Exactly How Strong are Ball Joint Presses? Harbor Freight vs Amazon

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Torque Test Channel

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Harbor Freight Maddox up against Orion Motor Tech. 1" impact here: homedepot.sjv.... Check out our T-shirt Shop which features this impact! bit.ly/3z98ryF Our Amazon Storefront which this press did NOT make the cut for: amzn.to/3rjhZ6P The best selling ball joint presses found in a store and online go head to head - with not very close results. The MA10-1 Maddox from harbor Freight is a costly $90, but is it worth is salt vs Amazon's #1 seller OMT ‎8542035336 at $47? Lets see.

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@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 ай бұрын
This hydraulic ram resulted in the death of one of our custom calibration gauges from this filming, in filming episode 2 we killed another custom calibration gauge. We thought we had captured all the data, but it appears it was skewing the readings more and more throughout the day. The gauges are around $600 a piece, and we dont appear to be exceeding 10Kpsi, so we're essentially just weary about revisiting this and addng to the pile.
@d1986ben
@d1986ben Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about the cost. Have you thought about reaching out to a custom hydraulic shop? Their testing setups are pretty robust, might be a good q&a resource. With the launch of the icon ball joint it would be super interesting to see if the snap on clone is really a clone like their jacks
@alantrimble2881
@alantrimble2881 Ай бұрын
@@d1986benThe Snap On ball joint press isn’t very good. A coworker (who is a nazi about tool maintenance) managed to destroy the threads in the forcing screw in a brand new Snap On ball joint press with nothing more than a 1/2” drive ratchet. Yes, he greased it prior to use.
@Divious710
@Divious710 Ай бұрын
When you guys have time please update this video with the new icon press
@calvinbarnes1721
@calvinbarnes1721 3 жыл бұрын
I know all the Jiffy Lubes will be glad to see one of the tools they use to put drain plugs back in tested, looking forward to the one inch impact test
@brianbanks3044
@brianbanks3044 3 жыл бұрын
Valvoline too....they don't want any leakers leaving the place...lol....but i did have to use a 2 foot breaker bar to get my oil plug out after a mid winter oil change
@Kanesgarage
@Kanesgarage 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@TheDudeMyDude
@TheDudeMyDude 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheRealMikeWilly
@TheRealMikeWilly 3 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine works for Jiffy Lube. He says they buy at least 1 oil pan a month kuz they strip em out when impacting them back in.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 3 жыл бұрын
lmao!
@SouthMainAuto
@SouthMainAuto 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not I've beaten the balls off a few ball joint presses in my day. I always had OTC and have been through several of them. Years ago I got a couple from Astro tools. They're extra deep one or extra long rather and then their regular set. I've hammered, heated, beated, sprayed, torqued, twisted, thrown and dropped them in the dirt snd they seem to hold up pretty well. I'd be interested to see where Astro holds up in the mix...
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Snap On Press and I have used it for the past 13 years and it's the BEST!!! All the cups have snap rings and hold everything together perfectly!!!! It's well worth the cost!!!! Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!
@miguelare3
@miguelare3 3 жыл бұрын
I actually bought the astro tool ball joint press because of you Eric and man they take a beating they hold up like no other!
@boosted2.4_sky
@boosted2.4_sky 3 жыл бұрын
I always get the Astro or OTC brand tools if they're available... I'll pay for a better product and warranty every time....
@1337penguinman
@1337penguinman 3 жыл бұрын
I run the Maddox one myself, but it's rare I ever use it. 95% of the ball joints I end up doing are either built into the control arm or the bolt on style. Honestly, I end up using my angle grinder for the riveted type much more often than my press. Just the type of vehicles that are popular around here I guess.
@johnmorrow1628
@johnmorrow1628 3 жыл бұрын
Astro tools are awesome I have the full ball joint press and the Goliath press Very good quality
@Anglo-EgyptianMan
@Anglo-EgyptianMan 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is better than Netflix!
@Allthetacosaremine
@Allthetacosaremine 3 жыл бұрын
Netflix has to have something good to watch left to have a chance
@bobster812
@bobster812 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@vineryoulks7774
@vineryoulks7774 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 3 жыл бұрын
TTC and chill
@privateparker5698
@privateparker5698 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is not like he had much competition
@bigcheese370
@bigcheese370 3 жыл бұрын
Product testing is good, like what you and project farm do.
@jonbanfill
@jonbanfill 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to project farm
@zrafferty
@zrafferty 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy project farm he put thought into his tests
@twalters51
@twalters51 3 жыл бұрын
I love to see the Astro, OTC, Snap-on and Matco's exclusive designed presses tested. This is definitely interesting on how different even the 2 cheapest ones are.
