Ex-All Blacks brutally rank New Zealand's Rugby Championship Performance | The Breakdown

The Breakdown discusses the All Blacks' performance in the Rugby Championship, and the conversation delves into key issues and the ongoing debate about the best options for the fly-half position. #breakdown
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[@SummerSteps]

I’m going with Jeff’s opinion tonight. Great analysis, thank you all. Keep it going 🇿🇦

[@picturef8]

South Africa number 2 team in the world 😂😂😂 , " where South Africa finished " , these guys can't stand the fact the Springboks are so much better

[@SuperEdge67]

But they aren’t sooo much better. The Boks had the best draw this year. They played the ABs twice at home. The ABs could have won both games. They didn’t and SA are deserved champions……..but don’t exaggerate.

[@bakivaotuua9120]

All Blacks rebuilding, it won't be long before the Blacks return to the top of the world.

[@hunha991]

​@SuperEdge67 exactly South Africa didn't exactly smoke a rebuilding All Blacks team at home.

[@BobbyEckersley]

Catch a wake up Mister the Boks are where you are struggling to get to that apex😊

[@joedennehy386]

South Africa finished ranked 2. Its a fact son, grow up

[@camwells9726]

This show is very popular in South Africa judging by the comments , No one in nz watches it 😂

[@Rvt9292]

@@camwells9726 it’s hilarious 🤣 they all come here looking for validation

[@antoinecoffin1123]

Watched the South Africa game before watching All Blacks. SA opearating at a different level, innovations, synergy and SIZE. 😢

[@mikewebb1134]

It hurts so much that the boks are a better side ,they can't even mention their victory.

[@NathanStellenberg]

YEP, a real bunch of sore losers

[@JTAIT-b7g]

Imagine a NZ rugby show discussing NZ rugby? Try Eggchaser if in need of a glaze.

[@skibbitybopmdada]

@@JTAIT-b7gjust a bit of banter mate

[@cici2716]

​@@JTAIT-b7gthey've discussed every team in the Rugby Championship's performances every week. The week that South Africa win the TRC they don't discuss that game.

[@nateepp2410]

​@@cici2716 Do they have too?

[@rodwellchigome7567]

TBF, Mills said 9/15 start of the year. His explanation was the most balanced.

[@SMacCuUladh]

NZ have to play Ireland in Dublin in November, very tough game.

[@Camcolito]

Mills is the only rational person on this show.

[@johnstephen2869]

I think we’ve done very well considering the nzru and their stuff-up regarding the complete changes made with the coaching staff half way through the year. I think the players were disillusioned, and it’s a wonder they didn’t all go overseas to make money. It was only their love for the jersey that kept them here I think. We can only improve, and we will, and hopefully peak for the World cup. We are proud of our loyal players, it’s now up to ‘razer’ to earn their respect.

[@atoms-to-atoms]

I wish the comments were switched off...As a saffa..apologies for our guys who feel obligated to have their 5 cents worth of back patting...instead of just having a good listen to the nuances of this wonderful game..What JK or Goldie have to say thinks is absolutely intriguing and does not solicit another 1-eyed retort...fok! 🥵

[@Rvt9292]

@@atoms-to-atoms thank you. That’s the way most of our pundits are and always have been. It’s no disrespect to SA it’s just the way it is here when ABs are losing.

[@garrae6981]

Kiwi here, ABs appear to be Boks was in 1996, can’t believe their dominance is over. It will take many years to rectify

[@coatknight]

If they avoid where the Boks were in 2016 to 2017, they'll do great. I don't think it is as bad as some think. Top 5 is the most competitive it has ever been. South Africa had had its rugby house in order under Rassie. ABs lost a lot of experience and are not yet picking overseas players. Watered down Super Rugby has also affected developing players. All things considered, ABs are still doing well.

[@JohnWilliams_SA]

Playing Australia doesn’t really help New Zealand rugby right now, but the emotional and cultural significance of these matches keeps the rivalry alive and relevant. - That's about it! I am sorry. The Northern hemisphere will bring this panel back to reality of where NZ rugby is currently.

[@JohnWilliams_SA]

@@TheOyster-w2x lol is it not obvious?

[@thefobbie0034]

@@JohnWilliams_SA I tend to agree with you - ABs are playing Super rugby at test level and its failing!!!!

[@axxey]

I'm back to where i was before this years internationals started. Waiting to see with very little confidence. Razor picked conservative then played even more conservative. The young players should have been blooded after Razor won the first England game(his first) and couldn't lose the series. Instead a they got played against Fiji under zero pressure and nothing else(not even used when on the bench) until injuries forced him to try Walace Sititi.

[@maumentum]

Will Jordan outstanding

[@johannesspies]

What do you mean with balance? It was said so many times in various contexts.

