeVA]

i like to think dudunsparce was game freak being tired of everybody asking for a dunsparce evolution and so they basically turned it into "okaaaay. you want it? here it coooomes!" honestly as a dunsparce fan, seeing everybody be mad at it is kinda funny to me. be careful what you wish for y'all

[@richardtaveras3593]

Repeating a joke twice doesn’t make it funny

[@mastanvx]

​@@richardtaveras3593 You're right. Third time's the charm! *Introducing DUDUDUNSPARCE!!!*

[@SPZ-gv2on]

​@@mastanvxCan't wait for the split evo dudunsparcearce

[@michaelcarlton1484]

Dunsparce was always going to be a fat snake. That's literally the story it's based on.

[@Unknwnwrrior]

Two major ones I feel you forgot about: Lickilicky: improves on Lickitung but not in any viable way. Too weak to be offensive, decently bulky but no recovery* and slow to boot. It just doesn't do anything... and its usage reflects that. Literally its only set for like the past 4 generations was Wish passing and yeah... it wasn't even particularly amazing at this either. You also have to consider that Wish was a Gen3 PCNY event move (like Wish Chansey) which meant that actually using it was mostly limited to simulator (because very few people actually have this Pokémon on cart) and wasn't even legal in any official metagame and will be summarily deleted in any future game as well. Bellossom: It genuinely doesn't do anything better than Vileplume. It trades SpA for Def which is insane because Vileplume is probably the most well known for being a good physical wall with its Effect Spore and Strength Sap making it one of the best repeated switch-ins to Fighting types that aren't Guts. Instead it loses its Poison typing which comes a gen too late to be a benefit and replaces it with... nothing? I guess? Basically making it a worse Tangela. It gets Quiver Dance in later generations but it's so slow it needs at least 2 to outspeed anything and even then isn't usually strong enough to OHKO stuff even at +2. It's also susceptible to all status (bye Toxic immunity!), all entry hazards and doesn't have any particularly hard hitting moves.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Iirc gen 4 Lickilicky has a somewhat notable niche in being the strongest Explosion in the game, that can hit some unique benchmarks. This isn't exactly GOOD, but it is a thing you can leverage. Then they nerfed explosion.

[@goGothitaLOL]

You forgot one Cursola, so bad nobody used it over Eviolite G-Corsola

[@HazeEmry]

​@@goGothitaLOL I'll be honest, I forgot it existed

[@abraham-kun4144]

What's with Game Freak reducing speed stat on Pokémon when evolving? It's ridiculous.

[@myriad3569]

Trick room?

[@teddyhaines6613]

Considering the two OG post-gen evolutions - Steelix and Scizor - both did it, guess they see it as a tradition by now.

[@usuallyangry]

It's not just the evolutions. Game Freak has been making a LOT of Pokémon stupidly slow lately, and hit-and-missing on good stat spreads to make up for them.

[@ResidentTarantino]

I love that you require owning Legends Arceus to evolve Pokémon like Stantler into Wyrdeer. Putting new evolutions behind whole game paywalls instead of adapting them into future games is such a great idea

[@Nisi1]

yeah it's almost as cool as locking must-have pokemon behind DLC paywalls

[@homerman76]

​@@Nisi1tbf, that's where they intend trading to come in since you CAN access those Pokemon, just not catch them yourself (it's really no different than version exclusives and needing previous games to bring in Pokemon you otherwise can't capture in the region you're playing 🤔)

[@ResidentTarantino]

@@Nisi1 very cool. I clapped during gen 8, I clapped for gen 9. and I will be clapping for gen 10

[@pokefanalex9504]

The thing that really gets in my nerves is the rest of the Pokemon in Arceus have some way to get them in SV's DLC except for Wyrdeer Why can't we have nice things

[@ResidentTarantino]

@@pokefanalex9504 Hisuian Qwilfish evolves THE SAME WAY Stantler does in PLA, and yet it gets a pass to evolve in SV but not Stantler

[@Pepeutra]

I have more VGC knowledge than singles, so while I watched this video while brushing my hair, as I turned my head slightly I saw the silhouette of Farigiraf and snapped my head towards the screen

[@TomFawkes]

Dunsparce is perfect and Dudunsparce is more perfect.

