Ex Tory Minister Paul Scully Makes Fool Of Himself On NewsNight!

[@donincognito189]

"We blew our brains out but some of our blood splattered over the EU - so it's a win-win" 🙄

[@petulaegharevba7780]

😢😢😢

[@lloydbelle3406]

A perfect anology!! 😂

[@naseeha101]

😂

[@lochnessspeedwerkz6557]

Inadvertently admitting they pushed brexit to help pootin.

[@anonymoushuman8962]

lol 😂😂😂😂😂

[@russellbaston974]

We've s**t our pants but it's ok, as other people have to put up with the smell.

[@astree214]

very nice summary, it's exactly what we always hear from the breakshiters 🤪

[@robtyman4281]

Great analogy! hahaha 🤣

[@jeffmunkynutz1568]

@russellbaston974 You're right, it would be so much better with two people wearing the same sh!tty pants. 🤦🏼 How does this analogy work exactly?

[@polyvg]

Sounds like the USA election...

[@robtyman4281]

@@jeffmunkynutz1568 Er, you work it out for yourself. He doesn't need to explain things. Brexit is bar far the biggest s**t we've got ourselves in. That's all you need to know.

[@Justinian-IV]

UK have inflicted the same about of damage on the EU as a cyclist crashing into a HGV.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Some businesses have been damaged but damaging your main customer is daft as flick

[@Alphadog1174]

Do you know how much paint you can scratch as a cyclist? Not a Lot! Not a Lot!!

[@BrianCharlesThomas-dp9du]

Exactly!

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

Do you own a bike as i have an H.G.V, licence ,just saying .

[@Richard1A2B]

​@@julianshepherd2038name some of the businesses damaged?... we generally found new customers elsewhere in the EU.

[@chattyrat3354]

I used to buy online from GB. No longer. My online purchases now come from France and Germany -no customs charges or complications

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Same here, don't buy British,

[@octavianpopescu4776]

I know. I almost made the mistake to order something off of Amazon UK. Thankfully, I found the same books on Amazon Germany or for Kindle, I'm getting my books from Amazon US.

[@cormackeenan8175]

I’m exactly the same and everybody I know is doing the same

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

i buy from china.

[@starmersbarber]

This is interesting info chattyrat. Where do you live by the way? This makes me so frustrated to be British (although I am proud to be Scottish!)

[@ERobbins1234]

The average person who voted for Brexit knows nothing about trade issues.

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

they destroyed their own country and still call themselves patriots hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

@@supremeworld87 im irish with an irish passport whos crying now oswald like ur hero tiny tommy 10 names with his irish passport you poor mug.

[@williampatrickfagan7590]

Or how the European Union operates. If they did, they would ot have googled What is the European Union the day of the result

[@edeledeledel5490]

They just didn't like the idea of foreigners, let alone giving them £350 million a week. How ignorant can you be? As ignorant as a Brexiteer. We get a 4% hit - so do the rest of Europe, maybe, but their hit is spread over 450 million people, rather than 67 million, it's about 0.6%

[@danielhemmings-wi4dq]

It just goes to show how stupid Brexiteers are - if this guy is a supposed 'higher up' who is put up on Newsnight to talk about this stuff... Then what about the rest? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@timeoftheyear5230]

Why do they hate the EU so much. When I travel to the EU I'm always amazed how fabulous it is.

[@lochnessspeedwerkz6557]

Just ask yourself, who benefits the most from weakening the EU and NATO. Then Trump and Brexit really start to make sense.

[@Dreyno]

Ignorant, petty, childish, vainglorious, bellicose, triumphalist, jingoistic, xenophobes. Basically.

[@TB-vm9yr]

Little Britain Jelousy

[@nihaoulouloulou3982]

Have you read "the prince" from Machiavelli ? There is a chapter about the papal states and their roles in preventing any italian unification effort. Summarized it comes down to this. They were too weak to unite Italy themselves, therefore they made sure no one else could do it either.

[@Dreyno]

@@nihaoulouloulou3982 As somebody once said, Britain could never be a member of a club it wasn’t at the head of. Similar sentiment.

[@pieterzuiddam]

Why do these brexiteers always state that now they can have trade with Asia. Trading with Asia was always an option, also when the UK was still in the EU!

[@rogerk6180]

Every eu country trades a lot with asia.

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

Sot the EU can trade with us ,if were outside of its over zealous control ,so what exactly is your point .

