Ex-Hasidic Woman Shares Her Coming Out Story And How She Won Back Custody Of Her Kids | PeopleTV

[@fallen6667]

I’m so thankful she got her kids back.

[@mrsquishyboots]

Why is it not 50/50 custody? $$$

[@redlady935]

Yes. 5 years of the courts f**king with those poor children for nothing. It's heartbreaking

[@MightyJuan154]

When was it?

[@KJ-md2wj]

Reminds me of my ex telling me to keep my hands off her child upon his birth. Of course when it came to child support, it was mine. I wonder if this woman contributed financially when they were in his custody.

[@btbingo]

@Francis Augustine oh yes a woman who has children is the property of her male overlord. That is typical in every patriarchy. The children are really the property of the husband.

[@MELAFOG0406]

I am Jewish, not ultra orthodox and I “Get it”, My daughter married a “girl” and I like it and am a proud father. I could not be more happy that you found your way and will be a loving mother to your children.

[@nomdeplume2213]

Aw, you're obviously an amazing father. Your daughter is lucky to have you, as you're lucky to have her. She must be so proud that you're her dad ❤ Good job Pops!! Lol

[@fabiwilliams4644]

Yes how can you not love your children. I don't expect God demands our judgement & rejection of the imperfect. We live our own truth & simply do the best we can & hope for acceptance

What a disappointment I get censored when I talk about scripture as a Jew you k ow you are wrong

Ur a disgrace to your own religion

[@zaharfortruth.5206]

That's the problem with this world we run in the wrong direction then wonder Why we suffer later in life. "Listen to Yehovah or as the Jews call him Ha Shem which sounds crazy to me because that word only means the name.

[@ellioshiem7892]

Wow....what a brave intelligent lady. She is true to herself and everyone Around her. I admire her.

Wow what a prick of a woman you probably support non father households

[@ellioshiem7892]

@ no I don't . father s are important. especially for boys.

[@ellioshiem7892]

@ religions are all man made and written. don t call me rude names.

@@ellioshiem7892 I never did once call you a bad name and religious are for both men and women don’t rule out more then 50% of the population really if anything we are superior to you when i say we I mean men and when I say you I mean insignificance...

[@ellioshiem7892]

@ you did call me rude names and why am I insignificant....

[@ItaloRican7]

What a brave human being. It took courage to take the steps you did. Gorgeous intelligent young lady. Bravo!

Wow what a prick of a woman you probably support non father households

[@joancochran512]

What an amazing story -- and you're an amazing woman. Congrats on your persistence and success and in gaining custody of your children.

[@CanadianMonarchist]

She has very beautiful teeth.

[@OlgaMesh]

She looks like Chelsea Clinton.

[@bentleygt3716]

lol. these are CROWNS. not natural teeth. believe me i know so. that's what i do for a living.

[@Gesundheit888]

@@bentleygt3716 LOL, I meant she'd make a great HORSE. Darn auto spell check!!! lol

[@redlady935]

@@Gesundheit888 You're lovely. Spreading joy through the world then!

[@vblake530530]

Canadian Monarchist 1992 I feel better knowing I wasn’t the only one thinking that.

[@onetwo6765]

As an ex-orthodox myself, I identify with your story although mine is different. I know you are a strong woman and that you went through stuff that other people would have got broken from. my heart is with you and I wish you the most beautiful life.

[@TomTobin67]

The arranged marriage thing is barbaric.

[@TacShooter]

The arranged marriages I have met in orthodox Judaism (I am not Jewish) don't appear to agree with you.

[@II-be1ze]

Its NOT arranged marriage. It's an arranged meeting with a possible husband and if the girl doesn't like the hoy then no engagement takes place and she chooses someone she likes in her own time

[@SheitlQueen]

The girl is not forced to marry the man. They arrange to meet to see if they might be compatible. If not, they go their separate way.

[@dan-ho1zz]

Baya C it’s still not like a secular relationship where she gets 100% of a choice they only meet a few times

[@firstlast-qn1tz]

While some a fully arranged and they meet very few times before getting married, a lot of jews who have matchmakers choose if they like what the person they being matched with based on what they are told, if it sounds to them like a good match they will go out as many times as it takes to see if they are compatible to marry, otherwise they will break it up and start over

[@HeyLetsTalkAboutIt]

Your kids will be better off being raised by someone so open minded and true to herself. They should know it’s ok to be who they are and not to conform to the life they were born into.

[@AB-gn8oh]

This intelligent, articulate, honest lady has made the right decision for herself, and I’m glad she fought for her children. However, it’s not enough to say that children are resilient and adapt easily. Presumably, they still have to straddle two worlds, and I’m guessing that they have problems with people within the Orthodox community who want to influence negatively their relationships with their mother. We must never assume that our children are resilient and are managing; it’s not a child’s responsibility to navigate the world of adults. I can only hope they’re getting a lot of positive support from both of their parents.