[@glacierwolf2155]

@@TomFawkes It's just so goofy, I like it.

[@kirbo4964]

Dundunsparce is perfect

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

It's peperfect

[@saiyanscaris6530]

didnt expect to see you here

[@MatildatheMoonwolf]

This guy gets it

[@donkarasu-9644]

Dusknoir didn't help? It gave us one of the best Pokemon Mystery Dungeon characters ever.

[@Illumisepoolist]

Can you do Nerfs that didn't stop these Pokémon?

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

The thing with Electrivire is that his movepool seemed great, but it was actually downright terrible. Getting Bulk Up, Knock Off and Supercell Slam in gen9 was nice but not enough. It should also get: - Swords Dance - Belly Drum - Mach Punch - Power Whip - Close Combat - Drain Punch - Bolt Strike (with Magmortar getting Blue Flare)

[@andrewzorpas234]

I saw a comment saying give it sheer force and that's not half bad but idrk, it's a mixed attacker but its special attack isnt even that high, alright coverage on the special side wirh flamethrower too, either way it's too slow to beat offensive mons and its physical moves lack high base power

[@goGothitaLOL]

@@andrewzorpas234I feel alike 123 Atk + Sheer Force has potential (Thunder Punch and Ice Punch boosted by 1.3x the power), and that’s before Life Orb Nidoking’s Atk is only 102, and that has damage output outdone by its special movepool from 85 Sp. Atk. Darmanitan has 140 Atk but the most noteworthy move boosted by Sheer Force is Flare Blitz, and then it fizzles out into Rock Slide and Zen Headbutt (neither of which it uses AFAIK). Magmortar has even more potential with Sheer Force with its 83 Spe only being 2 points slower than Nidoking’s 85, but hypothetically much stronger cause 125 Sp. Atk + Sheer Force.

[@andrewzorpas234]

@@goGothitaLOL nidoking doesn't have moves on the physical side to abuse sheer force, darm is good, magmortar yes due to having a strong stab, if wild charge was double edge but electric and if electivire had better min maxdd stats then that would be all it needs to succeed

[@QuestionableLogic_]

Wyrdeer is funny because its biggest issue is that Farigiraf exists

[@kylekiske_]

"Like the bomb from Kiss Me Deadly" I see you BKC.

[@Daniel-td5gi]

Tbh I find it insane that Lickilicky was not mentioned even if it was decent brawler in DPP it has been outclassed by everything else ever since and you that if Snorlax has fallen to NU lickilicky is always going to be untiered I'm so sad about this cause I unironically love Lickilicky

[@webbowser8834]

Hey that's not fair, Lickilicky has the distinction of completely outclassing Regigigas even in the lower tiers.

[@jmcbango]

Yea lickilicky sucks, but thats a BIG improvement on lickitung (plus being the only mon with stab explosion was kinda cool in gen 4 at least)

[@RaceBandit]

"BOOM BOOM BOOM WITH KNIVES" is probably the funniest moveset name I saw from Serebii, and it went to Lickilicky's Swords Dance + Explosion moveset.

[@yuki_on_ice]

For 3 stagers, the 2nd evolution can use Eviolite, for 2 stagers, the 1st form can use Eviolite and be banned from Little Cup.

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

Looking forward to the "Evolutions that helped these Pokemon"

[@goGothitaLOL]

*saved or redeemed these pokémon

[@iCABALi]

smh my head, imagine not mentioning Choice Band Ice Punch Dusknoir, the destroyer of worlds.

[@timo395]

Farigiraf is used quite a bit in VGC I think so it’s a bit unfair to not call it an improvement.

[@RFE812]

I think this list is mainly referring to singles.

[@marcelosandoval4206]

13:32 Read small text on the corner

[@marcelosandoval4206]

13:32 Read small text on the corner

[@marcelosandoval4206]

@@RFE812 13:32 Read small text on the corner

[@RFE812]

@@marcelosandoval4206 I figured they were referring to singles. I guess Farigaraf is another Pokémon who is good in doubles but not so good in singles.

[@gabrielevalentini4438]

We gotta give credit to Kleavor though... They cooked so hard with Scizor that it was lowkey impossible to do any better, coming from the same base😂

[@sanscomic4226]

I have a silly idea,five Pokémon running explosion and set up moves and one kingambit.