@-tr0n
@-tr0n 3 жыл бұрын
Start clicking on the ads!
@No1scrapy
@No1scrapy 2 жыл бұрын
The matco one is designed by Schley
@jerryvelasco1474
@jerryvelasco1474 2 жыл бұрын
Snap- on has the best ball joint press by far. The price for one is what sucks. Matco came out with a new design, but it is not as versatile in small tight areas.
@HondaCrf450r.
@HondaCrf450r. Ай бұрын
Would definitely like to see how the new icon one stacks up to the snap on one!
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 3 жыл бұрын
The big thing with this style press is getting it set up in a straight line. Get just a bit off angle and now the force required climbs rapidly due to the angular pressures on the parts. That and the folks who miss the retaining ring, or that it's a threaded part not a press in.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this, spot on!
@TJK0ng
@TJK0ng 3 жыл бұрын
With the old Pittsburgh kit from Horror Fright the cups/adapters were so soft they would start to bend and crumple on the first turn so it didn't really matter how much of a straight line you had it in the C-frame was soon all crooked & done for. Likewise, if their new Maddox one doesn't come with higher quality adapters it really won't matter that the C-frame is stronger than their last model , but unfortunately this testing didn't take that into account.
@christopherblodgett8362
@christopherblodgett8362 3 жыл бұрын
@@TJK0ng lol one of my Pittsburgh adapters has an old axle nut forever cold welded into it. Thought I was making progress but the nut was just swaging it's way into the cup.
@brainkill7034
@brainkill7034 22 күн бұрын
Got a good laugh from you calling out people missing the retaining ring 😂
@nighthawkron
@nighthawkron 3 жыл бұрын
With vehicle prices and availability going insane most people will be working on their own car/trucks during these trying times, I know I will. Letting people know which tools will do the job safely and effectively is very much appreciated. Thank you for all you do. P. S. It's great the way you present the testing also. Thanks again.
@nighthawkron
@nighthawkron 3 жыл бұрын
@@soundsofnature7015 As the prices go up people have a tendency to keep their vehicles longer, which in turn means either take it to a Stealership, local repair shop or do the repairs themselves. If it comes down to paying to put a ball joint on or paying for a prescription I for one will do the work myself and use the money saved to get the medicine my daughter needs to keep her alive. Knowing which ones are the best to get the job done helps me do just that.
@japerezo75
@japerezo75 2 жыл бұрын
Some Harbor Freight tools I consider them to be “Single Use” plus the repair for which you need it is something you only do every 6 years so I just buy the cheapest tool, use it and dispose it at the metal recycling center. The DIY savings are greater than the cost to buy new tools.
@uenragedbro
@uenragedbro Жыл бұрын
It's neither one of these
@tedburke728
@tedburke728 3 жыл бұрын
Could you test if possible OTC and Asrto pneumatic brands
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 3 жыл бұрын
otc USA made lifetime warranty--astro Taiwan made and 1 yr warranty plus will stretch over time
@peterfaggella3120
@peterfaggella3120 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! OTC for sure!!
@crazycanaboy95
@crazycanaboy95 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm really wanting to see the OTC
@FinallyMe78
@FinallyMe78 3 жыл бұрын
Another for otc.
@frankinjeep1194
@frankinjeep1194 3 жыл бұрын
OTC test I've punished mine for 25 years with no failure
@chrislittle9419
@chrislittle9419 3 жыл бұрын
How about you test the big boy snap on ball joint press?
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud 3 жыл бұрын
Bc snap on is a scam. Anything snap on is money truly wasted.
@smitty2jones
@smitty2jones 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuruStud Found the guy that hasn't used a snap on ball joint press 🤣
@Billybobaggins9
@Billybobaggins9 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitty2jones he hasn’t used anything but harbor freight to change a lightbulb on his handa probably
@smitty2jones
@smitty2jones 3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict CP! I don't have a Matco dealer, bit their new BJ press looks dope. I've had the SO for more than a decade and never had any problems (except my grease gun head won't fit on the zerk)
@matthewklein9225
@matthewklein9225 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitty2jones damn right. That snap on press is well worth every penny
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 3 жыл бұрын
Snap On Press!!!! I have owned one for the past 13 years and have never had any kind of problem!!! The cups are held together by snap rings and hold everything together perfectly!!!! It's the BEST!!!! Keep Rocking It Out!!!
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
$?
