Exciting or Crazy Craps Strategy?

[@tylergibson7763]

I can see the dealers eyes rolling on this one.

[@ColorUp]

I see dealers roll their eyes at everything that isn't their style

[@jackbeedle2956]

Love it thanks,Jack in Minnesota

[@kenross4453]

@5:40, you should have put $50 in the field since you'd just lost a field bet on the 7. It would have hit that next roll, meaning your end total would be $25 higher.

[@cheeseballs3825]

I like that gale bet in the field. Could be a big payday, you get up to a couple hundred and hit 2 or 12.

[@kathyoliva6966]

Scary! But interesting

[@theasommmm1]

I've been playing it in the sim, and it works great strat

[@pbabuik]

Looks like an action strategy more then a money maker

[@DuggleBogey]

Many of the craps machines won't allow these types of bets also.

[@ColorUp]

correct

[@samranch4519]

Is it scaleable? what happens if you lower the bets is there a point of diminishing return?

[@Crashphoenix666]

The electronic and bubble craps machines I've been on won't allow the dewey dont. Same for a couple of Harrah's casinos I've been to. I'd like to give it a try though.

[@pwade4061]

Get a friend you trust sit next to you bet the DP/DC while you bet the pass line/come with odds and use a shared bankroll lol.

[@classifiedsincebirth]

If the dont bet ends up on the 4 or 10, I lay odds on that and the dont pass line. no odds on 5 and 9. I place odds bets on the 6 and 8 if the come bet goes there and odds on pass line. My odds are determined by either the 4/10 or 6/8. I stay neutral on 5 and 9. If that makes sense. I play mathematically not hunches

[@ColorUp]

Mathmatically it doesn't matter if you take odds or lay odds...The bet pays true fair odds for chance taken to win or lose no matter which number.

[@timmarmontelo3256]

Im not a big fan of doing all that extra at a table. Still learning but I might try this on a roll to win on electronic craps. Ty

[@KeiyaHood]

I always play the do and the don’t with the 12 in mind as a consequence so I will do a crap check on the come out. Tables in my area start at $25 and most weekends are $50 and $100. This way I get action, I am eligible to shoot when it’s my turn and it basically let’s me turn the table minimum into what I want whether that be $0 or any amount above the minimum on the do or don’t line. This is a GREAT strategy when dealing with the high rent district. 😊

[@JoeFerber]

I ALWAYS also do a protective measure bet on the come-out roll by taking a C&E bet!

[@g0avs3327]

If I could get 2 and 12 to pay triple like on your table, I'd go for it, but now-a-days your lucky to get one of them to pay triple. If I did it, it would do it without the martingale. An $800 bet to win $25 is definitely crazy

[@matthewbaker5630]

As far as i know most tables in vegas pay triple on the 12 except for the 10x odds or $5-10 minimum (If Excalibur is slow they will do $10 minimum triple 12)

[@JoeFerber]

@@matthewbaker5630 NOT true, MOST tables in Vegas play DOUBLE for the 12, only a select FEW pay triple!

[@georgesockett3316]

i like this..will give it a try..havent seen many i can say that about

[@stayflexin5526]

ETG this would be fun too

[@jonhutto580]

I'm not really a do/don't person.. But it did make profit..

[@chenryrex]

I love these videos. I'm going to try this strategy on my next trip.

[@pokerman9108]

I see this guy in reno all the time. I should say hi sometime… 😂 great videos

[@ColorUp]

Yes you should 👋

[@josephross7936]

May $10 table & no field bets would be ok.

[@justdigginit1331]

Why would you put odds on come4 and not don't. Don't you have better odds on the don't?

[@justdigginit1331]

Lol I resumed and 7 out

[@aebalc]

It makes no mathematical difference if you wager your odds on the don't or the pass - the bet is true odds meaning there is no advantage either way.

[@justdigginit1331]

​@@aebalc the point was 6 so you have more way to hit the 6 then the 4 so shouldn't you have put odds on the don't 4,10 should be don'ts the 5,9 are a wash and 6,8 are comes for me imo

[@justdigginit1331]

I'd say the pass line would be the same

[@ColorUp]

example #4. You are twice as likely to lose bet so you win 2 to 1 for the odds bet. If you bet the don't odds, you are twice as likely to win the bet, so you have to bet twice as much and win back half or 1 to 2. Doesn't make a difference how you play, it pays true fair odds of chance to win vs lose. The correct bet is the one that will win

[@erikcharlat9844]

super interesting way to go about it for sure. have never played the doey dont before.

[@JoeFerber]

HO-LEE Mutha Fuckin' SHIT!!! This strategy is FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!! There is a SHITLOAD of action going on here and the Martingale Field bet is VERY exciting!!! It doesn't SEEM like this is a losing strategy, and this is a strategy that I might consider using in the REAL world, but for a $10 table, but I would have to figure out what would be the SBR - Starting Bankroll - for BOTH a $10 and $15 table, because I most likely would NOT have enough for a $25 table! By the way Jeremy, how FAR did he say to go with Martingaling it with the Field bet? Did he specify a limit, or does he just keep on going to the table max???