[@reignis9937]

I feel like Farigarif shouldnt have made the list, despite the note, but it was exactly made with VGC in mind and not singles like a lot of mons in SV.

[@marcelosandoval4206]

13:32 Read small text on the corner

[@reignis9937]

@@marcelosandoval4206 and I just said "despite the note", read my sentence again 😅 People need to take into account the competitive scene of singles is mostly a fans things and I doubt it goes into the minds of the designers as much. It doesn't excuse their mistakes, but there's a clear vision at times.

[@kitsunekage12]

@@reignis9937 Frankly, that's kind of the designers fault in the first place. How absurd is it that the 'official competitive scene' of Pokemon is double battles, when in game double battles are *at best* a novelty you do every so often when a character joins you in story content? I don't *mind* that double battles are the official format, and I actually kind of love double battles - maybe even to the point of preferring them to single battles. But Gamefreak and The Pokemon Company do a *terrible* job of showcasing the 'official competitive format' in any main line Pokemon series, to the point where the 'official' format is almost only ever a primary focus in *spin off games* of all things. Colosseum and Gale of Darkness both featured double battles all throughout the series, as the *main form of battle* in the games, and yet the main series games leave it relegated to post game content like battle towers and story mode content where you find an NPC to pair up with. It just doesn't make sense for them to say that they mainly balance around doubles and then the release of the game is *nothing but single matches* - there is just a massive disconnect in communication there from the developers to the players.

[@reignis9937]

@@kitsunekage12 I do agree with your statement but, I will just point a thing out Colosseum and Gale are the way they are cause it was the gimmick of gen 3. They were trying to introduce a new mode and I still am not 💯 sure how it panned out but it's what the VGC format shaped to be after that. We even had that double battle gym lol I guess as far the novelty went, I would say they quit it or didn't bother anymore. Which is really weird lol

[@blueyandicy]

​@@kitsunekage12That's so real lmao, why is singles the primary format in game. Like when would you ever be able to use tastuguri outside of competitive lmao

[@calvinmatthews1527]

So the Electavire Theorem?

[@bishopcole6723]

I want " How good would these evolutions be if they were in the generation the prior evolution came from actually"

[@killerwolff3048]

Dont let Paul see this video he might release his Electrive

[@ericregis3912]

It might not be good, but I was so happy when I saw that Dundunsparce was just Dunsparce+, with more segments, more wings, more stripes, more chin spikes and even more eyelids. Anything else wouldn't feel like a true dunsparce evolution. Easily one of my favorite gen 9 mons.

[@bdt2002gaming]

Giving a bad Pokémon an evolution is like giving a bad sports team a high draft pick. The additions need to be complementary of what the Pokémon needs instead of something that won’t actually be useful in the long run. Part of why Kingambit remains as strong as it is nowadays is in part because it was an evolution of a Pokémon that was already considered viable on its own.

[@BumbleBee-Bread]

Electivire is very scary running up like that, I could hear the loud thumping of his feet

[@bradschaefer2387]

Funnily enough, I own the Fall Dusk Holzkern and am getting another Holzkern in the mail today

[@jstar3382]

A normal cool evolution for dunsparce would've been unmemorable. Dudunsparce is perfection

[@ajaymishra1513]

Dusknoirs best niche was letting dusclops hold an eviolite (much better name though)

[@JJBeauregard1]

I think I suffered a stroke listening to the Mr Rime segment, haha

[@iBenjamin1000]

Bro I think that’s the second appearance of ‘why this Pokémon sucks’ on the channel for both e-vire and noir

[@sonofhades57]

I object to Dudunsparce being the thumbnail. Not on the grounds of it being particularly powerful in its own right, but because it's a way better and funnier evolution than the generic serpentine dragon everyone thought it was going to become.

[@mathewricafrente5984]

Tbh most dragon type Dunsparce evos I've seen were basically Rayquaza-lite designs, so making the evolution a literal Photoshop job is hilarious

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Funnily enough, is also a more creative evolution than the likes of Typhlosion, Magneton, Feraligatr and co. At least being it preevo but bigger is part of the joke😂

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

100%

[@plagueboi2861]

@@mysticpumpkin8520 You did not just insult Typhlosion 😠. It's not its fault that the 3d model massacred it.

