Examining Bretonnia's OLD Lore for the Old World! What May Change? Warhammer Fantasy Lore Video

[@loremasterofsotek]

So in this video I barely spent any time on Louen Orc-Slayer but that's because for tomorrow's video he's going to be the main focus and we'll delve more in there. The only important notes about him in the old lore is that he takes the throne in 2201 IC and relatively early into his reign declares an Errantry War against the Greenskins which proves to be quite effective in pushing out the savage hordes. Be sure to join for tomorrow's video to learn more! Also the Affair of the False Grail takes place in 2297 IC and the Siege of Mousillon starts that same year, which is quite the quick turnaround! The siege ends 3 years later in 2300 IC.

[@cheesecake6572]

Malfleur is one of those weirdly unexplored characters from Warhammer history. She's ostensibly a Bretonnian wizard which ought to mean she's a damsel but she's very skilled with shadow magic (and possibly other lores), which damsels don't learn, and is obviously aligned against The Lady. It definitely feels like there's a lot more to her than meets the eye and then she suddenly dies and both her, and her false grail, are never mentioned again.

[@Dayz3O6]

They also said her beauty rival the Lady and she skill with illusion magic.

[@madskristiansen]

Maldred: "I'll lock the beautiful Fey Enchantress up in a dark tower, guarded by a terrible monster, in BRETTONIA! Nothing can go wrong!" And nature takes its course... XD

[@joakker8820]

Obviously saving the beautiful monster from the terrible enchantress

[@theironcrown7766]

Funnily enough, there was an old page on the Games Workshop site about Maldred having a bastard daughter, who would grow up to be one of the rare female knights in Bretonnia. Malory de Mousillon had only a sentence or so to her name, but the idea of a battle crazed woman taught in dark magic acting as champion and executioner is enough to be somewhat memorable. If GW is going to be redoing things around this time period, I wonder if she will have a small cameo somewhere. Never did have her fate stated explicitly anywhere.

[@jeffk6070]

This is just like Sotek’s old lore videos. Such good storytelling. More videos like this please!

[@CommanderBohn]

Still waiting for Questing/Grail Beasts as both monstrous cavalry and mount options. Brigands are in, so we need Herrimaults to go full Men in Tights. Still waiting for those mobile castles and flying ships. Still waiting for Naiads either as hero units, regular units or yet better as both. Also still waiting for Sons of Bretonnia.

[@Rychu19806]

My God I was waiting for this so long and it's happening Loremaster of Sotek will read for us again. I wish you all the best I love when you read for us Warhammer stories. Thank you so much.

[@markcooper3516]

I liked the video because it was the chivalrous thing to do.

[@B00Radl33]

I liked this post because it was the chivalrous thing to do.

[@sportspro2.049]

I liked the comment to the post because it was the chivalrous thing to do.

[@Quintus_Fontane]

Hell yeah, Loremaster lore! Thanks for this, Sotek. Much appreciated.

[@nate742]

If GW ever revives Mordheim, I hope they make Mousillon as a spin off location.

[@TempleOfBu]

Shame this never continued! Always loved the old fantasy lore videos! :)

[@Joebarrett0611]

Epic story telling at its best! Great job 👏

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

fav lore master talking about fav haughty french bois makes me happy

[@Psilocybear]

Love the video! I would absolutely love some similar videos about the tomb kings

[@darnpotato]

You honor the Lady with this video, Sotek 🙏

[@PuebloCrumbCorner]

ya always know it ain’t gonna be tomorrow’s video when Sotek says that lol. Not a big deal though and am always happy to see a new video from you

[@Tukenukemus]

Considering the corrupted grail, chaos spawn guarding the tower, and eyes plucked out, to me it sounds like Tzeench brought the end of Maldred.

[@archmageeldran2567]

So one thing I expect to see changed in Old World is how insular Bretonnia’s storyline is going to be. Stuff like more focus on the invasions Bretonnia suffered and lead against outside forces and also more explicit interference from other factions during the False Grail Incident rather than it just being implied and the odd monster showing up.

[@lestrike2707]

very well researched. I loved it.

[@KS-PNW]

I'm sorry but if they were going to retcon old lore why wouldn't you fix the end times???

[@loremasterofsotek]

I heavily suspect the End Times will receive pretty significant edits eventually, if the Old World continues to sell well. But if by retcon you mean make the End Times not happen, there's really just no need for it. There's 10,000 years of Warhammer Fantasy history that can be explored, which is an OBSCENE amount of time to enjoy and flesh out. Plus the End Times needs to happen for Age of Sigmar to become established along with being the genuine and inevitable ending for Warhammer Fantasy. It'd be much more exciting to check out the rest of the world and the rest of the timeline!

[@MySuperPowerIsITouchGrass]

Warhammer fantasy wouldn't be Warhammer Fantasy without the threat of the end of the world. "Raging at the dieing of the light" is a major theme of both fantasy and 40k.

