#EXCLUSIVE

[@parmentier7457]

Everyone complains about the European short-haul business class seats. - The distances between European airports are short, with a flight time of 45 minutes to a maximum of two hours. -The demand for economy tickets is high. The ticket price at the legacy airlines costs around €100-€200, while KLM Business class from Amsterdam to Brussels costs €850. The flight time of 50 min is not worth buying a business class ticket. - So if KLM places 12 or 14 business class seats, they will never all be occupied and therefore not profitable. I think most European business class travelers are travelers traveling via Amsterdam as a transit for a long-haul business class flight

[@bobvdvalk]

Spot on mate

[@tomstravels520]

Surely any sane person wanting to travel for business would take a train between Amsterdam and Brussels?

[@plutoamor]

are you sure you know your geography? flight times vary from 45' to 5-6hrs depending country and destination. AMS-LCA is 4h and ATH-AMS is 3,5h..LHR-OTP is 3,5 and LCA-LHR is 5hrs, not to mention flights to FNC, TFS,LPA take from 4,5-6,5. LIS-DUS is 3h, NAP-EDI is 3,5h and ATH-DUB 4h 20'

[@tomstravels520]

@@plutoamor but airlines are rarely going to have aircraft specifically for those routes with bigger seats because then they are confined to those routes only. You then loose flexibility for if you need spare aircraft

[@xandrios]

@@tomstravels520 Thats not the point though. The point is that there are many daily rotations to destinations further away than the stated 2 hrs - and for those routes the business class product really is not great. Why would one pay 2-3x to fly business in Europe if all you get is an inedible meal (Wanders box..) and a little extra space.

[@Wannabearborist]

0:40 my favourite shot, a beautiful new plane together with my favourite plane in my favourite livery and my favourite drone… all that in 1 shot 🤩🤩🤩

[@simonechellini7309]

Thanks man!

[@Wannabearborist]

@@simonechellini7309 did you record that?

[@simonechellini7309]

@@Wannabearborist yep, check video credits :)

[@Wannabearborist]

@@simonechellini7309 sorry, I was to focused on the plane to notice the credit lol 😂 good job, nice footage

[@simonechellini7309]

@@Wannabearborist haha no worries, I am really glad you liked it!

[@MrJetLuxe]

Just a stunning aircraft 👍thank you

[@paulfreeman5756]

Appreciate you sharing your moment with us of history neo day 1 klm mmm

[@itsindiplayz838]

No airplane in klm fleet can beat klm b747 we miss klm b747 and it was emotional farewell

[@epenos2154]

the 737 NG will be missed, congratulations KLM

[@ayushprasad5742]

I would like to fly their first flight with the new aircraft🎉

[@andrewj591]

Understood

[@AirwaysMagazine]

We might be on board 👀

[@tonaldrump69]

I would nut all over the new toilet seat

[@tonaldrump69]

Can I sit next to you and smell your farts during take off?

[@NintendoGamer248]

Aww, that’s a cute A320 neo! Congrats KLM

[@Tim_3100]

Tv in seats seems to becoming a thing of the past these days with most people using mobile and most airlines having wifi

[@BrianKoudijs]

Geweldig toestel. Hahaha was dat Butterfly van Jason Mraz?! Dat liedje gaat niet echt over vlinders 😂

[@alcideslages8326]

Só falta a klm voltar a voar doméstico na Holanda tbm com os 737700 ou 800. Pra Maastricht.

[@naturallyherb]

Amazing!

[@ulusguy]

I read somewhere the seat pitch from aft of the wing to the last row is 30”. 😩

[@tomstravels520]

That’s kind of standard

[@aviationazzurraita1486]

The A321neo of Ita airways have better business class 😩

[@r12004rewy]

Looked pretty smart inside and out, certainly a good move for KLM moving away from Boeing.

[@zaiivonhest]

The seat looks so incredibly uncomfortable. 1,5 hours maximum

[@htimsid]

Which seat? And you can judge this just by looking at it?

[@AviationFin]

Nice 👌

[@D4rthDuck]

Why Not the New Multi purpose Landing Lights?

[@khalidabdulghani]

I was thinking the same too

[@flightpilot001_Reacts]

@@send2wj but Eurowings has it

[@09shadowjet]

This particular airframe was probably start being built before Airbus implemented the new landing lights

[@flightpilot001_Reacts]

@@09shadowjetno the eurowings a321neo has them

[@fibreglass9976]

Where's the in-flight entertainment system?

[@tonaldrump69]

In your mothers arse

[@HammieNL]

If the flight is shorter than an average movie... just grab your phone and relax 😊

[@caquinterol]

❤❤❤❤

[@xandrios]

I really like the A321 and prefer it to an B737. However KLM has really made some terrible decisions here with their interior. The seat pitch is much too low further down the back of the aircraft, especially as these aircraft will be used on 3-4 hour flights as well. Sitting in the back of one of these for 4 hours will be intolerable on your knees and back. The foldable headrests are only available for business and economy comfort, which is just a cost cutting measure - that should have been standard. And no curtain for business class? This will make sure half of the economy cabin will be using the forward lavatory. Yet another business class perk gone.