[@CaptainObliviousV]

@@plagueboi2861 nah, even after they fixed the fire in SV, base Typhlosion has always been middle of the pack, 2D & 3D

[@monster25man]

Aaahh c'mon That was the whole joke of dundunsparce. It's supposed to be a lame evolution because it's an evolution of Dunsparce, a joke cryptid pokemon. So they gave the lamest evolution to the lamest pokemon. I wasn't even mad, that's genius XD

[@nicolasromani3523]

I mean...a bad Pokémon does not stop being a bad Pokémon just because it was on purpose. But yeah, Dunsparce and Dudunsparce are great examples of how a mon isn't good just because it's rare.

[@monster25man]

@@nicolasromani3523 pokemon competitive poisons the mindset of players Not every pokemon is meant to be viable, not every single 1000+ pokemon have to be GOOD in competitive There's pokemon meant to fill world with ecology and zoology. Not all pokemon are going to be competitive monsters, just animals to collect and enjoy You know, like a monster collection game

[@personalemail9329]

​@@monster25manThat's such a weak excuse, it's not even good in normal playthrough battles, you know the thing that you do literally when collecting the monster in this "monster collection" game, or literally any content in the game.

[@scrimblocoded]

I mean this is the youtuber who made a video like "buffing bad pokemon" where he just threw random thematically unfitting typings on mons to make them more "viable" I feel like comp players just don't really care about anything other than numbers

[@ralphbeez1411]

Sirfetch'd, a real evolution of another joke pokemon called farfetch'd says hello, so that excuse doesn't work.

[@annaangelic2318]

Most evolutions have failed to help Pokemon because mechanical changes are the ones that actually buff them. Tangrowth, Politoed, Slowking, Kingdra, and Scizor all reached OU status in gens after the gens they debuted in. Some OU Pokemon like Weavile, Gliscor, and Togekiss had to wait for buffs or limitations to the Pokedex to become truly dominant. Even Magnezone is slightly outclassed by Magneton in DPP OU. Kingambit, Roserade, Blissey, Annihilape, and Archaludon are more exceptional than we might realize.

[@slashermaster28]

What floors me about Dudunsparce is that this feels like a troll move. They knew people were asking for just some way to make this Pokemon worthwhile and reach its full potential for years, so they basically slapped together the most unimaginative design they could think of as a fancy way of saying "There, there's your evolution! Never ask us for this again!"

[@usuallyangry]

Seems to me that Game Freak has started actively giving the fanbase a middle finger any time they ask too obsessively for something. I wonder if they're going to make a Mega Flygon that's just normal Flygon but armless or something.

[@Avatarbee]

Fans: "OMG Dunsparce is finally getting a evolution!" Game Freak: "Best I can do is another 'Du'."

[@JumboSizedRichard]

Still waiting for “How Good Was Amoonguss Actually…” It’s been a full year since I began asking for this.

[@777guy1]

He's already made this video 4 years ago

[@JumboSizedRichard]

@@777guy1 no he hasn’t.

[@eChaka]

@@777guy1if you took the time to check he actually hasn’t made one which also surprised me

[@skeetermania3202]

@@JumboSizedRichard Probably another movie-length video with all the VGC to be covered.

[@JumboSizedRichard]

@@skeetermania3202 oh absolutely, and that’s not even if they decide to include Brute Bonnet in there too.

[@ahmetfarukseker2005]

At least, Kingambit and Annihilape show us that they can still get cross evolution right if they want by giving the evo significant advantages.

[@brenoborba5433]

Wyrdeer should be Just a physical attacker to invest more in bulk or speed than being a mixed attacker

[@bigquag]

Not every mon has to be ou viable smh

[@josephbulkin9222]

I like to think so too, but to this fanbase,if it ain't fit for competitive, it's a waste of effort Sincerely, Heracross's biggest fan

[@135forte]

Never understood why people thought Dunsparce would become a Dragon.

[@phyllotaxis]

If anything Fairy would've made more sense as a cryptid.