@michaelmcgregor3108
@michaelmcgregor3108 3 жыл бұрын
Bjp1, $800 plus for the master kit. I own two actually and have cracked and shattered the cups, but never had a problem with the actual press itself
@movaughn20
@movaughn20 3 жыл бұрын
I see snap on sets used, retailing around $600. Sounds like a decent investment, hopefully we will see in part 2!
@randyhavard6084
@randyhavard6084 2 жыл бұрын
I never would have guessed that one was able to produce so much more pressure, I thought this test would just tell us which one would fail first but things got so much more interesting.
@kdbl007
@kdbl007 3 жыл бұрын
I think the most common ones most of us use are OTC since that’s what the parts stores loan out, or Astro, Snapoff, Matco
@CalebsCars
@CalebsCars 2 жыл бұрын
that snap on one is amazing, I haven't used the matco yet
@jerryvelasco1474
@jerryvelasco1474 2 жыл бұрын
Snap- on is the king in ball joint tool. Matco has a new design, but it isn't able to fit in tight small areas.
@johannlourens6183
@johannlourens6183 Жыл бұрын
I used kzbin.infoUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
@GregsAutomotive
@GregsAutomotive 7 ай бұрын
So does my 1/4 craftsman usa impact !!!!! Well with a small struggle.
@dannyraterman1754
@dannyraterman1754 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a snap-on or OTC ball joint press to see how they'd stack up
@OBSessed1995
@OBSessed1995 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Maddox, used it on the rusted stuck ball joints on my 1995 Chevy 2500. Didn't even break a sweat, pressed them right out then right back in. I highly recommend it. I was using a Kobalt 24v, non XTR. That also did great, went through a bar of a 4 amp hour battery after 2 ball joints (uppers are riveted on this truck) and all of the front end bolts.
@kennethstephens8046
@kennethstephens8046 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Astro pneumatic. It’s been awesome.
@reallyhappenings5597
@reallyhappenings5597 3 жыл бұрын
Same, their one-box master set was a decent price on Amazon. I got the "Goliath" extended clamp too. Custom fittings from the Home Depot plumbing dept.
@jamesstewart505
@jamesstewart505 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a used astro press about 10 years ago it worked great for years but sadly the press frame has opened up and i can no longer use it to install ball joints they always go in on an angle. Cant really complain, it held up for longer than expected and they're fairly inexpensive.
@93sundance
@93sundance 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! I've got the old Pittsburgh press, cost me a whopping $30. I've used it mostly for u-joints and and some ball joints. Hasn't bent yet. Used a IR 2135Ti on it.
@NoahWL1
@NoahWL1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm super excited for this new series! I'm always suspicious of Amazon's too-good-to-be-true 4.5 and 5 star reviews, but as far as tools and auto parts go I haven't found a way to truly know what's what. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these videos!
@tylermcgonigal6031
@tylermcgonigal6031 3 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for
@doogoodminds8157
@doogoodminds8157 Жыл бұрын
Did enough of us ask to see part 2 yet? Sure would be awesome to see! Thanks for all your hard work!🖖 Torque Test Channel 1 year ago Where is episode 2? We bought most of the top suggestions from the comments here. Tested them, then sent them to a facility to pull apart the ones we couldn't nuke to measure that. BUT of those brands it includes Astro, who Torque of TTC is working. So, it's on the back burner for now until we figure out if you guys want to see that or not. It's up to you guys. But the data's already in the books as it were.
@pjseidel
@pjseidel 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely would like to see the OTC on that rig. I have spent a lot of time pressing anchor pins out with them by tightening them down with the impact and then beating on them with a sledge.
@ericbrandt829
@ericbrandt829 3 жыл бұрын
I learned long ago from a veteran mechanic with balancer pullers & presses....If its stuck and seems unyielding....Tension it up and give the bolt a nice TAP! with a sledge...the shock forces will usually break any bonds...otherwise you'll ruin the tool. Also heat and shocking the junction while its still hot with PB Blaster will undo galvanic interaction.
@wades623
@wades623 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbrandt829 had an aluminum control arm break before and that is what it probably was
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbrandt829 map gas+pb blaster=hot oil treatment. Works well. Especially on rusted nuts and bolts. For presses and stuff, yes the extra smack def works wonders. If thats not working add the hot oil treatment. Project farm actually did a vid testing kroil, pb blaster, atf mixed w acetone, cheap liquid wrench, etc. The cheapest one, liquid wrench actually worked the best
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 3 жыл бұрын
As a DIY-ER, I own a Maddox set, used it to replace ball joints and Universal joints and had no problem. Was a good buy for me.