[@kalabmurphy2112]

South Africa we're on home soil with their wins could have been different if they had come over here, they don't travel well? Food for thought.

[@chrisg667-1]

As a saffa, completely agree. Anyone with any notion of "boks are way ahead" are smoking their socks. All blacks are closer than we'd like to admit. And we write NZ off at our own peril. SA have no right to be arrogant, like Rassie said. But we're mostly low IQ high emotion tribalistic fans that love a beer and a braai and an escape from our shitty 3rd world economy, we cant help ourselves from loooooving getting one or two over the old foe. But dont be fooled, the AB's are always, ALWAYS lurking

[@cathydanieletto7726]

Both excellent comments I must say! Nice to read something honest and intelligent.

[@JohnWilliams_SA]

@@chrisg667-1 we have not denied the fact that the AB is a dangerous team BUT i feel SA can beat them again on home soil currently. They said we were predictable with our rugby back then, i think they are the predictable team now. The running game is exciting, damn i love it! But the rest of the world has been catching up. PS: winning and standing with a chop & dop in one hand!!! Amazing

[@Rvt9292]

This is an NZ rugby show - If South African’s want to hear a panel talk about the Boks then they should start their own show.

[@Rvt9292]

@@TheOyster-w2x ?

[@llewelynbonnelle122]

Oops! Where you feeling it ... 😢 😅😅😅

[@TheTherealbadboy]

We have plenty of shows…. And they aren’t salty..

[@martindekock4719]

Yes even SA shows mutch beter and very big variety of non biast don't be nasty ,I know you are hurt,whee know how it feels.

[@Rvt9292]

@@TheOyster-w2x haha I’m not bitter at all. ​​⁠ There’s 100s of comments from Bok fans on this video crying about how they don’t get a mention on an NZ rugby show. Insecure much.

[@simontaylor2525]

Wilson remind me a lot of Matt Williams.Inonation, cadence, gestures.

[@francoisdutoit6206]

NZ Rugby drove SA our of Super Rugby through pure arrogance, you reap what you sow, baby boys.

[@thefobbie0034]

With all respect BUT in 2016 the SARU put the KIngs into the pro 14 season! The following season they put the Cheetahs into the URC for the 2017-2018 northern hemisphere season! The SARU had already 1 foot out the back door from SANZAR because of the most lucrative tv deal with the FFR! Since then the SARU has never looked back and to simply blame the NZR when the SARU had already 2 of their teams in Northern Hemisphere rugby is a lie! I don't blame the SARU in what they did - its business and they did the right move BUT the SARU had made it quite clear back in 2015 their interest of playing in the Northern Hemisphere season because it was the right financial move! STOP LYING!!!!

[@myshepspud1]

I like NZ but having read alot of articles at the time- so true though. We were like the annoying "dirty" then "boring" "too much kicking" 3rd wheel little brother to the NZ Australian back dominance, exciting rugby. ;)

[@starmersbarber]

I'm listening this carefully from Scotland. It seems that so many Kiwis find it hard to accept that sometimes the Boks are just better than the ABs. I feel that I at least can see the wood for the trees.

[@benmbanze3655]

Goldie is quite sobering on his assessment in this segment

[@warlockbaussteward2547]

As a South African, the rest of the world doesn't know what is really happening between South Africa and New Zeeland. We play rugby against the whole world, but when we meet each other, ists almost not about rugby anymore. We go to war. If you lose, you're dead. It feels like dying if you lose, because you lost a war. i know New Zeeland people feel exactly like me and its been ongoing for generations. And for some stupid reason, we LOVE to go to war. At the moment, i feel the All blacks play against themselves. But i will never right off an All Black, ever.

[@BobbyEckersley]

All this rubbish about 1st ,2nd and third is all about an elusion, who are the champs of the world?

[@squidandchips]

The ones that lost to Ireland and Argentina. Awesome SA team though.. the depth is fantastic! They should be leading the rest for years to come.

[@Jay685toa]

Considering we couldn’t pick overseas players and losing a lot of experience (Whitelock,Retallick,Coles) we’re not doing to bad, basically in the process of blooding new players Razor is happy with his stocks

[@Gharki]

Wilson is the realist. This AB team is below the standards of the great teams in the recent past. They have a lot of work to do.

[@russellcroghan8956]

I think there is a lot of wishful thinking. NZ is going to get a big shock this autumn series. They are very mediocre, compared to the old ABs

[@JohnSylvanus-zu6jq]

They will soon miss foster😅

[@Socks-q9b]

Having just watched the last series of Ted Lasso and how he danced at the end of the game… it convinced me that Razor is so much like him for all sorts of reasons! I just hope Razor comes good because for me, our performance was poor against a poor Aussie side and for Razor to say anything different is to accept lower standards of play. Just don’t see Fossie liking what he sees! Anyway jury still out on Razor!