[@cynic252]

@@user-zi7ep9jz1d lover zealouys ...that is very funny

[@tommypicklez8285]

@@user-zi7ep9jz1dthat the trade with the EU was cheaper, faster, more efficient, and we were still able to trade with Asia 😂

[@Betleyman7853]

The assumption that we can only trade "freely" with other trading blocks by being outside the EU is farcical.

[@russmarkham2197]

yes, very well said. Brexit is based on lies upon lies. And that is one of the porkiest.

[@23879988]

The average person who voted for Brexit do not know anything about anything.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Ain't THAT the truth. Too many working class people are ROOTED to the spot and would never have made use of Freedom of Movement, and EVEN voted to imprison their descendants on post-industrial, decaying Prison Island 🏝️🇬🇧. The UK would never have had an industrial revolution if agricultural workers hadn't moved to the cities, where the work was (then 😢).

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

Not to accept a democratic result shows a perverse and childish nature, BOO ,BOO ,BOO .

[@andrewrobinson2565]

@@user-zi7ep9jz1d ...in an advisory referendum...never left the EU 🇨🇵🇪🇺🤣.

[@alandillon968]

​​​@@user-zi7ep9jz1d Democratic? Really! It's been proven time and time again they lied, exaggerated, misinformed and used money illegally for the campaign. Furthermore, the Conservatives allowed immigrants bourn in other countries to vote on 16 july 2016 who own duel pass ports, but at the same time, refused the vote and thereby disenfranchised the British bourn voters with British Pass Ports from voting on it. The Conservatives argued, because they resided in European or elsewhere they shouldn't get to vote, even though the result would still effect them directly. Yet, as a bigger slap across that democracy, then allowed Territories like Gibralterians the vote. Most of whome have never been to Britain and many are of Spanish decent. One of the reasons why Brexit was successful was as a result of the Palastinians, Bangladesh Asians voting fir Brexit to get their relatives into Britain, and how? Thatcher in agreement with Schengler and EU had given priority to EU citizens. This changed the rules on Commonwealth citizens having the right to come to Britain, which Thatcher changed in line with the EU requirements. With Brexit, it gave the green light for Commenwealth countries to enter. The Asians realised they could at last get their relatives and families to come to Britain after all. They are now coming in boats across the English Channel, that's why you hear journalists and commentators telling British viewers, "they want to come to Britain because they have family and friends here." "They speak English ...etc". Even Gove, Farage, Johnson. Ian Duncan Smith, all said, when asked, "Where would we recruit from to do these jobs the EU citizens did"? Farage said, "from the rest of the world." Well other than colonised countries in the Commonwealth, there all NON WHITE! Others said, " we can recruit from our friends in the Commonwealth." The Commonwealth or Empire are all NON WHITE. Austrailia, New Zealand. Canada and South Africa are prosperous, others, other than the odd student doing a bit of travel, they wont come here. Alternatively, the dominantly Black, Asians counyries in the Commonwealth are looking to get out of poverty are desperate to get into the UK. Brexit has caused the flow of immigrants coming across in boats. Someone needs to tell Farage that except for Europe and Europeans, the rest of the world are different shades of blacks and browns and less well educated. When he said, " the rest of the world," he was sending the message out, they would be welcomed in Britain. You have the audacity to call it democracy. Boo hoo back at yeah, for consider any of this as democratic!!!

[@russmarkham2197]

@@user-zi7ep9jz1d not to question any decision, especially one so flawed as Brexit, shows that this comment about Brexit supporters is 100% correct. As for the referendum process it was also deeply corrupt. The only benefit goes to Russia. Congrats on being a Putin supporter

[@richardsinger01]

He was my MP. Thoroughly unimpressed with his voting history in parliament. He stood down before he was ousted by the electorate. Delighted he's out of parliament.

[@iforwilliams2509]

Another thick English politician.

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

No abuse please ,we have manners.

[@kennethhodges3187]

Weaker and Poorer that is what leaving the EU has done to this country!

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

Sound's like Charles Dickens .Bleak House ,i just love your pessimistic doom riden gloom.Good work .

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Meanwhile the EU just keeps chugging along. At worst a few small businesses were mildly inconvenienced for a short time - at best, UK just convinced every other EU country to not do their own Brexit any time soon.

[@tedmaul5842]

Well the Irish company, founded in London that I work for, has just massively expanded it's steel fabrication facilities outside Dublin. So the harm has been done to our UK facilities, not EU. There's a reason Scully is an ex mp and failed as a London mayoral candidate. Notice how the rhetoric is always about other people suffering, as though that's a positive bonus of Brexit.