[@htimsid]

Any seat could be more or less comfortable depending on height and weight.

[@Dialoguematters]

seat pitch.....oh.....

[@Gideon01]

It looks very clean. Other than that, nothing to see here.

[@guinessbeer]

No seatback entertainment?!

[@MrAronymous]

Most flights on this thing will have a shorter time in between take off and landing than a regular Hollywood movie. They do offer paid streaming wifi (and free wifi messaging).

[@xkr510]

European ‘business class’ is so bad. Nice aircraft though

[@gerhardma4297]

Only for those for whom education has failed. There is no country “Europe”. Europe is a continent and therefore there is no European Business Class but a Business Class of the Dutch airline KLM or a Business Class of the British airline British Airways or a Business Class of the German Lufthansa. And all look different. In addition, the A321 Neo is not a long-haul aircraft and no suites etc. are offered for the shorter routes. What does an “American Business Class” in the comparable Boeing 737 look like? Not different than here. Knowledge is power my friend.

[@newforcemedia]

​@@gerhardma4297I agree with you! As if the USA and Canada can be called just "America" 😂

[@lvovodessa]

@@newforcemediaAmericas or North America.

[@newforcemedia]

@@lvovodessa I don't mind. I don't live there. Same as Americans don't care about European countries 😁

[@dxrblue6422]

That’s just klm I am a platinum member they have disgusting food too in the business class

[@PaoloInvernizzi-f9s]

New ITA AIRWAYS A321NEO it's better than KLM. ITA have a really Business Class as long haul flights. I never seen Business Class with 3 seats, so 😔

[@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298]

I didn't see a business class.

[@ArlieTaschereau-i2w]

Kenton Branch

[@van0tot100]

Why is there so much hype around KLM buying one of the most popular narrow body aircraft?

[@1EnZBosS1]

Idk about hype, but klm is typically one of the last airlines to adopt a new aircraft. Also going from historically boeing and MD to now changing full stop to airbus is quite notable.

[@albertaosabu4097]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@JoyceKelly-w8w]

Kimberly Tunnel

[@weok-doing-things]

I wonder is it a "leather" seats in the economy. If so it is not good - getting sweaty preatty well

[@timfly767]

European business class should only deserve the name Premium Economy, at best. Even with such a more accurate name, there is still no increase in legroom, only the middle seat is unsold. It's a complete rip-off.

[@gerhardma4297]

Yet another American who has completely failed at education. First of all, there is no European Business Class. Europe is a continent, not a country. When will you uneducated Americans finally realize that! KLM is the Dutch airline and if this plane had a business class at all, which it doesn't - just a few premium economy seats - it would be a KLM business class! Where in this report, which had not a single statement, did you even hear or read that the A321 has a business class? The plane is used on short haul where only idiots would pay the extra for a business class and there it makes zero sense. Next time try to be knowledgeable before you make a fool of yourself again.

[@smeshsmesh9695]

I was shocked on a Brussels airlines flight when I saw 'business class" was molecule for molecule exactly the same. What distinguished it was a cardboard sign on the shoulder of a seat on one of the front rows saying 'business class" 😂. I can't help but feel sorry for whoever paid for that 😭.

[@danielbagliettoseymour2802]

Beautiful,Sexy & Blue! 💙🤍💙KLM💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍🛩🛩🛩🛩🛩🛩🛩

[@christerry1773]

Love the NEO, but I really wish klm would create a new livery

[@htimsid]

What, in your opinion, is wrong with the current livery?

[@christerry1773]

@ they’ve had it forever.

[@killianpotworoska3096]

Dat ziet er weer ongelofelijk koud en saai uit die hele kleurstelling alsof permanent de airco aanstaat! Bijzonder onaantrekkelijk zakelijk en onpersoonlijk! En nog steeds geen standaard WIFI aanwezig binnen de KLM vloot pure armoede! En die cockpit je zou maar een vlieger zijn en van de Boeing in deze dodelijk saaie cockpit moeten stappen het werk werd al saai maar nu ook nog je werkomgeving;-)

[@panagiotiskardiasmenos9408]

Still no business class. Normal economy seats until one point then "ryanair" no recline seats till the end. This is indeed new era for KLM ... Unfortunately they become low cost. How disappointing.

[@gerhardma4297]

Well, the pampered fools in Business Class have to plant their fat arses in the normal but comfortable seats for the short-haul flights. I feel so sorry for you poor sod.

[@chuckauleslowedreverb]

So let me get this straight. For the past 15 years in all of their short haul aircraft, Business Class has looked like this. Only now you think they become low cost, while absolutely nothing changes. What makes them to become a low cost carrier now in your eyes?