[@tthinker9897]

This is the fallout of isolationist religious communities that force gay people to marry. So many people hurt - families feel betrayed, spouses feel betrayed, the gay person feels nearly suicidal and, finally, any children are in the midst of turbulent divorces and ex-spouses using them as pawns to create friction with the other parent. What a tragedy - and completely man-made. I understand how insular Hasidic Jews are, and some Christian communities (often cult-like), but even these groups need to awaken the reality that not everyone is created straight.

[@messianic_scam]

Too many hypocrite in this comment section

[@rebeccagutierrez1960]

Que confundida esta esta pobre mujer!!!😢

[@cheesecake134]

She was an adult and didn't even know what a lesbian was. People who keep their children so indoctrinated and insulated do nothing but harm them.

[@marierose214]

Carter Pewterschmidt what is a lesbian haha!

[@cheesecake134]

Your mom.

[@cheesecake134]

You certainly wouldn't have a pro-Orthodox Judaism bent to your argument, would you Orthodox Fox? Because I'm guessing you do. Yes obviously, because I suggested this naive and sheltered AMERICAN woman should have had enough access to health books and "the real world" to recognize her own sexuality, I believe the US should march into other countries to make them live the way we do. Good job on spotting that AND name dropping "white man's burden" like the pretentious college freshman that you are.

[@cheesecake134]

Would you please elaborate on how modern society is "pretty messed up"? We all have different ideas of what "messed up" looks like and I feel like yours would offer a lot of insight. Because you do see your own personal bias here, right? YES INSULARITY IS HARMFUL. It's not as if this woman, as a mature adult of sound mind, decided wanted to remove herself from modern society. She was born into blindness because her PARENTS and COMMUNITY decided it for her. And that is the very problem. She was not given the choice. That is brainwashing. Full stop. You just don't see it because of your own bias.

[@cheesecake134]

You seem to be offended that I criticized your religion and not others. This video was about an Orthodox woman, so my comment was about that particular faith. I'm so very sorry I didn't take the time to call other religions and groups of people that similarly isolate their followers. Clearly that's what you really wanted. I can agree with certain aspects of the world being "messed up", but a lot of your reasoning still seems to be biased. And honestly, the fact you hearken back to the 50s as some idyllic, safe landscape tells me you are A)white as fuck and male and B) completely naive and will believe anything your religion has told you. The "good ol' days" NEVER EXISTED and you can stop trying to get back to a magical time that never happened. The 1950s were prime Jim Crow years, and it was made sure that black people weren't allowed to lead a life as nice as whites. And a lot of white people used religion to justify their racism and the laws they enacted. The world was only "safe" if you were white. Also, if you need to see the detrimental effects of brainwashing and insularity, go watch literally any "I escaped a cult" documentary you can find. Read about the women who escaped the FLDS, read about people who have escaped the IBLP/Quiverfull movement. They ALL talk about how stifling, controlling, and insulated they were and how damaged they were after leaving. How they knew very little, often nothing at all, about the outside world and modern society. How they were often lied to about how evil the world really was and how bad outsiders really are. How they knew nothing of sex and relationships before being thrown into marriage and families of their own. There is a wealth of information that you just seem to want to turn a blind eye to. But clearly I'm trying to reason with someone who has been brainwashed by his religion and will continue to be brainwashed by his religion. You're in a cult, bud. I hope you've come to that realization by now.

[@monikachabior3543]

I know of a catholic lady who brought up her 4 children and came out when her husband died. She decided to move abrought to live the life she wanted to live. What a nightmare. Good that the times are changing and there are ways to get out of this super strict patriarchal rules. Well done Chavie! Good luck!

[@doreendaykin6693]

What a courageous woman to chose to live her authentic self in the midst of such adversity. I honour & respect her. She is a guiding light for many people.

[@photobloom]

Chavie is altogether lovely and admirable: brave, smart, articulate, determined, persistent. Of course, it is awful that she was forced to choose between her community and her sexual orientation. How appalling, too, that she was separated from her children for so long at the hands of a supposedly secular, reasonable, objective judiciary system. Due to her strength of character and wisdom, I feel certain that she will find fulfillment in her life and provide a wonderful role model for her very fortunate children. Mazel tov, Chavie!

[@zenodotusofathens2122]

Carol Bloom and why shouldn't the children be awarded to the father so that they could live in the community in which they are born and share in the values of their own extended family

[@photobloom]

First, what about joint custody? Second, why should living in their birth community and sharing values with their extended family supercede Chavie's right to raise her children and impart her values to them? Third, what about the children's right and need to have a close relationship with their mother?

[@sarahlippman7708]

Carol Bloom , would you advocate for ANY mother? An alcoholic, a drug abuser, a thief, a murderer?

[@photobloom]

Sarah, Since you compare Chavie to thieves and murderers, would you advocate that she be criminally prosecuted and jailed for being a lesbian? Clearly you disapprove, but in fact, the law in NY protects the civil rights of gay people. Sorry (not really).

