Excellent Value! Thrustmaster T-LCM Load Cell Pedals Review

[@SimRacing604]

NOTE: Pedals are available for pre-sale now with the link in the description, with an estimated ship date of March 26th.

[@grahamwill7361]

instablaster...

[@InsurgeGaming]

I just got my pedals yesterday. Put them with my G29. They are amazing. They make my g29 pedals feel like an on-off switch. I'm already knocking atleast half a second off my times having just done a few races. Don't buy a wheel if you want to improve. Buy these

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

May we have an update on these pedals? Perhaps some long term, durability type of insights. Short and Sweet?

[@bobmcl2406]

Great and balanced review, Mike. Thank you. These have really caught my eye, as I had just reached the point with my T3PA (non pro) set that I was shopping for an add-on loadcell. Clearly I would do better to buy the T-LCM and let the T3PAs go to a new home.

[@yammmit]

Bob McL that’s exactly what i was planning to do although i heard i’d have to update the firmware and i have no way to do that.

[@JoeBlowUK]

Mike with his direct drive arms! 👀👍

[@SimRacing604]

Joe Blow 😂😂😂

[@nospammuppet7017]

About bloody time, long time thrustmaster fan who had to buy fanatec pedals a couple of years back.

[@azaralamouri5140]

I hope I see a video by Mike making us see all the customization options because they seem not much to me. My V3's have infinitive adjustability yet still I needed more.

[@azaralamouri5140]

Like what? Yeah the ability to slide the brake left and right is missing (not more than few mm and easy to do with the rumble motors behind), something that slides left or right same as you slide your car seat forward and backwards. Or even easier and much much cheaper idea was to include extra pedal plate big enough to be reached by your left or right foot, so that you can drive manuals and sequentials without changing anything.

[@yz249]

@@azaralamouri5140 its the cheapest lc pedal set available by a decent margin, keep that in perspective. Only real adjustability I would have liked to see that isn't here is being able to move each entire pedal forwards and backwards (so you can offset the accelerator behind the brake) but that would require a complete redesign, and I don't think the v3s or csl lcs let you do that either, so its fair enough for not having it.

[@azaralamouri5140]

@@yz249 Yeah I know they're the cheapest, this is why they're always sold out. About the V3's, you can make them thicker or thinner, but not the whole axis further or closer.

[@yz249]

@@azaralamouri5140 you can kinda do it with the tlcms aswell actually by for example not using the plastic spacer for the accelerator and using the thickest of the 3 plastic spacers for the brake, results in the accelerator being further away from the brake which is good, but also at a different angle.

[@azaralamouri5140]

@@yz249 u reminded me to add something, u can also make the travel shorter or longer in the V3's. I mean how low or high they are in the start (off) and how low or high where they pump stop (on). But still that's a different thing than the question in the reply.

[@kraM1t]

People are really underestimating how much better these are for longevity compared to the CSL Elite LC. Those use pots for the gas and clutch, and have plastic gears attached that always snap. They also get dust in them and cause spikes in signal until they eventually die and need replacing. You'll never have that problem with the HALL EFFECT sensors.

[@SIMRIG412]

Lmao. Ya mean while these new junk trashmaster are 90-95% plastic. Only metal on these are pedals,pedal arms and the metal pin that holds the pedals goes into plastic. And the Fanatec v3 for $360 are still 1000% better. The only weight to these trashmaster are a box underneath there cheap thin for plat this is filled with sand or something. Go watch sim racing garage channel he actually reviews every products and takes every product apart and does a full walk through.

[@Steve93K]

@@SIMRIG412 of course the v3 is better. it's 360$. you pay what you get for. these pedals are only 200$ ffs. stfu

[@sigkil]

@@SIMRIG412 If you watched the sim racing garage review closely you would notice what you say is not true for the brake pedal.

