Exchange between Vivian Balakrishnan & Pritam Singh over WP’s statement on Israel-Hamas conflict

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[@saifdeen9872]

I salute WP for taking the just and balanced stance on the issue 🫡

[@jacquelynsoo9164]

Worker's Party is saying the right thing; whether its Israel or Hamas, to condemn any acts of killing of innocent civilians. There shld be an even-handed approach to this.

[@ridz4252]

You are right. Dr VB is quite evasive in his answer on terrorism. A young guy in States went shooting innocent bystanders, would anyone think the young guy is a terrorist? WP's clarification on terrorism is clear. Anyway our laws are tight on this. No fooling around .

[@user-hk5oi4nf6t]

No, the PM is right. It would take an investigation to find out whether war crimes have been committed. But it must be done. He knows that if Singapore is attacked in a similar manner and the terrorists are using human shield, it would be hard to defend Singapore.

[@Z_LONE-RIDER]

WP all the way. Kudos to pritam.

[@iwdws]

Vivian as always trying to put on an innocent look and talk like hes gonna cry any moment yet hes most often the cunning sarcastic one

[@Hs5687]

WP & PAP Compliment each other well … just Different Cheeks of same A#&e 😊

[@zeliangwang3956]

Best actor in parliament 😂

[@stallion63m35]

Also the most useless and dumbest of the lot but still acts smart.

[@user-zd7qj1yb9d]

Cos tat hes usual fashion

[@mohdroslan2070]

It pains me to hear you talk Mr. Vivian

[@ayobghani739]

Bro Vivian… technically the HAMAS & Israel is still at WAR… what doubt do you have… unless you did not do your homework

[@bennychen5155]

why every time pap speaks it's so frustrating to listen. Or is it only me?

[@kitty2527]

It drives me up the wall listening to them too!

[@jalikind1075]

Im only frustrated because he speaks english making me confused...is terrorist a what? What? Oh man so frustrating🤭

[@eantiazenterprise9694]

Pap got no balls😊

[@majeedq65]

@@eantiazenterprise9694 they are also a good LICKER

[@user-zd7qj1yb9d]

Me toi

[@user-pm6ct9fs7p]

But it's a shame VB and Singapore didn't condemn the Myanmar govt atrocities against its people . His words here are exactly what Myanmar is guilty of . What school did VB come from ?

[@911Sept]

Depending on which way the wind is blowing, or which "school" he is from,he will yield and "dance" to the tune of his " white" master/s. Pritam is a man of honour.

[@stallion63m35]

He's supposedly from an elite very atas school but has his brains in his backside.

[@julianho6791]

He did not dare to say that Isreal occupations of Palestinian land is also an act of terror and should be condemn

[@bestbeast74]

Because Israel in the past help Singapore... by the way .. Hamas Militant only fighting the occupant of their land...

[@reymadridejos6316]

Israel only receiving what God has given them promised to Abraham. Condemning their occupation of Canaan lands is like saying God should not honor His covenant with them. Also there is no word "Palestinian" before Ottoman occupation of the land, only the Romans invented it and therefore there is no Palestine before and during King David reigns in Israel. Like Golda Meir has said " there is no Palestinians in the first place".

[@nswsw]

He probably knew more. And history there is far more complicated for an outsiders concern. But apparently youre an expert, just like the many, who suddenly became "experts" overnight.

[@user-ry4qh3ih8i]

Pls read up on history before u start parrotting

[@user-ix4hn1fh7i]

Needs guts for the truth!😊

[@ayobghani739]

Vivian…the Oct 7 incident did not happens in a vacuum..

[@user-vh3fr3lb8w]

Killing civilians is non negotiable . You can not hide your support for it by saying the killing did not happen in vacuum. You are simply supporting the hamas actions here

[@muhdluq03]

Exactly. Did he have any idea what happened 75 years ago?

