ex-best friend stabbed in neck when she runs into old friend at the smoke shop | Bryanna Barozzini

[@skyegroome223]

She kept backing away all the while halia kept advancing and eventually assaulting her. To me, from what I saw, self-defense seems extremely plausible. This is why you don't get into fights over stupid stuff, it's not worth it. Shame on the brother for encouraging it instead of trying to stop it. I'd be ashamed if I were the parents at both of my children's behavior.

[@gloomysunday9836]

my ONLY qualm is that she went straight to a weapon [from what we saw there may have been othr fist-fights before this that we arent privvy to] even the text messages talk about her showing up at briannas home and instigating conflict.

[@yogijager]

Self defense? From what? A fight? Nope, that doesn’t fly. You don’t use a deadly weapon against some slaps ffs

[@ShroudedSun]

​@yogijager If someone comes at you aggressively on the street and is actively trying to hurt you, it is completely within your right to defend yourself with whatever you have. I feel for Halia and her family, but would you feel bad for someone who broke into a house and got shot even though they didn't want to fight? You actively chose to put yourself into a dangerous situation and met the consequences of that and the brother is no better for pushing her futher into it. Fights like this can be extremely unpredictable and are not to be taken lightly no matter who is actually fighting.

[@Cecil1213]

Nah going straight to a weapon literally is weird. She killed her over a fist fight over drama she started and has also previously made the threat to stab her. wtf is wrong with you people.

[@taylorp6643]

@Cecil1213 she didn't threaten to stab her for no reason. Bryanna says if Halia doesn't stop trying to assault her she would use the knife. Halia wasn't mentally handicapped, so how many times should she have been warned and how many time did Bryanna have to defend herself before enough is enough? You couldn't even read a couple comments before jumping to a defense so I doubt you're the pinnacle of diplomacy you claim to be lol

[@larisusa]

Sorry but Halia's family should be taking the time to reflect on how they raised not just their daughter but their son. That is definitely a reflection on their home life.

[@violetk8025]

I would never say that to a family that has lost a child in such a horrific way. You have no empathy for other people . Also what about Brianna repeatedly commenting on “ how she would stab that Bitc” ? What would you say about how her parents raised her .

[@laurynholling2309]

I hate thinking that way, but I’ve known girls like halia. Just aggressive over what they feel is right. And I’ve known them to have brothers like halias and brothers who protect their sisters. The ones with brothers like hers are now in jail. The one with protective brothers were always having to come get their sister to stop them acting foolish. Those girls, have grown into amazing women.

[@larisusa]

@@laurynholling2309 As a teacher, I see teenagers that act like this too as well as brothers similar. And I'm always rooting for them to seek help, find better ways to let out their aggression and I haven't met a single student that was like that just because. It was always a reflection on the home life. Kids aren't just born super aggressive and thinking it's ok to antagonize. They learned it from somewhere. I feel bad for both sides because these girls could of been saved if they were in better home life situations and learned proper social-emotional skills

[@laurynholling2309]

@@larisusa I can agree with you. That was well said

[@charlottet7379]

4 things (and sorry for the long winded comment 😐) 1. the brother thought it a fantastic idea to film his sister ASSAULTING another girl (honestly she looked like a good wind would blow her away - also why the brother probably thought his sister would easily pummel her.. or worse: hospitalize her) 2. Teenagers TALK. They gossip and will promise to keep quiet, just to turn right to the hated foe and tell her EVERYTHING = Bryanna probably figured if she threatened someone WHO SHOWED UP AT HER FAMILY’S HOUSE, that the gossip would get around to A. and discourage her and finally leave her (AND her family) alone. 3. And again, B. did NOT look like she could sock a person to the floor like A. showed she was willing to do “for loving and protecting her friends”🙄 (that’s honestly just a nice way of saying “she have been aggressive on multiple occasions, over something as simple as trash talking her friends” 🤦‍♀️) 4. When she finally swung the knife (AFTER seeing former friend ramping up assault) she (I imagine) having seen her former friend in multiple scenarios of fighting, figured she would dodge or at least only get a scratch. I imagine when the knife chomped into body, B. was completely shocked and remorseful (remember, she didn’t hesitate to say she did it when police came) with a friend wanting to get her out of there as soon as the brother attended his sister, rather than antagonizing them and threaten them with violence. So let’s sum up: Aggressive former friend. No way of self defense like former friend has. Friend’s brother who also threatens with violence (since he found this fun to film and antagonize them, he had to be bigger/stronger than her friend (and definitely her!)) so even bigger threat. If she lashes out with the knife, perhaps then she will finally realize from the gossip (that most likely got around, since they also knew of what the other had said about them to others!!) that she could be in danger, despite her stronger advantage and finally drop it! (that’s what years of high school and college taught me from the most weak girls making these threats towards their “gross stalkers” (other students who look at them with lust, so they will think twice before doing something to them - yes, that was a real fear, unfortunately 😖)

[@PrinnyLord]

What disgusts me the most is the brother recording and egging on his sister to assault someone. But then that also tends to lean into blaming the assailant/victims family life to produce two negatives, the sister being agressive and the brother being an instigator for the aggression. Had either one of them been positive force they wouldve kept the other in check and it shouldnt have gotten that far without another instigator.

[@hakone1841]

yeah wasnt cool of him but i dont personally think its that deep, young and acting tough it is what it is

[@charliedeegan1598]

​@hakone1841 and it got her killed. Its stupid to act like that. Its not worth losing your life over a petty friendship.

[@hakone1841]

@@charliedeegan1598 yeah and i agree nothing in my comment hinted at anything else

[@_chiffon]

Even though Bryanna did send those messages, it looked like she gave Halia enough time to stop and rethink what she was doing by continuing to back away from Halia when they were arguing in the parking lot. But even then, Halia still kept yelling at her. I do think that stabbing Halia in the neck was too far, but in the end it was self defense.

[@fallenbee]

Imo I don't think those messages prove that she was planning to do this. It clearly says in those.messages that she would only do that if Halia were to attack her. It's not like she was saying "I'm going to kill her at this time at this place" but I don't know maybe I'm wrong haha

[@barbiedoll44]

how is it self defence if she said in text messages prior that she intends on actually stabbing her ?

[@fallenbee]

@@barbiedoll44 she didn't really say she planned to stab her. Just that if Halia attacked her, she would do that to protect herself. Not saying Bryanna is totally innocent but Halia isn't innocent either so 🤷

[@AllycatCommentary]

Did she even mean to hit the neck? Or did she just swing and it hit there by accident? Neither of these girls were trained fighters, this wasn't a case of two trained killers trying to hurt each other. sounds like Bryanna just accidently hit her neck and it went downhill from there

[@leighlasley4746]

@@barbiedoll44If someone were threatening to attack you would you not message your support system saying you would defend yourself against them if they did so?

[@beanybabyrabie]

My mother just got out of prison for voluntary manslaughter. 5.5 years… People showed up (3, including a man) while she was alone with my 4 year old disabled brother (my mother is also chronically ill and disabled) to jump her, family of her husband, and she shot and killed the one that took off running towards her. They then were breaking in with bricks. Three people tried to jump my mom and she was charged. Sometimes it’s just technicalities…. If she’d waited until they broke in to get her she wouldn’t have been charged. She stepped on the porch because she wasn’t going to let them get inside with my brother….

[@scrimblo5845]

Wow that is actually restarted

[@HarryDirtay]

Juries are demented when it comes to self defense. They honestly think you can bargain your way out of anything.

[@nyphira]

Thats messed up. I hope you and your family are well❤ Shooting someone in such a situation is traumatizing on its own. Then getting incarcerated too… not what she needed.

[@KT-gl1fi]

This is also a different situation because halia (the obvious one in the wrong) really kept coming after brianna and shoving her and stuff. So her boundaries were already violated so it's totally different. BTW I am so sorry that happened to your mom. I really HATE that law. it's dumb and makes no sense.

[@marinaSassygUrl88]

What a horrible situation. On top of experiencing something so traumatic like that, going to prison for protecting yourself and your child is so effed up. Something needs to change with the laws that are willing to protect these criminals' lives more than protecting the safety of the victims.