[@zebraafs]

Bummer, a month ago I purchased the fanatec csl with load cell, great review video Mike

[@SimRacing604]

ariel sztokman thanks man! You’ll be good with the Fanatecs, I’ve heard lots of positive things. I think Thrustmaster has done a great job with these pedals in bringing some serious competition to the CSL Elites though

[@SIMRIG412]

Fanatec is 1000% better then thrustmaster.

[@SimRacing604]

Y E says the guy that doesn’t know the difference between “than” and “then”

[@SIMRIG412]

@@SimRacing604 coming from the guy who doesn't even do a good review and lies. Pedals have a ton of adjustability 😂😂😂 ya the same holes that ever pedal set basically has. Your channel sucks anyways. Anybody wanting real sim gears reviews go to sim racing garage.

[@Steve93K]

@@SIMRIG412 hall sensor clutch and gas compared with csl elite's potentiometer? i dont think so.

[@travislohneis224]

Thanks for the review I want these pedals for sure I just have the t3pa pedals right now

[@MendicantBias1]

I had the CSL Elite with loadcell and now use the T-LCM. The Thrustmaster pedals have more adjustment on the foot pads, Hall sensors, and a more premium feel (heavier base).

[@yz249]

@Bias Which brake do you prefer out of interest? Also curious as to why you switched from the csls to the tlcms? I know the t lcms are better but not by that much, but of a side grade right? Or are they that much better?

[@iM4GiiKToXiiCz]

Waiting for your RSS Formula Hybrid X 2021!!! It's out now

[@vMaxHeadroom]

As usual you sold me again and adding these to my newly acquired T300RS GT Edition....I'll probably add the Thrustmaster 599XX EVO 30 Wheel to my set soon!!! Mainly ACC, AC, AMS2 and RF2

[@SimRacing604]

Awesome! You’re going to love them

[@azaralamouri5140]

I love that TM went for functionality rather than luxury and expensive. I hope they do a mass market budget DD as well. Or even better, I hope Logitech will make a budget DD (bullet proof as Logitech habit is).

[@azaralamouri5140]

The core of these pedals are the load cell and the magnetic sensors, this is why they are great value.

[@magical5181]

TM does have an expensive handbrake tho

[@azaralamouri5140]

@@magical5181 yeah it's nisch no one buys it.

[@AUSMarkP]

Nice review mate these look great for the money.

[@danielwaddell123]

Aren't you supposed to pass the box around until the music stops?

[@bobbavet]

OMG they actually released new pedals.

[@MrTimdtoolman1]

Great review Mike, These pedals look way better than my T3PA pedal set that I added a load cell to. The price point seems to be a no brainer if you can't spend the money for the higher end Fanatec CSL pedals which are obviously a nicer set of pedals but these are really budget friendly.

[@SIMRIG412]

Fanatec csl elite are same price. V3 cost $360

[@yz249]

Csl elite lcs are only a bit higher(maybe the same price if you are in the usa), but they are worse.

[@wwjnz9263]

Note to self... If I ever meet Mike from Sim Racing 604, do not piss him off. Those guns registered, man? It's obvious that Mike took time off from KZbin, to get swole! Finished watching the video. The springs fully collapsing is a bummer, but I am sure a rubber bumper mod (or 2) will appear before long. Some people do like extra stiff brake pedals. It's great to hear how smooth and linear the gas and clutch are. My current pedals definitely have a step feeling when rolling on the throttle. I'm really liking what I'm seeing from these pedals.

[@SimRacing604]

Ww Jnz 😂😂😂 thanks, but I’m much smaller than I used to be. Fatherhood replaced the gym for me; what you’re seeing is the last remnants of a guy who used to lift weights. By next year I’ll have arms like Kermit the Frog!

[@wwjnz9263]

@@SimRacing604 Just as long as they don't flap around like his, then you're still good. But I completely understand how fatherhood can change a fit dude into a dad.