[@tonygee3284]

ABs are way down the winners list for me possibly 4th in the world TJ needs to go now

[@duncangravy6060]

My advice to everyone is to STOP watching these chaps.....excepts for Mils.....there is fundamentally a frailty with their obvious bias......INSTEAD......go and watch the Atearoa Sky Sport NZ pod with Brynie Hall and Jimmy Parson.....proper pundits proper analysis and all round fantastic blokes.

[@Lourens551]

Wilson needs to stop hanging around Kirwan, he is captain grumpy now

[@cici2716]

💯

[@SMacCuUladh]

Byrn Hall has the personality of a pencil sharpener.

[@cici2716]

@@SMacCuUladh noooooo, I love him!!!!

[@SMacCuUladh]

@@cici2716 He makes good points but it's like he's doing an impression of a robot.

[@RaymondTusa]

I think it won't happen cos super 15 coaches are not made for international rugby. Jeff Wilson is real.

[@johngraham5948]

I don't think "Brutal"comments would be the word

[@pleaseandthankyou4161]

The AB’s will bounce back but with how the game changed we’re unlikely to see a single dominating rugby team again.

[@johanjohnleach8504]

Boks are and will be a single dominant team from now and including the next World Cup in 2027

[@brendandaly8164]

@@johanjohnleach8504how come they are ranked no 2 then

[@JTAIT-b7g]

@@johanjohnleach8504 Yet cant beat Ireland..OP is right, its unlikely any team will ever dominate to the degree the AB's did in the past.

[@Camcolito]

"If we go through the rest of the year undefeated" - Dude you have to play England, France, and Ireland away from home

[@GaryPhillips-k5h]

NZ could lose all games in the Northern Hemisphere......

[@bertgoat]

they could but they wont

[@TheOyster-w2x]

@@bertgoat Expect a loss from France and Ireland

[@bertgoat]

@@TheOyster-w2x you are not a psychic so I reject your prognostication

[@nepiahemopo1702]

​@@bertgoatGood man!

[@GysbertDewet]

NZ will beat Ireland and Argentina will beat Ireland.

[@industrysyndrome]

This show sounds like the "emotional Breakdown". Where JK? I miss him seething and coping😂😂😂 Anyway... I love me some Kiwi rugby. The pundits tho. I watch and laugh😢😢😢😅😅😂

[@José-j9y3b]

Island mentality... All said...

[@Mr-Litch]

These losers...

[@gj7392]

The lack of creativity with these guys is pretty astounding. Wallabies and NZ both off and surprise surprise both play in quite a shoddy comp in super rugby. And the two best teams in the world are playing against each other regularly in the URC. Need to start the season in line with Europe and try to get the teams more exposure to the higher standard in Europe at club level.

[@donski8687]

Where's JK

[@supersox31]

The South African rugby team

[@haydenwillemse1066]

Jeff makes as if the all blacks has always demolished each and every team the came up against geez,what is he on

[@andrewharris1837]

Strange it took Razor so long to out Beauden back at 10 but think Ireland and France will beat them😅

[@axxey]

Dunno why Beaudan gets such praise playing 10 under the least pressure of any game in the entire rugby championship. Beaudan has always been great off the bench as well, playing your replacement 10 at 15 the whole game tiring them out means they're never going to make any impact like they can off the bench. Having a 1 dimensional single position winger on the bench is a rediculous waste, just like Razor wasted his reserves the entire rugby championship.

[@jerryb6323]

Abs will loose 5 games this year this is now the new norm....it's great for the game rugby more teams getting better....but Boks on top of the world....I fear the French more than the Irish at the end of tour for the Abs...

[@Alias-gy3tz]

The All Blacks will lose against both teams, mark my words.

[@Munstermarty]

​@Alias-gy3tz never write the AB's off, looking forward to seeing AB in thomond park, it won't be the 1st team of course.

[@rogue1rogue187]

Eden Park is Gonna have black and white blood

[@thegoat4124]

I must confess this whole narrative that the ABs are rebuilding and the Boks arent is the biggest coping mechanism i have seen in a while from some rival fans and pundits and factually incorrect🙂 Boks are the most rotated team in the rugby championship, and also had a new defense and attack coach, transitioning the Boks style of a play which you could see had some teething issues. Also lets not forget AB fans had also never heard of Ben Jason Dixon, Sasha Fienburg, Elrich Louw, Ruan Nortje, Gerhard Steenekamp, Fassie etc before they lost to the Boks this year 🙂 All that and Boks still won it pretty convincingly 👌🏻🙂🏆

[@Rvt9292]

ABs have completely new coaching staff and lost a lot of senior players from the WC who they can’t pick because of eligibility laws in NZ - Aaron Smith, Brodie Retellic, Richie Mo’Unga etc so in that sense they are rebuilding. Hope that helps