[@antoinelam4835]

VIVIAN dosent have the Courage to Condemn Israel The Act Of Terror to Palestine Million of People , What A Shame To Vivan

[@xilefeimer1235]

Mr Vivian, u sound so biase

[@mangotango7647]

Will the PAP acknowledge that Israel did genocide towards Palestinians? Why call those who defend their land as terrorists and those impose apartheid are merely defending themselves??

[@soloforce6187]

Utter waste of time Dei Bala do some real work lah😢😢😢for the money you earn.

[@saujanajaya]

Acts for 80 over years is nothing to you, you're not fair, you choose 1 days acts over 80 over years,

[@xilefeimer1235]

I agree 100% with Mr Pritam Singh... my next PM

[@paparico007]

Why Vivian keep repeating the same question 😂❓ can't he understand that at West Bank there is Zero Hamas and 7000 Palestinians been killed isn't that IDf is terrorist. This is not abt Jewish, Muslim or Christian this is about Humanity. Wake up please Minister 😅

[@iamleek]

If the current gov want to show support to the westerners, to me they score FULL marks. For WP leaders, being a balance and well placed speech, to me for the westerners we may be well get a pass. But most importantly, our neighbouring countries that we so close with. I believe WP leaders presentation will get FULL marks with our regional neighbours. Well current government please be more sensitive and not to be alienated among your close neighbours.

[@jupriariffin2044]

I salute 🫡 and agree 100% speech on Mr Pritam Singh on this issue. Is balance of both side let Palestine 🇵🇸 have his own land back from Zionis isreal… Thku Sir ❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸

[@norlisa83]

WP doesn't even say that hamas is terrorist.. why must gov force them to say it??

[@mohamedbinismail7876]

Both are terrorists but Israel is the bigger terrorist, oppressing the Palestinians for the last 75 years.

[@norhishamhut3216]

If any resistance movement is classified as terrorism then our very own hero like Lim Bo Seng is by definition a terrorist by this logic?

[@kamaruddinzulkifli5243]

Hidup rakyat Gaza dibuat lsrail macam binatang dikelilingi benteng sedangkn tanah dan wilayah itu kepunyaan rakyat Palestin

[@chloemaystudy]

If i was Pritam Singh, i would ask him to clarify that he condemns the Israel killing innocent civilians.

[@goletra]

Minister, do you condemn indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians? Yes or no.

[@TToTToTT]

hamas brought all these upon their own civilians

[@clcheong6320]

​@@TToTToTTWest Bank has no Hamas but women and children are killed for decades. Isrealis killing has nothing to do with Hamas on 7 Oct. Isrealis has been terrorising the Palestinians for 75yrs. Dont be ignorant of history. Don't be naive and so narrow minded just focus on 7 Oct. What would you do a stranger who stay in your house and he forced you to a corner refused to leave and terrorised your family for years. Would you response and keep silence?

[@nswsw]

Do you study any history of any war? or is it just this incident that you're suddenly an expert? Yes or no.

[@goletra]

@@nswsw And this is relevant how? I speak for myself, he speaks for millions of people, literally, because they are apparently not allowed to have a voice.

[@nswsw]

@@goletra so are you speaking for yourself or for others. Im confused. Whichever, who is not allowed to speak? Are you speaking here? Arent many people reposting terror groups propaganda? Lastly, back at you, how is this relevant? They only disallow rally. How is that related to condemning any or free speech. Donut.

[@user-zz8ou9ss6o]

What would he said now after Israel killed the civilians women and children other than claimed to be self defence and against the international law. What’s his stand

[@habeebshaman8285]

Have you ever wondered n asked what contributed to the attacks n terrorism, On october 5 i saw on TV IDF soldiers pushing n chasing men n woman who came to pray at Al Aqsa mosque

[@shariff.mr.ID88]

Haha as usual PAP avoided the question by WP. Pritam condemn the terrorist attack. But when pritam ask what is PAP view on israhell who has been attacking Palestinian in west bank for number of years, vivian took a speed train and avoid answering it. Hypocrisy at its best

[@johnmaris1582]

PAP never claim to hold moral high ground on Israel. Singapore never sanction Myanmar and Iran. Singapore interest toward Israel remain solely in economic nothing more, nothing less.