[@JohnPark-xf2gq]

Typho not murder but mulder.xfiles fame.

[@iiredeyeiiredeye1569]

What's the name of the company mate? I'm a skilled welder/fab, sick of this place. Would love the opportunity to get back into the EU via beautiful Ireland.

[@tedmaul5842]

@@iiredeyeiiredeye1569 - The Murphy Group in the UK and Murphy International in Ireland.

[@Richard1A2B]

Yep, nice neighbours... it's amusing that they are the only ones in Europe still banging on about brexit... the rest of us adjusted and moved on.

[@starmersbarber]

He was a minister for 10 bloody months...how does that represent credentials to assess anything?!!!!

[@kierandoran8196]

And he lost his seat.

[@thesmallerhalf1968]

Scully’s view is like saying of the Titanic disaster, well the Titanic did sink but it tore chunks out that pesky iceberg.

[@johnrussell3961]

Harmed the EU? What we lost went to the EU. Eurotrading for example. It’s now a very hard sell to get back in. Why would any EU member give the gains back?

[@MaRi-Br1984]

What’s more is that the whole time governments in the eu were doing austerity it was because of the ecb and the euro, the UK did not have that problem, which means they had the freedom all along to better fiscally rescue their economy and they did nothing, because again the austerity measures is their “normal” way to do business, always undercutting the British people as a whole for the benefit of special interests only.

[@mandycouchbean]

Stupidest rationale for staying out of the EU.! 🤦‍♀️

[@johnstuart7244]

We have been hurt by Brexit, but that's okay as we hurt other people. Is that what its all about? Causing each other economic pain? What an absolute cringing moron. This idiot was a minister? What a state of affairs.

[@derekmulready1523]

The docudrama "Yes Minister/Prime Minister" touched on this very subject. 🇮🇪🇪🇺

[@geoffpegler4506]

​@derekmulready1523 a brilliant, humorous & educational show. Old but still so relevant. Everybody should watch this series.

[@gymjunke1]

@@derekmulready1523 Yes Minister/ Yes Prime Minister . It was not a docudrama. it was billed by the makers ( BBC ) as a comedy and brilliantly displays what a gang of clowns the Brexit supporters were !!

[@markwelch3564]

​@gymjunke1 it's correct to say it's not a docudrama They had to tone the weirdness down from reality because the reality was too weird for casual viewers to believe

[@br5380]

Whenever anyone parrots the "other countries have lots of opportunities" line they should be reminded that us being in the EU didn't stop us going after these opportunities! I for one have worked right across the world for UK companies, on every continent (except Antarctica 🙂) , and us being in the EU was never a problem.

[@verystripeyzebra]

You just needed to believe that it was a problem more. Typical remoaner.

[@GorgeDawes]

It boils my piss that people are still parroting this stupid talking point. How exactly did being in the EU prevent us from trading with anyone else, why haven’t these magical gains been realised already and did anyone ever think that these supposed gains could ever make up for what we would be losing on EU trade?

[@Cornu341]

​@@GorgeDawes it only prevents sub standard wares to come into the common market. Everything clearing the quality standards is fine

[@Fontsman-14]

This sovereignty argument is madness. We always made our own laws. Thicko imperialists, locked into a world view based on deluded self-importance.

[@gymjunke1]

In fact, the problem was the laws WE made under the Tories. They have nothing to do with the EU in any way!

[@markwelch3564]

Sovereignty stops at the boundary of your influence and power. We shared sovereignty, and had more power and influence as a result Stop sharing, lose that power and influence

[@sarakinnear6535]

Brilliant comment ! 🤗💖💖💖💖

[@gib321]

You're right max, there was a cost to Ireland in preparing for Brexit but now that cost has been expended it will bring huge benefits to Ireland in terms of the investment in their ports and a more direct connectivity with EU neighbours. Not to mention the opportunities lost by the UK as a non EU member and picked up by Ireland as a member of the bloc.

[@nihaoulouloulou3982]

I'm glad for you guys! You fellows had it rough for most of your history. It's about time you took something back from your old bully. 😁

[@Sat-Man-Alpha]

The British already realise that the whole world is watching this nonsense and laughing itself to death?

[@redcaoimh3127]

The Celtic nations of Scotland Ireland and Wales are bemused at how easily manipulated and subservient the English are. Next up on their moronic agenda is getting rid of our human rights - to deal with thousands of migrants - as if it's a good thing for the rest of us...70 million. They'll vote for it too , if Elon, Rupert and the BBC tells them to....or there's a big red bus with some slogan on it!