[@thegoat4124]

@@Rvt9292 its not a completely new coaching squad. For instance Jason Ryan was there with Fozzy and is still there. Boks dont have Faf, Kitshoff, Mostert and Duane Vermuelan either, who started in the world cup final and are pretty key players too from the Boks. So again, it's a false narrative, hope that makes sense🙂

[@Rvt9292]

@@thegoat4124 it’s not a false narrative - they are rebuilding just like SA did when Rassie took over. And the difference is SA could pick all those players if they were good enough. Nobody is denying that SA are the better team right now - is that what you want to hear lol? Hope that gives you a little serotonin boost to get through your week 😂

[@thegoat4124]

@@Rvt9292 not at all, I am just try to show that both teams are transitioning and the narrative is the Boks arent and the ABs are, which is really a coping mechanism if we are being honest whether you deny it or not😃 this isn't hard i promise mate 🌹🤣👌🏻

[@Rvt9292]

⁠@@thegoat4124 it’s not a coping mechanism though its just a fact haha. I don’t get your point or what you expect these commentators to say?

[@joedennehy386]

Aussies played well, we finished ok, Alb made a big difference. We need to address the our midfield. Dmac out of position, Jordie, and Rico out of position, even will Jordan at 14 is out of position. Midfield and distribution is key. Jordie isca grest player, but is not a centres bum, nor is Rico

[@Camcolito]

I don't think Savea is captain material. Great player, but.

[@revenant2979]

Is JK been taken up into an institution in a strate jacket?😂😂...Mills one of the best plqyers and gentleman of the field, really the realistick and very practical pundent. Now we go to the end of year tours and always be to the end our Southern Hemesphere 🇦🇷🏉🇳🇿🏉🇿🇦🏉🇦🇺🏉 An Awsome competition 24 🇳🇿🏉🤝🇿🇦🏉

[@MegaTkls]

Where’s JK these days? Sick of being wrong?

[@tokkievandermerwe]

The reason why SA is better than NZ at the moment, is couching. When previously we lost 57-0, the reason was the same: couching. NZ has a great rugby team. But the truth is that other teams have caught up and overtaken them. Namely, SA, France and Ireland.

[@upper10101]

couching 😅

[@DavidJackson-oe9vs]

Caleb Clarke has to play at 12

[@francoisdutoit6206]

Love the cringe 😂

[@charlesmaisel2935]

Your centres are your biggest problem. Reiko is a wing. Very weak midfield

[@PetersAdventures212]

My God these 3 are so boring

[@nepiahemopo1702]

You are such a twot.

[@pdewaal100]

Some serious head in the sand stuff going on here.

[@puakeriwinterburn]

All Blacks best 15 if everyone was available 1 tamaiti 2 Taylor 3 lomax 4 vaai 5 S Barrett 6 frizell 7 savea 8 satiti 9 roigard 10 mounga 11 Clarke 12 J Barrett 13 lienert brown 14 fainnga anuku 15 Jordan

[@thefobbie0034]

Yeah pretty close but In would have either the following 1) Either Ioane, Finau or Suafoi at 6 2) Rieko Ioane at centre!

[@Rmc_______01]

Can we rank their analysis performance? Worst panel in sport

[@abeaslan7603]

My breakdown.. by this time next year razor won’t have any hair left to hide his already dodgy hairline snd will go back to crusaders

[@claireforbes1808]

Saffa here. Their C and B ratings for the All Blacks are crazy. World class players and you want to give them a C?!? Savea, the Baretts, Jordan, Sititi, Clark, Lomax. You need to have your head read mate. Seriously. Get some help.

[@JMz685]

For their performance in the rugby championship I think C is a fair rating. Yes we got the talent but as a team something isn’t clicking. For how high the standards are for the All Blacks, losing 3 games in the Rugby Championship is disappointing. Especially losing one of those games at home.

[@brendandaly8164]

@@JMz685e+ when they lose the 3 NH tests

[@claireforbes1808]

@@JMz685 You Kiwi’s are harsh man. Jeesh. They are a A+ team in my eyes. Unbelievable in their attack and ruthless in their defence. Good luck to the NH. They are going to get smashed.

[@JMz685]

⁠@@claireforbes1808 nah you’re right lol. We are pretty harsh on the ABs maybe too harsh now that I think about it. 😂🤝

[@claireforbes1808]

@@JMz685 Yes you are. Springboks lost two games this year. The ABs lost three games. Really small margins. You guys need to relax. 😂

[@NathanStellenberg]

Lets rate the Breakdown for this episode - F (FAIL)

[@nmn9166]

🇮🇪☝️🤫

[@karatekid-nq6ct]

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