[@sugasweet435]

They pointed out the text messages, but didn’t one of them say that she’d stab her “if she shows up at my house again”? That’s a pretty important part to just leave out, she wasn’t hunting the girl down or nothing. I would’ve taken the plea deal too if I was in that situation

[@kas_ualties7692]

YES!! I think there needs to be more emphasis on the stalking. Halia was not leaving her alone, waiting for her to come out the smoke shop, showing up where she LIVES. If I was Briana, I’d be terrified and justifiably carrying a pocketknife too. I don’t think it’s premeditated at all, I think her messages of ‘I’m gonna stab her if she comes near me again’ was a vent out of frustration. She didn’t *plan* on killing her, but if she was pushed around and threatened, she wouldn’t hesitate to defend herself! She cant predict how far Halia or her brother would take things and when they would appear again to torment her. She just wanted them to stop, and gave them many chances to deescalate. Sorry, but I’m completely on Briana’s side. No amount of ‘being a protective friend’ justifies this aggressive behavior. You either argue or ignore them, you don’t STALK them and continuously prompt conflicts.

[@AllycatCommentary]

it also sounds a lot like hyperbole to me. Who hasn't casually mentions hurting someone who was ticking us off without really meaning it? Hell, I could probably have a case brought against me for sending threats to my sister to not eat the last of my potato chips, and vise versa for her.

[@marinaSassygUrl88]

​@AllycatCommentary Lol same. Sometimes language can be very tricky and make you seem way more awful than you intended to be. I ofc have learned not to use anything with the word "d*th" "d*es" "k*ll" when talking about people I hate or have hurt me. People may not always understand that you don't literally want to do that to these people... Even after I would say something like "I wish this b*tch would d*e" I would instantly feel terrible after even thinking of that. I would be so deep in my feelings to really pay attention to what I just said. Not to mention, growing up with my mom who till now, casually wishing illness and d*th on KIDS and people for whatever the reason that she has.

[@annacatherineandrews]

Yeah she was getting hunted down! She was backed into a corner in my opinion

[@Gotham_Moon]

100%. Even those text messages show self-defense imo. They're the words of someone who isn't seeking out violence, but who is prepared to protect herself as she sees fit.

[@rat697]

I had an employee like Halia. She would constantly start fights with coworkers that did absolutely nothing to her. We're all from a small midwestern town and she acted like she was from the hood. One of the times I reprimanded her she told me that I didn't know what real life was, that you can't "disrespect" (no one was disrespecting her) her and expect her to just let it slide. No, cases like THIS are real life. Of course no one should be killed over things like this but I won't be surprised if she ends up like Halia.

[@AHHHHHH107]

I'm also in a small Midwestern town. Why do so many people act like they're from "the hood". You're definitely closer to being a hill billy than from the hood😂

[@rat697]

@@AHHHHHH107 it's crazy because where i live (and i'm sure many other midwestern towns) sooo many people act like they're hillbillies too. like pick one!! this tiny ass town can't be the hood AND the backwoods.

[@LanaJustBecause]

not a psychological, but I have a feeling it’s a defence mechanism due to past trauma with bullies and/or abusers. “If I act tough, nobody will hurt me” kind of mindset. As for why they “act/talk hood” thing, well, I guess they think it’s intimidating. It could have been picked up from someone they know who speaks a similar way, or (and I hate to sound like a 40 year old mom here) it was learned through social media and/or films, tv, etc. im not trying to excuse this kind of behaviour, just explain it. some people may just be disturbed and this is how they express it. it’s sad honestly.

[@RoachIndited]

Yeah, this is what’s annoying me about boze, she’s painting her as if she’s some type of noble character who will protect you with all of her heart. Yet, you know for a fact, she’s a mouthy little bully, just like her brother, he’s threatening the guy because he wants a fight to happen. if she had won, it would be all over KZbin. They talk about it laughing for days. Unless somebody is really evil, people will act like they were nice. When in actuality you do everything to avoid them it’s just easier

[@thr33b3an]

"hood" whats acting like "hood" weird r@cs1st?

[@smidgen]

she doesn't come across as rageful, she comes across as completely defensive up until the point the knife comes out, and even then she doesn't come across as angry

[@jakemiller4411]

I think this was self defense

[@CaramalGoddessFrFr]

@@jakemiller4411 I agree

[@xYx-fppppp]

She Comes across as a psycho who stabbed someone in the neck. Could've stabbed _anywhere_ else if you wanna be a wimp making it a weapon fight. But no. Stabbed to kill on purpose. That seemed to be ignored be the weirdos in need of therapy defending it. Pulling a weapon out is what cowards do. Shouldve known how it was gonna go as soon as I saw what Briana looked like. Are yall this wimpy that you need to rely on death threats & weapons

[@jakemiller4411]

@@xYx-fppppp if you back up while pulling a weapon and someone still attacks you it’s on them

[@daniellehayner4805]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@xYx-fppppp if someone was recording me while another person was approaching me while verbally and physically threatening me I’d defend myself too. You sound stupid btw.

[@morganhutcherson3052]

this wouldn’t have happened if Halia wasn’t literally waiting outside to fight this girl. It’s absolutely horrible she lost her life but it was self defense, this was so avoidable

[@laurynholling2309]

I agree 100%. I know the stabbing seems so so extreme but Briana used a self defense weapon the way it was intended to be used. And there is usually a consequence to that even if it’s self defense. And I think that’s why Briana took the plea. I think with a whole trial and witness statements and more evidence collection from prosecution and defense would have made a good chance of her getting a not guilty verdict because it was self defense. That’s why the prosecution even offered that plea

[@smidgen]

counter argument to halia's family on bryanna "knowing" halia would be there ahead of time - why would she expect your underage daughter at a smoke shop?

[@kas_ualties7692]

Exactly, and wasn’t Halia the one who waited outside the shop to continue the fight? If Bryanna went there premeditated, why didn’t she immediately follow her out and started stabbing? Why did Bryanna stall for so long backing up, and when she did get her ‘revenge’ it was a measly 1 stab. It wasn’t a fit of passion or some desire to get back at her, it was a defense to get her to stop.

[@Angeliiyuhh]

Idk what its like in Ohio but at least in NJ/NY the smoking age has been 21 for a few years so theyre both minors

[@platedlizard]

@@Angeliiyuhhin most states the smoking age is 18

[@tallhotsexy]

Even if she did know she’d be there, so what? You need to learn how to coexist with people you don’t like that’s just part of life

[@mattb6646]

It doesn't matter if she knew she would be there. Halla was the aggressor. End of story.

[@darklordsatan4383]

Sorry, but she was being assaulted, while the brother also threatened to come beat her if she fought back. She had all the reasons to use lethal force in that situation. I understand the parents are upset at the death of their child, but they should be more upset at that pathetic excuse of a brother who encouraged his sister, as well as themselves for raising such a daughter, not the person their children attempted to victimize.

[@zodiaccentral8908]

Total agree! We aren’t talking about two girls just having a slapping/scratching match outside at school. Not only did they get aggressive with her in the smoke shop, they then waited for her to come outside to record the altercation and go after her. She gets threatened by the brother that if she fights back he’s going to “put the phone down.” She tried to deescalate the situation by backing up to walk away, and she made it known that she had no intention to fight her but this girl and her brother wanted the fight to take place. She had every reason to be in fear and defend herself. She only stabbed once and was honest about it from the beginning when questioned. If it’s true that they were also showing up to her house as described in the texts then her bringing that pocket knife with her also proves that she was afraid. It’s sad that someone died as a result but they also put themselves in that situation by being bullies and trying to intimidate. The parents made it seem as if their kids had done nothing wrong by attempting to shift all the blame on the defendant. It’s clear to me where their children learned this behavior.

[@justinwilliams8765]

Even the texts are self defense 😩

[@OneFlewCuckoo]

Literally

[@scrimblo5845]

well, they do say "if Halia comes near me again" not that Bryanna was going to go after Halia and hunt her down, that girl just wanted to be left alone!

[@kas_ualties7692]

Right… showing up at her home, waiting for her outside the shop... Did they expect this 120 lbs girl to fight against a taller, heavier girl and potentially her grown ass brother? Was she supposed to just accept it and get beaten up blue and purple? Genuinely asking these dumbass parents who don’t want to fault their precious daughter for cornering a girl and escalating the situation.