[@shariff.mr.ID88]

@johnmaris1582 yeap. I do agree this whole saga is not on religious movement its about political movement . But whats frustrating is we can see they are so into condemning hamas which we have no problem at all, but when we return back the question whether they condemn the killings done by Israel for the past many years over innocent civilian, lost of homes n land, suddenly they turn a blind eye and ears turned deaf.

[@Hs5687]

It’s Classic PAP’s DNA … inherited from LKY’s Bad Habits… Destroyed Not Only Political Adversaries But also Influential People, Families & even entire Communities & Culture … Noteworthy, in 2010 LKY was finally Caught Red Handed & Paraded like a Common Street Criminal at Sikh Police Temple… PAP’s Policies Stem from LKY’s Bad Habits…😊

[@jerometeo6523]

​@@shariff.mr.ID88 Personally, I condemn both Hamas' terrorism and Israel's retaliation on the innocent lives. In the midst of the war now, there are millions of people going on strike globally but innocent Palestinians lives continue to be lost. I agree that unity is strength and little actions goes a long way and I have lots of respect for people who goes out of the way to condemn the actions. However, this is a matter that only leaders around the world can put a stop on and unfortunately, the voices of ordinary citizens like you and me continues to be a mere opinion. So why don't we channel our focus and energy on things that we may have more control of, like spreading love and helping the people around us and within the community? Likewise, for this debate, while i recognize that Pritam addresses a group of Singaporeans emotional distress on the situation, it does not favor Singapore from a political standpoint. So why not focus on how the lives of Singaporeans and especially those who are struggling can be improve?

[@johnmaris1582]

@@shariff.mr.ID88 In 2017, Singapore among many country condemn Israel declare Jerusalem as capital. Singapore also condemn Israel settlement in West Bank years ago. You don't like Singapore because Singapore didn't meet your standard of supporting Palestine. Compared to what exactly? Singapore have more than enough demonstrate it doesn't sing the tune of the west. Myanmar, Iran and Russia can prove that. In the words of Lawrence Wong, Singapore first. Singapore did not betray their Muslim voters and Muslim neighbors.

[@user-lb8rv3cl9c]

I wonder what is the intention of the ruling party to debate on this tropic? while there are many local issuesc to be debate.

[@stallion63m35]

Exactly! A page out of of lky's book 101. When our own problems stinks to high heavens,the pap will distract us by engaging in other countries problems as though other countries actually gave hoot what these dumb dumbs say.

[@mohamadasrimohamad3426]

V talk prata... trying to deflect the real issue.. if u condemn one and did not condemn the other.. so bias...

[@alanhoong4653]

Vivivan is wasting time.

[@andrewie4]

I believe All opposition MPs are learned and able to unanimously agree to condemn terrorism and it's harm to Singapore!! So Mr Vivian, rest assure. Furthermore Pritam was trained in military warfare and history !!

[@weewahgan6922]

Never listen to VB. How to trust someone who spend $400 million for a budgeted $100 million Youth Olympic and never explained the details of overspending and never apologise and still got the cheek to say "..even if we will to spend more, we will go ahead as it is an important milestone for Singapore..." . Very irresponsilbe guy and still get promoted by Ah Long. Now the ridout saga just get sweeped under the carpet. Sad

[@stellalim9417]

Salute Vivian, Very clear headed, factual and unbiased. He just asked simple questions. Are going into the homes or street of targeting women, children..rape, mutilation. Killing , kidnapping ACTS OF TERRORISM?

[@brendahannaford4111]

Love Singapore a beautiful country and people ❤❤❤

[@brendahannaford4111]

Best Airline Singapore 🇸🇬💕

[@necklace999a7]

NELSON MANDELA: "The lesson of history is that for the masses of the people (in Palestine) , the methods of political action which they use are determined by the oppressor (Israel gov) himself. If the oppressor (israel gov) uses peaceful means, the oppressed (Palestine people ) would never resort to violence. It is when the oppressor (Israel gov) - in addition to his repressive policies - uses violence, that the oppressed (Palestine people ) have no alternative but to retaliate by similar forms of action. And, therefore, the pains, the blood that was spilled, and the responsibility for that lies squarely on the shoulders of the [oppressive] regime of Israel gov .