@theboogyman4985
@theboogyman4985 2 жыл бұрын
Lifetime warranty
@carloshour8263
@carloshour8263 7 ай бұрын
​@@theboogyman4985no, 90 days
@dr_benson1284
@dr_benson1284 3 жыл бұрын
Hey look, I finally found the impact that Jiffy Lube uses to tighten the oil drain plug!
@georgef1176
@georgef1176 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the ball joint presses, many of the high end companies say in directions NOT too use impacts on them. Only by hand.. but I have always used impacts and never broke a high end C-frame
@1337penguinman
@1337penguinman 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't use with impact wrench" is the press equivalent of "not for use as a hammer or prybar" on other tools.
@baileyhatfield4273
@baileyhatfield4273 3 жыл бұрын
@@1337penguinman Don't use your screwdriver as a prybar or chisel XDDD, just broke my baby snap on pocket screwdriver/probably not branded as a prybar....prying something. Thing was like 10 dollars so. Which isnt cheap for what it is, but yeah.
@TJK0ng
@TJK0ng 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW - All of OTC Tool's official channel Ball Joint Press demonstration videos (ex: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3vMnaGoeK-mrsU ) show them using impact and their model 7248 (kit # 7249) is made in USA & doesn't cost much more if at all than the cheap ones do.
@Sasskin
@Sasskin 3 жыл бұрын
Because of the thread not c-frame. Impacts destory threads
@benmiller5015
@benmiller5015 3 жыл бұрын
Love this new series guys. You're growing so fast n diversifying like crazy. I have the maddox n I mean I put it through hell on 4 ball joints on a 95 ford f150 using a breaker bar n 3 ft of cheater bar n it held up just fine with no bending
@drdiesel1
@drdiesel1 3 жыл бұрын
Please test the OTC 7249, $120 on Amazon.
@XRIDER0002
@XRIDER0002 3 жыл бұрын
Same set at the Mac so I'd love to see it
@rotorhead5000
@rotorhead5000 3 жыл бұрын
Neat! I've been using a cheapy set (labeled as ATD, probably same manufacturer as the Amazon, and most other cheapy sets out there) and it's held up well for 15 years now. I've had it pretty bowed out pressing kingpins and chassis bushings, but it's always returned to its shape. It's been impacted since day 1 (counter to the operator instructions) and round here, there's no balljoint that isn't rusty.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 3 жыл бұрын
Snap-on BJP1 FTW
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Sure sounds like we'll be picking one up!
@maverick12916
@maverick12916 3 жыл бұрын
Its the best
@richardstockwell4862
@richardstockwell4862 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love mine had it for years
@jerryvelasco1474
@jerryvelasco1474 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it needs to be tested. Anyone in the automotive tech world knows the Snap-on one is by far the best. The only thing that sucks about it is the price.
@jenniferwhitewolf3784
@jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the industry premium tool, the Snap-On BJPT would have fared? My family used to be in the car repair biz and bent up all the cheap tools just as you show. Once the Snappy kit was purchased, bending failure ended. I inherited the kit and even with shop use, its straight, its got great threads, and non of the rings or plates are deformed. It had use on suspensions and on light hydraulic systems driving seized pins... and it still all works like new.
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 2 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for, sometimes!
@toyorover1313
@toyorover1313 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see otc and snap on tested. Great test, earned a sub. I love the recap at the end
@gmiller442
@gmiller442 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a “drag race” between the Astro Pnuematic 7865/7897 and the Powerbuilt 648617. I would think these two kits would be near the top spending limits a moderate to heavy DIY’er would feel comfortable buying. These tools also seem to present as better quality compared to the OMT kits. It would also be awesome if you used the press collars and adapters in the kits. It seems like this is where these tools really give up. It’s not so much the forcing screw and c-frame press, it’s moreover the cups and adapters that bend and crack. Love your channel!!! Keep up the good work!!!
@kleanupguy141
@kleanupguy141 2 жыл бұрын
Drive shaft joint press from Tiger tools would be interesting. Btw I’m always impressed with the ways you find to test those tools 👍
@johnnymissfire8464
@johnnymissfire8464 3 жыл бұрын
We have been beating the crap out of a matco (OTC?) BALL JOINT RESS AT WORK FOR 20 YEARS. It has visibly bent while in use but always returned to normal shape and never messed up the threads. I have used a 3' breaker bar on it until it wouldn't turn any more then beat it with a 4lb hammer to shock the ball joint out. It still works great!
@LilasTools
@LilasTools 3 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome testing! I’d love to see the otc, Astro, and snap on tested!