[@evd8175]

The brother is a POS in my eyes. He had the power to de-escalate and he basically let his sister die

[@kaixkai0]

exactly 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@wiggilytaco7570]

They are both bullies, they expected her to be weak and defenseless the entire time and brag about it

[@platedlizard]

Yup he was egging her on instead of saying hey sis let's go it's not worth it

[@JosiahDePhoenix]

I'm sure if he knew his sister would get stabbed to death, he would have acted differently. Not sure he is to blame at all.

[@yulana990]

@@JosiahDePhoenix Even if he didn't know Bryanna had a knife, the fact that he went out of his way to escalate the situation further is the insane part. Nobody should expect to get away unharmed in a situation where you are attacking someone, and he was egging his sister on to keep going and keep attacking. Anyone with common sense would know that people snap, and there was a HUGE chance his sister would end up getting hurt at some point, in the form of being beaten up or punched at the least. To egg such situations on ever is insane, especially when it's your own sibling in the middle of the night. He 100% is partially to blame, none of this would've happened if he didn't keep egging his sister on and instead tried to de-escalate the situation from the jump, and tell her there is no need to even wait for Bryanna outside the shop. Instead, he grabbed his phone to film it as if it's some fun exciting spectactle, and egged his sister on.

[@taylorp6643]

Halia f*cked around and found out, unfortunately. Bryanna defended herself against an attack. Halia's brother should be charged since he instigated the fight in the first place and didn't call it off after they all knew Bryanna had a kn*fe.

[@Tokiohotel192]

In a nut shell that's the line of this story. F around and find out

[@yogijager]

That such BS. You don’t defend yourself with a deadly weapon to the neck just from a fistfight ffs

[@taylorp6643]

@yogijager so you think the people who who have such little respect for you that they will physically assault you are going to have the decency to only hit you a couple of times? I carry for this exact reason. Obviously don't instigate fights, but stop with the self flagulating. You have a right and responsibility to protect yourself should someone else try to instigate with you.

[@fartsmokes4644]

@@yogijageryou must be underage because in the adult real world if you keep aggressing on someone and they kill you it’s your fault for bugging them

[@Jodariel.]

​@@yogijageryou also don't gang up on a person while filming them and threatening anyone that tries to stop the assault while laughing. Again, fuck around and find out.

[@maddiemare5093]

Definitely self defense. I don’t mean to sound insensitive, but how can the family excuse Halia who was actively antagonizing and attacking someone else? What would have happened if Bryanna hadn’t defended herself? Would things have escalated differently? I’m also surprised they didn’t look more into Halia’s history of potentially harassing Bryanna prior to the incident. It could have explained why she was carrying the knife in the first place.

[@fallenbee]

Why is no one taking the brother into account too?? Her brother was literally saying he was going to attack her in the video. I'm pretty sure having two people attack you/threatening to attack you is probable cause to have a knife and then use said knife but idk maybe I'm wrong 😭

[@tedybomber1713]

⁠@@fallenbee yup. This. Dude was egging her on. Basically saying I’ll jump in too emboldening her to be more aggressive. If he was my family I’d def have a lot of blame to throw his way. Just dum.

[@dittoroxursox1o1]

I wonder if Halia's family take into account the version of this where it was a fistfight and Bryanna ended up pressing assault charges or something else tragic happened. I know it sounds crazy, but humans die very easily, a boy in my high school died in a fight because he got pushed and fell back on his head. They knew she was easily triggered to violence, and obviously (based on the brother) the family did not go through great pains to discourage that in their home. The knife used was a fully legal self defense weapon any fight is rolling the dice.

[@Just1nY.]

Seek therapy, y'all got bullied for a reason & are projecting so hard just to defend murder As if she had to be stabbed in the neck. Not anywhere else? Or just not having a knife in the first place like you typical “I read creepypasta” school shooter weirdos

[@calycalyps0]

Imo if she would have not pulled the knife they would still be in court. But brianna would have been the victim.

[@jonaskelly6571]

Unjustifiable rage??? You’ve gotta be kidding me! She was being harassed to the point that she felt she needed to carry a knife. Rightfully so, because Halia was trying to jump her - with her brother both recording it and saying he’d jump in if Halia appeared to lose the upper hand. This is SELF DEFENSE. Halia AND HER BROTHER decided to play Billy Badass and played a game of F*** Around And Find Out. This is what happens. I’m sorry all these families have to suffer, but when you play stupid games, you just might win stupid prizes.

[@scrimblo5845]

I'm so glad to see the comments filled with people with common sense! Boze is being way too defensive of Halia tbh

[@dinkyboss]

Exactly like Halia’s family had to know they were on bs and that their behavior will obviously lead them to negative consequences. I hate when people pretend that their kids are saints despite knowing they were wrong.

[@barbiedoll44]

@@OneFlewCuckooself defence may have been stabbing her in an area that isn’t straight to the neck 😭😭 the leg maybe ? There were many options she could’ve took instead of taking a life, like calling the police on Halia, carrying mace, a taser ,etc. She clearly had the intention of killing her prior, as we can see in her messages

[@Caffeinated_Acrobat]

​​@@OneFlewCuckooI agree completely. Good take.

[@wouldyouliketotrypremiumidiot]

THANK YOU!!! EXTREMELY BASED!!!!

[@aurorethebore]

This is giving the vibe that Halia was harassing Bryanna nonstop and would not let things go until they fought while Bryanna didn’t want to fight. It feels like self defense.

[@jenm9702]

100% agree cause even she went to the police and report that the girl was harassing her they would have not done anything, she clearly carried that knife because she needed to protect herself 😊

[@ferret2308]

Bryanna wasn't the aggressor its was technically self-defense. Bryanna warned Halia multiple times, she was was not the disorderly one meanwhile Halia continued to berate her and be aggressive (not to say that's an excuse for the death threats and ultimately Halia's death BUT it isn't exactly a survival mindset). On top of this Halia's brothers behavior hyping his sister up was so inappropriate. Also, 17 and 18 in a smoke shop? really?

[@dinkyboss]

Exactly, certain behaviors lead to certain consequences. Every time you pick a figh you have to accept the possibility it won’t go the way you think it should.

[@Spooky_Platypus]

Used to be just 18 to smoke remember?

[@Stories_I_Tell_Ya]

Uhm…. It’s Ohio, calm down. They sell tobacco and shit 😂

[@mlemgee]

I'm from Ohio and I've been in 100s of cstores. Smoke shops a lot of times are also corner shops here.

[@KW-nt5go]

Kids younger than that go to smoke shops. 😂 Store clerks sell right to them.

[@shelbydan]

i get that halia didn’t expect to get stabbed in the neck but like… what did she expect?!?!? imo she fully expected to severely hurt bryanna and even let her brother join in. you play stupid games you get stupid prizes. and obviously bryanna was a pretty stupid prize. she should’ve just stayed in the smoke shop and called the cops but she was stupid enough to walk outside to face her aggressor, knowing she had a knife in her pocket that she was more than willing to use.

[@wiggilytaco7570]

Wasn’t she also kicked out thou?

[@raijuko]

​@@wiggilytaco7570 no lol

[@nyphira]

Halia was the aggressor tho.

[@yunki_]

Huh….. who exactly are you trying to take up for here?

[@shelbydan]

@@yunki_ neither one. hallia was acting insane, obviously threatening the safety of bryanna who i believe had the right to defend herself. on the other hand, bryanna could have stayed in the store (or walked back in the store) and waited for police once she noticed hallia was waiting outside for her. but bryanna also KNEW she had a knife in her pocket. she knew that hallia was being aggressive and that she may need to defend herself. she put herself in that situation knowingly. both girls faced consequences for their actions, whether either or neither was justified.

[@magpye5623]

Of course she will be mad when she is constantly being attacked by a woman wherever she goes. Bryanna should go free, it’s a shame that Halia died because she was young and could have changed but she was a constant threat to Bryanna who was just trying to protect herself and doesn’t strike me as a repeat offender.

[@laurynholling2309]

This part. I don’t see Briana even ever getting in a fight. I think had she not met halia she never would have been in even a friend break up fight like she was. She literally just wanted halia to not be her friend anymore since she was so offended by something Briana did. It seemed like Briana was like ummm wtf okay? And was honestly really upset halia wouldn’t just leave it alone as them not liking each other anymore

[@e1420]

If I was acting like Halia in that video my family would have disowned me on the spot, alive or not.