[@sarahlippman7708]

Carol Bloom , let's start from saying that NY State's law is not "written in stone". People make mistakes, and history is full of those. In certain places the law was to kill elderly parents once they lost their first tooth. Or weak babies. As to the question of prosecution of homosexuals, read the Torah, and you will know the answer. But I know: for those born with imbalanced hormones it is a challenge from Above which they need to meet. Of course, it is a hard one, but hard challenges are given to strong people. Most of "gays" are normal human beings who just follow the trend, misguided by the perverted society. Alas!

[@stephaniedykes4157]

Thank you for your courage to live your truth. You are inspiring!

[@ellieisbusy]

We should all be allowed to be who we really are. I’m so glad she managed to do that.

[@laurenhahn890]

so eloquent and seems like a ray of sunshine. you are important and awesome!!

[@joer736]

As an Orthodox Jew I'm happy for her. It's simple be happy! I could careless about someone's sexual orientation. However, if your not happy, don't stay in any relationship!

[@sarahlippman7708]

Yosef , why would you call yourself Orthodox? What is the meaning of the expression "Orthodox Jew"?

[@JozieMaXine]

Yosef, are you on Google+? I would like to talk to you, if you don’t mind, because I’m very curious about some things.

[@yashuafly6342]

Yes ..cause that's what the bible teaches..? A double sided man is unstable in all his ways - james

[@joer736]

I don't think i do.. sorry.

[@AnOriginalYouTuber]

@@JozieMaXine nice try

[@simonebittencourt8251]

Congratulations! You are so incredibly brave! I hope you have a wonderful life! Your story is very inspirational. Thank you for sharing it!

[@Madelyn5454]

Congratulations on your winning custody of your children . You are beautiful and brave . Wishing you continued courage and happiness

[@Lina333pa]

Doesn't she look like Chelsea Clinton?

[@paultremblay4836]

Linsxx I see that too, they come from the same Brooklyn neighborhood. It's like a cultural meme

[@dahliaapollo7938]

Much prettier for sure who cares about her story

[@KatTheTruth]

Yes I thought the same!

[@paultremblay4836]

Dahlia Apollo Now we know Bill isn't the father. Hillary was a lawyer in New York, precisely around this community. I bet young Hilary banged both men and women while drunk, something accident happened. Chelsea is smarter than her mother by the way.

[@Spice99857]

yes!!!! I thought so too!!!!

[@siobhannolan3815]

I have been falling this girl story for you years I think she's amazing and I think she's going to be a great asset and helping other Hasidic women who want to leave that community we start a new life go find your happiness honey and just wait your kids will come home

[@simonebittencourt8251]

How great she got the custody of her kids and they will grow up learning to respect differences between people, not labeling them to the point of intolerance, prejudice, and oppression. Religion should be inclusive not promote hate and exclusion. Congratulations for being so articulate and brave. I wish you a wonderful life with your kids and the woman you love.

[@baldinamolino6577]

Congratulations on your freedom to be yourself! Your children should be honored to have a mother with both feet on the ground!

[@MDNT3M]

We need more Halkaline Jews to level the balance

[@messianic_scam]

Omg

[@jkreznik]

Good for you CHavie. It is so important that you are providing such a great role model to other women who are still fearful.

[@willowclay3137]

I'm proud of her for being honest and authentic. It's not easy in this sect for women.

[@bigspoon7984]

Never mind religion - women do not need a man to justify their feelings.

[@lvjuventus]

"women do not need a man to justify their feelings." But if it's another woman, then it's ok! Of course of course.

[@yadusolparterre]

Oh so the rabbi wasn't supposed to tell her she might be a lesbian? He was supposed to leave her in the dark when she came for help? OK, makes sense.

[@MrJpm1989]

I'm straight and I think you are amazing. Good for you !!!!

[@carolalgranati8177]

you are a brave, courageous, honest and beautiful woman

[@wsegen]

Chavie seems so together and clear. Thank you for this.

[@thelightcatalyst1088]

I am a former practing jew. I wonder what unconditional love is after her parents shunned her. Whatever, she’s happy now.

[@shirleytarrant8851]

Her family rather obey God than man

[@josephberger5613]

She is a very articulate, beautiful young woman, but as some wiser people have pointed out, there is almost certainly a lot more to the story. Let's put aside the question of her sexual/romantic preference for the moment, and just consider any young Beis Yaakov/Charedi young woman of 18 letting herself be pushed into a shidduch/arranged marriage, and finding a few years later and more mature, especially after having three young children, that in fact she and her husband don't get along, and even that the antipathy is mutual, that he is not crazy about her any more. So they get divorced, which may be a very sensible solution rather than live another 50 or 60 years of misery and frustration together - assuming that joint therapy didn't help. In such a situation the woman would probably not have lost the children, and at the very least would have had a shared-parenting judgement. As in so many other areas of life, there are supportive parents and non-supportive parents, there are sensible judges and there are idiots. What did impress me was that she seemed to suggest that the Chassidic therapist was actually very accepting and supportive, which is how any good therapist is. Listening, helping the patient work through the problem, and being non-judgemental. If the therapist cannot accept who the patient is or their lifestyle or their behaviour, then refer the patient to someone else who can be empathic.