@kentuckycowboy2
@kentuckycowboy2 3 жыл бұрын
Being a retired Ford motor auto light truck tech I have and used a MAC Tools Ball Joint Press set I used it for years and put in hundreds of Ball joints. Kept it cleaned and lubed I never had any trouble out of it.
@danr1920
@danr1920 3 жыл бұрын
If the ball joint doesn't come out on full force, hit it with a metal hammer. I did that with a universal joint that had maxed out using my bench vise. One moderate blow to the joint and it was out.
@joselozano0528
@joselozano0528 3 жыл бұрын
Try a 20 year old pitman arm in a Ford or Chevy truck. I had 1 that wouldn't come out with a 1in breaker bar & 7ft pipe.
@joselozano0528
@joselozano0528 3 жыл бұрын
Oh & I still hit it with an air hammer, my mechanic was so mad.
@christopherblodgett8362
@christopherblodgett8362 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I do all ball joints now. Just crank the press down moderately tight, smack the metal next to the joint with a BFH, tighten, snack, repeat. Way less effort and a lot less violent when there isn't 10k lbs of force on it when it breaks loose.
@joselozano0528
@joselozano0528 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherblodgett8362 yeah that was me back in the day & a pitman arm, definitely not a ball joint. I now do it your way cause your right it's much safer.
@christopherblodgett8362
@christopherblodgett8362 3 жыл бұрын
@@joselozano0528 I first learned about it fighting with the upper frame mount for the front track bar on my jeep TJ. Someone in the group told me to smack the side of the frame mount and I couldn't believe how easy it worked. Then I tried it on the upper and lower ball joints and they popped right out. Then tried it on the tie rod ends with just light/moderate pressure from a 1/2" ratchet on a small cheap harbor freight ball joint separator and they popped right out too. And this was on a rusty jeep that came from NY. Almost as much of a game changer as discovering 3/8" battery impact wrenches lol.
@ninjatechauto655
@ninjatechauto655 3 жыл бұрын
The ones I would like to see a comparison on are the Astro, OTC, Snap-On BJP1 and Matco's Big boy. Especially those last two. Love your vids. Please keep them up.
@mlkelley68
@mlkelley68 3 жыл бұрын
Do you already have the Astro Pneumatics 7897 on your list to test?
@baileyhatfield4273
@baileyhatfield4273 3 жыл бұрын
I've used my 2767? the New h1/2 high torque anyways, on a powerbuilt branded kit. I tell you, i had that think just GOING at it flat out, needed to even get a fresh battery to really get it out of there. Did the job and nothing broke so...i'm glad.
@joshvick6931
@joshvick6931 3 жыл бұрын
As a diy guy I would be curious how these stack up against the various ones you can rent at a parts store. That would put in perspective if it is worth owning one or just renting it when needed.
@user-te3qq1rb7u
@user-te3qq1rb7u 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d just rent them. You pay a deposit and get your money back when you return it. Unless you’re a mechanic for a living, you’re not doing ball joints often enough that a trip to the auto parts store is inconvenient. Spend that money on other tools you use often. Just my two cents.
@TheBtrain99
@TheBtrain99 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't even use one of these when I did a ball joint. Used the screw wedge thing to bust it loose from the control arm, and a combination of part of a bearing press kit, a 10lb sledge and some larger impact sockets to press out and in on the knuckle.
@pianomail
@pianomail 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see some "Big Boy" brands like Snap-On, Mac, etc. However, I realize those are QUITE pricey.
@timmy-dnumber1990
@timmy-dnumber1990 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Maddox and it worked fine when I had to replace the ball joint on a 97 Dodge Ram's original that went through many many Minnesota Winters. I used a 5' jack handle as a cheater bar and when it broke it was so loud I thought it snapped the socket. But truth be told I only intended to use it once.
@meanodustino9563
@meanodustino9563 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that D-handle is a BEAST🤔 good for putting lugs on my civic👍
@moviemania1137
@moviemania1137 3 жыл бұрын
Tightening spark plugs too👌
@nate6386
@nate6386 3 жыл бұрын
Tightening oil filters
@dancearoundtheworld5360
@dancearoundtheworld5360 3 жыл бұрын
Tightening head bolts
@jamesu
@jamesu 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for interior work!
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt!
@pauldeahl3980
@pauldeahl3980 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used the old Pittsburg press and I’ve always used a 3/4 drive breaker bar and an 5 ft cheater bar. When it feels like I’m not getting anywhere I hit the control arm with a little bit of heat and then smack it with a 2 pound hammer. The trick is to let the heat and hammer do the work for you.