[@HighImNotBob]

My family left my brother to the wolves multiple times for assault charges fighting people. You raise someone to be good, don't back them when their an idiot. Really helped my brother straighten his life out.

[@laurynholling2309]

My mom probably would have apologized to Briana for the trauma she would have to live with from taking a life. And that she forgives her and hopes she can do something great with her life one day for the both of us. Like, my mom would feel so bad for Briana. I know that seems wild, but there’s no way my mom would mourn me as a victim. She’d mourn me. But not as a victim

[@DapUniversalTarot]

I'm sorry you have a family that can only love you conditionally. Must be really tough.

[@laurynholling2309]

@@DapUniversalTarot I don’t think that’s someone loving conditionally. I think that’s setting a boundary. 2 of my sisters have disowned my father because of his behavior. I don’t think that means they don’t love him. They just can’t have that type of person in their lives. Violence is never okay. Even at their age.

[@DapUniversalTarot]

@@laurynholling2309 I wouldn’t disown my child for getting into a fight

[@LightningMcqu33f]

I’m sorry but she shouldn’t have to warn her with the knife at all. She backed away for much longer than most people would. Absolutely self defense when someone is in your face like that and their brother is also threatening you.

[@zenimeallamazen9778]

I’m yelling this, YOU SHOULDN’T NEED TO WAVE A KNIFE FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE YOU ALONE !

[@your_elf_friend]

Also, I'm a 5'5 girl who has never been in a fight but carries a knife for safety. I was taught that if you're carrying a knife, you never pull it out to threaten someone, get them to back off, or to cause a minor injury. If they get the knife away from you, they can use it against you. If you stab them somewhere that isn't severe, they could just keep coming at you but with more aggression. If you have a knife, you don't pull it out unless you are going to use it to put the agressor down and reinstate your safety.

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

​@@your_elf_friendYes! Never carry or brandish a weapon you can't handle being turned back on you. I'm glad other people are still teaching that. I carry a knife and a spike because I deem that threat to my own safety acceptable. I DON'T carry a gun because the threat to those uninvolved around me is not acceptable.

[@laurynholling2309]

@@your_elf_friendyeah, that’s why I don’t understand people saying why didn’t she stab her in the arm or something? I was like ummmm, what? Does no one know how to use a knife as a self defense weapon?

[@laurynholling2309]

@@frankiemillcarek6976I feel the exact same way. I have a taser and pepper spray because I’m not comfortable carrying a knife because I think I would hesitate to use it properly and a gun i don’t care for for the same reason as your own

[@shannonrose1592]

The theory that it was premeditated got destroyed as soon as you showed the victim waiting outside for the fight. The incident never would have happened if Halia had left the parking lot. Carrying a knife after being repeatedly harassed and threatened is absolutely reasonable, and speaking out that you’re willing to defend yourself when attacked is not motive. If she was hunting her victim down to stab her, then sure. But that’s not what happened

[@xJulietDoll]

This is so clearly self defense to me.. I always carry pepper spray, a taser and sometimes a small pocket knife because I’m 4’11 and 90 lbs… If somebody comes up to me being aggressive and violent and trying to hurt me am I not supposed to defend myself? Holy shit. It was literally on video. 😭

[@ilikepinkandvillians]

Girl your weight has nothing to do with anything, pick me behaviour. A person weighing 290 lbs and 6,5 can face the same fate

[@TheHypnosBunny]

@@ilikepinkandvillians It actually does have something to do with it. A person who is 90lbs cannot defend themselves against a person who is heavier then them like a person who is 290 pounds can against a person who is lighter than they are.

[@Specialistkay]

@@ilikepinkandvillians yeah. being 90lbs makes you pretty vulnerable. Are you naive? stupid? do you even know what a pick me is? embarrassing.

[@maumaumeow]

⁠@@ilikepinkandvilliansyou’re loud and wrong, a 90 lbs girl is very much less likely to be able to fight off a 200 lbs girl especially compared to vice versa, a 200 lbs girl fighting off a 90 lbs girl

[@xJulietDoll]

@@ilikepinkandvillians Lmao how am I a pick me for saying I’m more vulnerable because I’m small? That’s just a fact. My point was that anybody should be allowed to defend themselves if their life is in danger, ESPECIALLY if you’re smaller than the average person you should definitely carry something to protect yourself because people will see you’re small and see you as weak and an easy target!!

[@Emotional-Support-Demon-Sarica]

I always hate it when people say they were killed by their best friend and shit like that because even if they pretended to be clearly that person was not a friend a friend doesn't murder you

[@ElmosDonut]

Yeah, it’s always really sad when I hear stories like this one

[@DKF_oli]

facts. a friend doesn’t murder you. crazy you even have to say this.

[@lanahaxer]

Well halia was a bully. I watched the videos (not sure if they are in this video I only made it to the sponsored ad) and this isn't just that halia was just senselessly stabbed, despite what her texts say. They were both in the wrong... but you don't bully your friends and put them in the position to need to defend themselves... nor do you stab or murder your friend, either

[@geneticallyengineeredcatgirl]

How can U say anything when Ur dead

[@hillmidget1326]

YES

[@jooniperlynn]

At some point, self-defense for Brianna has to kick in. Warning or not. She didn't stab her multiple times, it was one stab to get Halia to stop attacking her. Brianna was backing up to get away and Halia was continuing to attack Plus, Brianna was there first! How could it be pre-meditated. I hate this fucking system. It's so horrendously broken

[@HeyitsBri_]

Idk how they thought Briana was full of rage and intent when on the video she was trying to get away from this huge, irate girl and only used her weapon after repeatedly telling her to get away from her. That’s what protection is for. Everyone isn’t playing about their safety. Halia and her brother could have dropped this and everyone could have gone home.

[@goingferalluvs]

Right? I always forget whose the attacker in this until i see the video again and remember "this smaller girl was the one that attacked" because it takes me by surprise everytime because of how aggressive and taller Halia is- you'd think it was her

[@ilikepinkandvillians]

She’s not huge but definitely taller and aggressive

[@benjirivoh]

I’m sorry but if there’s two people to threatening me essentially on VIDEO, then I’m going to have to defend myself because halia wasn’t trying to stop what so ever even when she saw the knife. I’m very sorry she’s gone but in honesty, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KEEP FIGHTING SOMEONE WITH A KNIFE

[@limasierra6639]

Halia effed around and found out unfortunately. Bryanna shouldn't be in jail period. The state agrees. She wouldn't have gotten that plea deal if they didn't also think it was self defense . Halia's family is delusional.

[@brittneypensoneau7970]

I think of my sister in this. She started so many fights. There's dozens of videos out there of her beating up girls and getting beat up. She always got away with them mostly unscathed. It so easily could have gone differntly. Its stupid beyond belief to get into physical fights with people. If its physical, the point is to hurt the other person, its one wrong move that can turn it deady.

[@ItsTejYo]

I’m so glad everyone is on Bryanna’s side because it was absolutely self defense and Halia’s family making a go fund me and acting like the justice system failed when this situation was caused BY THEIR DAUGHTER is insane like to me it seems like the parents excused her behavior (and their sons) at all times and never taught them boundaries and unfortunately she learned her lesson the hardest way possible ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as others have said “play stupid games win stupid prizes”

[@ThatBorderJump3r]

The brother recording could have stepped in and broke up the fight too or prevented it from starting, but no, gotta get them views, which he did with his sister dying.

[@fiz1202]

Right! I'm really pissed with the brother. He's kind of the instigator in this case

[@Venumb.]

@@ThatBorderJump3r He did worse than that, he was threatening Briana to join in if she defended herself. IMO he’s the reason she resorted to the knife bc now it was two of them against her and she’s TINY from the looks of it.

[@laurynholling2309]

@@Venumb.I agree with you. She didn’t pull the knife out and tell her to back off again until the brother said he would stop her from defending herself. They wanted Briana to take a really bad beating and halia walk away unscathed. That’s not a fight. That’s an assault. And I can’t believe some of the people saying she should have just taken the beating instead of murdering someone. That’s crazy to me.

