Thrustmaster T-LCM Load Cell Pedals Review (Stock Pedal Comparison)

[@RacingBureau]

Finally, a review I was looking for. Thanks!

[@brycekalusa1717]

No problem! I'm glad it helped you out! Thanks for the feedback.

[@aresmicah3129]

instablaster...

[@VelvetGoldminer]

Excellent, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks pal

[@xrider55]

Good review and good pedals for the price, I'm using the Red and White spring combination and 2 discs in preload spring... gives good progressive modulation in my opinion. The only thing that lacks in these pedals are nicer pedal plates, besides that they are pretty good overall. Thank you for the nice review!

[@spillwill72]

I have modded my pedal set and made load cells for each pedal, with less than 2 dollars worth of parts. Rubber grommet and some dense poly-foam. Works exactly like any expensive load cell would work.

[@EricGibson1]

Yeah I have modded set of T3pa pedals load cell for brake. Upgraded internal springs on all 3 pedals plus my clutch and throttle have and external spring configuration. Honestly it would be hard for me to change my stuff up unless it breaks.

[@floodedcarb7028]

Unless you added a load cell, your pedals do not work exactly like a load cell pedal. You pedals are still being measured by the travel of the pedal and not by the pressure applied. Which is what a load cell does.

[@jelly.1899]

@@floodedcarb7028 exactly!

[@ryanblumenow]

Can you show how you did it?

[@santu1996]

@@floodedcarb7028 but force applied is directly proportional to distance travelled. F = kx

[@Glenn7719]

Just ordered myself a set as a late xmas present. I am pretty mechanical minded, can weld/fabricate, 3d print stuff and solder no problems. I will see how i will these will hold up and how i get along with them. Ive seen other reviews and complaints about flexing of the pedals, wear and tear etc. But knowing me and i like to tinker, strip these down and put all the tech into my all metal tp3a-pros.

[@caseydean5751]

I got these a week ago or so myself and I love them.

[@brycekalusa1717]

I'm feeling the same! Did you upgrade from normal pedals as well?

[@willwastaken]

Where from? I can't find them in stock anywhere.

[@brycekalusa1717]

@@willwastaken Got mine on Amazon! Must be sold out. I pre-ordered a couple weeks before they released.

[@willwastaken]

@@brycekalusa1717 Ah I see. I'm kinda struggling at the moment haha. I might just buy them from Germany 🤷‍♂️

[@conlethbyrne4809]

I was looking on amazon for peadals on my Ps4 console, then priced the PS5, and this hard drive came up, and when I put it into KZbin, bla bla, found your video. I needed peadals as my set is old, and well past it's sale by date. Hopefully, the updated peadals work, but it's amazon, so I'm good. Great idea for gamers, more storage, thanks. Slainte Jay 👍 ❤️

[@Heart0rHead]

I race from a gaming chair (no rig) and have GTE pedals like you did but with custom load cell mod. My question is about a steeper angle of LCM pedals vs GTE, do you think it will comfortable playing from higher position than in typical sim rig? Did you try to adjust the angle with reversing the black plastic inserts between pedal and the arm?

[@brycekalusa1717]

I know what you mean. I believe I did change the direction of the insert so it gave the plate less angle and it worked out nicely for me

[@abs4728]

Is it just me or does the brake pedal just feel a bit stiffer and that's it? Im not sure what I'm supposed to feel with load cell technology.. what does it do?

[@brycekalusa1717]

It should feel much like a brake in real life. For me, I can feel it get more resistant as I press harder and it helps me modulate it more smoothly

[@abs4728]

Bryce Kalusa Is your brake resistance at 70? This is the default setting in the calibration software. I found that too strong and I took it all the way down to 0. It's just too damn strong to press the brake

[@thesackofnuts5275]

Ahmad AlSalem THATS probably why you’re not feeling what you’re supposed to. I personally run it on 90 with dead zone at 3 and its able to provide a fairly realistic feel similar to the pedals on a track car. Braking is a lot more consistent as well. (Ps. When I say 90 I’m referring to the TM software. I just let the game calibrate to the TM software, I feel that by this way I’m able to get better feedback)

[@giogamer4825]

Great review man!! Especially the comparance with the T300 GT pedal version from Thrustmaster i do own. Really great job. The only question i have or maybe you can test in a next video is, How much space can you create with the Pedal plate of the Loadcell to the far left and the Throttle plate to the far right? Thx 👍

[@jirkadolezal8127]

is it possible to connect pedals via usb to ps4 and use fanatec steering wheel? i have a usb hub but i don't have a drive hub. Thank you

[@darcyparkinson886]

Just got these pedals, have you made any changes regarding your spring combination? What brake force are you using in the thrustmaster calibration tool?