[@SingleRacerSVR]

Great Review as always, Mr SimRacing604... but you have always done great "balanced" Reviews.... (they have my interest ; ) But get a gander at those "triceps" at 0:47 everyone --- have you been doing pushups lately, Mike hahahaha ;P

[@SimRacing604]

SingleRacer haha ha, I wish! I’m training for a 10k run these days, so no pushups for me! And thanks for the kind words, my friend!

[@goebann4856]

Are the springs as good as rubber bushings?

[@GregzVR]

I need me a set of these!

[@SimRacing604]

GregzVR I think you’d like them....

[@vatch07075]

Great review, thanks for the share! I had the T3PA set with load cell from Ricmotech. Wonder how these compare, as well as to the CSL Elite with LC. Mike, how big is the difference between these and the V3's you have?

[@SimRacing604]

Ed Berger thanks so much, Ed! I had the Ricmotech load cell for the T3PA Pros as well, and other than the inversion option, I prefer everything about the T-LCM set. I really like these pedals. I hope TM sells a lot of these units, because I think they’ve done a lot of great things for this price point.

[@yz249]

@@SimRacing604 Hey Mike, how different/how much better are the throttle and clutch on the t-lcms compared to the t3pa pro in your opinion?

[@trick6579]

Great review Mike, thanks for the information 👍🏻

[@jtwells1227]

@simracing604 bit of an odd question but which game/sim were you running in the pros and cons section?? :) Great review.

[@pmacnz]

So these are Usd$200 in the usa. In Australia and new zealand they are $500. So that's usd$350. Why?

[@TravelDroner]

Do they fit the G29?

[@SimRacing604]

Travel Droner no, unfortunately. They are meant to work with Thrustmaster wheel bases. You might be able to map them with the G29 as separate inputs, but I’m not sure

[@Mateusz28495]

I think you can connect them to pc via USB and they will work as a separate device

[@jungleAmos]

From a small apartment dweller-do you need a cockpit or other stand to use these or will they be ok if I have the out of the box base backed up against the wall?

[@Haris1977]

Width dimensions?

[@verstappa]

Shallower brake pedal means quicker braking?

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

How big of a difference is there from a properly setup g29(pretty flexible once you reach 100% brake) set of pedals vs these tlcm? Also Barry from srg was flexing them pretty badly during his rigorous heel toe testing.

[@SimRacing604]

Jonathan Chung night and day, frankly. Having a proper load cell pedal makes a huge difference in consistency for most people

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

@@SimRacing604 Would you ever consider doing a comparison between the axc truebrake mod for the g29, vs something like the next step up teir like the t-lcm? Appreciate the quality content man! ❤️ 👍

[@D4rk34g7e]

is it possible to drive these pedals without them being bolted onto a rig or do they just slide aboute due to the braking force required?

[@jonathan-wx2zx]

thank you for the video! i have Fanatec V2.5, can I use these pedals via connecting to PC USB port?

[@OldManGaming69]

Yes

[@yungdadi]

This vs V3 pedals from fanatec will be interesting

[@Floormassacred]

Great review :)

[@SimRacing604]

Thanks very much!

[@reviewforthetube6485]

To many people get blinded by material what matters to be Is usability and these pedals have it so many would say it isn't that good yet haven't even tried them me I think they sre good even without price it's stunning at 200 the way they work its so competitive I was able able drive as good if not better then any pedal I've used and I'm talking about the 2k sets I was just as consistent with these thrustamster really isn't getting credit for what they did as you said the linearity is stunning so good lol am I saying they are as good as those 2k sets no I'm not I'm saying my lap times are tho lol to me that's what matters for sure

[@kiptanoi4422]

How about If I go from t3pa pro pedals without loadcell to this set? Will I feel any big diffrence in braking? And throttle?

[@samzilla1050]

Wow never wanted to give a company my money more than I do now 😂😂 now TM just needs to come out with a newer base and they'll be killing it. Do the pedals come with screws to mount them?