@LoneWolf-cf5tp
@LoneWolf-cf5tp 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done 3 ram 2500s with my old Pittsburgh . Never used heat though but you’re right about the hammer trick. I also put anti seize on the threads on the puller. Saves the threads. It would be easy to bend the press but you got to know when to use a hammer before you bend it. Lol 👍🏻
@nickdibart
@nickdibart 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but I have to ask, why are you doubling the deflection measurement? The piston is still backed against the rear foot of the tool and any deflection back there would also show up as increased clearance at the front where you measure.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The total dimensional growth at 14:39 was greater than anything we measured using the D-handle by measuring one end, and that's from a 1/2" earthquake impact. There was bend going on at the back during the runs, we just couldn't access it and put a number to it. So we doubled everything, which since they are just being compared to each other should still be usefull, but agreed not the best approach. Some 12" calipers would have been better measuring the whole press length, but we plan to test larger c frames to and even 12" calipers would not have worked there and we couldn't swing $350 calipers.
@loganriechers8764
@loganriechers8764 3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Anytime tool 12" calipers on Amazon are a pretty nice set for $80. I'm a career machinist and use them when I need the bigger size. Sometimes handy too having a dial caliper that does standard and metric
@nickdibart
@nickdibart 3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Fair enough. Those larger Vernier calipers definitely aren't cheap.
@kasparroosalu
@kasparroosalu 3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel You are referencing your measurements from the back side of the ball joint press. Measurements that you took are the total delection. Body of the ram is acting as a gauge block.
@tkramar6372
@tkramar6372 3 жыл бұрын
As many others asked for, OTC USA press. Sounds like the Astro will be interesting also.
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 3 жыл бұрын
Despite trying my hardest, I cannot figure out the reason for doubling the deformation reading. If the pressure cage does not swell during the test, the measurement is the "total" without doubling. At most, if you want to calculate each individual prong deformation, I would rather divide than multiply. What is going on?
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
Same ? Makes no sense there would be double that in actual deflection.
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 3 жыл бұрын
@@snap-off5383 .... So, how will the same gap magically appear to the back side of the pressure gage?
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
@@InssiAjaton read what I said and understand it, then you won't need to ask that question. (I'm agreeing with you)
@Bobbywolf64
@Bobbywolf64 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Torque test channel got that aspect wrong. a 5mm deflection is just that, a 5mm deflection.
@Pidrittel
@Pidrittel 2 жыл бұрын
Was about to comment on the same thing. Indeed his measurement already equals to the total deflection, because the setup is not symmetric (deformation only shows in the front, at least if the pressure thingy does not deform).
@hustleeveryday5852
@hustleeveryday5852 Жыл бұрын
I haven't started watching the testing but I know without watching that I would choose the Maddox from HF. I own one and I have abused it to no end. I've hit it with over 1100 ft lbs of torque and pushed a hole through thick steel withot any bending or braking. I pushed ball joints out from a 23 year old truck the other day with the Maddox and it made quick work of the project.
@guy990
@guy990 3 жыл бұрын
By far and away the best tool review channel on KZbin
@Ferkle871
@Ferkle871 3 жыл бұрын
The snap on ball joint press set.
@flyboy2610
@flyboy2610 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Astro Pneumatic 7897 set. It's a beast! Does anything I ask it to, and then asks "Is that all you've got?" :D
@reallyhappenings5597
@reallyhappenings5597 3 жыл бұрын
same, still a pain to set up but it's the only one I've ever had
@Tylerbone96
@Tylerbone96 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the Maddox the last couple years since I don’t usually do too much ball joint replacement, just don’t see that all that much, but I do it every now and then. Didn’t want to fork over the OTC or Snap on or Matco, glad to see for the price it’s actually not that bad!
@karlgutenburg9176
@karlgutenburg9176 3 жыл бұрын
So far its not that bad. Now im pumped to find out which brand is the best!!
@seanriedel8933
@seanriedel8933 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see the O Rielly rental tool evertough to see how tough it is.
@kennygroover9921
@kennygroover9921 Жыл бұрын
ASTRO vs. OEM vs. OTC im looking to replace my stolen MATCO Master set (otc w/matco brand 2 cases) and im not going to lay down an other fortune on a master kit but am leaning towards the astro, bought a used powerbuilt set, no complaints, but not sureit will hold up long term like my matco/otc thanks, great job guys keep it up!
@robertweir9034
@robertweir9034 3 жыл бұрын
I had a HF and it bent trying to remove a lower ball joint on a 2001 dodge 2500 pickup. Never did get it out. Replaced with an Astro but haven’t used it yet. I’m curious how the astro would do. I hear the OTC is suppose to be good also.