[@brycekalusa1717]

How are you getting on with them so far? I actually am running the default spring setup and default calibration and it does quite well for me now. I've gotten used to the brake at this point

[@darcyparkinson886]

@@brycekalusa1717 I'm a little torn to be honest because I had t3pa pros but my load cell mod broke and I'm really not used to the pedal travel on the lcm pedals. I'm having a lot of issues adjusting in iracing and I either go too far and lock up or not far enough and die off the track. I had like 1 inch of pedal travel on my old pedals and these new ones have like 4 inches

[@brycekalusa1717]

@@darcyparkinson886 I felt the same. It was odd to get used to for a few days. Keep working on it and also make sure your brake force factor is set to 0 in game. The extra travel will be more beneficial I promise you

[@darcyparkinson886]

@@brycekalusa1717 what I've done which feels pretty good to me now is put the brake force to 100 in the TM software and then in iracing I just calibrate the brake to about how hard I want to push the pedal. Feels better now and I am using the 2 red springs with the washers so the middle silver spring doesn't work.

[@LB-yx4yw]

Can you use these pedals inverted like the t3pa pro version? I play a lot of rally games etc and like mine inverted?

[@brycekalusa1717]

From my research it looks like you are not able to invert these, unfortunately

[@Matthew.1994]

my pedal felt so stiff on the first day. then i used it for like 6 hrs non stop and now it feels soft :D are the springs getting softer or did my leg just got stronger in just 6hrs of use lol

[@gjdriessen1]

Thanks, what wheel stand and chair are you using?

[@brycekalusa1717]

I had a GT Omega Apex wheelstand an off-brand "racing" office chair called Merax. I recently bought a GT Omega ART cockpit that I'm planning a review on

[@ianraffel6535]

How does the load cell compare to the conical break mod included in the T3PA GT?

[@brycekalusa1717]

I haven't used it myself so I can't comment accurately, but I did just watch a video on it and it seems to me like it's the same pressure the whole time whereas the load cell is a spring that gets harder to press with more and more force. I may be wrong but that's what it looks like to me.

[@andrebrait]

I have it and it's not the same pressure all the time. You need to push it harder in order to make the pedal go further. After some calibration on Dirt 2.0 and adjusting the rubber cone distance to thenpedal it's like a car's brake to me. I haven't used any LCM pedals though

[@jelly.1899]

@@andrebrait how did you adjust the rubber - to what final position and what setting did you end up?

[@andrebrait]

@@jelly.1899 so, in the end I ended up buying the T-LCMs. I tried many adjustments but not all of them worked well. LCM is indeed quite different, though. A lot better, I must say.

[@jelly.1899]

@@andrebrait thank you!😉👍

[@craigdixon7881]

Awesome review bud

[@brycekalusa1717]

Thanks Craig!

[@martin-drt]

Hi what's your wheel stand ? Does it fit for 1,83 meter boy ?

[@brycekalusa1717]

It's a GT Omega Apex. Quite adjustable so should fit just fine

[@mrj3217]

Just got these and having a hard time with these on consoles, AC, ACC , F12020. I seem to be locking up, or not breaking enough.

[@amirpenkar947]

What's the update 2 months later?

[@B0bik]

How did you ended up? Thinking about them, still not sure I would be switching from t3pa pro because potenciometers are shaky, If i clean them It stops for week then it come back again....

[@giogamer4825]

How are they now after 3 months?

[@brycekalusa1717]

Great! They're helping me with technique and consistency. I've gained about 400-500 road iRating since buying them. I could make an update video if there's interest

[@giogamer4825]

That would be great!! Thanks in advance. Hopefully you can put my other question i had in your video, regarding how much space between your pedal plates.

[@wrxpilot]

Bryce Kalusa Yes, please do make an update video!

[@BRLaue]

@@giogamer4825 I checked the spacing on my LCM set and it appears you could get 3 1/4 inches between the throttle and the brake. The same or a little more between the brake and the clutch, if that is what you are asking.

[@sapitosapo2216]

Hello, very good review. Can you give us the measurements of the springs? To go looking for different forces to make modifications that open even more possibilities. thanks and greetings

[@brycekalusa1717]

Thanks! Which measurements are you looking for on the springs specifically?

[@sapitosapo2216]

@@brycekalusa1717Thanks to you. Length, outside diameter and inside diameter.

[@mickvdzwan]

Great! Is this iracing btw?

[@brycekalusa1717]