[@GrimK77]

@@Sat-Man-Alpha Not necessarily. I don't really watch and laugh. More like I'm sometimes remided about UK and brexit when delivery time from UK comes to attention again, and we explain to a client why even two weeks is not enough

[@simond914]

Over the years I’ve watched this man talk complete nonsense about Brexit, it just demonstrates the utter contempt he and other politicians hold the British public in, he doesn’t believe this idiocy but he has to carry on saying stupid things to appeal to the stupid people who still think Brexit was a good idea. I’m constantly amazed by how utterly shameless these excuses for politicians are. Appalling.

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

I agree and now we have Starmer ,just imagine the amount of freebies he could get for joining the EU ,makes you proud .

[@edmaximum]

This Tory guy is plain crazy

[@gillianpope9039]

Yes and your point is? Aren't they all?

[@GrimK77]

I'm glad someone shares my years long take on brexit, calling it an self imposed economic sanctions.

[@martynw377]

Glad this moron isn't my local MP anymore, he was a disaster

[@rondragon]

But, apparently, they knew what they were voting for but no idea about the ramifications of Brexit.

[@chriswills9437]

Scully is willfully ignorant. 1. Most of what the EU had sourced from the UK pre Brexit is now sourced from within the EU damaging UK exports but increasing intra EU trade. The EU has just lost some of what the UK bought from the EU. 2. As any international business student knows 80% of world trade goes through around 40 countries. Some 27 are in the EU. We have very poor trade deals with Japan, Australia, NZ, Canada & South Korea... the other big traders are the US, China & India who will dictate terms to us, and Russia who we are at war with. The CPTPP deal is worthless. 3. What the UK exports, are mainly high end services and are rarely bought by developing economies, they are bought by developed economies see 2. There is little opportunity for the UK to sell to developing economies until they become developed themselves. 4. I cannot see the UK Economy recovering at all without closer ties with Europe. If the UK doesn´t take that opportunity, all I can see is economic decline, higher taxes and poorer public services for the foreseeable future.

[@cormackeenan8175]

I mentioned previously on this channel a pal of mine who manufactures in the Republic of Ireland bought a part that normally used to cost £9 now cost £89 with the tariffs et cetera. He’s now currently looking for suppliers within the EU to supply his requirements.

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

and alot of uk companys have moved to the eu.

[@JohnPark-xf2gq]

We did of course give more power to the uk which enabled the crime minister lardy boris to destroy are infrastructure far quicker than the brainless idiot would have been whilst in the eu.

[@BrianCharlesThomas-dp9du]

I absolutely agree with you.

[@Bran9]

What a stupid bloody waste and truthful it will probably get worse for your people

[@2ag816]

Considering we harmed the EU with our decision, their tolerance with us has been admirable, yet the Tunts still say they are punishing us!

[@jaapfolmer7791]

Thank you for noticing. But the advantages of the EU are not for cherrypickers who want to contribute nothing, but just profit from us.

[@martint2925]

You haven’t harmed the eu you made it stronger

[@soulcrewblue8629]

His ideology, dogma is far more important than honesty and commonsense

[@trixiepickle8779]

I think many people underestimate just how difficult it will be for us to rejoin. I live in France - 20 yrs now. The EU has moved on, found new trading partners for stuff the UK provided etc. We are an incredibly small fish in a very, very large pond. It will take years to rebuild trust for a start. I don't see any way back for the UK at the moment.

[@rohanharridge5579]

I see steps that could be taken to rebuild trust & lay foundations for an eventual rejoining process. Labour haven't done enough & they'll never have a much political capital as they did in the weeks after the GE, weeks which they wasted. British people are very slow learners on the left & right, with a disturbing number of people still thinking Labour's interests are national interests. They're only in office to have their turn with their snouts in the trough. Brexit conversations are tricky so they'd rather get on with thinly veiled privatisation & securing their post parliamentary employment.

[@AndrewWilsonStooshie]

@@supremeworld87Then you really are self destructive.

[@Paul-eb4jp]

I live in Spain and people I talk to here want us back in.

[@jacquesmolders30]

How difficult to rejoin ? This implies that attempts to rejoin is doomed to failure. I utterly disagree with your view. Reset the trading routes, the freedom to move freely and to compete and the business flow will immediately pick up, utilising the same old channels it used in the past. Carry on with this moody expectation of a far fetched re-entering of the union and I can guarantee you that the UK, as it stands now in his borders, will be terminated.

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

@@supremeworld87 you can always join russia.