[@reun1clus]

Video idea: best glow ups. We have videos for rises in the same generation but not for the next generation. Such as Ribombee rising all the way from PU to OU(for a long long time)

[@KFLawless1412]

The Mr. Rhyme section was way too hard to understand lmao the two mon's names sound so similar

[@victinistar8968]

Dudunsparce is the biggest disappointment among all the new evolutions from all the Generations, from gen 2 to 9. And that's exactly why I love it. Dud is in the name!

[@sephikong8323]

"Are you Dudunsparce because you are a troll or are you a troll because you are Dudunsparce ?"

[@strangechimera9538]

Had me in the first half ngl, I love the silly fella too

[@nathanblumprazeres3617]

you know, you are the most honest "dus+" fan in this comment section. While we disagree with our conclusions I do commend your honesty, well done

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Tbh I still dont get people whinning about Dudunsparse. Like, why did you you expected a generic dragon from a pokemon based on a yokai whose lore is being useless despites its rarity and a parody of post game dungeon rewards?? Hell, is even another parody of how a lot of gen 1 and 2 pokemon just got bigger when they evolved (say Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Muk, Electrode, etc) The pokemon fanbase can be dissapointing sometimes. First the white house thing now this

[@Connowot387]

White house thing?

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

​@@Connowot387in essense, the pokemon fandom made on official petition to the white house (as in, the presidential one) to ban Sword and Shield.....over a tree. Literally a tree and also the stupid "I cant abandon my pokemon in a new regiom box" dexit thing That alongside the harrasment and even a false r4pe accusation Masuda got (and allegetly, death threats as well) makes people not take the pokemon fandom too seriously (if the elitism the gen 4 fanboys didnt hurt enought)

[@martytu20]

If they’re consistent, they’ll say that the Tsuchinoko is a lame myth anyways.

[@foul_ball7025]

Massive Dundunsparce fan here, I don’t think it’s design is as deep as some people seem to think, to me it’s like Masuda said “why mess with perfection?” And I love it for that

[@flyingoctopus4304]

I don't know anything about pokémon and a white house thing, I just wish they did something funnier with Dudunsparce then one or two extra segments. To me it's like someone telling the same joke over again at all the parties they go to; the first time it's hilarious, the second time it's still funny, the third time you kinda chuckle but everytime after that the joke kinda wears out it's welcome. Everytime I see a Dudunsparce now I just go 'Yeah I get the joke' and don't feel much for it anymore.

[@BlazingCyberKnight95]

I feel like we are going to get a part 2 covering more evolutions.

[@goGothitaLOL]

like Cursola

[@DaikoruArtwin]

Dusclops being able to use Eviolite interested me at first, since it would give it pretty much the same level of bulk as Shuckle. But when I tried it, it ended up just being too passive, and the omnipresence of Knock Off made that Eviolite buff almost useless as well.

[@roberte.o.speedwagon6043]

In the case of Dudunsparce, it is actually phenomenal in Generation 1! (I help manage a small format called Generation Jumble, created by GroundBack) Due to its access to Amnesia, Dudun is basically Snorlax without Self Destruct. This means its Physical set isn't as good, but its Special set is so damn powerful. Blizzard Thunderbolt Amnesia Rest/Body Slam It was very hard to stop, but not over bearing.

[@Raisera]

So what you are saying is, basically, that Dudunsparce is strong in the context of an obscure fan-made fantasy format. Uhm. Uh. Thanks for the trivia, appreciate it.

[@PokeMasrerJ]

A gen NINE Pokémon is good in a Gen ONE format? Am I reading that correctly ?

[@roberte.o.speedwagon6043]

@@Raisera you do realise 99% of Showdowns Metas (the bits that aren't VGC) are entirely fan made...right?

[@roberte.o.speedwagon6043]

@@PokeMasrerJ you would be surprised, Generation 1 is so fundamentally different (we restrict their Movepools to basically just Gen1 moves), that a lot of new Pokémon can be actually really bad.