[@susannahhart3946]

Joseph Berger Well said!! ❤️

[@bodoorgeest]

It's not a sexual preference, a preference indicates that there is a choice.. There is no choice, she's a lesbian.

[@ag-cs4gd]

It seems like many Haredi women lose custody of their children if they try to leave their husbands, the vast majority of whom are straight --

[@gulfbaby230]

“Letting herself be pushed” in to this marriage???? You say that like she had a choice. Most of the women in this community lose their children when they leave their husbands, whether they are gay or straight. Even if the woman has lived with years of abuse from the husband. This community has attorneys that know how to beat the system. When these women try to leave they are penniless, uneducated, and usually unemployed (exactly how they are raised to be). They don’t stand a chance against this system. And because of the “status quo” rule the children are almost always given back to the father.

[@seerpou]

@@gulfbaby230 exactly.

[@chavac3058]

Can I just make it known that this is just her story with her family and her community. As a Jewish orthodox girl I will be allowed to choose my husband,my job,my future. Please don't judge Judaism with one bad story.

[@lauraz2896]

Chava C I think that it’s a pretty common story. I’ve read many books on the subject.

[@eliper4823]

@@lauraz2896 no... its only Hasidic... not regular orthodox... Hasidim make their own communities in their own bubble away from the secular world... Orthodox are regular jews who keep everything but are brought up and live in the secular world (think Ben Shapiro).

[@my2cents49]

Only one in 10 Orthodox Jewish relationships end in divorce and they have fewer restrictions on divorce than both the Christian Bible and Islam. There are several stories out there because they make good TV and people like to talk crap about Jews. But even in Chadidism it's not like this is a rampant problem. But most people have no exposure to this culture so they don't know that. They just believe whatever they stick in the video without checking it. The reason she's on TV is because she is an exception. If it was normal there would be no need to put it on television because it would be something that everybody knew about that happens all the time. And the families are not allowed to pick a spouse for the person. Just like any young girl, a lot of these people get involved in relationships way too soon without thinking about what they're doing first. Except that instead of sleeping around and getting pregnant by some guy that leaves in a few months (as our relationships tend to do with over 50% divorce rate and multiple sex partners) they get married to the guy and divorce later. So the situation is the same thing you see in young relationships all across the West, just painted with a different color brush. I know several Hasidic families in the area and have gotten to be acquainted with the culture. This is not some kind of oppressive normal fact of life for these girls. Only the ones who put themselves in that situation by jumping in when they are not ready and have the ability to say no

[@aharonlandau2231]

LifeIsWhatYouMakeIt at least someone reads & sees & uses his brain before he judges right from wrong !

[@Spearsy1995]

Family courts in America need to get their act together!

[@nathanas64]

Very interesting ! I can sympathize with both sides but this is certain. 1. This young lady deserves to be happy with her identity. 2. Hopefully her family and community continue to love her and accept her for what she is.

[@ssbmouse6471]

Amazing story, I am so glad you got your children back. You must really love them to work so hard to get custody

[@messianic_scam]

she doesn't care about her kids

[@juniorjimenez6381]

Wow. Clavie is so strong. Love her journey and truth.

[@gulfbaby230]

You are incredibly brave. Thank you for sharing your story !!

[@laurae2489]

Good for her. What an incredibly brave lady.

[@elliotdavis5039]

very very bad for her more like

[@CathyKitson]

Elliot Davis How? Why should she stay with her husband if she was so unhappy?

[@elliotdavis5039]

because if she would do what she is meant to do she would be happy. she is acting like a 2 year old kid grow up and shape up that is what you would say to a man so she is no different!

[@CathyKitson]

Elliot Davis Yes, I agree you should treat a woman the same as a man, but I'd tell a man to get out of a marriage if he was desperately miserable, as well. Why is getting out of a terrible situation childish? Is it that you want her to be wretched for the rest of her life?

[@elliotdavis5039]

Jane Doe No your mum and dad are a cult more like!

[@danahilary27]

Wish you the best on your path , so relieved you had support to get your children back . And can only imagine the trauma of rejection of your community, job and court ...You appear very strong and wise ..and hope it's only up from here

[@fargo007]

Regardless you have to acknowledge that we're hearing a strong Jewish woman speak here.

[@Lisacrazed]

Gabie Szanto she is very strong

[@gabieszanto1636]

@@Lisacrazed from my point of view she is very weak

[@dpcisunbreakable]

@@gabieszanto1636 and in your own words using your own experience, how would you define strong?