[@JohnSmith-bx8zb]

This guy is tilting at windmills. Why is the BBC letting clowns like Scully to grandstand brexit again and again

[@markwelch3564]

Presumably so they can hoist themselves with classics like "massive Brexit harm to the UK is worth it because we caused minor inconvenience to the EU" Rejoin couldn't ask for better 🙂

[@keithspriggs4614]

Hi Max, This is the reality of the BREXIT debacle. My wife previously purchased many items from a shop in the UK. Since Brexit, she either makes sure it is below the €140 or she buys from Europe. That is constant and consistent money that she is not spending with her favourite UK company as a result of Brexit. In other words, she is spending over €500 in Europe than she instead of the UK. Where in this is Europe hurting?

[@cormackeenan8175]

I spent over €1000 in the last six months on Amazon purchases all from Germany they would normally have been purchased from the UK not anymore with the tariffs being added on.

[@keithspriggs4614]

@@cormackeenan8175 cannot wait until Amazon opens their Irish Site.

[@garryferrington811]

I suppose this is hurting the EU because...it's too much money in the economy? Or something? 🤨

[@2ag816]

The Eli Lilly CEO summed it up nicely! The UK is now small compared to the EU and that affects where they invest!

[@zeeone4492]

The British Empire has fallen from a mighty Hight

[@fredatlas4396]

@zeeone4492 Long time ago before brexit raised its ugly head

[@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k]

When the UK was in the EU life was at the level of life in Germany It was said that the UK and Germany are the strongest and best to live in,every city was bustling with life,there were lots of businesses everywhere and a lot of tourists.

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

The British Empire was an evil stain upon the world. The problem for some Brits is their arrogance eclipses their senses.

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

@@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k now uk city centers are dead all boarded up shops no go zones.

[@brendanpmaclean]

The backs of the nations we exploited got sweaty and we slipped unceremoniously off to a slow descent into irrelevant oblivion.

[@derin111]

So…..it was good for no one! Yet that’s his defence of it! 🤣🤣🤣

[@kitglare8800]

Driving around France this year, which I have done for many years, I noted that I did not see 1 lorry/truck with a British number plate, that is a huge change [I drove 2000 miles] and sad

[@mandycouchbean]

Bonkers & Bizarre!!

[@caterthun4853]

Brexit is a disaster. England should stop talking about Brexit. Scotland should look towards rejoining after independence

[@kierandoran8196]

It would be very difficult.

[@user-zi7ep9jz1d]

And Celtic and Rangers should be in the champions league final ,shame ,goodluck on your own .Only i thought that the EU did'nt want you .

[@markbriten6999]

​@@user-zi7ep9jz1dno they don't want the English

[@Braun30]

Opportunity in Asia?!? The biggest and richest market is on your doorstep and you think that going half way around the world to markets with lower purchase potential is the solution?

[@seanfinlay6822]

And you have to go through Suez and the Red Sea to get there.

[@dianeglanville]

nothing new there then tory making a fool of themselves

[@derin111]

When I was a kid growing up in the 1960s and 70s, like them or not, the Tory Party did at least have a cohort of intelligent people to act as spokespersons. Now, it is terminally infested with imbeciles! Look at the two remaining candidates for their leadership! 🤣

[@Bramfly]

The joining not rejoining of the UK is not decided by the UK, it’s the individual sovereign member states ,each with their veto rights, that decide that by themselves.

[@nicks4934]

Yes we know. Thanks for reminding us

[@Backpfeifengesicht45]

@@Bramfly I can't name an EU member state that will approve Britain's re-entry, so unanimous approval is a pipe dream. Given what Brexit has done for the prospect of a united Ireland, even Ireland won't go for it.

[@fredatlas4396]

@Bramfly But we have to ask to rejoin first, then those existing member states can have a vote on it. And it is rejoining, because we were previously a member of the EU club

[@nigelsynnott7344]

@@fredatlas4396 No, it won't be rejoining, for two reasons... We will have to apply as any other applicant has to and we won't get the deal we had and from which we so foolishly turned away . Leaving all that to one side, we have to come to a broad desire not just across our politics but amongst the public to rejoin, and be prepared to be a committed member, not the half in half out one we were before. And there are the small matters of meeting the Copenhagen criteria and the bad blood left behind by Bozo and Farage et al.

[@verystripeyzebra]

Really? Pretty sure we just have to inform the EU that we are members again.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Bet his flat is near the studio and he's "made himself available" because someone else cancelled last-minute 😊.