[@venetoxyt8332]

@@chuckauleslowedreverb They removed the recline seats.

[@chuckauleslowedreverb]

@@venetoxyt8332Seems like a good thing to me. Now no one is going to be able to recline their seat during the 30 minute cruise. More space for people behind.

[@chipdale490]

Wait, what? No recline at all? Can anyone confirm this? Personally I find that hard to believe, but perhaps I am wrong.

[@Minecraft-ue7ux]

What the hell has happened to the standard of flying... truly sad.

[@sugboskyaviation]

Looks like a low-cost airline's aircraft

[@anoaklandsir]

Lol, looks like ALASKA AIRLINES. 🗑️

[@CCW-r4k]

Still no proper business class. Still super thin, hard seating. How disappointing.

[@gerhardma4297]

Well, the pampered fools in Business Class have to plant their fat arses in the normal but comfortable seats for the short-haul flights. I feel so sorry for you poor sod.

[@ld9124]

Its for within europe so that they can switch to economy when demand/ sold seats for business class is low

[@tonaldrump69]

Please business class master, educate us in the ways of the business seats. We all would of expected this A321neo to be wider, how come business class master is this particular one not wider? Why does KLM disappoint us business class master sir? Is it Airbus not being wide enough? I would have thought they had made KLM specific A321neos that where wider! Why business class master… why 😢 educate me daddy

[@van0tot100]

It is a narrow body aircraft. What do you expect?

[@ld9124]

@@tonaldrump69 🤣😭

[@FN-rr6mk]

I never thought of KLM having such low class seats

[@gerritsmit7779]

unfortunately KLM choose to have a party and let paying passengers (to NYC) wait for 90 minutes, due to this party! And they admitted it, but no compensation as it was less than 3 hours. ARROGANCE !! The truths is a bitch and Karma will be around the corner!

[@nustyR]

Landing time was with a 30 minutes delay, still wrong but not that bad.

[@gerritsmit7779]

@@nustyR true. But KLM is loosing costumers. I was Platinum for several years, and I stopped flying KLM. the arrogance is terrible. they really think that Dutch people will fly KLM and treat them worse than people from other nations. Just because they think they get away with it. One platinum less does make a difference, but I hope more people will leave them. they should have some Humble Pie!

[@TheAirplanejunkie]

Great Plane Dreadful seats looks uncomfortable and no tv behind seats what a shame

[@gerhardma4297]

looking uncomfortable? When I read something like that, I could puke. As long as you haven't sat your spoilt arse in it, you can't afford to judge and which airline has screens on short-haul flights? That's probably what the aircraft is used for.

[@theflyer1]

And to add to that no screens and they don't recline!! It's 🗑 🚮

[@send2wj]

No, they’re better than it looks. Just flew 4 hours from Amsterdam to Tenerife on the same aircraft type with the same type of seats. They are pretty ok for economy class. These KLM seats have even an extra “table” for your phone.

[@tomstravels520]

@@theflyer1who cares. People reclining into others without asking is what leads to arguments. And majority of people have tablets now to watch their own content using noise cancelling headphones.

[@tjittekamminga5170]

irritant dat de european business class 'gewoon' een economy stoel is - waardeloos

[@aboutplanes]

And it still got no screens.. it has almost no upgrade besides fuel efficiency from KLM’s B737s. I’m not even talking about the seats, they are boring, but pretty elegant

[@gerhardma4297]

Most airlines don't have screens when the aircraft are used on short-haul routes and if the A321 NEO is scheduled for this, it is logical.

[@theflyer1]

​@gerhardma4297 not in middle east or Asia, you get screens on all sectors. That's why most people choose to fly middle Eastern and Asian carriers over European carriers.

[@tomstravels520]

@@theflyer1yeah because we can fly those airlines between 2 European cities 🙄

[@HammieNL]

Its not the 330 my friend but a short hauler

[@gerhardma4297]

@@theflyer1 so tell me which asian or middle eastern airline provide short haul flights in Europe? I am waiting.

[@theflyer1]

OMG!! That interior was so underwhelming, especially after all that pomp!! 🤦🏾‍♂️👎🏾🤣🤣🤣

[@carlk3989]

Oh those shitty seats again! Those seats are like shit 💩 terrible after an hour of flight. Wht is KLM racing to the bottom?

[@williamdodds1394]

These planes are old designs the a220 300 is new design wouldnt waste money on 1990s tech simple as that.

[@KaptainKlunk1]

very poorly designed and thought out chair table and also over head baggage ,,over heasd baggage depth should be brough forward and like a clam shell opening it allows people of diffenrt heights to stow faster the lower table has no lip around it and also should have the cup holder on the bottom not the top incase of spillafge on a bumpy flight,,,,again poorly thought out designed and executed ......

[@markomarkovic9136]

bye bye boing

[@HeeGreener-h2h]

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