@jamesu
@jamesu 3 жыл бұрын
I use my old Harbor Freight set to loan to people I don’t care for. Seriously the Astro may do it but I just skip to the snap on for anything but small cars!
@hairpunut
@hairpunut 2 жыл бұрын
I own a OTC brand ball joint press. She is an oldie but a goodie. Lasted for years now lol.
@enrico81
@enrico81 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing a Hazet impact tested. They make big claims torque wise and are quite expensive so i'd be interested in seeing if it holds up to its claims.
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
rebranded taiwan stuff.
@janbastein7355
@janbastein7355 Жыл бұрын
@@snap-off5383 Snap …… rebranded China stuff!!!😀😀😀
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 Жыл бұрын
@@janbastein7355 nope, INFAR and KABO only operate in Taiwan.
@andrewcarr899
@andrewcarr899 3 жыл бұрын
OTC, snap-on and matco Use the snap-on all the time with our impacts and have never done any damage.
@robertfrate9738
@robertfrate9738 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve used the power built puller with an ir impact and it got the job done, in the last five years or so I’ve been replacing the the entire control arm it’s cheaper and more efficient,
@chriscord6524
@chriscord6524 3 жыл бұрын
The only bad part about this channel is you’re going to run out of things to test and bend-break. For real dude, you are killing it. We need KZbin award ceremonies for this level of stuff n things.
@brotherbrian1
@brotherbrian1 3 жыл бұрын
We've got the OTC master set at work, and haven't had any problems as of yet. I have destroyed the old HF one wrenching on it by hand.
@junianius
@junianius 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely give tiger tool a go at it, they fall under the “more pricey” category so that’s why I’m interested.
@414Chevy
@414Chevy 3 жыл бұрын
I had an old Pittsburg from Harbor Freight, doing ball joints on a Jeep XJ. Kept turning my breaker bar until I noticed the C was no longer a C. It was bent bad. Went to Advanced Auto and rented their OEM ball joint press. Just looking at it, it was a substantially bigger C. Think $99.00 deposit that you get back when you return the tool. Told the guy at Advance Auto I wasn't bringing it back if it worked. I never returned it. It works very, very well. If you can't get ball joints out with this and a 4 foot breaker bar, you ain't gonna get them out.
@jamescole8049
@jamescole8049 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Maddox to change them out of the aluminum control arms on my F150 and holy cow, that sucker was worth every penny plus some.
@UnavailableUserID
@UnavailableUserID 3 жыл бұрын
I am so very very happy that I accidentally found your channel because this is some GOOD content. I like the presentation, the methodology, and the complete lack of unnecessary bullshit. Thank you.
@kirkwd8829
@kirkwd8829 Жыл бұрын
I have destroyed a couple presses and truly appreciate you looking to test these. Look forward to other tests.
@greggszyp7371
@greggszyp7371 3 жыл бұрын
Just some polite constructive criticism. I do like your channel a lot, thank you for all your efforts. When doing a hardness test it is very important to test on a smooth surface. Preferably a ground surface but a machined surface will do. A sand cast, saw cut, or otherwise bumpy surface is not suitable for hardness testing. Testing on the side of a cylinder can give an erroneously soft reading due to possible deflection, especially on softer material. At worst use a file to smooth the surface your using the hardness tester on. Keep measurement standards consistent. You use pounds per square inch for force, yet measure deflection in metric. Pick one, Imperial or Metric. and stay the course. Of course noting the other measurement in text for those who need it. While we’re on mesuring, there looks to be inconsistent positioning of the calipher. This will cause errors in the measurement. Like I said good videos, keep up the great work. Thanks for all your time & effort.
@victorsalas339
@victorsalas339 Ай бұрын
The icon one came out, basically almost a copy of the snap one, would love to see it on the next episode!
@jimbobimboslice
@jimbobimboslice Ай бұрын
Came to say this exact thing! Just bought mine this morning
@Seveneleven44
@Seveneleven44 3 жыл бұрын
I can attest for the strength of the snap-on ball joint press, (BJP1). Used it for traction bar bushings on heavy duty fords, spring shackles on pull behind trailers, ball joints of all sizes and types, rigged it to use to remove a slack adjuster in the field one time…one of the best tool investments I’ve ever made
@IBEDAVE87
@IBEDAVE87 3 жыл бұрын
I've had an OTC set for many years and it's held up really well. I'd like to see how it does here.
@geologic740
@geologic740 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Would like to see Astro, OTC and OEM brands tested
@charlesflores9714
@charlesflores9714 3 жыл бұрын
I swear I didn't think y'all would be able to keep original content going. Awesome.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Hey cheers. We're less than a year old, just starting out. As the channel grows, so will what we're able to test.