[@Venumb.]

@@laurynholling2309 Omg YES! I can’t believe some of the comments trying to portray this a simple argument between girls and have so much sympathy for the brother without holding him accountable. You said it perfectly, it wasn’t a fight that was an attempted assault. I’m not even sure if it was attempted since Halia actually hit her at least once.

[@laurynholling2309]

@@Venumb. yeah, I don’t get this at all. Even the judge in court was like yeah by the way where is this mr baringer or whatever the hell his name is, I didn’t care to figure it out that just close to what I remember hearing his name being. But the judge was like he should be charged for his part in this as well. That was the only time Bryanna didn’t just have a scared and sad face. Her eyes widened and she shook her head a little. I don’t get people saying you don’t bring a knife to a fist fight. That may be, but a fist fight is an agreed upon fight. She was being stalked and waiting to be attacked. That’ll make anyone think they might need a weapon to defend themselves

[@love3-m4b]

This was self defense. She said please leave me alone. If you don't i will protect myself. And then she protected herself when the girl wouldn't leave her alone. The girl and her brother who was yelling to get her. People are going to be so afraid to defend themselves if anything bad happens. I will be dead if i do nothing and i will be in jail if i protect myself.

[@marufubi]

What happened to self defense?

[@jakemiller4411]

Yeah I don’t know why this was charged

[@notimestwo]

It was self defense caught on camera. I am in awe and shocked and disgusted she was even put on trial for anything but INVOLUNTARY manslaughter. Not MURDER?!? The actual fuck?? I’m not her so I don’t know where she intended to stab Lahila, maybe she did intend to stab her in a place that would be lethal, which is not necessary in my opinion. But I also wasn’t there, I wasn’t surrounded by two people who were going to beat me up. This reminds me somewhat of a case where a group of teens were instigating a grown man, they started to group up and hit the man, so he took out his knife and stabbed some of the teenagers. I don’t remember specifics, but it has me thinking along the same lines. You never know what someone is going to do when they’re in a state of fear, they might lash out with lethal force. Just don’t fight people. Just don’t instigate violence.

[@izzyshang]

because some people in law enforcement are just stupid. it was absolutely self defense, she never started anything. it was halia who started it the minute bryanna walked in.

[@Just1nY.]

@@izzyshangseek therapy, instead of you little weirdos wishing you had a knife when you got bullied bc you can't handle a fight or embarrassment like a normal teen

[@Just1nY.]

@@izzyshangweird as fck

[@radishfest]

I've used a knife for defense exactly once. My roommate was cornered in a campsite bathroom, I got between her and the man trying to harm her. I blocked the doorway with my body and held the knife *UP TO* his neck. Screamed my head off until people came out and called the cops. I 100% blame the bystanders here for not helping. Using a knife to attack is something I thankfully cannot relate to. You can't take that kind of thing back. Adrenaline is different for each person... just saying what my experience was like.

[@AnnaLocke]

I remember that case you're talking about. I think his name was Nicholas or maybe Nikoli he was looking for his friends phone in a river, and he had the knife on him to cut the rope on the dingies and inflatable rings on the river. Those teenagers surrounded that man and were basically shoving him about and teasing him. That case was a real shame. I felt really bad for Nicholas.....

[@ciciriddick]

This is self-defense. She wouldn't leave her alone.

[@lizatolbert9162]

If someone slapped me, am I not supposed to me be mad? 😂

[@marismimi]

Are you going to stab someone on the neck for slapping you?

[@Emblavar]

Over a slap, you’re not supposed to end their life. Everyone only gets the gift of life once, who are you to end someone? It is such a major, horrible thing to do.

[@Ruipaella]

@@Emblavar But what if Halia wasn't satiated with the one slap? Am I supposed to just allow myself to be assaulted? Like yes I can agree that no one had to die in this situation but at what point is the aggressor going to stop without deterance? And we aren't about to sit here and fuss over how things should have gone, what Bryanna should have done, she reacted to being assaulted, perhaps not in a way you would agree but who is Halia to be putting her hands on anyone? Idk about y'all but my parents to this day tell me to keep my hands to myself because I can hit someone sure, but how they respond I have literally no control over. If they take it too far, whose fault is it? Because they didn't start it but they sure as hell bout to finish it.

[@nonverbal-turtle]

You can be mad but you can't KILL SOMEONE OVER IT bffr

[@lizatolbert9162]

@@nonverbal-turtle Like hell I can! It’s called self defense, if someone is about to assault me or has started assaulting me, I’m stopping that in anyway possible

[@Arabelless]

Both of these girls were children... it is my opinion that the parents should be holding most of the blame from this situation. It should have never gotten to this level of aggression, and it seems like there was a pattern of antagonization from both parties. If there are text messages saying that someone's going to cut a b****, there should have definitely been some parental intervention.

[@imjusthere4theteahahah822]

This!!

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

Definitely the parents did not teach their kids how to de-escalate a situation, or that it is wrong to harass and assault people. What's right and wrong is kinda the most important thing to teach your children, and those parents failed that.

[@nyphira]

Parents usually dont check their 17/18 yo childs phone. How cpuld they have known about those texts?

[@TheHarleqwin]

"It feels like a betrayal of my daughter's memoey" Then maybe you should have taught her not to start fights, knowing fully that this is a possibility in this world.

[@SuperstarJwi]

honestly this story sucks to hear on both sides, rip to Halia but the fact is that we should look at the parents of both for raising their kids in violent mindsets. had bryanna died, Halia would've almost certainly faced life in prison, since even fists only fights can lead to death. both should've just went home.

[@scrimblo5845]

I don't think Bryanna was able to go home, Halia was waiting for her outside of the shop w her brother who was eager to record Bryanna getting jumped

[@awkwardfirstdate_official901]

100%. It’s so frustrating when the family members of people like Halia (and those obviously much worse; I don’t think she needed to die) are always so blind to their faults and fail to hold them accountable for any of their negative actions. I guarantee that if Halia survived then she would most definitely have retaliated, probably killing Bryanna and then her family would still be in that courtroom crying because she’d be on trial for first degree murder.

[@joshuathomas043]

Exactly what I said

[@timaalo154]

more like rest in hell

[@TackledHistory]

Imagine the bus driver having to listen to those singing competitions every single day 😂

[@BakedBones420]

Thought the same thing, poor thing

[@RhyaKahnum]

I don't think Bryanna should have gotten jail time at all tbh. Yes, what happened was a tragedy, but if someone is in fear for their life I don't blame them for ending things quickly in self-defense. Don't instigate, and don't put your hands on other people without their permission. It's a real shame Halia made a mistake that cost her life and I wish it didn't, but Bryanna was not at fault here. If you believe she really was passively antagonizing her to draw a reaction, that changes things a bit. But it still wouldn't make Halia's aggression justified.

[@beanybabyrabie]

She clearly was talking about slicing her throat open beforehand… meaning she was carrying the knife for that purpose.

[@jazlynlopez6409]

⁠@@beanybabyrabieI don’t agree that Halia should’ve died over it but she clearly said she would stab her or slice her throat open “if she keeps coming by my house” or something along those lines. So the video wasn’t the only incident where Halia was being the aggressor. If someone keeps threatening you and coming to your home where you’re supposed to be safe why wouldn’t you start to carry something for self protection? I personally don’t know if I’d carry a whole ass knife around in this specific situation but regardless it’s not hard to understand that it’s not something she was planning on doing maliciously or probably even wanting to do but rather something she was preparing for in fear of her safety.

[@jazlynlopez6409]

@@beanybabyrabieAlso it wasn’t just a 1 v 1 fight her brother also kept threatening to jump in if Halia appeared to lose the upper hand. Again I don’t think Halia should’ve died at all and it’s horrible that she did but I really can’t be that mad at Bryanna when she was literally protecting herself and she didn’t even stab her right away. She kept backing away for awhile. If she was going to stab her right away why not get the knife ready right before she exits the store? I really don’t think it’s something she wanted to do.

[@toshaj4138]

I feel for Halia's family, however, she was the aggressor. She was also bigger and taller than Brianna and would not stop. Id rather defend myself than be beaten to a pulp.