[@migueloliveira3526]

I swap the spring of the clutch to de throttle... wooooow what a difference. I only play F1.

[@20Martin02]

Was somehow hoping that they'd really trick you with some rocks!😂

[@SpeedRacer24X]

Hi Mike. Great review as always. What TW wheel system would you pair with these pedals if you had to choose?

[@SimRacing604]

Roger Tregelles thanks man! I’ve only had experience pairing these with my T300, and it was great. If you have it in the budget, this could work well with the VRS direct drive wheel base as well, and should be a fantastic wheel / pedal combo for about a $1,100 USD price point

[@SpeedRacer24X]

@@SimRacing604 Thanks so much for the reply. Would the VRS Direct be too forceful for a computer desk mounting? I want to eventually get a Sim Racing Rig, but I need to save up for that too.

[@SimRacing604]

Roger Tregelles yes, unfortunately. You’ll need a rig. The Next Level Racing Wheel Stand DD is probably the best bet for an entry level option that can easily handle DD forces. Or you could build something if you have the time and energy. I raced in a wooden rig for about a year, and just bought a karting seat for about $40. The whole rig cost me about $60 including wood, screws, and paint. And it was very strong

[@MarkFisch]

Which do u like better these or fanatec v3

[@simonecorfini3628]

@SimRacing604 i have read about many ppl don't like the fact of plate material...what you think about? I actually have a fanatec V1 but it's slowly dying and i was thinking about this new TM pedals but no idea about what can feel different Do you think it can be a good (and valid) alternative to the CSL pedals? Good video BigArmsMate! :P

[@CDubLDD]

Would these be a major upgrade from the T3PA pro pedals? I was looking at a load cell mod that is ~$140, but since these are only $60 more I may just buy them instead

[@SimRacing604]

Chadd Lowe to me, yes. I had the T3PA Pros with a load cell mod, and these are much better

[@eamonjohnston6277]

Just bought mine 2 seconds a lap quicker instantly.

[@magical5181]

Sick man, how are they holding up? I’m considering buying a pair of these

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@@magical5181 buy them don't look back they sre amazing I'm more consistent with them then my csl elite with the load cell I would say the perform as good as the fnastec v3 I actually enjoy them better then the v3 lol I care about usability these pedals have that

[@magical5181]

@@reviewforthetube6485 thanks!

[@Skippy-id9yt]

I know im losing time entering corners , perhaps this might help I think I'm at the limit of the standard pedals to be honest I match the real times in assetto corsa competizione on all but the British tracks (not enough practice) and Suzuka (i hate that track for some reason ) but still behind those really good racers buy 3 to 5 seconds , if I could make up half to 1 second id be happy

[@theswartz4218]

What pedals did you have before, and what sim are you on?

[@valentusslimroast6716]

will it work to plug them into the t500rs base for playstation nuse

[@SimRacing604]

Valentus SlimROAST yes, you bet. The pedals are designed to be used on PS4 by connecting through a Thrustmaster wheel base

[@valentusslimroast6716]

@@SimRacing604 but for the t500rs as well? I can't find any documentation confirming that base, and there is no updated firmware for it

[@gplayer14]

thats not true about the buttom screws-you have 4 screw placement-two in the fron and 2 at the rear.

[@MsTheCops]

Thrustmaster must hold the record for OVER-BOXING!!!!

[@krisztm7221]

can I use them on my freezer ?

[@dbehr27]

Guys, sorry, in a hurry. But what about the gas pedal? I know it doesn't have a load cell on it but then does that mean we're back to controlling gas by distance of the pedal vs. pressure? I know in F1 2019 if you run without traction control the car is super easy to spin out of the corners. Like, I need the upside of a load cell that we get for the break for the gas pedal too.

[@michael12738]

IIIII NEEEEEED IIIIIIIIIITTT

[@welshy4638]

No 10 minute butt shot, disliked lol.

[@goldengraeme1918]

Pedal review? 6 minutes of box opening.