[@leojohnny1139]

When the minister criticised the muslims..Ur neighbour Malaysia,Indonesia dont hold any grudges against your words

[@user-ci8kj5wb1p]

Israel stole the land from the Palestinians using terror. Instead of calling Hamas a terrorist group, wouldn't it be more accurate to call it a "counter-terrorist" group, fighting terror with terror. There was a peace maker back around 1948, Count Bernadotte, who was trying to work out a compromise to put an end to the violence, but the Israeli terrorists shot him. If you point that out, you get accused of antisemitism. But, isn't stealing Palestinians' land and killing those who resist the theft "anti-goyism"? Why do I never hear that word bandied about? I think if Singapore criticizes Israel, it risks financial losses. In this modern world, money seems to win over morality every time!

[@AstrobumTV]

Let's not forget the Palestinian flag and Israel flag was flown next to each other in 1995 in front of Yitzhak Rabin in hopes of neighborly peace. The peace treaty of 1995 ended up gone to ashes following Yitzhak Rabin's assassination by the extremist wing of Israel led by Netanyahu.

[@keejoseph3145]

Vivian is just quarrelsome.

[@tonykiang9052]

Even his teacher once said that

[@ordinaryguy1985]

I have no idea why tat terrorism word needs to be included.. any such acts regardless needs to be condemned

[@jalikind1075]

I clearly understand the meaning of terrorist...its always labelled to one side only right? If im wrong, then really i need to go back to school to study english again...

[@flikcof7910]

Did he answer the question posed by PS? Don't they know in the Westminster style of parliament, the government of the day answers questions and not the other way around.

[@eatdrinkrunwalk]

Err... Singapore should condemn and stand against all acts of terrorism on innocent civilians, especially children. As raised by Mr Pritam, Hamas is not even currently classified as a terror group in our list, so its not yet officially a terror group. In a nutshell, all acts of violence against innocents should be condemned. Would V.B also state clearly he is against all acts of terrorism and violence by both sides to make us feel assured?

[@remleeyahya4233]

Vb please respect your neighborhood country

[@gfhghdg4664]

No matter what and how, as long you make right decision the implication will be fine for your country.

[@jindycindytan5152]

If want to label hamas as terrorisium,then so is Israel la！

[@AstrobumTV]

The reason why we need both the Israeli cabinet ministers and Hamas to be investigated by the ICJ. Put them all in prison and stop this madness.

[@mohdanwari8410]

This Vivian is another big mouth!!! Hail Pritam

[@juejue8231]

Blessed Singapore ❤🙏⚘️

[@kokkeeSeck-xs5yj]

Acts of terror also applies to all acts of war which are also acts of terrorism.

[@user-pm6ct9fs7p]

Pls la , VB was trying to outflank WP . Now go classify Hamas as a terrorist org and stop generalising. The list in SG is what pritam mentions but disingenous VB talks about the UN list etc .

[@user-ix4hn1fh7i]

After analysing, I somehow felt that this was politicised....

[@roxxyroxxy4667]

Never read history wayang only 😂😂

[@limsoopeng8432]

What is United Nation stand on this issue? Are they the body that with so many wise men in their organisation to give clear verdict on their activities and conduct, since they established all the fair laws for the world. Let them say and let us follow them in goodwill and trust when united nation was formed. And we should not conduct such discussion, which usually may not be fruitful but damaging. We have many internal issues to look into and let focus on that. Save energy.

[@keejoseph3145]

Everything seems ambiguous to people who are out to slime regardless. VB should stop getting confused and get back to work instead of forever picking on the opposition.

[@attybong]

is this workers party similar to that in australia?