Thanks! Yessir it is

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Love these pedals people may get upset with me when I say this but I like them more then my csl elite with the load cell lol I'm more consistent with these I enjoy the 2ay they feel more I can get rhe brake exactly how i like it I can't do that with the csl and the csl just feels off same as I didn't enjoy the cswv2.5 base as much as my thrustmaster wheen base I get they are fancy and great material which I feel slot of people like fanstrc just for that and rven if they don't enjoy the base as much they still want it due to the looks mental game is a big part of this tbh I get its smooth but for me the thrustmaster feels more weighty in its ffb delivery I feel like I'm driving a tight suspension car and I can feel the Wright like I like that feeling the csw is so smooth they wsnt it to be almost free flowing so all you feel is when the ffb kicks in and you feel the corrections its good it's strong but doesn't have that dampening/weight feel I like I think all belts should have this feeling DD I grt not having it as the ffb is so direct you feel the weight regardless but see things nobody reslly talks about due to ih its a fanstrc it looks amazing so you must like it haha ifk I think they have good stuff but not the way I like something to feel I couldn't gel with it no matter what driver or what setting keep inind this is 2 years alter and I still use my t300rs more lol I like my tgt better then both tho of course but I do expect the new fanstrc csl elite dd to be amazing and due to that being a DD and 8nmwith the boost kit and now the drivers being dialed in as fanstec is really trying hard with the new dd wheels they use and the new one should be similisr software from early reviews it feels the same just not 15 or 20mm which is fine 8nm for me is plenty and perfect I can see the new dd being used in competition everywhere due to the perfect amount of power and price lol but yeah hopefully thrustmaster comes out with a dd if they do i will def get it I am also buying the new tgt 2 base since they will sell it separately nice to hear not just in a bundle lol I love the tgt and the tlcm pedals

[@samzilla1050]

Have you had any issues with the new pedals?

[@brycekalusa1717]

No issues besides the creaking! Which seems to have went away a bit on its own. Definitely helping me with consistency and my road irating continues to go up.

[@samzilla1050]

@@brycekalusa1717 thanks for the fast reply

[@gjdriessen1]

Did you solve the creaking? What grease would you apply to them to solve this?

[@brycekalusa1717]

I actually didn't ever fix it. I've honestly just kind of gotten used to it and oddly enough I like it a little bit even. I touch on this in my updated review

[@NeoGeo822]

finally someone who left foot brakes too.

[@FaDezZ_]

just bought mine wanted to see what a normal guy would say to them ^^

[@brycekalusa1717]

Glad I could help. I figured a review from an average person would be beneficial. I'm uploading a follow-up to the review tomorrow!

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

You bought them, then looked up reviews for them. Interesting.

[@mrj3217]

My wheel is a t150.

[@Mystninja]

Good review. Im going to want a bit longer. I use a T300rs with T3PA pro pedals. And spend years playing with the brake mod to get it close to real pressure. Note it may not have the throw like T-lcm. But there fine just for PS4 project cars 2, Dirt rally 2.0 and Gran Turismo sport. If I was upgraded from standard pedals it would be a no brainer. But the past investment in the T3PA pro pedals I'm a little yeah nah at the moment. But good honest review. Maybe one day I'll upgrade. But if I do I'll jump ship to fanatic maybe or see if any new companies come out. Money is slim in the virus lockdown. But you should do a follow up video in a few months.

[@brycekalusa1717]

Thanks! Glad it helped. How do you like the brake mod? I considered doing that but ultimately decided to just go big since these were fairly cheap. I'll do a follow-up review later on on how much these are helping me.

[@Mystninja]

@@brycekalusa1717 I've had T3PA pedal and broke the brake mod. So I upgraded to the T3PA pro pedals. The mod is stronger with more adjustability. But the to get a real feel. Takes away travel distance. And you need to calibrate the pedals in every game/Sim for the shorter distance. They get a little twitchy at around 30% braking. I use to run the T3PA pro inverted gt style buy it's just not right. The angle is just not like a street car. So I use them in F1 mode like all modern racing cars. I wish the T-LCM come out when I had gotten the T3PA pros. The pros are better then the standard T3PA but I think the inverted gt style is a gimmick. But some people like it that way. Each to there own. I liked your review as it's hard to find a honest review. Most review of big channel that don't have to spend money on products tend to be a little more on the side of the company. What I've noticed with Thrustmaster Sim racing gear is. It's a lottery. I had one T300 last 4years then the next one last 3weeks and my 3rd one is still going over a year. The T3PA pedals have plastic arms and I've stripped the threads (I'm not using that pedal set) and as I mentioned before. The brake mod broke. It's a expensive hobby. But one day I'll go load cell.

[@brycekalusa1717]

I tried to make it from the perspective of a low end user so I'm glad that was good! That's interesting about the T300. I've had this one about a year and it's done well for me but I feel that I can tell that there is a bit of wear and tear. I've also pushed the force feedback to its limit and realized that it can't handle super high FFB but that's fine for me. The T3PA pedals are probably similar to the T300 stock pedals I would imagine? Definitely feel cheaper and not as resistant but honestly not bad pedals for how long I used them. Thanks for your feedback!

[@spillwill72]

I use the same pedal set Mystninja. Made my mods out of dense poly foam and rubber grommets. Works just as good as the any pedal set with a shaft and some rubber aka load cell lol

[@Mystninja]

@@spillwill72 im hoping that the next gen consoles games are up there with PC. I mostly play console. Plug and play. Maybe I little bit of messing about. I understand PC is so much better. But if the next gen PS5 and that other Xthing could play nice this PC level Sim gear alot more younger kids would get into it. Sim racing just the gear is a learning curve. But all the best

[@birkrasch6469]

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