The World Over November 2, 2023 | SYNODALITY & GOVERNANCE: Cardinal Gerhard Müller w/ Raymond Arroyo

[@phoebedigs1356]

They are very bold to think they can change the Church Jesus established. God Will Not Be Mocked. Prayers for Cardinal Muller.

[@josephmaxwell5033]

Thank God for the guidance of a Faithful and Holy Catholic Cardinal detailing the Deposit of Faith, denouncing the secular in Charity.

[@day1678]

Love the Blessed Mother! Never, ever let go of her guiding hand that will lead us to Jesus.Pray as never before - especially the Rosary (daily) for her intentions. Live in the Will of her Son, Jesus.

[@brendanbutler1238]

Francis, please resign and make Cardinal Muller our new Pope.

[@steinfonell4915]

Arroyo Müller is an excellent mix. Time to call the Holy Ghost a Holy Ghost and let the spirit become the others. Listen to the spirit may be a bad spirit, not the Holy Ghost.

[@andrewklados4096]

Holy Spirt

[@athanenwere4533]

This is my own POPE. God be with you Cardinal Muller and other Holy Spirit filled Cardinals, Bishops and Priests to continue to speak the truth, remain faithful in the teaching of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. jorge bergoglio FAKE Francis is NOT my pope

[@helencorpuz2852]

Oh Most Precious Blood of Jesus Christ , save us & the whole world ! Jesus I trust in you !

[@canden-t7w]

✝ Cardinal Gerhard Muller seems to be a smart,holy and Godly man. Also he is one the greatest theologian plus he was the head of the CDF for 5 years and he is a fine and oustanding top Roman Catholic bishop !.

[@alphacharlietango969]

Were the laity in attendance Catholics in grace?

[@briandelaney9710]

😂😂😂. Only God knows something like that !!!

[@phoebedigs1356]

We’re they even catholic?

[@josephmaxwell5033]

The laity is a general reference to the faithful of the Catholic Church. Only God knows the standing of anyone’s heart and soul. The reality is that at this Synod it was not necessary to be Catholic or even Christian to attend and apparently to vote, which is congregational (Anglican as an example) and it’s not Catholic. The requirements are specifically detailed in the Council of Vatican II for guidance to the Church, in the substance of a actual Council of the Catholic Church. God will not be mocked!

[@Bookworm0714]

If you note the manner in which the Synod was organised, it is very clear that the outcome was rigged from the word 'GO'. The idea of setting up tables is a sure-fire way of containing dissent, amongst the Bishops, to the changes that are intended to be incorporated in the Doctrine of the Church. The idea of getting the laity into the Synod is also to smother the dissension of the Bishops. People are supposed to follow Religion. The idea behind this Synod is to modify Religion to suit the wants of the top echelons of the Vatican and the self-professed expert laity. But then, it took a Judas Iscariot to show all doubting Toms that Jesus is the Son of God and to teach us the true way of life. In all probability we will be lucky to see God working His Hand to stop this mockery.

[@josephmaxwell5033]

The laity is a general reference made as the faithful of the Catholic Christian Church. Only God knows the standing of anyone’s heart and soul. The reality is that at this Synod it was not necessary to be Catholic or even Christian to attend and apparently to vote, which is congregational (Anglican, as an example) and it’s not Catholic. The requirements are specifically detailed in the Council of Vatican II for guidance to the Church, in the substance of a actual Council of the Catholic Church. The decrees of an ecumenical council do not have obligatory force unless they have been approved by the Pope and promulgated at his order. Participants. "All the bishops and only the bishops who are members of the college of bishops have the right and duty to take part in an ecumenical council with a deliberative vote" ... Reference: Catholic ecumenical councils - Wikipedia God will not be mocked!

[@redginge4840]

How could we arrive at a point where a cardinal is being forced to publicly correct another cardinal on basic catholic ecclesiology? Crisis is not the word.