[@kairuannewambui8456]

@@gabieszanto1636 let God be judge of that. And you sister should be praying for her..are you jewish What does the 613 law say regarding our sisters.and brothers.? God bless

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

I am glad you managed to get custody of your children ... losing custody is one of the worse things for most men

[@tombohon6280]

Wishing this strong, vibrant lady a wonderful life with her children.

[@laurasantoscapilla9701]

WoW!! You're a very strong and brave woman!!! Congratulations and greetings from Spain 🤗👏👏👏👏👏

[@laurieberry4814]

I used to be a religious Jewish kid. My girlfriend told me if I didn’t talk to boys, people would tell me that I am a snob. I like people. Men and women are attractive. I feel like asexual because I don’t think that I ever wanted to get physically intimate with anyone. My friend and I made a joke about this dream that I had about this Iranian man who was really old. She said that I may like people with white hats because it was the ayatollah. I was eleven. I had a boyfriend. We weren’t romantic. After being alive for so long, I realize that I am not jealous and I can take rejection easier than others. I love my asexuality and people in a different way.

[@paularobertsroberts5883]

I’m very proud she’s finding her happiness and enjoying her life in this crazy world. Very brave!

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

A father that decides for her daughter whom she should marry : that the surest recipe for disaster and unhappiness.

[@eitanbenzion7522]

BlueEyes Brittany Yes? And what about all the thousands of years that father's decided to their girls? I think everybody lived ok. The number of people divorce was a LOT smaller and people were more loyal to their partner. +Women didn't dress like whores.

[@mermaid30019]

It has a higher survival rate because they are brainwashed. They live in fear of dishonoring their parents. No joy, spending life never knowing who you truly are, what your true purpose here on earth is...sounds like a great life

[@Lunatic4Bizcas]

Eltan Prian-Ben Zion: Wow.....Your statement is exemplary of the masogyny prevalent in certain religions and especially prevalent in the Abrahamic faiths. Furthermore, your statement is very assuming and exudes the sort of shallow smugness prevalent among the judgemental and narrow minded faithful who claim some sort of absolutist ideology. What's more; the Abrahamic concoction of the one Deity--'G-D' is a condescending, authoritarian and vindictive universal dictator who exemplifies some of the worse aspects of humanity, being a figure who lures humans to follow him through a sense of fear. I'll even go further to say that the historic Abraham is in my opinion one of the most opportunistic, self serving, manipulative and antagonistic figures in all of human history.

[@Lunatic4Bizcas]

+Alex Charalampidis: I agree with you, but in western societies, any criticism of Judaism is met with derision, suspicion, hostility and accusations of 'anti-semitism.' It's basically socially unacceptable and even contemptible to point out any perceived flaws and incompatibility with western values in regard to Judaism, but any signalling of these same issues in Islam has been fine and substantiated in the west until relatively recently. The same worrisome traits are reinforced and present in contemporary zionist christian faiths such as Mormonism, Fundamental Mormonism, Evangelical Fundamentalism (of the Hillsborough Baptist variety), in addition to other repressive faiths rife with group think and forcible conformity like The Jehovah's Witnesses. Any objective criticism of those faiths is also met accusations of bigotry and religious intolerance etc.

[@mlbatemory]

No, you ninny, a woman that decides for herself whom she should marry : now THAT is the surest recipe for disaster and unhappiness.

[@lesliecarleton4507]

There were about a thousand violations of her first amendment rights in this situation. This story is jaw dropping

[@sarahlippman7708]

Leslie Carleton , first amendment, as well as the whole constitution, is not "written in stone ". People, EVEN AMERICANS, sometimes make mistakes. Only G -d doesn't.

[@TheScrowlingFender7]

The US is a theocracy. The Republicans run the courts and have for decades.

[@omg-bh4pg]

Not even ONE!!

[@humancomputerinteraction8237]

The government never threatened to imprison her or actually imprisoned her. Her first amendment rights were never violated.

[@caperusa1925]

Divorce and custody is always a touchy and sensitive matter but add to it an orthodox religion like being Hasidic Jewish & homosexuality where it is not tolerated I cannot imagine what they went through

[@Stormstorm1]

So happy for this strong, beautiful soul! I bet she is a fabulous mother!

[@silverbushb448]

She's very pretty.

[@AngelGirl2482]

You are what you are. When a society, trying to dictate your life and trying to changes you for what you are not. Then it's time for you to seek an answer to your happiness. Life is too short.! Do whatever it takes to make you feel content and happy. Best of luck.

[@messianic_scam]

Bullshit

[@MrMikeTauber]

She is a great example of a strong mom, her children are so lucky to have her raising them. This is a great story of success and overcoming challenges. Very inspiring to us all.