[@supernoodles91]

'Paul Scully Makes a Fool of Himself.......' You could've just left it there Max.

[@dooley-ch]

The problem with the likes Paul Scully is the business people and advisors hear it and think is it really wise to go putting money into a country run by such dimwits and the answer is almost always NO.

[@nickmannion3879]

We harmed the EU too? Is that not cutting of your nose to spite your face? Ffs.....

[@mikegradone6365]

Sonia summed up Brexit nicely with "absolutely bonkers". Good to see BBC charitable work under ToryAid by providing some much needed work to the many unemployed Tory MPs with limited learning capabilities.

[@tuisitala9068]

He must have a financial interest in backing the trashing of the UK economy.

[@igornovak5584]

Sums up the mentality.

[@mnbalfour1985]

Another day, another video of Victoria Derbyshire handing a Tory's backside to him. She's a Great White Shark of a journalist.

[@rubikscubeking8398]

arrogance + ignorance = brexit

[@aukebij3193]

That disaster for the EU is not too bad, most companies that have lost trade to the UK have picked it up elsewhere, in fact, there are more and more companies that are stopping trade with the UK themselves. simply because it is no longer profitable and they can get better prices for their products elsewhere

[@haniaorszulik210]

At last the media is talking about Brexit. Hopefully Labour will have to do the same.

[@inquisitor229]

Paul Scully is standing on his sinking ship, but feels smug because another ship close by is also sinking.

[@markwelch3564]

Worse, he's smug because he chipped the paint of that ship with the wreck of our ship as it shattered Idiot

[@Bran9]

a but the other ones still afloat 😂

[@patriciahiggins9188]

Only the other ship is not sinking

[@Richard1A2B]

It's not a two-way hit because we EU countries increased our trading with each other and reduced trade with the UK.

[@ctid107]

Its a two way hit like stepping on an ant damages your shoe

[@roderickmain9697]

Id say theres some simple maths to illustrate the problem. How big was the EU market before we left - about 560 million people. So the EU lost 60 out of 560 million people. The UK lost 500 out of 560 million people. OK...its more complicated than that but as an illustration of who did what to whom I think its fair.

[@verttikoo2052]

UK paid to the EU net 10 billion every where and got to take care of the European banking. Hundreds of trillions in transactions. Hundreds of billions in revenue and tens of billions in tax revenue. London is half of the GDP in the UK. That will be gone.

[@garymclachlan8090]

England needs to grow up with politics

[@Leberteich]

'I supported leaving the EU because of political control' is a back- handed admission that economically, Brexit was a disaster. So don't then go on and say it wasn't.

[@carlettoburacco9235]

There are two sentences that over the years have become my number one and two as "Stupidest sentence ever said" One was "We must substantially increase the price of music CDs to fight piracy" (Manager Sony Media Distribution Europe) The second was "We must try to beat India and China on price" (Manager of my old company, producer of cutting edge custom plants for industry) "We lost a lot but we harmed the EU too" enters enthusiastically into the competition. Maybe as number 2.

[@a-borgia4993]

Scully: 7 months experience as minister.... now on the BBC to talk non-sense.

[@eddys.3524]

"But it's a twoo way hit.." What a childish way of thinking.. He ought to go back to Kindergarten.

[@johnosullivan3924]

classic brexiteer way of thinking .....dont mine a bit of damage once we are damaging someone else as well!!!

[@marty1459]

Yeah true but imagine doing what Starmer is doing which is ignore the problem in full knowledge it's damaging just to appease the same cretins that caused the damage in the first place. 😂😂

[@seang2700]

They had forty years from 1975 to 2015 to plan for a realistic Leave process. Brexiters, (despite pretending to be clever,) made no effort whatever to do this. They never addressed practical realities for a single second in all that time. So when we finally did leave, everything had to be made up from scratch. Time and money was, and still is, wasted trying to make the damn thing fly. A better way would have been to present us with a fully costed, detailed, and stress- tested project, BEFORE they shoved the re- run of 1975's referendum into our lives. Also known as due diligence.

[@scottyfive4319]

My personal "Due Diligence" told me two things. 1 Leaving the EU was economic suicide. 2 Everything the "Leavers" said was downright lies or total exaggeration at best. It took me a couple of weeks in the evenings to work these things out. Is the EU perfect NO but it is far better than the situation we are in today and for the next 50+ years.

[@paullarne]

Two very different referenda realting to two very different bodies. We should have had the 2016 referendum in 1992 of course when were taking the next step towards a Superstate. As it happens we have done the right thing, but not as soon as we should have done. I blame John Major for that.