[@pl8154]

The time for a total rejection of VII is long over due.

[@harrietl2869]

Where would the Vatican be without the lay people

[@juliaarcher-ashenden5159]

Yes they never called it the Holy Spirit…. Just the Spirit.

[@ludix747]

Nice German accent 😊

[@garylawson5381]

I may have missed something. Not once have I heard the "spirit" referred to as the Holy Spirit in every proclamation from the Synod.

[@piita1971]

It's all about destroying priesthood. Listening is the job of a psycologist, not of a priest and bishop: govern, teach and santify!!

[@francisgruber3638]

Cardinal Muller may be inwardly vexed by the irresponsible theological speculations that churn the waters under the barque of Peter. But his discipline of language, law, faith and reason make him a plausible voice of Christ to quiet the storm.

[@jakebuniao5267]

I am.just wondering if these two unferstand each other"s questions and answers. It seems to me that they are not aligned.

[@soniafell8267]

God dose not make mistakes when he sent you down as a boy you are not a girl.

[@gloriacheon5952]

He doesn't answered your questions. What the other Bishop says does not reflect Cardinal Mullers statements.

[@gloriacheon5952]

What are the "new understandings"? He did not answer the question. He only gives his point of view.

[@stephanelarochelle2484]

Wow, the amount of sedevacantist comments is surprising... we usually see this the traditional protestant discussions, not wannabe catholics who behave like protestants and don't understand catholic ecclesiology and may have missed Vatican I as an Ecumenical council.

[@brendanbutler1238]

What does Pope Francis find so difficult to understand about the word Apostolic ?

[@time4grace8]

Can they please discuss the approval of COREDEMPTRIX in the SYNOD? COREDEMPTRIX is REDEMPTIVE/DISCIPLINARIAN and NOT NECESSARILY to Redeem. Just like our HEAVENLY FATHER is REDEMPTIVE. EZEKIEL 33;13.

[@mikebolognese7134]

At this point in history, it appears that the Holy Father, from this layman’s observation, is no longer interested in maintaining a continuity in the teaching of the apostles or in previous pontificates. This saddens me to say this so plainly. Where are the voices of the Saints who died for the faith and why are they not being listen to? Pope Francis’s letter on of the Little Flower was a perfect example of how little theological depth is being presented to the universal church. There was nothing of real substance in the letter that extended beyond an average Carmelite’s knowledge. Any educated lay person could’ve written it. After the pontificate of Pope Saint John Paul, and Pope Benedict XVI, we’ve come to expect greater knowledge and understanding to be given to us. Why are we being fed baby food and theological double talk? This kind of presentation of the faith is embarrassing to anybody has anyone who had any kind of prayer life or love of the Eucharist.

[@conniemally8584]

READ THE COMMENTS !

[@juancarrillo2383]

Arroyo I hope you understood the true meaning of the Cardinal Muller’s report. I doubt you did though. But I do know you want to go your way and that of YOUR AFFILIATES, but hear him properly and apply it to your self proclaimed so called “conservative” crap between your ears. I guarantee you, your no traditionalist nor conservative but I guarantee you that your Pope whom you refer to as “liberal” is exactly where he needs to be as your Vicar.

[@rachelcampbell8541]

Was cultural revolution Mao?

[@denise-kc6lk]

No

[@user-jd7bw6xk1l]

Lay people should not be voting

[@seanogcon]

I’m catholic. If it’s not in the Bible I don’t believe it

[@time4grace8]

Please do NOT empower those people who do not read the BIBLE. The fate of the people cannot be given to careless immature street people unless what we are talking is about financially poor people or inmates. And the BISHOPS must show them the verses in the BIBLE of the laws of LORD GOD! HOSEA 6;6. JOHN 6;27. REVELATION 9;4. // LGBT cannot be accepted. LEVITICUS 18;22. Women Priests CANNOT be ACCEPTED. 1-TIMOTHY 2;12.