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

​@@Raiserasir, a lot of the "official" formats are fan made fantasy formats Last I checked, there is no sleep clause nor baton pass ban in official console singles😂

[@benjaminschmitt1562]

Dudunsparce feels so incredibly fitting and hilarious for Dunsparce, but I feel like it would have worked better in any generation besides Scarlet and Violet

[@samuell8721]

Electivire can be a decent evolution if they just give him what a physical electric type wants Additional typing, good movepool, and mostly, a great physical STAB Move I always thinks that they should increase the base power of Volt Tackle to 140 giving that only the Pikachu line can get it, and create a new 120BP recoil move

[@jjmississippi8125]

If Dusclops and Dusknoir had the same base HP as their defense stats, then we’d be talking

[@smugsneasel]

So Dusknoir is obviously gonna be here on the list but how dare you insult Dudunsparce, the ultimate life form!?

[@StrongestBoss-ng1cb]

dudunsparce is by far the funniest way they could have given dunsparce an evolution but also i'm eternally sad they didn't name dunsparce's long awaited evolution abundunse

[@dunsparcetv9036]

I was quite exited when I heard my favorite Pokémon got an evolution. Unfortunately I was kinda disappointed, but at least there is one now. (I still love it though) I’d originally imagine that it would put more focus on the ground snake aspect or the dragon aspect, but they just added more segments. But thankfully there still can be another evolution.

[@rubenrodriguezalvarez12]

I wish they give him a mega in Pokemon leyends z-a

[@ddgnp1057]

Galarian Corsola and Cursola would have been a far better Gen 8 rep than Mr Rime. Despite titanic special attack Cursola was considered horrible, but I vaguely recall G Corsola being a very popular Eviolite user for much of Gen 8 to the point it might have been OU for a while.

[@jessehutchings]

We need to petition Game Freak to give us a real Dunsparce evolution. We have wanted this for over 20 freaking years

[@lmaobox4068]

Dudunsparce fans have gotten the evolution they wanted Non dudunsparce fans will be left empty-handed

[@goldenboy1465]

This is a real evolution, dunsparce changed so I don’t see the problem

[@shadowdragun]

People asking for a dragon dudunsparce have no idea what they are talking about

[@Zac_Frost]

Easy fixes here: Dusknoir: bump HP up to 80 and give it Regenerator for a Hidden Ability on Gen 5 onward. Wyrdeer: Drop Speed more. It'd be pretty decent in Trick Room that way. Electivire: Why did they drop it's Speed? Leave it at 105, then actually buff the Elemental Punches to maybe 90-95 power. Basically make them physical counterparts to T-Bolt, Ice Beam and Flamethrower. Then it'd actually be pretty excellent. Farigiraf: I can't think of anything, honestly. My only idea would be copying Wyrdeer lol. Dudunsparce: Give it more Serene Grace moves, and maybe shift some SpAtk into bulk. Mr. Rime: I'm at another loss. The stats mixed with the typing don't really give it a great chance to even think of being that great to begin with.

[@captvalstrax]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1055">17:35</a> Anyone who thought a Dunsparce Evo would be a super cool Dragon, does not know what Dunsparce is based on. Dudunsparce is exactly what it should be.

[@thenoisemaker8335]

how dare someones disrespects the lord dudunsparce

[@kokorikopi]

I cant believe anyone wanted Dunsparce to be "cool", that'd be unfathomably lame.

[@Treadondeez]

You’re evolution is just as lame too

[@tktyga77]

Sneasler had avenged Weavile well in the meantime till the fleet toolkits of the latter came back

[@SACREDSCIZOR9116]

I have never seen mr rime used in a competitive battle ever

[@howlingarmadillo]

Dudunsparce is a perfect being because it is just there to troll fans. Dunsparce was never meant to evolve, it's a perfect representation of the mythical creature it was based on. But people kept going on and on about dunsparce becoming some great mystical being after evolving, despite that idea completely missing the point of dunsparce. So Gamefreak took dunsparce and just doubled everything. Extra body segment, extra wings, extra drill, even an extra line on the eyes. You want an evolution, there's your evolution! Dudunsparce isn't a bad evolution, it's an act of protest, and I love it for that. Best new evolution they ever made.

[@blueyandicy]

You're just kinda sucking GF off for making a very lazy uninspired pokemon. Farfetch'd was a joke pokemon too, yet he got an actual evolution.

[@yabbadabbindude]

🤓

[@jasonthejazzman8521]

I loved DuDunsparce because it is the logical conclusion to Dunsparce’s absurdism

[@PatSmashYT]

Meanwhile I haven't played Pokemon in so long that I had no idea who half these new Pokemon even are