[@ayajade6683]

Why they raised someone who was a menace to society Halia would've done this throughout her entire life their family is enabling POS

[@Manasama3ffect]

I definitely think this was self defense it was in the video but I feel like she could have stabbed her somewhere else that wasn’t fatal

[@wooah_chinchillaa1767]

i think this too, it was self defense but with fatal intent of the injury/death she wanted to cause

[@kurieita7607]

I mean of course she could’ve, but depending on her state of mind for all we know she just instinctively slashed at her with no intent of where, just did. I know I can totally see myself doing that off instinct based on how I grabbed my knife and how close the person I feel is a threat is- however I will say personally, I had “Can’t stand can’t fight, can’t see can’t fight, can’t breathe can’t fight” ingrained into me and was taught what places I should try and hit at should someone threaten and or snatch me with whatever I have so maybe that’s why I can see it - idk I just think while she could’ve hit her with it anywhere else, I can’t really blame her cause I can only guess how fast the moment actually happened was

[@cmhsky]

I concur. But she was the one getting attacked as she kept backing away. How's she know this girl is gonna stop and not just get mad she's a lil wounded?

[@Anna-ik6qz]

We should think about the fact that the whole thing probably happened so fast and when heliah slapped her, she probably just swung her arm in defense not really looking where it's gonna stick if at all. That's just how I feel about the situation

[@SuperstarJwi]

all stab wounds can be fatal, it just varies on how much time you have before death.

[@widowkeeper4739]

That did not look like 'unjustifiable rage', it looks like self-defense. It does appear to me that Bryanna was trying to give Halia numerous chances, and Halia pushed her luck. It's tragic Halia didn't survive, but it's her own fault. I would push for Not Guilty.

[@jocelynsandoval9385]

Am I the only one who wants to know why/what happened when Halia showed up at her house the first time? It sounds like Halia had a track record of harassing Bryanna.

[@nellic2362]

This is one of the only times I’ve ever disagreed with Boze Halia and her brother were 100% wrong yeah stuff like this doesn’t always happen but people will defend themselves as they see fit

[@chrisbenoit5044]

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[@adhamsoliman-ue2kn]

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[@ejmabrothers6743]

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[@BestOffer-ii9ny]

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[@adhamsoliman-ue2kn]

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[@ejmabrothers6743]

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[@SquirmleSquirmly]

I mean don’t attack people who obviously don’t wanna fight if you don’t want them to defend themselves I think they’re both at fault, neither is the good or bad guy. I think halias mistake was to show up at a girls family home and wait for her outside a store to beat her ass. And having your brother yell at her that she better not fight back is crazy, in that context no shit is brianna gonna defend herself. She should have most definitely warned halia before stabbing her like that, waving a knife around in the dark is NOT a warning. Especially since halia is swinging her fists around I doubt she ever saw the knife at all. There’s no justification for just stabbing, briannas life wasn’t in danger she most definitely could have threatened halia or made it known she had a weapon. Though I don’t think she’s a monster or did it out of “unjustifiable rage” infact I think her rage was very justified if everything Brianna said halia was doing is true. But I do think she’s stupid and made the bigger mistake. The way brianna defended herself was thoughtless and unlawful. I think three years in prison is fair.

[@notimestwo]

Literally. What do you expect? Don’t attract someone. It’s all on camera, literally the girl approaching her and starting an attack.

[@cmhsky]

If someone attacks you, you have no idea how far they're willing to take hurting you.

[@RK-dc2es]

Seriously. I've had a person get in my face, told them to go away, not to touch me, etc., then when they did put their hands on me anyway, I hauled off on them. Suddenly they're all "Whats your PROBLEM, are you CRAZY". Like, sorry, no you don't get to act like the aggrieved party here just because your dumb bullsh*t didn't go as well as you thought it would

[@scrimblo5845]

@@RK-dc2es SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣

[@yizzwtf]

thissss yes

[@tobers_is_lost]

this is definitely one of those cases with a lot of nuance. there's a lot of pain on both sides, i think. it feels like a case of everything going way too far way too fast, and everyone suffering consequences that could have been avoided in a million ways.

[@JMoon5216]

Look, we all say things out of anger. The amount of times I have said “quit or imma stab you” is uncountable. Have I ever stabbed anybody? No. Would I unless it was self defense? No. from the video, I still see this as self defense. “She could have aimed for a less fatal area” yall really think she was aiming? This girl and her brother comin up on her, she just wanted her away, had a knife, did what she did. I don’t think she was aiming. Of course there is 3 sides to every story, but based on the video, the way they both were acting, self defense, with malicious intent. Edit: I would take the plea. 3 years is nothing compared to the rest of your life. Edit 2: yea actually. 3 kids from my high school (at different times). One was shot and killed during an argument with his best friend. One was stabbed during a disagreement in the parking lot, and the last one was hit by a car because of an argument. It’s self not as uncommon as you think, especially in small towns.

[@barbiedoll44]

yes but the issue here is she actually DID stab her.. so ??

[@dustrose8101]

@@barbiedoll44 Hey, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Halia played a stupid game, and she won a stupid prize.

[@JMoon5216]

@@barbiedoll44 I’m saying if I ended up stabbing somebody in self defense, they could use something I said literally TODAY against me because it “makes it seemed planned” when in all reality it wasn’t

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

Regarding the "stabbing is *extreme*, how often do you see that?" I grew up in a not great area. There was gang violence and general violence at my schools all the time. A girl stabbed her mom's boyfriend before school and no one said anything about her bloody sweatshirt. Guys were packing guns at school all the time. Girls carried pepper spray. I carried an assortment of weapons (still do.) I got jumped on the train once by four older girls (18 to my 13) who were pulling on my hair trying to drag me to the ground so they could kick and stomp on me. That literally could be deadly. Being a karateka I kept a cool head, tossed my friend my glasses, donkey kicked the two girls behind me, reached up and yanked one girl off of me and came away with a handful of weave, while punching the last girl anywhere I could swing. I screamed the whole time to draw attention to us but no one was phased. No adults came to help me. So I used as much force as I had to to be able to leave the situation, then my friends grabbed my backpack and followed me when I bounced. I got the reputation of "Don't fuck with Frankie, she will leave you bald." My principal came to me two days later asking if I had been fighting on the train. I explained and got in no trouble, but what were y'all gonna do to protect your students TWO DAYS after they're assaulted?! Nothing. Sometimes you have to protect yourself, even as a child. It’s backward as fuck.

[@grimmgoosegoose216]

Yeah... I'm from Texas and having a knife is bog standard. We carried them at school. Now, my school did not have an issue with fighting, but it was known in the community not to start something you couldn't finish cause you didn't know if the other person just had fists, or a knife or if you were going to end up shot. That being said, I definitely think this is a case where Brianna thought Helia would survive, people don't realize how fragile we are, I do love your nickname btw, as much as that probably sucked ass as it was happening, ripping weave is an excellent deterrent

[@violetk8025]

I think you are projecting your situation on to this one

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

​@@violetk8025 Boze literally said "Have you ever heard of somebody in your school dying by being stabbed? No." But my answer was yes and I relayed some relevant stories. It's not projecting. She asked.

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

​@@grimmgoosegoose216 Yeah I did not mind the reputation! I used it to protect my friends from sexual harassment mostly. Like I said, I grew up in karate and by that point in my life was already teaching the adult class. Our blackbelt tests would blindfold you and put you amongst multiple higher level blackbelts and say "Survive!" So I wasn't unfamiliar with the situation.

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

​@@grimmgoosegoose216 and I agree people have no idea how fragile humans are. Whitebelts (kids esp) were the most likely to injure you in a spar because they didn’t know how to control their strength and didn’t yet know how much it could hurt to get hit full force. When I was a young wildchild I did lots of dangerous stuff that I look back on and think "I really was an inch from death." And I was trained! Kids just do not have the capacity to fully understand that we are delicate little meatbags.

[@iamnotaconcept]

This mother crying about burying her kid- why did both of your kids turn out so awful?? Live with that.

[@cassiephillips9011]

Your definitely not wrong !!I would be ashamed if my children acted like this !!!