[@scottyfive4319]

@@paullarne So the economic demise suffered by the majority of UK citizens is OK???

[@paullarne]

@@scottyfive4319 What demise? As best ou can subtract out that due to Covid and the War, there is no net demise. Indeed in the longer term we will be pulling ahead of the EU says the IMF.

[@paullarne]

@@seang2700 Cambridge University say this.... "The pluralization of referendum is a perpetual orthographic conundrum. Should we use referenda or referendums? Potentially, the plural in English of referendum could be either referendums or referenda. In practice, political science prefers referenda. We estimate that political scientists are three times as likely to use referenda than referendums (see table 1). In the journals we examined, seven of 10 articles chose to use referenda over referendums. In the field of journalism, the pattern is much different (see table 2), with the standard practice in major media outlets being to use only referendums. Journalism, it seems, has arrived at a different answer to this conundrum than has political science." Take your pick!

[@patrikfloding7985]

Turns out the “two way street” leads to more investment in EU from expanding markets. UK used to be attractive, but now not so much.

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

the uk is a joke now.

[@andrewcalladine2507]

The Brexit argument falls apart the moment it meets reality.

[@paologat]

As long as Brits refuse to understand that *the EU is not a trading bloc* (although it *has* a trading bloc) there’s no hope to improve relations.

[@shue143]

The Tories are still in denial regarding Brexit. Disappointed that Labour are only tinkering around the edges so far. British exporters are the biggest loosers now that the dust has settled. Unfortunately for Britain the EU has moved on with their own economic policies and the Tories have burned any good will Bridges that was built up over the decades with the EU. Britain is the biggest looser economically from the Brexit debacle. Never mind Jacob Rees Mogg has offered some us assurance when he told us that things will be much better in 50 years time.

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

Im sick now of people going on about it, look nothing is going to change so its time we think of other ways because going round in circles isn't changing anything.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

If you can just park the tory corruption of the previous 14 years for a moment. This clown displays the general lack of talent in that party, that help to screw the UK economy.

[@evertonfrancis640]

Childish ex Tory MP

[@maxharbig1167]

Of course the EU took a hit and incurred costs that will not be forgotten,. So, if and when the UK eventually comes up with some substantial requests they will have to be advantageus to the 27, in some way, in order that the EU would bother to waste time even looking at them.

[@aleph8888]

The EU lost 15% of its GDP and will be around 12% of global GDP by the end of the decade. By contrast, the CPTPP with the UK is now a larger trading block than the EU.

[@paologat]

@@aleph8888the EU is not a trading bloc but a political union. Almost all CPTPP members have trade deals with the EU, to the extent that UK is not getting much more (and when it comes to NZ, EU’s trade terms are much better than UK’s. But then, if UK wants to be the poorest member of CPTPP, lagging behind the others, so be it. Just don’t ask the EU to save you as you did in the 1960s and 70s.

[@mandriod5255]

It’s like boxer who just lost a fight saying “yer yer well he may have used me as a punch bag and delivered the knock out blow, but I did land one on him in the second round”

[@KevinSheedy10]

It’s actually more like a boxer saying I may have a closed eye, a broken nose and broken jaw but you should see the state of the other guys knuckles.

[@michaelraasch5496]

What a twunt. He is happy to punish others. Tsktsktsk, not a nice person.

[@perro0076]

The EU definitely got impacted by Brexit, but nowhere near as much as the UK. They have already recovered from it. The UK hasn't. BTW, don't forget Euro clearing needs to go the EU soon.

[@kierandoran8196]

There was little impact. Any miner inconveniences were cleared up years ago.

[@perro0076]

@@kierandoran8196 Totally agree. The German unification was a much, much bigger deal for Europe.

[@MariaSpooon]

We have plenty of unwanted imports from the EU and others

[@Bran9]

You were quite the exporter in days of your

[@MariaSpooon]

@@Bran9 I did not export a thing!

[@Bran9]

@@MariaSpooon you are british as in 'we' so their fore I said 'you' meanings british. Do you get my meaning now.

[@MariaSpooon]

@@Bran9 You presume too much, I am English and Irish, my dear man. Britian, is a political union, like the EU. It is not a Nationality. Have a lovely day. ☺✨

[@Bran9]

@@MariaSpooon I am not your dear man for a start. So you are english first, in your original comment you referred to the EU which Ireland is a member and 'We' in your own words leaving the only safe conclusion that you were referring to britain. If you are sloppy with your native language please don't blame others.