[@fabiwilliams4644]

Isn't it illegal for the courts to be so biased? They're supposed to represent equal rights for all citizens & not dictate how someone should dress & present themselves for a specific religious community

[@megansalt]

congrats, you are really emotionally strong! I'm glad you are free now. the treatment you received from your family and the court would have driven me to extremely deep depression. PS- you're incredibly articulate and have a beautiful smile!

[@nomdeplume2213]

Omg, yoirr absolutely gorgeous! And so articulate! I think im in love lol Edit: i am so glad you got your babies back! They must be so proud of having such an amazingly brave mother who has the courage to be herself and to be happy.

[@bayareababe]

Oh wow. Your so sweet. It’s so sweet to see there’s people left in the world who know what real love is. Man or woman.

[@naedatanner8832]

Knowledge is power!

[@deeptime5581]

Good for you. I went through it myself but fortunately I left the orthodox community in my 20's and have never looked back, happily.

[@whiterose1828]

She is so darn sweet

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

The sad thing about religions is that most failed to produce men that were faithful; kind and who treated women properly. In addition they have been the cause of so many wars and women have suffered so much because of them. The day a religion produces people who are good and stay good because this will only be the way to put an end to wars, violence, economic disparity, exploitation, abuse of all sorts, I will convert. We should only give the Nobel prise to people that have showed through their life that they treated people well whether in the marriage/family circles or in the public space while striving to find ways to alleviate and even put an end to poverty, extreme economic disparities, violence and many other things that are adversely affecting the world. That is the only religion we should also have.

[@alk158]

The thing is by the way if a man left the community and complained he would likely be treated badly as well and lose the children. It really is beyond Gender and it is sad that people see this in such a Misandrist way. Many of the men in some of these communities are not allowed to work and are controlled even more then the women are.

[@eitanbenzion7522]

BlueEyes Brittany I'm so glad Judaism isn't like all of them. All other are fake. I don't know why this idiotic woman left her family. Women always think they deserve to be treated like queens. Some much selfishness. I wish her a long and pain life.

[@alk158]

Your misogyny is really nasty. Actually religious Judaism today is very similar to other organized religious groups. It isn't just women though. Men are not allowed to disagree with the Rabbis either. And some of the idea's in religious Judaism today is about not appreciating the contribution of men some who were not Jewish. Considering turning a light on as "work" when the invention is already completed and all your doing is pushing a switch is a good example of this. They should appreciate inventions like those of Edison not consider it somehow unholy to use technology on the Sabbath even when the act clearly is not "work".

[@alk158]

I'm just going to two points of your rant which as I said it isn't just women (as your rant shows) who face problems if they disagree with the Rabbis or anything that goes on in their self imposed ghetto. Eiton wrote>Second, normal Jews aren't allowed to disagree with rabbis.< Most Israeli's don't follow everything the Rabbis claim and no Israeli PM agrees with everything the Rabbis say. Menachim Begin didn't and he was the most religious of the Prime Ministers of Israel. >Regarding the Sabbath you wrote. >We are not allowed to do them because they are crafts, < Are you serious!!! Turning on a switch to you is a craft. I don't think it is a craft to push a switch. Maybe making the circuit in the first place is a craft but any idiot can push a light switch. It isn't a craft of any sort and to think it is sends the wrong message of course that somehow you made the invention when of course you didn't.

[@Lunatic4Bizcas]

Eitan Prian-Ben Zion: It's easy for the religiously pious to ignore, deny or be outright blind to unpleasant or disconcerting aspects about the particular faith they adhere to. Your absolutist statement of 'We have never murdered people like Christians and muslims. NEVER" is utterly unconvincing and an easily refutable statement. First off, there was the command given in the Torah by YHWH or Hashem to annihilate the nations of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, the Perizzites and the Hivites (Names used are in the English version of the Bible) without sparing anything in those nations as dictated in the Book of Deuteronomy. I'm sorry, but in my estimation, that is considered Deity sanctioned genocide. What about the murder of Shimon Peres by a radical 'extremist' jew? Of course collectively speaking 'we' as in the Jewish people have not murdered, but there are plenty of instances where Jews have murdered. No different that Christians or Muslims, who as a whole haven't murdered, but where cases and historical examples abound of murders and atrocities being committed by the aforementioned. In any case, according to most historians, Zoroastrianism is the first monotheistic faith recorded in human history and that originated in what today is Iran. In any case, as I see it, Judaism is the root faith of Abrahamic religion, which has wrought more misery and conflict upon humanity than any other sort of ideology except perhaps communism, which was conjured by an ethnic jew and initally carried out and financed in Eastern Europe by influential Jews in positions of governance just like you yourself acknowledged in your statement. Furthermore, the notion that the whole world revolves around your nation or people is a narcissistic, dangerous and delusional view of your own people in relation to the rest of humanity.