[@bunn1bab1]

from the mothers reaction in all of this, not taking any accountability for HER children’s actions (basically stalking this girl and threatening/attempting to jump her) you can definitely tell her daughter has had a history of this behavior and her mother never disciplined her or held her accountable for her actions, like cry over ur dead kid all you want but don’t act like you didn’t allow her AND HER BROTHER to act like this. her mother and brother are JUST as much responsible for this as breyanna, maybe even more so. bre was just defending herself from a crazy bitch and her brother and i see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[@Amy-ce7eb]

Getting slapped is no joke. It can cause jaw, nose, even brain injuries. Of course I dont know how hard halia slapped her, or what bryanna's experience with violence is, but ive been slapped hard and out of the blue before. Its frightening, its painful, its disorienting, and tbh im not surprised that bryanna reacted the way she did with the weapon she had on hand, whether it was a reaction or planned

[@nadeastarr8272]

Love working from home and seeing a new Boze upload❤❤❤

[@vmarieeee]

This case is tragic but also street fights have ended tragically like this since forever. In my opinion this was clearly self defense, Bryanna saying “i’m not gonna fight you, you’re not worth it” pretty obviously shows that. Now am I saying a stab in the neck is what should’ve been done? Absolutely not, but then again when you’re being approached like that, then get hit and the aggressor has someone recording and egging them on ofc you’re going to try defending yourself and in that moment you’re not thinking about if your next move is going to end someone’s life. Again very tragic but this also needs to be a lesson for others. Especially for the ppl in the comments saying shit like “ppl don’t know how to fight these days” “you’re a coward if you can’t fight properly” I really hope y’all grow up bc every minor inconvenience or fall out doesn’t warrant a petty fight. That’s such an immature and unnecessary way to deal with your problems.

[@alalouis1]

The victim was the aggressor she had 2 other people there to intimidate her

[@music4evrr]

How could you even say that? When she was kicked out she should’ve left, no reason to wait around and RECORD. Fuck around and find out. Free my girl Bryanna

[@shanlieart]

Honestly I feel bad for Bryanna. Reminds me of stalking cases where people get harassed but no one cares until it escalates to someone getting hurt. Usually the victims are the ones killed. But this time the real victim Bryanna defended herself and the perpetrator unfortunately died and became the victim by law instead. Our system doesn't protect people until it's too late. Can't say I feel bad for Halia, and I hope her brother lives with the worst regret of all. Shame on him.

[@violetk8025]

She wasn’t being stalked they were both being crazy . One was antagonizing and the other had threatened to stab her over and over again

[@Ashe.Monday]

@@violetk8025 if someone threatens to stab you, maybe stay the fuck away and not try to fight them? 😂😂

[@shanlieart]

@@violetk8025I was using stalking as a parallel, BUT in a text in court Bryanna talked about how she was gonna go off on Halia if she kept coming to her house and harassing her family. So Halia was overstepping boundaries to make Bryanna scared for her safety for a while. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume she was being stalked, since bullying often comes with that territory.

[@IceFireofVoid]

Reminds me of all the child abuse cases where police/CPS don't do anything because "the kid doesn't have any injuries" like ??? WHY DO YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO GET THAT FAR BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING?

[@denisemarie3734]

Perhaps Halia's family should have raised their children better. I don't feel bad for her. That girl was clearly stalking the other one and the aggressor along with her brother.

[@mostprofoundquiet]

I'm on the side of self defense when you've got Halia's brother egging his sister on and threatening to join the fight himself if Bryanna dares defend herself. The brother's behavior is the most disgusting of all, IMO.

[@dittoroxursox1o1]

I get where the family is coming from. And I would never begrudge them their feelings. But I genuinely don’t believe that this was a case of murder. I think the manslaughter plea is correct and and three years feels right. Even if that altercation had just been a fight, those still can end very badly. I knew a guy in high school who got in a fight, got pushed down, and fell wrong, killing him. These girls both acted like stupid teenagers, and something tragic resulted.

[@grimmgoosegoose216]

Yup, there's several cases where a "bar fight" resulted in death, simply because of concussions/bleeds from "just fists" These were stupid kids, BOTH of them,

[@IceFireofVoid]

A kid at my younger siblings' primary school got into a fist fight on the playground and sent another kid to the hospital with multiple broken ribs. They were both like...10 at the time. Fist fights aren't some Looney Tunes goofy aah thing with squeaky sound effects and everyone walks away fine. You can get severely severely hurt and very quickly.

[@scrimblo5845]

Surely Bryanna overreacted, and a punishment for that seems reasonable, but she was acting in self-defense. Those text messages look bad but if Hali behaved aggressively every time they ran into each other, especially if she showed up to Bryanna's HOME like that, I can understand why Bryanna said she would stab her if she showed up again; she was at her breaking point. I also think we should consider the fact that Bryanna was at the smoke shop first and Hali immediately went into a rage the second she walked in. There is a valid suspicion that Hali intentionally went into the shop to attack Bryanna, and she brought her little entourage who were ready to film and play referee. She probably didn't deserve to die over this but she was the aggressor and I just can't see how I am supposed to feel bad for her, her family sure, but her? She chose to stalk and violently harass someone, play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[@brookella6862]

im so glad im not the only one who was thinking halia was the problem

[@girlypopgay]

What does that matter?

[@reginaldmurray7562]

I don't think she should've gotten anytime honestly. Halia waited and assaulted this girl. She also said again meaning she had shown up before where's the accountability

[@madisonwhite9556]

So happy for the new upload I’ve been rewatching the old videos I ran outta content 💀💀

[@btsxskz7866]

....this is technically self defence...she hit her, she defended herself but chose the most stupid dumbest way to defend herself it's ridiculous.

[@grimmgoosegoose216]

Yeah... I have a bunch of military in my family and I've been taught the "proper" way to hold a knife in self defense. That being said, my family was quite clear that knives still kill and the FIRST option is always to run away. I 100% agree with you, she was a stupid kid who made a MAJOR mistake, just like Helia

[@deziahnails8790]

i would agree w you if it wasn’t for the brothers comments about jumping in. Brianna’s bodily safety was very much in danger and if i were her i would have thought so too. there’s another level when a boy is saying he’s willing to jump in a girl fight

[@btsxskz7866]

@@deziahnails8790 true true...ig his comments in the end would make it more threatening

[@Rolling_Girl_falling_forever]

How is it “the most stupid dumbest way” to defend herself?? It wasn’t just Halia threatening her…It was Halias dumbass BROTHER as well, saying he was going to jump her too. Hot take, but I don’t blame Bryanna at all for lashing out. You play stupid games, you’re gonna win stupid prizes. Deal with the consequences of your actions 🤷

[@btsxskz7866]

@Rolling_Girl_falling_forever I know but what I mean anywhere but the neck and these things like pepper spray so you don't kill someone

[@alexcoal5111]

Someone was stabbed in the neck & killed because they were a bully who decided to attack a girl and continue attacking & threatening. There's no reason to feel bad for her. One less attacker to hurt someone.

[@alexcoal5111]

Having to serve any time for defending yourself when you tried to avoid the confrontation is crazy. She shouldn't have been charged at all.

[@jayadawson]

For her to be audacious enough to show up at someone’s family home with dangerous and ill intent then from now on outside for the possibility of if/when I see that person again I would’ve had someone to defend myself as well. She was pushed and provoked and when the moment came she defended herself. No flashy arrogance or lack of self control. Unfortunately the poor baby died but when you play with people who don’t want to be provoked you get what comes to you. She didn’t deserve to die. But she had a choice and she chose wrong. If you get kicked out a smoke shop and wait for her, you chose wrong.

[@wiggilytaco7570]

Honestly? I don’t feel any pity for people like that. They grow up into adults and start problems with people who just want to make money to pay the bills

[@devsie11915]

I was bullied relentlessly by a girl at school and the anger that builds in you is insane after so much harassment. I remember wanting to hurt her, to make her stop. Fortunately, it never escalated to that point, but being followed and berated and threatened can really send you over the edge. Obviously, there are two people here who were angry, but it looks to me like Halia is the one who turned this physical. I can’t say I blame Bryanna, especially with the brother threatening to get involved too.