[@nicks4934]

Very strange idea of balance reporting. Sculls is celebrating harm? Omg

[@peteblazar5515]

"To have ten bucks and don't have ten bucks is twenty bucks difference."

[@martymcdermott67]

Yup. I have 11 fingers. One hand - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, and 5 on the other hand is 11.

[@dwdei8815]

The "hurt the EU" was the bit Putin asked them to do for him.

[@miriamreiss]

As a kid I remembered the news out of Britain.....Strike.....more Strike....and some more.......and saw the pictures of a rundown country.....that was in the early 70's.......well, welcome to Brexit.....the past maybe your future.

[@damianleah6744]

These idiots say we harmed the EU, well we were part of the EU! Self flagellation then self congratulation all at the same time.

[@eoinryan6271]

Irish exports to the UK is down but overall our exports are continuing to increase substantially!!!

[@jeffrejr1]

Brexit was great for the Irish people 😂

[@wendysimpson6395]

What a load of rubbish he spouted.

[@JohnnieE1961]

So it's as easy to sell shop awnings to people in Mumbai and Bangalore as it is to people in Calais and Antwerp.🤔

[@mandycouchbean]

Why is the arsonist invited on to talk Fire safety?

[@hannesorisson1200]

Obviously and obviously so obviously. God what the man is stupid. At best the neighbors got some smoke damage from UK Brexit.

[@mnbalfour1985]

The definition of fool is tory, and vice versa.

[@vereferreus5262]

The harm brexit did to the EU is not really something to celebrate if it hits you 27x as hard...

[@SimonPJohnson]

Northern Ireland has benefited from remaining in the single market, as previously acknowledged by Sunak

[@TheLucanicLord]

They've lost about 60 million customers and suppliers between 300 million. 1/5 each. We've lost 300 million between 60 million. 5 each. Not an opinion, it's just counting.

[@DawnofInfo]

Max you overestimate the "damage" that brexit did to the EU. Calling it a disaster for the EU is extremely exaggerated, other markets like china filled the hole and then some. The EU has been working better without the UK because they always blocked legislations for purely selfish reasons.

[@anonymoushuman8962]

I don’t know why I keep watching this stuff. Brexit was a disaster.

[@richard_ager]

Paul Scully was my local MP in Sutton and Cheam, until he was kicked out by the LibDems at the general election. Thank goodness!

[@laurence2824]

There is a certain breed of Brexiteer for whom "sovereignty" and "taking back control" are dogwhistle words with a xenophobic overtone. It's a pity that this rather unattractive dynamic was so influential in achieving the Brexit referendum result - I rather hoped we'd moved on from the Britain of Alf Garnett and sitcoms like "Love Thy Neighbour".

[@lochnessspeedwerkz6557]

Compliments of russian disinformation. Brexit and Trump work off of the same dynamics. Take russian disinfo and peddle it to your ignorant cult. Then the disinfo spreads like wildfire over social media.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

There is one thing that the UK forgets: most of the things sold by the UK can also be found elsewhere (after all, there are 27 other countries), but the UK cannot help importing food (especially) from the EU. If we want to keep the same standards of imported products, we are stuck with the EU, and now their products cost more and arrive more slowly. Starmer will struggle. But I have also come to the conclusion that he does not want to rejoin because...he wants to spare the UK the humiliation of new negotiations and being refused, criticised etc as there will be no cherry picking next time. I think the EU migt want to wait until the rabid brexiteers generation has kicked the bucket: these people cannot be trusted.

[@markbriten6999]

I'm not sure. I think he's not trying to rejoin because he knows it a non starter. Remember one EU country says no you ain't in. Oh and the EFTA option has already been vetoed by all members

[@annepoitrineau5650]

@@markbriten6999 That too, and such experiences are humiliating, so I think we agree :)

[@DL-ng8rf]

UK: *Bites nose to spite face* Paul Scully: " Yeah but the face is also hurting"

[@SuprousOxide]

Why trade with a huge market literally right next door when you can push for more trade on the other side of the globe?

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

(Cargo shipping companies nodding vigorously)

[@DJWHITE_]

Yes, but they empowered Putin too...

[@Israelipropaganda]

For the UK it was a car crash for the EU it was like a bug splatting on the windscreen

[@GraemeRoberts]

Paul Numbskully is like the bloke in pretty much every office job who uses all the buzzwords, wears the flashiest suits and drives the latest but is utterly f*cking hopeless at his job. Basically a Fast Show character who goes around causing very real harm.