[@tthinker9897]

Unfortunately, this same story is repeated in almost every conservative religious community. If you're straight and fit the mold of the community and their beliefs, it can be a truly wonderful and fulfilling life. But for gay people (round pegs in square holes) these communities try to force us into a life we can't genuinely live without extreme emotional pain and depression. It seems so hard for straight people to comprehend that God's creation is wonderfully varied, and not everyone can fall in love with someone of the opposite gender. I am quite serious when I say that if I were ever forced into bed with a woman (I'm a man) I would not only be in panic mode, I would be physically ill. Conservatives Christians tried to coerce me into a heterosexual relationship, but whenever a female became amorous I would have a sever panic attack; what an injustice to me, and to some wonderful woman, to be in a loveless relationship - we both deserve to know and have real love.

[@annaswanson5903]

Great story!!

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

I am glad she gained custody of her children

[@Samimran232]

She didn’t know what is lesbian but but her Rabbi knows what lesbian is .. strange 😂

[@19samson32]

There is no greater freedom than being free! Welcome.

[@trudetonning8613]

Lucky children to have a mum like that ❤

[@veggiebea]

She is wonderful and so strong 💜

[@JoyJoy-pp2bf]

You can always return to God never give up

[@susansmith493]

No one, mother or father, should lose custody unless there is 100% proven in court, rampant neglect or abuse. Parents, both, lose custody and visitation every day over lies told by the other parent or in this instance, outdated and false religious beliefs. Any mother or father who employs parent alienation to keep children from seeing the other parent is themselves guilty of child abuse. Mothers and fathers from all walks of life do this all the time and it's truly evil and detrimental to their children.

[@messianic_scam]

bullshit

[@marilynringel9228]

So sorry what you went through I hope you have a happy life

[@j.p.9423]

Wonderful story. Very glad it worked out.

[@andrear7181]

I understand you were married for the wrong reasons, but your former husband is not responsable of this situation either. I guess to was kind of forced into this union too. Having said this, he has the same right as you do to determine what kind of education he wants for his children. You don´t get to determine on your own how you want to be raised, the father has a right to be heard too. I listen to you tak about you and how You want to raise the kids, sorry, but they have a father too that has his say.

[@chrisresendes2125]

andrea R, funny thing is, that rabbinical religious law would agree with you.

[@andrear7181]

Really? I don´t know a thing about rabinical laws, what I said is about equality and justice to both parts. I insist, this couple should have never been married, but since they have kids, they both have a say in the way they want to raise the children.

[@connieleslie9076]

While they were married the former husband determined how the children were raised. And for five years he had sole custody, determining how they were raised. It is now her time to raise them, yes?

[@chrisresendes2125]

andrea R, traditionally speaking we can all be sure that we know who the mother is. while knowing whom the father is, is a different story. this cultural bias is still alive today, and may contribute to the mothers always getting more say, and more custody..usually.

[@andrear7181]

Jason: I don´t take orders anyone and I debate who ever I want. As a rule, I don´t debate people who use language full of profanity. Who cares what I am, or where I live. What is important is what I think. I don´t play identity politics. But if you read my post before, you would assume I am not muslim....a muslim husband would have beat the shit or get her stonned to death for been a lesbian, this of course is insane and against due process of law, equality before the law and rationality on criminal law. I wil say one thing....I am a lawyer. And in order to solve a custody case, you have to hear both versions of the story to solve the case. So, the facts here, as far as we know from her statement ( we don´t hear from the husband) are: 1. She was forced to be married. I assume this goes for the husband too. 2. They have kids. 3. Turns out to be a lesbian. She gets divorced. 4.She decides she will live with her children on her own terms. I assume from this she has not asked the husband what he thinks about this. 5. She looses custody on the grounds that the court was "conservative". Sorry , that is not an argument. Need more information about the grounds of the decission of the court. 6. She appeals, she wins and lives with her kids in an LGBTQ+ community style. Doesn´t say when the father gets to see the kids or under what terms or if he pays the pension. I think she has a problem with the religion she was raised in, this creates problems with her husband. But I don´t hear from her that the husband did not misstreated her, beat her or did not take care of his family. You may assume he was mad when he heard she was goingo to take the kids to LGBTQ groups. . Well, hello!!! What did you expect? A Hallmark congratulations card? This has happened to other men too: they get married with a woman thinking she is strait, they have kids, then she comes out as a lesbian, wants the custody of the kids. I don´t know, but If I was this guys I would feel used....ok, she is a lesbian, , she gets the kids, and BYE, BYE!!!!! Some lawyers would call this spearm fraud. Justice has to be for both.

[@warrendoe2164]

Good for you, I hope you have a wonderful life with your children. All of uS religious or not, have to discover our deepest authentic self and follower it.

[@ted1091]

Very powerful story. Courageous young woman

[@cesaruribe3699]

I would love to see a film with this story line

[@michaelserebreny454]

I see a lot of people in the comments section being extremely critical of the "arranged marriage;" and suggesting Mayim Bialik play this person in a film. If anyone is interested in how these arrangements ACTUALLY go - this is pretty accurate. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2O0nYp8iMael68 Marriage arrangements are optional, the matchmaker is optional, and usually offered as a paid service. The woman in question is in full control and allowed to say "no."