[@EL-ISS]

The brother encouraging his sister to engage in violence absolutely disgusted me. When you have siblings, its up to you to look out for one another and defend one another if need be. If I saw one of my sisters or my brother engaging in something so asanine and worthless I'd cuss them out after de-escalation. A fight can go south RIDICULOUSLY fast (case in point w/ the topic at hand), it's in your best interest to only resort to it if you ABSOLUTELY need to. Petty squables aren't worth it, family and friends on both sides want to see their loved one home and safe.

[@thanatos8214]

When you're being circled for x amount of time with someone yelling at you to fight you, and their brother is telling them to f you up, then when your assaulted FIRST, yes, that is JUSTIFIED self defense (if even a smidge of rage at being hit)

[@alisonbumstead9017]

Self defense. It's a shame she she got even 3 years! If she would have taken it to trial, no one would have convicted her based on the video alone.

[@Venumb.]

It’s still wild to me that people have so much sympathy for an assault. The brother threatened to join the beating if Briana defended herself. Halia stalked and harassed this girl.

[@digitalhuman5943]

This story reminds me of the book the outsiders. I don’t think when Halia started this fight she expected Bryanna to pull a knife, or go for such a vital location like the neck. The Fact Bryanna had been relying on this for self defense so long before the altercation is worrying, and the fact she was prepared to go for Halia’s neck says she was ready to take her life. No teenager should be in the mental state that they feel like they need to cut someone’s neck to avoid a fight. And the fact she was telling people this and no adults intervened makes me think an entire system failed both Bryanna and Halia. Halia’s brother waited with her to engage in this unnecessary confrontation, and egged it on for entertainment, he failed his sister. Where were anyone’s parents? Where was the school? Did anyone try to separate the girls? Halia was dealing with rumors being spread about her, Bryanna felt so threatened she carried a knife and mentally prepared herself to cut Halia’s throat. There should have been parents they could turn to, counselors to confide in, a school system willing to separate the girls so they no longer interacted. This should have been two people passing by each other in a smoke shop. I doubt there’s a single person that doesn’t wish they would have done something different to protect the lives and childhoods of these two young girls.

[@meleahmadeit]

I get self defense when being provoked, but a stab to the neck is just brutal

[@cathe8282]

Someone I knew lost their 16 year old son in a similar way. He was stabbed in a verbal altercation. The perpetrator then hid the boy, covered up the crime and intimidated witnesses. From what I understood he might have survived if he'd been found. Teens have big emotions and are still very reactive. I feel for that boy dying alone, and that was over 30 years ago. For some words and a pointless fight people die.

[@Lady_Gandalf]

If I’m getting jumped I’m for sure gonna protect myself. Stab in the neck is a little crazy but it’s hard to control everything in those circumstances. I’m sure her fight or flight kicked in

[@sophie.l.noggle267]

BOZEEE QUEEN BOZE BLESSING ME AGAIN

[@raphael7357]

Are you telling me that she is actually being arrested?! My god poor girl. I mean the other girl didn't derseve to die obviously but she asked for a reaction and unfor ended up in the worst result, but I don't think she deserves to be severe punished at all

[@beanybabyrabie]

Just going to ignore the texts? She literally said she was going to slice her throat….

[@TheBunnysFunny]

@@beanybabyrabie IF Halia didn't leave her alone.. and in the end.. Halia was the aggressor, and this is technically self defense still.

[@raphael7357]

​​​@@beanybabyrabiewhat is your sugestion then baby? Her being abused until the point where her actual life was in danger it was her life on the coin. Her only mistake was stabbing next to the neck, otherwise she is the true victim here

[@librab2497]

This reminds me of that apple river stabbing! That guy was surrounded by people. There’s video evidence of all those younger guys talking shit and pushing him down. He should not be serving so much time!

[@Fisheey]

I just wanna say this, all street fights carry a risk of death. I don't think people realize just how easy it is to die during a street fight. This could have escalated to a brawl without the knife and there would still be a significant risk of fatal injury. This tends to be something that is HIGHLY regarded within the martial arts community, they teach you just how dangerous it is to fight like this when it isn't a spar. It is literally to the point that if you challenge someone to a fight, you should be prepared for death. We need media to stop glamorizing street fights and casual fistfighting. We need media to represent how easy it is to lose your life. If you land wrong you can die. Don't start a fight without understanding that you or the other party could die. If you can't fight with pettiness or words, then it's obvious you shouldn't be fighting to begin with.

[@Rafael-p6c9g]

AMEN !

[@Feverm00n]

Well said

[@azariaasle]

I think this is why we should really take a moment to think "is this person really worth risking my life/future to fight?" And it almost never is, especially not in your teen years. You never really know who you're dealing with or what they could do to you until it happens. It's awful that Halia's brother will live knowing that he essentially guided his sister towards her death, and all for what?? A stupid escalator istg, I hope the family will be able to heal and the brother learns from this.

[@norse_cat]

The brother of the “victim” is so frustrating. It’s seriously like play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 🏆 Not to blame someone who got killed entirely, but they were clearly provoking a response. They just didn’t wager on that response.

[@hillmidget1326]

Its sad to see someone so young loose thier life vut this is why you dont act like that, you dont know what someones going to do when your getting in their face and putting them in a corner

[@Flavoaw1013]

23:20 you have it wrong there Boze. The prosecutor would have to prove without a shadow of doubt that she was guilty. Not the other way around

[@Nurseypoo]

That brother is going to have to live the rest of his life knowing he could’ve done so much differently and his sister would’ve still been alive

[@realJenni]

im not a fighter but ive had friends who were very feisty and would get in heated physical altercations and sometimes be caught in the crossfire and i can confidently say that your mind gets clouded and you blink and its over. it all happens so fast you simply dont have time to think and i do believe in that split second given she was being aggressively approached pushed and looked like she was about to get physical putting her fists up (and in the moment when you live that moment it is extremely scary and threatening) she then actually got physical and i dont doubt for a second she just instinctively defended herself. i dont think she wanted to stab her let alone fatally and i do believe if she wasnt approached aggressively and hit in the face she wouldnt have stabbed her and she would likely still be alive today. im not victim blaming, she couldve stabbed her anywhere but the neck but again you dont have time to think you just do and if anything its a lesson to just not ever physically fight anyone over anything for you might just get stabbed or shot and youll always still be the aggressor in that scenario.

[@laurenreese7611]

So proud of your growth! Been watching for years now and it is awesome to see you succeed!! 🥰

[@universe514]

In those texts Bryanna literally says she’ll cut her “if she comes to my family’s house again” which doesn’t seem to me she was just looking to stab Halia for no reason. Clearly that girl kept bugging and trying to pick fights, even showing up to her house. And her brother was even there threatening to get involved, that’s a 2v1 with bigger people, they literally could have killed her. That’s why it’s self defense in my opinion. Halia F’d around and found out, why would she keep aggressing a person with a knife anyway?? Stupid kids thought they were gonna have an epic video of them beating her @$$ and now she’s dead, it’s so sad.

[@antiquesrestoration3874]

The defense does NOT "have to prove without a shadow of a doubt this was self defense." The state is the one that has the burden of proof...not the defense.

[@peppers05]

OMGG!!!! I'm so glad she uploaded after I had the most awful day ever, I'm so happyyyy!!!!

[@baegonia]

I hope your day gets better ❤

[@Panda-cute]

She got three years?? Wow. Should have been freed with no charges she did nothing wrong defending herself

[@DKF_oli]

im loving the turquoise background and the silver hair. lmfaooo it automatically puts this emoji are you kidding me !! 👩🏾‍🦳 love you boze thank you for the content as always

[@OeYama]

Their little "baby" is a 17 year old little monster who went to beat up another girl, while her brother threatened to join in if she defended herself. If sucks all around, but she clearly wanted to beat up Brianna. :/

[@Galactic_Orca]

I ain't ever seen two sane best friends

[@djaaron2426]

Poor girl... But when you mess with people threatening there well being things like this can absolutely happen😢

[@Kayla-c2e7c]

Not me putting boze on in the background while I take a nap and coming back to actually watch the video now x:

[@kristinavechinski7182]

I think that just because it was a neck stab doesn't mean it was planned or calculated. Someone can have knowledge of self-defense and know how to lash out once and just "stop it all." I think that only stabbing once instead of rage stabbing shows her self defense more than rage. Some people just know where to hit to get someone to back down or in this case, stop entirely. She could've just had a good opening due to the height difference and hand preference.