[@miker6402]

Looks interesting and fun! Well, fun because you won! If you had lost, I guess I woulda said, "Looks interesting and not so fun!"

[@ColorUp]

Haha, facts

[@jeffcurrie7027]

Like this. Field losses are easy number to hit, 5 6 8. Field covers the 12 push. Especially on a 3x table. Could be played at any level.

[@BobBrewster]

Interesting. Not sure what to make of it yet. I'm thinking the martingale action in the field might cause you to lose big profits.

[@saramunozmunoz]

At the same time, it looks like a lot of that profit came from $100 Field bets. They got lucky though for sure; I can see that going sideways easily.

[@vvgman]

i joined, i love you craps strategy videos, i am probably too stupid to come up with my own except my superstition when a seven will hit and i go off on all my bets!

[@ColorUp]

Appreciate you.

[@Twinsen764]

I like how the first numbers you rolled were my numbers in order.

[@phiberoptik232]

Like with any other table play, it works until it doesn't. The strategy is less important than the timing of it in action.

[@creightonhart5654]

Great point!!!

[@ColorUp]

correct

[@bowlingthunder2003]

Truer words have never been spoken!

[@releksdrood8444]

The classic dealer stroke job , a lot of work for our boys on the table , make sure you’re tipping well if you play this type of system, also if not for the field bet which could pretty much be played without all the strokey bets , he would have lost or broke even , so again make sure to tip those dealers on this one

[@ColorUp]

lot of work to basically do a 3 point Molly with single odds? your just moving the come and don't at same time. pretty simple. But players should be tipping regardless

[@ReaverLordTonus]

It's an interesting strategy but you need a large bankroll as I ran this through a simulator with only $500 and it went okay for a while but what killed me was 4 back to back 8s and before I knew it I martingale'd everything away on the field and a 7 out finished me off.

[@ColorUp]

Yep, the martingale is the big hole here. If you can avoid six non field in a row I guess it's fine, but it will eventually bite, and bite big.

[@herigonz0125]

Interesting system. When you first explained it, I thought it wouldn't work. If you're rolling field numbers, this is incredible. I think this might be interesting to play at a choppy table. All too often I see people roll a bunch of Field numbers after establishing a point and eventually 7-out.

[@ColorUp]

Great point!

[@Mark-ko3mr]

If you boil this one down, it seems like just Martingaling the field with the other bets being pretty level. So, on a short term, you have a decent chance of positive returns, but also the risk of a catastrophic loss.

[@ColorUp]

proper analysis I think

[@scarygary]

I liked this system! Gonna have to give it a try

[@smallestviolin6064]

Ima be in Vegas April 23. Hope to hit a table with you. Bringing some coworkers who never played craps. You know how new craps players usually shoot.

[@ColorUp]

Oh yeah, have fun and ride that first timer luck wave!

[@MrGordonSims]

What a sweet roll that was. The Field especially was very kind - I think every time you Martingaled it up to a black chip, it hit!

[@puma509]

as always, great video. I didn't expect that much of a color up. I will have to give it a try. Thanks George!

[@ColorUp]

Thanks for watching!

[@stayflexin5526]

Yeah I’m definitely playing this the dealer gonna have to suck it up it’s there job

[@teddywebb2458]

I’d say it’s both exciting and crazy!

[@ColorUp]

fair

[@blackmagick77]

Feels like there is too much going on for no reason. Like the field feels unnecessary. Feels like all it does is waste money. The DCs don't feel great either. Even when you hit 7 you still get wrecked because of all the odds

[@vvgman]

one more thing i forgot to mention! comps! if they comp you at your average bets it will be awesome, not sure if the will discount your do-ey don'ts, if they dont expect to get lots of comps. as tokyoscarab said, you need to tip or bet for the dealers

[@test-ne2qk]

Do you know about the one roll hard way bet that pays 35 times your bet?

[@CJC196743]

No such thing.

[@ColorUp]

Sounds like roulette...you can hop a hard way number to get paid 30:1

[@deaconfrost6229]

around the 6 min mark, you 7ed out & did not martingale the field.

[@ColorUp]

Thanks, must have missed it

[@andrewcoover3636]

Very interesting strategy. I would like to see maybe a $10 table. Don’t have $2k to blow lol

[@ColorUp]

Me either ha

[@jeffreyhall3748]

The good thing is that it is completely scalable down to minimum bets. I like the $25 level for the higher rating and it make it more exciting for me. That is the point of gambling. And no systems is perfect or completely safe. :)

[@prohibitioncasinoparties9821]

Crazy exciting! Never thought of playing Do/Don't simultaneously and it seems like the odds and the 2x/3x payouts keep the profit flowing. Would love to try this strat.