@dc5723
@dc5723 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Snap-on BJP1 and the Astro Master Kit and had huge successes with both.
@l3lhsl3
@l3lhsl3 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but just wanted to comment you guys have a great channel. Very well put together
@JohnnyWalker721
@JohnnyWalker721 3 жыл бұрын
Astro pneumatic xl Goliath balljoint press. I bent an Orion with a 1/2 inch Duralast breaker bar
@firstlast---
@firstlast--- 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the astro "master" ball joint kit. I've put that thing through hell trying to do Chevy ball joints, at one point giving it all I got with my 1/2in Milwaukee fuel
@austinh1028
@austinh1028 3 жыл бұрын
I got a HF balljoint kit for cheap, bent it really good with the cups mis-aligned, but the kits I rent from autozone etc are always missing parts, so I use my old harbor frieght cups with the incomplete rental. works great! lol
@chiparooo
@chiparooo 3 жыл бұрын
Very timely. I’m looking at buying a ball joint press. I like you methodology and explanations. Thanks for sharing!
@ianloyd6384
@ianloyd6384 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s not longer living a straight lifestyle”. Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@troy3052
@troy3052 3 жыл бұрын
wow!!! I didnt know there was a difference, I just thought it was the same press, just in the diffenent box
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
That's the problem, they all look the same! But very different materials so far just 2 examples in
@alexs3598
@alexs3598 3 жыл бұрын
Snap On BJP1 ball joint press. Pricy but it Changed my life!!!
@charliedee9276
@charliedee9276 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with South Main on this one. I too live in a rust belt area (Michigan). Get an Astro in the mix, I'd love to see if anything is tougher. After trashing quite a few OTC, Maddox and completely destroying a Pittsburgh the Astro seems to laugh at rusted in place ball joints
@sammbarnes7960
@sammbarnes7960 2 жыл бұрын
I use those for ball joint installation. I've busted or broke too many big, expensive kits to use them for removal! Snap on, matco, etc.
@kevinbaker5630
@kevinbaker5630 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this channel just get better and better would recommend you guys test the otc ball joint press next
@potatosabot6903
@potatosabot6903 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this jig used to test spring compressors
@jedidiahmora6921
@jedidiahmora6921 2 жыл бұрын
While not a ball joint press, the Snap-On TAP1 brake anchor pin press is designed to be used with a 3/4” impact. Taking that press to the limit would be cool. Keep the good content coming.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 Жыл бұрын
I've had good luck with OTC suspension tools. I've abused the heck out of their front end puller set and haven't broken anything. I used a puller to press in a ball joint with an impact.
@EATSLEEPFARM
@EATSLEEPFARM 3 жыл бұрын
I use the Astro a lot and it hasn’t failed me yet 💪 would like to see it tested
@bleach_drink_me
@bleach_drink_me 3 жыл бұрын
I use the HF one, has worked fine. Nice to see a test of ball joint presses.
@Aspire198
@Aspire198 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, that's legitimately impressive how much force these things are capable of. Especially the hazard fright example
@danashay
@danashay 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Good job. Good to know I'm not the only fella that ponders these things. Bravo!
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 3 жыл бұрын
This channel just keeps getting better.
@mikeeustice4452
@mikeeustice4452 3 жыл бұрын
Otc brand usa made, ive had one since 2002 been using it everyday, in a repair shop no issues, no failures, in cars and trucks up 3500 dually, in ny rust belt
@jerryjohnson5545
@jerryjohnson5545 3 жыл бұрын
I have the harbor freight model. I’ve only used it for 12 ball joints, once off and once on, so 24 time. So far it is holding up but the cups and adapters are starting to deform. Great video
@theboogyman4985
@theboogyman4985 2 жыл бұрын
Lifetime warranty
@peterresetz1960
@peterresetz1960 3 жыл бұрын
What ever the brand that O’Reilly Auto Parts rents is quite good. I used one to replace the ball joints on my 2004 Chevy Trailblazer without any problems. I did lubricate the press threads with a high pressure red grease. It would had been nice if I had a high torque impact. So I had to do it with a long breaker bar with a extension.
@six0bros
@six0bros 4 ай бұрын
Was there ever a Part 2?? I have tried find it but no luck. It would be great to see astro's presses.
@blautens
@blautens 3 жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!!!! I love this. I have an Astro set I picked up used, but I suspect is identical to several other brands. It's worked well, but Im always curious when I read bad reviews.
@zachsmith7612
@zachsmith7612 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see you guys investing back into the channel.
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