[@lailonnib]

I’m surprised she got her children back 🙏🏾

[@VisionaryTribe]

Beautiful lady and beautiful story, can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been growing up in such a conservative community

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

It is good you found support in your trouble and choosing your life.

[@Doginthecity1]

What beautiful person....So pleased she managing to enjoy life and have custody of her children whom will also have a better future......People's RIGHTS...........Religions proving again to be bad for the human race.

[@halinkap5217]

Iam not approving any religious percecutions. BUT Atheism is a religion too: those people believe that there is no God. They showed themselves the most horrifying human beings, look at history of communist China, the USSR and so on..

[@manhattanBridge]

I went threw similar journey, left the Hasidic ultra orthodox community, and as a result of that I lost custody of my children and lost my business, which was in the community. As I turned to this Non-profit group which Chavie works for called “Footsteps” which is the only major organization to help people who left the community. And they denied any help what so ever. They pick who they wanna help. There is a sort of “selection” mostly they pick like someone who is gay or queer. Footsteps is not there to help everyone who leaves the ultra-Orthodox community. Unfortunately, that’s the truth! Eventually my oldest kids followed my footsteps and left the community as well, they didn't have any friends, only in the community, and they wanted to meet like minded people who left the community I knew chavie personally, I asked her many times for help. She was nice, but kind of never got back to me... Unfortunately that's the truth! I went around to other people who left and a lot of them say they felt the same way!

[@cherylmersand1077]

You are so brave

[@beller8501]

orthodox and sexuality dont go together.you are a mom a beautiful one.

[@alezandradavila2581]

Fascinating

[@shazzaleone6288]

Chavie, you go girlfren! So proud of you to bravely live as you see fit.I do feel for you, being shunned by your community and family.They just gotta understand that no one else should decide for you, what makes you happy.You stick to your guns, hunny.We are with you all the way 😊

[@misterbonzoid]

So pleased for you, intelligent, beautiful, strong woman.

[@hellolater4181]

Ty very much

[@rodayodryve7998]

Look, you are a lovely person and do not EVER forget that. This is a country free of religious persecution and the way I see it as an American, as you are, you were persecuted against. Let the Hasidic (I have had several encounters with Israelis and I know what most of them think of that group = not good) move away from America, they are a mere small group of people who "think" they are above the law of this country and THEY are not. I am not an anti-semite, but there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why there is any court in this country that should shun you away from your children. They are YOUR kids as much as your husbands. If your peeps don't like it, move to Israel. We are not a mono religious nation. Best of wishes to a beautiful, intelligent, woman as you are. Be strong and do NOT ever forget that. You are not alone and never let any religious faction determine where you fit, nor who you are. XOXOXOXO stay strong.

[@leafyrivers2888]

obviously you are only seeing and hearing one side . i was there i know she was not persecuted, so why do you keep your “not good” comments in a less judgmental way seeing as they are anti semitic, judgmentally incorrect, and ABSOLUTELY inaccurate.

[@billybergendahl3515]

She seems like a lovely and intelligent person.

[@tomsmith8781]

you're a child of the universe....you go girl!

[@TacShooter]

Video length is 6:13

[@iamfabulous7670]

I love the honesty Chevie has when explaining her story, and I am sending her many blessings.

[@TOP13-k6k]

I have a orthodox friend and she definitely now's what a lesbian is she is well educated and is getting her degree and she definitely has a choice off when and who to marry

[@humancomputerinteraction8237]

Yes, thankfully orthodox and hasidic are different.

[@semperfidelis6235]

I always say, it is what it is..... you cannot force someone to be straight if they feel they are gay or whatever else they feel. I think there are more awesome parents who are gay that do a better job then a straight mother or even a straight couple. She is courageous and a fighter!

[@messianic_scam]

don't believe this liberal lgbt agenda I bet she isn't even lesbian

[@enigmatube6946]

i love chavie, she went through hell, and was resiliant and still amazing, orthodox jews live in the 5th century, & i'm glad she is free!

[@TacShooter]

That's a lie. Chabadniks use computers, smartphones, electronic keyboards, etc.

[@user-sp6os6tc2r]

Jesus Christ you're anti-Semitic.

[@Chanie787878]

You must be kidding. I'm Orthodox. I have a Master's degree & I am currently using my laptop. :) I'm no better or worse than anyone else, and I'm happy to live in 2020, not sheltered or insulated.

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

Just because you are single and do not feel secure with most men does not equal that one is an homosexual woman .. it just means that you are aware of what is going on and the risks and choose to have a safe life

[@JesusWantsU]

Loving a same-sex person as a young person does not equal homosexual. What a lame "therapist".

[@elitesflowers-floristshop.3616]

Wow! You are so brave! I really admire you. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