[@TokyoScarab]

All I can say is you better be actively tipping with a system like this because your dealer isn't gonna be happy with all this work you're making them do 😛

[@miker6402]

Just curious, why the extra tipping? Do the craps dealers have something written in a contract where it says they are not expected to work hard at their job?

[@ColorUp]

What's the extra work? moving a don't come bet up behind a number? Without the don't come bet, its a simple 3 point Molly with single odds

[@pwade4061]

If anything it’s less work. You aren’t pressing numbers, betting weird amounts or taking anything down. Field bets are easy to pay out too

[@bsheaves]

Friends don’t let friends martingale at the craps table. Save that nonsense for roulette

[@jimklemens5018]

The problem with that strategy, in my mind, is that the Doey Don't and then adding Odds, will typically give you an average bet of $1 for your player rating. If I have $200 to $500 on the table, I want my average bet to be in that range.

[@ColorUp]

a single pass line bet which would be $25 subject to 1.4% and they rate at $25 bet so they should be rating you at $50 per bet as its $50 subject to house edge of about 1.38%

[@jimklemens5018]

@Color Up Jason at Sin City Living says that he rates a Doey Don't at $1.

[@ColorUp]

@@jimklemens5018 I get it, and fact craps rating is subjective is crazy and a problem with the game. But he rates it $1 same reason some casinos refuse to allow the play, which just doesn’t make sense. If you do the math, it is not some secret player bet that is somehow beneficial. The casino actually makes double the $ on the bet.

[@cpolitz]

So I kind of like this one to be honest, especially for a $25 table which has ruined me before. You have about a 2% risk of ruin on this though. As I got up I would probably put more odds out instead of establishing more points. Most the steady money is coming from the field and occasionally you get lucky and hit a double payout on a large martingale. Really gets the blood pumping when you have $400 on the field. Probably for degens only but definitely trying this out next time I happen upon only $25 tables.

[@muhammadcurtis6759]

This is an offbeat system, and it definitely has potential. I wouldn’t use it for myself though. I prefer the one I use presently.

[@zackd2852]

What is your current system?

[@Sh00terMcGavinXL]

7 out, line away, pay the Don'ts

[@JoeFerber]

Thanks Captain OBVIOUS!!!

[@phillipharris9845]

High Volatility indeed. I can see this as a way to get comps over time in a fairly risk free way (the 12 being a minor but still present hole) odds don't really get rated from what I can see, but you could always increase your flat bet in order to increase your average bet.

[@ColorUp]

Yeah, really the field bet is the volatility, so you could just eliminate that part ?

[@clueless9245]

Phew! 11:13 the 7 rolls You say the lay is a loss, but paid it. I do not have the money for this strategy! Maybe half your money is hedged. The field martingales, so that is relatively hedged. That leaves odds on the come bets and pass line at risk. At end. You made $550? Looked like tons of losing to me. Deveptive.

[@jimklemens5018]

The Doey Don't and Odds get a $1 average bet rating.

[@vvgman]

this is exciting! I thought you explained that the field bet is no good, at this rate you would lose $72.5 minimum plus when you lose you double the bet so it can be difficult to figure actual losses because it is based on the individual rolls. so it seems like this is the gamble here. do-ey don'ts push except for 12, so you are getting a "free" odds bet at the correct payout. so shouldn't you increase your odds bet and drop the leaky faucet field where martingale can break you?

[@ColorUp]

I think if the goal is to get free odds, with doey don't, I agree I would put more money there.

[@Dee2thekae031]

#hedgegod I like the field doubling, that was very interesting. I've though of it, but never done it. And to see it work, was cool. I also see a few things to improve his odds. He could try placing field winnings on odds, and maybe placing don't come odds instead of come odds when the table turns cold. Or placing odds after 6 rolls to hedge it more. Idk

[@alkayboe652]

Very well done video, Color Up. I like the strategy and agree that without the field, it’s really pretty conservative play ➡️ with a lotta action! For me I might up the field by one unit after each loss up to a maximum of say $100. Thx again Jeremy!

[@ColorUp]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jrr7031]

Id say if you have the bankroll and like to get "comps".....this is probably agood one.

[@jimklemens5018]

Only the Field bet would be rated.

[@skyedge3407]

Here's why it's godawful. You are losing money on the 12 gradually over time, plus Martingale only works on even bets, field has terribly high house advantage. Everything about this is terrible.

[@ColorUp]

I would advise against martingale personally, but losing to the 12 with about 1.38% HA, isn't terrible. can't really do much better at craps...In the end all craps strategies lose gradually over time

[@GiZmYfReSh]

first

[@ColorUp]

thank you

[@ray6976]

First