[@leojohnny1139]

Spore Minister are all America Apple Polisher

[@AlbertEng2007]

VB come from lousy school lah

[@leojohnny1139]

Spore minister should condemn Israel,jst bcoz Spore got American backup..doesnt mean they can do anything they like

[@mattaraya]

As normal he tries to evade things often.

[@voshak]

Like this also want to debate. Can you guys also debate on the issue of whether chicken or egg comes first? Please focus on housing and inflation. Not whether a terrorist label has been used or not used. For the love of God.

[@mattaraya]

Please lah enough its enough.Plse take care of ourselves. Don't get involve.We r only a tiny dot.Bro Vivian.

[@benedicttan1916]

They like to hear their own voices ..suka suka lu.

[@ongchinlam4631]

Why. How come MSF Comcare woodland branch make senior citizen life difficult why why why

[@newconvert2962]

Let them keep talking..for the believing hummah remember everyone in your Dua.. Don't lost your Emman listening saitans.

[@Jackpot1711]

Dr V .. i support PAP.. bet wherever you speak, I'm struggling to stay awake

[@mattaraya]

The story of october 7/ 23. Some is not true.Israeli saya itself.This happen since 1948 or maybe earlier.I hope its not confusing for us.

[@eantiazenterprise9694]

Dey thamby😊

[@necklace999a7]

Except for children ,there are no civilians in Israel as all women in Israel are members of Israel military and are trained in handling guns and military weapons .

[@malgudidays3311]

WP rather tricky...for their own convenience they arrowed back that Hamas not govt terror list. This is what is termed as obfuscation. WP must stand on principle and for all Singaporeans.

[@clarenceyeoz]

Painful to watch.

[@hatemkandil1286]

Minister go back to school

[@marcpanther8515]

What happened to him ... aged like +20 years

[@user-ix4hn1fh7i]

Vb ... have the same say for israel.... for me Israeli is more terriorst. And sorry to say, you have somehow made this a political talk which was not needed.

[@whm5511]

Sad to witness Pritam's befuddled mind on this issue.

[@alfredlim6189]

We are talking of what Hamas committed was heinous and hallmark of a well intended terrorist design. So let’s not argue and get everyone confused.

[@AstrobumTV]

And reacting to a crime with another crime is also a hallmark of terrorist design. So let’s not argue and get everyone confused.

[@saujanajaya]

Malaysian pm answered ur question

[@MYBS88]

WP takes the balance approach. That’s 100% correct. Dr Vivian, why you want to rush in labelling Hamas as terrorist? They are simply resisting the occupying force.

[@jibrasome3489]

Vivian is like me trying to pick bones meaninglessly out from a stack of hay. Just trying to fish words and be anal.

[@user-zz8ou9ss6o]

Don’t take sided

[@Zuerst-ym9bm]

The audacity Vivian thinks Pritam is doing it for votes. Come on now, don't place yourself so high up that pedestal. You never had that much resounding vote to begin with. Pfff😂😂😂

[@mikechiam2032]

People who listen to the word "even handed approach" and get their pants wet do not understand how difficult it is for a country to size of Singapore to navigate itself between the sharks in order to survive, let alone thrive. Not that what the Israelis settlers are doing are not asshole behaviors, you and I have the freedom to say what we want in KZbin or edmw, the gov does not.

[@SALMANRUSDIE]

Why others country still silent to receive palestine refugees ..if they care about Humanity 😂😂😂

[@AlbertEng2007]

he comment because they are opposition very jialat

[@leojohnny1139]

Well Pritam Singh whatever U say the right things..you are born to be opposition..but your words wakeup the anti muslims in Spore...Bravo Pritam Singh

[@compass101]

MONEY AND INTERESTS HIJACKS REASON.