[@InchonDM]

@@loremasterofsotek I think, at some point, I'd like to see them have some kind of timeline fork to bring back the Storm of Chaos timeline as an alternate to the End Times. Not just to continue looking at more future possibilities of the setting, but because I think there was a lot lot LOT of potential in the threads laid out during that era that were never adequately explored. Heck, that kind of time foolery has already happened to undo the Storm in favor of the End Times in the first place! I do agree that there's way more history to work with that's barely ever been tapped, however, so maybe exploring that first is a better idea. They need to retcon the specifics of Thorgrim Grudgebearer's death _expeditiously,_ however. Just sayin'.

[@KS-PNW]

@@loremasterofsotek I'm not saying get rid of the end times, it's part of the setting. Just maybe fix some of the worse parts and maybe flesh out some the hand waving stuff (Cathay just being gone etc)

[@NisGaarde]

Azavar Cool

[@rafalst]

Gaston the Baguette. Its all i can hear when you say his name.

[@jmiklos21]

So I heard in some stream that the boarder princes are client kingdoms of bretonnia. Is this true and if so is it new or has it always been apart of the lore

[@CyrodiilCome]

They were mostly founded by Bretonnian Crusading forces. Lots of 3rd and 4th born sons go down there to get land or fame.

[@Spenglenoodle]

Oh I have that White Dwarf!

[@Hani-yj2il]

finalllly neeww Warhammer Fantasy lore

[@RagnarokiaNG]

I hope it is written in the game rules that if playing as Bretonnia speaking with an overly fake french accent is mandatory. "He climbed the spiral staircase without dismounting his horse" That's king material right there.

[@marcusantoniuskase9770]

This is the last video and it’s 3 weeks old. Are you alright man? When will you be back?

[@ElPorpoise]

LETS GOOOO

[@TheMaltesefalcon204]

I thought Skaven were having a civil war around this time 😉

[@therasslintheatre2960]

Question: do you think they'll change Bretonna's role in the Great War by sending their men to fight alongside the dawi and Magnus' forces instead of telling them to eat shit ?

[@jonharrison9222]

More likely they’ll have them tied up doing their own thing. The only thing their King was previously known for was launching an errantry war against the Orcs.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

Nah, they are still Fantasy French

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Yeah imma say that law wouldn’t make me less deadly I prefer massive blunt weapons anyway

[@MantismanTM]

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAAAAAAAAAW

[@azaliae99]

A lore video? On this channel!? What's happening?

[@Kassen777]

The succession makes no sense in this lore. You have Louen and Joules the Just from different dukedoms so there is no way that they are father and son so its not primogeniture. The only way to have it make sense is Joules is a younger son of Louen who married the heiress of Gisoreux and then the older brother died before Louen so he became heir. Any heirs of the brother would have to be minors for even that scenario to make sense. But then the 3rd king seems to follow proper Salic primogeniture for medieval France and had tp marry in the line.

[@vortex1603]

The primogeniture law doesn't fit well in the Bretonnia lore. Before royal blood, the Roy must be elected by all the dukes and the Fay Enchanteresse, and he must be a Grail knight. That's why Louis, son of Gilles, was not chosen by the Grail Companion at first (before his Quest).

[@OtaconGamer777]

This universe where Storm of Chaos was the real result instead of the end times would be nice

[@rellek4053]

I wonder how this story will play out now that there is a female duchess of Couronne. If a woman can become a Duchess, why can’t a princess take the throne?

[@colonelsanders1349]

Because the ruler has to be a Grail Knight and Grail Knights are all men, barring an old 5th edition blurb about Jacometta de Turin.

[@rellek4053]

@@colonelsanders1349 this thing is always this thing except when it’s not. I would be surprised if that restriction hasn’t already been lifted

[@colonelsanders1349]

@@rellek4053Doesn’t look like it.

[@jonharrison9222]

Maldred/Malfleur’s shenanigans take place 19 years after the current date in the game’s setting. And you are pronouncing Malfleur wrong.

[@HH-hd7nd]

Hm...the fall of Mousillon sounds a lot as if the writers have read a little too much of Edgar Allan Poe's stories - the Red Pox story is almost a 1:1 copy of the Masque of the Red Death. Not to mention that Maldred was obviously inspired by Mordred.

[@jonharrison9222]

Well duh.

[@imwivstuipid]

Mr Loremaster please for the love of god sort out your playlists, they are such a mess! You have playlists with only one or two videos and playlists aren't organised into categories. Love your lore videos, but it's so hard to find old ones among all the mess. You can put playlists into categories which i very much recommend! Thanks for all the videos

[@KnightInFlames1]

henlo

[@ManMan-bq4fl]

Are you aware that the first new Old word novel GW released "Lords of the Lance" by Graham McNeill is full of WOKE and 3rd wave feminism ideology? It is all about multiple boss babes knights which school useless and incompetent men ("need no man" basically) and contains critique of feudalism (beyond cringe for supposed grimdark setting). Rainbow ponies and safe spaces probably coming soon? There is zero chance I will consume this kind of content or pay GW for their woke advertising.

[@Frogsquadron]

Gisoreux would be pronounced something closer to "jizz-or-uh" if you want to attempt something that sounds French-ish

[@alexpacheco2031]

Hey I smell AI writing around the lore I don’t know about everyone else 😅

[@Eric-f7x5b]

Well new bretonnian book is woke crap so go figure. Not going to get into a woke old world stick to mantic kings of war which is cheaper, balanced and not woke