[@squiggy18]

I think many comments missed the point. Hamas entering Israel to murder civilians is a terrorist act. There is no justification, even WP says this. Israel oppressing Palestinian is oppression, but it does not rise to the same level as terrorism. Trying to equate them is minimizing the act of terrorism. Asking the government to explain their views on Israel's oppression in relation to Hamas terrorist act is attempting to justify 1 for the other. This is dangerous, cos it means that any act of terrorism, can be justified if the aggressors feels it is aggrieved enough by their own standards. Especially if it is performed on Singapore. We all understand the same logic as applied to rape. Rape cannot be justified just by the way the woman dressed. One act does not justify the other.

[@shariff.mr.ID88]

Why does hamas enter israel is consider terrorist but israel killing civilians in palestine is consider oppression??

[@squiggy18]

@@shariff.mr.ID88 Because Hamas didn't enter Israel for BBQ and Tea time. They entered and butchered civilians. Israel is guilty of oppressing Palestine rights to self-determination and freedom, but it would be extremely difficult to say that before Oct 7, Israel has been systematically butchering civilians.

[@confucious1518]

You missed the point too, WP mentioned that all acts of violence regardless of groups or organisation deserves condemnation. Your statement is also dangerous as you are encouraging the bombing of Gaza civilians and hospitals as a ‘justified’ retaliation to Hamas attack. Stop being a hypocrite.

[@squiggy18]

@@confucious1518 I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that I 'justified' it with my statement above. I guess nothing can stop a determined mind in twisting words.

[@mangotango7647]

You need to be educated. Do not live in a bubble. Look up for Scott Ritter, Ilan Pappe, Norman Frekeinstein and watch other media channels besides CNN and CNA. Learn what is zionism.Then you can make your judgement.

[@musaanis9145]

Talk so much. how about more 70 years israel do what ever they like to the Palestinian people and land. want to talk must talk the fact don't turn here turn they.

[@Jamesyipkl]

Bhai missed the main point. Which came first? Terrorist attacks or military actions? Don’t speak like a mamakutty.

[@AstrobumTV]

Terrorism of Israel came first. Yitzhak Rabin who almost united Israelis and Palestinians got himself assassinated in 1995, all because of a treaty that ended up in ashes after he was assassinated by the extremist wing led by Netanyahu himself.

[@sttan2631]

Talk talk go to the root cause.. Not talk rubbish

[@MrRebl72]

Seems like Bala is a cherry picker

[@shariff.mr.ID88]

His face expression tells it all. He could be the best cherry picker at a cherry farm

[@mangotango7647]

Working at US farm? 😅

[@saujanajaya]

Pritam Singh is more correct

[@Raymond_Petit]

What a putz!

[@reymadridejos6316]

Both condemns killing of civilians. Killing violates Gods law. But comparing both ways of killing, I think Hamas is worst, like animals not human. They are the ones initiates this conflict in the first place. The bearded one do not know that the whole land of canaan was given by God to Abrahams offspring thru Isaac and Jacob whom God changed name to Israel. That why Israel only receiving what God has given.

[@ramlansaruan8194]

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck! So the occupiers too is a duck after all..even before the 7th of October.. Have a good day,sir.

[@rr4860]

No need to hear

[@user-fb7rf4kr5k]

Pritam is wrong here. When people are killed, including innocent civilians, that's terrorism, never mind the cause. It cannot be a military operation. If Singapore has the laws of the jungle, it'll go kaput. What is Pritam thinking here?

[@99Murano]

So the follow-up by IDF should be labelled genocide or ethnic cleansing

[@tonykiang9052]

These 2 merely arguing in this matter, no substance to it, no political points gained

[@saujanajaya]

Workers party is better

[@user-ec3nz2vm2n]

Ask him to tell that to Anwar.. see have the guts?

[@jslam1232]

Please don’t compare our politicians to third world Islamic state politicians

[@leojohnny1139]

Find out the real true story..then U can framed Hamas as terrorist..we muslims can accept it..but if it is a reverse story..do apologise for goodness sake

[@jemchan]

English class

[@namazlur78]

Islamophobiac vivian, he is a jew?

[@user-ng6en5bj3z]

Oppression link to uprising and carnage.